Speaker 1: All right back on the Big One, seven hundred WLW
Speaker 1: nine seven. I'm Dan Carroll. I was not here last night.
Speaker 1: Mike Allen was here last night, and Joe Waddell is
Speaker 1: running the big board in the seven hundred WW command center.
Speaker 1: Mike Allen's signing for me last night. I want to
Speaker 1: thank him for that. My wife had a procedure, medical
Speaker 1: procedure yesterday, so my place was with her during the
Speaker 1: day and last night, so I could not be here,
Speaker 1: but I am here tonight and everything is going well
Speaker 1: with her, So I am happy about that, and we
Speaker 1: are ready to go till midnight tonight. We call this
Speaker 1: the Midweek Crisis Thursday Night Edition. Phone lines are open
Speaker 1: right now five three, seven, four nine, seven thousand, one,
Speaker 1: eight hundred, the Big One. So many things. It's another
Speaker 1: one of those days where I've got so much stuff
Speaker 1: and I literally I come in and as I'm putting
Speaker 1: the show together and I'm preparing for the show, I'm thinking, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm going to start with this. This story is so great,
Speaker 1: I'm going to start with this tonight, or I mean,
Speaker 1: this information is so so impactful, I want to start
Speaker 1: with this. But it just struck me that over the
Speaker 1: last I don't know, four or five months. Ever since
Speaker 1: members of the the current cabinet, the Trump cabinet, have
Speaker 1: been doing their work and exposing so much fraud. I
Speaker 1: really put all this into a couple of different categories.
Speaker 1: Now you have fraud where you've got operatives and people
Speaker 1: who are just ripping off the government, different government programs,
Speaker 1: whether it's Obamacare or Medicaid or I mean, you name
Speaker 1: the program. People have snapped programs, stuff that the that
Speaker 1: the EPA was doing, just so many ways and so
Speaker 1: many billions of dollars that were being ripped off. And
Speaker 1: then you've got, of course, the corruption with the individuals.
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about that because there's new stuff
Speaker 1: about James Comey, and I may start with that tonight.
Speaker 1: But as I was getting ready for the show tonight,
Speaker 1: I came across this piece with Dan Bongina was talking
Speaker 1: over the weekend about his time as Deputy Director of
Speaker 1: the FBI, and what he said is is that he
Speaker 1: is shocked to his core about what he has learned
Speaker 1: during ongoing investigations to root out public corruption and political
Speaker 1: weaponization of intelligence agencies. The Director and I are committed
Speaker 1: to stamping out public corruption. And the political weaponization of
Speaker 1: both law enforcement and intelligence operations. It's a priority for us.
Speaker 1: But what I have learned in the course of our
Speaker 1: properly predicated and necessary investigations into these air for aforementioned
Speaker 1: matters has shocked me to my core. He said, the
Speaker 1: republic cannot be run the way it is currently being run,
Speaker 1: and it will never be the same after learning what
Speaker 1: he has learned, we are going to conduct these righteous
Speaker 1: and proper investigations by the book and in accordance with
Speaker 1: the law. Bongino's post concluded, we are going to get
Speaker 1: answers we all deserve. As with any investigation, I cannot
Speaker 1: predict where it will land. I can only promise you
Speaker 1: and honest and dignified effort at truth. Not my truth,
Speaker 1: not your truth, but the truth. And so that. And
Speaker 1: for a guy like Dan Bongina, who has served in
Speaker 1: law previously before he became deputy Director of the FBI,
Speaker 1: served in law enforcement, was in the Secret Service, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy who has been there, done that,
Speaker 1: and he would he would lean on that experience a
Speaker 1: lot of times during the times that I saw him
Speaker 1: on Fox News because he was really becoming a rising
Speaker 1: superstar at Fox News before he left and was doing
Speaker 1: his own thing with the podcast and the other interest
Speaker 1: that he had going on. And then of course Trump
Speaker 1: wanted him to be the deputy director of the FBI,
Speaker 1: and so for him to make these kind of admissions
Speaker 1: a guy who I got to say he knew where
Speaker 1: all the bodies were buried, but really had a pretty
Speaker 1: good sense of where the bodies are buried and what
Speaker 1: has been going on to say that he is shocked
Speaker 1: to his core about the amount of corruption and illegalities
Speaker 1: and dirty dealing that he is finding in his position
Speaker 1: as Deputy director of the FBI. It was reported earlier
Speaker 1: this month the boon Gino was debating stepping down unless
Speaker 1: Attorney General Pam Bondi resigned. The two reportedly had a
Speaker 1: fallout over how the Epstein documents were handled in I'm
Speaker 1: going to get into the Epstein documents a little bit tonight.
Speaker 1: I've got Cheryl Chumley on After the News at the
Speaker 1: bottom of the hour, and she is just fantastic. She
Speaker 1: is with the Washington Times, she is the online opinion
Speaker 1: editor there, and she's a recurring guest on my shows,
Speaker 1: and I think Cunningham has her on from time to time.
Speaker 1: But Cheryl Chumley is just fantastic and I'll kick around
Speaker 1: any number of subjects with her. But that'll be one
Speaker 1: on the Epstein files. But Epstein died in prison in
Speaker 1: August of twenty nineteen while reading trial on charges of
Speaker 1: sexually abusing dozens of girls. As death was officially ruled
Speaker 1: a suicide, Trump administration has met with Epstein associate Julane Maxwell.
Speaker 1: I think that's how you say her name h I
Speaker 1: S l A I N E Jelene, and I apologize
Speaker 1: I'm mispronouncing her name ms.
Speaker 2: Maxwell.
Speaker 1: They met with her to get more infro on the
Speaker 1: case she's in the process of appealing or sex trafficking conviction,
Speaker 1: for which she is currently serving a twenty year Since
Speaker 1: so all these different investigations and and bon Gino's got
Speaker 1: his fingers in I don't know, probably a dozen or
Speaker 1: more different things, but one of the things that he's
Speaker 1: got his fingers in is the James Comey investigation. And
Speaker 1: there was new information that came out about that this week,
Speaker 1: and the Federalists put out a great piece on this,
Speaker 1: and they talk about, let me see, hold on, I've
Speaker 1: got the wrong one up here. Hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on. Here it is James con They talk about
Speaker 1: the evidence that's come out contradict his claims, Comy's claims
Speaker 1: that his indictment is purely political. And how many times
Speaker 1: have we heard about all these different individuals who are
Speaker 1: under indictment. Now, Eric Swalwell just got referred for a
Speaker 1: criminal investigation for some mortgage fraud. How many times have
Speaker 1: we heard, Oh, it's just political. This is just Trump
Speaker 1: lashing out at his political enemies. And the case I
Speaker 1: made about Comy in the past is that he was
Speaker 1: director of the FBI. So as director of the FBI,
Speaker 1: politics should not figure. He shouldn't be the political enemy
Speaker 1: of anyone. If he was doing what he was supposed
Speaker 1: to be doing, he was going to play it right
Speaker 1: down the middle. But that's not what he did. And
Speaker 1: so him for him to be on that list of
Speaker 1: one of Trump's political enemies, and I'm using my air
Speaker 1: quotes here, No, that's not the sort of position that
Speaker 1: this guy should be in. But the peace reads just
Speaker 1: over a month ago, Trump, he has attorney Lindsay Halligan
Speaker 1: obtained an indictment against former REPBI director James Comey in
Speaker 1: the Alexandria division of the Eastern District of Virginia. This
Speaker 1: area is far more Democrat than Republican, and the grand
Speaker 1: jurors who refused to indict Comy for perjury were not
Speaker 1: a rubber stamp. Comy faces charges of making false statements
Speaker 1: and obstruction of Congress. Comy has moved to dismiss the indictment,
Speaker 1: arguing that Halligan's appointment is unlawful. He also wants the
Speaker 1: indictment dismissed on grounds of vindictive prosecution. According to Comy,
Speaker 1: he's only facing charges because of President Trump's anti Comy animus,
Speaker 1: so Comy is trying to avail himself of this notion
Speaker 1: that the only reason, the only reason that he's in
Speaker 1: the jackpot that he's currently in is because Trump and
Speaker 1: his personal or political dislike of Comy. Comy's motion to dismiss, though,
Speaker 1: gave Halligan the opening to make public the overwhelming evidence
Speaker 1: of guilt against him. She did throw she did. She
Speaker 1: did so through her response, filing exhibits containing handwritten notes
Speaker 1: that Komy had written to himself and his friend, Professor
Speaker 1: Daniel Richmond of Columbia Law School, who was then a
Speaker 1: special government employee. Halligan also produced emails from Comy's Gmail
Speaker 1: account that used the alias Reinhold Kneebauer or Kneeber. What
Speaker 1: what is it with all these people in Washington who
Speaker 1: have all these online aliases? I mean, if you remember,
Speaker 1: during the the Joseph Robin at Biden administration, it was
Speaker 1: discovered that I get a guest during his time as
Speaker 1: vice president, he had dozens of aliases and dozens of
Speaker 1: different email accounts, not obviously to try and conceal the
Speaker 1: dealings with his son's businesses.
Speaker 2: But I digress.
Speaker 1: Most crucially, Comy's written statements make clear that he was
Speaker 1: collaborating with Richmond the leek stories to the New York
Speaker 1: Times reporter Michael Schmidt. The exhibits even reveal Richmond's pseudonym,
Speaker 1: Michael Garcia. So there's another another Washington, DC character that's
Speaker 1: got fake identities when they're using emails or online president.
Speaker 1: When the indictment came down, critics such as MSNBC legal
Speaker 1: anist analyst Joyce Vance scoffed at it. Halligan, these critics claimed,
Speaker 1: had no experience was in overhead career prosecutors had refused
Speaker 1: to pursue an indictment, and anti Trump forces within the
Speaker 1: Eastern District of Virginia began shamefully leaking to the media.
Speaker 1: This insubordination led to the justifile justifiable firing of several prosecutors. Halligan, however,
Speaker 1: has proved these critics wrong. She backed up the charges
Speaker 1: with evidence that far surpasses what is necessary to survive
Speaker 1: emotion to dismiss There is no guarantee what judge or
Speaker 1: what Biden, judge Michael Nachmanoff or leftist dominated for circuit
Speaker 1: will do, but constitutional Supreme Court majority walmust certainly not
Speaker 1: view favorably a partisan dismissal of an indictment when the
Speaker 1: evidence is this overwhelming. Let's see. Let me see if
Speaker 1: I'm where they get to the to the part of uh, well, well,
Speaker 1: the evidence is all these notes, emails, handwritten notes, and more.
