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Speaker 1: Parker Fox Mett Producer, Wednesday nine to noon at Parker

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Speaker 1: Fox two four via the X machine. How excited was

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Speaker 1: Parker last night? Kentucky and Louisville A fun Michigan beat

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Speaker 1: wake Forest by a point and overtime, Tenth rank Florida

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Speaker 1: edge Florida State by a couple. Big time college basketball

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Speaker 1: was in the air, and pa Fox assumably enjoyed it,

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Speaker 1: or did you watch any of it? Or did Taylor

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Speaker 1: make you snap photos of the Northern Lights for hours?

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Speaker 2: And good morning, good morning. Oh what a fun night.

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Speaker 3: We got Northern Lights, we got great college basketball, a

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Speaker 3: little wild action, the unfortunate loss and overtime. But my

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Speaker 3: night was spent watching a lot of college hoops and

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Speaker 3: highlighted by that Michigan Wake Forest game. I got a

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Speaker 3: kid from my high school, will underwo given little shot

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Speaker 3: out place for Wake Forests. Didn't clock any minutes, unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: but got to witness that game.

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Speaker 2: And what a game that was.

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Speaker 3: It's early, right, Like there's mistakes and and there's things

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Speaker 3: guys won't do, dry the ball over down the stretch,

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Speaker 3: calling bad time out, it's the whole deal.

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Speaker 1: But like that's the fun in it. They're just kids

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Speaker 1: at the time. They're just kids and and there their

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Speaker 1: kids on the move right at a time. That's right.

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Speaker 1: What's that mean? Michigan Wolverine starting five last night? Michigan Wolverines.

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Speaker 1: I forgot to look up the ranking. They got to

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Speaker 1: be top ten s. Yeah, they're six squad. So good

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Speaker 1: Wolverine starting five?

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Speaker 2: What a world?

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Speaker 1: Four fifths of the starting five is four fifths of

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Speaker 1: the starting five via the portal, we have y Axel Lindeborg.

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Speaker 1: That's right. From u A b u A b uab

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Speaker 1: got good for a little bit last year, right, Well

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Speaker 1: because of him. He's a he's a first team All

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Speaker 1: American type of talent. He's he's an NBA player. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Well he wasn't great last night, poor UAB. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you find somebody nice. He's like Yexel Lendeberg Lendeborg and

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Speaker 1: you raised him and he leaves not great last night,

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Speaker 1: but he's gonna change games.

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Speaker 2: How about a Damarra.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, played him at UCLA last year. He's all of

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Speaker 3: seven to five. He's huge seven five. Oh, he's just

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Speaker 3: a guest seven to two. No, he is like and

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Speaker 3: I think he's grown. They say he's growing too so

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Speaker 3: that's a that's a nightmare in itself. And you know,

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Speaker 3: and you see these seven five guys, A lot of

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Speaker 3: them don't move well or they're too skinny, and they

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Speaker 3: they're not courting enough to block shots.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many like Taco Fall would he have.

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Speaker 2: He had five block shots last night, probably got the

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Speaker 2: whole thing in front of me.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen points, thirteen rebound, six assists and five blocks a day, Mara.

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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you he didn't do much at UCLA

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Speaker 3: last year. I mean when we played against him, he

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Speaker 3: was out there and he impacted the game around the rim.

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Speaker 2: That kind of stuuse, you neutralized him, that's true. Let's yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know my big body, Billy.

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Speaker 1: Johnny Christie, Susie, Jamika and Antoine taking in the Michigan

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Speaker 1: and wake Forest game last night. Get to the arena like, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: who who's the day Dad?

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Speaker 2: Who's the day? Amara?

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Speaker 1: Who's Yaxel Lindborg, Billy, Johnny Christie, Susy. To make Antoine

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Speaker 1: calm down, let me tell you about Morez Johnson junior

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Speaker 1: one season at Illinois flips to the conference rival.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and my my my ring fingers still messed up

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Speaker 3: from him. We were trying rings. Taylor and I were

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Speaker 3: trying wedding bands for me, me down diamonds and U A.

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Speaker 3: I had the story from Mares Johnson he snapped my

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Speaker 2: We played Illinois last year. But just a tough dude.

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Speaker 3: Obviously an incidental type of thing, but such a tough

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Speaker 3: dude and he's going to impact that game. Their front

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Speaker 3: court is as good as it gets across college basketball.

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Speaker 1: Elliott cad Do, Caddo Cado, Elliott Caddeau. He was in

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Speaker 1: North Carolina guard last year stud and then we have

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Speaker 1: guard a Namari Bett Burnette. Namari Burnette, He's he's this

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Speaker 1: old schooler's favorite player on the Michigan Wolverines.

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Speaker 2: You know why, why is that it's his third year there.

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Speaker 3: But he started at Texas Tech and then went to

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Speaker 1: But at least he didn't be like, Nah, that ain't it.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna leave. Nah, that ain't it. I

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Speaker 1: think I'm gonna leave again. Nah, that ain't it.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna leave again.

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Speaker 1: None of this none of this gets under your skin

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Speaker 1: at all, does it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, let's just do it again. Lenda Borg.

