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Speaker 2: It's time for our weekly conversation with legendary sports writer

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Speaker 2: Larry Stone, brought to you by the Ram Restaurant and Brewery, Bigger,

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Speaker 2: Here's Larry Stone.

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Speaker 3: All right, here we.

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Speaker 4: Go, Safty, Dick Jackson, Dick out Humilling and for Dick

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Speaker 4: Faine today, who's in Hawaii. I won't tell you what

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Speaker 4: island he's on because people will just bug every hotel

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Speaker 4: looking for the Feine family.

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Speaker 5: He's on Kawhi, by the way, Kawhi, Larry Stone joins

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Speaker 5: us right now.

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Speaker 4: I love to be in Kawhi with Dick and not

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Speaker 4: talking about this frickin' baseball team. Holy hell, Larry, what

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Speaker 4: is going on? This is not the script that we

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Speaker 4: agreed to. You come with an eight outs of the

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Speaker 4: World Series. How you start the next year? Four and nine?

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Speaker 4: Worst start in fifteen years? Going back to twenty eleven

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Speaker 4: when they were letting home runs and RBIs by Miguela Levo.

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Speaker 4: What is going on at te mobile parking on the

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 6: Well, I had nightmares about that twenty eleven when I

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Speaker 6: was covering it, and I'm having nightmares about this.

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Speaker 5: Team as well.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, boys, It's just inexplicable, guys, because on paper, this

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Speaker 6: should not be this bad team. And the pitching has

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Speaker 6: been as advertised, if not better.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they got a.

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Speaker 6: Two sixty two team. Yar hey, you take that all

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Speaker 6: day long. You should be you should have a great record.

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Speaker 6: But the offense has just been miserable. I mean, they're

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Speaker 6: thirtieth in virtually every category. They've been the worst hitting

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Speaker 6: team in baseball. And it's their studs that they were

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Speaker 6: relying on who have been the biggest contributors to to

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Speaker 6: the problems. And I don't think anybody saw that coming.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Larry Dead last and batting average, slugging ops, hard

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Speaker 7: hit percentage that's ninety five miles an hour more with

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Speaker 7: percentage of their worst It's it's grim stats, right, But

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Speaker 7: give us the view from a few thousand feet above,

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Speaker 7: hovering above. Where when do you start to get concerned

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Speaker 7: about this? Is there a point where you say, okay,

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Speaker 7: if this continues until blank, that's when we can stop saying, well,

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Speaker 7: it's already no problem.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean there's a there's concern already you but

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Speaker 6: If not there, it's just like whoa You know, I

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Speaker 6: think may first is generally regarded, you know, give them

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Speaker 6: the ebbs and flows. Uh and but we're you know,

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Speaker 6: we're two weeks in now and uh and it's it's

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Speaker 6: not getting any better. So, you know, I think you guys,

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Speaker 6: I think those guys you just got to keep putting

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Speaker 6: And you've got to have confidence that they are going

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Speaker 6: them slumping simultaneously just wonder what's what's going on. You know,

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Speaker 6: you have the World Baseball Classic. I think maybe that

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Speaker 6: might have been a contributing factor early in the season,

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Speaker 6: but you know, I think by now you should be

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Speaker 6: over that. And uh you know, there's stats showing that

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Speaker 6: they're just not hitting the ball, that their bat speed

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Speaker 6: I don't know what would pause that other than maybe

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Speaker 6: to answer your question, you I, I don't panic yet,

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Speaker 6: but I'm already concerned because you just don't want to

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Speaker 5: No doubt.

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Speaker 4: Well, you got three guys in Naylor, Julio and Cal

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Speaker 4: too big of a hole. And now with the tiebreakers. Look,

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Speaker 4: I mean you're already down the tiebreaker to the Yankees.

