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Speaker 1: Here's Mike Benton.

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Speaker 2: Quick turn around here for Cracking this morning. Mike Benton

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Speaker 2: with you as we lay out the Kracking and New

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Speaker 2: Jersey Devils in Mattine Noon Pacific Star Time from Climbate

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Speaker 2: getting after it right before the NFC title game happens

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Speaker 2: sure to be a busy and for what many are hoping.

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Speaker 2: A U four exports Sunday all across the Emerald City.

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Speaker 2: Special pregame coverage opening up. Take note eleven am Pacific

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Speaker 2: Pacific time puck drop Everett Now in the booth, I'll

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Speaker 2: and section twenty we will hear from Crack and four

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Speaker 2: Jared McCann plus also Catshowup with Crack and TV play

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Speaker 2: by play voice John Forestland how reaction from Friday fuels

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Speaker 2: the Kraken effort on Sunday. More on Berkeley Catton, more

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Speaker 2: on Jacob Alanson, and more on Matty Beanier's will play

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Speaker 2: in his three hundredth career NHL game in as of

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Speaker 2: this pace right now, getting closer and closer to matching

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Speaker 2: his career high set back when he won the Calder

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Speaker 2: Trophy in twenty twenty two twenty three as the league's

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Speaker 2: top rookie. John Forestland joining us in just a bit well,

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Speaker 2: plenty of frustration for the Kraken as they exited Friday

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Speaker 2: with a four to two loss over the Anaheim Ducks.

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Speaker 2: Jared McCann, they'll help Hi get the Kraken on the

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Speaker 2: board back in period two and three. From shuffling here

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Speaker 2: as well. After practice on Saturday, McCann spoke more on

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Speaker 2: with the Kraken wants to clean up ending into Sunday's

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Speaker 3: Our starts. You know, we've we've talked about the last

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Speaker 3: And it's, uh, you know, it's kind of getting it's

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Speaker 4: To that point, I mean, how we the first goal

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Speaker 3: Yeah, teams are still good now that like when you

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Speaker 2: It like we're we're you.

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Speaker 3: Know, we're trying to make plays. We're trying to make

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Speaker 4: Does the idea that tomorrow with it being early starting

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Speaker 3: Who who are you know, our great offense? We just

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Speaker 5: So as you turn the page here from last night

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Speaker 1: For Assebo, yeah, I think it's good.

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Speaker 3: You know, we we went out there and worked tired,

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Speaker 5: Some view leadership as far as effectiveness in the spoken

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Speaker 5: I know the line have been shot from here for

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Speaker 4: To that point, it seems like the points have been

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go, twelve pm face off. It's

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Speaker 2: good time cracking New Jersey. Devil's coming up here for Sunday.

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Speaker 2: And guess who joins the party once again, our friend

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Speaker 2: John foresln TV play by a play voice on the

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Speaker 2: T as well. Johnny, Hello, happy Sunday, Good morning to you,

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Speaker 2: I should say before the opening face off, and I

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Speaker 6: I don't know if we're going to play at twelve

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Speaker 6: I guess eleven's okay?

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Speaker 6: For ten am, eleven this morning. Eleven this morning might

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Speaker 6: I just look at it selfishly, and any odd start

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Speaker 6: And so when you're going at twelve and it's supposed

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Speaker 2: Too Really that same here, we're just trying to get

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Speaker 2: But we'll get to that later on. I got a

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Speaker 6: Well, I was as disappointed, I think as anybody. I

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Speaker 6: New Jersey's playing well. So we'll see what goes down

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Speaker 6: from the very beginning of the game, you know, and

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Speaker 6: we'll see. And that means you know, need the first goal,

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Speaker 6: sure you do, but you also just need to play

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Speaker 6: So those are the things that he's going through right now.

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Speaker 6: Only he knows if any of this talk, which he

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Speaker 6: That's disappointing for me to see and often go through.

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Speaker 6: But those are things that are going to help him

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Speaker 2: Matty Beniers here, another big piece of this and at

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Speaker 2: Here for today, I mean, where have you seen his

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Speaker 6: I think he's shown a lot of leadership this year.

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Speaker 6: It's a really good step. You know, is he is

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Speaker 6: He's only going to get better as he moves along

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't help but even notice in the game

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Speaker 6: And then they went past the benchmark and now he's here.

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Speaker 6: And then there was the World Junior conversation. Some people

433
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Speaker 6: said he probably should have gone played in that tournament.

434
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Speaker 6: I think it was a good idea to keep him around.

