WEBVTT - 10-28-25 The Nightcap with Gary Jeff Walker 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:01.840 Goo. 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:08.080 Good evening and welcome to the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW. 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:10.600 I'm Gary, Jeff Walker, you or you, and that is 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:14.120 perfectly fine with me. Here we sit a week away 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:17.720 from election day in the off year elections, which is 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:22.480 an on year for the city of Cincinnati, and there 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:25.759 are many, many important issues up in the air if 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:28.639 you are a citizen of Cincinnati and other places where 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:32.640 they will have elections next Tuesday night, which we will 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:36.599 be on air for all of the results next Tuesday 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:44.080 evening in this timeslot tonight, my focus will be on 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:50.600 the sky an object three to one atlas. It's a comet, 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:52.680 or is it that you may or may not have 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:59.600 heard of doctor Abby Lowe, who's a Harvard astrophysicist. I'm 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.400 not an ant astro or a physicist, but this guy 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:06.560 is both, and he says there's a forty percent chance 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:11.440 this thing could be alien technology because of its trajectory, 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:15.399 because of the way it's built, and because of the 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:21.120 government shutdown, NASA can't give us anything else but reassurances 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:25.039 that it's nothing to be afraid of. It's just a comet, 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:31.200 and it probably is, but it's supposed to come very 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:36.840 near to Earth. As soon as December nineteenth. It has 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:40.080 a trajectory that aligns with all the planets in our 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:45.400 solar system. It's acting very oddly, and the images that 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:50.600 NASA has of it thus far are being held back. 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.600 In turn, some people say because of the federal government shutdown, 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.400 what is object three to one at less? Is it 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:05.040 a comet? Or is it the alien Mothers ship that's 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:09.040 just about to fly very close to the Sun. Anyway, 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:13.640 That's just something that was percolating. I saw in the 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:17.400 news and it kind of caught my eye and dragged 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:20.840 it twelve feet for a second on the way. Next, 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:24.120 Jim Ornacy plus the Mad Hatter Dave Hadter in for 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:28.360 a Tuesday tech talk. Rick Robinson returns after a long 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:34.800 long absence. Michael Lets from INVESTUSA, The fur Ball, and 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:38.919 we will rebroadcast this past Saturday Morning's Rock and Roll 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:43.760 Archaeology featuring the music professor Jim le Barbara. That'll happen 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.560 just a tadbit after ten in case you missed it 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.800 on Saturday morning. You know, we can't rebroadcast it, or 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:56.040 we can rebroadcast, we can't podcast it because of licensing regulations. 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:01.280 Don't have the money to pay those fees, but we 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:05.040 do have some money to pay for the next interview. 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.440 And here's a bunch of commercials, and then we'll have 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:12.000 Jim Raneci. As the nightcap continues, look up in the 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:17.840 sky man seven hundred WLW. As I mentioned just moments ago, 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:22.519 our first guest tonight is Jim Renesy, obviously a former 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:27.720 member of the House of Representatives, former mayor of Wadsworth, Ohio. 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:31.280 And that'll tie into tonight's conversation because he's back on 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.680 council for a limited set of time, trying to save 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:38.720 the city that he loves. He knows a thing or 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:44.160 two about running political campaigns. He's won some, he's lost some, 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:50.000 and to talk about a marriad of things. Jim Ranesi 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.440 joins us first tonight. Hello, Jim, how are you. 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:55.160 Good? 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:55.920 Gary, how are you? 0:03:56.200 --> 0:04:01.000 I'm fantastic. We'll get to President Trump's ballroom, but first 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:05.640 we have an illustration that you were just telling me 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:10.960 about of how government works and how it doesn't sometimes. 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:17.040 And it's not necessarily a Republican or Democrat problem. It's 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:21.360 a politician problem. And people who were supposed to be 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:26.800 good stewards of our money and caring about the public 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:32.240 they are supposed to be serving first. Sometimes too often, 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:36.800 not just in Wadsworth, but all around the country are 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:41.599 caring about their pet projects or their vanity projects instead 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:47.200 of infrastructure and public safety and public works first. And 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.159 you had an illustration of that that just occurred. You're 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:55.440 temporarily sitting on the Wadsworth, Ohio City Council. It's a 0:04:55.440 --> 0:05:01.479 city of about twenty five thousand people. Where is it located, Jim. 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:04.920 Gary, Wadsworth is west of Akron and south of Cleveland, 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:09.320 about thirty miles south of Cleveland, about fifteen miles west 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.520 of Akron. So right on Route seventy six, anybody that 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:16.960 travels north from Cincinnati and is heading to New York 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:22.120 or over the northern part of Pennsylvania actually has to 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.680 cut right through Wadsworth. Throughout seventy six cuts right through 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:25.080 the city. 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:29.040 There you go, all right, So you recently filled a spot. 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.960 You stepped in once again, being the public servant that 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.839 you are, Jim, to be a member of the Wadsworth 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:40.840 City Council. And lo and behold, you had an issue 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:46.159 come up where infrastructure was not regarded and some kind 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:50.800 of park project was the first priority of this city. Council. 