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Speaker 6: No, I think you know you've got to get back

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Speaker 6: Let's say that suddenly you're you're five and twelve right

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Speaker 6: a good time to get them. I suppose that that

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Speaker 6: But you know, I agree with you that that that

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Speaker 6: at that point I anticipated that these were the two

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Speaker 6: going into the into the season, and you know, it

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Speaker 6: maybe it won't matter. But I think you have to

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Speaker 6: think about that with teams that are in contention, even

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Speaker 6: in April, because the games you only play some of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 7: Larry's stone with this, Larry, I want to go back,

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Speaker 7: specifically and put the spotlight on Cal Rawley for a second,

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Speaker 7: because I'm curious your hunts, all the years you've spent

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Speaker 7: I'm trying to get my hands around, my mind around

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Speaker 7: When he walks from the on deck circle up to

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Speaker 7: like like what of course none of us are in

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Speaker 3: He was, you know, second in the MVP.

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Speaker 7: Is this an issue like whoa a conference and a

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Speaker 7: got some technical things with my swing that aren't quite

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Speaker 7: on point yet, but I'll be fine. Like like, are

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Speaker 3: His mind is right now?

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Speaker 6: Well, that's a great question. You know, I've known him

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's a guy who hit the big home

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Speaker 6: He was tremendous in the postseason and in both the

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Speaker 6: He's not a guy that's going to press in big situations.

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Speaker 6: But I just happened to I have to wonder that

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Speaker 6: as this slump progresses, I think it's only human that

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Speaker 6: maybe it didn't start off to be a mental issue,

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Speaker 6: I think he's going to turn it around and and

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Speaker 6: and be fine. But you know, it's all the mental

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Speaker 6: part of it could well be a factor now. And

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Speaker 6: I think with all these guys, Julio too, they just

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Speaker 6: think there's signs of all of them pressing right now

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Speaker 6: With Julio. He gets on the he gets on these

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Speaker 6: all we talked about all spring was this was going

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Speaker 4: Well, Larry Stones with us courtesy the RAM four and

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Speaker 4: nine worst start in fifteen years, last year, five and eight,

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Speaker 4: and eight. Fourth year in a row, they've begun five

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Speaker 4: It's kind of turning into like something you can actually

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Speaker 4: baseball games. Why why is this now for the fourth

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the weather's been fine in southern California

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Speaker 6: and Texas, right They've lost five out of six there, so,

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Speaker 6: I mean maybe early in the season it's hard to hit,

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Speaker 6: and you're pitching is better than their pitching. That's what

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Speaker 6: don't know what it is with different managers, different personnel,

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Speaker 6: you know, and yet it's the same story. I don't

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Speaker 6: have a great answer for that. You know, last year

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Speaker 6: they turned it around. They did start off four and

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Speaker 6: slow start? And I mean, I you know, i'd say

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Speaker 6: the whole month of April is your start. So we'll see,

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Speaker 6: you know, if they can turn it around as well.

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Speaker 6: But maybe they need to reassess what they you know,

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Speaker 6: their preparation or how they handle spring training or something.

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Speaker 6: It is a it is a trend now for sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they ended the month of April last year, heugh

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Speaker 3: So well, yeah, we know.

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Speaker 6: I don't think that they're even considering that at this point,

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I wouldn't talk about this this early. I

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Speaker 6: Of the year. Yeah, I mean, it'll be on the

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Speaker 6: I mean you can always nitpick things. I mean, if

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Speaker 6: Dan's way of doing it is pat you on the

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Speaker 4: Hey, Larry, real quick, I know, I know he wants

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Speaker 6: Uh, let's see, Well, what kind of poignant memory that

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Speaker 6: And one reporter, just Burkes Luke got under his skin

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Speaker 6: And uh, you know, we were consoling him in the

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Speaker 5: This is in Peoria.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 7: Larry Stone with us, Larry, you know, the offense is

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Speaker 7: I mean, Donovan's been great at the plate, but how

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Speaker 7: You know, I don't know how much ground he's covering.

