1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: Cincinnati's sports station. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: I love that commercial. Six after four. This is ESPN 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. I don't know how to read a clock, 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: so a slightly late start to the hour of my apologies. 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Are we doing this? 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: We're doing another one. We're broadcasting this hour. Maybe the 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: rest of the show we'll see on Twitter. This is 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: advancing from the beta version. That's try you could watch 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: a radio show. There's nothing more exciting at Mullager, nothing 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: more exciting. You can watch me sit here and talk 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: into a microphone instead of simply listening to me talking 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: to a microphone. Nate Bukaty from an MLS season past, 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: Apple TV is going to join us at four to twenty. 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 2: He's got the call tomorrow FC Cincinnati and Atlanta. We've 15 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: got the college basketball from this weekend to touch on 16 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: more on the Reds as they get set to start 17 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: games in Goodyear the Bengals. Next week's going to be interesting. 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: Duke Tobin's gonna talk again, Zach Taylor's going to talk 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: to coordinators. And next week is when we start to 20 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: flip the page to the twenty twenty six season, and 21 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: it's gathering intel about draft prospects. It's maybe seeing what 22 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: the market could be if the Bengals do apply the 23 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: tag to Trey Hendrickson. One of the topics that's going 24 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,639 Speaker 2: to be discussed in Indie for a lot of different 25 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: teams is Max Crosby, who the Raiders apparently have set 26 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: the asking price way up here, and of course they should, right. 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: Max Crosby is awesome. The Raiders aren't liquidating him, They're 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: not giving him away. They should be asking for a lot. 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: Now are the Bengals interested? 30 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: Man? 31 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: Your guess is as good as mine. I do know 32 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: that Max Crosby and the Bengals that potential will go 33 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 2: with potential relationship was kind of kicked in a hyperdrive 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: because of the Fitzian Wit podcast or is it Wit 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: and Fits. 36 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. 37 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: Andrew Whitworth and Ryan Fitzpatrick do a podcast and it's 38 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: a good one, or they were like banging the drum 39 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: for the Bengals to go trade for Max Crosby. Our 40 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: friend Danner Junior of the Athletic Rites a really good 41 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: piece where he presents the pros and the cons. The 42 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: pros are it's Max Crosby. It's also something bold, and 43 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: you know, something bold might be what's required if you're 44 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: really going to push all your chips to the center 45 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: of the table for twenty twenty six, and if you 46 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: want to send a surge of energy and optimism through 47 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: your team and through your fan base, the cons are 48 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: it would cost a lot. It would cost a lot 49 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: of money. Max Crosby's salary cap hit is roughly thirty 50 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: five million dollars, and you would be partying, in all 51 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: likelihood with some draft capital, including obviously the tenth overall pick. 52 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: One of the most annoying things you can do in life, 53 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: and I'm guilty of it, but one of the most 54 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: annoying things you can do in life is when you 55 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: are asked a question, you answer it with a question. 56 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to do that, not the first time I've 57 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: done something annoying in front of this micro phone. 58 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: Should the Max? 59 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: You ask, should the the Bengals trade for Max Crosby, 60 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: I'll answer it with a question, And the question is 61 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: can they do it and still fix the rest of 62 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: their defense? Paul writes this passage, and I'm not a 63 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: big believer in giving away people's content, so go read 64 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 2: the entire thing. But like he writes this in the 65 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: con part of his piece, the downside, there needs to 66 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: be concerned about raising the floor more than the ceiling. 67 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: Feel free to do both. But the Bengals can't go 68 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: forward with bargain basement replacements in the starting lineup, trotting 69 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: out Barrett Carter and Demetrius Knight again, or not finding 70 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: an interior pass rush compliment. So I will answer a 71 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: question by asking can they still do all that stuff 72 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: while still acquiring Max Crosby. Now there is a world, 73 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: especially if the Bengals entertain restructuring Joe Burrow's contract, which 74 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: he's kind of a expressed a willingness to do, where 75 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: you can get creative and you could use the draft 76 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: assets you have, and you can find the right free agents, 77 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: and you can spend the still considerable dollars you have 78 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: available to go and fix the rest of the defense. 