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:56.000 They wanted to spend thirty five million on parks, as 0:05:56.040 --> 0:06:00.000 I understand, and you were harping on the fact that 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.600 they need to really concentrate on your infrastructure. 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:07.039 And then what happened, well, and I blame the administration 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.839 more than city council. City council will actually asked me 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:13.640 to join back for six months. There was a resignation 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:16.039 of one individual, and I. 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:16.720 Did step up. 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.239 They said, we just need you to look at what's 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.359 going on with this administration. And the administration was really 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:27.440 going down the paths of major park renovations. I mean 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:31.280 one park alone one point nine million dollars. It's already 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.760 been spent. And as I was looking now as a 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:39.520 member of city council, former mayor, former House representative, I 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.960 realized that we do have a systemic problem. We have 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:48.599 elected officials who forget that the basic reason for government 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:54.320 is really for the services that are required. Not you know, 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:58.080 parks are great, all cities need parks, but at the 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:02.560 same time, you have to have the basic services. Look, 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.520 I would and say, that's about the federal government. Remember, 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.600 the federal government was asked by the states to do 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.880 limited things, and now they've taken over so many other things. 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:16.440 But I think it's a systemic problem around the country. 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:20.440 These elected officials, they get elected, they start looking around 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.840 at legacies. What can my legacy be, What can my 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:27.960 next position be? How do I make the people like me? 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:30.320 The answer is, you're elected to do. 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:30.840 The right thing. 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:35.200 Oh hold on, Jim, you mean, how do I keep 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:39.440 from getting primaried by a more leftist candidate if I 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:43.480 don't hold the line on keeping the government open like 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:47.320 that like Chuck Show, all of. 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:50.760 Those things, and it's amazing that it trickles all the 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:52.760 way down. But here in Ladsworth they were looking at 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:58.000 thirty five million dollars worth of part projects that would 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.360 have had to be borrowed. There's not enough money at 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.080 the city to do this. They were talking about a 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:06.640 large borrowing and then last night we had a city 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:11.800 power outage that lasted twelve hours. Businesses one gas station 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:15.360 downtown said they lost about eleven or twelve thousand dollars. 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.200 It's one small gas station, but you have to remember 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:23.480 that there's businesses across the state, city, restaurants, all these things, 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:28.120 all because we don't have a redundant power system coming 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:32.400 in to the city and one pole. One pole went 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:36.280 down and took the entire city out for twelve hours. 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:41.040 It shows you that government needs to start paying attention 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:48.319 to really what are the services needed, the infrastructure needed, 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.600 whether it's state, local, or federal government, and quit worrying 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:57.000 about pet projects and things that will get them re elected. So, yeah, 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:01.880 it hits home, but I think it's a national issue 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:05.800 because whether it's a local city, local county, we're doing 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:07.480 the same thing across this country. 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:12.680 Well, no infrastructure has been one of the clarion calls 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:16.520 of what people say we need to address. We know 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.160 that our infrastructure. We know, for example, that our air 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:25.880 traffic control systems and equipment is way way out of date, 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.439 and we've seen incidents as of planes coming out of 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:35.479 the sky near near missus and the like on runways. 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:40.400 We know that our rail traffic in this country, the 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:45.600 lines many times are so outdated and they need vital 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:50.520 reconstruction to keep up with the times and the demand. 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.560 We know that our highway systems and our roads are 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:59.960 not where they need to be. Our bridges and power, 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:05.400 as you mentioned, there was no redundant pickup power. When 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.080 this one pole goes out in a city of twenty 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:12.160 five thousand catches fire and takes the whole grid down 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.320 because there's simply no backup plan. There has to be 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:19.959 a backup plan, whether it's your electric power system, whether 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:25.560 it's your water system, regardless of what the public utility is. Jim, 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.160 and the Constitution calls for the federal government to do 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:32.640 two things, and that's to provide for the common defense 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.280 and promote the general welfare. And one of the ways 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:40.360 in which you promote the general welfare is you make people. 