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Speaker 1: But you're not allowed to say they didn't play well.

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Speaker 3: You can't just win every game like I never said

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Speaker 1: He came back early, right because they were gonna they

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Ruth, you might not even miss this the

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Speaker 1: time here they were ranked twenty third. Trust me, they're

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Speaker 1: no longer ranked. In fact, I think they most recently

438
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Speaker 1: just within the last week they lost at home to Northwestern.

439
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: They've lost to Northwestern like seven or eight straight times,

440
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Speaker 1: which is not a good sign.

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Speaker 2: But you're not a basketball school. No right now or not,

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Speaker 2: That's what I said.

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Speaker 1: You might need Signetti to do double duty or at

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Speaker 1: least occasionally give a speech. Maybe that's the answer. Bottom

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Speaker 1: of the hour. Pause here, let's talk quarterback. I got,

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00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: believe it or not, a new, growing, nagging concern about

447
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: the Vikings quarterback search on the basis of some new reporting.

448
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: I want to get to that, see if anybody else

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00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: out there agrees with me. And then, as I mentioned,

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00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: we'll go a number of other directions before we wrap

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Speaker 1: things up at eleven.

452
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 2: There'll be some more hockey. There'll be more on the really.

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00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: Well done but very powerful, but incredibly tragic Chipskogin story

454
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: that's getting a lot of attention today, a story that

455
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: we actually had talked about in a more national sense

456
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: a couple of months, several months ago, via a piece

457
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Speaker 1: that had been done.

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Speaker 2: I want to say.

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Speaker 1: It was either ESPN or the Athletic I think it

460
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: was ESPN, but that'll be a part of the conversation

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00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: as well.

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00:27:49,760 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 2: Don't go.

463
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Speaker 3: Two.

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Speaker 1: An eight guy rights, I never miss a show, but

465
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Speaker 1: I am officially bored with Vikings quarterback talk.

466
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 2: Every host, every show, every day.

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00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: It's not stop barage of rehashing the quarterback situation. Am

468
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Speaker 1: I the only one? With all due respect to an

469
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Speaker 1: eight guy, Yes, I think you are. Because as much

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Speaker 1: as people complain about endless coverage of the subject, if

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00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: they're honest, they understand what a critical move, a critical

472
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: juncture this is in Vikings quarterback history, and what I

473
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: at least try to do I probably don't always succeed,

474
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: but what I try to do is take it in

475
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,479
Speaker 1: a different direction almost every time we talk about it

476
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: that's legal, which is what I'm going to attempt to

477
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: do again today. What did we talk about twice during

478
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Speaker 1: the week, Well, new Aaron Rodgers developments, New Aaron Rodgers developments.

479
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: One reporting via Adam Schefter, the other just an opinion

480
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: from dan Orlawskia, a quarterback whisperer that I respect a lot.

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00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: But let's let's try to come at it from a

482
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: different perspective today, and my inspiration is more reporting ESPN

483
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: does this super you know, roundup of.

484
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Speaker 2: What we learned at the combine.

485
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Speaker 1: You know who we ran into, talked to people, read

486
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: some things, the whole bit and like the subhead categories

487
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: are Geno Smith, Dolphins quarterback moves, Malik Willis, Cardinals quarterback moves,

488
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: Colts free agents, Kirk Cousins, Cowboys defense, Ravens Moves, AJ Brown,

489
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: Max Crosby. But their number one is Vikings quarterback moves.

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00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: As it's been all week at the combine, and so

491
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: we get the intel from two of their reporters. Is

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Speaker 1: it Dan Graziano? What's Graziano's first name?

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Speaker 2: Is it Dan? Espn?

494
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: I should not leave, though, he reiterates Vikings are not

495
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: ready to give up on JJ McCarthy, but they also

496
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: aren't ready to hand McCarthy the.

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00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: Keys for twenty twenty six. So he comes up with.

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Speaker 1: Two names according to his radar and according to his reporting,

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Speaker 1: Geno Smith.

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Speaker 2: Or Kyler Murray.

501
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: Because if and when someone such as Smith or Murray

502
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: gets cut, he writes, I could see Minnesota pursuing that

503
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: kind of passer on a low cost, one year prove

504
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: it deal. Then the other reporters Fowler, he reiterates it.

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00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: I've also heard that the Vikings are considering Murray and

506
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Speaker 1: Smith as they outline their veteran quarterback plan. I'm here

507
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Speaker 1: to tell you as a guy who has been one

508
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Speaker 1: hundred percent committed to the concept of adding a quarterback

509
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Speaker 1: to the room, not just to deepen the depth in

510
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Speaker 1: the quarterback room, but to give JJ McCarthy legitimate competition

511
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: or maybe even to go in as the starter in

512
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Speaker 1: training camp ahead of him. If those are the two

513
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: individuals this comes down to Gino Smith or Kyler Murray,

514
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to raise my hand and say give the

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Speaker 1: job to JJ McCarthy. Again, I'm serious. Neither of those

516
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: does anything. Neither of those They are both coming off. Now,

517
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: Murray's season was cut way short. But check the quarterback ratings,

518
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: the old fashioned ones. I think one of these qbs

519
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: was twenty fifth, the other was thirtieth. Now, I know

520
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,239
Speaker 1: Gino is with a bad team. I understand all that.

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00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: I get all.

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Speaker 2: That that neither of those does anything for me. To me.

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Speaker 1: If you do that, I think you're kind of saying

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00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: it's still JJ McCarthy's world, which is not illegal. You

525
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: can make the argument that that's what they should be

526
00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: doing anyway, But I I'm uninspired in both cases. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I might I never thought i'd say this. I might say, well,

528
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: I'd rather bring back Cousins again. I might say that

529
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Speaker 1: I just have no faith in Murray at all. I

530
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: know he's younger and he's had moments and all that,

531
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Speaker 1: but I just and I don't even think we run

532
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: the kind of offense that works for him anyway. Smid

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00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: I get it, he kind of seemed to resurrect his

534
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: career after you know, a start where it didn't look

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Speaker 1: so good.

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00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: I just I don't. It doesn't inspire me.

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00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: There are people who say, well, I'm I'm too fixated

538
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: on a rog Maybe I am. Rogers would interest me more.

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00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: Cousins might interest me more. Jones from the forty nine

540
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: ers would definitely interest me more. Even though you could say, well,

541
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Speaker 1: Jones didn't spire in his first stop and you're projecting him.

542
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: But I'm projecting him in part because of how inviting

543
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: he looked in good.

