WEBVTT - 2-4-26 Sloan with Adam Bird

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Scott's flowing back on seven hundred w all just

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<v Speaker 2>so much to get through this, Julie Balki a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit later on our curs Shirp, I will get into

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<v Speaker 2>the Nancy Guthrie abduction and thoughts on that coming up first. Though,

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio high school athletes were allowed to accept nil deal

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<v Speaker 2>since November. That's when the Ohio High School Athletic Association

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<v Speaker 2>responded to a lawsuit from a jamiir Bron who's an

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<v Speaker 2>OSU commit, and they saw the writing on the wal one.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we can win this, and so we'll

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<v Speaker 2>give in and we'll allow name, image and likeness deals

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<v Speaker 2>as we do in college for high school students. We

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<v Speaker 2>had a new bill out that would ban ANIL deals

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<v Speaker 2>less than a year before they started. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>people who are co sponsoring this is our buddy representative

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Byrd, the Birdman out of New Richmond and Claremont County.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you, hey, Scott. It's great to be with

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<v Speaker 1>you and looking forward to seeing what we can do

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<v Speaker 1>to protect our students in Ohio, Io from from what

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<v Speaker 1>is happening in college.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we saw what's an unravelling in college and some

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<v Speaker 2>may say, well, you know, let's go back to the

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<v Speaker 2>way it used to be. I don't think you could

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<v Speaker 2>put the two space back in the tube, but it

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<v Speaker 2>comes a little bit different in reality. How many kids

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<v Speaker 2>in high school high schools is this going to impact? Really,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that many, is it. And therefore, if that's true,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't we need to roll this back?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no way to know how many this effects because,

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<v Speaker 1>as you mentioned just a second ago, it's only been

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<v Speaker 1>in effect for a couple of months. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>do believe that this is going to unravel, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that we can allow this to stand for

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<v Speaker 1>the for the benefit and protection of our young people.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so what is it you're trying to protect them from? Exactly? Explain?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's yes, and so you know, I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>athletics and high school are an extension of the classroom.

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<v Speaker 1>They're co curricular activity that is responsible for helping to

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<v Speaker 1>teach students about character and discipline and work ethic and

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<v Speaker 1>communication skills and all of those things in fitness, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that's the reason why we provide these opportunities for

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<v Speaker 1>young people. It's not about how much money that they

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<v Speaker 1>can make and that kind of situation will destroy amateur

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<v Speaker 1>athletics and the good things that we've got going on

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<v Speaker 1>in high school right now, I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Push back on that ago. Both of those can exist

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, can't that. I mean, we can

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<v Speaker 2>put an emphasis on the classroom and character and discipline,

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<v Speaker 2>and probably even more so if money is involved, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to be a lot of money for

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<v Speaker 2>most of these kids. It's gonna be a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of money. Say maybe a couple athletes along the lines

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<v Speaker 2>that are so good at what they do and are

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<v Speaker 2>so coveted by colleges and professional sports teams that they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get some money thrown them.

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<v Speaker 3>No doubt about.

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<v Speaker 2>But the bulk of kids just simply are looking for

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<v Speaker 2>something to do extracurricularly. This wouldn't affect them at all.

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<v Speaker 2>But for those few that would benefit from the NIL deal,

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<v Speaker 2>how does this go against what you mentioned in the

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<v Speaker 2>learning And to me, it doesn't change it at them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, if you're going to have certain kids

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<v Speaker 1>on the team that are benefiting and others that are not,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to degrade the team work like atmosphere that

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<v Speaker 1>exists in amateur sports that have a team approach, like football,

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<v Speaker 1>like basketball, and it's it's important that that we we

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<v Speaker 1>protect what we've got right now. And then the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I would say, Scott, is this will turn

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<v Speaker 1>into a recruiting situation, a recruiting war where let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>a wealthy alumni of a certain school that has a

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<v Speaker 1>business wants to sign a student to an NIL deal

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<v Speaker 1>and on the on the presumption that you will transfer

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<v Speaker 1>to the school of my choosing, and and so that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. It's it's it's virtually unavoidable at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when the school is not allowed to know

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<v Speaker 1>about this, we don't. They're not going to create collectives

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<v Speaker 1>like they do college level, and so the coach is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to supposedly know about it, the athletic director,

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<v Speaker 1>the school administrator is not going to know about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they're going to have a hands on approach.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to have a I believe, a recruiting war

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<v Speaker 1>based on who has alumni that are wealthy enough to

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<v Speaker 1>affect who attends what school.