Speaker 1: Let's see. Halligan's only part of an all star team
Speaker 1: including Attorney General Pam Bondi, Deputy Attorney General Todd blanche An,
Speaker 1: FBI director Cash Bettel, and Dan Bongino, working with Senate
Speaker 1: Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley, Pattel and Bongino, found the evidence
Speaker 1: that served as a basis for the indictment. The evidence
Speaker 1: was stuffed into FBI burn bags, it hidden storage rooms,
Speaker 1: and we would never had seen it if President Trump
Speaker 1: had not prevailed. In November of twenty twenty four to
Speaker 1: Fort Cromey's challenge of the lawfulness of Halligan's appointment, Bondi
Speaker 1: filed emotion, noting that the appointment of Halligan is as
Speaker 1: a special attorney, making the appointment consistent with the time
Speaker 1: of the indictment. Bondi also attested that she had ratified
Speaker 1: Halligan's actions related to the grand jury. This precaution should
Speaker 1: not be necessary, as Halligan's appointment was lawful. Bondi and
Speaker 1: Blanche are acting prudently, however, giving the radical inferior court
Speaker 1: judges who will decide these motions. So the case against
Speaker 1: Comy has gotten a lot stronger, and it's stronger in
Speaker 1: the court of public opinion now because of all this
Speaker 1: evidence that was released based on Comy making these motions
Speaker 1: to dismiss this case. So again, the level of corruption,
Speaker 1: the thoroughness of the corruption that began under the Obama administration,
Speaker 1: still carries on till now. And as someone who sat
Speaker 1: behind this microphone for years wondering when, if and when
Speaker 1: we would ever see anyone held accountable for any of
Speaker 1: these things that they've done well, it appears at that
Speaker 1: time of reckoning is hopefully getting closer, not just for Kmy,
Speaker 1: but for others, including Obama who oversaw operations to undermine
Speaker 1: President Trump when he took office, and Tauca Gabbard was
Speaker 1: the one who put that information out. Dalca Gabbard's in
Speaker 1: a criminal referral to the Department of Justice recommending the
Speaker 1: investigation of Barack Obama and Obama era officials over their
Speaker 1: handling of the twenty sixteen Russian election interference. In response,
Speaker 1: Attorney General Pambonni announced the creation of a strike force
Speaker 1: to assess the evidence and initiate a grand jury probe.
Speaker 1: So all this is going on, and to my way
Speaker 1: of thinking, this all ties in together when you have
Speaker 1: Dan Bongino come out and talk about how he is
Speaker 1: shocked to his core. And look, I'm just talking about
Speaker 1: the stuff that I can find online. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the stuff that I mean, this is open source material.
Speaker 1: This is all out there for any one of you
Speaker 1: listening to me right now can find all this stuff
Speaker 1: that I'm talking about online. It's all out there. So
Speaker 1: when you think about the sorts of things that Dan
Speaker 1: Bongino knows that he's not able to talk about yet,
Speaker 1: and he talks about how he's shocked to his core.
Speaker 1: It is absolutely amazing the times that we have been
Speaker 1: living in, and largely we really haven't even known that
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff has been going on. We
Speaker 1: had a pretty good idea that this kind of stuff
Speaker 1: was going on, but the depth and the breadth of
Speaker 1: all this corruption and I'm not even talking about the
Speaker 1: fraud that was going on and the money that was
Speaker 1: shelled out through these different various government programs. And so
Speaker 1: when you look at Trump and he's got i mean,
Speaker 1: all his cabinet members are working on various forms of this,
Speaker 1: almost every single one of them. And in the bigger picture,
Speaker 1: when you crack down on this fraud, when you crack
Speaker 1: down on all this money that is going out, when
Speaker 1: you crack down on the corruption, in the end, it's
Speaker 1: all about money. And when you talk about cutting into
Speaker 1: that money and having the flow of that money stop
Speaker 1: or making less of that money available, well then you
Speaker 1: start talking about cutting back on the power that these
Speaker 1: individuals have. And in Washington, d C. That's all that
Speaker 1: That is the coin of the realm, the coin of
Speaker 1: the realm is power, and so if you don't legitimately
Speaker 1: have elected power, well then you've got to have power
Speaker 1: through the dollars, through the money. How much money you
Speaker 1: can control, and that is what speaks, especially in DC,
Speaker 1: and that's why we have the corruption that we have.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to get that out of my system.
Speaker 1: So Cheryl Chumney's coming up at the at the bottom
Speaker 1: of the hour, and then after that, I've got another
Speaker 1: great guest from NewsBusters dot org. Tim Graham is going
Speaker 1: to be here and he's done a pretty lengthy report
Speaker 1: on PolitiFact, and PolitiFact is well, there are days of
Speaker 1: being a serious operator have pretty much come and gone.
Speaker 1: So we're going to kick all that around tonight your
Speaker 1: phone calls as well as roll on till midnight tonight
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Speaker 1: Seven hundred WLW Thursday Night edition of the Midweek Crisis.
Speaker 1: I'm Dan Carroll. Always very excited when I get a
Speaker 1: chance to talk to my next guest. Cheryl Chumley is
Speaker 1: the online opinion editor at The Washington Times. She's an author.
Speaker 1: She's got several books out early. This is entitled Lockdown,
Speaker 1: The Socialist Plan to take Away Your Freedom. And Cheryl Chumley,
Speaker 1: it is great to have you back at seven under WLW.
Speaker 7: How are you tonight, Dan, It's great to be with you.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks thanks for being here. The lockdown or not
Speaker 1: the lockdown, but the shutdown is over. And do you
Speaker 1: think the American people have a pretty good understanding now,
Speaker 1: or at least the ones who've been paying attention have
Speaker 1: a pretty good understanding that this really was about Obamacare,
Speaker 1: that the Democrats could not allow these these subsidies to expire,
Speaker 1: because once that goes away, then the true cost of
Speaker 1: Obamacare to the individual is exposed and the Democrats have
Speaker 1: to totally own that. Do you think most American people
Speaker 1: have a good understanding of that or are the Democrats
Speaker 1: going to get away with this again?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I think the Americans know what's going on. I think
Speaker 7: the Republicans scored a win on this one. And the
Speaker 7: reason I say that is because there were many on
Speaker 7: the mainstream left leaning side of media that had been
Speaker 7: questioning why Democrats weren't reopening the government the government, and
Speaker 7: so when that starts to happen, you know.
Speaker 4: It's pretty bad for Democrats.
Speaker 7: And in the end, the only thing they want by
Speaker 7: way of concession is all the fired government workers got
Speaker 7: their jobs back. But remember those workers weren't even fired
Speaker 7: until the government was shut down, so it wasn't even
Speaker 7: really a win for Democrats. So I think most Americans
Speaker 7: are aware of what happened. Of course, the media will
Speaker 7: spin it otherwise, and there is always that far leftist
Speaker 7: camp in the Democrat Party that don't they don't.
Speaker 4: Pay attention to anything. So the lost cause anyhow.
Speaker 1: So the shut the shutdown is over and they're going
Speaker 1: to kick this can down the road till the end
Speaker 1: of January. Do you look for any substantive changes to
Speaker 1: coming because it's been so long since the House has
Speaker 1: gone through what used to be the appropriations process, what
Speaker 1: we used to see on an annual basis, or you
Speaker 1: have the leaders of these different agencies going up there
Speaker 1: and trying to justify their existence, their expenditures, why they
Speaker 1: need more money. We used to talk about baseline budgeting
Speaker 1: all the time. When's the last time we talked about
Speaker 1: something like that? But do you think we have a
Speaker 1: chance at all to get back to any sense of
Speaker 1: order when it comes to the budget of this country.
Speaker 7: No, you know, to put it bluntly, not really. And
Speaker 7: you rease an excellent point, right, because if you read
Speaker 7: the Constitution, like I'm sure almost all of your listeners
Speaker 7: have at least at one point in their lives, it's
Speaker 7: evident that the appropriations belongs in the hands of the legislatures, right,
Speaker 7: and that that model has been just pushed out the
Speaker 7: window for so long. And even when it is the
Speaker 7: House that brings forth the appropriations bills, what happens is
Speaker 7: there's so much crap that's tacked onto it. Instead of
Speaker 7: having like a fifty page bill which would fund what
Speaker 7: an entire agency, you have a fifty thousand page bill
Speaker 7: because everybody sticks their little port projects on there, and
Speaker 7: then you know, without going through the entire thing, nobody
Speaker 7: reads it anymore.
Speaker 4: So it's just it's become a political.
Speaker 7: Tool and taxpayers are always left in the dust when
Speaker 7: it comes time to appropriations. The best we can do
Speaker 7: is have fiscally conservative Republicans in charge in both the
Speaker 7: House and Senate, and hopefully you know a president in the.
Speaker 4: White House as well who is Republicans, so.
Speaker 7: We can at least reel back some of these pork
Speaker 7: barrel projects.
Speaker 1: Well, I have a a SoundBite of Scott Jennings to
Speaker 1: breaking this down when when one of his recent appearances
Speaker 1: on CNN, and I was going to say he did
Speaker 1: a good job of breaking this down, but then I
Speaker 1: read the piece that you wrote about this, and I
Speaker 1: encourage everyone to go to the to the Washington Times
Speaker 1: and read the piece that he wrote called Mega for
Speaker 1: the Wind Democrats zero on Shutdown. So that that pretty
Speaker 1: much sums it up pretty well. The name of your
Speaker 1: book is is Lockdown the socialist plan to take away
Speaker 1: your freedom. And then you've got another piece or another
Speaker 1: subject that you talked about on your Bold and Blunt podcast,
Speaker 1: talked about talking about fighting sharia law in America, So
Speaker 1: when I look at Sharia Lawn, I look at, you know,
Speaker 1: the socialist plan to take away our freedom, I think
Speaker 1: there's also a an Islami's plan to take away our freedom.
Speaker 1: And it looks like these two forces are are teaming up.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that happened on purpose, but it
Speaker 1: seems to me that you know, these uh, these Islamist
Speaker 1: ideas to take away our freedom are warming their way
Speaker 1: in through the under the umbrella of socialism and under
Speaker 1: the auspices of the Democrat Party.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's all all roads there lead to the Democrat Party, right,
Speaker 7: if I mean, just look at what the Democrat Party
Speaker 7: stands for nowadays, and it's everything that your radical Islamists
Speaker 7: stand for. It's everything that socialists, Marxist communists stand for.
Speaker 7: And they're the ones in the in the offices in
Speaker 7: Congress taking tax dollars to push this anti American agenda
Speaker 7: on American citizens. And you hit, you hit correctly at
Speaker 7: the threat of Islam in America. And it's not just
Speaker 7: in America, it's around the world.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 7: The whole goal there is to just bring the a
Speaker 7: big government footprint down on but do it through the
Speaker 7: name of a religion which I think that's debatable to
Speaker 7: say whether Muslims actually practiced a religion or a religion
Speaker 7: mixed with government and politics, and some would even say
Speaker 7: cultish in nature. So I think America needs to awaken
Speaker 7: too some of these perils that are taking place in
Speaker 7: the Muslim world. Specifically, we can see it being played
Speaker 7: out in Texas right in Dearborn, Michigan. There are certain
Speaker 7: communities in America where you can see Sharia taking root
Speaker 7: and spreading already. And if we don't awaken to this peril,
Speaker 7: it's going to be in our backyards before we even.
Speaker 1: Know it well. And I think it's difficult to combat
Speaker 1: because we have been lectured to for so long and
Speaker 1: train for so long that we are not to question
Speaker 1: the motives of anyone who runs through office, or gets
Speaker 1: elected to office, or seeks to control or gain any
Speaker 1: kind of power under this, you know, under the religious
Speaker 1: banner of being an Islamist or being a Muslim, we're
Speaker 1: not supposed to question any of that. And if you do,
Speaker 1: then you're the one who's frowned upon.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, the only way to fight it is to
Speaker 7: question it, right, because that's how.
