1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome to a Sunday nightcap, well not 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: really a nightcap. At seven o'clock Gary Jeff Walker, and 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: from Mike camp Junior. This evening news of the day 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: includes a Reds victory over the Red Sox. The Reds 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: now two and one on the season. It's not wire 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: to wire, but better than one and two, better knowing three. 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: And the Suarez trade finally has paid off with the 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: three run jam in the sixth inning that was the 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: margin of victory for your Red Legs. And baseball action 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: continues this week at Great American Ballpark, right here on 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: the home of the Reds. Earlier today, Michigan ripped Tennessee's 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: heart out showed it to them just before they died 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: by more than thirty points. In Yukon and Duke are 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: going at it right now in the Elite eight. The 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: other news of the day is actually old news, but 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: current news and future news. Jesus Christ is still the 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: King of kings and the Lord of lords and the 18 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: savior of all mankind. That's the good news, and there's 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: so little good news out there to talk about. Some 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: of the other news out there. For a few minutes 21 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: is my friend John Gordon, host of The Truth with 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: John Gordon. He's an attorney of businessman, a radio host, 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: a previous guest of mine multiple times, and also a 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: professional pilot. So we will get into the conversation right now, 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: John Gordon, thank you for holding on. It's great to 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: have you on the show again. And I've got to 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: ask you, John Gordon, after I say hello. 28 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: John, Hello, Garret, Jeff, how are you? 29 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: Thank you? Sir? 30 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 31 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: So, You've flown single engine, twin engine, You've flown jets, 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: helicopters over three thousand hours in the air, if that's correct? 33 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: Is that correct? 34 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: All right, sir? So for somebody like me who's never 35 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: sat behind the stick of any kind of aircraft, I 36 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: have been marveling ever since the beginning of Operation Epic 37 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: Fury and even before that, and our military pilots and 38 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: how skilled they are in these high tech aircraft, and 39 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: how how much precision they have even as a pilot. 40 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: Does this marvel you as well? Does it? 41 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 42 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: I mean, let's talk about that for just a few 43 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: minutes and one it takes actually to not only stay 44 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: in the air, but at the same time you were 45 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: dropping precision coordinated missiles and bombs in hostile territory that 46 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what that's like. I have no idea 47 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: what that's like. Did you ever fly in combat? 48 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: Well, I've never flown in the military, so okay, my 49 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 3: knowledge is limited in that respect. The fact is is 50 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 3: that the pilot. I don't want to minimize their role 51 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: at all, because they're heroes and they put their lives 52 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: on the line. But what they really do is they guide. 53 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: And I don't even note the extent to which they guide. 54 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: But they sit in the cockpit of an airplane that 55 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: is basically a one giant computer. Sure, and all the 56 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: armaments are controlled by computers, and hence that's why the 57 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 3: precision has gotten to be as good as it is. 58 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: I don't think it will be long. 59 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: Before our airplanes are flown autonomously and that we can 60 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: go into. 61 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: The air without a pilot. 62 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: You know, I've got a Tesla automobile with full self driving, 63 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: and I can drive from West Palm Beach to downtown 64 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: Miami and not to touch the steering wheel, the accelerator 65 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: of the brake bother And it took some getting used to, 66 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: for sure, Because I'm a little I've been told that 67 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: I'm a little bit of a control freak. I disavowed that, 68 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: but anyway. 69 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: Control freak would. 70 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: That's why. 71 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: That's like what I'm bartending and I tell somebody I've 72 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: got to cut them off, and and the people who 73 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: are not abject alcoholics will say, Okay, I understand, you're 74 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: just doing your job. But the alcoholics will go, no way, 75 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm not drunk. It's kind of the same bro. 76 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: That. That's quite an analogy. I don't know. 77 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: The fact of the matter is I do like things 78 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 3: to be done correctly, so that might be where the 79 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 3: control issues come from. 80 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: But so you do. 81 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: But my hand is on the wheel, my foot is 82 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 3: at the red But it is just unbelievable. I mean, 83 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: when you get off ninety five in Miami, you go 84 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: through a series of very tight turns with roundabouts and 85 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: it's not intuitive at all, a lot of one way streets, 86 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 3: and the car just handles it beautifully and brings me 87 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: straight to the front door of wherever it is I'm going. 88 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 3: And so aircraft have advanced hugely in the last ten years. 89 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: Cyrus has a jet called the Vision Jet that will 90 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: actually fly to the nearest airport by itself and land. 91 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: Now that is a huge advancement in safety. Because the 92 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: jet that I fly is called an Eclipse Jet. It's 93 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: a twin engine, single pilot, very light jet goes to 94 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: forty one thousand feet and four hundred and twenty miles 95 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 3: an hour. It lacks that automation, and the plane was 96 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 3: introduced in two thousand, so in twenty six years there's 97 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: only been one fatality in that plane, and that was 98 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 3: the result of pilot incapacitation, we believe somewhere over South America. 