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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cracking this morning, a presentation of the Kraken

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Speaker 1: Audio Network Ken Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM.

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Speaker 1: Here's Mike Benton.

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Speaker 2: A little pause in the calendar is finally in the

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Speaker 2: rearview mirror. We're set for the Kracking in the Edmonton

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Speaker 2: Oilers this evening from Rogers Place, a rematch of last Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Mike Benton with you for Cracking this morning. This game

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Speaker 2: coming to you on a Thursday, December fourth, with the

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Speaker 2: Kraken opening up the calendar for the new month, still

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Speaker 2: very much in the playoff mix at eleven seven and

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Speaker 2: six twenty eight points one ahead of Edmonton with a

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Speaker 2: record of eleven eleven and five. Opening face off six

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Speaker 2: pm again Pacific time from Edmonton. Ever it fits you,

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Speaker 2: al Kiniski on the call. I'll join you from Network

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Speaker 2: Central for your pregame show served up by Frostbrewed Corps

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Speaker 2: Light Choose Chill, opening up five thirty on ninety three

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Speaker 2: to three KJARFM for the radio flagship and all across

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Speaker 2: the global. Credit you Kraken Audio Network, with the Kraken

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Speaker 2: looking for payback after a four nothing to feed to Edmonton,

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Speaker 2: who was pretty ready. It appeared with their familiar cast

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Speaker 2: chipping in getting goals for the likes of Ryan Nugent Hopkins,

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Speaker 2: Connor McDavid and Leon Dreys. Title we will hear from

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Speaker 2: head coach Lane Lambert and his comments to the media

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Speaker 2: after practice on Wednesday at Kraken Community Ice plus plus

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Speaker 2: Darren Brown joining us of NHL dot com and also

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Speaker 2: soundof Hockey dot Com. Additionally getting into our biggest takeaway

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Speaker 2: from practice, Mason Marchman's absence, emotional carryover from this last

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Speaker 2: weekend and surprises so far neck and neck proverbial le

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Speaker 2: with the crack and right now in the race within

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Speaker 2: the Western Conference. Darren Brown joining us here in just

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Speaker 2: a bits well for the previous few days, the crack

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Speaker 2: and missing Mason Marchman. Originally on Monday, head coach Lane

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Speaker 2: Lambert saying that it was due to a maintenance day,

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Speaker 2: but still no Marchman on ice leading through Wednesday. Brandon Montor,

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Speaker 2: who missed practice Monday and Tuesday, was back on ice

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Speaker 2: as well, along with the Kraken trying to tidy up

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Speaker 2: their game with a winless schedule, trying to end right

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Speaker 2: now at three consecutive games. After practice Wednesday at coach

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Speaker 2: Lane Lambert met with the media to discuss more.

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Speaker 3: You see Monty out there practicing. Any update on.

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Speaker 4: Mason and yeah, he's not gonna travel. You won't play tomorrow,

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Speaker 4: and we'll see. We're hopeful he'll play Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Is it any designation you can share up or lower

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Speaker 3: or something else.

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Speaker 4: No, we'll just keep it at that.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, you talk a lot about special teams work and such.

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Speaker 1: To and we saw some more of that today.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, is there a way that almost like iron can

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Speaker 5: sharp and iron in the sense that your power play

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Speaker 5: and your penalty killing units are competing against each other,

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Speaker 5: but in a way these practice environments kind of know

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Speaker 5: what each other's trying to do.

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Speaker 3: Is that almost help in the practice?

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Speaker 4: Well, the competition between the two like is critical. You know,

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Speaker 4: if you have if you have a good power play,

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Speaker 4: it improves your penalty kill. If you're penalty kill is good,

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Speaker 4: then it improves your power play vice versas. So you know,

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Speaker 4: we did we did a lot of film in the

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Speaker 4: last couple of days. We did some work on the

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Speaker 4: Because you know, we talk about our power play. Our

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Speaker 4: and you know you're going to go through little stretches

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Speaker 4: the power play is you know, gets a little gets

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Speaker 4: you know, our penalty kill, you know, to give up

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Speaker 4: twenty goals here so far in twenty four games, to me,

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Speaker 4: that's a problem. And you know, we talk about our

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Speaker 3: To that point, do you think it's a function of

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Speaker 3: is it just not properly executing their all the penalty killer?

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Speaker 6: Be behind that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's some lack of execution and responsibilities, you know,

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Speaker 4: and it's it's tough to be a penalty killer in

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Speaker 4: It's just the bottom line, like you know, we can

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Speaker 4: next thing, but twenty four games into it and twenty goals,

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Speaker 4: you know, whoever's killing penalties has to be better. Doesn't

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Speaker 4: matter if you've killed in the National Hockey League before

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Speaker 1: Mental side of that. How do you keep that from

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Speaker 4: Not have that spiral? Or is there you said to

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Speaker 4: not like we haven't been playing against top power plays,

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Speaker 4: it's it's every team goes through it at one point

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Speaker 3: We've talked to you plenty obviously about special teams from

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Speaker 4: To generate among that? Well, I think if you look

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Speaker 4: I think that you know, when you're having trouble scoring,

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Speaker 5: Now there's a breath that can happen. Like people look

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Speaker 4: Well, I think I think you have to look at

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Speaker 2: Fun ahead of the rematch this evening, our friend Darren

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Speaker 2: Brown of NHL dot com also see see Oh we

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Speaker 2: should say for the sound of hockey, been that since

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Speaker 2: the dawn of time, joining us once again on cracking

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Speaker 2: this morning. It's been a while, but Darren has been here, there,

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Speaker 2: and everywhere, my friend. On a belated note, Happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: How was on your end?

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Speaker 6: That's fantastic.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, lots of eating and drinking and playing games and

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Speaker 6: So no complaints. I do love that. You gotta love

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Speaker 6: that holiday, right.

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Speaker 7: Just oh my goodness built around just kind of being

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Speaker 6: And that was what I did, and it was wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Every end there must being right, or for every end

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Speaker 6: That's right. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was going out of pretty good in the kitchen

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Speaker 7: They do allow goals almost every game and the penalty kill,

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Speaker 7: But at the other end of the of the ice

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Speaker 6: But yeah, as far as the.

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Speaker 7: Lineup is concerned, I think Newman flots in pretty easily.

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Speaker 7: Catton is still playing a big role. You know, he's

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Speaker 2: Darren the Mason March Mint Darnell Nurse kerfuffle was kind

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Speaker 7: You know, I'm sure there will be some bad blood.

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Speaker 7: I would guess it's going to play out more as

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Speaker 2: for Sound of Hockey, Dren, I want to get back

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Speaker 2: to Berkeley Catton, you dropped his name here about a

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Speaker 6: I'm going to say, it's gonna beat Man.

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Speaker 7: He had a beauty at practice, took a path I

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Speaker 7: nice goal, So I'm gonna go with that. I think

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Speaker 7: He's had so many good looks. The problem is he's

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Speaker 6: But it's got to be coming soon. It just has

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Speaker 7: It's been such a storyline. You can tell it's starting

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Speaker 2: I don't have to decide multiple choice style here. We'll

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Speaker 6: That's a good question.

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Speaker 7: Well, of all the teams in the West, I think

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Speaker 6: So that's the one that I'll go with.

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Speaker 2: They have a lot of young players, it seems like,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be a collision. Darren, appreciate you as always,

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Speaker 2: The cracking at number one in the NHL for five

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