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Speaker 1: Led uab Or's part of it to quasi prominence last

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Speaker 1: year a day, Mara u c l A last year,

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Speaker 1: year at Michigan. So four fists of the starting five,

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Speaker 1: view of the portal, and if if, if it's not

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Speaker 1: to their liking, guess what, go somewhere else? So leave

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Speaker 1: again and again and again. So good luck keeping those

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Speaker 1: mid majors relevant. But nothing to see here, right because

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Speaker 1: those those are those are the available avenues. Take the

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Speaker 1: available avenues. I understand it. But Billy Johnny Christie, Suzi,

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Speaker 1: Tamika Antwine, Derek Nicole, a Vastella and laughing crime Baby,

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Speaker 1: all they're doing is looking for favorite players. Yeah, who

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Speaker 1: can last year after year after year? They can get

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Speaker 1: game warns as a freshman, sophomore, then maybe they leave,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the question.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't get under your skin, yack does because you

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Speaker 3: know I'm old school. You know, Duke and North Carolina

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Speaker 3: rivalry and you're playing against that team for four years,

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Speaker 3: the whole deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Draft and so I'm kind of old school in that way,

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Speaker 3: but you can't fight it anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's just is.

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Speaker 3: It is what it is, and you have to find

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Speaker 3: ways as a college coach to win basketball games, to

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Speaker 3: stay relevant. And when you have if you're a mid

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Speaker 3: major college coach, yeah, it's becoming there is it's hard.

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Speaker 3: Why find a blue chipper, you have no chance of

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Speaker 3: keeping said blue chipper. Well, here's the one thing that

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Speaker 3: they're not taking as many freshmen, right, So you're taking

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Speaker 3: the five star in the four star these major programs

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Speaker 3: because you can pay them. But the three star or

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Speaker 3: the underrated kid, he's sliding into that mid major. But

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Speaker 3: then that kid turns into Yaxa Londenborg at UAB and

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Speaker 3: by the time he's a junior, now he's at Michigan.

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Speaker 3: So you might get him for a couple of years

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Speaker 4: Do you think within Sorry to klomp, but do you

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Speaker 4: think within like certain robberies. So you mentioned a couple

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Speaker 4: I mean that's in the same conference. It's obnoxious totally,

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Speaker 4: But would you ever see a blue devil become a

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Speaker 2: They are still like and this is whops.

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Speaker 4: But you know what I mean, like helmet school institutions

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Speaker 4: where that just seems sacrilegious. I just wonder when that

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Speaker 4: high enders. No, there might be a bench player or

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Speaker 4: a student manager that got two minutes in a non

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Speaker 4: conference game, yeah, for one of these schools, But that

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Speaker 4: seems impossible that that would ever happen, that the Cameron

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Speaker 1: Illinois Michigan ain't Duke North Carolina. No, But I mean

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Speaker 1: it's a pretty it's a pretty agent rivalry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 3: And you talk about a guy in Murres Johnson, who

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Speaker 3: for Illinois. What makes him enter right, like, what is

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Speaker 3: what tips him off to go somewhere else? Well, he

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Speaker 3: knows that his coach at Illinois, Brad Underwood, is just

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Speaker 3: going to go over to Europe and he's going to

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: So you got to be aware of that. So then

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Speaker 3: that that's him protecting himself right entering the portal. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I'll go there. So I think it's it's one of those.

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Speaker 3: But to answer Nortal's question, I don't think so. I

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Speaker 2: It ever happened? I mean, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: Now yeah, now I'm super into at the top of

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Speaker 1: we ever had in basketball duke North Carolina North Carolina like.

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Speaker 2: A Kansas type of situation? I don't think so. I

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Speaker 2: bet Obama Auburn.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know things like that that that probably is

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Speaker 3: more more common or could happen more than than basketball,

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Speaker 3: to like like Cad Tyson, who the Gophers have. He's

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Speaker 3: Carolina last year. Like, you don't play at North Carolina,

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Speaker 3: probably not say Minnesota's down a level, but it is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when they made that when they made that d

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Speaker 4: ron he ended up he didn't go to Duke correct. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Shire's like hands are tied, man total. I mean you

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Speaker 4: you you were at the cult totally. Now you actually

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Speaker 4: Mississippi and he has to become a wildcat just ousted

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Speaker 2: It's not allowed.

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Speaker 3: Well, the fact that it's even like a thing like

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Speaker 3: it is technically allowed is crazy because like back in

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Speaker 3: five years ago, you would never have a guy you're

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Speaker 3: supposed to hate North Carolina if you're Duke, or you're

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Speaker 3: supposed to vice versa like, you're not supposed to be

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Speaker 2: Well, I bet you.

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Speaker 1: Interestingly, if the minutia was put together from when the

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Speaker 1: leave again and then leave again. It's the percentage of

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Speaker 1: players who transfer and and they're doing it for their

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Speaker 1: best interest of their team, so that messhes okay, But

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Speaker 1: the large percentage, the grandee Os massive percentage of these

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Speaker 1: players leaving are not going to go to the NBA.

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Speaker 1: So therefore it is okay, my man playing five minutes

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Speaker 2: I'm out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a really good question because I

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Speaker 3: He's paid those eight guys, so those are the eight guys.