99 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: We'll probably never know the full answer, but this auto 100 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: land button, you know, if you feel yourself starting to 101 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: get sick, you can hit the button. 102 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 2: It will look at. 103 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: The airports that are approximate to the airplane. It'll calculate 104 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: the fuel on board and the distance to the airfield, 105 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 3: and it will also make announcements over the radio to 106 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 3: alert other planes. And air traffic control is a phenomenon, 107 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: it really is, And so the military aircraft will have, 108 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 3: if it doesn't already, all of that automation, and the 109 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 3: pilot really becomes a monitor, much like I'm monitoring the 110 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 3: Tesla on the five to Miami. 111 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: Well, particularly in this operation, we have seen the explosion, 112 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: not that it's new, but the explosion of dronewear warfare 113 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: where there are no pilots involved, at least in the air, 114 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: and so yeah, it is kind of the wave of 115 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: the future. I understand that, but I'm still and it's 116 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: not even a control freak in me. I am still 117 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: reticent to have a self driving automobile, for example, as 118 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: you described your Tesla, because if it can be controlled remotely, 119 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: then that can kind of control where you wind up 120 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: going if you know there are darker powers in charge, 121 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: or if you get hacked, for example, your computer gets hacked. 122 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: And that's what I am concerned about, because we're not 123 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: at the stage where everything is perfect technology yet and 124 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: there are blips. I mean, almost everything on this radio 125 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: station except for me and you on the phone line 126 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: right now, is computer generated on a hard drive, and 127 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: it has hiccups all the time. And now if those 128 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: hiccups are not on a radio show but in the 129 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: air at thirty thousand feet or whatever, it's just embarrassing. 130 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: If it happens here where there's a hiccup or there's 131 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: a glitch, or the software just decides to crash randomly, 132 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: it's not that big a deal. But if you're in 133 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: the air, especially in a combat theater, and the system 134 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: takes a dump, you're pretty much screwed right. 135 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: Well, and. 136 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: Potentially people on the ground that are not intended to. 137 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: But it's not ready for prime time yet. But we're 138 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: getting there. And this serious vision jet that I described, 139 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: and that's not the only one now is tried and true. 140 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: I mean it's there. 141 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 3: I'm not aware of any hiccups in that regard, and 142 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: it has saved lives. 143 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 2: I've read just the other day where. 144 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 3: A lady's husband piloting the plane became ill and she 145 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 3: hit the auto land button and she and her son 146 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: and her husband were safely flown to the airport and landed. 147 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 3: So it's here. It's not perfect, and the Tesla's not 148 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: perfect either. It's not approved for full autonomous. I mean 149 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: you can't sleep, you can't read, and god forbid you 150 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 3: try and text. The camera inside the car knows that 151 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 3: you're texting, and it will this able to autopilot and 152 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 3: give you a strike. You get five strikes, they take 153 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: it away from you for a month and put you 154 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: in the penalty box. So it's not fully deliverable, but 155 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 3: it's so close, and I think it will be level 156 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 3: four autonomy by this year. They're level three now and 157 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: at four is right around the corner. 158 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: Gary Jeff talking to John Gordon from the Truth. With 159 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: John Gordon, let's switch gears and talk about what President 160 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: Trump did. I know you've been a President Trump's supporter 161 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: as am I, and you don't agree with everything he 162 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: does or says. We've covered that. What did you think 163 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: about his decision to use the extra big beautiful bill 164 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: money to go ahead and pay TS agents since Congress 165 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: obviously is operating in their usual state of inertia with 166 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: you know, funding the agency that's designated to keep Americans 167 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: safe and TSA of course under that umbrella with THHS. 168 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: What did you think about that decision on Thursday they're 169 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,119 Speaker 1: finally going to get some paychecks apparently. 170 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, does your company pay you every Friday 171 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: or every other friday? 172 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: Work you do? 173 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: I hope? 174 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,359 Speaker 2: So? Yeah. 175 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm thinking they've got a pretty good track record, 176 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: and I don't think you'd stick around if they didn't. 177 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: These people are employed to protect us, to protect the 178 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: safety of airlines, and I you know, I it sounds 179 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: partisan and I'm not intending it to be partisan. 180 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: It would not matter what name you affixed to these people. 181 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: But the Democratic Party has lost their minds and they 182 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: have shown that they're willing to stoop to no known 183 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: lows to get their way. And I think it's just 184 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: deplorable to put the American people at risk and mistreat 185 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: the people that are there working to keep us safe. 186 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 2: You know, some of these people. 187 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: Have resorted to sleeping in their car because they can't 188 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: pay their rent. 189 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: They're facing the john, they can't feed their family. 190 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: Exactly. And what. 191 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 3: Drives these people to make such reckless, heartless decisions is 192 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 3: beyond me. And why they're not extinct. I think they're 193 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 3: going extinct. 