435
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 6: They needed to keep him around. The Krack and need

436
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Speaker 6: a player like this because they're not offensively gifted as

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Speaker 6: a team, and he has that. So I'm looking forward

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Speaker 6: to see what he does now in the games that remained,

439
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 6: because there's steady improvement. So that's that's good, and he's

440
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Speaker 6: looking more and more comfortable. I know he's well liked.

441
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Speaker 6: I know the veteran guys love him. They should. He's

442
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Speaker 6: a great kid. So this is a beacon of light

443
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,199
Speaker 6: for the fans. You you should be excited about this player.

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Speaker 6: I think that's a good thing. Jacob just needs to

445
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Speaker 6: make the grade, you know, like he just needs to

446
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Speaker 6: continue to do what he does, which is pretty obvious.

447
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,719
Speaker 6: You know, he's a he's a grinder and he's going

448
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Speaker 6: to play that role and he's going to have to

449
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Speaker 6: continue to play that role and also understand that, you know,

450
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Speaker 6: how do you play with energy without getting caught out

451
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Speaker 6: of position? How do you play with energy to make

452
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Speaker 6: a difference, you know, how do you how do you

453
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 6: do those things so that you're trusted And that'll be

454
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Speaker 6: the step for him, you know, And I think as

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Speaker 6: a player that looks like at this level, it's it's

456
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Speaker 6: a it's a limited skill set to be fair to him,

457
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Speaker 6: at least now, but he it's a it's a dimension

458
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Speaker 6: that the team needs because buy and large the krack

459
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Speaker 6: and don't have that. So if you're good, hard nosed,

460
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Speaker 6: physical player like he is, bring it and and I

461
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Speaker 6: think he belongs in the lineup. I'd like to see,

462
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Speaker 6: you know, more of that. I'd like to see Cartie

463
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Speaker 6: get another chance and get in there because I think

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Speaker 6: they need some banging, they need some physicality. I'm not

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Speaker 6: hundred percent sure they're going to do it the other

466
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Speaker 6: way around. So there's there's a spot for Jacob Balonson

467
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Speaker 6: and that's a big thing.

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Speaker 2: Rounding this out. The Devils, they just come off and

469
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 2: win over the Canucks largely this season. They've got finishing issues,

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Speaker 2: Dougie Hamilton issues and now Luke Hughes health issues. Where

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Speaker 2: do you measure them up versus the rest of the

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Speaker 2: East Johnny.

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Speaker 6: Well, the way Luke Hughes was playing, they might be

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Speaker 6: better off without him right now. You know, they've had

475
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 6: issues with his play inconsistency all year and based on

476
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 6: his name and his statue with the team and his contract.

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Speaker 6: It's hard being around the Devils as I was last

478
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Speaker 6: week and knowing a few the people and talking with

479
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Speaker 6: them throughout the course of the CCE. You know, he's

480
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 6: a player they's hard to pull out of their lineup.

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Speaker 6: But there are occasions over the course of the year,

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Speaker 6: according to some of these people that that know really

483
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 6: what's going on with the Devils, that he could have

484
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 6: taken a step out of the lineup and didn't. So,

485
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Speaker 6: you know, it's unfortunate. The injury had Monday night in Calgary.

486
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Speaker 6: Eddy and I had the game Tuesday night for TNT

487
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 6: in Edmonton and the Devil's put together to a man

488
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,959
Speaker 6: effort that was very impressive. And they've continued now for

489
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 6: three straight games to do the same thing. Now they

490
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Speaker 6: play with structure. This is the thing Sheldon Keith has

491
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Speaker 6: tried to drill into their heads. Goaltending has got to

492
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Speaker 6: get better. Jake Allen has been the better of the

493
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Speaker 6: two Hamilton is. You know, I know him very well.

494
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Speaker 6: He was with our team when I was in Carolina.

495
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Speaker 6: He's a player that has an unbelievable offensive ceiling. His

496
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 6: play can be indifferent. I'm not sure they're going to

497
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Speaker 6: move him, although there's a lot of rumors attached to

498
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 6: him based on the huge injury. So that'll be interesting

499
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Speaker 6: to see where that goes. But they have some balance

500
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 6: now that's underrated. You know. It's not just what Jasper

501
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 6: Bratt and Jack Hughes do and all that. Sure, they

502
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 6: need to be you know who they are, but you

503
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 6: look at the way Cody Glass is played over the

504
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 6: last two weeks and other players in their lineup, you

505
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 6: know they have some balance now, which will make them

506
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Speaker 6: a difficult opponent. I mean, it really will. And they're quick.

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00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 6: They're very fast. You know a lot of these Eastern

508
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 6: teams move, and so that'll be a challenge for the

509
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Speaker 6: Kraken to have the energy that you know they're fighting

510
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 6: right now with this schedule, that find the energy to

511
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Speaker 6: combat that.