Speaker 4: It slipped in.
Speaker 7: It slipped in under guise of a First Amendment freedom
Speaker 7: right religious freedom. And because many Americans, they hesitate, They're
Speaker 7: reluctant to get involved with a fight against another religion,
Speaker 7: calling it out as not a religion, or calling.
Speaker 4: It out as a violent religion, something like that.
Speaker 7: That's how it's been able to gain a foothold in America.
Speaker 7: And look, any religion in America has to has to
Speaker 7: be under the umbrella of the Constitution. You can't be
Speaker 7: a religion that completely tosses the Constitution to the side.
Speaker 7: And that's exactly what Sureiah does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly seems that way with the with the
Speaker 1: the increasing desperation that we are seeing on the part
Speaker 1: of the left now. And I'm always trying to, at
Speaker 1: least in my own mind, stay ahead of the curve
Speaker 1: of the narrative whatever the next narrative is going to
Speaker 1: be that the left is going to try and put
Speaker 1: out there. And I'm asking you this because I saw
Speaker 1: a SoundBite from Rick Wilson, who was one of the
Speaker 1: founders of the Lincoln Project, and he was on whatever
Speaker 1: podcast or show he was on the other day, and
Speaker 1: here's what he said. He said, Joe Biden had a
Speaker 1: bad debate night and the world exploded. Donald Trump's physical
Speaker 1: and mental collapse is right in our faces every damn day.
Speaker 1: His sinility and his dementia is so obvious that he
Speaker 1: does not understand where he is or what he is doing.
Speaker 1: And he's a guy who is physically and mentally knocking
Speaker 1: on death door. So this is is this going to
Speaker 1: be the narrative as the left desperately cast about for
Speaker 1: something that's going to stick against Trump? But are they
Speaker 1: going to go full boar now on this notion that
Speaker 1: he's got he's, you know, facing a serious mental and
Speaker 1: physical decline.
Speaker 4: I don't even know what to say to that.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's knocking on death's door.
Speaker 10: That's come on, man, Okay, So you know what if
Speaker 10: that's if that's the narrative that Democrats think is going
Speaker 10: to carry them across.
Speaker 7: The line in the next uh, you know, the next election,
Speaker 7: have at it.
Speaker 4: Right, Because Donald Trump.
Speaker 7: Is everywhere and yeah, I mean there are certain days
Speaker 7: that he looks run down, but no wonder because the
Speaker 7: guy sweeps what three hours and then he says anything
Speaker 7: like that. Yeah, And he's everywhere, and he's not like
Speaker 7: Joe Biden.
Speaker 5: Everywhere where.
Speaker 7: He's carted out like a weekend at Bernie's. You know,
Speaker 7: dead body, drag drag to the stage, wind him up,
Speaker 7: watch him go, and get him off quickly, right, Not
Speaker 7: like that everywhere when Donald Trump is everywhere, He's actually
Speaker 7: doing things, and he's making speeches and he's standing strong
Speaker 7: for America, and you know, he's actually doing things that
Speaker 7: are actionable items that put America first. So yeah, if Democrats.
Speaker 4: Want to run with that, I don't know, it's a
Speaker 4: good laugh. I'm having a good laugh on it right now.
Speaker 5: So let them.
Speaker 1: So the so, some more of the Epstein documents have
Speaker 1: come out in the last forty eight hours, and this
Speaker 1: is not working out the way that the left of
Speaker 1: the media was hoping. And I mean the blatant hypocrisy,
Speaker 1: the blatant lies that they put out trying to associate
Speaker 1: this this young woman who unfortunately is dead now and
Speaker 1: what she said about Trump or what's he didn't say,
Speaker 1: and trying to connect this with another Epstein email, and
Speaker 1: they're you know, they're they're twisted themselves around like a
Speaker 1: pretzel to make it look like Trump has some involvement
Speaker 1: with with Epstein or was having sex with young girls,
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So this is just another slap in
Speaker 1: the face, and even the CNNs of the world, we're
Speaker 1: calling out some of those Democrats who are trying to
Speaker 1: spin this narrative and saying, look, this is this is
Speaker 1: testimony that this young lady talked about and we know
Speaker 1: her name, and this is nothing new here. But yet
Speaker 1: you're trying to hang this on Trump as though it
Speaker 1: makes him guilty of being a pedophile. So even you know,
Speaker 1: when when the Democrats lose CNN on an issue, I'm
Speaker 1: guessing that this is going to go away pretty quickly.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, she she testified. You know that Trump
Speaker 7: wasn't there. She wrote in her book that Trump did
Speaker 7: nothing wrong. And so now for Democrats to come out
Speaker 7: and allege and try and bring this, you know, the
Speaker 7: sordid affair, this sordid.
Speaker 4: Matter to light again for political reasons, it's disgusting.
Speaker 7: And here's the thing also that I don't like about
Speaker 7: it because all along I have had questions about the
Speaker 7: Jeffrey Epstein files.
Speaker 4: I don't think that those questions have ever been answered.
Speaker 7: Honestly, I'm a Trump fan, I'm a conservative Republican voter,
Speaker 7: but I still have questions and I don't like how
Speaker 7: Democrats are just now using these Epstein files to score
Speaker 7: political points because somewhere out there there are victims, right,
Speaker 7: and we don't know. If there are victims, then there
Speaker 7: have to be people who victimized these victims, and we
Speaker 7: don't know the names of all those people. I mean,
Speaker 7: that's just common sense. So I don't like this being
Speaker 7: used to ding Trump at this time. I find that
Speaker 7: the timing very coincidental. Democrats just came off a big loss, right,
Speaker 7: you know, pie on their face, egg on their face,
Speaker 7: whatever they're saying is on their face over the shutdown,
Speaker 7: and so now they're bringing up all of a sudden
Speaker 7: Epstein files in the news again. So it seems politically
Speaker 7: strategic on the Democrat's part. But at the same time,
Speaker 7: I don't like it being used for that reason because
Speaker 7: I still think there are valid questions out there that
Speaker 7: need to be answered about the Epstein file for the
Speaker 7: sake of victims.
Speaker 1: I agree, And it seems to me that if justice
Speaker 1: was really being served here, we would find out who
Speaker 1: the perpetrators are, they would be brought to justice. And
Speaker 1: it seems to me that a lot of this should
Speaker 1: have been in the rear view mirror already, and I
Speaker 1: think that's what I think, that's what most reasonable people
Speaker 1: on this issue want. Those who are guilty of engaging
Speaker 1: in these acts need to answer for that, and then
Speaker 1: let's move on. And I've said from the very beginning,
Speaker 1: I don't care who it is. Bring them out, put
Speaker 1: them on trial, and let then let's chips spat where
Speaker 1: they may and that should be the end of it.
Speaker 7: And you know, if it was Trump, right, we would
Speaker 7: have known about it a long time ago.
Speaker 1: Absolutely so.
Speaker 7: Just the fact that Trump is still in office and
Speaker 7: there's no evidence out there pointed to Trump, that just
Speaker 7: clears his name right, because Democrats would have used it
Speaker 7: a long time ago to keep him from ever running
Speaker 7: for and winning the White House. So you know, it's
Speaker 7: just let's get the other people's names out there who
Speaker 7: were guilty. That would put many of these question marks to.
Speaker 1: Rest, all right, Cheryl Tumley, As always, the time flies
Speaker 1: right by whenever you're here. I can't thank you enough
Speaker 1: for being here again. If people want to find out
Speaker 1: more about you and your books and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: where do they go? What do they do?
Speaker 7: You can go to my Amazon author page just under
Speaker 7: my name, and you can find me every day at
Speaker 7: the Washington Times where I write and do my podcast.
Speaker 1: All right, Cheryl Tumbling, thank you once again, and I
Speaker 1: hope we get a chance talking again before too long.
Speaker 11: Thanks Dan.
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, Cheryl Trumley from the Washington Times.
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Speaker 1: NBC News focuses on seven d WLW. It is ten
Speaker 1: o nine Thursday night edition of the Midweek Crisis. We
Speaker 1: rolled till midnight tonight. I'm Dan Carroll and glad to
Speaker 1: welcome in my next guest from NewsBusters. Tim Graham is
Speaker 1: the executive editor of NewsBusters and always great to have.
Speaker 1: I have Curtis halkon a lot, but tonight it's Tim
Speaker 1: Graham and Tim Graham. I'm sure Curtis is glad you're
Speaker 1: giving him a night off from being on my show.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think he's got a big trip up to Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't get much bigger than that, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: But but you recently put out a piece talking about PolitiFact,
Speaker 1: and before we get into that, exactly correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. But I have a sense that if someone
Speaker 1: like me, a radio radio talk showhurst were to say
Speaker 1: that you say openly that you know what, I saw
Speaker 1: something on PolitiFact and I'm going to use that for
Speaker 1: my argument, or I'm going to use that to make
Speaker 1: my point, that would be akin to saying that I
Speaker 1: get my information from Wikipedia. Is PolitiFact sort of go
Speaker 1: in that direction these days?
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean I think that they're both like liberal
Speaker 13: missing for me site. I mean, they think they're the opposite,
Speaker 13: you know, they think they're information is of the highest quality.
Speaker 13: But no, it's very tilted. It's very designed to make
Speaker 13: Republicans look terrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the research that you did talking about Politifactor,
Speaker 1: I mean, really shows that when it comes to saying
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump or Republicans are wrong, they give them
Speaker 1: a mostly false eighty four percent of the time, and
Speaker 1: the rare occasions when they do find Democrats wrong, they
Speaker 1: only find them wrong nineteen percent of the time, So
Speaker 1: there's only a minor a minor imbalance there.
Speaker 13: Yeah, not just in the percentages, but in the number
Speaker 13: of fact checks.
Speaker 2: So in the case this.
Speaker 13: Is the last five months, Republicans were checked sixty two
Speaker 13: times and the Democrats were checked one time, So that's
Speaker 13: about a three to one ratio. And then it's way
Speaker 13: more hostile. So what you have is the number of
Speaker 13: mostly false or worse fifty two.
Speaker 2: For the Republicans for for the Democrats.
Speaker 1: When you look at an organization like politiffect, who's their audience,
Speaker 1: Who are they doing these fact checks for?
Speaker 13: Well, you have to first say who are their donors.
Speaker 13: Obviously their donors are liberals. They came out of a newspaper,
Speaker 13: the Tampa Bay Times, which.
Speaker 2: Is a liberal newspaper.
Speaker 13: They're part of now the Pointer Institute of Media Studies, which.
Speaker 2: Is very much the liberal media.