194 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 4: But there is a. 195 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 3: Segment of our society that thinks that getting the money 196 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: that you've worked for and saved and invested in, they 197 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: want it and they're coming to get it, just like 198 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: mndamie is proving in New York. It is communism, and 199 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,239 Speaker 3: it's not Republican and Democrat anymore. It's not liberal, conservative, 200 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 3: it's not gay or stray eight, it's not whatever. It's 201 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: just the haves versus the have nots, and the have 202 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 3: nots are coming for what we've worked for. 203 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: I'm sorry that's what I believe. 204 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: No, I agree with you one hundred If I could 205 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: agree with you one thousand percent, I would, But that's 206 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: mathematically impossible, sir, John. 207 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 3: Let me get my wife on the line real quick. 208 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 3: Would you please shore her to understand that concept. 209 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: She lives with you, and she doesn't understand that this 210 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: other party that's not currently in charge crazy. 211 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: No, No, not that part. Just be agreeing a thousand 212 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: percent on any. 213 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: Good luck with that. I don't think I'm I don't 214 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna be able to convince her of that, John, but. 215 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: Me either, after forty eight years of trying well, and. 216 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: I had this discussion just this last week with somebody. 217 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: I went through a litany of things that were absolutely 218 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: just crazy, and they all were attributed to what used 219 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: to be called the Democrat Party and the things that 220 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: were common sense, which are attributed to mostly Republican and 221 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump agendas. And it was so stark. I mean, 222 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: from transgender to child mutilation to you just tick down 223 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: the list. It's all nuts. It's not and you're right, 224 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: it's not Democrat Republican anymore. It is crazy just for 225 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: the sake of chaos, and it's common sense just because 226 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: it's common sense, and you can go through any of 227 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: these issues, and they're not all just eighty twenty issues. 228 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: Some of them are, as the President said, ninety nine 229 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: to one issues, and yet they choose to die on 230 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: that hill. Well, and the troubling thing is, because of 231 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: election history in this country and just because of attrition, 232 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: it's very possible those crazy people and their base could 233 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: be in charge of our government come November in the midterms. 234 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 3: Well, look, we lost a Republican safe seat in Palm 235 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 3: Beach County last week. I saw that John Maples, the 236 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: Republican I mean the Republicans that were registered forty two 237 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: percent I believe, to the Dems twenty two or three, 238 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 3: and then independence made up thirty some odd percent, and 239 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: John Maple's. 240 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: Lost by a thousand votes. 241 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: Now I'm just reading today that there is more than 242 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: a suspicion of election fraud. They actually caught a Democrat 243 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: volunteer with an election machine key. I think it was 244 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: that see a fob that gave them access to the 245 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: whole voting system. I believe it is a developing story 246 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: right now, so I don't know the. 247 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: Particulars, but it's very alarming. 248 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: But The real point is whatever happened in terms of 249 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 3: the election fraud, Republicans nevertheless did not come out in 250 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: droves to vote. 251 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: And that is something that. 252 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: We have got to cure, and cure in a hurry, 253 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: because the midterms are right around the corner. And I'm 254 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: telling you, if the Dems get control of the Congress 255 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: and the Senate. 256 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: We are in a world of hurt. 257 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: I mean, just look at the obstructionism they're able to 258 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: do now, and imagine what they'll do if they get 259 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: a majority in either of those houses. 260 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: And they will have absolutely no problem at all with 261 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: so called nuking of the filibuster and passing all kinds 262 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: of crazy stuff with fifty one votes in the Senate 263 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: if they've got control of that body one. 264 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: Hundred percent, and there will be a third impeachment of President. 265 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: Trump, your watch to it. And that's not going to 266 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: help the country. It's not going to help anybody, but 267 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: it'll help the crazy people retain some semblance of power. 268 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: John Gordon The Truth with John Gordon is his radio show, 269 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: and I really appreciate your time as always, my friend, 270 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: and good luck with your wife. It sounds like it's 271 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: an intractable problem that's been going on for quite some time. 272 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: Well, people ask me how long have you been married? 273 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 3: I say forty nine years this September. 274 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 2: If we make it. 275 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: Good, good deal, take care of John. 276 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: I think we will. 277 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 3: I'd love for your listeners to tune in. You can 278 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 3: reach thus on Getter and Rumble, John Gordon Truth and 279 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 3: if you'd like to learn more, just come and subscribe 280 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: to our channel if you would YouTube throttles us. 281 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 2: They don't like conservatives over there. 282 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: All right, John, take care. I like you. That's the 283 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: only thing that matters. Katie Azure with just an incredible 284 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: human story coming up afternoons as we continue on this 285 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: Sunday evening, Gary Jeff Walker in tonight and for Mike 286 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: Allen Junior, our next guest this evening is someone I've 287 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: had on the show before and a story that so 288 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: touched me I felt it worthy of another conversation. In fact, 289 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: I could probably talk to this woman for hours, and 290 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: you would choose to listen or not. I guess, but 291 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: I hope you'll stick around for the next few minutes. 