WEBVTT - A Tu Hermano Tuesday (Hour 4) 11/4/25

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<v Speaker 4>on your home of the Clippers as the Dodgers season

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<v Speaker 4>something really.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to Critos. Bjay's our first Bjy's event of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>We took a lot of time between the summer tour

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<v Speaker 2>bigger the closer we get Matt. So that is Dave

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<v Speaker 4>final hour of fun fact? Did you know the famous

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<v Speaker 4>Main Street electrical parade did not start at Disneyland instead.

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<v Speaker 4>Disney I did not first, nor did I. The first

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<v Speaker 4>showing of all the places of the electric parade was

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<v Speaker 4>used to celebrate the opening of Disney's Polynesian Resort in

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<v Speaker 4>October of nineteen seventy one. It was their grand opening.

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<v Speaker 4>They had the electrical parade and everyone was like, it

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<v Speaker 4>was pretty cool, we should do this at Disneyland. Where

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<v Speaker 4>was the Polynesian Resort, I believe if I remember right,

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<v Speaker 4>I think the Polynesian was a like at a hotel

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<v Speaker 4>and all inclusive hotel. I don't know because thelan that

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<v Speaker 4>was neither. I'm sorry, but the new Verry Don McClain,

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<v Speaker 4>what's the new one called the Alain is on O Wahoo.

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<v Speaker 4>The new one is on O Wahoo. So maybe they

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<v Speaker 4>just updated the Polynesian Resort.

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<v Speaker 2>Which one's the one with a train.

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<v Speaker 4>That is on that is Yes. We had a guy,

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<v Speaker 4>I think on from Hilton or Marriott and I said,

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<v Speaker 4>how's that train and he's like, that's at our competitor.

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<v Speaker 4>That was the Marriott. I believe that has the train

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<v Speaker 4>on Kona.

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<v Speaker 2>Disney's Polynesian Village Resort is at disney World. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's in Orlando. So it's not on the island. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very merry on birthday to you. Well, all right, well

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<v Speaker 2>tell me about it. No, I guess that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it's been there since nineteen seventy one. So what

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<v Speaker 2>we just said it was the grand opening, so that

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<v Speaker 2>would line up. It's the Polynesian hotel resort kind of

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<v Speaker 2>thing that said disney World. So you always feel like

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<v Speaker 2>Disneyland's the og on everything, but not in this case.

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<v Speaker 4>No, but I'm very upset. I didn't know it was

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<v Speaker 4>like just a resort that was on the disney World property.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was like I ran all those lights

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<v Speaker 2>over to the island.

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<v Speaker 4>Mac got all excited because they got the big Disneyland

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<v Speaker 4>property over there that everybody goes to in Hawaii, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, maybe it was the original before

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<v Speaker 4>they updated it to the a Luna or whatever the

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<v Speaker 4>hell they call that thing. But now it's just a

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<v Speaker 4>just a hotel property. I might drive by it this, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>go check it out. Let the people know, Hey, all

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<v Speaker 4>use electrics where it started? Now we tell anyone right now,

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<v Speaker 4>idiot right here. I do know that down there they

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<v Speaker 4>have a hotel called the Contemporary where the monorail used

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<v Speaker 4>to go through the lobby in the middle. I remember that,

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<v Speaker 4>so I guess that vallad.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I want with my hotel. It's a train

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<v Speaker 2>going right to come through. Living with the Blues Brothers.

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<v Speaker 2>Still there, Matt, still there, look at that. It's time

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<v Speaker 2>you had that. It's time. Got that going for me,

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<v Speaker 2>for the quickeets, some to the ms quickets. Come make

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<v Speaker 2>it quick, ave come available.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Still basking in the glow of the Dodgers celebration. Max

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<v Speaker 2>Munsey went on Foul Territory Today, one of those podcasts,

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<v Speaker 2>and was asked about the fourth inning benches clearing incident

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<v Speaker 2>in Game seven, where Justin Robleski did not get kicked

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<v Speaker 2>out for hitting a batter, but Mounsey said he almost did.

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<v Speaker 5>Reaction was like, hell, yeah, don't back down to this guy,

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<v Speaker 5>go get him. And then immediately I was like, oh crap,

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<v Speaker 5>we need him to stay in this game. He's gotta

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<v Speaker 5>throw some more back. So I was like, I got

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<v Speaker 5>to get him out of there.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>My initial reaction was yeah, go get him, go get him.