544
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 2: Infrastructure in San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: But in all honesty, if if, if these reports are true,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's who the Vikings are looking at, just

547
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: go ahead and bring in a viable backup quarterback that's

548
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: literally meant to be nothing but a backup who you

549
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: occasionally could throw in there in an emergency situation or

550
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: an injury situation, which unfortunately means he might play a

551
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: decent amount with JJ's history and just swallow hard and

552
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Speaker 1: say we're going to keep working around. We're going to

553
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: make this work with JJ McCarthy, and we're going to

554
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: get there sooner. Somebody had texted regarding let me see

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00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: if I can find it regarding Rogers. A lot of

556
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: good victation texts are coming in and I can't. I

557
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: can't find it now here it is. The opinion probably

558
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: doesn't play well with the shock jock community. This is

559
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: from Rube Paul. But JJ McCarthy wasn't ready last year

560
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: and he probably needs to sit for another year. How

561
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: many years today rodd sit behind far Vikings fans? Should

562
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: r E L A X? Can you play the Bud

563
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: Grant foot football isn't life or death? Quote that's from

564
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 1: Rube Paul. I'd have no problem with McCarthy sitting another

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Speaker 1: year if you get somebody where you're all in on example,

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Speaker 1: for example, an Aaron Rodgers. And it may well be

567
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: because the name's not coming up from any of the reporting.

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00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: It may well be that the Vikings are past it,

569
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: even though they've said, you know, all things are being considered,

570
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: but all things being considered or is this just sort

571
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Speaker 1: of are we getting commentary to just sort of take

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00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: some of the pressure off inside the organization? You know

573
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: what I mean that they know that, you know, the

574
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: mob is frustrated right now, and they at least need

575
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: some indication from the Vikings front office or the head.

576
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: Coach that.

577
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: They realize that, you know, it didn't go the way

578
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: it was supposed to last year, and they're really seriously

579
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: considering other ideas at the quarterback position. Maybe they don't

580
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: mean it, Maybe they mean, yeah, we'll consider everything, but

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Speaker 1: what's really realistic for us at the end of all

582
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: that consideration. Is it going to be more let's just

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Speaker 1: bring in another guy that is a decent backup, and

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00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: let's say that we're opening this up, but in the end,

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00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: let's just go back to doubling down on JJ macarthy.

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00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: There's people who believe that's what this organization should do.

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00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: I'm not one of them, but I will say, if

588
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: your only viable options are those two quarterbacks, I'd say

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00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: go with McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: So I just don't think they do all that much

591
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: for me.

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00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: Now, you could say, at the very least Gino would

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00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: prove as a veteran guy with starting experience to be

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Speaker 1: decent and to give you a viable option if McCarthy

595
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: can't stay healthy. You could make that argument, I guess,

596
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Speaker 1: But I wouldn't look at him as a guy as

597
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: a real threat. I want a threat. And again, how

598
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: many of them are out there? There's not a bunch.

599
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: I get that.

600
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Speaker 1: Malik Willis is the guy who probably I would covet

601
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: even more. But Willis is probably going to end up

602
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: at a place where he knows he's going to be

603
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Speaker 1: the starter.

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Speaker 2: Now, maybe the Vikings would be willing to do that.

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00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: How much money?

606
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: Well, in this story, the indication is or one of

607
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: the stories I read, that Malik might not end up

608
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: with as much money as was originally projected. He might

609
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: have to go with who's the quarterback who used to

610
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: be that the Bears drafted and then ended up with

611
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 1: the the Steelers and the Jets, the Ohio State quarterback?

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00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 1: Remember his name? It'll come to me, oh Fields, Sorry, Sorry,

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00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: that's okay. I put you on the spot, justin fields

614
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,479
Speaker 1: that it might be more like out of my head,

615
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: none of us can yeah, where he might have to

616
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: end up with like a two year, forty million dollar deal,

617
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, like twenty million that kind of thing. In

618
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: other words, originally he was projected this guy, it's gonna

619
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Speaker 1: be like you're it's gonna cost you probably thirty million

620
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: a year to get him.

621
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Speaker 2: Maybe not so much now.

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00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, But I don't know, you know, how

623
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: interested they would be willing to say to him, you're

624
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: our starter if you're because he hasn't been that yet.

625
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: I think he's promising, but he hasn't proven over a

626
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: whole season yet had to have the chance to that

627
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: he can be the guy.

628
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 2: But if it's really down to those couple of those.

629
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Speaker 1: Quarterbacks, sorry, I I would say go back then, go back,

630
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: that's the best you can do. Go back to Plan

631
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: A and get somebody who can be a decent backup,

632
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: because you're really not bringing anybody in to take the

633
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: job or to even compete for the job, as far

634
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, If those are the two choices, and

635
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: maybe I'm I know there's people out there who are

636
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: higher on Kyler because he's young enough, and the feeling is, well,

637
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: he's just got to get.

638
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: To a new place and a quarterback whisper and all that.

639
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: I just I don't know.

640
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: I've never had Certainly the last few years, I just

641
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: haven't seen much from him. I just the way he

642
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: plays and some of the stuff that's been said or

643
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: regarding preparation, et cetera. It just doesn't you know, it

644
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: doesn't do that much for me.

645
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: I don't know.

646
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: The other name that keeps coming up is Derek Carr.

647
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: I don't know where he fits in, and I don't

648
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: even know what to think of him because he's been

649
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: out of football for a year. He still looked like

650
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: he had something, but then you say, well if he

651
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: really had something now, I don't know. Do he sit

652
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,959
Speaker 1: because of injury. I don't really call why he sat

653
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: out or why he retired originally. But we should have

654
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Speaker 1: to see here's here's a text from Rose Bowl guy.

655
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Speaker 1: How nice is it? We don't have to worry about

656
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Speaker 1: QB and Dinky Town. KOC needs Drake Lindsay row the

657
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 1: boat there? Drake Lindsay his name at all? Yeah, Well,

658
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Speaker 1: I think he's going to have some uh, opportunity the

659
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 1: pro level. He's got to keep playing better, but continue

660
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Speaker 1: I think I would say to improve. The Vikings could

661
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: always take the Twins approach and say we were in

662
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: on Rogers or Jones when the plane all along was

663
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Speaker 1: to stick with McCarthy. Yeah, that might be true. Well,

664
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Speaker 1: a lot of it is how you view the end

665
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Speaker 1: of the season. I did notice this quote. Let's see

666
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Speaker 1: if I can find it. I thought I saved it. Uh,

667
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: this was actually from before the combine.

668
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Speaker 2: Where did it go? That's the quarterback.

669
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Speaker 1: I can't find it now, but it was something to

670
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Speaker 1: remember the the power of completions compels you. This is

671
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: from Koc the last time he spoke before the Combine.

672
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: Seaffert wrote. He noted he being Koc, noted being encouraged

673
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: by the type of football stared to play towards the

674
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Speaker 1: second half of the season, and argued, we started to see

675
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: a little bit of quote a mindset on completions. That's

676
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: the power of completions compels you, and that continues to

677
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: be the key to this. Did the Vikings look at

678
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: his finish as being enough to say, we're going to

679
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: say a lot of stuff publicly.

680
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: To take the heat off Hey, we're in on everybody.