292 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: From my conversation tonight with Katie Asher. She is a mother, 293 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: she's an author. We're going to get into that. Her 294 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: book is the Book of Heaven, a story of hope 295 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: for the outcast, the broken, and those who lost faith. 296 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 1: She and her son Houston were recently on the Telepathy Tapes. 297 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: Telepathy Tapes and her son Houston was neurologically injured by 298 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: reaction to a vaccine when he was very young, diagnosed 299 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: with autism. He was nonverbal, and Katie was dealing with 300 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: what a lot of other parents have dealt with, but 301 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: to the extreme, and it got to a point where 302 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: she was just exhausted. She was left by herself, a 303 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: single mother, with this son who was nonverbal, totally non 304 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: responsive in any kind of practical way. If you're a parent, 305 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: you can imagine what that's like, especially if you're dealing 306 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: with it by yourself, and not only the acting out, 307 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: but the wiping of his own feces all over everything. 308 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: And she had come to the end of the rope 309 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: and she was lying on a couch as she described 310 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: it to me, and Katie, good evening. I'm gonna let 311 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: you continue the story right there to just catch up 312 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: folks on what happened in the miracle that truly occurred. 313 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 5: Well, and first of all, thank you so much for 314 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 5: having me again. I'm super happy to be here and 315 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 5: to share our story and ultimately hopes. But what happened 316 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 5: that day? At the time, I was at five kids, 317 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 5: I'm working three jobs, I'm a single mom. I had 318 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 5: a severely neurologically injured son who is his body is 319 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 5: extraordinarily difficult. And I laid down on the couch that 320 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 5: day and my body was basically buzzing. I was so exhausted, 321 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 5: I couldn't even sleep. And Houston came down and sat 322 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 5: at my feet, and very intentionally, which he had never 323 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 5: done anything like this before, he reached over and tugged 324 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 5: at the blanket, just like you would to get someone's attention, 325 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 5: and he spoke and he said, Mama. I was so 326 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 5: shocked to hear my son say my name. I opened 327 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 5: my eyes and he's looking directly into my eyes, which 328 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 5: he also hadn't done since he was an enfant before 329 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 5: he was injured. And he said, I loved you. And 330 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 5: that was the moment that I decided to believe in 331 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 5: hope and can't explain to anyone. And that is the 332 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 5: decision that all of us need to come to. 333 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 6: We need to. 334 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 5: Radically believe in hope and not believe in our circumstances, 335 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 5: but shift our mindset to the impossible, shift our mindset 336 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 5: to our imaginations, to the promises of God, and really 337 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 5: let loose the faith. 338 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 6: That is within us well. 339 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: And there were things that began to occur after that point, Katie. 340 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: Once you had, once you had a belief and hope, 341 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: and once this breakthrough had happened with Houston, he was 342 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: able to quote scripture that he'd never been exposed to. 343 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: He was he was saying things that he had no idea. 344 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: You had no idea how he would even know these things, right. 345 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 5: I So that moment began with faith, and I do 346 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 5: want to emphasize how critical faith is to this part 347 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 5: of our journey. And so for almost five years I 348 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 5: just held on to that one miraculous moment. 349 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 6: And then we we learned. 350 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 5: About spelling to communicate, which is a way to help 351 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 5: train their motor so they can point reliably spell out 352 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 5: what they want to say. And that's what we did, 353 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 5: and that's when. 354 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 6: Everything that we had been told, although. 355 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 5: There's no hope he's intellectually disabled, everything else came just 356 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,479 Speaker 5: crashing down all around us, and we find out he 357 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 5: was not only not intellectually disabled, was brilliant, and he 358 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 5: had spiritual gifts and as well as intellectual gifts that 359 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 5: the rest of us don't have. He could do complex math. 360 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 5: He was doing integrals and calculus only being taught single 361 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 5: digit editions. He was spelling and this is what you're referencing. 362 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 5: He can see time, so he can see things before 363 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 5: it happened. He has seen heaving with such vivid description 364 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 5: that he was describing scripture without ever having read it. 365 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 5: He was basically and he was describing it as somebody 366 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 5: who's a fitness to it, not as a I learned 367 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 5: this verse that I'm quoting it. 368 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 6: It was an. 369 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 5: Actual eyewitness account. Was so much incredible detail that was 370 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 5: and some of it was confirmed through scripture, but other 371 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 5: of it was confirmed through scientific study, where I'm I'm 372 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 5: like researching, how is this even possible? And I find 373 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 5: the actual scientific proof for what he's describing that I 374 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 5: didn't even know existence. 375 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: So as this is going on, you actually delved into it, 376 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: and you did do scientific research, and neuroscientists have studied 377 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: your son are They're very interested in what Houston has 378 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: has come to after this neurological injury that left you 379 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: with with almost no hope. Uh, and what have they found? 