1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: It's nice size with Dan Ray. I'm going you easy 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Boston's news radio. 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: Dikes have a good weekend, but try to be warm. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: It is brutal out there. It's just outside literally three 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: minutes ago, and it is it feels like winter, feels 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: like the depth of winter. And it's December the fifth. 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 2: My name is Dan Ray. Welcome on in, everybody to 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 2: a Friday night edition of Nightside. Gather around the radio 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: and we will keep you warm all the way until 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: the midnight hour, will get you all the way just 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: to the cusp of Saturday. We being myself the host 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: of the show, Dan Ray, and Rob Brooks, the producer 13 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: of this fine broadcast. We're wrapping up another week here 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: on Nightside, and we will talk about some different topics 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: tonight at nine o'clock. I want to talk about the 16 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: cold today. Winter arrived. I mean, this was like a 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: ninety five degree day in June. I mean, you don't 18 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: expect it. And I'm sure that some people are going 19 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: to say it's all climate change. But it's a cold, 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: cold night out there no matter what. So we'll talk 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: talk about what you did today. Were you ready for it? 22 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: I wasn't, that's for sure. But we'll get to all 23 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: of that a little bit later on. And then there 24 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: is a development on that church in Dedham that had 25 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: the ice was here sign at the Nativity scene. The 26 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: Boston Archdiocese has spoken out about that. We'll get to 27 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: all of that tonight at ten o'clock and then we'll 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: have a twentieth hour. Not exactly sure we're going to do, 29 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: but I suspect it might be weather related. We'll figure 30 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: that one out. We have four guests coming up, and 31 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: first off, we're going to start with Brian Earl. Brian 32 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: is the author. His latest book of Christmas is Long 33 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: Long Ago. Brian, Welcome to nightside. 34 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 3: How are you doing great? Thanks for having me Dan, 35 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 3: and early Merry Christmas to you. 36 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, early merry Christmas to you as well. Your name 37 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: was printed here as Early, but I double checked and 38 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: looked at the book and it is simply Earl. 39 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 4: So early, but I'm not Brian Early. 40 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: Yes, that's good. Well, that's good to know. So look, 41 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: all of us, however old we are, remember Christmases and 42 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: Christmas has certainly changed over my lifetime. But you know this, 43 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: the tradition of Christmas obviously dates back to a year 44 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: over two thousand years ago that Christians believe in Christmas. 45 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: When was Christmas first celebrated, either you know, as a 46 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: secular holiday or as a religious holiday? How long has 47 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: Christmas been celebrated in any form of fashion? 48 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: The first records we have are from a church calendar 49 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: marking the observance of December twenty fifth as honoring the 50 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 3: birth of Jesus in the year three thirty six, which, 51 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: if we're keeping count, and if that is accurate, we 52 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: are about to celebrate Christmas number one thousand, six hundred 53 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: and eighty nine in terms. 54 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but again and helped me out here. I was 55 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: taught in an elementry school we called it in those days, 56 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: a grammar school by the nuns when we were young. 57 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever had that experience, but 58 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: it's one that you will always remember for the rest 59 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: of your life. You know that the entire calendar that 60 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: we live by is based upon the birth of Jesus, 61 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: and that you know, it just so happened that's December 62 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: twenty fifth, and that he only lived for thirty three 63 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: years before he was crucified. But you know, BC's before 64 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: Christ and Anodomino is the year of our Lord. So 65 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: you're not suggesting that that Christ was born in three 66 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: thirty six. That's that's the first time his birth was celebrated, 67 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: correct the. 68 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: Time it was, that's correct, right, So he was born 69 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: in what we now consider you're one of the Common Era, 70 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: died and was considered your thirty The gospels start showing 71 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: up several decades after that. I think John's is the latest, 72 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: coming around ninety, so we're already almost a century into 73 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: the of the Common Era. But for the first you know, 74 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: several hundred years, when Christianity is just forming, the birth 75 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: was not really necessarily even considered a very important story. 76 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 3: In fact, of the four canonical gospels Matthew, Mark, Luke, 77 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: and John, only two of them even tell the Nativity story, 78 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 3: and they both tell it in very different ways. And 79 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 3: it really isn't until we get to the fourth century 80 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: that it becomes an observance. And we don't really know 81 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: in those earliest days what that meant, how people celebrated it, 82 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: if it was a feasting day or not. We tend 83 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: to we see in later centuries how it evolves into 84 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: the version we know today. 85 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: Santa Claus sort of comes along. Santa Claus Saint Nicholas, 86 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 2: I think was introduced if my memory serves, and you're 87 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: the expert, I'm not, so don't embarrass me too badly. 88 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: In Germany, well, he was certainly popular in Germany. I mean, 89 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 3: Santa Claus is descended from a real historical figure of 90 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 3: Saint Cholas, and Saint Nicholas has his own set of traditions. 