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I mean, you know, Donovan is just not

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Speaker 6: as we talked about last year ben Zobras type last week,

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Speaker 6: That's another element of this team that's been that's been

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Speaker 4: No, as long as they struggle, the drum beat to

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Speaker 5: I'm sure I did.

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Speaker 4: Are you still getting the baseball information emails from the

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Speaker 6: The way, Larry, I am okay for sure.

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Speaker 4: So you got the same one at nine oh four

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Speaker 5: I'm like, whoa here he is?

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Speaker 4: And it was Connor Joe coming up from Triple A Tacoma,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you heard it or not, Larry,

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Speaker 6: Well, he had a little bit of a setback where

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Speaker 6: He just came back yesterday or the day before yesterday,

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Speaker 6: But I mean, it looks like when he's playing, he's

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Speaker 6: And I think you want to give JP a little

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Speaker 5: May first?

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, you have a right to change your opinion,

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Speaker 4: So maybe by next week you'll say April twentieth, for

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Speaker 4: God's sake, Larry, great sorrow, exactly, great stuff, man, love

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Speaker 4: having you on, big thanks to the ram and we're

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Speaker 6: Week all right, all right, thanks guys.

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Speaker 5: All right, Larry Stone with us on the air.

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Speaker 4: Mariners lose again, and they did just to Larry's point

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Speaker 4: the finger of blame for now goes, and it goes

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Speaker 4: Cool Roley. They've lost game six to five, won to nothing,

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Speaker 4: five games, right there. They were zero to five, right,

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Speaker 5: We're gonna break a lot more on that.

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Speaker 4: Who's out until next Tuesday? We mention today Hue the

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Speaker 4: Mariners losing to the Rangers three to nothing. They have

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Speaker 4: Two runs are less than six of their last nine.

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Speaker 4: I think, though, guys, the most shocking statistic of all

437
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Speaker 4: is the fact that this is their worst start in

438
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Speaker 4: fifteen years.

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Speaker 5: Right, like you come with an eight out of the

440
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Speaker 5: world series.

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Speaker 4: This is not the movie that we all signed up

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Speaker 4: to watch in the first thirteen games of the year.

443
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Speaker 4: And Hugh, I'd like to go to the KJR producers

444
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Speaker 4: Boo ding ding ding ding ding ding ding, Jack, who

445
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Speaker 4: felt standing by with a little statistical historical analysis of

446
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Speaker 4: what this current team is being compared to from fifteen

447
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Speaker 4: years ago.

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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, you mentioned SAFI twenty eleven, and let's just

449
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Speaker 8: go back.

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Speaker 5: I'll even hit the harp. All look at you dressing

451
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Speaker 5: it all up and everything.

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Speaker 8: Let's go back to twenty eleven, and let's go back

453
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Speaker 8: to game thirteen of twenty eleven for your Seattle Mariners.

454
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Speaker 8: They lost at Kansas City five to one in that game,

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Speaker 8: a game that they had actually an impressive six hits

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Speaker 8: compared today six hits. Let's give you that starting lineup

457
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Speaker 8: of the Seattle Mariners in that loss to the Royals

458
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Speaker 8: to make themselves for.

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Speaker 4: You gotta do it, you gotta do it in Tom holler,

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Speaker 4: All right, Tom can Tom holler voice Rodriguez leading.

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Speaker 8: Off, of course, number fifty one. Echiro Suzuki. Not bad,

462
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Speaker 8: not bad. Batting second, our absolute favorite, second basement, third

463
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Speaker 8: baseman to ever be with the Seattle Mariners.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Sean Figgins batting third and left field. Milton Bradley, you're.

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Speaker 8: The dh Adam Adam Kennedy, Adam Adam Kennedy.

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Speaker 4: Adam Kennedy batting fifth is the first basement.

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Speaker 5: Justin smoke, there you go, batting sixth.