380 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: Have they been studying Houston? Have they what have they 381 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: said about what has happened in your life? 382 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 5: Doctor doctor Diane Hennessey Powell was the original scientist that 383 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 5: we worked with, and then her research has now been 384 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 5: per reviewed by doctor Marjorie wolf Tide. And then there's 385 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 5: scientist doctor Julia Mossbridge at Northwestern who's been doing incredible 386 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 5: work not just with my son, but with other non 387 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 5: speakers and some other scientists as well. And really what's 388 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 5: happening is they have discovered that the limitations that they 389 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 5: thought that essentially consciousness came from your own like being right, 390 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 5: that consciousness was a product of intellectual capacity that was 391 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 5: really required motors. 392 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 6: They're realizing that actually consciousness is the base of everything. 393 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 6: And of course that's what scripture says as well. 394 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: But it's not all it's not just biological. There is 395 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: a spiritual part of this, and. 396 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 5: That's the point that it is the whole point, because 397 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 5: everything material comes from spirit. 398 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 6: That's the whole point. 399 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 5: And in John one, what it says is that in 400 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 5: the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, 401 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 5: and the word wise thought all things were made to 402 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 5: him without nothing that was made was made. And then 403 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 5: it goes on to talk about how that He is 404 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 5: the light of the world and that we being create him, 405 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 5: have his light in. 406 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 6: Us, and that is the soul. That's what that is. 407 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 5: And when actually a human being is conceived, there's an 408 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 5: actual electrical spark that happens, and they don't have an 409 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 5: explanation for it. 410 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 6: They're like, maybe it's zinc, maybe it's this, we don't know, 411 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 6: it's something. 412 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 5: But it's exactly what John Wyne says it is. 413 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 6: It's him. It's being made in the image of God. 414 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 5: And that is where we have this capacity to perceive 415 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 5: and understand our surroundings and respond to them, and then 416 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 5: even more so, to be creators like he is, to 417 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 5: believe and to hope, and to change our lives and 418 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 5: our circumstances in our world by our mindset, by putting 419 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 5: ourselves fully into the mind of Christ and knowing what 420 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 5: his promises are and proceeding forward like scripture is one truth. 421 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: There is a spiritual battle, I believe that is going 422 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: on right now, and this world has been going on 423 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: for quite a while, and people who are not as 424 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: in touch with the spiritual realm as you obviously have 425 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: become through this experience. Maybe don't understand, or they pooh 426 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: poo it or or think that it's it's just some 427 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: kind of superstition or make believe things. But there are 428 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: spiritual forces I believe, as the scriptures tell us that 429 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: are that are at war right now, and they're at 430 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: war with God and they're at war with human beings. 431 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 5: Is that well, I would say that the greatest trick 432 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 5: that the devil ever you know, played was to convince 433 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 5: us all he wasn't real. And what we have to 434 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 5: understand is for most of human existence, everyone realized that 435 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 5: there was a spiritual realm and that there was this 436 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 5: thin veil between the material and the spiritual, and sometimes 437 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 5: that would, you know, the spiritual would intersect into the material. 438 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: But what. 439 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 5: Then when you have materialism, which is an offshoot of 440 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 5: humanism which started around seven hundred AD in India. This 441 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 5: basically was this whole idea that nothing was true or 442 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 5: real unless a human being like in our reason, could 443 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 5: both perceive it and explain it and understand it. So 444 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 5: then anything that became pat that was past our sensory 445 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 5: perception or outside of our ability to reason and understand it, 446 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 5: we would dismiss. And this is where we actually have 447 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 5: the enlightenment and the agent reason, which is and this 448 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 5: whole thing that And then you even see in church 449 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 5: they didn't just start teaching things as scriptures said them. 450 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 5: They were trying to teach them with the human reason. 451 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 6: As the basis. 452 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 5: That's a really dangous. 453 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 6: Place to go. 454 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: Oh and it's happening in some churches right now as 455 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: we speak, Katie turning to Katie Asher real quickly. I 456 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: got a couple of minutes here, Katie. I wanted to 457 00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: talk about this, this movement of euthanasia that is going 458 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: on in other countries. I mean, Canada has some form 459 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: of it. In the Netherlands, there was a teenager that 460 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: the state agreed with him to put him to death. 461 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: We're not talking about a terminal cancer patient in their 462 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: eighties or anything like that. This was a teenager. What 463 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: do you know about that story? 464 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 5: So he was between the ages of sixteen and eighteen. 465 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 5: We haven't been given a ton of details, but basically 466 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 5: he was diagnosed with some type of This is some 467 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 5: of you who by the way, he could fully communicate. 