1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,159 Speaker 1: Rick Lewis, Ryan Evers walking up to Broncos Country tonight 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: at six o'clock and the meantime though five six six 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: nine zero. If you want to jump in and somebody says, here, 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: I like the dueling audio segments you have been doing, Lelea. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: You need to find a new name for them, something catching, 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: not dueling. Banjo's reference and we have to think about that. 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: I never really I guess we just do it as 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: a as you one side. It's I don't know, it's 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: dueling audio. I don't know else to call him, but 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: maybe I have to put more thought into that. Mark 11 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: by words, guys, Trevion Henderson will not last in this 12 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: league unless it's on the IR list. 13 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: I don't know about that. We'll see he does get 14 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: banged up a little bit. 15 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: Uh, he's gonna he's gonna be showcased tomorrow night. Reminder, 16 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: Stevenson's out for the Patriots, so he'll get an opportunity 17 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: to run against that Jets defense. 18 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: We'll see what that looks like. 19 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 3: People mentioned this week that they're gonna beat him. Yep, 20 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: you got a lot of talent. 21 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: He's got a lot of talent. 22 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: See that's where we come down to and I got 23 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: a really fun bonus staff for you. Second, you're you're 24 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: not the same without JK. Dobbins, Like I'm not gonna 25 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: sit here and try to paint a picture that is 26 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: gonna be just fine or you're gonna. 27 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: Be okay without JK. Dobbins. But I've been wanting to 28 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: see what other gear RJ. Harvey has had for a while. 29 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: They haven't really focused him much on the run game, 30 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: right you see a few runs out to bounce outside. 31 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: You remember earlier in the season and I think it 32 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: was the Titans game he had that really long run. 33 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: But we really haven't seen much. But you realize that 34 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: he's actually averaging over four yards per carry right now, 35 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: four point three yards per carry. Now he's read the 36 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: ball one hundred and three fewer times the JK. 37 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: Dobbins. 38 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: He's only run fifty times versus Jk's one fifty three. 39 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: But you know, I'll argue the other side of that, 40 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: his legs are fresh, he's ready to go, and so 41 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, twelve carries for RJ. 42 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: Harvey, maybe six or seven for. 43 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: I guess Tyler Baday, who's only run at two times 44 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: so far, he's been used mostly in the passing game. 45 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: I think you can get by. 46 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: I think you can buy for for however long you 47 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: have to, hopefully it's only for a game or two. 48 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, the problem with RJ. Harvey in there is pass 49 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 3: protection and if you're gonna line them up in the 50 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: backfield and they move them all over the field. But 51 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: if you're gonna line them up in the backfield to 52 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 3: run the ball with him, that could really actually work 53 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: out good for them because typically when he's been in there, 54 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: I think defenses assume that they're going to throw the ball. 55 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: Dobbins is much better in pass pro than RJ. Harvey. 56 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: So if he can break off some runs and be 57 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: consistent running the ball, especially on first down, pick up 58 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: four yards, five yards and first down, then that will 59 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: really open up some wheel routes to him and some 60 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: passes to him out of the backfield and everybody else 61 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: as well. You know, when you've got running backs who 62 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: are not good in pass pro and then you have 63 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: to take them out of the game, that gives the 64 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: defense a pretty good advantage to at least take a 65 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 3: pretty educated guess what you're going to do on that play. 66 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to watching him too, because we know 67 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: this kid's got a lot of talent and he's made plays. 68 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be interesting. I do think 69 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: like you. I think Beday will get the second most 70 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: carries on the team this week. 71 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: And McLaughlin is I mean, it looked pretty rough in 72 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: the Jets game. I don't know, they all look pretty 73 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: rough in the Jets game, So I don't know if 74 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: I want to hold that against him. I did like 75 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: Dave's point earlier when he was on with us in 76 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: the first hour about designing a couple of opportunities for 77 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: him to utilize his speed. And he's got fresh legs. 78 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he's got fresh leggs. So and he's 79 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: had some explosive moments. 80 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: For this team. 81 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: If there's a way to do it again, you come 82 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: back to the way the Chiefs lost in the Buffalo Bills. 