79 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: Because acquiring Max Crosby, who's a younger, better version of 80 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson, I think, a more well rounded version of 81 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson. And that's not Trey Hendrickson slander. It's more 82 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: of a statement about how good Max Crosby is, ultimate 83 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: high motor guy, like has all the intangibles and he 84 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: is an awesome player, But simply acquiring him and then 85 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: you know, patchworking the rest of the defense, It's probably 86 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 2: not gonna work. And like I joked about this with 87 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: Paul on Tuesday, where I said, you know, if I'm 88 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: gonna be in Texas on Monday and Tuesday, and the 89 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: way I put it was, if I find out next 90 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: week that Duke Tobin has said, you know what, we 91 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: feel pretty comfortable. We think we're just going to run 92 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: it back with Barrett and Demetrius to go find a 93 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: cowboy that's gonna brand me with an iron. 94 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,559 Speaker 1: Like come on like that? 95 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: That can't that. It's not to say those guys can't 96 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: be on the team. It's not to say that those 97 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 2: guys can't be productive, good NFL players, but like you 98 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: want to substantially improve your defense, you gotta do better 99 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: than those dudes. So they need starting caliber players. I'm 100 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 2: not sure there's been an offseason where the terms starting 101 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: caliber players have been used more frequently than they've been 102 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: here with the Bengals on their starting caliber players. Can 103 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 2: the Bengals get starting caliber players on every level of 104 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: the defense and get Max Crosby. The answer may be yes, 105 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: but I fear it's no because of the lack of 106 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 2: faith in the Bengals being able to be creative and 107 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: smart and and find players that are smart acquisitions that 108 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: might not be the absolute top of line guys. Like, 109 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: if you have fewer draft picks, it puts more of 110 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: a premium on the draft picks you have. So the Bengals, 111 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: whose recent track record with the draft isn't great, we're 112 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: gonna take away draft picks now again. Man, adding Max 113 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: Crosby helps. He does not help the interior pass rush. 114 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: He doesn't help you at the three technique. He doesn't 115 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: help you at linebacker, doesn't help you at slock quota, 116 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 2: doesn't help you at safety, doesn't help you anywhere else. 117 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: So he helps solve a need. By the way, if. 118 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 2: There's one area where you're kind of okay, it's at edge. 119 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: Not that they don't need more, because they do. But 120 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: you do have Miles Murphy who was pretty good in 121 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: the second half of the season last year. And I'm 122 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: sure they haven't given up on Shamar Stewart. So like, unfortunately, 123 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: the question about whether or not they should acquire Max Crosby, 124 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 2: it's a good one. I will answer it with a 125 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: question that I'm not sure can be answered right now, 126 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: because if you're gonna answer it, you have more faith 127 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: in the Bengals front office than a lot of us do. 128 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 2: The whole reason why we went not so the Bengals 129 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: keeping Duke Tobin around was there's sort of a lack. 130 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: Of faith in here. 131 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: So right now, it's not that what the Bengals have 132 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: in front of them is easy. But right now, you 133 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: got all this money to spend, you got all this 134 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: cap space, you got all the draft picks, you have 135 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: obvious needs. You have an offensive side of the ball 136 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: that you can pretty much leave untouched. So though it'd 137 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: be cool if they got the Dalton Reisner thing done well, 138 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: you're gonna cut into that a little bit to go 139 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: get Max Crosby. He would occupy a significant chunk of money. 140 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: Let's face that the Bengals track record is not one 141 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: that suggests they're gonna restructure Joe Burrow's contract, so that 142 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: feels like it's not really on the table. 143 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna throw a lot of money at one guy, You're. 144 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: Gonna throw a lot of draft picks at the trade 145 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: to get that one guy, and you still have all 146 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: these other areas to fix on your defense. Can a smart, creative, efficient, 147 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: well staffed front office still get the job done. 148 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: Yes. 149 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: Do we feel like the Bengals front office right now 150 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: is smart, well staffed, creative, an efficient. 151 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: The answer is not. Yes. 152 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: Fourteen minutes after four o'clock, phone lines are open five 153 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: point three seven four nine fifteen thirty and eight sixty 154 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: six seven oh two three seven seven six. Uh I lied, 155 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: I said we had Nate Bukati at four twenty because 156 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: I can't read my own handwriting. Of course, those of 157 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: you who follow me on social media who have seen 158 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: you know I've I've tweeted out some some picks and 159 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: what I do is I just tweet out a picture 160 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: of the piece of paper that I keep for myself. 161 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: The handwriting is awful. I have many many flaws, many 162 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: many deficiencies. Awful handwriting is well. Frankly, it's not even 163 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: at the top of the list, or even close, but 164 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: it's on the list. And uh, Nate's going to join 165 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: us at four thirty in studio, is going to be 166 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: here in just about fifteen minutes. So you and I 167 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: between now and then five point three seven four nine 168 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 2: fifteen thirty is our phone number. 169 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: Pseudo. 170 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: Good news for fans of one college basketball team in 171 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: the area. 172 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: Next on ESPN fifty Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 173 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: Traffic from the UC Health Traffic Center. Around forty percent 174 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: of cancers are preventable. Lifestyle changes and screenings can make 175 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 3: a difference. 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I'm at Eazelic with traffic. 182 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: This report. 