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<v Speaker 5>But then I was like, oh man, we got to

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<v Speaker 5>get We got to make sure he stays in this game.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, thankfully. The umpires all came up to

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<v Speaker 5>me and they're like, if you didn't get him out

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<v Speaker 5>of there, we were probably gonna have to toss him,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, because you know how that goes with the

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<v Speaker 5>instigation rules. If you're the guy that instigates it, then

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<v Speaker 5>you're usually the one that gets tossed, even though even

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<v Speaker 5>though it's not your fault. And so, you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>knew we needed him for at least one or two,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe three more batters just based on that part of

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<v Speaker 5>the lineup, and I was you know, so I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>I got to get him out of there and make

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<v Speaker 5>sure he stays in this game. And I talked to

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<v Speaker 5>him the next day and he was like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>appreciate it. You know, first, I think he was a

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<v Speaker 5>little taking him back that I was not letting him

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<v Speaker 5>get in the fight. But you know, it's he he

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<v Speaker 5>he had that mentality the whole postseason. Every time he pitched,

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<v Speaker 5>he he was coming after you. He didn't care who

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<v Speaker 5>you were. And you know, that's that's part of the

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<v Speaker 5>part of the things that I love about our pictures

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<v Speaker 5>is they start getting that attitude that they're gonna attack

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<v Speaker 5>you and they don't care and he has the right

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<v Speaker 5>attitude to have, but sometimes you have someone you know

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<v Speaker 5>pull you out of there.

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<v Speaker 2>To do my best.

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<v Speaker 4>Don McClain, Tim Kates, who monitored that interview and pulled

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<v Speaker 4>that sound. Did he address the bush league nature of

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<v Speaker 4>Jiminez sticking his hand out there trying to get hit

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<v Speaker 4>that led.

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<v Speaker 2>To the bean ball? And that's not what I read.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there was a follow up to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, how about that bush league move by Jiminez man

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<v Speaker 4>sticking his hand out there, Jim and Ez exactly right, Hey, hey, Jiminez.

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<v Speaker 2>He med uh. Congratulations to Yoshi Yamamoto, finalists for the

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<v Speaker 2>cy Young and Shohe Tana You finalists for MVP. Speaking

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<v Speaker 2>the Japanese pitchers, Matt You Darvish is gonna miss twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six with the UCL surgery and his pitching elbow.

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<v Speaker 2>Second time he's had Tommy John surgery. The last time

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<v Speaker 2>was about ten years ago. If he returns to pitch,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be in twenty twenty seven at age forty.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he could probably do the Padres a favor

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<v Speaker 4>and just retire, Maybe come up with an injury settlement,

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<v Speaker 4>get the salary off their books so they can go

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<v Speaker 4>out and spend more money on somebody else and not

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<v Speaker 4>get into the luxury tax. I think they were all

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<v Speaker 4>kind of hopeful that he was going to retire, and

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<v Speaker 4>this certainly seems to we'll magnify that situation since he

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<v Speaker 4>en I'm gonna be able to pitch next year.

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<v Speaker 2>We will keep you posting. UH. USC number twenty now

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<v Speaker 2>six and two, four and one in the Big Ten

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<v Speaker 2>is home Friday versus Northwestern Trujan serve fourteen and a

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<v Speaker 2>half point favorites. So you got in that one. I

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<v Speaker 2>not ready yet. Fight fight all I've read. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>what I read. I would say maybe maybe sc fight,

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<v Speaker 2>don't fight all, fight all you got coward, you got

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<v Speaker 2>annotation in town. I think guess he's gonna win. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's a that's a. I mean I got burned by

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<v Speaker 2>that Notre Dame number, which was twice as large. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>UCLA is three and five. They're three and two into

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<v Speaker 2>Big Ten. They're on an off week. They host the

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<v Speaker 2>team that USC just beat Nebraska this Saturday. No Dylan

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<v Speaker 2>Reyola for the Huskers, and the Bruins are two and

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<v Speaker 2>a half point fave.

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<v Speaker 4>What was the stat they showed after USC beat Matt Rule.