468 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 5: It wasn't like my son who is who had no speech, 469 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 5: he could fully communicate, and had sensory issues and new disorders, 470 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 5: and decided that life wasn't worth living and petitioned to 471 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 5: have his life ended for that purpose because he didn't 472 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 5: see his life was worth living. And what is horrific 473 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 5: is that the state itself reason that we give the 474 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 5: state any We have to go back. 475 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 6: To where does who has the authority the people? 476 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: Do? 477 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 6: All authority rest with the people. That's where the ability. 478 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 5: Government for governments to govern, the actual source of authority comes. 479 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 6: From the people. 480 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 5: They govern at the will of the people and so whenever. 481 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 6: And the whole reason for that. 482 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 5: Is to have a collection of power that can exert 483 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 5: more power than the individual in order to protect. 484 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 6: All of the people. 485 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 5: So the whole point. 486 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 6: Of it is protection. 487 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 5: That is the point of government is to protect, to 488 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 5: provide a way to defend against predators, to make sure 489 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 5: that there's industry enough so that people can fulfill their 490 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 5: own destiny and purpose. Like, that's the whole point of government. 491 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 5: And instead of protecting, this move has gone into this 492 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 5: place of actually taking life instead of protecting life. And 493 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 5: you have to wonder why, what would be the purpose 494 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 5: of a government to kill its youth. That is a 495 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 5: strange thing to even consider that you would think that's viable. 496 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 5: And I want everybody to not only know about the 497 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 5: young man and the Netherlands, but also a young woman insane. 498 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 5: And by the way, disproportionately it is more females that 499 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 5: sign up to have their lives taken by euthanasia than males. 500 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 5: I don't know if you'll know that, but that is 501 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 5: that's the reality. 502 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: It's shocking. Yeah, go ahead, just real quickly, we gotta 503 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: wrap up, Okay. 504 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 5: So basically, this young woman, she had a horrific crime 505 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 5: done to her and she wanted to kill herself. She tried, 506 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 5: she failed, she was paralyzed, and then she petitioned the 507 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 5: government to euthanize her. And that was her father tried 508 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 5: to stop it. 509 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 6: He was unsuccessful. She is now longer alive. 510 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 5: But the thing is, her attorney said she couldn't retract 511 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 5: this if she wanted to because her organs are already accounted. 512 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 5: Her organs at over eight million dollars man, man, So 513 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 5: what people say, and and this has happened in Canada. 514 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 5: Literally seven minutes after someone was euthanized, his organs were 515 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 5: extracted and being transplanated into another human being is absolute 516 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 5: evil and it must. 517 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: It's it's demonic. If you get a chance, check out 518 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: The Book of Heaven, a story of hope for the outcast, 519 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: the broken, and those who lost faith. The author is 520 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: Katie Asher and God bless you. Thank you for being 521 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: a part of our show. 522 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 6: Tonight, Katie, Thank you so much for having you. 523 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: Bet breaking back. Jim Ornacy coming up into another hour 524 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: of this quasi night camp on a Sunday night, garat 525 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: Jeff with you and for Mike Allen Junior. The government 526 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:19,959 Speaker 1: shutdown continues, and the government is left town. The people 527 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: that we're paying to represent us and do the things 528 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: that they're supposed to do in Congress is supposed to 529 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: fund the government. And you know, the Democrats owned this 530 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: until maybe the end of last week when the House 531 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: took up the Senate bill which would restore DHS funding, 532 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: get the TSA agents paid, and SISA and the Coast 533 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: Guard and other vital functions of the Department of Homeland Security. 534 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: And then the House said, now, maybe nah, maybe it's 535 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: the direction of President Trump more than likely. But the 536 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: Republicans had the Democrats on the hook for this because 537 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: I believe that people in this country had finally realized 538 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: the Democrats were the problem, and now they're all gone. 539 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: A guy who knows a little bit about how Washington 540 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: works or doesn't, because he spent some years up there 541 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: as a congressman from Ohio. He also is a very 542 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: successful businessman and a multiple offender guests on my shows, 543 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: Please welcome back Jim Ranesi. Hello, mister Raneesi, how are 544 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: you on this Sunday evening? 545 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 4: I'm doing great? How are you? 546 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: Would you agree with me that it was finally clear 547 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: that the Democrats were causing all of this chaos with 548 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: DHS funding, and then at the crucial moment this happened. 549 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know what people were thinking that I 550 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 4: will agree with you that right now, it's it's straight 551 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 4: on the Republicans lap. When you have a deal that 552 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 4: was cut by the Senate that had one hundred percent approval, 553 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 4: which means all of the Republicans and all of the 554 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 4: Democrats approved opening up everything except for Ice, and. 555 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: Which, by the way, Ice is already funded. 556 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 4: It's already funded, right, so it's already funded. So it 557 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 4: was pretty much a deal that I know Jim Ernacy 558 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 4: would have voted for because I do believe our coast 559 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 4: Guard and I do believe all these other functions need 560 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 4: to be paid. And yet the Speaker of the House 561 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 4: took the stand and said, oh no, no, no, no, 562 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 4: we're not passing anything unless we pass everything. And I 563 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 4: think that's a real mistake. But I got to tell you, 564 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 4: I'm a believer that somebody inside the system told him 565 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 4: to do that, because I just don't believe Speaker Johnson's 566 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 4: a strong enough speaker to have done that on his own. 567 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 4: And when I say that, I think that came down 568 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 4: from President Trump, who, by the way, has funded uh 569 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 4: you know PSAU the staff at these airports by shifting dollars. 