183 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 2: What an unbelievable college basketball weekend we have in front of. 184 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: Us, Just. 185 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: Forget all the off court issues the sport has right now. 186 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: You don't get many weekends where you get one versus 187 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: three depending on which pole you love. We get that 188 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: tomorrow with Duke and Michigan, which is just going to 189 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: be absolutely awesome. And this on top obviously of all 190 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: the local games, and then you get to Arizona and 191 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: Houston two versus four. Just an unbelievably packed college hoops 192 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: weekend in the middle of a really fun sports weekend. 193 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: Overall. We talked before about the Bearcats. 194 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: UC's had Kansas tomorrow, like really want to change the conversation. 195 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: Beat somebody good on the road. Miami plays tonight, and 196 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: I thought that went on Tuesday. Look, you get a 197 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: lot of credit. You get a lot of attention when 198 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: you're twenty six and zer regardless of what league you're in, whatever, 199 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: the schedule is more attention, more eyeballs, more scrutiny, and frankly, 200 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: more pressure with every game. By the way, for what 201 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: it's worth, it's not like they're running away and hiding 202 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: in the MAC. They have a one game lead over Akron. 203 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: Now Akron has one loss. The one loss was to Miami, 204 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: so it's kind of effectively a two game lead, but 205 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: they haven't closed out the MAC yet. An for what 206 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: it's worth, is in Monsey tonight to play ball State. 207 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 2: I thought they took UMass's best shot on Tuesday. I thought, 208 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: I don't know how tough of a gym the minute 209 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: men playing on a regular MAC game basis, but the 210 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: crowd was ready for him, the team was ready for him. 211 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: Miami's not a great defensive team. We're at the stage 212 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: in the season where it's just it's kind of who 213 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: they are. There are gonna be times where they just 214 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: have to outscore people. There're gonna be times where they're 215 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: gonna have to offset what you're doing offensively by just 216 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: getting buckets, and Miami is really good at that. 217 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: But we talked about this on Wednesday. 218 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 2: That game on Tuesday felt like one that all the 219 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: attention of the game on Friday, while he's Herbiak in town, 220 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 2: the games are sold out, people are going, They're getting 221 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: a lot of national attention. Travis is on game day 222 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: on Saturday. They go on the road against the team 223 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 2: that almost beat him here. That felt like a landmine. 224 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: They avoided the land mine. Now come back home tonight. 225 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: Lots of noise around the program. They've beaten Bowling Green once, 226 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: beat him by ten up there. They play him at 227 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: Molette Hall tonight. Can they maintain the same level of focus. 228 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 2: I we have our official bracketologist who we got to 229 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: get on here soon, Hunter sansm He is the official 230 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: bracketologist of our show. I think he's the official bracketologist 231 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: of this station. In fact, he might be the official 232 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: bracketologist of Lance's show. Because you know how it works. 233 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: We get guests, we find good people to have on. 234 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: Then the other hosts are like, oh yeah, that guy's good. 235 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: Happens all the time. 236 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: But for what it's worth, the most well known bracketologist 237 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 2: is Joe Lenardi. Now many will say on a year 238 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: and a year out basis, his projections aren't the most accurate. Fine, 239 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: but he's kind of like invented bracketology. For what it's worth, 240 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: He's written a book about bracketology. We had him on 241 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 2: the show to talk about the book and so much else. 242 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: He's his latest projections. The exercise that he did, he 243 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: had Miami losing a game and he still has him 244 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: in the field as one of the last four in 245 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: playing in Dayton in the quote play. 246 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: In but he's got him in. 247 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: I just you know they're they're getting a lot of attention, 248 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 2: and they seem to have maintained their focus. And there's 249 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: when you get to the stage in the season and 250 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: it feels like it may go up and smoke if 251 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 2: you lose one game, Like Arizona and Houston are are 252 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: playing games against each other tomorrow, Duke and Michigan. They're 253 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: great games, and a ripple effect from those games and 254 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: seeding an NCAA tournament impact. Their seasons aren't going to 255 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 2: be over if they lose them, or their tournament chances 256 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 2: aren't going to be dashed if they lose them. Yes, 257 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: Miami would still have the MAC Tournament, which they should 258 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: be favored in. But still so, you're playing with a 259 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 2: lot of pressure. You're playing like when you're trying to 260 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: finish undefeated. There's a different type of pressure I would 261 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: imagine that comes with that, all the added scrutiny, all 262 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: the added attention, and you are trying to work around 263 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: a little bit of a fatal flaw, which is their defense, 264 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: although it hasn't been fatal so far this season. Miami 265 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: and Bowling Green tonight at eight thirty. That is a 266 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: CBS Sports Network game. If I'm not mistaken, Uh, let's 267 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: see here five point three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty 268 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 2: Bob and Bowling Green. Bob, you're the biggest hockey fan. 269 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: I know the US is playing right now and you're 270 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: calling our show. 271 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: What's up? 272 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 4: Hey, Mom? 273 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: How are you? 274 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 4: I'm well yourself, I'm good, you know, speaking of hockey, 275 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 4: you guys, I know got mostly snow up there. A 276 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 4: few weeks back but we got killed with ice. I 277 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 4: mean it was just unbelievable and in fact so weird. 