Speaker 13: And that to me just shows you that many of
Speaker 13: these fact check organizations they belong to you know, CNN,
Speaker 13: the Washington Post, the AP, all liberal brands, but this
Speaker 13: one is pretty much the worst. It's pretty easy to
Speaker 13: count up all of their cute life little truth of
Speaker 13: meter ratings and say, wow, this is just surprisingly slanted.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think so. And when I look at
Speaker 1: the sort of things do they just I'm trying to
Speaker 1: imagine what their operation is. Like you mentioned you're in
Speaker 1: your piece that they have an actual newsroom. So do
Speaker 1: they just sit around and monitor everything that Trump says,
Speaker 1: everything that someone in his cabinet says, anything that comes
Speaker 1: from Mike Johnson or the Republican side of the aisle,
Speaker 1: and they just they immediately go to work on that
Speaker 1: to try and find any any slip up or any
Speaker 1: false narrative or anything wrong. Is that how they operate
Speaker 1: on a daily basis?
Speaker 13: I think it's certainly true of Trump, you know, I
Speaker 13: mean they do major news defense, press conferences, presidential debates,
Speaker 13: State of the Union. You know, those are pretty easy.
Speaker 13: They're going to do those. But yeah, with look the
Speaker 13: pants on Fire rating, which clearly screams liar, liar, pants
Speaker 13: on fire. Trump now has two and nineteen of those. Okay,
Speaker 13: the most recent Democratic president Biden Obama, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton,
Speaker 13: they're all under ten. So Kamala Harris has Kamala Harris
Speaker 13: has zero.
Speaker 2: Pants on fire, zero.
Speaker 1: Pants on fire for Kamala Harris, how about that? How
Speaker 1: about that? Well, let me ask you a question. I
Speaker 1: played not long ago the SoundBite from Kamala Harris when
Speaker 1: she was in South Korea, and you may remember this,
Speaker 1: and she spoke about the long and productive relationship that
Speaker 1: we've had with North Korea for many years. Did they
Speaker 1: fact check that at all? Did politifi They just let
Speaker 1: that one slide by.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 13: I mean the there's so many of these, you know,
Speaker 13: here's one of the easy ones. If Trump calls Kamala
Speaker 13: comedy at communists, that's false. Trump called Zrah and Mam
Speaker 13: Donnie a communist. That was considered false, even though Mom
Speaker 13: Donnie said one of his goals was to seize the
Speaker 13: means of production.
Speaker 2: Yes, but if you call Donald Trump a fascist, you
Speaker 2: get a free pass.
Speaker 13: They've never ever fact checked called Trump a Nazi, compared
Speaker 13: Trump to Stalin, pole pots, you name it, whatever.
Speaker 2: Mass murder you can pick, it's okay. That's that's accepted.
Speaker 13: They don't fact check these sorts of things. You call
Speaker 13: Ice the Gestapo, no checking.
Speaker 1: How about that?
Speaker 5: That?
Speaker 1: That is I almost said, that's unbelievable, But it's not
Speaker 1: unbelievable because that's pretty much how these things roll, and
Speaker 1: the times I really I don't. I don't concern myself
Speaker 1: with effect really very much at all. If if one
Speaker 1: of their truth ofmeters pops up in a piece I'm
Speaker 1: looking at and then you know, that's fine, I'll look
Speaker 1: at it. But at the times I have I have
Speaker 1: or I used to research the different things they were
Speaker 1: talking about, they would give a pants on fire or
Speaker 1: you know, give a you know, a totally false rating.
Speaker 1: If to Trump, if he said something as innocuous as
Speaker 1: you know, hey, we've you know, we we've done these
Speaker 1: initiatives in twenty five states, well it was actually twenty
Speaker 1: four states, so he's exactly you know, just you know,
Speaker 1: misspeaking or misquoting a number or you know, something that
Speaker 1: is totally immaterial to the substance of what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: They would see something like that, something very minor, and
Speaker 1: then and then blow that completely out of proportion.
Speaker 13: So he would say we had the lowest black unemployment
Speaker 13: in history.
Speaker 2: This is what he said in the first term.
Speaker 13: And they came back and said, we only started measuring
Speaker 13: black unemployment in nineteen seventy two fall, and so you know,
Speaker 13: this is again the things that Democrats can say all
Speaker 13: kinds of crazy crap, like Joe Biden is totally fine,
Speaker 13: He's the best Biden ever.
Speaker 2: Joe Scarborough, no fact check?
Speaker 1: How about that? That is absolutely amazing? And again, I mean,
Speaker 1: who's so when they put stuff like that up? Is
Speaker 1: it the anchors on CNN? Is the anchors on MSNBC?
Speaker 1: Are they relying on this stuff on a regular basis?
Speaker 1: Because I've watched I try to look at my fair share.
Speaker 1: Look I rely on I rely on NewsBusters a lot
Speaker 1: for what I do, but I do my own I
Speaker 1: do spend time during a regular week when I've I've
Speaker 1: got shows on the air of looking at CNN, looking
Speaker 1: at MSNBC, because I got to know what they're saying
Speaker 1: and know what they're talking about, and I don't see
Speaker 1: them from time to time. I guess I do them
Speaker 1: refer to poliff fact, but I just don't know how
Speaker 1: often they do it. I guess that's what I'm asking.
Speaker 13: Yeah, Well, PolitiFact has a professional alliance or whatever with PBS,
Speaker 13: which is kind of perfect, you know, liberals and liberals, but.
Speaker 1: So they're getting a slice of taxpayer but taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 13: Well, not any longer thanks to NewsBusters, et cetera. We yeah,
Speaker 13: thanks to Donald Trump. Yeah. Uh, as of the moment,
Speaker 13: they're defunded. We'll see when the Democrats get their claws
Speaker 13: into anything, they're going to try to put that money
Speaker 13: right back in.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Is uh? Is is that uh sort of cutting
Speaker 1: back on taxpayer dollars? Is that going to help contribute
Speaker 1: to the news deserts that we need to be concerned
Speaker 1: about with with with a going away of public television
Speaker 1: and national public radio.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 13: And Ken Burns just said this the other day. He said, well,
Speaker 13: that it's going to lead to news deserts in rural areas.
Speaker 2: And I raised my hand and say, excuse me, mister Burns.
Speaker 13: I grew up in a small town in Wisconsin. As
Speaker 13: a college kid, I went to city council meetings. I
Speaker 13: went to county board meetings in my county as a
Speaker 13: reporter for a private radio station, the NPR station thirty
Speaker 13: miles to the north and Lacrosse, Wisconsin. They never came
Speaker 13: to our town to do nothing. So, you know, news
Speaker 13: desert forget it. You know, these guys they always like
Speaker 13: to claim that PBS and NPR are fantastic at local news,
Speaker 13: and the truth is they're not. They're there to give
Speaker 13: you the national propaganda. You know, a lot of these stations,
Speaker 13: you'll go through their station programming list and it's twenty
Speaker 13: three hours of national. Sometimes they'll have like we have
Speaker 13: a fifteen minute local show, you know, but most of
Speaker 13: it is national propaganda radio on TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think of the NPR stations that we
Speaker 1: have around here, and there's there's multiple NPR stations, and
Speaker 1: when it comes to local news news, I mean, it
Speaker 1: really is nothing more than just a few headlines. There's
Speaker 1: there's really nothing in depth. There's really nothing that you
Speaker 1: would need to lean on NPR from that you couldn't
Speaker 1: get anywhere else other than the you know, the All
Speaker 1: Things Considered and stuff like that that come you know,
Speaker 1: I guess goes over there their network and that stuff
Speaker 1: goes all throughout the.
Speaker 2: Country and they have, Yeah, they have an enormous like
Speaker 2: a thousand radio stations.
Speaker 13: I mean, it's it's an enormous network spreading an enormous
Speaker 13: amount of propaganda. And it's just it is so comforting
Speaker 13: to know, at least for now, we are not paying
Speaker 13: to get ourselves kicked in the butt.
Speaker 1: And and look at the times I've been to their
Speaker 1: studios the times that I've been to the local public
Speaker 1: television stations here in Cincinnati. I mean their studio is,
Speaker 1: their equipment is style notch, their people are very well
Speaker 1: and they have a lot of people that were It's amazing.
Speaker 1: You know, I do this radio show and I do
Speaker 1: I do my own research, I do my own show
Speaker 1: prep everything that is on for the three hours that
Speaker 1: I'm on tonight nine to midnight. I've put all this together,
Speaker 1: all the sound bites, everything else. I've done all this myself.
Speaker 1: And then I listened to some a segment on NPR
Speaker 1: and they heven't forbid. They've got a producer, They've got
Speaker 1: an intern, They've got, you know, an audio consultant, they've
Speaker 1: got you know, they've got you know, fifteen or twenty
Speaker 1: people with their fingers in the pie just to get
Speaker 1: on a you know, one ten or fifteen minute segment.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely amazing.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I see my dad, as a local radio guy,
Speaker 13: was always suggesting the NPR station is going to have
Speaker 13: the best state of the art equipment.
Speaker 2: It always does, and.
Speaker 13: That's just you know, everywhere I've been that is certainly
Speaker 13: what I've seen. When I went to college, in Midgee, Minnesota.
Speaker 13: That was absolutely the case. Best state of the art
Speaker 13: equipment is in the public radio station. And that sounds weird.
Speaker 13: You would think they would be the poorest. No, they're
Speaker 13: the richest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's absolutely and it's it's amazing how
Speaker 1: uh how far our tax dollars go and and it
Speaker 1: and then uh, I've got I've got a buddy of
Speaker 1: mine that runs a h A media program at a
Speaker 1: local high school and they've gotten a lot of their equipment.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the you know, the local NPR station was
Speaker 1: getting rid of this really nice board and getting rid
Speaker 1: of this piece of equipment and they and they donated
Speaker 1: it to us. Isn't that amazing. It's amazing how that
Speaker 1: stuff works. So uh so, so Tim Graham, Uh, PolitiFact
Speaker 1: is out there. They are going to keep there. I
Speaker 1: guess there's really no chance that PolitiFact is going to
Speaker 1: go away anytime soon.
Speaker 13: No, and I don't think it's gonna change. You know,
Speaker 13: this is they do what they do, and if you're liberal,
Speaker 13: you love what they do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and uh the uh there's no shortage of
Speaker 1: I guess liberals that that are eating up their stuff.
Speaker 13: Well they now they got to pay for it themselves.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll see how long. Yeah, we'll see how long
Speaker 1: that that really that tends to change the equation a
Speaker 1: little bit, doesn't it when when you have to pay
Speaker 1: for things yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 13: For example, the w et in Washington was announced a
Speaker 13: day or two ago that their PBS Weekend News is
Speaker 13: being discontinued because they they're trying to pinch pennies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so zero zero false ratings for for Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: and then what about zero pants on fire, no pants
Speaker 1: on fires?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, the other day on a podcast, she said that
Speaker 1: she was playing three dimensional chess with uh with Donald
Speaker 1: Trump during the campaign.
Speaker 13: So well, the most recent one on the book tour,
Speaker 13: she goes everywhere and says, this is like the closest
Speaker 13: race of this century.
Speaker 2: And it's like, that's.
Speaker 1: That's the monstrably untrue. But they haven't. They haven't, they
Speaker 1: haven't in fact checked that one.
Speaker 2: No, And that's an obvious one.
Speaker 1: I guess it's because they have to put so many
Speaker 1: people on Trump because it just goes without saying that
Speaker 1: we that we know he's just elies about everything. I
Speaker 1: don't know, and and and to and to my way
Speaker 1: of thinking, Tim Graham, this all plays into I mean,
Speaker 1: I really think Trump arrangement syndrome is a real thing.