83 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: They just ran it at him over one hundred and 84 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: forty rushing yards. Again, James Coke is awesome. He had 85 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: twenty seven garys in the game. But that's how you 86 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs. You just keep running it at him. 87 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: And if you want to get Bo Nicks and the 88 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: offense out of their funk, is is you just commit 89 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: to it. And Dave brought up a great points like 90 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: a lot of that feels they have their eighth in attempts, 91 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: their top ten and rushing their top ten team and 92 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: rushing eighth in attempts. But it does feel like it 93 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: leans heavy into the second half of games. 94 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah. 95 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 3: It seems like we come out every week and we go, hey, 96 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: run the ball, get off to a good start. Stick 97 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: with the run. They don't. They come out throwing the 98 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 3: football typically in the first half. And going into this 99 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 3: game before the Dobbins injury, I thought, this is how 100 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: you win this football game. Run the ball JK. Dobbins 101 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 3: right out of the gate, run him, feed him. Now 102 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: I'm not so sure now because I don't know what 103 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 3: we're going to get from R. J. Harvey. That's going 104 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 3: to be the surprise on Sunday, and hopefully it's good. 105 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: Like I said, we know he's got incredible talent and 106 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: he's been great as a running back coming out of 107 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 3: college and at times he's made plays as a running back. 108 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 3: But that's how you beat the Chiefs. You keep Patrick 109 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: Mahomes and the offense on the bench, run the ball 110 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: all the time of possession, play clean football. There's eleven 111 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: penalties last game. Man, that's something that you got to 112 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 3: clean that up. 113 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: For sure. 114 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 3: You will win a game the rest of the year 115 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: with eleven penalties. That just never happens in the NFL, I. 116 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: Know, And it's it's about time you you curtail that. 117 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: And maybe that's a by week thing. 118 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, but you're not gonna be the Chiefs 119 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: if you're gonna if you're gonna have that kind of outputs, 120 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: it just can't. You're You're you're. 121 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: Giving yourself whatever narrow margin you have, you're you're making 122 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: it harder on yourself. And they're mostly on the offense. 123 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: They're mostly on the offense. 124 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: A lot of them. 125 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, as well. 126 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 3: He has a razor thin margin on offense and eleven penalties. 127 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 3: It's pretty amazing that they won that football game. 128 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: We'll get to some and some more audio here on 129 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: the second and I do want to play the the 130 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: bonix how he deals with criticism. But this was from 131 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: James Palmer, who we love, uh formerly with the NFL network. 132 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: He he kind of bounces around now he's I think 133 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: he's doing stuff the athletic which is really good. He 134 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: says the bo Nicks experience. He tweets this out this morning. 135 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter, Nicks is second in total yards 136 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: and no one has more game winning drives, fourth quarter comebacks, touchdowns, 137 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: first downs, completions over ten yards. 138 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: He's number one in all of those stats. 139 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: Touchdowns, fourth quarter comebacks, first downs, and completions over ten yards. 140 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: He's the best in the league in the fourth quarter. 141 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: So we know we can do it. It's on display. 142 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: Here's a fourth quarter though. Now here's the other side. 143 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: Okay, in the first three quarters, only just first three quarters, 144 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: only cam Ward has a lower completion percentage than Knicks 145 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: at fifty nine point five. Only Dylan Gabriel has averaged 146 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 1: fewer yards per attempt, and only Gino Smith Justin Herbert 147 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: have more interceptions than Nicks. So I think Justin Herbert 148 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: is obviously a good quarterback in there, but everybody else 149 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: that's that's pretty bad. 150 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: I mean, fifty nine point. 151 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: Five completion percentage, then you got six interceptions, Gino has ten, 152 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert has seven, and then here you're in the 153 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: category of Dylan Gabriel and yards per attempt for three 154 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: quarters of football. 155 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: Another way to look at it, cam Ward number one 156 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: overall pick in the draft. That true. How are they 157 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: looking at him right now? Well, he's not a bad 158 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: football team. 159 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,559 Speaker 2: He's on a bad football team. They just fired the coach. 160 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a mess in Tennessee. 161 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: I'm not jumping in conclusions on camp Ward, but you're right. 162 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: I mean he's first overall pick for a reason, right, 163 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: he was great And I'm in Miami, so yeah, I mean. 164 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: There is that. 165 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: But I but you're but you look at that on 166 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: its face value and you say, boy, one of these 167 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: is not like the other. 