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<v Speaker 4>He is now zero and twenty against ranked teams, zero

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<v Speaker 4>and twenty for if ever, people fighting for his service

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<v Speaker 4>for Penn State, right right, zero and twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>We like this guy. We're going to extend.

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<v Speaker 4>We got to go, hey, we got to keep this

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<v Speaker 4>guy locked up. They're gonna come get him. Everybody's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be lining up to get him.

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<v Speaker 2>The exciting Whites of the Lakers are six and two.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, they've won four in a row.

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<v Speaker 4>About last night, man, no Reeves, no Doncic, no Lebron,

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<v Speaker 4>no problem.

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<v Speaker 2>They're back at it tonight versus Wimby and the Spurs.

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<v Speaker 2>The Clippers are three and three, second night of a

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<v Speaker 2>back to back. They host Oklahoma City, the defending champs,

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<v Speaker 2>tonight here on am FI seventy tip off? Is it eight?

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<v Speaker 2>This well? As Don McLean said, and he'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>on Thursday, all the cost of that, I'm starting.

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<v Speaker 4>Slow, So just slow start for the old guys. How

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<v Speaker 4>usually they had everybody out there still lost last night

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<v Speaker 4>by one Miami heat at the busser.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like Miami played the night before. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>actually did poured it out to try to beat the Lakers. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>uh Matt. There's more.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, let's talk lawsuits. Aspiration and the Investors have filed

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<v Speaker 4>a lawsuit against Clipper's owner Balmer Steve Balmer over the

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<v Speaker 4>Kawhi Leonards scandal. The suit claims Balmer used a twenty

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<v Speaker 4>eight million dollars no show deal between Kawhi and Aspiration

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<v Speaker 4>order to get around the NBA salary cap rules. He

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<v Speaker 4>is being sued by eleven Aspiration investors. According to the lawsuit,

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<v Speaker 4>Balmer channeled funds through Aspiration in order to quote induce

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<v Speaker 4>Leonard to re sign with the Clippers by covertly paying

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<v Speaker 4>him more than allowed by the NBA salary cap rooms.

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<v Speaker 2>Us.

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<v Speaker 4>Balmer was quote complicit in and aided and embedded in

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<v Speaker 4>the fraud. The lawsuit reads whoa Plaineiffs also alleged that

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<v Speaker 4>Balmer transferred other funds to the company in order to

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<v Speaker 4>keep it afloat and buy co founder Joe Sandberg's support, cooperation,

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<v Speaker 4>and silence about the secret deal with Leonard.

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<v Speaker 2>So this isn't Pablo Torri just doing a podcast. This

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<v Speaker 2>is real allegation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is investors that lost all their cash when

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<v Speaker 4>Aspiration went bankrupt and are trying to figure out how

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<v Speaker 4>to dip into Balmer's multi billion dollar pockets to see

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<v Speaker 4>if they can, you know, get a little something for

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<v Speaker 4>the f A little bit of a blackmail action here,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, I'm a little something.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah well, call it blackmail, Matt.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a real lawsuit, I mean, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>it says that they wanted to buy Sandberg's silence. Seems

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<v Speaker 4>like Balmer had to, you know, forgot some cash. So

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<v Speaker 4>a guy wouldn't already go chirping, Matt. We do have

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Tolesco chirping with us. In the next segment at

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<v Speaker 4>some of the NFL trade deadlines. Though big ones top

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<v Speaker 4>five picks, the Jets trade two of them. Quinn Williams,

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<v Speaker 4>one of the best defensive tackles in the game, goes

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<v Speaker 4>to the Cowboys. Sauce Gardner in the conversation, is the

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<v Speaker 4>best corner in the game. We'll go to the Colts

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<v Speaker 4>and the Saints traded Rashid Shahed to the Seahawks. The

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<v Speaker 4>Raiders moved Jacoby Myers to the Jags. The Chargers picked

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<v Speaker 4>up Trevor Penning. Oh it's right there, Trevor Penny from

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<v Speaker 4>the New Orleans Saints, and traded away Josh Sir Taylor

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<v Speaker 4>two those aforementioned Jets. Penning has played tackle and guard.

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<v Speaker 4>See whether or not they want him as a replacement

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<v Speaker 4>for Joe Alt at that left tackle position.