Speaker 1: And you know, I was listening to a woman yesterday
Speaker 1: who was talking about how she she used to do
Speaker 1: nothing but watched CNN and then she broke away from
Speaker 1: it and she came to the realization that she was
Speaker 1: being misled and being lied to on it on a
Speaker 1: daily basis. And and I think about that, and I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: I mean, do they even really care about the people
Speaker 1: that they're trying to serve.
Speaker 13: Well, I think they're trying to give them the message
Speaker 13: that they think the audience wants.
Speaker 2: And you know, again, I think you can.
Speaker 13: Say, you can say, well, Donald Trump loves to exaggerate.
Speaker 13: He's a salesman. He's going to overstate things. Okay, But
Speaker 13: again we can go back and say Joe Biden did that,
Speaker 13: Barack Obama did that. But they have this whole idea
Speaker 13: of no, no, no, we can't possibly suggest that these people
Speaker 13: are like each other and out of any way, So
Speaker 13: the derangement sort of works backwards, and that is nobody
Speaker 13: else lies. That's kind of the way they act.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Mary, thing you get from them as pure
Speaker 1: as the wind driven snow, Tim Graham, we got to
Speaker 1: run great having you on, my friend. I appreciate the
Speaker 1: time tonight, and it's all Curtis. I said, hello, and
Speaker 1: keep up the great work there at NewsBusters dot org.
Speaker 2: You bet, thanks man.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. Tim Graham from Newsbuster is
Speaker 1: always great having him on. We got to get to
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Speaker 1: on the Big One seven hundred ten forty one Dan
Speaker 1: carrold till midnight tonight on the Thursday night edition of
Speaker 1: The Midweek Crisis. If you are a woman, I want
Speaker 1: to talk to you right now, especially I've got a
Speaker 1: couple of things I want to run by you in
Speaker 1: and hopefully get your opinion on a couple of different things.
Speaker 1: So five one, three, seven, four nine seven the Big One,
Speaker 1: and the first one is this, Jasmin Crockett, Jasmin Crockett
Speaker 1: is out there. She's all over the place. It seems
Speaker 1: like you can't turn on the news without seeing a
Speaker 1: soundbye from her. Read something. She's the one interviews. I mean,
Speaker 1: she she just and and look, I mean she's from Texas,
Speaker 1: but she's all mean, she's everywhere, and so she's carved
Speaker 1: out a niche for herself where I guess she moves
Speaker 1: the meter whenever she's on TV or and she's at
Speaker 1: an event. And I got a SoundBite from her, and
Speaker 1: she was at an event. I believe it was an
Speaker 1: LGBTQ event. I don't know exactly what the event was,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter. And she was asked a question
Speaker 1: and I want you to listen to what she says here,
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to recognizing certain women. And I
Speaker 1: played the sound bite for my wife earlier today, and
Speaker 1: I know what she said about it, and I'd be
Speaker 1: interested to hear what other women think about this when
Speaker 1: you hear this come from Democrat representative from Texas, Jasmine Crockett.
Speaker 1: So with that, Joe, let's play cut number one and
Speaker 1: please okay.
Speaker 14: A lot of the MAGA women receive gender affirming care
Speaker 14: such as lip fillers, breast dougumentation, et cetera. Why do
Speaker 14: you think they are so against gender affirming care for
Speaker 14: trans people?
Speaker 2: You know, you want to say it.
Speaker 8: Okay, So I have this thing where, like, you know,
Speaker 8: a mega woman, when you see one, they all have
Speaker 8: a look, right, but they like they live to anyway,
Speaker 8: that's a whole other issue. But yeah, it's they don't
Speaker 8: even know because when that was brought up on the
Speaker 8: house floor, because there was a discussion about this on
Speaker 8: the house floor, they were like, how dare you say
Speaker 8: we use And it's like, no, that's exactly what y'all do.
Speaker 8: Y'all just didn't realize if that's what it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, So there you go. So there's Jasmine
Speaker 1: Crockett and the question, first of all, was asked by
Speaker 1: this dude that mega women, a lot of MAGA women
Speaker 1: receive gender affirming care such as lip fillers. Uh, and
Speaker 1: I guess breast augmentation, et cetera. Is that gender affirming care?
Speaker 1: I don't. I have no idea. Joe, do you know
Speaker 1: what a lip filler is used for?
Speaker 2: Do it?
Speaker 1: It's cosmetic? Yeah? But I have you had occasion to
Speaker 1: use lip filler?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: He hasn't neither of. And I don't know. Maybe that
Speaker 1: is a common thing, uh, but what kind of privilege
Speaker 1: is that to be able to sit there and talk about,
Speaker 1: I know a mega woman when I see one, and
Speaker 1: then she talks about how they all, you know, I
Speaker 1: guess look a certain way or do a certain thing.
Speaker 1: You good with that? I thought we lived in a
Speaker 1: society these days where those kind of generalizations weren't supposed
Speaker 1: to be made. That we you know, women weren't supposed
Speaker 1: to talk about things like that or talk about each
Speaker 1: other like that. So that's Jasmine Crockett. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: just uh. And I hate to do this because it's
Speaker 1: it's such an an easy card to play, But I mean,
Speaker 1: just to imagine if that was a congresswoman who was
Speaker 1: white talking about I don't know, and she she said
Speaker 1: mega women. So I guess, well, you know what's the
Speaker 1: opposite of a mega woman? A liberal? A liberal goal?
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what the exact
Speaker 1: opposite would be. You know, a Biden supporter, you know,
Speaker 1: an Obama eight Biden night, something like that, and say
Speaker 1: and say, I know what they look like, they all
Speaker 1: have this or they all have that. As a woman.
Speaker 1: Are you good with something like that?
Speaker 2: Are it?
Speaker 1: Are you know? Are we supposed to just let people
Speaker 1: get away with talking like that? I don't know. The
Speaker 1: other thing is this this woman, her name is Trishaymen,
Speaker 1: and she made news last week when she was at
Speaker 1: her health club and she walked into the women's locker
Speaker 1: room and there was a naked dude in there, and
Speaker 1: she knew it was a dude because she could see
Speaker 1: his junk. And it turned out this individual was identifying
Speaker 1: as a woman and therefore felt that he had agency
Speaker 1: to use the women's facilities. And she was the one
Speaker 1: because she brought it to the attention of the people
Speaker 1: running the facility that hey, look there's a man in
Speaker 1: the women's in the women's locker room. And she wasn't
Speaker 1: happy about it, about you know, these men invading women's spaces.
Speaker 1: So she's pretty much been a little bit of an
Speaker 1: internet sensation the last I don't know, five or six days,
Speaker 1: and she went to an event in California where there's
Speaker 1: a guy named He's a state senator. His name is Wiener.
Speaker 1: Scott Wiener, I believe is his first name, and he
Speaker 1: apparently is the person that is most likely to fill
Speaker 1: the shoes of Nancy Pelosi. As you know, she announced
Speaker 1: her retirement last week, and they're looking at this guy
Speaker 1: as the guy that may may very wind up very
Speaker 1: well wind up filling her shoes. So Trish Hyman went
Speaker 1: to an event where this guy was speaking, and she
Speaker 1: asked him some questions and the conversation this is sound
Speaker 1: bite a little bit long here, but I think it's
Speaker 1: pretty interesting when you hear the conversation because she's asking
Speaker 1: him very direct questions about what he is going to
Speaker 1: do to protect women. And this is how that conversation went.
Speaker 1: And Joe, if we could hear cut number, I believe
Speaker 1: this is cut number four.
Speaker 6: Please, senator, women that's the only black lesbian here, please
Speaker 6: ask you a question because I flew here.
Speaker 1: To do that. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 6: As a lesbian woman who was attacked in a woman's
Speaker 6: locker room at Golds Gym this week by a self
Speaker 6: identifying trends women with the documentary history of domestic violence,
Speaker 6: I'm deeply concerned about women's safety and female only spaces.
Speaker 6: What would you say to women who are seeking assurance
Speaker 6: that their safety will be protected from men who, by
Speaker 6: California law, can self idea as women and women only spaces, Sir,
Speaker 6: please tell me.
Speaker 15: Yeah, So we want, I mean, everyone to be safe.
Speaker 15: And we also know that you know, we have trains
Speaker 15: trans You're home both tan and women who are men
Speaker 15: and women. Uh and so uh you know we a
Speaker 15: So if you're a trans women or.
Speaker 6: Women senator, you've done great things with the bills you've passed,
Speaker 6: with the housing I've t I've read a lot of
Speaker 6: your bills, but and like you said, there are bills that.
Speaker 2: Need to be opened up.
Speaker 6: And I'm telling you now, millions of women across in
Speaker 6: America I'm being harassed and sexually assaulted in lack of room.
Speaker 6: I'm lesbian, black women. I'm not transphobic, I'm not homophobic,
Speaker 6: and I do respect a lot of the things you've done.
Speaker 6: But I do see a lot of these bills that
Speaker 6: you've passed that are dangerous for women and young children.
Speaker 6: And I understand that you're trying to be on.
Speaker 1: A level playing field.
Speaker 6: And I'm here to represent my community cause I hear
Speaker 6: a lot of things about my community and these bills,
Speaker 6: and I'm telling you, as a woman first and foremost,
Speaker 6: that this is dangerous and we.
Speaker 1: Need your help cause you're in.
Speaker 6: The office, You're gonna go into policity spot.
Speaker 2: I wanna support you.
Speaker 6: I have millions of people behind me watching this right now,
Speaker 6: and we wanna know. Are you going to protect women,
Speaker 6: not trans women?
Speaker 5: Women?
Speaker 1: Women? Trans women are doing it. Women women listen, we
Speaker 1: need to protect woman's safety. I was assault No, they
Speaker 1: are not.
Speaker 2: They are men.
Speaker 1: I was assaulted by men. He broke his wife's jaws.
Speaker 5: So brash.
Speaker 1: You need to reconstruct the sergeant. I'm a lesbian. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying assault because I'm black. So if there's another
Speaker 1: black woman in here I wants to tell me how
Speaker 1: they feel, please join it. But all of you are not.
Speaker 6: And I don't know who you are what you are,
Speaker 6: but I'm a lesbian and I'm telling you right now
Speaker 6: men are harassing women in the locker room question.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you since I want to.
Speaker 2: Woo woo, just let's now.
Speaker 3: I'm done.
Speaker 6: And by the way, I respect what you have to
Speaker 6: I just want to let you know that.
Speaker 15: I appreciate part of you. I'm so sorry that you
Speaker 15: were multiple times. I appreciate you talking about it. I
Speaker 15: think we need to have to say all women and
Speaker 15: and that obviously that's incredibly important. Also know that friends
Speaker 15: women are also realizing.
Speaker 6: We have we shnnot be raised in the bathrooms by
Speaker 6: men that want to say their women they're not women,
Speaker 6: they're not I'm leaving.
Speaker 1: It's okay, but I'm not going to take it.
Speaker 6: I am leaving because you know what, you guys are
Speaker 6: not protecting women. You're doing a lot the bills that
Speaker 6: you're passing for the law, I've read a lot of them.