681
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: Everything's possible, because it really there's no downside to saying that, right,

682
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, it's just more words salad. Well, we were

683
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: in on a lot of people, but we didn't get them,

684
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: or in the end we decided this is the better

685
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: way to go to kind of take the heat off

686
00:41:54,400 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: and make the anti McCarthy fan base go, oh okay.

687
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: They at least they're liberalizing their thinking and they're trying

688
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: to figure out some other ways out of the box.

689
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: So they take the pressure off, and little by little

690
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: the language starts changing. We say, you know, we've seen

691
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Speaker 1: some stuff in JJ this offseason. Some of the fundamental

692
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: stuff that was important to us is being worked on.

693
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: We see him getting to a much better place. And

694
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: by God, we know, we know, we saw what we saw.

695
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: We liked the way he finished. You know that that

696
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: kickoff return that that ruined it against the Bears, and

697
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: the rematch against the Bears, that's that would have been

698
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: another victory if.

699
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: Not for that play. So by God and JJ, we trust.

700
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any reason to believe that they're

701
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: trying to trade him now if they could get Joe

702
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: Burrow all bets would be off, right then, Yeah, and

703
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: for whatever reason Cincinnati would say we want McCarthy. Yeah,

704
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: that's a completely different issue. I don't think there's any

705
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: reason to believe that they're seriously looking at that. Unless

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Speaker 1: they add a really good starting quarterback who's got plenty

707
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: of time left, then there's really no point in keeping

708
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: I would say JJ McCarthy around. But what we still

709
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: don't know. We know what the reporters are reported, but

710
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: we still don't know where they might be if there's

711
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: any flirtation possible again this time around with Rogers. It's

712
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: also possible that behind the scenes, even if the Vikings

713
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: had interest, they have already been told that if Rogers

714
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: is going to come back for one more year, it's

715
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Speaker 1: going to be to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Right. He's got his guy, and he's got his guy.

717
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: Now. He's not as big a guy of his as

718
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: the previous guy a Tomlin, because he loved Tomlin. But

719
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: I think and he had ups and downs with your

720
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: guy what's his name, McCarthy. But I think there's enough

721
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: I guess you could say, experience together there that it

722
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: wouldn't be getting the way. I don't exactly know, all right,

723
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Speaker 1: top of the hour pause. I want to get in

724
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: our number two to a story we've talked about a

725
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: couple of times on this show that, to his large extent,

726
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: Chipskoggins has localized in a story that is getting a

727
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: lot of attention for all the right reasons. It's a

728
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: sad story, it's a tragic story. It's a cautionary tale,

729
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 1: but one definitely worthy of revisiting with the local angle

730
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: on it.

731
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 2: And we'll get to some hockey.

732
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Speaker 1: We'll get to some basketball Wolves Denver, nice national TV

733
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: game today, one of those games where maybe you get

734
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 1: a little bit of better measure on where the Wolves

735
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: are at this point. So plenty to get to in

736
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Speaker 1: our number two. Here of sermon are of a very

737
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: controversial edition of the Sunday Sermons broadcast Barrero and Blake

738
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: Moore until eleven. He reminds us no worst case scenario

739
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: this week. We've got wild hockey on the fan later

740
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: this afternoon, first time we've been back home since the

741
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Speaker 1: Olympic break and the gold medal winning run by the

742
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: US club Saint Louis Blues. The opponent you said this afternoon, correct,

743
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: And if you're a Wolves fan, you've got that option

744
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: via the Timberwolves channel, Wolves Denver a great national TV

745
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: match up, and I believe it was. I don't know

746
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: how many people saw it. There was a couple of

747
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: it got tense between Joker and a couple of Voklahoma

748
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: City Thunder players.

749
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: I think this was was it Friday night? I think

750
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: it was Friday night.

751
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: Joker gets tripped coming back up the court by uh

752
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: Lou Dort and it gets and and Joker does not

753
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: like it. Joker, it's funny. He looks like a guy

754
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: who he's got some you know, dope de dope to him,

755
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: you know where. It's so easy to underestimate how well

756
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: he can move. He got up off the ground, off

757
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: the court like a shot. I mean he was up

758
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: in no time, getting in Dort's face. Then other players

759
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: get involved. There's a lot of pushing and shoving going on.

760
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: It gets upgraded to a flagrant two. He gets tossed,

761
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: Dort gets tossed, and then I don't know if this

762
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: was before or after.

763
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: Sga gets bumped kind of hard but.

764
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: Not ridiculously hard coming around a screen by Joker, and

765
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: Sga throws the ball at him, does the old you know,

766
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna toss. It didn't hurt him, but you

767
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: havena thusk. So that was another technical file. So I

768
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: don't know if there's much of a backstory there, but

769
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: I did find that rather juicy and rather interesting. Wolves

770
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: and Denver on the Timberwolves channel.

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00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: This very.

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00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: Afternoon before getting into the schedule. Loss for Denver. I

773
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: don't think playing around in LA for two days as

774
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: ever helped the Wolves. Well, they have, that's true. They

775
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: have spent extra time in LA. Who knows how that

776
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: indeed will go. I guess it's possible. I don't know

777
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: how many months ago it was we chatted with We

778
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: talked about a terrific investigative piece that laid out a

779
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: new trend that, by the way, former US Attorney Andy

780
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: Lueger confirmed to us that he had dealt with it,

781
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: seen an explosion in it in out of his office

782
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: before he left the US Attorney's office, and it had

783
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: to do what's what's I guess you could say sort

784
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: of widely referred to generally referred to as a sextortion

785
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: case or sextortion cases, some times involving girls, sometimes involving boys,

786
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: and in the case of boys, it's often.

787
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: The story of a.

788
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: Could be a high school football player, could be involved

789
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: in some other sports, somebody with a decently high profile

790
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: in a relative sense, right to their school, or to

791
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: their city, or to their town, whatever the case may be,

792
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: and somebody reaches out via social media to them, pretending

793
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: to be a girl, and it starts as casual conversation,

794
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: then it goes to flirtation, and then there's an ask.

795
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: This is usually the key moment, the ask that the

796
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: boy send a nude photo of himself, and once he

797
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: does that, the end visuals on the other end, and

798
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: it's not a girl, not a woman, but it's a

799
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: group of operators sometimes in this country a lot of

800
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: times elsewhere, who then say we're passing along to you

801
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: all of the lists, your list of friends and acquaintances

802
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: that we will be sending this photo to if you

803
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: do not pay us blank amount of money.

804
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 2: And often then it gets escalated from there.

805
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: And it often ends poorly and sometimes ends tragically. And

806
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: one of the cases that was mentioned on that occasion

807
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: from our guest was a Minnesota story in which there

808
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: were He didn't offer any details, but said this has

809
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: happened in a number of places, including Minnesota, well, Chipschoggins

810
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: found exactly that scenario, that story, and in this case

811
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: got incredible cooperation from the family, because that's what this

812
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: is all about.

813
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: A lot of.

814
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: Families, for all obvious reasons, don't want to talk about this.