91 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, tonight is the Eve of 92 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: Saint Nicholas Day, which is still observed in many places 93 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: around the world, not America for whatever reason, on December sixth. 94 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 4: That was. Yeah, he died in the fourth. 95 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: Century, and over time his legend became sort of intermingled 96 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 3: with other cultural legends that we see places like Norway, Finland, 97 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: like you mentioned, Germany. All those things sort of get 98 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: added to the image that we now know today. And 99 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 3: it was really, believe it or not, the version that 100 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 3: we recognize that the guy in the flying sleigh with 101 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 3: the reindeer and the red firs is really mainly a 102 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 3: nineteenth century American invention. 103 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so you used the phrase common era, 104 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: which I believe is the politically most acceptable phrase. The 105 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: concept of ad ono domino seems to not be used 106 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: a common error refers to the time after the birth 107 00:05:59,560 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: of Christ. 108 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 4: Correct, that's correct. 109 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,679 Speaker 2: Okay, why did we all of a sudden, it seems 110 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: to me in the last twenty or thirty years. Segue 111 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: to the phrase common era. Where where do where does 112 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: that come from? 113 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 3: You know, I think you said it's it's the most 114 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 3: politically acceptable way. I mean, it means the same thing, 115 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: but I think you know, ad may be freighted with 116 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: meaning for some people. And think about to an earlier 117 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 3: point of yours. You were talking about the calendar that 118 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: we're all on. It's actually interesting because the calendar we're 119 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 3: on today is the Gregorian calendar, which is a sixteenth 120 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 3: century invention. Prior to that is the Julian calendar, which 121 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: some cultures still observe, which actually affects the date that 122 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: Christmas and all of the things surrounding it occur. So 123 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: in Russia, Christmas is recognized on January sixth. 124 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we think of that as a little Christmas. 125 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 2: I guess, probably exactly right. So let us talk so 126 00:06:54,920 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: it evolves and Santa Claus becomes a part of Christmas. 127 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: What in the nineteenth century you said. 128 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 4: No, it was actually. 129 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: The first time we see Saint Nicholas connected to Christmas 130 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: is around the time of the Protestant Reformation. So, like 131 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: I said, before Saint Nicholas had his own set of traditions, 132 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: he had no connection to Christmas for a long long time. 133 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: This was after in the Protestant Reformation, they wanted one 134 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 3: of the things they were protesting was idolatry or what 135 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: they saw is idolatry in the form of revering the 136 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: Saints in the Catholic Church. And so what they wanted 137 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: to have a Christmas gift bringer, and that was, believe 138 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: it or not, the Christ Child, and some cultures still 139 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: have that where it is the christ Kindle, the Christ 140 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: Child who delivers gifts on Christmas Eve. But or Saint 141 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: Nicholas rather was so popular that he was kind of 142 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: hard to get rid of, and people just basically snuck 143 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: him in, if. 144 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 4: You like, into the Christmas celebration. 145 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: Wow, how long have you studied? You answer questions so 146 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: directly and clearly. I'm very impressed. I talked to a 147 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: lot of authors and writers. Your latest book is of 148 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: Christmases long long ago. Is that newly released or has 149 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: that been sort of a book that's spent out for 150 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: a while. 151 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: No, that is new this year. 152 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: And to answer your question, I've been at this the 153 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: podcast Christmas Past, which introduced in twenty sixteen, So I 154 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: guess I can say I've been making a study of 155 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: this for just about ten seasons now. 156 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: And are you an author professionally? Do you write on 157 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: other issues or is your sort of your dissertation because 158 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: you seem to really know it inside and out, very. 159 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: Stroll and I'm always really quick to point out I'm 160 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: not a journalist, I'm not an historian. I don't have 161 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 3: academic credentials in this. I'm a storyteller. I wanted to 162 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 3: create a podcast. The story goes that back in twenty fifteen, 163 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: I was looking for the kind of podcast that I 164 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: ended up creating because it didn't exist, and I. 165 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 4: Said, Okay, well, I guess I'll try that. 166 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: And the aim was always to just talk to the 167 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: most knowledgeable people that I can find, and so over 168 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: the years, I mean, I've talked to the CEO of 169 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: the candy cane factory, I've talked to historians and professional 170 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: Santa Clauses and just and the great thing about Christmas 171 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: you mentioned before, how it just continually evolves that some 172 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 3: of the people making the changes to Christmas are still 173 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: with us today. As a matter of fact, this time 174 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 3: of year, you can't go into a store without seeing 175 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: all those popcorn kins. That's a fairly new thing. I 176 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: actually talked to the guy who started that and got 177 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: the whole and how that happened. 178 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: The big red buckets of popcorn. 179 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, exactly. 