468
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Speaker 8: Was that RBI leader Safti Miguelo Levo the catcher, Yes,

469
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Speaker 8: about the seventh. Michael Saunders in center field, Colonel Uh,

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Speaker 8: your short stop batting eighth Brendan Ryan, and finally your

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Speaker 8: second baseman, Jack Wilson. Wow, that was the lineup that

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Speaker 8: put up six hits in one run to make the team.

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Speaker 5: Four and nine.

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Speaker 4: You know who wants to be responsible, Hugh for walking

475
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Speaker 4: into the Mariner clubhouse on Friday and you can grab

476
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Speaker 4: you can grab any one of the three. You can

477
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Speaker 4: grab Cali, you can grab Julio, you grab Naylor, and

478
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Speaker 4: then probably run after you piss your pants by the

479
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Speaker 4: way that grabbed me by the throat and said.

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Speaker 5: It's just a son to picture that you're being compared,

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Speaker 5: all right, peck it up, Sean Fingers. So I said.

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Speaker 4: Last segment that I'm more my my finger of blame, guys,

483
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Speaker 4: Hugh will start with you, is more towards the players

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Speaker 4: right now than the coaches. Do you agree or disagree

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Speaker 4: with that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? My sense of baseball, Yeah, I would.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I I mean these guys, you know, only

488
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Speaker 7: get on one forty three for Julio, one three for

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Speaker 7: col h and Naylor isn't even at that. No, I

490
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Speaker 7: would say those guys, I don't know if it's a

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Speaker 7: confidence thing. That's where I kind of try to go

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Speaker 7: with Larry is is something the pressing part of what

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Speaker 7: happened with Cal right and like trying.

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Speaker 3: To get it back. I just love to know where

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Speaker 3: his head is. But no, I would say, I'm on

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Speaker 3: the I'm with the players.

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Speaker 5: But why would it be a confidence thing? Though?

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Speaker 4: I guess I and I'm sure there's a reason for it,

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Speaker 4: because you got you got three guys that have spent

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Speaker 4: like a combined fifteen years in Major League baseball.

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Speaker 5: I mean they're veterans. They know how to deal with struggle.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: Baseball for the most part is it is a game

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Speaker 4: of struggle. I mean if you if you fail seventy

505
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Speaker 4: percent of the time, you're a hell of a player

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Speaker 4: and a hell of a hitter.

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Speaker 5: When you say confidence, what do you mean by that?

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Speaker 7: Well, look, it's not like cal Rawley sitting there saying,

509
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Speaker 7: well I can't hit you know baseball? Right, I'm saying

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Speaker 7: that you could have little lapses of confidence. I mean

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Speaker 7: it's something athletes don't talk about, right, Like you know

512
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Speaker 7: he would say if if a microphone was in his face,

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Speaker 7: you say, you know it, I'll come around. It's early.

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Speaker 7: What's the what's the problem? And I'm sure, he's right

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Speaker 7: on that, but is there a little part of them

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Speaker 7: when I say confidence, was would be like, hey, I'm

517
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Speaker 7: in this slump. Uh, this kind of sucks. And you

518
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Speaker 7: know he doesn't have that that you know, that red

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Speaker 7: shirt mentality that Tiger Woods has on a Sunday yea

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Speaker 7: in his prime, right, you know you know that it

521
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Speaker 7: just back. You know, he's just a little bit less

522
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Speaker 7: confident and and and you know, just dying to get

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Speaker 7: up there and rip that freaking picture. You know, you know,

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Speaker 7: you know, you just settle down in that you have

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Speaker 7: like ten percent less of that mentality.