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:44.600 You make sure people have a way to continue the 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:50.360 life that they're used to and the services that they need, 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:54.480 as opposed to anything else that comes after, any other 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.119 kind of bureaucracy that comes after we are so bloated, 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.840 and to see it happen and a microcosm, like in 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:06.920 the little town in Ohio where you are, it's it's 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:10.560 it is all over the country. It's in Cincinnati, it's 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:14.720 in Cleveland, it's in Louisville. It's it's the problem with 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:18.360 our infrastructure in this country and the attention that needs 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:20.600 to be paid to it that's not being paid because 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.480 there are so many other little bike trails and parks 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:28.640 and all the other nice things that are are things 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:32.800 that you concentrate on when everything else, the important stuff, 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:33.760 is taken care of. 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:39.079 Well, you're absolutely right. I call that critical infrastructure. And 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:42.320 you know you mentioned it. Whether it's the electricity or 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:46.719 water in our communities, or whether it's the air traffic system, 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:51.400 this is critical infrastructure. The bridge is all critical infrastructure. 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.640 And I only wish you know, it's funny you said 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.800 that about our You know, the national government was supposed 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.360 to only do a few things. Can you imagine if 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.360 we could get it back to doing just a few 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:09.079 things the post office, interstate commerce, national defense. 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:09.920 If you could. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:13.079 Shrink that government down just to doing that, and then 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:17.079 let the states start taking care of state issues only, 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.000 and let the city start taking care of city issues 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:24.760 infrastructures only. We have such a much greater country. And 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.559 by the way, we wouldn't be paying as many taxes 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:29.160 or amount. 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:30.040 Of taxes like we are. 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:35.160 And let's face it, Ohio, the property taxes, everybody knows 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.280 is a big issue because all they did in the 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:42.960 state of Ohio was reduce the tax rates. But like 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.319 a balloon, when you push one side down, the other 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.240 side goes up. All of the real estate taxes have 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:51.440 now exploded in our state too, and it's just a 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:55.800 bloated system from federal to state to local governments that 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:57.160 really needs to be looked at. 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:57.480 Well. 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:00.640 I mean, what has I always try and look and 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.440 see what is the Department of Energy ever done for 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:07.080 me as an American citizen and taxpayer? And I can't 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.000 think of anything, to be honest with you. The Department 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:13.720 of Education never did a darn thing for me as 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:17.560 a citizen. And it's not because I don't believe that 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:23.439 American children should be provided an education that is befitting 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.319 of the greatest country on the face of the earth, 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:28.920 because we're not getting that right now. And we've had 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:34.280 the Department of Education ever since nineteen seventy nine. What 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:38.000 has the EPA really done in the last thirty years 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:43.120 to help the environment? You know that Marge shot made 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.840 the horrible statement once of you know, Hitler was good 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.040 at first and then he went too far. You could 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:54.479 say the same things about many of these government bureaucracies. 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:59.880 I understand the original inclination to help a certain problem 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:04.600 than Americans were some people constituents were calling out for, 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:10.680 but really, once they've outlived their usefulness, these government agencies 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:14.040 never go away, Jim. And that's a problem. 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.760 There's there's your answer right there. They just never go away. 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.400 Not only that, Harry, they never never go away, and 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:27.360 they continue to grow. And that's really the problem. So yeah, 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:32.000 it's it's interesting we keep doing it. We keep electing 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.640 the same people. They they keep going to Washington, they 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.200 keep going to the State House, they keep going to 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:40.600 our local city councils. And what I've learned is they 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:44.440 just become a rubber stamp. And it really comes down 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:48.720 to having key people that say, I mean, look Donald Trump, 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.640 for those that hate him and those that love him, 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:56.040 his greatest asset is he's going to get things done 0:14:56.520 --> 0:15:00.160 in the best interest that he believes is for the people. Now, well, 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.080 the way he's doing it is what a lot of 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:07.880 people don't like, and that's a whole another story. But 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:12.400 you know, politics is about being likable in many ways, 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.560 and we elect people because we like them, not because 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:19.840 they're qualified. And too often we find this that even 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:25.600 those that are qualified, like Donald Trump, sometimes does go 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:29.960 outside of the bandwidth to be likable, and that causes 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:33.200 issues as well. But I'd rather have the qualified person 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:38.520 than and that person be unliked than the likable person 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:40.359 who is not qualified. 