180 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: Wow, this this is great. You know, it comes across 181 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: your love of what you do. Not everyone who I 182 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: talked to four times a night, five nights a week 183 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 2: has the enthusiasm and the precision that you have, And 184 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 2: I really appreciate you. And maybe what we might do 185 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: is between now and Christmas some night, have you on 186 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: with us in one of our later hours where we 187 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: take phone calls from listeners. Oh people, Yeah, so we'll 188 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: I'll have my producer get back. But again, the book 189 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: is now available of Christmases Long Long Ago. Such a 190 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: great title. And you have been hosting the number one 191 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: Christmas podcast for ten years. I assume it's available on Amazon. 192 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 2: Is there any other way folks can get to it? 193 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 4: As they say, wherever books are sold, wherever. 194 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: Books are sold, And are you a massa? I'm looking 195 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: at the phone number here. You're six one seven is that? 196 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: Are you a Massachusetts native? 197 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I live in California. 198 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 3: Now I just heard your weather report. It is a 199 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: bone chill in fifty four degrees here in Sanday, California. 200 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: You know, I'll tell you this, the empathy that you're 201 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: going to feel through the phone lines here will be 202 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: non existent. But so you're a message you're born in 203 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: it's Stoughton, all right. All right, well, Brian Earle, thank 204 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: you very much. We'll get back to my producer get 205 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: back to you or to whomever represents you, and would 206 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: love to have you on some night and take some 207 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: phone calls. I think it would be a lot of fun. 208 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Merry Christmas. But we will talk 209 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: to you again before Christmas. 210 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 4: All right, take care now. 211 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: Thanks thanks very much. Now, of course, the holiday season, 212 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned, is the best time of 213 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: the year. I really do believe that. However, there are 214 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: hazards to the holiday season and holiday safety. And we're 215 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: going to talk with Gayo Petrillo coming up. She has 216 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: a book, Becoming Visible, Overcoming trauma based fears, phobias, and 217 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: self doubt. But we're also going to talk to her 218 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: about some of the mistakes that we might make, particularly 219 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: with young kids running around. And so we'll have some 220 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: instruction from Gayl Patrillo right after this on Nightside quick 221 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 2: break here and coming back on Nightside. 222 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray on. 223 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 4: Boston's news radio. 224 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: We'll go back. Everyone liked to introduce you to Gayl 225 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 2: Gail Petrillo. Welcome to Nightside. How are you this evening? 226 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 5: I'm well, Dan, thank you so much for having me 227 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 5: as your guest tonight. Happy holiday. 228 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: Well do you celebrate Christmas? 229 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 5: We actually celebrate both. My husband is Italian and I 230 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 5: am Jewish. 231 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: So happy well, Merry Christmas and Merry Christmas and happy Honicah. 232 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: I thank you. We're a family also that has on 233 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: both Christian and Jewish tradition, so I sort of I'm 234 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: not a happy holiday guy. I like to know what 235 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: people celebrate and I like to be more specific, so 236 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: that's just a little quirk that I have. Merry Christmas 237 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 2: to your husband, and happy Honica to you. So you 238 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: have written a book, Becoming Visible, overcoming trauma based fears, phobias, 239 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: and self doubt, and some of it involves, I guess 240 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: an accident that you suffered as a child. 241 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was a two and a half year old toddler. 242 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 5: I was a giggly, girly girl who loved going new 243 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 5: places and meeting new people. Took me to a mother 244 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 5: daughter tea party down the street at the neighbors and 245 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 5: it was nineteen fifty six. Tea was not the drink 246 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 5: of choice. Coffee was, and so as I climbed up 247 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 5: to the table to partake of the beautiful lace tablecloth 248 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 5: and so on, I reached for a fresh baked cookie 249 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 5: out of the oven was on all the time. Well, 250 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 5: I'll never do it again, because in reaching for that 251 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 5: beautiful tasty cookie, I knocked the forty cup pot of 252 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 5: fresh brewed coffee off the table in all over me 253 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 5: forty percent of my body was burned from my breast 254 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 5: to my navel thirty fourth degree burns to the bone, 255 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 5: and I was casualized for months. My mom and dad 256 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 5: didn't know if I would never die. 257 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: Well, that certainly qualifies you for advising people about what 258 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: not to do and not to do. And obviously, with 259 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: the holiday season going on, families of every background have 260 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: get togethers and parties and reunions and a lot of 261 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: that involves crowded kitchens, sometimes hot liquids, and little ones 262 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: running everywhere. What are some of the simple precautions that 263 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: people need to be certainly aware of and hopefully take. 264 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, so thank you for asking that first thing? First, 265 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 5: I say, make sure your smoke detectors are working. They 266 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 5: need to be replaced every ten years or more often 267 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 5: if they're the older battery kind. Make sure you have 268 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 5: a fire extinguisher in your kitchen, have a screen on 269 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 5: your fireplaces. Make sure you have your chimney cleaned every 270 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 5: year before you start lighting that fireplace. The other things 271 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 5: that you can do to be prepared is a sign 272 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 5: tasks in advance to individuals to make sure there aren't 273 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 5: too many cooks in the kitchen or at the stove. 