815
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: They don't want to give all the details about it.

816
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: They want to keep it as private as possible in

817
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: their grief. But in this case, to their credit, I'll

818
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: again say, they said, we'll talk to you about it

819
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: because we want this cautionary tale to be known in

820
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: all of its depth and all of its detail, hopefully

821
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Speaker 1: helping others, helping kids, helping parents, et cetera. Dayline, Olivia, Minnesota.

822
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Speaker 1: This is from the Skogins piece today. Carter Bremseith was

823
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: nervous about parallel parking on his driver's test, so he

824
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: asked his dad to practice on a Sunday afternoon. They

825
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: found a parking lot and his dad, Dan set up

826
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Speaker 1: some cones.

827
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 2: I took a weekend for sixteen year old Carter.

828
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: He served as an altar boy at Saturday evening, mass

829
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: did homework afterward, and played board games with his parents

830
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: and two younger siblings. The next afternoon, he was behind

831
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Speaker 1: the wheel trying to angle that car just right, and

832
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 1: then went home. Several hours later, Carter took his own life.

833
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: His mom says there were not warning signs. One classmate

834
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: at Bold High School described him as everyone's best friend, straight,

835
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: a student in honors classes, member of the varsity golf team,

836
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: the robotics team, sang in the school choir, played baritone

837
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: horn in the band, operated spotlights for musicals. But, as

838
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: Chip writes, and as we discussed many months ago, more generally,

839
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Speaker 1: what happened to Carter in December twenty twenty one has

840
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: happened to thousands of young boys and girls in Minnesota

841
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: and beyond in recent years. Carter, though quickly became trapped,

842
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: received a direct message from a girl on Instagram late

843
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: Saturday night. Introduced, She introduced herself, struck up a conversation

844
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: he wrote about needing to practice his parking. It was

845
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: typical cheat teenage chit chat. Flirtatious exchanges continued the next day. Eventually,

846
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: the girl asked Carter to send a new photo of himself.

847
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 1: He complied after some coaxing. As soon as the conversation turned,

848
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: his mom said it turned hard.

849
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 2: Girl not a girl.

850
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: Carter's parents later learned that a person in Nigeria was

851
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: posing as the girl after hijacking her social media account.

852
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: Scammer took screenshots of Carter's followers on Insta threatened to

853
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: share the photo if he didn't transfer money. So he's

854
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 1: trapped in a scheme that law enforcement agencies have termed

855
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: sex stortion, a crime being committed against miners with such

856
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 1: alarming frequency that a top official with the Minnesota Bureau

857
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: of Criminal Apprehension calls it a pandemic that has taken

858
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: our country by storm. Carter's described among the first wave

859
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: of victims fit the profile popular athlete, successful student, involved

860
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: in extra curriculars, someone others look up to. They are

861
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: looking for the kids that have it all, said Bobby

862
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: Joe Pasdernik, special Agent in charge at the BCA. They

863
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: have the most to lose and they have the most

864
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: to hide. Perpetrators use aggressive tactics and continue to terrorize

865
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Speaker 1: after a payment is transferred, even as kids beg them

866
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: indeed to stop. Carter is one of nearly fifty teams

867
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Speaker 1: nationally who've died by suicide during a sextortion case, and

868
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: law enforcement officials believe there are more unreported.

869
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 2: For Carter.

870
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: The demands and threats continued after he sent a two

871
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: hundred dollars iTunes gift guard. Think about that, a two

872
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: hundred dollars iTunes gift guard. Less than one hour after

873
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: he sent the photo, his mom found him on his

874
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: bedroom floor with his hunting rifle nearby.

875
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 2: I feel like he was murdered, his dad said.

876
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: And then Ship lays out some of the things that

877
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: Pasernik attempts to do or how this individual attempts to

878
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: She tries to talk to her audiences, etc. Image scent, snap,

879
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: everything changes and immediately shifts to conversations about your life

880
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: is over, You're already dead, and five hundred dollars right now,

881
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: or this is going to your football team, this is

882
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: going to your entire family. They know because I've researched them.

883
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: They have researched them on social.

884
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: Media. And part of.

885
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: The discussion that we had when this came up the

886
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: first time is, and we talked about this with Andy Lueger,

887
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: is the challenge for parents who are horrified by this,

888
00:54:54,400 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 1: and in doing that, maybe in some cases I'm talking

889
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: about more broadly, more generally, the consensus makes it harder

890
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 1: for kids who've crossed that line. To go to their parents,

891
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: right to go to authorities because they're so ashamed and

892
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: they feel like they're going to get destroyed, they're gonna

893
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: get hammered, they're gonna get lectured to. And the challenge

894
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: then is to somehow try to create an environment that

895
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: makes it more likely that kids will not be brought

896
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: to that place where they're considering the worst of all

897
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: the options, taking their own life. The quote from the

898
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: BCA individual, make sure we're not blaming shaming the kiddos.

899
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: That's where the parent conversation comes into that, Hey, if

900
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: you make that mistake, we can work through anything. We'll

901
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 1: figure it out. The blame isn't on them, The blame

902
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: is on the set extorter. That's so key. And we

903
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: had texts from individuals who've been through various forms of

904
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: this when we discussed it several months.

905
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 2: Ago that.

906
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: The stories they told said, you can get to the

907
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: other side of this, Believe it or not. It's not

908
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 1: going to be fun, it's not going to be easy,

909
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: but there is a light at the end of this.

910
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: There is a way out of it, and that's part

911
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: of what has to be nurtured and encouraged over and

912
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: over again.

913
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 2: It was a.

914
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: Terrific job by Chip, And I'll say again, I'm just

915
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 1: giving you. I'm just scratching the surface of the story.

916
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: But the key to this kind of story, the only

917
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: reason this story exists is because you have a family,

918
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 1: in this case, a mother and a father brave enough

919
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: to share, which cannot be easy.

920
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 2: It can't be.

921
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: It's got to be such a horrific thing to relive

922
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: it and to make your own name public, your child's

923
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: name more public. But I just have so much respect

924
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: for parents who say we're going to do it because

925
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: we if nothing else, we lost our child. If we can,

926
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form, help avoid even one

927
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: more tragedy like this, you hope it's more, But even

928
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: one more tragedy like this where individuals and kids and

929
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: families see how you know, what can be learned from

930
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: this particular story, then obviously I'm sure they feel like

931
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: it's it's worth doing. But it's not. Can't be easy

932
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: to do. It's easy to say, can't be easy to do.

933
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: And that's the only way the story exists. That where

934
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: you can, you can flesh it out, you can humanize it,

935
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: you can lay out all aspects of it, branch on

936
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: Bryan Cafey and text line is open at six four

937
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: six eight six. I've got some texts that have already

938
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: come in, and as I said, we've talked about this

939
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: with Andy Lueger. He mentioned in the case of girls,

940
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: in some cases what it ends up being isn't just money.