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Speaker 2: He's going to play.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't care what you show nine to ten life,

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of politics in it.

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Speaker 1: But I you're telling me if you hit on a

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Speaker 3: That's obviously you know who knows what each coach is doing.

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Speaker 2: And here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: You put my son on the team and we'll start there,

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Speaker 2: It probably does. That's just and that's that's so freaking slimy.

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Speaker 3: It stinks for the kid the most part, in my opinion, right,

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Speaker 3: I did it for eight It's had a lot of fun,

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Speaker 4: I wonder if that keeps it from happening more often. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Totally okay.

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Speaker 4: Well, my dad's offering a range Rover and a little

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Speaker 1: And that is ten of ten from a self awareness standpoint.

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Speaker 1: Or the option is I go to this super small school,

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Speaker 2: I think they take the easy way out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, And that's a tough situation, right is

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Speaker 3: that too many times with teammates, especially when I was

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Speaker 2: Like we worked nine to five.

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Speaker 3: No, I guess that comes off that way unfortunately, but

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Speaker 2: Way too much. He's looking to win the MVP again.

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Speaker 1: Kate Cunningham's November goes a little something like this. Thirty

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Speaker 1: Why. A couple of weeks ago, speaking a league pass,

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Speaker 2: Yes, I understand Tyreese's.

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Speaker 3: Is out for the year and he's hurt, but like,

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Speaker 3: let's let's let's try to run this thing back. Let's

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Speaker 3: try to get back to the playoffs. Let's try to

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Speaker 3: you know, we have a tough, gritty team. We have

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Speaker 3: some good bench players in Nemhart and Mee Smith and

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Speaker 3: a couple of these other guys like, can't we figure

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Speaker 3: it out somehow, Benedict Mathern, But but no, and they

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Speaker 3: look completely out of sorts.

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Speaker 1: If there's one player on the Pacers, Yeah, who was

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Speaker 1: frustrated Miles Turner didn't get the what he felt requisite

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Speaker 1: contract offer from the Pacers, got more from the Bucks

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Speaker 1: and got a chance to play with Gianness with tyres down.

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Speaker 1: If one person voices an opinion or or privately, even

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Speaker 1: as the source is like sucks, you shouldn't have done that.

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Speaker 1: And they actually transferred when they were in college, they're frauds. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: three years ago you went from UA B to West Virginia,

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Speaker 1: the West Virginia to Michigan. I mean, you know, so

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Speaker 1: you got to kind of call them the kettle black, right,

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Speaker 1: lastly a minute and a half and you get it all.

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Speaker 1: That's the last time we'll see you until Monday. Bears

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Speaker 1: are Vikings? Who wins them?

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think I'm really excited for this game. I'm really

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Speaker 3: excited for Jju in this game. Just an opportunity again

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Speaker 3: for him to go out and uh and to lead

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Speaker 3: a team pretty healthy Vikings roster. From my understanding, you

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Speaker 3: can correct me if I'm wrong. But defense is healthy,

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Speaker 3: offensive line is healthy. I loved your bit yesterday with

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Speaker 3: KOs talking about the penalties and and hey, were the

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Speaker 3: Ravens doing some things? Were they running some shifts on

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Speaker 3: the defensive line. Yes, but we just have to be

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Speaker 3: better playing and simple. I think that's kind of how

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Speaker 3: Chaos answered that question. This is a Bears team you

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Speaker 3: beat once, they're gonna want to, you know, come to

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Speaker 3: your place and beat you because because you beat him

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Speaker 3: at their place. I think Caleb Williams is playing awesome

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Speaker 3: football right now. I think some of the stuff he

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Speaker 3: is doing is going underrated. They have a pretty good

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Speaker 3: receiving corps. I love Roma Dunza. I love what he does.

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Speaker 3: I love that backup running back too. I'm missing the

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Speaker 3: name Mangami something like that, right, you got that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah guy an guy? Yeah, he runs so hard.

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Speaker 3: They got a good one two punch now with with

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Speaker 3: with Swift and him.

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Speaker 2: So I think this is a good Bears team. But

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Speaker 2: I think we can I think we can win.

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be the attitude, and then you're

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Speaker 3: gonna see it right away in the first quarters. What

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Speaker 3: kind of attitude are we coming out with? As a

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Speaker 3: Vikings team, are we here to just settle and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna let JJ get comfortable for the rest of

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Speaker 3: the year.

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Speaker 2: And it is what it is.

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Speaker 3: We don't care about a record or hey we're gonna

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Speaker 3: put the we're gonna put the hammer down. We're trying

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Speaker 3: to win football games. And I think that's, uh, that's

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Speaker 3: the kind of coach Kevin O'Connell is.

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited to see it.

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Speaker 1: Del Taylor, I say, hi, thanks for the contribution, and

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Speaker 1: we'll see you on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Talking to the media yesterday, here is Wes Phillips on

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Speaker 4: the combination of developing the kid QB but also trying

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Speaker 4: to win games.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I don't think we ever go into a game saying, hey,

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Speaker 6: this is about JJ's development in this game. We're going

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Speaker 6: into the game to win the football game and to

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Speaker 6: set up a plan in a way that helps him

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Speaker 6: as much as possible, like we would with any quarterback

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Speaker 6: that we've been with.