274 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 5: Don't close with billowing sleeves, because they're easily able to 275 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 5: catch fire, especially if you have a guest. Hire a babysitter, 276 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 5: or maybe hire or sign spotters to keep the little 277 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 5: winds prowled and out of that kitchen. 278 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: Oh, great, great advice. Let me ask us. A year 279 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: ago I bought there's a product called the fire blanket 280 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: that I used to see advertised on TV. Not so 281 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: much more now, but essentially that if there is a 282 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: fire in the kitchen, the last thing you do is 283 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: throw water on it. It just will spread it. 284 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 6: Rap. 285 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: But these fire blankets. Never had to use them, thank god. 286 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: But they do you have any experience? I bought them 287 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: and gave one of my son's family, one of my 288 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: daughter's family, and they of course laughed. 289 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 6: At me, you know, but I think they did. 290 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, are they a valuable asset? Again, we're not here 291 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: to sell fire blankets, But is it is that something? No? 292 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely so. I don't have personal experience with it. 293 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 5: My husband is a twenty three year fire fighter or 294 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 5: fire chief. He's now retired. But that blanket is really 295 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 5: great because when you're dealing with a fire extinguisher, there's 296 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 5: a lot of make sure you do this, pull the 297 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 5: plug game, blah blah blah. Yeah, blanket will smother those 298 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 5: flames very quickly. Yes, and you're absolutely right. Do not 299 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 5: do not put water on a fire. It will spread it. 300 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 5: And so you take that blanket or towels or whatever. 301 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 5: And especially if it's a grease fire. Right you're pulling 302 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 5: the turkey out of the oven, and the grease from 303 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 5: the turkey splashes up and causes an oven fire, do 304 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 5: not throw water on it. That blank will squash that 305 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 5: fire really fast. 306 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad to hear that, because I'm going to 307 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: ask my adult children if they've kept the fire blanket near, 308 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: because they laughed at me, like, only it was one 309 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 2: of these only you would think about a fire blank 310 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: and it's like, well, you know, it's when you need it. 311 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 2: It's nice to have it. So I'm happy I'm going 312 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: to quote you on this one. Now, let's talk about 313 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 2: your book as a burn survivor and author of the 314 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: book Becoming Visible Overcoming Trauma based fears, phobias, and self doubt. 315 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: You said that you were two and a half when 316 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 2: you were badly burned. How long did it take you 317 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 2: physically to recover from that and how long psychologically? 318 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, so physically was probably about eighteen monthstical late with 319 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 5: seventy years. We never talked about my accident as a 320 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 5: family because back in the late fifties and sixties, it 321 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 5: was already laundry that you didn't air, and so I 322 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 5: was taught to put one foot in front of the 323 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 5: other and take day by day and not to survive, 324 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 5: which is what I did. I did not live. However, 325 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 5: I came out of holding only about four and a 326 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 5: half years ago, telling my story because the few people 327 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 5: won't hold it encouraged me that it was huming. And 328 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 5: I mean nobody hearing my seat and shaddy secrets. I'm 329 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 5: healing emotionally, and when we do that, we enabled your vulnerable. 330 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 5: We enable other people to decide to share their story 331 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 5: so they get the healing process as well. 332 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 2: I think we all have stories from our childhood, and 333 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: one that you have is pretty traumatic traumatic. I have 334 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 2: a a friend of mine whose son was badly burned 335 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: similar accident. It was like, you know, it was an 336 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 2: item on the stove, but he's recovered well, family's doing well. 337 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: I know it sounds to me like you suffered incredible 338 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 2: physical impact and trauma, and I congratulate you on overcoming that. 339 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 2: And how can folks get your book? I assume it's 340 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: available on Amazon, but anywhere else you want to direct 341 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: some of our listeners. 342 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 5: Oh, I appreciate that. Yes, it is available on Amazon. 343 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 5: It's also available for my publisher booklocker one, word dot com, 344 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 5: backslash one three eight. 345 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: Some authors have their own website, and some authors prefer 346 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 2: me to direct people to their website because sometimes people 347 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: would want to book personalized. If you do something like 348 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: that and you have a website that people can contact you, 349 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: feel free to share it with us. If you do, 350 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: we'll just direct them towards Amazon. Yeah. 351 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 5: No, I appreciate that I do have a website. I'm 352 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 5: a career in confidence coach as well as an author 353 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 5: and speaker, and my website is first spelled out fi 354 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 5: rst impressions plural the number one dot com, so first 355 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 5: impressions one dot com. 356 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 2: Thank you, As they say, you never get a second 357 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: chance to make a first impression anyway. Congratulations on your 358 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: success and your determination, Gail, and again, happy holidays, whichever 359 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 2: holiday it is, Christmas or Honikan. It seems like you 360 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: have the best of both worlds in your family, as 361 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: we have in ours. Thanks so much, Gail. 362 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 5: Thank you have a wonderful holiday, and thanks again for 363 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 5: having me as your guest. 