168 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: No, Yeah, there's some disconnect there. And that's what the 169 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: frustrating part is about this team. If they can get 170 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: this figured out, and we've been saying this now for 171 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: most of the season, if they can get this offense 172 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: on track, just just consistent score twenty five points a game, 173 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: consistently picking up first downs, cleaning up penalties with this defense, 174 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: they're gonna make a run in the postseason. If they 175 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: don't get the offense figured out, it's gonna be a 176 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: crap shoot. 177 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: That's exactly mean. 178 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that things can happen where they can win playing 179 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: like that, but it's gonna be a crap shoot in 180 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: the postseason. 181 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: Well, again we talked about the margins. 182 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: You just put yourself in that position where you're. 183 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: Leaning on your defense. 184 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: Again, the Broncos won a championship doing this right with 185 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. They won a championship quite literally, doing this 186 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: exact same thing where the offense was not clearly on 187 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: the same level as the defense. 188 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: The defense carried them. They had a decent run game 189 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 2: with CJ. 190 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: Anderson, and they made just enough plays on offense and 191 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: they closed. They always found a way to close, even 192 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: when all the odds seems stacked against them. 193 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: They found a way to close. Now, that is the 194 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: recipe as a very good recipe, and it's one that 195 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: you can win with. 196 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: It just feels like the hope and anticipation of doing 197 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: that again would probably be a folly exercise. 198 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 3: And teams have won Super Bowls with less talented quarterbacks 199 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 3: than bo Nicks because they had really good defenses. It's 200 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: happened over the years. You could probably name a few 201 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: off the top of your head. That being said, bon 202 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: Nicks is halfway through a second season. Look, I know 203 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: a lot of people have given up on bo Nicks already. 204 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: That's way too soon. We've seen what he can do 205 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 3: those fourth quarter comebacks. That's a trait that you want 206 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: in your quarterback that not many have. 207 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: He gave a great answer today. It's like three and 208 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: a half four minutes long. I pulled half of it here, 209 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: but I thought this was There's been a lot of 210 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: criticism on bow and he seems most of the time 211 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: unflappable except for how they're on the field. At least 212 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: on Thursday night, he looked pretty shaken up just by 213 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: the process of everything. 214 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: He wasn't getting hit a lot. 215 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: It just seemed like he was very much struggling with 216 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: the process of everything. But the off field stuff, you 217 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: wonder kind of how is he dealing with the criticism 218 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: that's being levy to him. 219 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: And here's what he said. 220 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 4: You know, for whatever reason, in life and in football, 221 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 4: you know, people think that we have this opportunity to 222 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 4: you to doubt or question or hype up or tear 223 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 4: down you know, these guys. And it's really in sport 224 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: in general. You know, we make this entertainment business a 225 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 4: lot bigger than what it is, and we forget that. 226 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 4: You know, everybody's just out here having a good time, 227 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 4: having fun, doing the best they can. 228 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: But for me, it's it's quite simple. 229 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 4: Really, I I I delete all my social media. I 230 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 4: don't even have it, so unless somebody says it to 231 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 4: my face, I don't really hear it. And uh, nobody's 232 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 4: never bold enough to say it to your face. So really, 233 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 4: I I don't. I don't get on social media. 234 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: There was a time to. 235 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 4: Where it was early on in my career at Auburn, 236 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: we were undefeated. We went to Florida and we lost, 237 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 4: and that's that's when I really actually got to know 238 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 4: the the bad side of this sport. And it's unfortunate 239 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 4: for sure, but that's a same time, it's what comes 240 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 4: with the territory, and you know, it's uh, it's also 241 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 4: a gift because it allows other people to see how 242 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 4: you respond to adversity. And there's a lot of younger 243 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 4: kids out there. There's a lot of people who want 244 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 4: to be in our shoes. They want to grow up 245 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 4: and be, you know, just like us, and you know, 246 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 4: hopefully they're better, but you know, it's good for them 247 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 4: to see that not everything's pretty, not everything's happy, go 248 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 4: lucky you. Definitely, it doesn't. 249 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: It definitely doesn't go might you playing. 