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<v Speaker 2>The Rams played the forty nine ers on Sunday. They're

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<v Speaker 2>playing well, they're six and two. We'll get more of

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<v Speaker 2>Well with the big NFL Trade Talk. You can hear

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<v Speaker 2>five o'clock booth Ball. But we are making a preemptive

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<v Speaker 2>strike to talk to our friend Tom Telesco. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>gott have anything left to talk about, long time front

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<v Speaker 2>office man Charger GM, Raider GM. He's helping out with

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<v Speaker 2>the Corona Del Mar football team. They have Round one

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<v Speaker 2>of the playoffs against the one seed, the Myriatta Valley

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<v Speaker 2>Nighthawks CDM Corona Del Mar c Kings versus Nighthawks on

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<v Speaker 2>Friday night. So joining us right now on your Toyota

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<v Speaker 2>Dealers Celebrity Hotline is the very measured, the very revered

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<v Speaker 2>friend of the show, Tom Telesca on Petrosen Money. What's cracking?

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<v Speaker 1>Tom?

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<v Speaker 6>How are you hey, guys, Good afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Good afternoon to you. Tom. Tell us a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>about this later trade deadline. It seems to have changed

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things for NFL teams.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it really has. And in twenty twelve it was

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<v Speaker 6>week six with the trade deadline and they move it

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<v Speaker 6>to week eight, and then about i'd say two or

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<v Speaker 6>three years ago, I moved to where it is now

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<v Speaker 6>right after week nine, going into Week ten, and that

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<v Speaker 6>just gives teams more opportunity to see exactly where they

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<v Speaker 6>are in the season, whether they're on their way up

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<v Speaker 6>or on their way down, and make a decision to

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<v Speaker 6>make a move or out. And I think that's just

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<v Speaker 6>brought more activity. As you saw today today the amount

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<v Speaker 6>of trades, they were about the same as last year

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<v Speaker 6>and about the same as the last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's really it's it's obviously there's that quick, fixed

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<v Speaker 6>mentality for a lot of these trades because a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of them are one year rentals. But I think right now,

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<v Speaker 6>while you're seeing there's a lot of teams that can

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<v Speaker 6>accumulate draft picks via other trades or draft day trades

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<v Speaker 6>or the compensory pick system, it gives them more ammunition

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<v Speaker 6>they like this to make a move. So, but the

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<v Speaker 6>big thing today was what the Jets did. Those those

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<v Speaker 6>are not typical trade deadline type trades, but just a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of activity today.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you mentioned the Jets two former top five picks.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, players that are considered the best at their positions.

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<v Speaker 4>D line corner. Why is it that some positions are

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<v Speaker 4>traded and others aren't. What is it about defensive line.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems like every year you get a couple pass

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<v Speaker 4>rushers that are going to move or interior lignement feels

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<v Speaker 4>like running backs get traded by receivers get traded. What

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<v Speaker 4>is it about that position? And like old lineman almost

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<v Speaker 4>never move at the trade deadline? Is there something to

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<v Speaker 4>certain positions moving and others not.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, A big part of it the supply and demand.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean offensive line wise. If you have a tackle

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<v Speaker 6>on your team, even if he's your third tackle or

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<v Speaker 6>depth tackle, you don't want to trade them. They're so

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<v Speaker 6>hard to find. That's why with the Chargers they had

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<v Speaker 6>offensive line needs at the trade deadline. It's so hard

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<v Speaker 6>to find anybody that will trade you a tackle who

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<v Speaker 6>can play. And they got lucky enough to make a

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<v Speaker 6>trade for Trevor Penning. But there just isn't a lot

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<v Speaker 6>out there, So you don't see a lot of trades

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<v Speaker 6>for offerensive linemen. But at positions where there's a little

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<v Speaker 6>bit more bigger pool running back, safeties a lot of times,

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<v Speaker 6>usually outside corner is never available at the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 6>Usually nickel corners are just because there aren't a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of outside corners. Obviously, the sauce gardener thing is an anomaly.

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<v Speaker 6>But you see a lot of pass rushers at the

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<v Speaker 6>trade deadline, and usually they're more towards the end of

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<v Speaker 6>their career. They come in for one year rental. You

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<v Speaker 6>give a little bit extra pass rush down the stretch,

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<v Speaker 6>but it all comes down to supply and demand.