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Speaker 2: But you know, it wouldn't be.

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Speaker 6: Fair to the other guys to kind of hold back

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Speaker 6: per se. We're trying to set up the best plan

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Speaker 6: for the guys we have, and JJ included, but wouldn't

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Speaker 6: be fair to anyone else on our football team to

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Speaker 6: kind of hold back on anything that we felt we

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Speaker 6: needed to go win a football game.

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Speaker 1: I like your NFL oddities idea for the final hour. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I told you i'd have one or two.

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Speaker 2: I have four. I'm going to burn one right now.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of JJ McCarthy, an NFL oddity, JJ McCarthy had

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Speaker 1: forty seven dropbacks versus Baltimore since two thousand quarterbacks twenty

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Speaker 1: two years of age or younger. Since two thousand, quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: twenty two years of age or younger have won eleven

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Speaker 1: and lost seventy seven when they have at least forty

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Speaker 1: five dropbacks in a game. The most recent winner was

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Speaker 1: a twenty two year old Justin Herbert in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's an NFL adity.

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Speaker 4: Mike bite Vices Bites continue. We'll jump back and forth.

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Speaker 4: We hated my audity, Well, I hate what it implies. Oh,

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Speaker 4: I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: That's what I But it complimented you some throwaway lines

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Speaker 1: you've had the last couple of days, just in a

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Speaker 1: normal hot takes it happy hour. Why I put this

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Speaker 1: in was because, like if we were having hot takes

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Speaker 1: at happy Hour with Isaac and like not you know,

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Speaker 1: reading from the toll Stoy or crafting, you know, crafting

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Speaker 1: analytical bits that have context and you build up to something.

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Speaker 1: We're just chatting back and forth. No fewer than three

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Speaker 1: times if you have you said, like, JJ can't throw

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Speaker 1: that much, you you can't throw in that much? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: something like that. So you said that, I remembered it,

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Speaker 1: and we found that. So it compliments and or amplifies

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Speaker 1: what the con has said in the last couple of days.

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Speaker 4: No, I love it, but it's it's it again, and

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Speaker 4: I think it kind of continues to reinforce the complementary

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Speaker 4: nature of how these games need to be one with

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Speaker 4: the roster we have while trying to develop. That's why

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Speaker 4: I included that audio, because I think it's a very

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Speaker 4: very difficult path that this team chose to go down.

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Speaker 1: Look here, I wouldn't have shared the oddity if you weren't,

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Speaker 1: if you were going to try to get the head

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Speaker 1: coach fired.

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Speaker 2: I hope honestly, I just.

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Speaker 1: You said, let's put some oddities in you like the

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Speaker 1: ones you have. So I found four that I like.

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Speaker 4: Now I have three, oh, mikes, bikes, complementary nature of things,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of that, it includes takeaways.

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Speaker 4: Here's Brian Flores well, thus far in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 4: a lack of takeaway.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, we always work on it. Work on

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Speaker 7: it every week, We talk about it every day. It's

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Speaker 7: obviously a major emphasis on it. And you know, it's

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Speaker 7: funny the balls, it bounces it, you know, it's an

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Speaker 7: odd shape ball that bounces funny. I think we had,

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Speaker 7: you know, several tip balls last you know Sunday that

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Speaker 7: you know, in other games they fall right into your

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Speaker 7: hands and this game is just out of our reach.

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Speaker 2: And that's happened a few times this year.

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Speaker 7: You know, some of those tip balls, you know, if

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Speaker 7: they're not tip, you know, it looks like a corner's

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Speaker 7: right in position to maybe steal one.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll continue to emphasize it.

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Speaker 4: That's uh So, it kind of got me thinking, and

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Speaker 4: I'm shooting from the from the lip slash hip here

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Speaker 4: because I don't I haven't tracked whether it's time of possession,

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Speaker 4: how much the Vikings have let in games versus trailed,

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Speaker 4: but I can tell you this based on game flow

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five, the Vikings haven't had the lead

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Speaker 4: as much as they did a year ago. And I'm

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Speaker 4: just curious in terms of there's the opportunistic nature of it.

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Speaker 4: You think about the pick six by Isaiah Rodgers. We

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Speaker 4: two even that in itself was a little bit of well,

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Speaker 4: it's not shaped ball, it bounces around and just the

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Speaker 4: way b Flow said that kind of made me laugh.

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Speaker 4: But in that that's a tip from Hitman that falls

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Speaker 4: right into the bread basket of Isaiah Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: I think he goes eighty seven to the house.

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Speaker 4: Hey, there's an opportunistic side of it, there's an unpredictable

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Speaker 4: side of it. But I just wonder how much gameflow

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Speaker 4: plays into this, where when you're not in the lead

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Speaker 4: as often as you were a year ago, teams aren't

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Speaker 4: taking chances, Teams aren't trying to stretch, Teams aren't maybe

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Speaker 4: trying to push as hard as they would have had

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Speaker 4: to a year ago while chasing the Vikings, the vikings

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Speaker 4: now doing the chasing. I just wonder the five or

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Speaker 4: six different variables go into it. But in the vein

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Speaker 4: of being complementary, that's something that is noticeably absent in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: And it's tough to predict.