Speaker 6: They're great, but this thing's with the trans it's not right.
Speaker 15: Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: You're all right. So there you go. There's Trish Hymen
Speaker 1: and on the way out, she she told everyone on
Speaker 1: my you know, I'm Trish Hymen, you can follow me
Speaker 1: on whatever. But they listen to the way that conversation went.
Speaker 1: You got people in the crowd there who started shouting
Speaker 1: her down with this notion that what did they say?
Speaker 1: Trans women are women? So and listen to the way
Speaker 1: this winger was trying to weasel around his answer, we
Speaker 1: want safety for everyone. I'm sorry, you got her asked.
Speaker 1: But he he's going, he's he is. There's no way
Speaker 1: that this guy is letting go of the notion that
Speaker 1: trans women are different than women there are there that
Speaker 1: men who say they are women are not meant Hey,
Speaker 1: it's it is just beyond ridiculous that this thing has
Speaker 1: gotten this far. So this is a guy who is
Speaker 1: and you heard and you heard her say that you're
Speaker 1: going to take I think she's she meant to say Pelosi,
Speaker 1: but she said Polinsky or something like that. But this
Speaker 1: is the guy out in California who is most likely
Speaker 1: to take the spot. I think he's on city council
Speaker 1: now in in San Francisco, or he's uh do they
Speaker 1: call him, they call him something else, but anyway, he's
Speaker 1: on city council out in San Francisco. And this guy
Speaker 1: has been behind all kinds of bills in the state
Speaker 1: Senate there. But I said he was on city count.
Speaker 1: He's in the he's a state he's a state senator
Speaker 1: there in California. But he's been behind all kinds of
Speaker 1: bills that you know. He wants to make California a
Speaker 1: sanctuary state for child sterilization. Wants to take custody of
Speaker 1: kids away from parents who don't go along with a
Speaker 1: gender affirming care. Wants courts to be able to remove
Speaker 1: custody of parents if they object to a medical transition
Speaker 1: for kids. He's got a bill that ends mandated reporting
Speaker 1: by healthcare providers to report victims from of abuse to
Speaker 1: police unless a gun was involved. So, as a domestic
Speaker 1: abuse victim, you can go into a medical facility and
Speaker 1: get the crap beaten out of you. And this guy says, well,
Speaker 1: we unless a gun was involved, we don't want to
Speaker 1: report that to police. He was behind a bill that
Speaker 1: allows convicted pedophiles to not register as sex offenders if
Speaker 1: the victim was over the age of fourteen or there
Speaker 1: was a ten year or less age difference between the
Speaker 1: victim and the perpetrator. Allows men to transfer into women's
Speaker 1: prisons if they self identify as a woman. No guardrails
Speaker 1: for transfers allow predators to game the system. And so
Speaker 1: you heard him right there. She's trying to say, I
Speaker 1: was assaulted in the locker room at the gym that
Speaker 1: I go to, and it's happening to other women here
Speaker 1: in California and across the country. What will you do
Speaker 1: to protect women? And all he can say is that
Speaker 1: trans women are women. And this guy is so wedded
Speaker 1: to the ideology that there's no way that he is
Speaker 1: going to to do anything, and there's no way he's
Speaker 1: going to do anything to lift a finger to help
Speaker 1: that woman or ensure that other women can be kept
Speaker 1: safe when they are literally at their most vulnerable. So,
Speaker 1: as a woman, I'm asking you, how do you feel
Speaker 1: about that? How do you feel about Jasmine Crockett saying
Speaker 1: that all Mega women look a certain way? And then
Speaker 1: you got this dude who's out there saying that trans
Speaker 1: men or trans women, or the dude who calls himself
Speaker 1: a woman has every right to be in that women's
Speaker 1: locker room or that women's restroom just like any other
Speaker 1: girl or any other woman. Myself, I find it absolutely disgusting.
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Speaker 1: Five one, three, seven, nine, seven thousand, eight hundred, The
Speaker 1: Big One. The numbers, the call mark has been on
Speaker 1: hold the longest time. We got Alice and Claremont County
Speaker 1: and Mark seven hundred WLW what's going on?
Speaker 5: Hi? Damn you know I I turned John Toy, I
Speaker 5: listened to you all the time.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 5: We'll miss you. Last night. I don't know how that
Speaker 5: happened because you weren't on. But anyway, Crockett, you know
Speaker 5: I remember a year ago. You're in half gone something
Speaker 5: years old. Memory does some sourcement. Well, but I remember
Speaker 5: her talking about police profiling.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: And isn't what she said profiling?
Speaker 1: I guess I guess you could. I guess you could
Speaker 1: say that when she talks about, you know, all mega women,
Speaker 1: they you know, they they have a look. Instead of
Speaker 1: me paraphrasing what she said, let's go back and listen
Speaker 1: once again to exactly what she said, because I don't
Speaker 1: want to I don't want to misquote the congresswoman joke.
Speaker 1: Please here cutting umber one again.
Speaker 14: A lot of the Mega women received gender affirming care,
Speaker 14: such as Liptiller's breast documentation, et cetera. Why do you
Speaker 14: think they are so against gender affirming care for trans people?
Speaker 1: You know you want to say it.
Speaker 8: So I have this thing where, like, you know, a
Speaker 8: mega woman when you what they all have a look.
Speaker 11: Right, but.
Speaker 8: They like they live to anyway. That's a whole other issue.
Speaker 8: But yeah, it's they don't even know. Because when that
Speaker 8: was brought up on the house floor, because there was
Speaker 8: a discussion about this on the house floor, they were like,
Speaker 8: how dare you say we use? And it's like, no,
Speaker 8: that's exactly what y'all do. Y'all just didn't realize that
Speaker 8: that's what it is.
Speaker 1: So there you go. So there Crocket in her own words,
Speaker 1: and she was at some LGBTQ event and there was
Speaker 1: some dude who was dressed like a woman who was
Speaker 1: about seven feet tall, standing next to her saying, you know,
Speaker 1: you want to say it, and then she's talking about
Speaker 1: their lips and I guess whatever, you know, they look
Speaker 1: a certain way. So I thought, uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: thought that sort of characterization of people was supposed to
Speaker 1: be frowned upon these days.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean it was profile like, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5: And you know where is she from?
Speaker 1: She is a congresswoman from Texas. Really yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what part of Texas, but I know she's.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure, I mean, who would who would vote
Speaker 5: for her? I don't know, she's brainless. I don't know, uh,
Speaker 5: but spends she spends more time on her makeup than
Speaker 5: she in her false syelashes than she does some issues.
Speaker 1: Well, I know she spends a lot of time on
Speaker 1: being interviewed on MSNBC and CNN and Morning Joe and
Speaker 1: and uh, you know she's generally talking a much of nonsense.
Speaker 1: Well apparently she can get away with Yeah, but what
Speaker 1: if it was a white congresswoman talking about uh, you know,
Speaker 1: any any other woman, especially her, and saying that, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know people like Jasmine Crockett, they all look a
Speaker 1: certain way that I don't think that would.
Speaker 5: They would be they would be crucifi Mark.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the phone call tonight. All right, Uh, now
Speaker 1: we've got Alice in Claremont County and Alice, how are
Speaker 1: you tonight?
Speaker 11: Very well, I hope you can say the same, right
Speaker 11: Jasline Crockett, real quick. She's a waste of a good education.
Speaker 11: She comes from uh, wealthy families, she said, private schools,
Speaker 11: et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 4: She's a racist.
Speaker 11: And you you picked up my thunder because of uh
Speaker 11: if a white woman said that someone had the look
Speaker 11: that that would be it be all over and she was,
Speaker 11: and what she was talking about is cosmetic and it's disfiguring.
Speaker 11: I just it's disgusting. She's not worth the time. She's
Speaker 11: she's she's a waste of a good education. I'd rather
Speaker 11: talk about miss Hymond.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, she's a superstar.
Speaker 11: Well you know what, thanks thanks bred to God that
Speaker 11: we we don't have Jasmine Crockett representing us. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Anyway, No, the other gal I played, I played her
Speaker 1: sound by Tis Hyman. She I mean, she is very fit.
Speaker 1: I would imagine that most men who identify as a
Speaker 1: woman encountering her in the locker room would not fare
Speaker 1: very well if it came if it came to any
Speaker 1: physical sort of contact or you know, any sort of
Speaker 1: aggressive behavior towards her, Because it looks like it looks
Speaker 1: like she could she could dispatch them with most of
Speaker 1: them with little, no trouble, little.
Speaker 11: Well, you know what, This whole training thing is disgusting.
Speaker 11: It's another disgusting subject. But you could hear the passion
Speaker 11: in her voice. And regardless, I haven't seen a picture
Speaker 11: of her, but you could hear the passion in her voice.
Speaker 11: And it took courage for her to come and stand
Speaker 11: up in front of that group and then they mocked her.
Speaker 11: They didn't even have the respect to give her a
Speaker 11: chance to express yourself. This guy, the whole this training
Speaker 11: thing is just giving another excuse for a PERV to
Speaker 11: go into a woman's only facility.
Speaker 4: And he's a perv.
Speaker 1: That's all it is, right, That's that's all it is.
Speaker 1: And we're we're but this guy sits there and says
Speaker 1: we want everyone to be safe and that trans women
Speaker 1: are women.
Speaker 11: Well you know who. You know what, even if they
Speaker 11: go through the surgery, their DNA will always be male.
Speaker 11: And think about that too, I know.
Speaker 1: Well, it's just and then you've got a guy who's
Speaker 1: there who's so tied into the ideology.
Speaker 11: That excuse me for up ject. He didn't even sound
Speaker 11: like he believed.
Speaker 4: What he was saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he believes it or not, but
Speaker 1: he certainly doesn't. You know, he wants he doesn't want
Speaker 1: pedophiles to suffer any consequences for their actions.
Speaker 11: And yet a woman can be humiliated. You know, she
Speaker 11: might be gay, but she's that that doesn't make her
Speaker 11: she is more of a woman than.
Speaker 2: The PERV is a man.
Speaker 1: Well, she's she's a one hundred percent one. She says,
Speaker 1: I'm a black lesbian. She's not claiming to be a man.
Speaker 1: She's a woman, and she doesn't want other Yes, she
Speaker 1: doesn't want dudes in there where women are supposed to.
Speaker 11: Be right and they're allowing these pervs to do what
Speaker 11: they want. I feel sorry for you know what, when
Speaker 11: I go out shopping, I make sure that you know
Speaker 11: before I leave, I'm not going to have to use
Speaker 11: any facilities because of what's being allowed to happen. And
Speaker 11: a woman should be allowed that privacy and a man
Speaker 11: should too. I haven't heard of any women going in
Speaker 11: into the men's room. But they did not even give her,
Speaker 11: offer her the respect to give her her opinion. They
Speaker 11: were mocking her. That's that's disgusting.
Speaker 1: What it was other people in the room who were
Speaker 1: mocking her, because the shouts came from from people who
Speaker 1: other people who were in the audience there. They're shouting
Speaker 1: that you know that trans women are women, and.
Speaker 11: It sounded like some of them were men. How would
Speaker 11: they like their wives their daughters?