364 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 2: You're welcome. Coming up on the other side of the news, 365 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: we're going to talk with a business strategist, Suzanne Castle, 366 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 2: about some new data that suggests that small businesses are struggling. Now, 367 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 2: I'm sure that like anything else, there's a lot of 368 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: small businesses that are struggling and a lot of small 369 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: businesses that are thriving. But we'll talk with Suzanne Castle 370 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: on the other side, and later on we're going to 371 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: talk about Simon mauls ex efforts to team up with 372 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: Cradles to crayon selp local kids this holiday season. Back 373 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: on Nightside right after the News at the bottom. 374 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: Of the hour, It's Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's 375 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: News Radio'd. 376 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 2: Like to welcome Suzanne Castle to our program. Suzanne, welcome 377 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: to Nightside. How are you this evening. 378 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 5: I'm fabulous, Thanks for having me back, Dan. I'm excited 379 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 5: to be here. 380 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: I like it when someone says they're fabulous. My godfather 381 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: last name was Castle. I never met him. He lived 382 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: in Panama and he had been a childhood friend of 383 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: my dad many many years ago. So whenever I hear 384 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: someone with the name of Castle, I always think maybe 385 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: somehow we're distantly related. So that's why I feel good 386 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 2: about this conversation. The conversation is going to talk about 387 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: small businesses, and it says that there's some new data 388 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: that says small businesses are struggling. Now, obviously that doesn't 389 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: mean every small business. What I know is that small 390 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: businesses are the backbone of this economy, and if small 391 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 2: businesses are struggling, we all should be concerned. What's the 392 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: what are the numbers suggesting? 393 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 5: Well, you're right, the data is real and it's affecting 394 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 5: nearly every single sector. We're seeing the sharpest private sector 395 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 5: job losses since early twenty twenty three. And small businesses, 396 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 5: which are defined by the ones fewer than fifty employees 397 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 5: or so, they're carrying the brunt of it. And I 398 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 5: think that there are probably three big forces that are converging. 399 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 5: There's the cost of capital has skyrocket. We know that 400 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 5: there's loans, there's credit line equipment financing for example. It's 401 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 5: more expensive and that's just going to squeeze cash flow. 402 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 5: But consumer spending has softened. People are making more cautious choices. 403 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 5: I don't know about you, but my family is too, 404 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 5: and that means slower payments and therefore tighter margins, especially 405 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 5: for small businesses. And Third, I think small business owners 406 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 5: are tired. They're exhausted. There's decision fatigue and it's draining 407 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 5: their strategic capacity. And when the brain is overwhelmed, owners 408 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 5: start to hesitate, so they delay decisions or maybe they 409 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 5: choose relative reactive cuts and that's going to hurt long 410 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 5: term stability. So I don't think it's necessarily one thing 411 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 5: that we're seeing. It's an economic squeeze, meaning an emotional 412 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 5: and a cognitive squeeze as well. 413 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: Now, Susie, don't be offended by this, but that is 414 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: a fairly dystopian view of the economy at this point. 415 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 2: Is this part of a normal business cycle or we're 416 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: sort of, in my opinion, caught between two economies. One, 417 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: we have the Biden of twenty twenty one to early 418 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, which I think the public got very 419 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: tired of. Now we have a Trump economy, which is 420 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 2: much more interesting in terms of tariffs come on, Tariffs 421 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: come off, the big beautiful tax bill so called, lots 422 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: of progress on some piece of talks in place around 423 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 2: the world. It's a very dynamic, a different feel this year, 424 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: putting aside the politics to of it. Whether you like 425 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: Donald Trump don't like Donald Trump. The economy right now 426 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 2: is churning. And I've seen some reports that say twenty 427 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 2: twenty six might be a real big bounce back year. 428 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 2: And I don't know what you're reading, but how does 429 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 2: it look for small businesses. Are they going to continue 430 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 2: the projections that things are only going to get worse 431 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: or are we looking at maybe a little bit of 432 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: a bounce back. 433 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 5: I personally think that we are going to see a 434 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 5: bounce back. But I do think there's some because I 435 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 5: think that small business owners are in survival mode, and 436 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 5: I think even when things are good, there's the survival 437 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 5: instinct in the small business world, and so there is 438 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 5: a little bit of that panic vibe going on, especially 439 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 5: among small business and that's what's leading the narrative. If 440 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 5: you turn on the news anywhere, maybe not on your show, Dan, 441 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 5: but everywhere else. That's what's leading the headlines is the 442 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 5: up and the down, and the up and the down. 443 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 5: If you're a small business owner, you just don't even 444 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 5: know where to turn. Should I be cutting? Should I 445 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 5: be staying the course? Should I be investing here? When 446 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 5: when investment is really hard to do right now? So 447 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 5: I think you have a lot of topsy turbiness and 448 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 5: that's hard to navigate as a small business owner. 