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Speaker 4: It's tough to say, do better defense, as he says,

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Speaker 4: they work on it every day. But that's something we need, man,

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Speaker 4: We need some big takes in spots as we raise

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Speaker 4: the kid QB, putting him and the offense with better

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Speaker 4: opportunities to put points on the board.

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Speaker 1: Why I asked the head coach yesterday about the tip

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Speaker 1: path says he calls block shots the tip pass terrorism

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Speaker 1: is How to frame it up is that is it

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Speaker 1: incumbent upon the offensive? Linemen to make sure they're not

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Speaker 1: in a position to tip those passes or does most

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Speaker 1: of it fall on the quarterback? And you know, he

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Speaker 1: said it's both, and then he kind of he kind

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Speaker 1: of explained, but you know, then I followed it up with, well,

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Speaker 1: there might be things you can do off that, right,

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Speaker 1: all right, I didn't ask it right and we didn't

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Speaker 1: have enough time. But here's what i'man when I watch

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Speaker 1: these games back, Uh, the Vikings do get a fair

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Speaker 1: amount of passes, fairmouse too strong. Every team tips passes

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Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. But when I watch when

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Speaker 1: I watch McCarthy games back, it's I swear defensive linemen

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Speaker 1: are just there absolutely jettisoning part of their rush and

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Speaker 1: trying to set up the perfect leap to tip a pass.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I asked, is there something you can

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Speaker 1: do off of it? Because if you see guys just

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Speaker 1: just shooting in hard, stopping and then like looking and

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Speaker 1: then they think they're going to get the timing right

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Speaker 1: to tip a pass, yeah, that's by scheme. So therefore

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Speaker 1: there has to be something you can do off that.

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Speaker 2: But like I was.

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Speaker 1: Thinking, like pump fake or hitch or something like that.

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Speaker 1: But then you hold the ball a second and half louder,

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Speaker 1: and that the longer, and that sounds like a stripsack.

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Speaker 4: Well, and how how can you predict that internal because

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Speaker 4: you you would have to call the right play, the

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Speaker 4: right answer to that moment.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: And now you got JJ potentially in their second guessing

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Speaker 4: he has a hitch.

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Speaker 2: Somebody comes around the backside, and well, disaster ensues. Boxbox box.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I'll do. We'll pause.

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Speaker 2: Mike joins us now.

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Speaker 1: And there are some super compelling games this weekend, and

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Speaker 1: your NBC Football Night in America Tilt might be the

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Speaker 1: glitsiest of them all. Detroit and Dan Campbell calling the

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Speaker 1: plays against the champions at Lincoln Financial. So tell me

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Speaker 1: America presentation and good morning.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is for the third time during the season.

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Speaker 5: We're usually there for the Week one game, and we

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Speaker 5: were there those started between the Cowboys and the Eagles,

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Speaker 5: but we were at Packers Cowboys. We were at Packers Steelers,

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Speaker 5: and we're going to go to Philadelphia for Sunday Night's game.

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Speaker 5: And the other thing that makes it you've got really

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Speaker 5: the four best teams right now in the NFC playing

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Speaker 5: in a fairly short time period. On Sunday, Seahawks RAMS

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Speaker 5: is tucked into the late afternoon four h five ET

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Speaker 5: window regional broadcast because Chiefs Broncos have the four to

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Speaker 5: twenty five big tent, Big Top CBS game. Seahawks RANS

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Speaker 5: is consequential because they're both seven and two. So one

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Speaker 5: of those teams is going to be eight and two,

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Speaker 5: and the winner of that game and the winner of

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Speaker 5: Lions equals. Those are the two teams that are going

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Speaker 5: to at least for now be the potential one seed

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Speaker 5: with the all important loan by. And let me just

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Speaker 5: say this. We talked about it earlier today on PFT Live.

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Speaker 5: But if they're going to do this flexing thing, the

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Speaker 5: most important windows in prime time to program when you're

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Speaker 5: making the schedule in April and may primetime standalone games

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Speaker 5: in November because it's late enough in the season that

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Speaker 5: the bad teams will have declared themselves. But it's too

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Speaker 5: early to flex. Raiders Cowboys. Is the turd in the

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Speaker 5: punch bowl this weekend that we get on Monday Night

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Speaker 5: with all these other great games, and whether it was

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Speaker 5: Seahawks Rams, whether it's one of these other games, Bears, Vikings,

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Speaker 5: I mean there are Jaguars, Chargers, is even more compelling

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Speaker 5: than Raiders Cowboys. So they really need to look at

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Speaker 5: that because those games in November, you got to get

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Speaker 5: those right. We can't have the Raiders in back to

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Speaker 5: back primetime weeks in November when everyone had reason to

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Speaker 5: believe that the Raiders were not going to be a contender,

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Speaker 5: not in that division. So the league needs to do

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Speaker 5: a better job of guessing which games are going to

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Speaker 5: be compelling in primetime in November because there's nothing they

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Speaker 5: can do about it. They can't flex that one out

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Speaker 5: because if they could, I guarantee you they.

