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Speaker 1: KRC Deep Talk Station A twenty eight on a Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: It's that time a week retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis.

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Speaker 1: We call it the year. He calls it the Daniel

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Speaker 1: Davis Deep Dive Alerted Podcasts. You can follow him wherever

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Speaker 1: he does his podcast and wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, my friend. It's always great having you on

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Speaker 1: the fifty five KRSE Morning show, Sir.

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Speaker 2: And believe me, it's always great to be here. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for having me back.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you willingness to come on the show and

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Speaker 1: talk about matters military and I. As we enter, and

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Speaker 1: I've been reeling from this all morning, I wasn't paying

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Speaker 1: attention to the passage of time. Daniel Davis, we have

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Speaker 1: just entered year number five of the conflict between Russian

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Speaker 1: and Ukraine. But before we get to that and some

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Speaker 1: of the horrific fatality figures that numbers have been crunched

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Speaker 1: from the Center for Strategic Intelligence Studies, I want to

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Speaker 1: start with Mexico. I I'm actually cautiously optimistic that the

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Speaker 1: President Scheinbaum is going to get their act together and

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Speaker 1: they're finally going to do something about the state of

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Speaker 1: corruption in their country, maybe for the benefit of the

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Speaker 1: entire Mexican population, but most notably the spillover benefit we're

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Speaker 1: going to enjoy. Obviously, Donald Trump had been threatening to

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Speaker 1: send in American military forces to deal with the cartel

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Speaker 1: problems in Mexico, something that I'm not holding my hand

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Speaker 1: up in favor of Daniel Davis. It's their country, let

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Speaker 1: them figure it out. But I've been witnessing for the

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Speaker 1: past several decades the level of corruption in Mexico. You

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Speaker 1: get a reform candidate runs for office, judicial, prosecutorial, elected

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Speaker 1: capacity in something, somebody kills them. Oh, the cartel they

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Speaker 1: have infiltrated virtually every area of government. It is costally corrupt,

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Speaker 1: and the only way to stop them is, I guess,

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Speaker 1: to start killing the elementsos of the world and maybe

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Speaker 1: take some stocking themselves. Do you see this as a

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Speaker 1: positive development, Daniel Davis? Do you think I'm overly optimistic, Sir?

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be optimistic at the outcome just yet. I

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Speaker 2: am optimistic that at least they're trying, right, because in

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Speaker 2: the absence of even starting something like this, then you

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Speaker 2: literally just surrender to these folks. And I've actually been

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Speaker 2: doing some just some research here to remind my own

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Speaker 2: self about some of the recent history. I'm talking like

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Speaker 2: the last several days, decades, and it is just bloody

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Speaker 2: for all those who have tried, and I mean at

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Speaker 2: every level. It's not just at the top, but it's

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Speaker 2: all the ones in between. And these guys are absolutely

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Speaker 2: bloodthirsty and ruthless in their attacks, killing family members, friends, obviously, competitors, etc.

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Speaker 2: And definitely members of the military, slash police, and the government.

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Speaker 2: And it is no joke to take these on. And

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Speaker 2: when somebody like Shinbaum takes us on, they know for

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Speaker 2: sure that they are putting their lives in their hands

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Speaker 2: and that they could go down. But man, and you

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Speaker 2: saw the results here. That was a pretty strong signal

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Speaker 2: that this is not going to be cheap, easy or quick.

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Speaker 2: So I think that it's going to be just like

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Speaker 2: so many of these things are at nearly any level,

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Speaker 2: it's a contest of wills, who is going to press

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Speaker 2: the hardest, who is going to take the casualties, because

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Speaker 2: both sides are going to suffer some. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: I think like twenty five policemen were killed and a

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Speaker 2: on and God help us all if it doesn't succeed.

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Speaker 2: But if it does, then I am I would be

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Speaker 2: very optimistic, and I'm hopeful that they can get there

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Speaker 2: for the sake not just of the drugs that we're

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Speaker 1: That's my Yeah, that's my broader point. Listen, I don't

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Speaker 1: of self reflection on that. But yeah, to be more broadly,

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Speaker 1: of course would certainly spill over to our economic advantage.

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Speaker 1: It's good for everybody to get rid of these clowns,

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Speaker 2: It's just that it's so bloody hard because there is

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Speaker 2: why this is such a hard, thorny issue. It's not

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Speaker 2: It's a generational fight, and I hope Mexico's up for it.