449 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: Well, the early numbers that I'm seeing from the Christmas 450 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: season is that this Christmas season might be breaking a 451 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: lot of records that this might be a trillion dollar 452 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 2: Christmas season. I don't know, you know obviously what the 453 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: ultimate number will be, but it would seem that with 454 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 2: the stock market in better conditioned, maybe as good condition 455 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: as it's ever been. I realized not everybody's invested in 456 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: the star mark in the stock market, but there are 457 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,959 Speaker 2: a lot of people invested in the stock market, and 458 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: a lot of people who are invested in the stock 459 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 2: market are saying maybe they can, maybe I can spend 460 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 2: a little bit more. I mean, it's it's not all dystopian, 461 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 2: is what I'm trying to get at. And I'm just 462 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 2: hoping that the points, the economic points that will that 463 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 2: will start to take priority, will be ones that will 464 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: turn the economy in a better direction than it's been 465 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 2: going for the last few years. Obviously, we went through 466 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: COVID and and that was a tremendous blow to the economy, 467 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 2: tremendous blow to the educational particularly the the the the 468 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: school systems. 469 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 6: Uh. 470 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: A lot of kids have have lost time, uh and 471 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 2: and somehow, some way those those losses have to be 472 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: made up. I'm I'm just always optimistic that tomorrow is 473 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: going to be better than yesterday. Am I am? I 474 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 2: looking at this whole thing with rose colored glasses. 475 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 5: I don't think so, because I'm advising my clients to 476 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 5: stay visible, and I think that's where the sweet spot 477 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 5: is because visibility in this climate, I think it's everything, 478 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 5: and it's often the first thing that owners big or 479 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 5: small cut when they're feeling overwhelmed. So for example, trust 480 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 5: and loyalty and connection, that's always recession proof. People want 481 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 5: to buy local, they want to support familiar faces. That's 482 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 5: where small businesses shine. So when the community feels like 483 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,239 Speaker 5: they know you, they want to choose you first, and 484 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 5: especially even when money is tighter, they want to give 485 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 5: to the mom and pop for example. So I look 486 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 5: at it like visibility is not marketing activity. It's a 487 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 5: survival activity. So if you're feeling to pinch, for example, 488 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 5: do more visibility. If you're not feeling to pinch, do 489 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 5: more visibility. I think visibility is always creative, and I 490 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 5: think it's where the magic is really lying right now. 491 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: The other thing too, that I'm a huge believer in 492 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 2: an economist, nor do I play one on the radio, 493 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: but I followed the economy pretty closely. One of the 494 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: things is that I try to stay away from big 495 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: box stores. I would prefer to go to a small 496 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: local hardware store when I need something. Okay, I may 497 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: pay a couple of extra dollars, but it's going to 498 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 2: help that local hardware store. Also, if I can buy 499 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 2: something locally as opposed to going on the internet, and 500 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: I can go to a brick and mortar store, I'm 501 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 2: hugely in favor of that because they are my neighbors, 502 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: the people in my community. I just think that that 503 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: mindset has to, in my opinion, come much more to 504 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: the four. I had a bad experience in October with 505 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: some company that I was trying to buy something from. 506 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: Turned out it was a company in China, and I 507 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 2: was getting notifications about where the product was with notes 508 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: in Mandarin, and believe it or not, I don't speak 509 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: or read Mandarin. And I just said to myself, I'm 510 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 2: done to whatever extent I can be with the Internet. 511 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: I'm done, and I'm going to go not to the 512 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: big stores but to the small stores. And you know what, 513 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: you feel better about yourself when you do that as well, well. 514 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 5: And I think that's some of the creativity I'm seeing, 515 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 5: And honestly, that's where I'm inspired. When you see smart 516 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 5: business owners. They shift from the from the complexity that 517 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 5: we kind of see a lot to creativity. So so 518 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 5: you might see shared pop ups between the mom and 519 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 5: pops together that are on the same street, right, two 520 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 5: or three businesses they come together, and a gym might 521 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 5: partner with a juice bar on the same street, for example. 522 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 5: And when you start doing things like that, you're not 523 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 5: only driving traffic to both businesses. People see each other 524 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 5: at each location, like, Hey, Bob down the street, I 525 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 5: didn't know you went to that gym. So you're starting 526 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 5: conversations in your community, but you're also helping each business. 