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<v Speaker 3>But isn't that going on now?

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<v Speaker 1>Hew?

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<v Speaker 2>I remember stories when I went to high school, and

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<v Speaker 2>presumably you as well. There's schools right now. I won't

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<v Speaker 2>name anybody in particular, but their schools now tend to

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<v Speaker 2>be more private and Christian. But they do this now, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll take you, bring the family in, they recruit an athlete,

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll put them up for free, like in housing.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's going on now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I agree there is recruiting going on now, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet it's not supposed to happen, and it's supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be investigated by OHSAA. I don't think that they can

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<v Speaker 1>handle it. It's beyond their stripe. And so this will

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<v Speaker 1>just make it worse. It will exacerbate it, and there

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<v Speaker 1>will be a recruiting war to create all star teams

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<v Speaker 1>based on who has wealthy alumni that are willing to

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<v Speaker 1>take their school down that path. And I just think

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<v Speaker 1>we see how this has ruined college athletics and it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to have the same impact at high school. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it ruined it. What happened. We're

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<v Speaker 3>in flux right now. I think that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's college and athletics look like in five or

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<v Speaker 2>ten years to be the question. We don't know, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's again, it's changing so quickly before eyes it seems

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<v Speaker 2>like it's broken right now, but it may not be ultimately.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a student or the parents of a student,

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't you be able to profit off someone's name eage,

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<v Speaker 2>Like the wh why why is the money?

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<v Speaker 3>Why is it a bad thing?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I get the team unity in things, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, let's face it, we have kids who are

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<v Speaker 2>poor playing sports with kids who are rich, and kids,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, have fifty thousand dollars cars and the other

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<v Speaker 2>kids got to walk to practice.

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<v Speaker 3>So we already have that disparity. That's nothing new.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not opposed to kids making money off of

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<v Speaker 1>their ability, but if they want to do that, they

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<v Speaker 1>ought to go to the Olympics, they have to join

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<v Speaker 1>a professional tour. They ought to go go get enrolled

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<v Speaker 1>in college early and get college in il money. But

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<v Speaker 1>we want to protect what has been a pure amateur

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<v Speaker 1>situation in Ohio high school and and you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>you see what it's happening. Like, let's use the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Cincinnati bearcat quarterback who just transferred to I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was Texas Tech. He didn't transfer for a better

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<v Speaker 1>educational opportunity or a better major. He transferred because that

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<v Speaker 1>other school was willing to offer him five million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and he's going to make more next year than the

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Browns starting quarterback over his entire five year contracts.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is this is going to just continue to

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<v Speaker 1>take us down the wrong path.

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<v Speaker 2>Well should we be celebrating? I mean I look at

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<v Speaker 2>that and go wow, good for that kid. That's like

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<v Speaker 2>getting a full ride scholarship to Harvard I suppose in

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<v Speaker 2>the educational side of this thing, and we don't look

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<v Speaker 2>at that going oh, grey, well, this kid's doing really well,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, they're their kids that win science fairs

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<v Speaker 2>and the company goes and buys their ideas. We celebrate that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't distinct make that much of potential in that

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<v Speaker 2>and what's going on in sports.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess we may have to disagree on that, Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>because I believe that we need to protect our students

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<v Speaker 1>from agents. We need to protect our students from tax advisors.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to protect our students just like we do

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<v Speaker 1>in child labor laws. We protect them, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>the people are going to come after them. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>ready psychologically or mentally to handle this kind of pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen how over the last a couple of decades,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the number of suicide among college athletes has doubled,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we need to protect them from this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of pressure, protect them from becoming some kind of influencer.

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<v Speaker 1>And they should be there to learn and grow and

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<v Speaker 1>not to earn an income.