570 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 4: So right, he probably he probably said, okay, well you 571 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 4: can get away with us. But you're exactly right. And 572 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 4: what the American people need to understand is, you know 573 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 4: the reason why everybody wants to go home this week 574 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 4: they all have codels. This is Codell Week in Washington. 575 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 4: This is when everybody travels all over the world. They 576 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 4: they have trips everywhere planned. 577 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: Oh so they're not they're not. They're not going home 578 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: to their districts to face the fire of their constituents, 579 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: their globe hopping. 580 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 4: Not yeh, that's right. Easter Week has always been codell week. 581 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 4: And I guarantee you now, I will say this, Jimernacy 582 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 4: never went on a codell. I never went on anything that. 583 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: Was I don't even know. I don't even know what 584 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 1: a codell is. Jim, you need to explain this. 585 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 4: To me, well, for your listeners and yourself. A codell 586 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 4: is a government funded trip. I do remember. Here's the 587 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 4: perfect example. One time I got offered an opportunity to 588 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 4: go to Africa. Now I'm on ways and means, and 589 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 4: I said, why, what, what purpose is it for Jim 590 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 4: Ernacy to go to Africa. Well, we're just going to 591 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,959 Speaker 4: go and meet with different countries. But you can bring 592 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 4: your wife, and you know, we get to see these 593 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 4: countries and talk to some of the governments over there. 594 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 4: That's a codell. And it's funded one hundred by the 595 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 4: federal government, which I believe was a problem when I 596 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 4: was in Congress, and it's a problem today but still 597 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 4: continues to happen. 598 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: So there's money in the government to fund these codels. 599 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: There's there's there's money in the government to pay the 600 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: Democrat and Republican senators and representatives, but there's not money 601 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,720 Speaker 1: to pay the TSA agents. 602 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 4: Well, exactly right, because they're all from pots. And the 603 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 4: answer is, well, that pot isn't funded, but this pot is. 604 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 4: And actually what President Trump's going to do is going 605 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 4: to rob from one pot to pay another one. I mean, 606 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,240 Speaker 4: it's a disaster. This kind of stuff should not happen. 607 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 4: It is one of the reasons why I do believe 608 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 4: elected officials are going to be in peril come November, 609 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 4: because most people are fed up with both sides right now. 610 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: Well, I certainly am, and I'm fed up with the 611 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: fact that people forget this all the time. It seems 612 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: like the American people don't understand how this system is 613 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: supposed to work. These people, i e. House of Representatives, 614 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 1: senators are our employees. They work for us. They seem 615 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: to think that we work for them, especially with as 616 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: egregious as the tax code. Even with some of the 617 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: revisions to the tax code that people are experiencing as 618 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: they fill out their taxes now or have they're seeing 619 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: a few more dollars left. But the fact is they 620 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 1: extract this money from our hard work, our labor, and 621 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: they're supposed to work for us, and it seems like 622 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: they're not working very hard for us. They're working just 623 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: fine for their party or themselves. But I don't think 624 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: the average American understands that part of our constitutional government 625 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: of civics is that these are our employees. And I 626 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: don't think that we should have to wait till November 627 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: to fire them. 628 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 4: Jim Well, I don't disagree with you, but that is 629 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 4: part of the constitution. And as you know, I always 630 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 4: do support the constitution. But I do think people need 631 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 4: to realize and they're not. I mean, the government is 632 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 4: not working for anybody right now but itself. You know, 633 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 4: we're in war. Those people that support Trump. I mean, 634 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 4: it's a it's a different world. It's an absolute different rule. 635 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 4: I should say it this way. When we were in 636 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 4: war in the past, most times the President didn't leave Washington, 637 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,439 Speaker 4: d C. Most times the House and Senate were still 638 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 4: in session in some form. That's even changed, Gerry, that's 639 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 4: even changed. President Trump is down in Marlana, Marlaga playing golf, 640 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 4: and the House and Senator is probably traveling all over 641 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 4: the world right now. 642 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 2: Now. 643 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 4: I'm not saying every one of them, but this is 644 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,280 Speaker 4: the problem with our system. 645 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: No in the luence in the instance you gave with 646 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: President Trump. There have been presidents in times of war, 647 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: during World War Two, during Vietnam, during Korea, during Afghanistan 648 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: where the president while we were at war wasn't in 649 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,959 Speaker 1: the White House or in the situation room all the time. 650 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 1: You're you're purposely focusing in on President Trump, uh and 651 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: not and not actually hearkening back to every other president 652 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: at times of military operations. Jim, that's not fair. 653 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 4: Well, I do believe that presidents were staying in Washington, 654 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 4: did you say. I mean, look, that has all changed 655 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 4: in the last few cycles. So I would disagree with you. 656 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 4: If you go back, you're gonna see even during times 657 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 4: of war, the president might have been a white House. 