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Speaker 1: Would brilliant with the Eagles, and you watch as much

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Speaker 1: as you can Monday night. How about that Jalen Phillips,

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Speaker 1: the new Eagle. I mean, nobody cared when he played

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Speaker 1: for Miami night at LAMBA.

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Speaker 2: He was a menacing presence. Jalen Phillips.

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Speaker 5: He had six and a half sacks in eight games

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three when Vic Fangio, now the Eagles

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Speaker 5: defensive coordinator, was working for the Dolphins, popped the Achilles

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Speaker 5: tendon on the Black Friday game against the Jets. And

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Speaker 5: you know, it's weird. And I haven't watched a lot

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Speaker 5: of Dolphins this year. I haven't seen Jalen Phillips in action,

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Speaker 5: but just on the sideline. You take him out of

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Speaker 5: the Dolphins uniform, you put in the Eagles uniform, and

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Speaker 5: he looks different, right, He just looks different, and he's

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Speaker 5: going to play different in the perception of many because

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Speaker 5: we haven't paid much attention to him. And you put

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Speaker 5: him in a defense that has a Jalen Carter that

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Speaker 5: commands extra attention, all of a sudden, Jalen Phillips is

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Speaker 5: able to run free. So as Jihad Campbell, the Eagles

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Speaker 5: first round pick, said when they traded up one spot

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Speaker 5: to get him at number thirty one. This year, the

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Speaker 5: richer get rich.

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Speaker 1: The Vikings get the Bears this weekend and are favored

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Speaker 1: by three and will win because that's what they do.

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Speaker 2: Off losses, they a losses.

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Speaker 1: They have unexplainable phenomena to them, like eight ball starts.

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Speaker 2: How do you see it?

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Speaker 5: I like the factually correct pluralization of phenomenon, not phenomenons, phenomena, phenomena, phenomena. Okay,

751
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Speaker 5: so here's my beef. Here's my beef. This is my concern.

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Speaker 5: I feel like some weeks Kevin O'Connell is designing a

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Speaker 5: game plan that is aimed at suiting the skills and

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Speaker 5: abilities and minimizing the limitations of JJ McCarthy. Other weeks,

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Speaker 5: I feel like he's trying to cram the square peg

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Speaker 5: into the round hole of the Kevin O'Connell system. Too

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Speaker 5: many passes against the Ravens. Gotta run, gotta stick to

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Speaker 5: the run. The run was working early when you look

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Speaker 5: at what they did the lines. Balance. They need balance

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Speaker 5: in the offense, running and passing. He can't just be

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Speaker 5: throw ball down the field. And when you get third

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Speaker 5: and one, like I understand, there's a temptation to take

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Speaker 5: a shot. It's a great spot to take a shot,

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Speaker 5: but they did it twice and it didn't work out

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Speaker 5: interceptions both times. I don't like that part of it.

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Speaker 5: I don't like when the offense strays from what JJ

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Speaker 5: McCarthy needs. And I know that this is part of

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Speaker 5: a broader effort to maybe try to coax him to

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Speaker 5: a level where he can be plugged into the O'Connell offense.

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Speaker 5: I know this is a longer term play, but they

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Speaker 5: did what they had to do to beat the Lions,

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Speaker 5: and then I feel like they got away from just

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Speaker 5: doing what you have to do. I think each week

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Speaker 5: the challenge is what do we have to do to

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Speaker 5: outscore this team? And with JJ McCarthy, I think it's

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Speaker 5: imperative to tailor the offense to get the most out

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Speaker 5: of what he does. And if I'm wrong, feel free

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Speaker 5: to disagree with me.

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Speaker 1: Well, now I understand what you're saying, and in fact,

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Speaker 1: having a twenty two year old through forty seven times

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Speaker 1: over the course of time is not preferred.

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Speaker 2: They just don't win games.

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Speaker 1: But nevertheless, it's there's so much work in progress here

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Speaker 1: when you have a core back at that age and

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Speaker 1: you're getting guys back from injury, like they should get

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Speaker 1: Josh Oliver back this week. But the dramatic swings they

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Speaker 1: just have to stop. I mean, it's are you going

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Speaker 1: to be bad or are you going to be good?

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Speaker 1: And they weren't.

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Speaker 5: Well it's a microcosm of what the Vikings have been

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Speaker 5: the last twenty years. It's goodyear bad. You're good year bad.

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Speaker 5: You're good year bad. You you can set your clock

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Speaker 5: to it for crying out loud.

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Speaker 1: See, they were bad against the Chargers. They to a

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Speaker 1: certain extent, were bad against the Falcons. They weren't bad

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Speaker 1: against the Ravens. There were just some moments where the

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Speaker 1: game got away and I think the Ravens are about

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Speaker 1: to rattle off a bunch of wins, by the way,

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Speaker 1: but it's there.