250 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 4: If it was like I planned we you know, I 251 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 4: would have won every national championship in college, we would 252 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 4: have won the Super Bowl last year, and we'd be 253 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 4: undefeated right now. But unfortunately the other team is trying 254 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 4: to do the same thing. So you know, life's not 255 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 4: about being fair. You're going to go through ups and downs. 256 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 4: You're gonna be faced with adversity, and honestly, a lot 257 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 4: of people aren't gonna like you. 258 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 259 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: Like I said, it was a mean, really thoughtful answer, 260 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: and you talked for almost four minutes, but I wanted 261 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: to bring a little bit of it, and I first 262 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: of all, good on you, and I think for for 263 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: any young athletes, you know, whether you're looking up the 264 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: bow Nix or you look up to any of these guys, 265 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: when you do get to that level, I would suggest 266 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: you delete social media. 267 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 2: I really would like if i'd advise every pro athlete. Now. 268 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: I know some of them have podcasts and they have 269 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: things that and I'm not saying that you can't, but 270 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: there is an acknowledgment of it's a window for people 271 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: to interact with the good and the bad. 272 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: And we see it in the fantasy football community all 273 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: the time. If you have a bad game from. 274 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: A fantasy football perspective, you get people tweeting death threats 275 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: at you. There's a kicker recently that did an interview 276 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: where he was talking about when he misses a kick. 277 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: Sure enough, he's got DMS, he's got messages and people 278 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: are telling him to end himself. 279 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: I mean it. 280 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: It can be very toxic, brutal. So he's good to 281 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: stay off of it. And he's right. People will not 282 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: say that stuff to your face. They tend to just 283 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: be keyboard warriors. We get quite a few of them 284 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: here on our text line oftentimes. So I like that 285 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: answer from him. 286 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 3: Records he was a really smart dude, and that's really 287 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 3: smart of him to stay off social media if he 288 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 3: really is, because we know how toxic it is, and 289 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: we're we're not celebrities, but we are certainly public figures. 290 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 3: I guess is a better way to put some what 291 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: we do in radio, and we know and social media 292 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 3: has made it way too easy to spew out hatred 293 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 3: and threats. Just at such a toxic environment. These players 294 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: back in the day, you know, they might hear fans 295 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: boo at the stadium, but they're not having fans on 296 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 3: a daily basis say they want to kill them. It's 297 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: a whole different game. Now. I would stay off social 298 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: media if I was a professional athlete. In fact, I 299 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 3: don't even want to be on social media now, but 300 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 3: it's kind of required with our job, right because it's 301 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 3: so toxic out there. So that was a really good 302 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: answer by Bo. Like I said, he talks like a politician. 303 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 3: He should probably run for senator when he's done with football. 304 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: He's that good at it. And that's the kind of 305 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 3: guy you want as your quarterback right there. That persona, 306 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 3: that's the perfect NFL quarterback persona in my opinion. 307 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: Now we got to put it all together, honestly, and 308 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: somebody text in, there's no real reason that Nicks is 309 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: going to get any better. 310 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: Based on what you know. 311 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that perspective is that the flashes 312 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: are just that and that you can't tie them together. 313 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: So I brought you that staff on what he did 314 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter versus the other three quarters. So 315 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: then your assessment is that he can't find a way 316 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: to recreate at least some of Maybe he can't consistently. 317 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: Be the best in the league. 318 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: According to James Palmer, at touchdowns, fourth quarter comebacks first downs, 319 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: completions over ten yards, winning drives, like, you can't do 320 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: that for all four quarters, But can you just take 321 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: a step forward on two quarters? 322 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: Right? 