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<v Speaker 4>How Tom, just speaking to the Chargers, you know, for

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<v Speaker 4>a while there they were on tackle number six and seven.

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<v Speaker 4>Bobby Hard who hadn't started game since twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 4>got a few starts out there. You drafted justin Herbert.

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<v Speaker 4>How do they overcome not not having you know, over

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<v Speaker 4>Shawn Slater and now Joe Alt and trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>build on what they did last year winning eleven games.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it's going to be extremely difficult and it's gonna

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<v Speaker 6>be a challenge. But you know, there's different ways to

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<v Speaker 6>look at it. I mean number one is, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>where else can we bring a player in? And they

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<v Speaker 6>went out and traded for Trevor Penning, who's you know,

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<v Speaker 6>these you know, six six six seven, three hundred and

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<v Speaker 6>fifteen pounds, really tough, physical, strong mentality. Didn't fare as

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<v Speaker 6>well at tackle with the Saints. That moved him inside

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<v Speaker 6>the guard, and we'll see where the Chargers end up

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<v Speaker 6>playing him. But what they're going to have to do

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of this, It's gonna have to be scheme based.

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<v Speaker 6>You're gonna have to leave the tight ends in a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit more to help block. You're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 6>keep keep the running backs into, You're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 6>move the pocket more. There's just certain things scheme wise,

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<v Speaker 6>you're gonna have to do right now to protect Justin

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<v Speaker 6>just because look, when you get to your fifth, sixth,

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<v Speaker 6>seventh tackle, I mean, obviously there's gonna be a drop

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<v Speaker 6>off in talent and he just can't go and go

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<v Speaker 6>get another player at this point of season. So there's

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<v Speaker 6>certainly when they can really play and start. So Greg

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<v Speaker 6>Roman's gonna have to be creative with the pass protection, moving

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<v Speaker 6>the pocket, and probably doing a lot more max protections

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<v Speaker 6>to protect the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been running around like crazy, Justin Herbert, we look

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<v Speaker 2>like a college quarterback against Tennessee taking off. How sustainable

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<v Speaker 2>is that? Or I guess that's why they went out

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<v Speaker 2>and found some Moralline.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, yeah, you have to pick your spots, and I

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<v Speaker 6>think Justin does a pretty good job of picking the

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<v Speaker 6>spots and when he wants to run and when it's

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<v Speaker 6>time to slide or when his time just you know,

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<v Speaker 6>just eat it, just take a sack and go down.

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<v Speaker 6>But obviously the hits in the pocket over time, they're

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<v Speaker 6>not sustainable. But it's also part of the position. And

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<v Speaker 6>he's he's a big, strong, physical player and he's built

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<v Speaker 6>to take somebody. He says, all quarterbacks get hit, all

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<v Speaker 6>at different rates. But part of that position is having

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<v Speaker 6>the durability to handle some of that punishment that comes

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<v Speaker 6>with it. And the good thing about Justin is he's

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<v Speaker 6>smart enough to know when to go down and when

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<v Speaker 6>to go get to extra yards. He saw last week

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<v Speaker 6>against the Titans. There are some opportunities that he just

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<v Speaker 6>went out and got after it because he had to.

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<v Speaker 6>And it was great seeing the bench all get excited

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<v Speaker 6>when they see him Justin put a shoulder on and

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<v Speaker 6>try and knock somebody down. Now, at the GM, you

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<v Speaker 6>don't like to see that very often, but I guess

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<v Speaker 6>people going and he's outstanding at it.

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<v Speaker 4>What is it about trying to keep oldlignement healthy? You

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned it, Tom, If you have it, you don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to get rid of your third one A lot of

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<v Speaker 4>teams I want to get rid of their fourth one

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<v Speaker 4>because guys, these tackles get injured pretty regularly. Is there

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<v Speaker 4>a way around that? Is it brace? Wearing braces? Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 4>What is it that you could maybe do to prevent

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<v Speaker 4>as many O line injuries as we see year in

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<v Speaker 4>and year out.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I know at the college level they can mandate

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<v Speaker 6>players where knee brace is at the level, it's very

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<v Speaker 6>difficult to do. And in the end, like a knee brace,

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<v Speaker 6>it's not going to protect you from ACL. It could

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<v Speaker 6>protect your health a little bit from MCL injury, But

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<v Speaker 6>in the end, what you have to look at is

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<v Speaker 6>who if your filter of who you're bringing in, who

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<v Speaker 6>you're signing is free agents, who you're signing after the

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<v Speaker 6>draft is free agents, and who you're drafting, and if

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<v Speaker 6>teams want to, you know, draft a player with the

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<v Speaker 6>long injury history or chronic issues in college. A lot

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<v Speaker 6>of times those same issues come through in the pros.