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Speaker 3: And that's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 7: I'm not talking about some crisis or malaise of confidence

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Speaker 7: that that'd be absurd right to suggest that court, But

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Speaker 7: I think you could have a little dip and that

530
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Speaker 7: compared with maybe some mechanical things. And now all of

531
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Speaker 7: a sudden you're you're kind of not necessarily dreading to

532
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Speaker 7: get up to the plate, but you just don't have

533
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Speaker 7: that same juju as you talk to the plate.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think all that makes total sense. I mean, look,

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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to translate it to a mid mid

536
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Speaker 4: fifties white guys golf game. But all of us getting

537
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Speaker 4: our own heads right. All of us have way too

538
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Speaker 4: many thoughts. Like if you were to get into my

539
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Speaker 4: brain as I'm standing over a golf ball. By the way,

540
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 4: remember the old monkeys slapping cymbals together back in the

541
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Speaker 4: day when you're a kid, that's what you would see

542
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Speaker 4: in my brain.

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Speaker 5: All right, he's a bang bang bang bang bang. So

544
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Speaker 5: it's a mess. So I'm just thinking way too hard.

545
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Speaker 5: You got way too many thoughts in your head.

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Speaker 4: I think that might be part of what's going on here,

547
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Speaker 4: that people are trying to win the game with a

548
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Speaker 4: nine run homer, right, because that's part of the problem

549
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Speaker 4: with this baseball team. When it works, it's beautiful, and

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Speaker 4: it worked last year. And what I'm talking about, guys,

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Speaker 4: what I'm talking about, Jackson, is for a team that's

552
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Speaker 4: still today has to rely so much on the long

553
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Speaker 4: ball to produce offense. When it's not there, the whole

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Speaker 4: thing falls apart. And I did this exercise yesterday, Hugh

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Speaker 4: with Jackson.

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Speaker 5: Look.

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Speaker 4: I realized it's elementary. I realized there might be some

558
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Speaker 4: baseball knob who says that's not how it works.

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Speaker 5: If you take away all of Aaron Judge's.

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Speaker 4: Home runs and at bats that those home runs came

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Speaker 4: on Hugh and Jackson a year ago. Aaron Judge still

562
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Speaker 4: has an ops excuse me, on base percentage over four hundred.

563
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Speaker 5: Cal Raley.

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Speaker 4: If you took away all of his home runs and

565
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Speaker 4: abs from those home runs last year, his on base

566
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Speaker 4: percentage is barely over three hundred. So you don't have

567
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Speaker 4: a lot of well rounded guys. You have a lot

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Speaker 4: of guys that rely on the long ball, and when

569
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Speaker 4: the long ball dries up, they got no other tool

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Speaker 4: in the toolbox.

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Speaker 8: That's the true problem with this team. And like last year,

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Speaker 8: they got the long ball over and over and when

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Speaker 8: Julio heated up, he really really heated up. Yes, and listen,

574
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Speaker 8: like the job that we're in right now is obviously

575
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Speaker 8: to have lots of reactions. The reality of this team

576
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Speaker 8: is that. I mean, yes, they weren't four and nine

577
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Speaker 8: last year. They haven't been that since twenty eleven. But

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Speaker 8: there's there's no reason they can't, you know, continue to

579
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Speaker 8: get hot like they do in May, June, July, August.

580
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Speaker 8: The heat it warms up and they hit the long

581
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Speaker 8: ball and they'll be just fine. But that's not fun.

582
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Speaker 8: So for the sake of being fun, Right, we have

583
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Speaker 8: to freak out a little bit. But I hate to

584
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 8: go all Dick Fanian here, but the reality is, like,

585
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Speaker 8: I'm not concerned. Like I said, I said three weeks ago,

586
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Speaker 8: just close my eyes. And it's the same thing you

587
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Speaker 8: say almost every year. Softy, close my eyes, wake me

588
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 8: up at the start of June. Then I'll make a ruling. Right,

589
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Speaker 8: that's not fun, and we have to be consied.

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Speaker 4: But here's the thing, guys, So I look, I mean,

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Speaker 4: there's two conversations that we could have right now, Hugh.

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Speaker 4: One conversation is, let's just talk about what we've seen.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about the first thirteen games of the year, right,

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about four and nine. Let's talk about why

595
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 4: the team is struggling. Let's talk about why col Riley,

596
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 4: Julio and Naylor are struggling. Then the other conversation, right, Hugh,

597
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 4: is what does all this mean? What does it mean

598
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Speaker 4: as we the final one hundred and forty nine games

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Speaker 4: of the regular season.