323 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: Can you put that together and be a percentage of 324 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: that for three quarters? Because that's really all we're talking 325 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: about here. 326 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: Rick again the end, because of how good this defense is. 327 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: If you can just take a step forward here, it 328 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: can be dramatic. It really could be the difference down 329 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: the stretch here. And that's why I don't think and 330 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: in most most teams don't subscribe to this anyways. You're 331 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: never as good as your best game, and you're never 332 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: as bad as your worst. Right, that was Bonix's worst undeniably, 333 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: nine to three and outs. He's missing guys left and right, 334 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: wasn't seeing open players. That was his worst game. I 335 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: don't think he's his worst game simultaneously when he's seen 336 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: him his best. I don't think he can recreate his 337 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: best every single week. But can we get somewhere in 338 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: the middle, And I think that's going to be more 339 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: than serviceable by. 340 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 3: Year three With an NFL quarterback is where you get 341 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: a pretty good gauge of what you have. We're halfway 342 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: through a second year. I just pulled up John Elway's stats. 343 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: Here's a year three for John Elway. Of course, it 344 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: was a different game back then. Twenty two touchdowns twenty 345 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 3: three in that year. Most people would go, all right, 346 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: he's a bust. Number one overall pick. He's a bust. 347 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: We got to get a new quarterback next year. We 348 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: all know how John Elway turned out. Yeah, now that 349 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: was back in nineteen eighty five. That was his third 350 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: football season, when John Elway should have been starting to 351 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: figure things out, and he still struggled. So John Elway 352 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 3: his best years weren't until the nineteen ninety three, in 353 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety five, ninety six, ninety seven, late late in 354 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: his career. But if fans would have been that impatient 355 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: with John Elway back then, and they were, I remember, 356 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 3: if the ownership was impatient as well, John Elway would 357 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: would have been cut after year three. 358 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: No, in fairness and then not just the different eras 359 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: you acknowledged that there was also a different there was 360 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: a different investment in quarterbacks then, Like now we live 361 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: in an era where Josh Rosen gets drafted tenth overall 362 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: and he's not your quarterback next year. 363 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: That's a great point. 364 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: So, yeah, so the investment, and that's not just the quarterbacks, 365 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: that's the coaches as well. 366 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: You'll have one and done's all the time. 367 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: Now, really valid point. 368 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: Not a thing you did back in the eighties, nineties, 369 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: et cetera. 370 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, they first round draft picks, especially number one overall 371 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 3: back in the National Football League, got paid a ton. 372 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 3: They got generational money right out of college, and so 373 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: that's why they were willing to hang in there. That's 374 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 3: a really excellent point. Now it's no big deal. Yeah, 375 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 3: just go get another one next year, that's right. 376 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: You just say you got Kyler Murray, who, by the way, 377 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: will not be with Arizona probably. 378 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 3: Next year, that's what they're saying. 379 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: They did give him an extension. He's obviously been there 380 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: for several years. But yeah, that we live now in 381 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: an era where you don't even see these rookie first 382 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: round quarterbacks finishing their contracts. Was it the draft with 383 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: Justin Fields? Right, Justin Fields, Mac Jones, Trey Lance, Zach Wilson, 384 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: all of them, they didn't even finish their rookie contracts 385 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: and they were on to new teams. And that's that's 386 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,479 Speaker 1: the league now. So it's had to say that bon 387 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: Nicks will not be the guy beyond this year. I mean, 388 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: by all means, by all indications, this thing is heading 389 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: into a great direction. You're eight and two right now, 390 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: You're at the top of the NFL. So it's just remarkable. 391 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes we get into these conversations about where the team 392 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: is at, and you would an'ost think based on the 393 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: discussions we're getting into, that is the opposite of that. 394 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: But here we are. 395 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 3: You know what fuel the fire was Colin Coward when 396 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 3: he came out and said that he thinks there's a 397 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 3: good chance next year Broncos will look for another quarterback 398 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: because of his connection with Sean Payton. That's when people 399 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 3: really started piling on bon Nicks with the Colin Coward statement. 400 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 3: And just a few weeks ago Colin Coward was talking 401 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: about bon Nicks in a glowing way. 402 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, what did you I'll tell you what we come back. 403 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: I want to ask you what you make of that, 404 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: because people are signing a lot of intention behind what 405 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: Colin Coward is suddenly flipping yep on his narrative there, 406 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: and especially with who his friends tend to be. 407 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: We'll get to that coming up next year on Kwa. 408 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: Was there, Kwa common spirit, health text line war, Peyton 409 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: manning stats his first couple years, well, I mean he 410 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: led the league in interceptions in his rookie year. Famously, 411 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: he's still if he asked him, he's still waiting for 412 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: somebody to break that record for him. 413 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 2: He does, he's hoping will break the record. 