527 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 5: And I really think that that's going to be the 528 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 5: key to the American economy, especially and especially when you 529 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 5: really want to have ownership and you want to help 530 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 5: your community thrive. That's where we need to be spending 531 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 5: our dollars. 532 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: You bet you, Suzanne Castle, thank you so much for 533 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: your time. Is there some way most folks who come 534 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: on the show like to have us send people to 535 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: their website? How can my listeners benefit from your knowledge 536 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: and expertise? 537 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 5: You know, I spend a lot of time on LinkedIn. 538 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 5: People can find me there or just go to my 539 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 5: website Susianncastle dot com and I appreciate spending some time 540 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 5: with you this evening. 541 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 2: Right back at you. Who knows we might be distantly related. 542 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: You never know, Susanne. Great, thank you, we'll talk again. 543 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas, have a great night, Have a great night. 544 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: We're coming up on the other side. A little bit 545 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 2: of a break here, and then we're going to talk 546 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: to Alan Smith. He's the general manager of the south 547 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: Shore Plaza, big shopping center down in Braintree, right off 548 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: of one twenty eight and that whole neck of the woods. 549 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: And we're going to talk about Simon Mall's teaming up 550 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 2: with Cradle de Crayons to help local kids this holiday season. 551 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 2: Always a positive story. Coming back on night Side. 552 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on w BZ, Boston's 553 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: News Radio. 554 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,959 Speaker 2: Delighted to be joined by Alan Smith. He's the general 555 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: manager of the south Shore Plaza, Alan Smith, Welcome to Nightside. 556 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 6: Hey, thanks for having me, Dan. 557 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: So tell us about Simon Mauls has a good reputation. 558 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: They have worked with Crayons, Cradles to Crayons before. Explain 559 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: to this how this works and how individuals can contribute 560 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,479 Speaker 2: and support the effort. 561 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. So we've worked with Cradles Crayons for a number 562 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 6: of years. Uh, the relationship has grown. 563 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:39,959 Speaker 2: Uh. 564 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 6: They're actually in nine Simon properties this year between Massachusetts 565 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 6: and New Hampshire. Uh. It's literally one of the best 566 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 6: things we do all year. You know, it's the holidays. 567 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 6: It's about you know, giving back more than it is 568 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 6: about receiving. And so each property has a giving tree 569 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 6: and each tree has tags on it with items that 570 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 6: are being requested by children in the area. Might be 571 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 6: a warm winded coat, might be a sweater, pair of boots. 572 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 6: So you can go to the tree, pick out a 573 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 6: tag or a couple of tags, purchase those items and 574 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 6: then bring them to the drop off location at that 575 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 6: particular property and just you know, don't wrap it, you know, 576 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 6: just in the bag with the tag, and you know, 577 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,719 Speaker 6: then Cradles Crayons will come and pick them up and 578 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 6: make sure they get delivered to that child. 579 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: So that's a pretty efficient system. So just to make 580 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 2: it clear, you go to as Sigmon Wall and again 581 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 2: obviously you're the general manager and brain Tree do you 582 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: have do you have responsibilities in other malls or do 583 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: we then? Are they nine general managers or you an 584 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 2: over over general manager and uber general managers. 585 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 6: There's, there's, there's, there's nine separate general managers. The entry 586 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 6: keeps me busy. 587 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 2: Enough, fair enough, No, I get that, I understand that. 588 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 2: And some of the other malls. Let's let's plug the 589 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: other malls so people will know that they may not 590 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: have to drive all the way to Braintree if they 591 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: live in New Hampshire. Give us some of the other locations. 592 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, so mall at Rockingham Park and Salem Mall 593 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 6: of New Hampshire. Uh, Peasant La Mall in Nashua, uh, 594 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 6: and Merrimack Premium Outlets, the New Hampshire properties. 595 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: Okay, and what about the other Massachusetts properties besides Braintree. 596 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, so in Massachusetts, Uh, you know, besides south Shore Plaza, 597 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 6: we have Square One Mall, Burlington Mall, uh, Chestnut Hill 598 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 6: renth them uh. And uh, I believe Cape Cod is 599 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 6: the other one of those. 600 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. I know, I'm precious a little bit. And I 601 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: don't know. 602 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 6: They can just go to the website for their Simon 603 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 6: mall and the information will be on there for them 604 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 6: to be able to, you know, uh, the how they 605 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 6: can go to their local mall and participate in the. 606 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: Program, and so do families who are you know, maybe 607 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: looking for a little bit of help. Do they fill 608 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 2: out the forms or you know, the request or is 609 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: that done by Cradle the Crayons who hang those requests 610 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: on a Christmas tree and then it's up to the 611 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: shoppers to find a tag that they'd like to fulfill 612 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 2: the wish of the child. 