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Speaker 5: Are three games this year the Vikings have lost that

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Speaker 5: they could have won. And it actually helped. My son

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Speaker 5: and I during the Monday night game were doing the

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Speaker 5: mic and the mad Dog that's a win, that's a loss,

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Speaker 5: and I hate doing that, but I was just curious, like,

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Speaker 5: is their hope? Is their hope? And when you go

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Speaker 5: through the balance of the season and when you consider

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Speaker 5: the rest of the conference, and it's going to be

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Speaker 5: at the end of the day, Packers, Bears, Vikings, maybe

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Speaker 5: the pa Anthers forty nine Ers and whoever doesn't win

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Speaker 5: the division in the West, between the Seahawks and the Rams,

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Speaker 5: those teams are going to be jockeying for the three

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Speaker 5: wildcard spots. That's how it's shaking out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well it's I mean what I say, you know,

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Speaker 1: unless unless they lose this week and it looks different.

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Speaker 1: But they've been so ferocious and dominating off sketchy losses.

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Speaker 1: So yes, O'Connell six and one against the Bears, I

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Speaker 1: are something like that. I expect them to beat the Bears.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love has yet to show it doesn't take him

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Speaker 1: ninety minutes to figure out a Flores defense. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're at Lambeau last year and the Vikings are up

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Speaker 1: twenty eight zero in three seconds, you know, and it

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Speaker 1: just took a while to get back and then they

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Speaker 1: eventually got swept by the Vikings. So not saying I'm

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Speaker 1: not worried about those two, of course, of course people

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Speaker 1: should be. I mean, it's fifty to fifty equation. But

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Speaker 1: if they win both, I wouldn't be surprised. The next

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Speaker 1: one at Seattle. You go to Seattle against this valley

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Speaker 1: who team, against your former quarterback who helped you win

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Speaker 1: four team games. That's where the rubber meets the road

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Speaker 1: for me. With with what happens there, I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to dictate some things in the future.

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Speaker 5: I think that when you look at the next three games,

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Speaker 5: they need to win two of them to be alive

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Speaker 5: down the stretch. Whichever to pick any two, it's always

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Speaker 5: better to win the division. And if they would win

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Speaker 5: the next two weeks and then lose to Seattle, that

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Speaker 5: would be acceptable from the standpoint of staying alive for

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Speaker 5: tiebreakers and whatnot. Because right now two to zero in

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Speaker 5: the division, they can double that to four and zero

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Speaker 5: over the course of the next week and a half.

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Speaker 5: That will put them in good position for tiebreakers and whatnot.

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Speaker 5: Especially if they just if they sweep everyone in the division,

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Speaker 5: they're likely going to be the second place team. So

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Speaker 5: it's just vexing, and you're right. One week they look

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Speaker 5: like they could beat anybody, and the next week they

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Speaker 5: look like they would lose to anybody. And there are

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Speaker 5: just these various and look, here's the reality with football.

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Speaker 5: You've got and this is what I said in the

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Speaker 5: aftermath of the Thursday Night ten to seven. What a

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Speaker 5: weird bookend for week ten. It starts with a ten

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Speaker 5: to seven game, it ends with a ten to seven game,

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Speaker 5: and both were generally ugly to watch offensively, and you

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Speaker 5: never know is it because of the defense of the offense.

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Speaker 5: But that's the point. You got eleven guys out there

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Speaker 5: that have a plan, and you've got eleven other guys

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Speaker 5: that have an opposite plan, and you can't always expect

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Speaker 5: the offenses to click. Now at times like Monday night,

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Speaker 5: you watch the Packers and the Eagles and it's like,

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Speaker 5: do they have a strategy? Do they have a plan?

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Speaker 5: Is this just a random play generator? Like what are

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Speaker 5: these teams doing? So I think it's important to have

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Speaker 5: a strategy. You have to stick to it, you can't

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Speaker 5: stray from it. And I think that's the challenge for

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Speaker 5: the Vikings offensively. They need to design a game plan

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Speaker 5: every week that takes into account the opponent, but also

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Speaker 5: takes into account where JJ McCarthy currently is in his

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Speaker 5: overall developmental arc. And some weeks they get it just right.

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Speaker 5: This past week they were off and there were too

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Speaker 5: many throws not enough runs and that was that. And

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Speaker 5: you know you throw in the turnovers and the kick

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Speaker 5: return fumble. I mean, there's stuff that's going to happen.

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Speaker 5: You have to be able to overcome that the defense

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Speaker 5: played well but the offense didn't. And you know that's Hey,

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Speaker 5: every game has a winner and a loser. And you

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Speaker 5: know a lot of these teams are just kind of

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Speaker 5: clustered around five hundred in most years, there's a team

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Speaker 5: that's right around five hundred at Thanksgiving that figures it out.

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Speaker 5: And that's going to be the challenge, because, as Bill

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Speaker 5: Belichick says, football season begins at Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: P FT Seahawks rams incredibly compelling. How about the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: that the Broncos Chiefs favored by four and the mile

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Speaker 1: get High City Denver is one in seventeen against the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs back to twenty fifteen. What stimulate your brilliant mind

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Speaker 1: with this one, mister big Shield.