414 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: Won't be this year, not with the well at least 415 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: not with bot X. I mean last year obviously, but yeah, 416 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: I won't be this year. Probably with Jackson dart or 417 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: cam Ward. I don't think they're gonna get close to 418 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: breaking that record. Uh some, he says. Rix point still stands, Ryan, 419 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: I never said Rick didn't have a point. I was 420 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: just sort of talking about the changing different eras and 421 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: different eras of football, but then different eras of the 422 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: cap and the way that teams manage their quarterbacks, their coaches, 423 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: and there's just less patience all around. And I'd say 424 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: that's in a lot of walks of life, but especially 425 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: in the NFL. There's more pressure to win now, there 426 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: is less patience if it doesn't seem like it's working, 427 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: and the tough thing about that, and I think we're 428 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: seeing the sort of the repercussions of it. And why 429 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks who were first round picks are having success 430 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: much later on in life with other teams is because 431 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: they're finally getting some coaching and they've had a lot 432 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: of experience now. And so you see Daniel Jones and 433 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: Mac Jones and Gino Smith up in Seattle. I mean, 434 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: obviously this year has been a down year for him, 435 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: but he had revitalized his career. Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, etc. 436 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: All these quarterbacks are finding second and third waves of 437 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,239 Speaker 1: their career because they're finally getting the coaching that they 438 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: needed and they're finally getting the time to play. 439 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 3: I'm looking at Peyton manning stats as rookie year was 440 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: n good. I think everybody knows that he had twenty 441 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: six touchdowns, twenty eight picks. Second year twenty six touchdowns, 442 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 3: fifteen picks, so much better, and the team went thirteen 443 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: to three that year. Now, Peyton Manny had a lot 444 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 3: of talent around him on that team as a young quarterback. 445 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 3: Peyton mann Andy's third year thirty three touchdowns, fifteen picks 446 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 3: and they went ten and six. Peyton Mandy figured it 447 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: out pretty fast, he did, and he did. You know 448 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: when you look at the roster around him, much better 449 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 3: than what we're seeing with bo Nicks on offense. 450 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 2: We had two Hall of famers. 451 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: Well, Reggie, I don't think it's a Hall of Famer yet, right, 452 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: Reggie Wyne's is not a Hall of Famer. I don't 453 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: think hall of Fame caliber al fin caliber yeh yeah. 454 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: And then Dallas Clark was a hell of a tight end. 455 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean just Saturdays. I mean they had some good, 456 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: good teams. Obviously edge as a Hall of famer. This 457 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: sext Ryan and Rick. I've always respected Colin Cowherd. In 458 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: a world where analysts like Bart Scott and Ryan Clark 459 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: consistently say nasty, unprofessional things, Colin has always been respectful 460 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: and articulate. 461 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 2: But this takes no matter if you agree or not. 462 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: Okay, if you my complain with him, as he will 463 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: switch on you over nights. Ten days ago, he was 464 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: out on Caleb Williams and all in on bow Knicks 465 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: after last Thursday's game where both struggle in on Caleb 466 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: Williams and then out on bon Nicks, and then he says, 467 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: I like calling a lot, but he's like all other analysts. 468 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: They overreact to one game they actually watched because it 469 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: was a national game and only thing on TV. 470 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: But we'll be fine, go Broncos. 471 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: Well, so the point you were making is did he 472 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: have a little bit of help ultimately and why would 473 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: he flip his entire opinion on bo Nicks. And he's 474 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: been very pro Bo Nicks, very pro Sean Payton and 475 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: bo Nicks together, and then suddenly, right after that game, 476 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: just the snap of a finger, he's saying, Bonis is 477 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: holding this offense back. He's the reason. And by the way, 478 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: he wasn't the only guy that sort of started pointing 479 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,239 Speaker 1: that out suddenly. And it was a bad game, we 480 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: all saw it, but it just as interesting. 481 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: It is interesting. Is it just a coincidence? I'm not sure. Uh, 482 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 3: there's that connection with Sean Payton, and that's why I 483 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: got everybody's attention. Plus Colin Coward. It's a big time 484 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 3: superstar talk show host. And that's one of the reasons 485 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 3: he's a big time superstar talk show hosts is these 486 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 3: takes that he has and he's not afraid to say 487 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: he's wrong either. A lot of talk show hosts don't 488 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 3: do that. He does that when Colin was right, When 489 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 3: Colin was wrong segment, which I think is brilliant. But 490 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: he's a guy that gets attention when he says something. 