941
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: It's then if it's if it's individuals here more local,

942
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: it's well, we want to meet with you. And then

943
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: it's the possibility of videos being done. It's the Annie

944
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: keps keeps getting upped. It's not always money at the

945
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: end of you know what the bad guys are are

946
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: interested in. So it's a it's another I guess outgrowth

947
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: byproduct of you know, the social media world. It all

948
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: kind of fits, unfortunately into that same classification.

949
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: We'll pause here. We've got some hockey to get to.

950
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: As I said, some good texts are coming in on

951
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: this subject, and who knows what else the rest of

952
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: the way, a little wolves conversation too, as we continue

953
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: our number two of sermons. The ESPN dot com investigative

954
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: piece that was more national in its scope on this

955
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: subject was by a very good reporter named Dan Wetzel.

956
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: That's what we had.

957
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: On on on that occasion, and there had been It's

958
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: not like that was the first story that had been

959
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: written on our only story, but it was one that

960
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: had been brought to my attention, and we had a

961
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: very good conversation with him, had a really lot of

962
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: really good texts on that as well. Six four six

963
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: eighty six is the bratch On Bryant k f A

964
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Speaker 1: n text line. Lots to get to here in our

965
00:59:54,160 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: remaining time. I do have a leftover combine question.

966
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 2: I assume.

967
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: That the combine ratings, in other words, the televising of

968
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: various drills must be pretty good. I have.

969
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 2: Zero interest in it.

970
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: If I never saw, I mean, I'll see the occasional

971
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: flash like somebody.

972
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 2: Was it was it a tight end?

973
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: I can't remember somebody on the vertical leap thing almost

974
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: touched the ceiling of the arena the stadium that it's

975
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: put that's in.

976
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: Okay, that's great, But.

977
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm obviously in the minority because I'm curious to get

978
01:00:53,880 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: from our audience how many people watch more than the speculation, right,

979
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: more than the stories that seem to come out of

980
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: the combine, which has to do with what are the

981
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: Viking's going to do?

982
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 2: At quarterback.

983
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: Is it a FATA complee that the Raiders are going

984
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: to draft Mendoza?

985
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 2: Right?

986
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: What's going to happen with Kirk Cousins, whatever the case

987
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: may be. I'm actually I'm talking about the actual drills.

988
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: I can't imagine. I'm not saying, by the way, it

989
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: doesn't serve a purpose when it comes to evaluating players.

990
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: But I'm here to tell you that I would not

991
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: want to watch one minute of any of it, and

992
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: I haven't.

993
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 2: But to you, the average group, do you watch it?

994
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,439
Speaker 1: Do you like or is it something you might put

995
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: on in the background because you love football and it

996
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: just reminds you of football?

997
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 2: Do you actually sit and watch? Okay, you know the

998
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 2: toe grip.

999
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: Let's see, let's see how so and so does in

1000
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: the toe grip that kind of a thing.

1001
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 2: I'm trying to even figure out. Here's what I'm watching now.

1002
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: It looks like, uh, it's a it's it's a receiver

1003
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: drill where the receiver faces one way and they throw

1004
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: a pass out. He catches it, gets rid of it,

1005
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: then he turns the other way and there's another passer

1006
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: throwing it the other way, and then down the field

1007
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: he's catching passes or dropping passes or whatever the case

1008
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: may be.

1009
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 2: Does this do it for you? Does it do it

1010
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: for you?

1011
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 3: Do you?

1012
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: I mean, you're a football guy, You're a big packer guy.

1013
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: Do you find yourself fascinated with watching the actual drills?

1014
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 3: You cannot pay me to watch this. It's I just

1015
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 3: don't It does nothing. I would rather watch, you know, Trailblazers,

1016
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 3: Jazz or you know, Blue Jackets and black Hawks over

1017
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 3: that any day of the week. And also, I mean,

1018
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 3: like I there's this Twitter account that I've been alerted

1019
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 3: to called the Draft Network, and literally all they've been

1020
01:02:56,080 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 3: doing is just tweeting out massive threads of measure So

1021
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: today they have a giant it's probably fifty tweets long

1022
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 3: of O line measurements and these people are eating it up.

1023
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 3: Spencer Fano, a tackle of Utah six five and a

1024
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 3: half is wait, three eleven hand sized nine inches.

1025
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 2: I don't care. I just don't like. Well, here's the thing.

1026
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: I again could say, I might care at what the

1027
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: ramifications are of a given analytic, but just tell me

1028
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't need to see it. I don't need and

1029
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: I may not even be interested in what you're saying

1030
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: but I just don't need to see, you know, what's

1031
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: the cliche about how the sausage is made. Obviously there's

1032
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: enough that it's tough. They don't put stuff on TV

1033
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: that people aren't interested in most.

1034
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 2: Of the time. When it comes to sports, it comes to.

1035
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 1: Football, and I understand football is king pro football more

1036
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: than any of them. But I'm I'm kind of interested

1037
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: to find out how many pe people out there actually,

1038
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: as they said, pay attention to what this team or

1039
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: what you know, how so and so looks. I guess

1040
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: if it's somebody who's a freak athlete and you see

1041
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,439
Speaker 1: something freaky, okay, But to me, that's not that that tough.

1042
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 2: Can you hit the breaking news sounder for me? Yes,

1043
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 2: the breaking news sounder because there.

1044
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: Is some there is some combine stuff to discuss that

1045
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: his Vikings related that I think is relatively new.

1046
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 2: Adam Schefter.

1047
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: Quote sources as saying that the Vikings have informed both

1048
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: running back Aaron Jones and defensive tackle Javon Hargrave that,

1049
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:43,479
Speaker 1: barring a trade, they will be released at the start

1050
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: of the league year this month. Jones's release will save

1051
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: the Vikings seven point seven to five million against the cap.

1052
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: Hargraves release will save them another ten point nine million.

1053
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: It's not surprising in either case, but it is interesting.

1054
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: I think when I've talked to the Jackals, most of

1055
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: them have said they'd be surprised if Jones comes back

1056
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: as the starter this year. Now, some of that was

1057
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: I think the money, not just whether he should continue

1058
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: to be a starter, but the money.

1059
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 2: And I don't know if this means.

1060
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: Jordan Mason moves up, because I think a lot of

1061
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: people still view him as more of a role player

1062
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: rather than a main guy. I've always liked him when

1063
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 1: I've seen him. So is there you know, is this

1064
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: something that could be handled in the draft?

1065
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 2: Is there?

1066
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: I know there's a couple of good free agent running

1067
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: backs out there. I don't know if we're willing to

1068
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: spend the money on any of that, But in any case,

1069
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: it may well be that the jonesy era.

1070
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 2: Is over.

1071
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: And it's not surprising in Hargraves case, right is that?

1072
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: And that goes back to money spent that didn't seem

1073
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: to be spent all that well.

1074
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 3: I would like to cash in my one smugness segments

1075
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 3: of the show.