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<v Speaker 2>Represent of Adam Bird at Clarman Conye in the show

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<v Speaker 2>proposing to stop nil for high school athletes here in

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<v Speaker 2>the Buckey States, co sponsored that piece of legislation. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I look at this and okay, name age, and like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much your typical high school athlete's

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<v Speaker 2>going to get, if anything, it could be like fifty

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<v Speaker 2>bucks or something like that, because most schools in Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>are rural and maybe I don't know, there's a local

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<v Speaker 2>oil change place. Goes okay, fine, we'll give you. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't give you like one hundred bucks a month. It's

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<v Speaker 2>that that big a concern because I would dig typically.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you mentioned the outliers of the kids making

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<v Speaker 2>millions of dollars, which are it's extremely rare. But if

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<v Speaker 2>a kid does get one of these things, it's only

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<v Speaker 2>going to be for a little bit of money.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway. Is this a you know, killing an aunt with

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<v Speaker 3>a sledgehammer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think. I mean, you made some assumptions there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm I'm going to push back on you a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. I don't think that you can just assume

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<v Speaker 1>that it's going to be fifty dollars. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that you can assume that it's going to happen in

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<v Speaker 1>rural areas. I think the rich will get richer, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak, when it comes to talent at certain schools.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it should not become a bidding war,

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<v Speaker 1>a recruiting war based on money. It should be about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, where is the best educational choice option for

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<v Speaker 1>my child so they can grow and be ready to

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<v Speaker 1>contribute to society. And so we're trying to protect the children.

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<v Speaker 1>We're trying to protect the school opportunity, and we don't

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<v Speaker 1>want this to become a recruiting war based on money

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<v Speaker 1>the way it's happened in college.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think too, it's already become that. And if you're

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<v Speaker 2>to go back, I think the problem is mom and

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<v Speaker 2>Dad have leaned into this themselves in a sense. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that okay in banning the analoby one thing, but to

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<v Speaker 2>really address the root costs of the problem. And you said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is about amateur sports. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how amateur it is. When you have you know, trainers

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<v Speaker 2>and coaches and agents and you're not you can't ban that.

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<v Speaker 2>The competition from you know, youth on to get in

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<v Speaker 2>a travel league, to get in this, and kids who

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<v Speaker 2>are pushed or have a calling to play a particular

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<v Speaker 2>sport or sports. And of course the more mom and

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<v Speaker 2>dad invest in their athletic career, the more that they

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<v Speaker 2>see as at stake, and a lot of parents think

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<v Speaker 2>wrongly so that their kid's going to get a college

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<v Speaker 2>scholarship and go play professional sports when odds are you know,

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<v Speaker 2>very very much against Rocky Boyman could talk about how

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<v Speaker 2>hard that is here on seven hundred WW this afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>but I look at it and go, well, you know, so,

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<v Speaker 2>if this is about the semantics of education putting that first,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't mom and dad throw that out the window a

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<v Speaker 2>long time ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's no doubt that mom and dad are spending

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money on their children's travel team. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're going to add in there and

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<v Speaker 1>a presumption now that mom and dad are investing all

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<v Speaker 1>of this money in your travel team and your travel

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity that now you're going to help reimburse mom and

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<v Speaker 1>dad based on what you might be able to earn.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's tremendous pressure on a young person that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want.

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<v Speaker 3>And again, this is what it's happening. It's happening right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's no, and IL is not happening right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids are not getting paid right now. And OSSAA would

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<v Speaker 1>like to take us down this path. And MAYIL remind

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<v Speaker 1>you Scott that they are only doing this because one

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<v Speaker 1>judge in Hamilton County issued a ruling and so they

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<v Speaker 1>made a change. And I don't think that we should

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<v Speaker 1>take the entire state of Ohio down this path because

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<v Speaker 1>one judge and Franklin County made this decision. And I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that this is an important enough issue that the

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<v Speaker 1>state legislation should weigh in on this. And if my

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<v Speaker 1>colleagues decides that I'm wrong, then at least considered it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mentioned it's happening now in the sense that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's schools even before this NIL deal was

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<v Speaker 2>struck that we're you know, essentially paying the parents to

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<v Speaker 2>come move here and stay getting their district and go