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<v Speaker 6>But look, some of these are just bad luck. Joe

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<v Speaker 6>Wall has been very healthy through his college career. Rashaun

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<v Speaker 6>Slater was very healthy in his college career. So some

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<v Speaker 6>of these you just can't There's nothing you can do

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<v Speaker 6>about but as a whole your philosophy, there may be

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<v Speaker 6>some players you really like in the draft. We just

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<v Speaker 6>feel like there's some durability questions and it'd be better

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<v Speaker 6>off the pass, because availability is the most important thing

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<v Speaker 6>you can have, certainly on the offensive line, because they're

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<v Speaker 6>just too and far between of having enough to go

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<v Speaker 6>into the season.

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<v Speaker 2>With the great Tom te LESCo, you can hear him

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<v Speaker 2>on serious at SAM NFL Radio tonight at five o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>going over all this trade stuff and don't forget the

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<v Speaker 2>big playoff game with Myriata Valley versus CDM Playoffs this

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<v Speaker 2>week first round, the Raiders trade Jacoby Myers to the Jaguars.

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<v Speaker 2>They're in a tough spot. They didn't trade Max Crosby,

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<v Speaker 2>which could have got them a load of picks. Where

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<v Speaker 2>are they.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, they're kind of stuck in between a rebuild and

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<v Speaker 6>trying to still get after it this year. I didn't

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<v Speaker 6>see any possible way they would trade Max Crosby. And

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<v Speaker 6>then you know, after you actually tell Max Crosby you're

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<v Speaker 6>not going to trade them, obviously you're not going to

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<v Speaker 6>do it. I saw some rumors today because I have

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<v Speaker 6>to follow all this. If you're ready for the show tonight.

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<v Speaker 6>But hey, maybe some teams are talking the Raiders about

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<v Speaker 6>Max Crosby and so there's about one hundred percent chance

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<v Speaker 6>that's not going to happen. But I can see the

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<v Speaker 6>Jacoby and Buyers one coming. And they got a great

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<v Speaker 6>I mean to get a fourth and a sixth round

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<v Speaker 6>pick back for Jacoby Byers and Myers is it. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>he was in the last year of his contract, so

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<v Speaker 6>it's a you know, nine to ten game rental for Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a pretty return. And you know, Jacoby just Jacoby

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<v Speaker 6>is a great person. He's a professional. But you could sense,

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<v Speaker 6>like you know, the trade. You know, he didn't want

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<v Speaker 6>to be there. He wanted to get moved. And players

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<v Speaker 6>just don't play as well or not as well invested

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<v Speaker 6>when they don't want to be somewhere. I think that's

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<v Speaker 6>probably why the Raiders and then they probably didn't want

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<v Speaker 6>to trade him, but in the end, you know, probably

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<v Speaker 6>was just best for them, best for the team, and

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<v Speaker 6>they got a great return back with the four and

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<v Speaker 6>a six Moving forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Tom, that's wonderful stuff. We hope

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't wreck you for your show tonight, but have

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<v Speaker 2>a great show and we'll talk to you soon. The

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<v Speaker 2>Great Tom Toll, Let's go and good luck on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go see Kings. Appreciate guys.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks thanks having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely the great Tom to Let's go. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>doubt about it. And we'll be right back with your

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<v Speaker 2>it's clear skys, so you can get out to Sorito's

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<v Speaker 2>at our BJS from three to six thirty, right before

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<v Speaker 4>We love Cerrito well and it's a little bonus for

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<v Speaker 4>But in this case, no, BJ's happy hour starts at three,

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<v Speaker 4>goes until nine, and we'll be there from three to

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<v Speaker 4>six thirty. We'll get to watch the first half of

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<v Speaker 4>don't they that that Clipper ship. So it'll be three

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<v Speaker 4>to six thirty, not our typical two to five going

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<v Speaker 4>into Monday or Thursday night football.