Speaker 1: That's good, you know, that's a good question.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's one thing. Can I say something about Atab
Speaker 11: please do he couldn't he could not express himself unless
Speaker 11: he was politically correct, and I can't stand politically correct speak.
Speaker 11: It's another form of deception.
Speaker 1: That's a good point, Alice to me, always, I appreciate
Speaker 1: you picking up the phone. I know you're always out there.
Speaker 11: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: All Right, there's Alison. Another one who's always there is
Speaker 1: always Ken for Mason. Ken from Mason, what's up.
Speaker 5: That much?
Speaker 2: Dan? How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 1: All right? And living the dream?
Speaker 4: Brother?
Speaker 9: Another good show is Always. You know your listeners have
Speaker 9: to wake up. What's going on. It's like two competing
Speaker 9: mafia families are trying to take this country over. The
Speaker 9: Muslims are trying to take the country over, and the
Speaker 9: Democratic Party has become a mafia family in the last
Speaker 9: thirty five years Obama until Lory Clinton. I mean, they're
Speaker 9: flat out criminals. Komy Brennan Clapper of those they're hatchet men.
Speaker 9: These people are corrupt, They're nothing more than the mafia.
Speaker 9: And people need to understand that you go through a thing.
Speaker 9: These people are guilty as everything they've done. They don't
Speaker 9: tell the truth that they're solo Monskyites. They weaponize Lyne
Speaker 9: and the Muslims want to take the country over. And
Speaker 9: we've got a lot of mar in Minnesota. We got
Speaker 9: to lead to Rashieve in Michigan. You know, we got
Speaker 9: pre Sea up in northern Ohio trying they're all trying
Speaker 9: to tear this country apart AOC, you know. And when
Speaker 9: you listen to Mandami, he immediately exposed himself to night
Speaker 9: he won the election. You know, it started basically screaming,
Speaker 9: you know, and he was just talking about wanting to
Speaker 9: take on Trump and this people in this country are
Speaker 9: going to have to wake up. It's coming to a head.
Speaker 9: And I don't know how much longer we can go
Speaker 9: on with what's happening if they're doing it right in
Speaker 9: front of our face.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if you heard my guest I
Speaker 1: had on earlier tonight and Cheryl Chumley, and she's written
Speaker 1: a book about how socialists have a plan to take
Speaker 1: over the country, and she talked about how the socialist
Speaker 1: plan to take over the country is merging with the
Speaker 1: Islamis plan to take over the country. And then I
Speaker 1: see where the Council on American Islamic Relations CARE is
Speaker 1: celebrating the fact that forty two Muslim candidates backed by
Speaker 1: their network, have been elected to different offices across America.
Speaker 1: So you've got you know, you've got Mondami in New York,
Speaker 1: You've got offices in Virginia, in Michigan, New Jersey, Maryland, Washington, Ohio, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: North Carolina, mayors, state legislatures, to judges, dozens of city
Speaker 1: council members, county county commissioners, school board members. So there
Speaker 1: is a And look, it's not easy to talk about
Speaker 1: this because, as a Charyl and I talked about, we're
Speaker 1: all conditioned to not criticize someone because of their religious beliefs.
Speaker 1: But the religious aspect of this is morphing into a
Speaker 1: political aspect of this. And you all the literature is
Speaker 1: out there and and the whole ideology is out there
Speaker 1: about how to take over a country. And so some
Speaker 1: people may think I'm, you know, I'm a little nutty
Speaker 1: for talking about this sort of thing, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I see all I see all these things happening around,
Speaker 1: and it just seems like in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: the openness and the willingness to being accepting of others
Speaker 1: is getting to the point where it's going to come
Speaker 1: back and and and bite us in a bad way.
Speaker 9: Well, you know, Dan, you know for three years, I've
Speaker 9: been talking to you about this, you know, and I'm
Speaker 9: being very very serious. We have to start looking into
Speaker 9: the potentiality of deporting these people, you know, just getting
Speaker 9: rid of of the country. We talked last night or
Speaker 9: two nights ago about the assimilation. You know, when you
Speaker 9: come into America, you assimilate into American culture. You talk
Speaker 9: about your love for America. You're not talking about your
Speaker 9: love for Palestine or anyone else. You know what Arab
Speaker 9: country they want to be from, you know, and we
Speaker 9: need to take this dead serious.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 9: They're talking about power. That's what this is about, pure
Speaker 9: and simple. They want complete and absolute power.
Speaker 1: Well, there are certain parts of the country where it
Speaker 1: is getting out of control. I was, I had a
Speaker 1: story here about the alarming number of individuals who've been
Speaker 1: arrested that have connections to Somalia. And I want to say,
Speaker 1: it's Minnesota. I'm seeing. I'm scrolling through my thing right
Speaker 1: now to see if I.
Speaker 9: Can Saul Minnesota, if I can, if I.
Speaker 1: Can find it. But it I mean, it's it's just,
Speaker 1: you know, the the amount of people that are defrauding
Speaker 1: different government programs that are lying about their their backgrounds
Speaker 1: and lying about the circumstances by which they come into
Speaker 1: this country. And it's it's it's to my way of thinking,
Speaker 1: it is alarming.
Speaker 9: Well, you know you're listening to in Somalia, they were
Speaker 9: taking over ships for twenty years, where they finally put
Speaker 9: a kind of halt to that. I mean, the Somalians
Speaker 9: are absolutely corrupt people. They're liars and their thiefs. They're
Speaker 9: con artists.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 9: Alana mar is one of the biggest con artists in
Speaker 9: the country. She came into the United States married to
Speaker 9: her brother so she could get into this country. The
Speaker 9: three elections she's won, ninety percent of the vote for
Speaker 9: her is illegal aliens. She if you remember, way back
Speaker 9: about fifteen years ago, ships at Norm Coleman by four
Speaker 9: votes with all illegal Samanians voting. There's over three hundred
Speaker 9: thousand Samarians out in Saint Paul, Minnesota, and then Dearborn, Michigan.
Speaker 9: Talita Rashid has about three hundred thousand Palestinians up there.
Speaker 9: You know, in these women, I have never heard a
Speaker 9: lot of mar say anything nice about America. I've never
Speaker 9: heard Talita Rashid one time ever say anything in support
Speaker 9: of America. All right, I had oppressed that I've never
Speaker 9: heard her once say something in supportive of America or
Speaker 9: AOC the same thing. People need to wake up. These
Speaker 9: people don't love America. They're not Americans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is that I found the piece. I found
Speaker 1: the piece that was in the New York Times and
Speaker 1: the New York Times, not the New York Times with
Speaker 1: the New York Post, I should say it is reporting
Speaker 1: that nearly half of all immigrants in the Minneapolis Saint
Speaker 1: Paul Twin Cities were found to have committed some form
Speaker 1: of immigration fraud. During a recent sweep with the Department
Speaker 1: of Homeland Security, officers encountered blatant marriage fraud, visa overstay
Speaker 1: people claiming the work at businesses that cannot be found,
Speaker 1: forged documents, abuse of the H one B visa system,
Speaker 1: abuse of the F one visa, and many other discrepancies.
Speaker 1: US Citizenship and Immigration Services Director Joseph B. Edlow told
Speaker 1: this to reporters during a news conference. They didn't point
Speaker 1: to a specific group, but Twin Cities has seen a
Speaker 1: massive uptick in Somali refugees and immigrants in recent years.
Speaker 1: More than eighty two thousand are living in Minnesota right now,
Speaker 1: and they're finding that nearly half of them have some
Speaker 1: sort of immigration fraud attached to their status in this country.
Speaker 1: Is that something we should be alarmed about? Is that
Speaker 1: something we should bother to spend time looking at? I
Speaker 1: think so.
Speaker 9: I agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 11: Dan.
Speaker 9: I mean, people in America have to wake up up.
Speaker 9: It's we've got to wake up. Donald Trump is trying,
Speaker 9: to the best of his ability, you know, to expose
Speaker 9: exactly what's going on. The reason they've been after him
Speaker 9: ever since twenty fifteen when he came down the elevator
Speaker 9: with Milania, because they knew he was the one guy
Speaker 9: that could blow.
Speaker 2: Up their plans.
Speaker 1: All right, Ken, I just I just looked at the clock.
Speaker 1: I'm way late for a break, but as always been,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you listen. I appreciate you picking up the phone.
Speaker 9: All right, Dan, good show.
Speaker 1: All right, Ken from Mason, thank you very much. Ten
Speaker 1: eleven twenty six, Mike from Cincinnati is on the line.
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Speaker 1: big one if you want to get on board. Between
Speaker 1: now and midnight, John Fennerman is out there dropping some
Speaker 1: toruth bombs. He was on CNN with Dana Bash and
Speaker 1: he's got a book out there right now, so he's
Speaker 1: doing the book to row.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 1: We had a fall during the day, had some minor injuries.
Speaker 1: They said, out of an abundance of caution, they took
Speaker 1: him to the hospital. So this was before he had
Speaker 1: the fall. But John Feenderman was talking to Dana Bash.
Speaker 1: And listen to what he says about the kind of
Speaker 1: treatment that he's been getting for the things he's been saying,
Speaker 1: and listen to where the heat comes from. Let's hear
Speaker 1: cut number two.
Speaker 16: You said quote, I drunk deeply of the venom of
Speaker 16: both the left and the right. As a connoisseur, I
Speaker 16: can confirm that the most poisonous, the bitterest is from
Speaker 16: the far left. That is pretty remarkable to hear you
Speaker 16: say that as an elected Democrat.
Speaker 2: Why yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, it's just been my personal experience on this thing.
Speaker 3: And when I asked my digital team, I said you know,
Speaker 3: you're were on all the platforms, you know, really, what's
Speaker 3: what's kind of the harshest, what's kind of the most personal?
Speaker 3: And the answer was immediately said, oh.
Speaker 2: Blue sky. It's blue sky.
Speaker 3: And the difference is, I mean the right would say
Speaker 3: really rough things and names, you know, some names I
Speaker 3: won't I won't repeat on TV. But but but the
Speaker 3: the on the left, it was like they want me
Speaker 3: to die, or that we're cheering for your next stroke,
Speaker 3: or that's terrible that depression wants why couldn't it depression one?
Speaker 3: And and I hope your kids find you, uh, I
Speaker 3: mean they.
Speaker 2: Even have like the graphic.
Speaker 3: A gift they have like a stroke you know, you
Speaker 3: know in your head, you know, sharing that. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: and they said that I remember one they claimed the
Speaker 3: doctor let us down, and why did they have to
Speaker 3: save his life? I mean just really like I just
Speaker 3: can't imagine people are are wishing, you know, I wish
Speaker 3: he dies or I want him to die, you know,
Speaker 3: literally cheering for for a stroke. And I don't know
Speaker 3: what the kind of a place where that comes from.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's much different than just calling me
Speaker 3: a name, you know, And that's that's really been consistent,
Speaker 3: you know, in that community online.
Speaker 1: But there you go. There's John Fetterman talking about where
Speaker 1: the hate comes from comes from the left, talking about
Speaker 1: how he is getting messages We're cheering for your next stroke.