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:43.880 Well, I mean the perfect example of a likable person 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.400 to some people, in some people's eyes, who is not 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:54.600 qualified is zeronman Dami in New York. He's preaching the 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.720 socialist preaching of everything's free and we're going to make 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.880 everything affordable with the snap of our finger, with the 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:05.760 pressing of a ballot here and there. Next Tuesday night, 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.960 it looks like he's going to win. But there is 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.920 nothing to say that he is qualified to lead a 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.080 city of eight million people, is there? 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:16.720 No? 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.920 But that's what happens across the state and across the country. 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:25.320 The most likable person gets elected in many, many, many cases. 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.320 And I said that all along, you can be the 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:33.120 most qualified. You know, the elections I lost, I know 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:35.560 you talked about that early on. I always chuckle because 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.840 in many cases, the voters that did not vote for 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.720 me didn't like the changes I was going to make, 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:46.120 which were from a qualified standpoint. I mean, there are 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.960 still many things that need to be done in our state, 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:55.800 and you know, if we don't make those tough decisions 0:16:55.800 --> 0:17:00.080 in many cases are going to hurt some people that 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.400 that accept those benefits or whatever, then we're never going 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.120 to fix our problems. It's why our state government budget 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:11.240 has exploded, our federal government budget is exploding, which leads 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.840 me to when we end this shutdown, which is a 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:18.160 whole nother story. But when we end this shutdown, mark 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.600 what I'm saying, We're going to have Republicans crossover and 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:26.359 vote for subsidies that or are supposed to be eliminated 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.960 to reduce our spending. But they know that they will 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:32.959 not get re elected if they don't do that, And 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:36.960 that's the problem that we're seeing all across our country. 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:40.600 Yeah, I mean, listen, we're seeing that with Democrats right 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:45.119 now in this shutdown, because they're so concerned about the 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:49.159 hyper left of their base not voting for them in 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.040 a primary or in an upcoming election in the midterms, 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:56.679 that they are dragging their feet by voting for the 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.640 continuing resolution that doesn't spend any more money and lets 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:04.760 them sit down and debate those other subsidies with the Republicans. 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.080 So the Democrats are playing the same game. Uh, And 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:12.359 it's it's really disgusting to see what's being done in 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:16.840 our name as taxpayers. Again, these people, this is not 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:22.119 their money, this is our money. They don't they're not 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:26.159 our bosses. They work for us, supposedly according to the 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.560 constitution and the structure of our government in this country. 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:33.400 And they certainly are not acting like they work for us, 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:35.080 are they. 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:39.200 Well, Gare I got even one thing that is more shocking. 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.800 It's not our money, it's our children and grandchildren's money, 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.400 because it's borrowed money that they're going to have to pay. 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:47.760 Right, You're right, they've they've already spent our money. 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.719 Jim, Yeah, our money has been spent already. They are 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:56.399 now spending future generations money. Both again, I always say this, 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:59.960 both Republicans and Democrats. I mean, yeah, we can throw 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.800 point the finger of Democrats right now for not keep 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.600 not allowing the government open. But what I was trying 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:09.560 to say is Republicans are going to reopen it by 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:15.480 supporting subsidies for Obamacare, which we're supposed to go away 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.680 and did go away in the Big Beautiful Bill. And 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.119 this is what I'm trying to say. People forget they 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.680 went through this whole process to pass this big beautiful 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:28.280 bill which eliminated the subsidies, and watch Republicans cross over 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:32.720 and vote for the subsidies to reopen the government. Going forward. 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:35.919 That's what I'm saying. It's all about the election, the 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:36.600 next election. 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:41.720 It's hodorific. Jim Reneesi, thank you so much for your 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:45.280 time today. I appreciate it. I always enjoy our conversations. 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:49.120 And you know, God has you in Wadsworth right now 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:52.520 because by God they need you there. Just remember that. 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:57.480 Okay, Well, I appreciate that, and I wish God would 0:19:57.560 --> 0:19:59.040 keep quit finding me jobs to do. 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:03.360 But I always like to go right. I can take 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:04.080 care of my friend. 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:05.520 Thank you. 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:09.840 It has been way too long since we have had 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:13.240 a chance to chat with our friend Rick Robinson, and 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:17.520 I finally, you know, took the bull by the horns 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.479 and called him and said, Rick, let's do some radio together, 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:23.760 even though for all kinds of reasons we can't be 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:26.600 in the studio together. Tonight we are on the phone 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.840 with the man who wrote the great Book nineteen sixty 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:33.520 eight and so many other fantastic pieces of literature, both 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:38.680 the fiction and non fiction, and also a lawyer and 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:43.040 someone with some deep, deep ties to Washington, d C. 