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<v Speaker 4>It'll be our first appearance of many at BJ's Restaurant

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<v Speaker 4>and brew House between now week ten and the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the NFL season Week eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm going to Fresno next week and that's where

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to have dinner. Now I don't have to.

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<v Speaker 4>No, now you got this squared away. Just fast until

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<v Speaker 4>Monday and then get the pork uppolist flatbread. It'll be

0:25:56.000 --> 0:26:00.360
<v Speaker 4>great to hoorner Andy Pajas blowing up Key k Herz

0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:03.879
<v Speaker 4>in center field in Game seven. We will honor a

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<v Speaker 4>Cuban man who plays for the Dodgers by honoring a

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<v Speaker 4>Cuban musician. Let's celebrate Carlos Potato Valdez, the great Cuban

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<v Speaker 4>conga player, would have been ninety nine years old today.

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<v Speaker 4>Also known as well, he was Patato because he was short.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the one that stopped. El Toro was his nickname

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<v Speaker 4>as a young dancer and boxer. He was also known

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<v Speaker 4>as El Zombie or Zombito or Pecaneo Zombie because how

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<v Speaker 4>famous he made the Zombie Club in Havana when he

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<v Speaker 4>played there.

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<v Speaker 2>But as I said, I thought it was because he

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<v Speaker 2>was the undead.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>He died at eighty one, twelve thirteen years ago. But

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<v Speaker 2>the Zombie club was a big thing. I guess from

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<v Speaker 2>a music family. He mastered percussion at a young age,

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<v Speaker 2>played with many greats in the forties, and by the

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 2>fifties he was touring the world, especially New York City,

0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:15.400
<v Speaker 2>and he was attracted by America's jazz scene in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>So he left Cuba in nineteen fifty four, basically was

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<v Speaker 2>exiled because of what happened there, and recorded with everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean everybody, Tito Puente, Art, Blakey, Max Roach. He

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:34.880
<v Speaker 2>toured Africa and Europe. He toured Europe with Dizzey Gillespie

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 2>and Quincy Joel. He even acted and appeared and played

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<v Speaker 2>on the Bill Cosby Show WHOA which was a great

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<v Speaker 2>show for jazz. Did he ever play with Dave cos

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not beyond the realm of possibility. He

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<v Speaker 2>lived till super cool, He lived till like fifteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>And Cause, you know, at his time in the eighties

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<v Speaker 2>and nineties, it might have crossed as with Cause. He

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 2>might have had Cause, Yeah to play with Cause and

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<v Speaker 2>the late I don't even know if you played with Sandborn. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>come on. In the late forties, he helped develop the

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 2>first tunable congas, leading to the development of the LP

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Potato model Congas, the top selling conga drum of all time.

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 2>An Afro Cuban jazz legend to say the least, and

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<v Speaker 2>cut across paths with Dave cause because he had a

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<v Speaker 2>sixty year career in the music scene. He died a

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 2>respiratory failure at eighty one in Cleveland. Potato Valdez a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things that he did that were really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them that he did not do was knockover

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<v Speaker 2>Key k Hernandez while making a pivotal catch in center

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<v Speaker 2>left and then hesitate before helped him out in game seven. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he had to look and see what's going on? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that out number three? Oh? Let me help out this

0:28:56.280 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 2>young Puerto Rican. Was that a donkey? I just ran into?

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<v Speaker 2>What the hell you're alive?

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<v Speaker 6>Guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Could have been a little al Penguino, which is also

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<v Speaker 2>what Potato's nickname was for his dancing style. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it could have been anybody, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>Ki the h A live guy. Birthday.

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<v Speaker 4>A tip of the cap to our dear friend Eric

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<v Speaker 4>Carros who is fifty eight today. Happy birthday, k It

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<v Speaker 4>is also your mate. A real Barry Kracer's birthday today

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<v Speaker 4>celebrated in this space last year and we learned the

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<v Speaker 4>term a real Barry Kraka.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unfortunately we're not going back to that.

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<v Speaker 4>We aren't because I figured I would do something to

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<v Speaker 4>support our hesher audience today, Kates, please thank you. Jimmy

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<v Speaker 4>That Metropolis Part two from Breaking the Fourth Wall by

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<v Speaker 4>Dream Theater. Every metal band's favorite metal band, and today

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<v Speaker 4>we celebrate Jordan Rudis their cheese player. You play keys

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<v Speaker 4>for a metal band and you got something special going

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<v Speaker 4>on on their fingers at yours man.