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Speaker 5: Must win game for the Kansas City Chiefs. If they

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Speaker 5: lose this game and fall to five and five, they

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Speaker 5: may not make the playoffs. And when you can. Since

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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahonmes came the starting quarterback in the twenty eighteen season,

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Speaker 5: their worst outcome in any season since twenty eighteen is

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Speaker 5: losing in overtime of the AFC Championship. That's their floor

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Speaker 5: and the game that could come back to haunt them

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Speaker 5: when it's time to tally up the standing. And they

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Speaker 5: were very fortunate that the Jaguars bungled a nineteen point

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Speaker 5: lead in the fourth quarter. That Jaguars game could be

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Speaker 5: the thing that puts them on the outside looking in,

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Speaker 5: because the Jaguars are going to have the head to

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Speaker 5: head tiebreaker if it comes down to one team or

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Speaker 5: the other, and they got the same record when it's

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Speaker 5: all said and done. Jaguars in Chiefs out all because

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Speaker 5: of that fall down, go boom, flip six, whatever you

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Speaker 5: want to call that play where Trevor Lawrence managed to

902
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Speaker 5: turn the disaster into a game winner. But the Chiefs,

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Speaker 5: if they lose this one, they may not make it

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Speaker 5: to the playoffs, and I think that adds extra intensity

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Speaker 5: for them and for the Broncos. They've won seven in

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Speaker 5: a row and some of those wins are kind of

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Speaker 5: fraudulent against lesser teams. Look at the Thursday night game

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Speaker 5: to get against the Jets. They should have lost to

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Speaker 5: the Giants. The only convincing when they've had in recent weeks,

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Speaker 5: unless I'm missing one was against the Cowboys, So I

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Speaker 5: think that the Chiefs with extra time to get ready,

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Speaker 5: and look at Andy Reid's record coming off of a bye,

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Speaker 5: this is a very tough spot for the Denver Broncluse,

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Speaker 5: who still have some cushion and who still very well

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Speaker 5: may win that division. But this is desperation time for

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Speaker 5: the Kansas City Chiefs, and so we know how they

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Speaker 5: play in the playoffs. This game for them has playoff

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Speaker 5: caliber implications because they may not even get there if

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Speaker 5: they don't win this one.

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Speaker 1: Last one a minute fifteen, you get it all. And

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Speaker 1: of course with the Giants open will take less than

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Speaker 1: Courtney cronin the ESPN follows you to talk about the Bears.

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Speaker 1: So now the Giants have an opening day ball out.

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Speaker 1: So of course there are many times Belichick to it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, no chance he gets back into the NFL

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Speaker 1: as a head coach, given let's say the whole aura

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Speaker 1: that is Bill right now, right.

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Speaker 5: My initial reaction was, there is no chance. There is

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Speaker 5: no way he's gotten one interview in two cycles. He

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Speaker 5: took the job at Chapel Hill last year after he

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Speaker 5: had done the back channel stuff to figure out whether

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Speaker 5: or not someone would hold a job for him and

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Speaker 5: hire him. And then the attitude that was conveyed by

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Speaker 5: his consiglieri mich Lombardi, basically, there's no good job, the

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Speaker 5: NFL stinks, college football is better, and you sprinkle in

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Speaker 5: the whole creative mus girlfriend handler all of that that's

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Speaker 5: going to come to town. And the fact that you know,

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Speaker 5: late in Belichick's career, you could make the argument he

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Speaker 5: lost his fastball or his mind when he made Matt

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Speaker 5: Patricia his offensive coordinator. That's what spelled his doom in

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Speaker 5: New England. There were reports that Robert Kraft wanted to

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Speaker 5: fire him after that season and not given the one

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Speaker 5: last year that he had. But but never underestimate the

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Speaker 5: power of nostalgia. And you look at what the Giants

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Speaker 5: have done since they won Super Bowl forty six. Their

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Speaker 5: record is abysmal. They've been to the playoffs twice, done

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Speaker 5: a lot worse than what having the best game day

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Speaker 5: coach in NFL history could do for them. And if

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Speaker 5: Bill Belichick can convince John Mahra and GM Joe Shane,

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Speaker 5: who's going to run the search, that he's not going

951
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Speaker 5: to come in and try to take over, that he's

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Speaker 5: not going to try to bring Lombardi with him, that

953
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Speaker 5: he's not going to fire everybody and hire this person,

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Speaker 5: this person, this person and try to run the whole operation.

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Speaker 5: If he truly is committed to just being the coach,

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Speaker 5: and he can sell that he will be trustworthy, that

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Speaker 5: he will live up to his word, that he won't

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Speaker 5: try to undermine Joe Shane. You know, Joe Shane drafts

959
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Speaker 5: a guy in the fourth round that Belichick doesn't want,

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Speaker 5: He'll accept it and he'll properly coach and develop the guy.

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Speaker 5: He won't be passive aggressive and try to prove that

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Speaker 5: Shane was wrong. If he just focuses on coaching the

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Speaker 5: team that he has. There's a way that Mara, who

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Speaker 5: I think has an extra special appreciation for nostalgia, and

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Speaker 5: he's dealing with some health challenges now, which will typically

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Speaker 5: make someone more reflective. There's a there's a needle to

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Speaker 5: thread there, but I still think it's a situation where

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Speaker 5: that thread is too thick.

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Speaker 2: Call you next week, mister Big Shield.

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Speaker 1: See you, buddy, See you, Mike Florioprofootball Talk dot Com,

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