491 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: That doesn't mean he's right, but people certainly hear about 492 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: it or hear it and you have to step back and. 493 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: Go, huh, wonder, what's going on here? 494 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 3: What happened? I was one of those people when I 495 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 3: saw that take from him. 496 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 2: He did an interesting segment today. I thought, I like, 497 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: follow the show, but I saw it on social media. 498 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: He did a segment today talking about quarterbacks and ones 499 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: that he would invest in the next contract because he 500 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: was and it's an interesting exercise. You don't have to 501 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: do it now, but he's talking about quarterbacks in their 502 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: twenty five so usually I mean obviously all in the rookie. 503 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: Deals, but some of them are one or two years 504 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 2: into the rookie deals. 505 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: They're not they're like a year or two away from 506 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: getting the contract extension day you make those judgment calls. 507 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: And he said Cale Williams was a guy that he 508 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: would do that with. 509 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 2: I can't remember the other two he had three, but 510 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,239 Speaker 2: Bonics he just didn't even talk about. He had him 511 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: on the list and he skipped over his name. It 512 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: was the weirdest thing. 513 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: That's why it jumped out to me because he went 514 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,719 Speaker 1: down the list and he talked about how Jaden Daniels 515 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 1: isn't a guy he would give a contract extension too, 516 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: because he's hurt too much. And you know, he went 517 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: through kind of the other quarterbacks that are all under 518 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: twenty five, but when it came to Bonis's name, he 519 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: just intentionally or not just skipped over his name in 520 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: this entire exercise. 521 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: Huh. Kind of makes you go, it's just weird. Yeah, 522 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: that's all very strange. 523 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: But the national narrative does tend to ebb and flow 524 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: as things move on, right, I mean, it's not surprising 525 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: that after Bonix's worst game that suddenly there's a lot 526 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: of people out there that will say, you know, I've 527 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: been seeing this for a while, and especially after really 528 00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: two games in a row. 529 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: Was kind of rough in the Texans game too. Now, 530 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: you can explain it away because the. 531 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: Texts are so good, but it's tough to explain away 532 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: because the Raiders have been down so bad and a 533 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: lot of teams had moved the ball against that defense. 534 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 3: It's been an ugly stretch, let's face it, but they've 535 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 3: been winning seven games in a row they've won, and 536 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 3: half of those are probably ugly wins. And as we 537 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: said earlier, good teams win ugly and there's been teams 538 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 3: with this type of defense where the offense has struggled 539 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 3: this one Super Bowl. 540 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: Let me ask this happens your ear glass half full? 541 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 3: Guy? Like me? 542 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: Temperature of it right now? How do you feel about 543 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: this game coming up on Sunday? 544 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 3: Not as good as normal? Some of it's because of 545 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 3: the injuries. If Ja Dobbins was healthy, I would feel 546 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 3: a whole lot better. So the unknown of RJ. Harvey 547 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 3: and what will get from RJ. Harvey is what's making 548 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,959 Speaker 3: me not so optimistic about the game and the Chiefs 549 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: coming off of bye week two we know read off 550 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 3: a bye week because the best in NFL history, I 551 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 3: think he's what twenty two and three or four two? Yeah, 552 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: it's ridiculous. So I'm not as optimistic. Can the Broncos win, Yeah, 553 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 3: I think they can win the game. And also factory 554 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 3: Broncos at home have been really really good. That being said, 555 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 3: there's three and a half point dogs at home. So 556 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 3: people that uh that that set that line. I don't 557 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 3: know how you look at that are they begging you 558 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: to take the Broncos in the game. That's how Dave 559 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 3: Logan typically looks at it. They're begging you to take 560 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 3: the Broncos in the points, and I would be comfortable 561 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 3: doing that, but winning the game. This is this one. 562 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 3: I'm still trying to figure that one out. It's Wednesday. 563 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 3: We got a little more time to figure this out. 564 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got a couple more days. Yeah. 565 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: I actually feel all right about it, believe or not. 566 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: And that's not just a glass half full perspective. I mean, 567 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm accused of that and I will admit to it, 568 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: but I just I feel that ability to close games 569 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: versus the Chiefs inability. 