1076
01:05:58,280 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 2: Can't help yourself, can't No?

1077
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 3: I goes in another category of the vikings finding out

1078
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 3: what the packers already knew. How many times as this happened,

1079
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 3: Zadarias Smith pops off the top of my head, Aaron Jones.

1080
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 3: Where the packers get rid of a guy, they say

1081
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 3: he's good, but we think for that money, it's not

1082
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 3: good enough, and we'll go in a different direction. And

1083
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 3: then the vikings go, you're getting rid of that guy,

1084
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 3: let's pick him up. And they find out, oh, well,

1085
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 3: he's not really worth that money and we're going to

1086
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 3: release him. So you know, yeah, you made a quality human, yes,

1087
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 3: but you know you found out what we already knew.

1088
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 2: You won that one, there's no question.

1089
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: Because the guy you replaced him with, the X Raider right,

1090
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: has been very gosh Jacobs's he's been outstanding. Now. I

1091
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: think Jones was was good while he was, you know,

1092
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: especially early. But it's that old deal of staying on

1093
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: the field, which is what you guys knew that was

1094
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: always gonna be the issue.

1095
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 2: I think that falls under the classification of.

1096
01:06:54,200 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: They needed somebody, and I again, you know, I'm I'm

1097
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: a back in my day, yell at cloud guy at

1098
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: the running back position. It's been de emphasized in a

1099
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: lot of offense za running backs diamond does and just

1100
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: get somebody who can hand the ball off to Hey

1101
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: once in a while.

1102
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 2: I've never believed that, and I never will.

1103
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that a premier running back is as

1104
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: important as it used to be the way this game

1105
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: is set up, but I still believe that it's a key.

1106
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: And we've even seen a number of offenses sort of

1107
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: reinstitute the concept of the importance of a running game

1108
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: and making that a bigger part of what you do.

1109
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: And I think that's been Frankly another one of the

1110
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: issues with the quarterback whisper.

1111
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 2: I don't think he emphasised.

1112
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: I don't think in his world, his passing world, it's

1113
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: as important to him as it should be. And I

1114
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: don't know what the answer is. I mean, again, could

1115
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: you get lucky in the draft? I have absolutely no idea.

1116
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: You're never supposed to use a time pick on a

1117
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: running back, right because the feeling is you can get

1118
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: one later.

1119
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:04,479
Speaker 2: Is that always true?

1120
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'll be curious to see where

1121
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: this goes, because the last thing I think this team

1122
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: should do is continue to de emphasize the importance of

1123
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: a running back. Now, maybe they've looked and said, we

1124
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: think Mason could be the guy. We just gotta getim

1125
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: a chance to do it. Or they may have something

1126
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,759
Speaker 1: else up their sleeve as well. Bottom the hour break,

1127
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 1: we'll come back with some hockey conversation, some good text

1128
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: coming in regarding the combine, and who knows what else.

1129
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 2: In our final thirty minutes today, answer quick look at the.

1130
01:08:51,920 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: NBA Standing's Western Conference Denver Nuggets number four, with the

1131
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: exact same record as US at five. They must have

1132
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: the tiebreaker on US. Both teams at thirty seven and

1133
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: twenty three, Denver and the Wolves. That's the matchup National TV.

1134
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: I think it's the second of the doubleheader later today.

1135
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm officially seconding Charles Barklay's rant.

1136
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: I think it was on the PTI Show. I think

1137
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: he did five minutes with Will Bond and Kornheiser.

1138
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 2: Friday. I get the world we're living in. I don't

1139
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 2: deny that.

1140
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: It's the direction everybody's going in, but I probably watch

1141
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: less pro basketball.

1142
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 2: Have watched less pro basketball this year.

1143
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: Than any year in recent memory. And the number one

1144
01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 1: reason is I can never remember on a given night,

1145
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: which streaming service, which network has the games. I'm being

1146
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: totally serio, and I know that's laziness. It's not that

1147
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 1: tough to do, but I'm just being honest about how

1148
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: my habits have been changed. And Barkley said, look, same thing.

1149
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 2: I get it.

1150
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: It's billion dollars, you know, But he said, I don't

1151
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 1: think we're doing ourselves any good. For the same reason

1152
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: I can't remember, I don't know, I don't want to look,

1153
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: and so I just got just watch something else, or

1154
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 1: I'll read, or I'll figure something, you know what I'm saying.

1155
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 1: It's been a real it's been much more of an

1156
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: issue because I I like, we've talked about it. I

1157
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: love the NBC broadcast, and I like some of the

1158
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: other ones. When I've watched them. I think they're all

1159
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: frankly better than ESPN. But I don't get to them

1160
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: as much. I just kind of lose it. But I digress.

1161
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: So what's the moral of the story. The moral of

1162
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: the story is, a year ago, the wolves were finished

1163
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 1: in the sixth spot, and they made a great run.

1164
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 2: We know, we know all about that, but.

1165
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: I think the goal absolutely has to be, let's start

1166
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: this thing from a better position. In other words, let's

1167
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: get at least the four, so we have one series

1168
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: at home. First round series would be at home. And

1169
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: it looks like, really the top two spots in the

1170
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: West are kind of getting settled. Thunder are forty six

1171
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: and fifteen. Spurs are in the second spot. They won,

1172
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: by the way, the Spurs eleven in a row. They're

1173
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 1: at forty three and sixteen. The Rockets are third, and

1174
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: it's a gap of six in the case of the Wolves,

1175
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 1: then it would be an even bigger gap, right six

1176
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 1: and a half. So one in two seem pretty well

1177
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: set given we're down to what nineteen twenty game whatever

1178
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: it is left.

1179
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 2: But three is within reach. Four is within reach obviously.

1180
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 1: So you got a bunch of teams after the top

1181
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: two bunched up, right, You've got all in that mix.

1182
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 1: You've got Houston, Denver, Minnesota, Lakers, even the Suns quite frankly,

1183
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 1: they're at thirty four and twenty six in the seventh spot,

1184
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 1: so they're only a game behind the Lakers. They are

1185
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: three games behind us in the lost column. You could say, well,

1186
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: the three guys period behind us, and then there's another

1187
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,759
Speaker 1: drop off to the Warriors, who are pretty much doomed

1188
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: at this point. I think Trailblazers, Clippers, et cetera. So

1189
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: to me, you're trying to accomplish two things. The rest

1190
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: of the way, you're trying to establish some measure of

1191
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: consistency if you're the Wolves, and in doing that, maybe

1192
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 1: it's a byproduct to that you are moving up so

1193
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 1: that you're not sitting at six at the start of

1194
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 1: this whole process.

1195
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,719
Speaker 2: And again the the there.

1196
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: Are set, you're in that in that second plateau behind

1197
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: the Thunder and the Spurs. What do we need to

1198
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 1: know about the Blues game today? They're a very beatable team.