658 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 4: But that's what Camp David was all about. 659 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: Well, that's not Washington, DC, is it. That's not Well, 660 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: that's not Washington it is. It is another white house, 661 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: so to speak. But mar A Lago is just as 662 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 1: equipped to be another white House as Camp David. 663 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 4: Well, again, I'm not sure I would agree with you 664 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,280 Speaker 4: on Matt either. Again, one of the reasons why Washington, 665 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 4: DC is the center of our political power is so 666 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,479 Speaker 4: that people can stay there and be protected once they 667 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 4: leave they're not protected. Once the president leaves, you have 668 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 4: to set up a whole nother protection perimeter. Again, I'm 669 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 4: just telling you this is the problem with our system. 670 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,919 Speaker 4: This isn't about President Trump. All the presidents have done 671 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 4: it too. But you take a job in Washington to 672 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,839 Speaker 4: get things done, and if you're not frustrated in all 673 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 4: of them, including President Trump, you should be. Everybody should be. 674 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 4: We're not getting the job done anymore. 675 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: I think the power is too centralized in Washington, DC. Myself, 676 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 1: I'm one of those people that advocates for these other 677 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: governmental these bureauocratic departments, to be spread out around the 678 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: country and not be centralized in Washington, d C. 679 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 4: With that and one hundred percent, by the way, when 680 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 4: I was running for governor, I think that should happen 681 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 4: in Ohio too. I think even the state of Ohio 682 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 4: the state of Illinois are all the same. They all 683 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 4: centralize power instead of spreading it out so that it's 684 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,240 Speaker 4: part of the So I believe that the federal government 685 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 4: should be spread out throughout the country. I also believe 686 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 4: the state government should be spread out. It should be decentralized, 687 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 4: brings the power back to the. 688 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: People exactly well, I mean, is there anything else that 689 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,720 Speaker 1: you wanted to touch on in the in the next 690 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: couple of minutes, We've got you anything, I don't think. 691 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 4: I think the frustration every American, every one of your 692 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 4: listeners should be frustrated. They should be frustrated with everybody. 693 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 4: Right now, we're not getting things done. We're leaving town. 694 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,800 Speaker 4: We still have a government that's that is not fully funded. 695 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,879 Speaker 4: And quite frankly, we have people at war. We have 696 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 4: troops on the ground in the Middle East now not 697 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 4: in Iran, but you know there are troops now in 698 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 4: the Middle East on the ground, and I think this 699 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 4: is a very different time. And of course I just 700 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,240 Speaker 4: bought some gas. It was four dollars and ten cents 701 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 4: a gallon, so that's on its way up. We could 702 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 4: be Look, I'm very hopeful that President Trump is smart enough, 703 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,760 Speaker 4: which I believe he is, to get this all over 704 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 4: with quickly. Amen, Because the longer this war drags on, 705 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 4: the more problems Republicans are going to have in November, 706 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 4: but the more problems Americans are going to have paying 707 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 4: their bills as well. 708 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would tend to agree with that. What's wrong 709 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 1: with a federal law that requires is everyone who votes, 710 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: have a voter I D a real voter I D 711 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: photo And what about getting rid of what about what 712 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: about accepting rare circumstances, getting rid of the mail in 713 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 1: ballot too, because that is a prescription for fraud and rigging. 714 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 4: I would agree with that as well. Now I will 715 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,839 Speaker 4: tell you you and your listeners one of the one 716 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 4: of the things I learned was the problem with the 717 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 4: bill that seems to be getting tossed around down Washington, 718 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 4: the Save America Act, is that also if you have 719 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,439 Speaker 4: mail in voting, you had to send your I D in. Now, 720 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 4: I just want you to hear that and others to 721 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 4: hear that, because that does change the process. Most people 722 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 4: want to have a private and secure vote. They don't 723 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 4: want everybody knowing how they voted. But if you do 724 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 4: a paper ballot under the under the Save America Act, 725 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 4: you have to send a form of ID in with it, 726 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 4: which is one of the problems that people are having 727 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 4: in Washington with that. So I do think that's an issue. 728 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 4: But I also believe if you eliminate the paper ballots 729 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 4: for most reasons, accept emergencies troops that are overseas, that 730 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 4: will eliminate that as well, so you know the problem 731 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,280 Speaker 4: here is you and I can agree voter ID should 732 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 4: be required when you walk in you should show your ID. 733 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 4: But I also would believe that you and your listeners 734 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 4: and myself would agree you should not have to disclose 735 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 4: in a paper ballot that you are the one sending 736 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 4: in that paper ballot say voter I do. 737 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 2: I get you. 738 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 1: They can change that language and I'd be fine with it. 739 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 1: Jim Ornac, always fine with you, even when we disagree. 740 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 1: Thanks for the conversation. 741 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 4: Thank you, you have a good evening, all. 742 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: Right, Sunday supplement coming up and Willie later on tonight. 743 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,879 Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in till the next time. 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