570 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: Bless you the Chiefs inability to close games. 571 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: This year, they're a one four in one score games, 572 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: Broncos being water six and two. 573 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 2: There's there's a. 574 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: There's a mindset there and and there's a carrot on 575 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: the other side of this. Hey fight a way to 576 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: win this game, you guys. You guys got the week off, 577 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: Like there's a carrot there for the Broncos. Now, I 578 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: do think you have to match the Chiefs desperation because 579 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: the Chiefs really need this game. 580 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 2: Like if we're being one hundred. The Chiefs need this game. 581 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: More than the Broncos do, and they're much healthier, and 582 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: they're much healthier, right, you saw the practice for it today. 583 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: They're they're gonna miss Isaiah Pacheco. He's not gonna play 584 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: in this game. But everybody else looks like they're they're 585 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: pretty good to go. They're coming off of buye. You 586 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: just had Andy Reeves great off the buye. The Broncos 587 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: coming off of many buy They are a little banged up, 588 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: but there's an opportunity here, specifically for some of these 589 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: young guys to step up and make a name for them. 590 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: We just watch Trevian Henderson do it for the Patriots. 591 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: What if r J. Harvey does that? What if RJ. 592 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: Harvey puts up one hundred plus rushing yards and breaks 593 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: a couple of long runs. Non possible to imagine, you know. 594 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying the Broncos can't win the game. 595 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 3: Broncos certainly can win the game. This defense is going 596 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 3: to keep them in just about every game. But as 597 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 3: you said, r J. Harvey's going to have to be 598 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 3: a guy, one of the guys that steps up on 599 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 3: this football team. 600 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 2: How's it going? What's up? Then he's playing my air quitar. 601 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: I saw that. How uh, what does my Kafka have 602 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: against you? Well, he's hoping. 603 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 5: Kapka is hoping to bring about the metamorphosis there in 604 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 5: New York? 605 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: Is that what's going on? It was a literary joke 606 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: for you kids. Yeah, I read a book. Yeah. 607 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,239 Speaker 1: Well the reason I say that is because you and 608 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: the Zach Seekers have this thing with Russell Wilson and 609 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, Susie Jams. 610 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: I was good to text him, but I could't give 611 00:28:59,280 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: him the satisfaction. 612 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: But as soon as Mike Coffee takes over, He's like, 613 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: that guy is not starting for me. 614 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 5: That's because he knew about the bet and he's trying 615 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 5: to help Seekers out because he knew if rus played 616 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 5: in that he would pass Justin Fields in total touchdowns 617 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 5: in one game. 618 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: I still got the two wins, so I'm fine. Justin 619 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: Fields is on a bit of a roll right now. 620 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 5: Yes, back to back forty plus yard passing is why 621 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 5: he's crushing it. 622 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: He has six completions. 623 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 3: Six completions, So what's going on in New York is 624 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 3: about you? Exactly. It's all about YouTube, right, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, 625 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 3: to try to follow. 626 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: Through the first ten weeks. 627 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 5: Justin Fields already has four games with less than seventy 628 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 5: passing yards and I am winning. 629 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 3: I'm beating him. 630 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: That's how that's how bad both of them are. This 631 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: is the all time worst back. Yeah, it's worse. It's 632 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: because it's so bad it's worth following. 633 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 5: It's hilarious how bad this thing is be because we're 634 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 5: sweating every week, like, don't get it. He's like, don't 635 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 5: get a concussion, don't let Russ come in. He throws two. 636 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: Touchdowns and it's over. And now is this we asked 637 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: the question earlier? Is this it for us? I will see. 638 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's one game with James started. 639 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: I mean you're trying something new. 640 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think the question is after the season, Yeah, 641 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 3: because he done. 642 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean, you know, I don't know. 643 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 5: It's you've gone to a couple of bad teams. I 644 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 5: mean there's still bad teams out there looking for quarterbacks. 645 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 5: There's always going to be the need for a bridge guy. 646 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 5: You know, Russ is a concupant pro. 647 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: When it comes to that kind of stuff, because he's 648 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: not threatening to be traded. 649 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: He doesn't want to be traded. Yeah, he's never you know, 650 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 2: he's not that guy. 651 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 5: He's not gonna leak your dirt out there unless you 652 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 5: keep tweaking him over and over and over again, and 653 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 5: then he finally will snap at you on Twitter