1199
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 3: They they had a couple good games they're coming off of,

1200
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 3: but they're it was mentioned going back to the argument

1201
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 3: we would pat with every team is good. It's like

1202
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 3: name one bad NHL team and fallness goes well. Saint

1203
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 3: Louis isn't very good. So if after laying an egg

1204
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 3: at home finally after the Olympic break, hopefully vibes are

1205
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 3: good and they honor all the Olympians from from US

1206
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 3: and elsewhere. Hopefully this is a textbook bounce back game.

1207
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 3: But Quinnhes will be fresh off a flight from New York. Yeah,

1208
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 3: and he'll probably go right back on one after the game.

1209
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 2: Who's in the net tonight? Do we know? That's a

1210
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 2: great question. I don't know.

1211
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 3: I would imagine it would be Gus Buss. Okay, that

1212
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 3: would be my guess, but who knows if he's still

1213
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 3: feeling up to it, Yeah, after the way it finished

1214
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 3: the other night. Yeah, so if there's something else going on.

1215
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 3: But my educated guess would be Got.

1216
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 1: It's sad when you it's I think it's a statement

1217
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 1: more of us than than him that you make you

1218
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 1: get more attention for throwing up.

1219
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 2: Than you do making forty four saves? Did you make

1220
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 2: forty four that night? Yeah? I think it was forty

1221
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: two or forty four, that's what he was talking about.

1222
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 1: Consumed with the vomit story and Matt sadly I brought

1223
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:33,759
Speaker 1: up with Lavelle, and then he brought up other bathroom

1224
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 1: related stuff that I didn't even ask him to bring

1225
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 1: up on that basis for him about him, yeah, not

1226
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: throwing up, but having to use a facility on deadline

1227
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: and then missing a deadline because he blamed it on

1228
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:50,440
Speaker 1: a bad kill bossa he ate at the at the

1229
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: Twins in the Twins press box. I'll never forget more.

1230
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: It was more detail. He laid out more detail than

1231
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: I needed on the story.

1232
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 3: I'll never forget when we were in the Loons press

1233
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,560
Speaker 3: box for the Messi game and Lavelle goes to the

1234
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,759
Speaker 3: bathroom and missus Messi scoring a goal.

1235
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 1: He can't make it up, like, oh, that's too good.

1236
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 1: I'm surprised he didn't bring that up on Friday he

1237
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: came in. It's good to see him out of his memory.

1238
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: Regarding watching, well, it's in front of us right now,

1239
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 1: the combine. Our old friend Pete Njeriyan writes, Hey, Barrero,

1240
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 1: it is fascinating watching the forty yard run two twenty

1241
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: five bench are amazing. Look at the TV ratings. They

1242
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 1: will blow you away. Well, I mean he's a former

1243
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 1: player too, and you know he's a he's a big

1244
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 1: time athlete. Not me, So maybe that's the key to it.

1245
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just it's not that fascinating to me. Now,

1246
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 1: somebody did think that they did try to do some

1247
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: research on the numbers. Let me see if these are

1248
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 1: I can find.

1249
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 2: To something called Sportico.

1250
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 1: The twenty twenty four NFL combine average two hundred fifty

1251
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 1: thousand viewers. For reference, this is the average TV viewership

1252
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 1: of the NCAA Men's hockey frozen four the twenty twenty

1253
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: four combine. Well, I don't think he's trying to rip.

1254
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: I think he's just trying to make a comparison. Point

1255
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: also peaked at almost four undred thousand for Saturday afternoon coverage,

1256
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: which would put it on the same level as a

1257
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 1: regular season NHL game. Well, maybe he is trying to Yeah,

1258
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: it might be trying to trends some needling there. No,

1259
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 1: he does say, not trying to be smirch hockey with

1260
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:36,440
Speaker 1: these comparisons, just trying to add context.

1261
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 2: I'll take him at his word. I don't know.

1262
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm not Again, generally speaking, they're not gonna put something

1263
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,839
Speaker 1: on TV if there's not enough interest. But I sometimes

1264
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: I wonder whether we overrate how many people are actually

1265
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 1: watching at any given point. Now, you could say, even

1266
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 1: those numbers tell you something about how much we are,

1267
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 1: how much we you know, football is are. Our appetite

1268
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: for football is never ending, even if in this case

1269
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 1: there's no games being played, right, it's drills that are

1270
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 1: being played.

1271
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 2: The two of us just receive a text from Lavelle.

1272
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 3: Yes, and he said, I was also in the can

1273
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 3: in Buffalo when Justin Jefferson made that ridiculous cash.

1274
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 1: Oh maybe you can, Maybe you can fashion a column out.

1275
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,719
Speaker 1: If he has a couple more of these, then maybe

1276
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 1: he can fashion a full column out of it.

1277
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 2: At some point.

1278
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 3: Maybe if he had a couple more stomach aches this season,

1279
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 3: the Vikings would have made the playoffs.

1280
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: Well, how about he responsibly, for God's sake, I would say,

1281
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: how about that? Maybe that should be part of the

1282
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 1: conversation too. Oh that's classic level, isn't it so good?

1283
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: Clayton from Rochester, Dan, give a Rodge a full summer

1284
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: on Lake Minnetaka and access to our high grade facilities.

1285
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 2: You and guards.

1286
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 1: You will need ear plugs at training camp for those

1287
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: A Rodge passes cutting through the air.

1288
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 2: I hope it happens. I know I'm in the minority.

1289
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 1: I know, and I'm aware that there's no guarantee that

1290
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 1: it would work out from a football standpoint. But I'm

1291
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 1: a story follower, man. I'll admit it, I won't deny it.

1292
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: I just think it'd be just a terrific story. If

1293
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 1: it went great, it'd be one of the great Viking

1294
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: stories of all time. Let's face it, if it goes badly,

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Speaker 1: it would still be a hell of a story. Now,

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Speaker 1: I guess the problem the other possibilities is somewhere in between,

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Speaker 1: and they like eat, you know, like they eat their

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Speaker 1: way into the playoffs and they lose in the first round,

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Speaker 1: and then it's like, well, who cares, you know, because

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't do that. You know, you wouldn't make that

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Speaker 1: move if you think that's what's likely to happen. But

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Speaker 1: I I'm rooting for it. I think it appears less

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Speaker 1: and less likely. There's no there's no meaningful steam coming

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Speaker 1: out of this team to indicate that they are fascinated

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Speaker 1: with the idea, other than if you want to believe

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Speaker 1: in their general quote about all you know, we'll consider

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Speaker 1: everything is on the table, everything is under consideration. But

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Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily mean this is one of the things

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Speaker 1: under that big umbrella.

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Speaker 2: That's what I guess we would have to say.

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Speaker 1: Remember when the Vikings went into a season with Daln Cook,

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Speaker 1: Jack McKinnon, and Latavius Murray in the same running back room.