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Speaker 5: I'm not even remotely ready yet to have that conversation.

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Speaker 4: Larry Stone kind of was right in the last segment

602
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Speaker 4: where he said, hey, there's things that are starting to

603
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Speaker 4: concern me maybe a little bit about this baseball team

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Speaker 4: long term. You get to the end of the month

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Speaker 4: and we can start looking at more trends and maybe

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Speaker 4: start to kind of get a feel for are these

607
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Speaker 4: guys really in trouble long term.

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Speaker 5: I'm not ready yet, Hugh, to.

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Speaker 4: Have that conversation, but I'm absolutely ready to talk about

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Speaker 4: why they're on pace at one hundred and thirty seven

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Speaker 4: home runs right now when they hit two hundred and

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Speaker 4: thirty eight last year, and talk about the first thirteen

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Speaker 4: games in a vacuum.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well this may console you a wee bit a

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Speaker 7: year ago after thirteen games, yes, now we've only had

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Speaker 7: two home runs right right, And then starting in game fourteen,

618
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Speaker 7: he then hit six home runs in six games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know you're going to go in and out.

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Speaker 3: But I would.

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Speaker 7: Say I can't speak for what's in his head, but

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Speaker 7: I would imagine a baseball player you kind of go

623
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Speaker 7: through these little crests of you know, your confidence a

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Speaker 7: little bit, you know, you know, I'm sure there's good

625
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Speaker 7: portions and that wasn't the only six game stretch or

626
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Speaker 7: eight game stretch where he was hitting a lot of bombs.

627
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Speaker 7: I'm sure in the height of all those those hot streaks.

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Speaker 7: He was just walking to the plate, just all he

629
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Speaker 7: was thinking about what kind of damage am I going

630
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Speaker 7: to inflict right now? You know, like there's a conference,

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Speaker 7: right and so I would imagine it's just a little

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Speaker 7: bit off in that regard.

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Speaker 4: Let's kind of break a little fun with audio coming next.

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Speaker 4: Mike McDonald joins at six point twenty on ninety three

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Speaker 4: to three kJ RFN.

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Speaker 5: It's now time for something in Dig's fun with audio.

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Speaker 5: Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy mister garoppolo.

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Speaker 3: Now let's have some fun with.

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Speaker 5: Audio, right all right? Yeah, I gets you. Here we

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Speaker 5: go fun audio.

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Speaker 4: It's been a crazy day, so it has been a

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Speaker 4: very very crazy day. We appreciate you hanging with us

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Speaker 4: here though. On the radio station. Who is you?

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Speaker 5: Everybody tuning in right now? Mike McDonald coming up.

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Speaker 4: You missed it six point twenty tonight, go hear it

646
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 4: again right here on your drive home on ninety three

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Speaker 4: to three kg IRFM. Hugh Milling in for Dick Fane,

648
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Speaker 4: who's out the week back on Tuesday. Have about fun

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Speaker 4: with audio right now? Hey, Hugh, did you happen to

650
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Speaker 4: hear that what's that, Dick? We start in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, Patriots head coach Mike Rabel Huey remember our

652
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Speaker 4: old friend Diana Boom boom Bersini. He used to be

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Speaker 4: with us on the Comcast show back in the day.

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Speaker 4: Were recently seen together at an adult's only resort in Sedona, Arizona.

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Speaker 5: Is this where the NFL meetings were happening, by the way,

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Speaker 5: like at this hotel? I don't think so. Are you

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Speaker 5: sure about that? They didn't have it in Sedona?

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Speaker 4: They may have been staying there. The coaches in the

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Speaker 4: media may have been staying there. At the hotel, they

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Speaker 4: were seen hugging, holding hands, laying by a pool, lounging

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Speaker 4: and a hot tub together. Let's go back to August

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Speaker 4: of twenty five at Pats training camp when we're seeing

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Speaker 4: the interviewed Vabel for the Athletic.