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:48.960 And our government in Kentucky and federally, and the guy 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:52.280 that has been there, he knows where the bodies are buried. 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:55.879 He still hasn't told me exactly where the bodies are buried, 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:58.679 but you know then he'd have to kill me. 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:02.919 Of course, I have to clean off the shovel first. 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:08.040 Good deal, always clean the shovel. Do you use bleach 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:10.040 for that or how does that work? 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:11.880 You know, it's kind of like. 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:15.600 That scene in Goodfellows, you know, you know where they 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:17.280 go and they go, what's that? 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:19.240 What's that noise in the back of the trunk. 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:22.639 We got a problem with this, That's what Democrats and 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:25.600 Republicans are saying. We got a problem with this bats thing, 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:27.320 this billy bats thing. 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:33.320 So uh, let's talk first about the the uh, the 0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:36.040 elephant and the donkey in the room, which of course 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:39.040 is the government shutdown, which continues now for almost a 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:43.000 full month. And I think, you know, I know a 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:45.959 lot of people thought in the first couple of weeks 0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:48.800 of it the Democrats were winning the messaging on it. 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:51.440 I don't think they still are. And forget about polls. 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:53.880 I'm just telling you it's coming more and more into 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:58.000 focus that real Americans are being hurt by this with 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:01.800 the snap and the WIG program. The Republicans are ready 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:08.320 to continue the spending as it was not adding anymore 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:11.680 and not adding anything to the big bill that passed 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:16.120 July fourth. The Democrats want all kinds of subsidies put 0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:19.040 back in before there's any negotiation, before they will come 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:21.760 to the foe and vote in the Senate. This is 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.680 being known as the Schumer shut down. And when wick 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:27.879 and Snap benefits are cut off and people start losing 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:31.760 their paychecks, you got to look at at who's you know. 0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:36.119 They Democrats keep on asking the Republicans to negotiate. Well, 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:39.119 the Republicans already passed the clean cr in the House, 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:44.439 so they can negotiate, and Chuck Schumer primarily and some 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:48.800 of his Democratic counterparts aren't willing to go ahead and 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:51.359 vote because they're afraid of the Marxist left base of 0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:53.720 their party. And I think that message is starting to 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:54.840 resonate with voters. 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.919 What do you think, Well, I think this is a 0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:00.760 week actually, Gary Cheff, that this is a good time 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:04.240 to be talking about this because it's all going to 0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:06.040 start coming to a head this week. 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:08.639 And when I say that, I mean. 0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:12.640 Because this is the first round of folks who are 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:18.000 still working not getting paychecks, you know, Ran Paul yesterday, 0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:21.159 I noticed in today this morning's newspaper said, you know, 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:25.199 his comment was with his dry sense of humor that 0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:25.880 he has. 0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:27.520 I don't know about. 0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:29.600 You, but I want to make sure that my air 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:33.080 traffic controller for my flight back today is is somebody 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:34.119 who's getting paid. 0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.400 You know, this is when it's the rubber is starting 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:38.880 to hit the road. 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:44.480 You're having folks at TSA, You're having folks at the 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:47.000 air traffic control of all the military. Are all these 0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:50.400 people who continue to work without pay? This is coming 0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:53.399 to a head this week. The other thing, though not 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:57.240 really focused upon and any of the media that I'm reading, 0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:04.199 is that also this week, the people who are the 0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:08.920 and this comes from actually as you might expect from 0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:12.159 me from going to a bar recently, this hits with 0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:17.040 This hits with, you know, the people who are the 0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:21.880 working poor of America because also in the coming week, 0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:23.520 they won't start. 0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:26.399 Getting their new premium. 0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:32.160 Amounts for their health insurance that they've gotten under the ACA. 0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:35.360 And it's going to be interesting to see what those 0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:38.480 premiums do, because you make you know, you're talking about 0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:41.439 people who, in the instance of the person that I 0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.920 was speaking with, you know, probably I didn't ask her, 0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:48.760 but probably makes thirty to you know, thirty five thousand 0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:51.040 a year, you know, takes their tips and. 0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:53.960 Doesn't declare them. 0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:57.199 You know, and then gets her her health character the 0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:03.880 ACA thor the government. If that doubles triples for her, 0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:06.000 she can't afford it. 0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:09.159 So it's going to. 0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:13.160 Be interesting to see what happens this week with all 0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:18.040 of that coming to fruition, and what's going to happen, 0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:21.000 you know, in the coming weeks with the shutdown. 0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:23.359