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Speaker 1: Koc would never Shermer's play calling that season. The last

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Speaker 1: time we had a sane offense. That's from Flim Flam

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Speaker 1: aka j D Philippos Berners.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Actually, Dan, I cannot believe the KOC will put his

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Speaker 1: Vikings career on the line by making JJ the number

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Speaker 1: one option.

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Speaker 2: JJ already got the GM fired.

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Speaker 1: And if this experiment doesn't work in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: KOs is out the door. He's coaching for his job

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Speaker 1: this year. Doesn't seem like ownership is too patient. That's

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Speaker 1: Dave from Bismarck. Well, that's the best. That's the most

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Speaker 1: persua argument that they're gonna get, they're gonna offer, They're

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Speaker 1: gonna bring somebody in who is a viable starter from

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Speaker 1: the beginning. But again I've used this cliche forever. How

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Speaker 1: do you thread the needle? Who is it with? Who's

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Speaker 1: the guy? It sounds good in theory, but as I

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Speaker 1: said much earlier in this programs, we're just joining us.

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Speaker 2: If the choices are.

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Speaker 1: Gino what's his last name from the used to be

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Speaker 1: with the Raider, Gino Smith, Gino Smith or Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: I'm going to the bathroom doesn't just doesn't excite me.

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Speaker 1: And that neither one of those. I don't look upon

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Speaker 1: those as Wow, you're really opening the door. All bets

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Speaker 1: are off.

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Speaker 2: At this point.

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Speaker 1: I don't think either those quarterbacks represent that to me.

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Speaker 1: But again, given the position they're in, there is no

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01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: sure fire guy likely available. I've already told you who

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Speaker 1: I would prefer, Rogers Jones, maybe even a Derek Carr.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'd have to do a deep dive on Okay, is

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Speaker 1: his body back?

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01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 2: Is he okay? Did he have anything left? His arms?

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Speaker 2: Not shot?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 2: As far as we know, But that's what we'll have

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Speaker 2: to find out. I'm I'm I.

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Speaker 1: Think we're going to know quick. Most people in the

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Speaker 1: business think that we're gonna know quick as well. Jeff

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Speaker 1: from is it Richfield? Let's see Jeff from Richfield. The

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Speaker 1: last two Superworld champs won because of their run games,

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Speaker 1: not quarterback play. Yeah, although again Sam Darnold was good

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Speaker 1: for much of the season. You could say he tailed

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Speaker 1: off at certain points, but the larger point is true.

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Speaker 1: I mean they had they had a good running back.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think, isn't he a free agent? I

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Speaker 1: think he's a free agent. And they and they, they

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Speaker 1: emphasized the running game. They used it to their success,

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Speaker 1: to great success. And they were able to lean on

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Speaker 1: it a key points as well. Real quick on the

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Speaker 1: Rogers thing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's just so funny how we were talking about

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Speaker 3: Aaron Jones and getting released, and I made the point, well,

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Speaker 3: we just never learned here. We always want attackers no

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Speaker 3: matter what, and well, it's ee of it. It's just

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Speaker 3: like they already figured out he's probably not worth that price,

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Speaker 3: and we're going a different direction and it typically does

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Speaker 3: not work out for the Vikings. And not even a

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Speaker 3: half hour later, we go, here's this former packer. Now

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Speaker 3: granted Rogers is a different category, but it still could

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Speaker 3: work out in that direction. He might he's not very

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Speaker 3: mobile anymore.

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Speaker 2: No, he isn't. That's undeniable. So he's not. He'll throw

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Speaker 2: to an extent. I think he can.

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Speaker 1: I think he has more he'd had more options here,

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Speaker 1: I do now. Then again, though, well now you're back

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Speaker 1: to who is the running back going to be? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what's the plan there? And you need a center, you

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01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 1: need you know, this offensive line, no matter how much

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Speaker 1: attention we've given, it still has some issues where you go, well,

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Speaker 1: if you don't have a mobile quarterback, and Rogers is

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Speaker 1: nowhere near as mobile as he once was.

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Speaker 2: That has to get fixed too. So it's it's.

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Speaker 1: It's probably fool's goal to even discuss it. It's too

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Speaker 1: much fun for me. It's it's like it's like comfort food.

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Speaker 1: I can't, I just can't, you know, get away from

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Speaker 1: it very very long. So we do have Wild Blues

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Speaker 1: on the fan this afternoon. What times does cripoff?

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Speaker 2: Do you know? It's four o'clock? Four o'clock.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of a weird matinee, but not matinee time,

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Speaker 3: I take it.

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Speaker 1: I would, I like, I like Sunday late, you know,

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Speaker 1: at mid or late afternoon games. And then I think

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Speaker 1: the Wolves are two or two thirty Central in Denver,

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Speaker 1: and that game you can hear on the on the

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Speaker 1: Timberwolves channel as as well. And that is you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've matched up nicely with Denver in the past.

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Speaker 1: It's not one of the teams that scares them, that's

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Speaker 1: for sure. I think Denver is better this year, although

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Speaker 1: they've had their own injury you know, the including Joker

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01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:15,879
Speaker 1: having some injuries earlier. But it's a nice little regular

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01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 1: season sort of like one of those okay, where are we?

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01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't change everything, obviously, It's one regular season game,

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01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: but now you are jockeying for position. Now all these

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Speaker 1: games matter if you do care about, you know, improving

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01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 1: your seating a little bit. I think, like I said,

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Speaker 1: what's changed a little bit to me in the conference

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Speaker 1: is Golden State's no longer viable, right, I mean, Steph

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Speaker 1: Curry's been out I think double digit games in a row.

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Speaker 1: They got killed by thirty by the Lakers. So you know,

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Speaker 1: like a year ago, they were a little scary for

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Speaker 1: the Wolves right until Curry got hurt. Now, they might

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01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: have beaten them anyway, but I don't think. I guess

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying is that the back end of the

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Speaker 1: the playoff standings now, I just don't think most of

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Speaker 1: those teams scare anybody in a way that a year

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Speaker 1: ago seemed like anything anybody could come from anywhere within

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01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 1: that the playoff standings in the conference, I think it's

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01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 1: now narrowed just a bit. And so a good game

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01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 1: to look forward to, and again it should be a

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Speaker 1: really good atmosphere for the while this afternoon, given first

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01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 1: chance for the home fans to celebrate the golden medal,

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01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 1: et cetera. So I'm assuming and they gotta feel like,

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Speaker 1: let's bounce right back. Let's not turn this into a

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Speaker 1: Wagnerian opera after what took place in Utah in our

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Speaker 1: second game back before or after the break. Tomorrow is

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Speaker 1: a very special edition of the Bumper Bumper Program. I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming Johnny Athletic will be among our guests. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: try to get Craig Kilbourne back. We have not had

1433
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: him on in months, so try to catch up with

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01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 1: craigers on what he's up to and his own thoughts

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01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 1: about his favorite basketball team. Enjoy the rest of the

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Speaker 1: afternoon and evening. Thanks for watching and listen thing today.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow at three o'clock