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Speaker 2: Hey, before we go, I know that a lot of

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Speaker 2: us are looking forward to a happy Sunday across the

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Speaker 2: board in Seattle. I means so Johnny, for the football side.

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Speaker 2: Once we're all done, Seahawks rams, give me a.

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Speaker 6: Quick prediction, sixty three to nothing Seattle.

517
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: So you are all in favor of a quick and

518
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: painless victory.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, let's go to the super Bowl. Let's get

520
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 6: this thing over with and uh, let's write a great story.

521
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 6: The city deserves it, this team deserves it. The new

522
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 6: coach deserves it. Even though he's had a couple of

523
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Speaker 6: runs here. I you know, I know that. But he's

524
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Speaker 6: a young guy. You know. It's it's a great story.

525
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 6: So yeah, so I'm not I'm not going to wow

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Speaker 6: you with a lot of football, know how, because most

527
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 6: Sundays I'm watching hockey and I love football. But I

528
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Speaker 6: think sixty three nothing would be a great final score.

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Speaker 2: People wax a lot of about your record too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it would. I think it would definitely, definitely

531
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Speaker 2: would blow the Super Bowl out of the water. From

532
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: last second when they beat den Verbin. People wax a

533
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Speaker 2: lot of poetic about just how much fourth quarter games

534
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 2: for the Seahawks or torture. Who knows it's going to

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Speaker 2: go down to that, But I think a lotful Well.

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Speaker 6: Remember I'm the guy, I'm the guy in uh in

537
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 6: Philadelphia three years ago or I don't know what it was.

538
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Speaker 6: It was with Eddie and JT and the Super Bowl

539
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 6: Sunday after new with the Eagles and the Chiefs, right yeah,

540
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Speaker 6: and we're in Philadelphia and they did their predictions and

541
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 6: the team to me last and I said three two

542
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 6: Pansas City and Eddie still is angry. That was my prediction.

543
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 6: And it was a ridiculous prediction because I said three

544
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Speaker 6: to two.

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Speaker 2: Field goal and safety. It is probable actually.

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Speaker 6: So anyway, so I'm going to go with I'm going

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Speaker 6: with sixty three nothing. That's my prediction.

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Speaker 2: If you can, if you can be a prognosticator, you're

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Speaker 2: making a lot of people happier. Johnny, thank you, have

550
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Speaker 2: a great call. Appreciate you man.

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Speaker 6: Okay, thank you, Michael, take care.

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Speaker 2: All right, Johnny, thank you very much. John Forsland joining us,

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Speaker 2: wishing you a good call once again here for the

554
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Speaker 2: TV side as a crack and aiming for a split

555
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Speaker 2: in the head to head series. They last lost to

556
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Speaker 2: New Jersey in Game one of this matchup on the

557
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: previous Eastern Conference road trip, three to two in overtime.

558
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 2: You recall a course Nicohesher had a pair of goals

559
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: in that game, including the game winning overtime goal as well.

560
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: He sure leads the Devils with thirty nine points in

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Speaker 2: fifty one games. Jack Hues, though he's gone through a

562
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 2: bit of an injury speed bump this season, though performing

563
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: at near point per game levels with thirty two points

564
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: in thirty three games. And speaking of Dougie Hamilton, he's

565
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 2: got a six game point streak, all coming on assists.

566
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Speaker 2: He's got seven in total. Cody Glass, by the way,

567
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 2: has goals in back to back games on the New

568
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Speaker 2: Jersey side, Cracking right now being helped out offensively with

569
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Speaker 2: Jayden Schwartz in the three game point streak. Veniers, by

570
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 2: the way has taken over the Cracking scoring lead with

571
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Speaker 2: thirty three points in fifty games. He's also got four

572
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Speaker 2: points over the course of the last four games. Looking

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Speaker 2: forward to having you here as a Crack and trying

574
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: to get back on the winning track and even up

575
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: their home stand right now with stands at one and

576
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Speaker 2: two heading into game four of the six game stretch

577
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Speaker 2: at home and also earn a split in this head

578
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Speaker 2: to head series with New Jersey. Hope you can join

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Speaker 2: us once again special on airtime Open up at eleven

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Speaker 2: AM with a pregame edition of Talking Cracking Network coverage

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Speaker 2: opening at eleven thirty pot drops little past New Pacific time.

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Speaker 2: Right back, I climb the pledge arena certainly hope that

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Speaker 2: you can join us all across the global Credit Union

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Speaker 2: Cracking Audio Network. Thank you to jer McCann and in

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Speaker 2: John Foresland and for cracking this morning. I'm Mike Benton.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy your sports Sunday and talk with you soon.

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