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Speaker 8: Is there something outside football that drives Mike Vrabel nuts.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 9: People when they leave their carts in the middle of

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Speaker 9: the parking lot and they don't take them back to

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Speaker 9: the cart return. And then the people at Starbucks that

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Speaker 9: park in a handicap spot and go in there and

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Speaker 9: try to get their order from the mobile, or who

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Speaker 9: are in handicap by no means handicap no. I look

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Speaker 9: in the dash, I look, and then I wait, and

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Speaker 9: then I then I just I approach them and I

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Speaker 9: say things like why did you park here? One person

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Speaker 9: would be like, I'm with door dash. I'm like, I

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Speaker 9: don't care. That's unacceptable.

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Speaker 8: There was a way you could actually punish them.

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Speaker 5: What would you do? I wish I had a boot.

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Speaker 9: That's a great idea. I would boot their car, just

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Speaker 9: like a mobile boot and said I parked in a

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Speaker 9: handicap spot and I'm not handicapped.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So uh, what's the insinuation that they were a

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Speaker 4: little bit too comfortable with each other?

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Speaker 5: Is that what your point is? Jackson?

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Speaker 8: I'm just asking the question of that. What you just said,

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Speaker 8: is was that back and forth more than just reporter coach?

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Speaker 8: Because I don't think it was.

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Speaker 5: But it's interesting.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, were you on there?

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Speaker 5: What's that?

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Speaker 3: There's some blurton going on there?

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Speaker 5: Is that? What you think?

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Speaker 8: That's what some people on the internet seem to think.

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Speaker 8: I don't think so, but I played it because of

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Speaker 8: the drama going on.

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Speaker 5: Well, here's the deal. I'll just say my two cents

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Speaker 5: on this.

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Speaker 4: So, first of all, the hotel that they were at

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Speaker 4: in Arizona, I don't know what the context was. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if that was a NFL hotel that had

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Speaker 4: media coaches at it.

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Speaker 5: I have no idea Number one.

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Speaker 4: Number two, it feels like some of the photos that

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Speaker 4: are coming out were taken out of context. You there's

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Speaker 4: now some pictures that are being put out that have

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Speaker 4: way more people in the pool around them than the

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Speaker 4: photos seem to suggest. But I've known Diana for a

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Speaker 4: long time. I spoke to Diana a few months ago,

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Speaker 4: and I feel terrible for her, But I also think

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Speaker 4: she has to use some better judgment here, right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: especially if you're in her position as a woman who's

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Speaker 4: already being judged by exillion people. You know, she had

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Speaker 4: the incident with Scott mccluan's wife when he was the

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Speaker 4: GM of the Commanders where she came after her on

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Speaker 4: social media. I would just say, if you're an NFL reporter,

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Speaker 4: is there really a reason for you to be in

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Speaker 4: a pool in a swimsuit with another NFL head coach

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Speaker 4: as an NFL report, Right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you.

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Speaker 7: Could certainly draw up lausible scenario where you know they're

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Speaker 7: their friends, their friendly, but they're not you know.

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Speaker 3: Romantically correct friendly correct.

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Speaker 7: And we go my wife and I go out with

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Speaker 7: with couples all the time, or a group of couples.

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Speaker 7: And you know, if you know, if you've known a

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Speaker 7: buddy's wife for thirty forty years, I'm sure if somebody

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Speaker 7: was was not that there'd be a reason to But

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Speaker 7: if somebody was sitting there saying I'm gonna snap the

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Speaker 7: photo right at the right time to make it look incriminating,

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Speaker 7: you could do it. Yeah, I mean, you know, you

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Speaker 7: give a galley known for thirty forty years a hug

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Speaker 7: or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, I mean that.