Speaker 1: Why couldn't the depression have won? We hope your kids
Speaker 1: find you. Really, that's from the left. This guy's a Democrat.
Speaker 1: Even though he is saying some sensible things, he is
Speaker 1: still a hardcore left Democrat. But he is the rare
Speaker 1: occasion of a Democrat who's able to look at reality,
Speaker 1: who's able to deal with reality and call out a
Speaker 1: knucklehead when he when he sees a knucklehead, And for
Speaker 1: that he's getting all that kind of hate coming from
Speaker 1: the left. Mike in Cincinnati, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 5: What's that?
Speaker 9: Man?
Speaker 1: You tell me?
Speaker 17: Uh No, you know, I was thinking about this while
Speaker 17: I was on holding, and I probably could have done
Speaker 17: some research on myself and looked it up, but I figure,
Speaker 17: you know that I'm mari on here, might as well
Speaker 17: talk to you about it. You know, what, where's the father?
Speaker 5: Where?
Speaker 17: I mean, where where does this put the father? When
Speaker 17: his daughter walks into the bathroom and sees a man
Speaker 17: standing there peeing in the toilet and she freaks out
Speaker 17: and he wants to run in and save her. I mean,
Speaker 17: is that going to be an assault or is that
Speaker 17: going to be you know, because you know he's not
Speaker 17: supposed to be there. You know, that's you don't know
Speaker 17: if he's trying to hurt or do something to your daughter.
Speaker 17: So I mean, I mean, where does that put the dad?
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think I think there's a
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of dads who are going
Speaker 1: to be especially vigilant of this sort of thing taking place.
Speaker 17: Right are they Are they going to get are they
Speaker 17: going to get legal action against them for doing it?
Speaker 17: You know question, he's a woman, He's supposed to be
Speaker 17: in there, Like, no, he's not. He's not supposed to
Speaker 17: be in there. He just scared the hell out of
Speaker 17: my daughter. If she knows he's not supposed to be
Speaker 17: in there, she's she's a kid.
Speaker 1: Look, I've read I've read far too many stories about
Speaker 1: this where you know, a mom or a couple of
Speaker 1: sisters walk into a health club or a y or
Speaker 1: any place like that where there's a women's changing room
Speaker 1: or a locker room or a shower room, and there's
Speaker 1: some naked dude and just hanging out in there. I mean,
Speaker 1: how creepy is that. I certainly, I certainly wouldn't want
Speaker 1: my wife, I wouldn't want my daughter to to experience
Speaker 1: something like that, and I and I certainly would would
Speaker 1: want to protect that food from some creep like the
Speaker 1: sense thing.
Speaker 17: You know, if I send my daughter into a restaurant,
Speaker 17: she's supposed to be in there in a safe, terrified
Speaker 17: and there's a man in there that was like that,
Speaker 17: that's that's almost like you know, there's somebody in there
Speaker 17: to hurt her.
Speaker 1: So I mean, like if we lived, if we lived
Speaker 1: in a sane world these days, people know exactly what
Speaker 1: we're talking about. People who are who can be rational,
Speaker 1: people who can think no know exactly what we're saying.
Speaker 1: And the notion that that we've come this far, that
Speaker 1: we are talking about real world examples of these, uh,
Speaker 1: these kind of things happening, it's it's just it it's
Speaker 1: beyond my my comprehension that we've let this get.
Speaker 17: This far that exactly that.
Speaker 1: We have to and that we have to adjust for
Speaker 1: the sake and for and really it's not for the
Speaker 1: sake of of of anything that that's legal or right.
Speaker 1: It's a stay for the sake of hurting someone's feelings
Speaker 1: to say, look, okay, fine, you want to pretend you're
Speaker 1: a woman, that's fine, But we do this is where
Speaker 1: we draw the line.
Speaker 17: And about the little kid that just got traumatized for.
Speaker 1: The rest of our life as a society. Why can't
Speaker 1: we say that, Why can't we say, look, we're all
Speaker 1: adults here, we're not buying. You know, fine, if you
Speaker 1: want to pretend you're a woman, you're not going to
Speaker 1: hurt anyone else, You're not going to touch anything. And
Speaker 1: then then you put all day long you pretend you're
Speaker 1: a woman, but you know, and there are certain areas
Speaker 1: where this stuff doesn't fly, and and and the idea
Speaker 1: that we have to pretend as if we have to,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, go along with all this just because
Speaker 1: your feelings might get hurt. It is one of the
Speaker 1: stupidest things I can think of.
Speaker 17: Well, do you know what how many feelings they're hurting?
Speaker 17: Just making people deal with that, you know that that's
Speaker 17: hurtain how many days and mom's feelings that you know
Speaker 17: are not able to uh take care of their kid
Speaker 17: because you know there's there's mental out in the bedroom.
Speaker 17: So I mean, you know that's damaging to.
Speaker 1: A parent, and and and it starts starts at a
Speaker 1: young Yeah, it starts in the schools with these teachers
Speaker 1: who want to indoctrinate the kids into this way of thinking.
Speaker 1: And and Mike, I appreciate the phone call and that
Speaker 1: that sort of leads me into the next thing that
Speaker 1: I that I wanted to talk about real quick. And
Speaker 1: this was the National Academy of Family Physicians. They they
Speaker 1: are I guess they had their annual conference last month
Speaker 1: and they are now seeking to bolster support for pediatric
Speaker 1: gender care. The aa f P Family Medicine Experience a private,
Speaker 1: annual conference where clinical expertise, practical strategies, and real connections
Speaker 1: come together to lead what is next in primary care.
Speaker 1: The conference is not open to the press. One session,
Speaker 1: titled Gender Affirming Puberty, Suppression, Initiation and Management, focus specifically
Speaker 1: on promoting gender ideology to children and underscored the importance
Speaker 1: of parents embracing gender affirming care. So so much progress
Speaker 1: has been made in fighting this butchery of children, but
Speaker 1: there are still these professional organizations I guess for lack
Speaker 1: of a better term, that still want to engage in
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. Meanwhile, US Catholic bishops are banning
Speaker 1: or banning gender affirming care at Catholic hospitals and health centers.
Speaker 1: They had their conference and Catholic Bishops voted Wednesday to
Speaker 1: ban affirming care from Catholic hospitals in the United States,
Speaker 1: formalizing the church's opposition to hormonal and surgical procedures intended
Speaker 1: to change in individual's outward appearance to resemble that of
Speaker 1: the opposite sex. What took them so long? So at least,
Speaker 1: at least we have this amount of right thinking individuals
Speaker 1: who are standing up against this sort of nonsense. Let's see,
Speaker 1: Marco Rubio is out there doing some great things. The
Speaker 1: United States has been striking these drug boats in international waters.
Speaker 1: The French Foreign Minister told reporters that he believes the
Speaker 1: attacks against alleged drug smuggling boats and the Caribbean and
Speaker 1: Eastern Pacific are in violation of international law. And so
Speaker 1: Marco Rubio was at an event, I believe he was
Speaker 1: in Canada and he was out there about asked this
Speaker 1: and here's his response. Listen to Marco Rubio, our Secretary
Speaker 1: of State cut number seven.
Speaker 18: I don't think that the European Union gets the determined
Speaker 18: with international laws, they certainly don't get to determine. Is
Speaker 18: how the United States defense its national security. The United
Speaker 18: States is under attack from organized criminal narco terrorists in
Speaker 18: our hemisphere, and the President is responding in the defense
Speaker 18: of our country. I do find it interesting that all
Speaker 18: these countries want us to send, you know, and supply,
Speaker 18: for example, nuclear capable Tomahawk missiles to defend Europe. But
Speaker 18: when the United States positions aircraft carriers in our hemisphere
Speaker 18: where we live, somehow that's a problem. So I would
Speaker 18: say that the United States is and this President's made
Speaker 18: very clear his job is to protect the United States
Speaker 18: from threats against the United States, and that is what
Speaker 18: he's doing in this operation.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's what.
Speaker 1: He boils that down and makes that pretty easy to understand.
Speaker 1: We're in our hemisphere, we're operating in our hemisphere. We
Speaker 1: are looking out for the interests of what the United States.
Speaker 1: And if you've got narco terrorists that we've declared terrorists
Speaker 1: organizations and they're trying to bring drugs into our country,
Speaker 1: guess what we're gonna do. We're gonna take them out.
Speaker 1: No apologies for that. That is how you get that
Speaker 1: job done. What else do we have. Let's let's hear
Speaker 1: cut number. Hold on a second, let's hear cut number.
Speaker 1: I want to get Caroline Levit in here. That is
Speaker 1: cut number five. And she was talking about the documents
Speaker 1: that came out on the Epstein stuff today. And here's
Speaker 1: what she said to reporters, cut number five.
Speaker 16: Did the president ever spend hours at Jeffrey Epstein's house
Speaker 16: with a victims?
Speaker 19: These emails prove absolutely nothing other than the fact that
Speaker 19: President Trump did nothing wrong. And what President Trump has
Speaker 19: always said is that he was from Palm Beach and
Speaker 19: so was Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein was a member at
Speaker 19: Mar A Lago until President Trump kicked him out because
Speaker 19: Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophile and was a creep. In
Speaker 19: this email, you refer to with the name of a
Speaker 19: victim that was unredacted now and has since been reported
Speaker 19: on in this room. So I will go ahead and
Speaker 19: say it, Virginia Guphrey. And it was CBS's own reporting
Speaker 19: WIJA that recently wrote that Missus Guphrey maintained and God
Speaker 19: rest her soul, that she maintained that there was nothing inappropriate.
Speaker 19: She ever witnessed that President Trunk was always extremely professional
Speaker 19: and friendly to her. And so I think it's a
Speaker 19: question worth asking the Democrat Party, and you should all
Speaker 19: go ask them after this briefing of why they chose
Speaker 19: to redact that name of a victim who has already
Speaker 19: publicly made statements about her relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and
Speaker 19: is unfortunately no longer with us.
Speaker 1: So Marco Rubio is great, Caroline Levitt is fantastic. You
Speaker 1: want to sit here and ask questions like that. Why
Speaker 1: don't you go ask the Democrat Party why they're lying
Speaker 1: about it? Why they want to they have to spend
Speaker 1: a false senative, not just about this, but just about
Speaker 1: everything else. And I was talking to Cheryl Tumley earlier today,
Speaker 1: and you know, we got this dude from the Lincoln Foundation,
Speaker 1: Anti Big anti Trump organization talking about how Trump has
Speaker 1: one foot in the grave, how we're seeing his mental
Speaker 1: and physical decline right in front of our eyes. You think,
Speaker 1: so complete nonsense, But yet they want to act as
Speaker 1: if there's there's some validity to that nonsense. Seventeen thousand
Speaker 1: commercial driver's licenses revoked for illegal aliens in California seventeen thousand,
Speaker 1: and they're out there right now, calls on all kinds
Speaker 1: of murder and mayhem on the on the roads. So
Speaker 1: at least at least some things are happening, and the
Speaker 1: Trump administrations do want a job. Time for me to go.
Speaker 1: I'm out of here. I will see you next week
Speaker 1: and until then, have a great weekend. Joe Waddell, thank
Speaker 1: you for everything tonight. We didn't get to all the audio,
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