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<v Speaker 2>to school academies and things like that. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>is happening now. It's also happening that you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>tremendous pressure for kids, not just in the athletics, but

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<v Speaker 2>especially academics. As you mentioned, we're kids a suicide rate

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<v Speaker 2>and the mental health issues among college students out of

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<v Speaker 2>all time high, simply because of that pressure that's put

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<v Speaker 2>on them by people in their inner circle, namely their

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<v Speaker 2>own families. I don't know if nals it probably will

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<v Speaker 2>contribute to that somewhat, but that's already the reality for

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of college students, whether there's student athletes or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's scientific data out there that show that college

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<v Speaker 1>athletes are committing suicide at double the rate that they

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<v Speaker 1>work twenty five years. Again, that is a scientific fact,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are putting tremendous pressure on these people at

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<v Speaker 1>age nineteen twenty twenty one, and I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>we should do that through fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen year olds.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're trying to protect our children from people who

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<v Speaker 1>want to come down and take advantage of them based

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<v Speaker 1>on their athletic skills, and we need to protect our

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<v Speaker 1>kids from these kinds of people that want to come

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<v Speaker 1>in and take advantage of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and okay, it's double where it was, but the

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<v Speaker 2>suicide rates for college students who aren't student athletes are

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<v Speaker 2>paced up there. It went up like something like sixty

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<v Speaker 2>percent over the last twenty years. That's increasing at the

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<v Speaker 2>same ratio. And so it's not just student athletes. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all college students. And that is because of the tremendous

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<v Speaker 2>pressure we put on college students, not let alone those

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<v Speaker 2>who are student athletes. It's all college models. The problem

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<v Speaker 2>is that we think the way to you know, having

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<v Speaker 2>a perfect life is to go to college. We know

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<v Speaker 2>that's that true. We're starting to rethink those whole things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about, you know, the person themselves as opposed to

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<v Speaker 2>the degree that you're having on the wall. We've overvalued

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<v Speaker 2>college education and we're starting to see that come back down.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think I think the athletic part certainly fits

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<v Speaker 2>into that.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you know, this bill is about returning the

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<v Speaker 1>the OHSAA Amateur Status law to what it used to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to micromanage OHSAA. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>oversee their every move, But I do think that we

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<v Speaker 1>need to say no, we're going to move backwards. And

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<v Speaker 1>I might remind you to Scott that we have done

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<v Speaker 1>this twice in the past when it comes to transcender

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<v Speaker 1>eligibility and the state legislature said no, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>protect our girls. We also said no to OAHSAA a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago on the issue of cash when

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<v Speaker 1>you attend the game and we require them to accept

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<v Speaker 1>cash when you want to enter.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't this going to create a black market? Again?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it existed before. There are schools out there

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<v Speaker 2>that we're doing this, long before nil Adam Bird that

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<v Speaker 2>we're recruiting kids from different districts or held different states

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<v Speaker 2>of that matter, finding jobs for mom and or dad,

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<v Speaker 2>putting up at places, and essentially they're getting de facto payment,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not cash, and maybe some walking around money from

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<v Speaker 2>the boosters life for very powerful schools, not necessarily public schools,

0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.839
<v Speaker 2>private schools. How would that apply to the how'd that

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<v Speaker 2>fix it? Wouldn't this just create a black market? They

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<v Speaker 2>just go back to the way they've voiced done it,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you still have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't know that there's there's been that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of situation. Maybe there has and I'm not been aware

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<v Speaker 1>of its Laby mom or dad. Yeah, So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that we should. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>we should add to that. Again, this is about protecting

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<v Speaker 1>our kids from a situation that they're not prepared for.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about teenagers here. They're talking about teenagers that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to need a tax advisor. They're going to need

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<v Speaker 1>an agent, they're going to be entering into contracts, and

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<v Speaker 1>we've got to be careful about protecting our young people

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<v Speaker 1>from the people that want to take advantage of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, well, I think they also get some if they're

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<v Speaker 2>getting big money, they're getting some of those too.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like they're complete victims. Well, I mean the

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<v Speaker 3>composition's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to do that? If you want? If

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<v Speaker 1>you're so uber talented that you're capable of taking advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of or athletic giftedness, then you need to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics, you need to go to a tour, a

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<v Speaker 1>professional tour. You need to go to college early and

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<v Speaker 1>go air in college. And I owe money.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned the protection thing, so doesn't that I mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>the model that existed for a long time where at

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<v Speaker 2>private schools that they do this.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how how often it does, but it does.