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Speaker 7: And and then well, right on the you know, two

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Speaker 7: feet from the side of that lens, your wife was

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Speaker 7: right there. Now, I'm not saying that either of their

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Speaker 7: spouses were there. I just can't believe Rabel would be

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Speaker 7: that stupid in that environment to be touchy. But they

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Speaker 7: both leave themselves open to the charge, you know, and

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Speaker 7: they're both married, so they they certainly should learn a

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Speaker 7: lesson at all.

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Speaker 4: Well, and especially Diana, who, let's face it, anybody who

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Speaker 4: knows Diana, anybody who follows Diana on social media. I

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Speaker 4: mean she every now and then where's fairly revealing outfits

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Speaker 4: on social media and IT award shows, and she's very

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Speaker 4: friendly with a lot of people, And whether warranted or not,

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Speaker 4: she's starting to develop a bit of a reputation, whether

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Speaker 4: fair or unfair, And I think that she has to

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Speaker 4: just ask herself, do I want to fight back at

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Speaker 4: that reputation or do I want to give people the

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Speaker 4: reason to believe that that reputation is earned? And when

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Speaker 4: you do stuff like this, you're just adding fuel to

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Speaker 4: people's fires.

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Speaker 7: So let's think she's been willing to get close to

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Speaker 7: her stradle the line of professionalism, where like, hey, I'm

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Speaker 7: going to be chummy with this, you know, right up

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Speaker 7: to the edge of inappropriate professionally.

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Speaker 4: Let's do one more before the break a K Hugh

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Speaker 4: as you happen to hear that, what's that dick? After

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Speaker 4: South Carolina's women's basketball team lost a national championship to

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Speaker 4: UCLA on Sunday, game, Cox head coach Don Staley end

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Speaker 4: at her postgame press conference by shouting out, a good

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Speaker 4: friend of.

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Speaker 7: Ours, you'll find the lessons within this game and try

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Speaker 7: to try to get better coaches always want to thank

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Speaker 7: you for your time this evening and congratulations getting on

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Speaker 7: Trumendo season.

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Speaker 5: Is it Jerry Brewer in it? Jerry Brewer great writer?

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Speaker 2: Tell them that.

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Speaker 4: It sounded like Don Staley didn't know who Jerry was

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Speaker 4: until she read an article of his. Is there a

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Speaker 4: is there a Hugh Miller here?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: He pronounced it.

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Speaker 4: I mean the way that she said Jerry's name makes

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Speaker 4: it sound like she just read an article that he

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Speaker 4: had written, maybe ripping Geno ari Ema for the little

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Speaker 4: spat that they had with Don Staley from Friday, I

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Speaker 4: believe supporting Don Staley. In Don Staley, he wanted to

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Speaker 4: go out of her way to tell Jerry how much

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Speaker 4: she appreciated his support.

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Speaker 3: So she did, And I think Jerry is wonderful.

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Speaker 7: I didn't like his column about the Olympic hockey team,

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Speaker 7: right right. I'm sure there's a lot of things that

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Speaker 7: I had a lot of segments and shows that back

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Speaker 7: when he was here that he didn't like him mine.

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Speaker 3: But Jerry's a good dude and that's cool that he

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Speaker 3: got to show up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, the Don Staley Gino r I am a thing.

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Speaker 4: I know we have to break here, but I don't know, man.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was just another story that frankly, I

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Speaker 4: believe is great for women's basketball. It's got people talking

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Speaker 4: women's basketball. You know, some of the great stories that

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Speaker 4: involved the NBA back in the day are about spats

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Speaker 4: about competition that rolls off the court between coaches and

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Speaker 4: coaches and players and coaches and players and players. And

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Speaker 4: I know a lot of people don't like this stuff,

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Speaker 4: but I think when that thing went down between Geno

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Speaker 4: and Dawn, I think it had a lot of people

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Speaker 4: talking about women's basketball that don't normally talk women's basketball.

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Speaker 5: So we'll see, we're gonna break