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Speaker 1: Well. It's been in generations going on that it's been

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Speaker 1: They've allowed it to go by, and the cartel has

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Speaker 1: reported that American intelligence is helping the Mexican government in

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Speaker 1: their efforts. Welcome help. I imagine that Scheinbaum has no

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Speaker 1: problem utilizing our intelligence resources, not our military ones, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, it took quite a bit of intelligence to

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Speaker 1: figure out, well how Chapo was or whatever that guy's

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Speaker 2: You there, Yeah, Oh sorry, I thought you were continue on, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you that's That's one of the things

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Speaker 2: unilaterally going in and doing what we want, that would

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Speaker 2: have been a big mistake and just awful. But going

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Speaker 2: a good thing. And if they asked for this and

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Speaker 1: I do too, all right, pivoting over again year five

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Speaker 1: for the war between Russia and Ukraine. And I've mentioned

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Speaker 1: the fog of war and now you've heard that comment before.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about casualties on this program before. No one

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Speaker 1: Intelligent studies. They reference it as nonpartisan. I'm sure you're

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Speaker 1: familiar with it. But Russia had three hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: Daniel Davis.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've heard a figure that I personally think

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand fatalities and about triple that number

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Speaker 2: But I don't at all believe those numbers on the

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Speaker 2: That the side that it has somewhere between you three

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Speaker 1: To me at all.

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Speaker 2: I think the more plausible number I've seen is somewhere

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Speaker 2: and that is logical based on the amount of firepower,

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Speaker 2: disagree with you, And what you say certainly is logical

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Speaker 2: and reasonable. Again, fog of war. You know somebody has

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Speaker 2: But you know, when this conflict is over, and God

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Speaker 2: only help us that it ends soon, and whatever land

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Speaker 2: I understand it's a very agrarian community, the bread basket

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Speaker 2: Is there going to be anybody left to do that?

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Speaker 2: Daniel Davis, Well, that is one of the big problems,

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Speaker 2: and that is one of the big problems I have

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Speaker 2: Every time Russia offers a deal, then it's worse the

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Speaker 2: That's more important than the manpower or than the territorial issue.

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Speaker 2: But the territorial issue is important insofar as the four

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Speaker 2: I think once they get to those then they have

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Speaker 2: of those four oblusts, they'll keep going and the Russians

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Speaker 2: will take even more territory. And at some point there's

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Speaker 2: just it's not going to be enough men on the

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Speaker 2: shortage of men on the Russian side. It is eventually

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Speaker 1: And without men after the war's over, who's going to

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Speaker 1: run the country properly. It's just a sad state effects, right,

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Speaker 1: And you know, I just have to observe again. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of like I said it every week, Daniel Davis

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Speaker 1: Washern's repeat. We seem to be having the same conversation

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Speaker 1: somewhere dark and damp. They don't listen, they don't pay

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Speaker 1: attention to the realities on the ground. They say the

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Speaker 1: same thing over and over again, and the next week

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Speaker 1: you and I be saying the same damn thing. Oh

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Speaker 1: look they're doing it again. It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: And you know what you had at this, you know,

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Speaker 2: trying to I don't know why they would do it,

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Speaker 2: existed through four years of war. That's laudable in one sense,

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Speaker 2: but it's also condemning in another, because all you've done

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Speaker 2: by not taking these off ramps is devastate the male

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Speaker 2: And then you have Keir Starmer leading the way today

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, what in the world, what.

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Speaker 1: Kind of planet are you on that you would.

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Speaker 2: Say that, Because then that's says, let's keep on having

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Speaker 2: Well done.

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Speaker 1: Your point is we pivot over to Iran for we

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Speaker 1: part coming today Daniel Davis and again follow Daniel Davis

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Speaker 1: I guess you and I you're on record, and I

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Speaker 1: Only moment away from dropping bombs. Donald Trump says, I'm

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Speaker 1: you listen, you better negotiate him a drop up. Do

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Speaker 1: you ever hear any dissent? I mean, again, going back

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Speaker 2: Yeah, According to the recent reporting, there there are two

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Speaker 2: and Telsea Gabbard, who are saying, don't do this. It's

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Speaker 2: it's a counter and it's counter to our interest. The

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to have any success, but

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Speaker 2: at least there's something there. But these are just, you know,

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, before we go to war, there's an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to negotiate a resolution. Daniel Davis te Lea freeding.

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Speaker 1: Will Iran capitulate enough to prevent this from happening.

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Speaker 2: It's not possible. They can't because what they're willing to

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Speaker 2: capitulate is is kind completely contradictory to what we're demanding

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Speaker 2: that they do. It's just not even possible right now.

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Speaker 1: Oh, kind of like Russia Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, in a sense it is. The conditions are

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Speaker 1: Daniel Davis deep Tie, retireal tendor colonel. Follow him on

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast. I'll look forward to another

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Speaker 1: conversation with you, Daniel. I appreciate your straightforward way of

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Speaker 1: my listening audience. It's wonderful that you have you as

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Speaker 1: a as a feature on my program Sir, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You very much.

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Speaker 1: It's an honor for me. Thank you, so take care

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