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<v Speaker 2>It still Hal's happening right now as a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 2>where you have you know, kids recruited from other areas

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<v Speaker 2>to move back to the district in order to play

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<v Speaker 2>for their team, and then of course the family winklink

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<v Speaker 2>is taken care of. How would this protect them?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I mean you you point out that recruiting

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<v Speaker 1>is happening today and at OHSAA teams that are legal,

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<v Speaker 1>and so recruiting happens anyway. And I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be able to police the situation that

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<v Speaker 1>they're putting in place here, and they're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to investigate all of that. You're going to

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<v Speaker 1>put You're going to put now a burden upon the

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<v Speaker 1>school administrative, the athletic director of the coach to help

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<v Speaker 1>police to make it uh to inform OHSAA on these

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of things. And and I just we're we're opening

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<v Speaker 1>a can of worms that I don't think is the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why the public tax payer pays for weight rooms, stadiums,

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<v Speaker 1>gymnasiums so that they can have an extension of the

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<v Speaker 1>classroom and now we're going to allow people to take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of these young children that well they're not young children,

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<v Speaker 1>but they you know, they're not of age, and and

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of them based on facilities that have been

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<v Speaker 1>sent by the tax payer.

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<v Speaker 2>Adam's final point is it is this a nanny state issue?

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<v Speaker 2>Does this feels like nanny state to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think we have a duty. Okay, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a duty and responsibility as a government to protect our children.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've got people that want to use the situation

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<v Speaker 1>to take advantage.

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<v Speaker 2>But if my point is if the parents are okay

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<v Speaker 2>and they lean into this going wow, I've got the

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<v Speaker 2>next year borrow here, we can get some money, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>how is it. Why is it the state's obligation to

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<v Speaker 2>protect that child from their own family.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we do this all the time, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we can talk about multiple examples of how we try

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<v Speaker 1>to protect children, and so you know it's again, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not emotionally stable, they're not ready for the kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>pressure that we're going to place upon them, and we

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<v Speaker 1>want to protect the reason that we created these athletics

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<v Speaker 1>in a first place, which is an extension of the classroom.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it should not be I believe, and I

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<v Speaker 1>hope to convince my colleagues that it should not be

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<v Speaker 1>about allowing these young people to be preyed upon. We

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<v Speaker 1>want to protect them and preserve what we've had in

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<v Speaker 1>the past.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you hearing a lot from constituents supporting it or

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<v Speaker 2>is it just simply too early?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Mostly I think people constituents are listening and learning.

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<v Speaker 1>But who I'm hearing mostly from our school administrators and

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<v Speaker 1>coaches who are very much opposed to this. And remember

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<v Speaker 1>that there were a couple of hundred schools who have

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<v Speaker 1>stained from this vote. They did not want to go

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<v Speaker 1>down this vote. Others have told me that they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to vote yes, but they voted yes because they

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<v Speaker 1>felt strong armed by OHSAA. So most of the people

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm hearing from are those that are actually in

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<v Speaker 1>the school community.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're worried about this Jimmy Brown lawsuits, going, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we you know, win violation of that. It's going to

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<v Speaker 2>cost us a lot more money. We just acquiesced even

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<v Speaker 2>though we think it's wrong. But no, I'm interested to see,

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<v Speaker 2>Adam how this thing plays out. I appreciate coming on

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<v Speaker 2>this morning answering tough questions and we'll continue the discussion

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<v Speaker 2>probably the other date. Adam Richmond, I'm sorry, Adam Bird

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<v Speaker 2>out of New Richmond claim out Conney, thanks again, but I.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate coming on absolutely Scott's thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank be well, be Well. I've got to get a

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<v Speaker 2>news update in and I'm sure this story has legs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not convinced this is this is the remedy, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>quick time out. We got a news update, very latest

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<v Speaker 2>with weather moving in yet again. Winter will not give up.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven hundred w welw