613 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, so Creative Crayons works with the families, uh, to 614 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 6: you know, put together the lists of what the needs are. Uh. 615 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 6: They provide us with the tags. We make sure that 616 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 6: we you know, continue to replenish the tree. But the 617 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 6: tags have the name of the child and you know 618 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 6: what they requested as you know, an item or items, 619 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 6: and you know, it's just a great way. Actually, just 620 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 6: a great story. Happened tonight as I was leaving work 621 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 6: and it had been long, you know day, it's the 622 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 6: end of the week, you know, looking forward to going home. 623 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 6: And as I was exiting the mall office it's a 624 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 6: long corridor, you know, these two young girls came down 625 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 6: and I was like, you know, kind of thinking like okay, 626 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 6: maybe I'm not going home right this minute, but I said, oh, 627 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 6: can I help you with something. They're like, yeah, we're 628 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 6: just looking to drop off these gifts for cradles to crayons. 629 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 6: I'm like, oh great, yeah, we have you know, the 630 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 6: drop off boxes right over here. So they had a 631 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 6: couple of questions like what do we do with the tags? 632 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 6: And you know, they were probably about fourteen years old, 633 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 6: and you know, so helped them out so that they 634 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 6: could get that done. And then they said, can we 635 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 6: ask you a question? I said sure. They said, is 636 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 6: does the clothing go to the person whose name is 637 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 6: on the tag? I said, yep, that's absolutely how the 638 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 6: program works. And they were so touched, you know that 639 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 6: the you know, time that they had taken their money 640 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 6: that they had spent to be able to provide a 641 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 6: gift to the person who's name was on that tag, 642 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 6: you know, was actually going to get that gift. So 643 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 6: literally made my whole week. 644 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 2: Well, I think that story really does explain clearly what 645 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 2: it's all about and that people are able to say, Okay, 646 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 2: look I can afford to buy this gift for a child. 647 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 2: I don't know the child, but by buying that gift 648 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 2: and you can figure out what story you can get 649 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 2: the gift at, you then leave it there at the mall, 650 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 2: so you don't have to wrap it, you don't have 651 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 2: to drive it somewhere. Cradles for Crayons takes care of 652 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 2: the wrapping and the transportation. Obviously, there's a variety of 653 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 2: of outlets and stores and on in one of these malls. 654 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when I go to a mall, 655 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 2: I like Glaze, I have no idea where I am. 656 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 2: I'm a typical guy. It's like I know my way 657 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 2: around Fenway Park, and I know my way around Jillette 658 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 2: Stadium and the Garden. But in the mall, it's just 659 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 2: it all sort of overwhelms me. But when you think 660 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 2: that you take a few minutes out of your trip 661 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 2: to the mall in which you're taking care of your 662 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 2: family and friends, and to help someone who may not 663 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: have that support system that you and your family have, 664 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 2: it's got to be a great feeling, particularly for young teenagers, 665 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 2: to this might be the first time in their life 666 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,959 Speaker 2: that they've bought something or contributed to an effort that's 667 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 2: outside of their family. So that was a great story, Alan, 668 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 2: I appreciate that clarification. 669 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 6: They helped to make a difference in the life of 670 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 6: the child. So I mean, there's nothing better that you 671 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 6: can do than to make a difference in a child. 672 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've also probably that story itself will be 673 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 2: remembered tomorrow by a lot of customers who go into 674 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 2: signed the malls and they'll see the giving trees and they'll. 675 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 6: They'll coming to the mall anyway you're shopping anyway, you know, 676 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 6: if you're buying for your own kids, great opportunity to 677 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 6: just pick something up for another child that you know 678 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 6: maybe isn't quite as fortunate, and just drop it off 679 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 6: at the you know, donation box and like you said, 680 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 6: cradles crans will take care of all of the rest 681 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 6: of it and make sure it gets to that child 682 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 6: who can really use those items. 683 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 2: Sounds great, Alan, thank you very much, Thank you for 684 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 2: thank you for joining us. Tonight has been It is 685 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 2: now the end of a very long day and a 686 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 2: long week foroy you hope you get a good weekend 687 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 2: and a little bit more. Okay, Thanks Alas. 688 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 6: And I appreciate you having me on to talk about 689 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 6: the program. 690 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Alan Smith, the general manager of the 691 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 2: Self Shore Plaza uh talking about a great program that 692 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 2: Simon Malls makes available to all of us through cradles 693 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 2: to crayons that eventually make the holiday season a little 694 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 2: brighter for some young kids who maybe need a little 695 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 2: light at this time of year. We will be back 696 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 2: right after the nine o'clock news and we're going to 697 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 2: talk about the cold weather today. Very rarely do we 698 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 2: talk about weather, but I would like to get some 699 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 2: of you to explain how you face this day. I 700 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 2: spent most of the day in the house, I was 701 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 2: out for a while. I'll explain my day, and I 702 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 2: hope you'll share your day with us as well. My 703 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 2: name's Dan Ray. This is night, so I were coming 704 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 2: back right after the nine o'clock news on a Friday night, 705 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 2: A frigid Friday night.