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<v Speaker 2>He has sixty nine today. Born in Great Neck, New York.

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<v Speaker 4>At child prodigy on piano, began his professional instruction when

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<v Speaker 4>he was seven. At nine, he was granted admission at

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<v Speaker 4>nine to the Juilliard School of Music, where he trained

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 4>and worked under their best teachers and performers. He was

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<v Speaker 4>expected to become the next great American classical pianist. But

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 4>he got his hands on some deep purple vinyl. He

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 4>was like John Lord, blowing my mind. He took the

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 4>prop path, much to his parents his tutors protests.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, heterned. He like the guy in School of Rock.

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 4>Yes, his first band Complex actually was with one of

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 4>his Juilliard instructors. It was like, I like what you're doing,

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 4>kid with you. He and Joseph Lyons the New York

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 4>Times loved him. They put out a record, They got

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 4>a residency at the Lexington Conservatory Theater. Floyd asked, and

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 4>by Floyd, I mean Pink Floyd, not Pink Floyd. Pink

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 4>Floyd asked if he wanted to be part of the

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 4>sessions for scoring Bring the Boys Back Home on the Wall.

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<v Speaker 2>They were amazing.

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 4>His work was not accepted by producer Bob Ezrind. He

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<v Speaker 4>did a bunch of session for hired gigs throughout the eighties,

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 4>put out some solo records. In ninety four, he was

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<v Speaker 4>voted best Talent by Keyboard magazine and their reader's poll

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<v Speaker 4>following the release of his solo album Listen. So there

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 4>was a fight for the Rudest Keys. The Dixie Dregs

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 4>and Dream Theater both asked him to join, but he's like, nah, man,

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm into my solo career. The Dregs were like, we'll

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 4>just let you go part time, so we did. He

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 4>and his drummer Rod Morgenstein hit it off. They started

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 4>the Rudis Morgenstein Project known as RMP by the prog

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 4>rockers Ooh. Not offended by his declining their invitation, Dream

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 4>Theater offered the duo their support slot on the North

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 4>American tour. In ninety seven, Mike Portnoy, a man behind

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 4>Dream Theater, was asked to form a supergroup and he

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 4>wanted Rudis to join Liquid Tension Experiment.

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh, come on, what a band?

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 4>Did two albums there, and this time Portnoy wasn't taken

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 4>no for an answer. They wanted him in Dream Theater

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 4>and he agreed, and since ninety nine, in this album

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 4>P Metropolis Part two Scenes from a Memory, he has

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 4>been part of Dream Theater. Rudis stumbling upon a piano

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<v Speaker 4>in Lax during the Christmas season and deciding to tickle

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 4>the keys.

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<v Speaker 2>Not just a metal guy, huh, A little prog rock

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 2>version of White Christmas. It's like I'm met a Nordstrom.

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<v Speaker 4>Here are some of the album titles. P. Six Degrees

0:32:53.360 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 4>of Innerturbulence, Wow, Systematic Chaos, The Astonishing from the Top

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 4>of the World, and this year twenty twenty five's Parasomnia.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what we're talking about with our man. Rudish started

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 4>on a kurtzwheel, then he got to a cord. He

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 4>has a role in key tar that he'll break out

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 4>at their live performances from time to time.

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 2>An LP potato conga, the greatest selling conga of all time.

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 2>It's tunable. Talk about meeting.

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<v Speaker 4>He is a very successful businessman in the world of music,

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 4>software and app use I guess he's got a lot

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 4>of stuff that make noises for your keyboards, to upload

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 4>software patches and stuff like that. And he has arguably

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 4>the greatest neck go tee. Oh not a neck beard,

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 4>but a neck go tee, got it, that I've ever seen.

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Jordan rudis fabulous. All right, that's it for us. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you to Ronnie at Ronnie Fossil. He'll post the playlist,

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<v Speaker 2>will it? Will it include Brutus And a big thank

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 2>you to Tip King that that's your gene keeps him working.

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<v Speaker 2>So long as you said yesterday, man, we'll be back

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<v Speaker 2>on tomorrow. Three quick enjoyed