278 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 4: In fact that the Predators actually called off a game 279 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 4: because of ice. 280 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: The Nationale Predators didn't play a hockey game because of ice. 281 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: Wow, Yes, And I don't know. 282 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 4: For me, it was just it didn't seem fair, It 283 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 4: didn't seem right actually. But but anyway, what I wanted. 284 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: To do, well, you know that there were there were 285 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: Olympic events UH in Italy, in fact two I think, 286 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: featuring local athletes that got postponed because of too much snow. Really, 287 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: the Winter Olympics have events that get moved because of 288 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: too much snow, like snowboarding. How do you cancel snowboarding 289 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: if there's too much snow? 290 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that doesn't. 291 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: Say much, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. 292 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: Now, for a second, Bob, I thought you were gonna 293 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: throw at me a like a joke about immigrations and 294 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: custom enforcement enforcement. 295 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: And I was really hoping you weren't. 296 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: Going to do that. 297 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, not me. 298 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: Thanks. 299 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 4: Hey, mo, I wanted to talk to you about the 300 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 4: UH this season with the Cardinals and the Cincinnati Reds. Okay, 301 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 4: and for the first time in gosh, I don't know 302 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 4: how many years Chancels are pretty good, we're going to 303 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 4: be looking up all season long a you guys. 304 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like it. 305 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 4: And and you know what, for a lot of people, 306 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 4: I'm sure that's one of those things where you go, 307 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 4: oh God, this is going to be a horrible I 308 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 4: am actually looking forward to it, really and yeah, and 309 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 4: you've probably been this way when the Reds were doing 310 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 4: like a rebuild thing. I want to see which of 311 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 4: these young guys they have and which they've obtained in 312 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 4: trade for you know, they all the guys they got 313 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 4: rid of can really play, and for like I say, 314 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 4: for me, I'm I'm really excited about it. 315 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,479 Speaker 1: I don't know that I would say I've ever been excited. 316 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: I've tried to view it from a lens where it's like, 317 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: all right, if you're not going to compete, hopefully amid 318 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: all the losing, some key pieces emerge, and sometimes that 319 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: has happened, and sometimes that hasn't happened. The Reds lost 320 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: one hundred games in twenty twenty two, and yet there 321 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: was something about, okay, let's see if you know Hunter 322 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: Green and Nicolodolo and Graham Ashcraft can stick. 323 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: But by and large Number one. 324 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: I can't remember a season in my lifetime, Bob where 325 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: the expectations for the Cardinals have been this low. 326 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: Number two. 327 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: If I have a choice between getting ready for a 328 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: season where I think my team has a chance and 329 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: getting ready for a season where my team has no chance, 330 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 2: I will take the former. 331 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 332 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do appreciate the bright side. I do 333 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: appreciate it. You look it on the bright side, and 334 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: I do think there's something about, like, you know what, 335 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: I'm a fan of these team, this team. Let's see 336 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: what these guys can do and hopefully in a couple 337 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: of years these pieces are worth building around. I do 338 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: understand that. But I'd rather be I'll put it this way. 339 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: I'd rather be in the Reds position than the Cardinals 340 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 2: position right now. 341 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 4: Hey, mo, two of our pitchers, one of them can 342 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 4: throw with either arm. 343 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: That's cool. 344 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 4: And they have a starter named Dick Fits. 345 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: Dick Fitz is going to be one of the starting pitchers. 346 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 4: Well he could be. 347 00:17:58,920 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, is he any good? 348 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 4: And well, you know what came over from Boston? Uh, 349 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 4: it wasn't great over there, but the really young guy 350 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 4: and uh, and I think just with a name alone. 351 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 4: He should have a lot of followers with that. 352 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: No question. 353 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 2: Does he go by Richard or does he like to 354 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: be called Dick fitz? Is that is Dick fits on 355 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: his baseball card? 356 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 4: Well, he said Richard, but call me Dick for short, 357 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 4: I think is the way he likes to say it. 358 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: I I one. 359 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: I would like to spend one day in his shoes, 360 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: just introducing myself to people, telling folks my name, just 361 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 2: to see how they would react. 362 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 4: All right, well, hey, good speaking with you, Bob. 363 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: It's nice to hear from you. 364 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: Enjoy uh, enjoy the enjoy the rest of the hockey game. 365 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: It's uh four thirty. 366 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: Uh nepe Katy from my MLS season past, Apple TV 367 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 2: is going to join us. 368 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: And he just texted me, said the GPS says he's 369 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: three men. That's out. All right, fine sports headlines, Breck, 370 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: it's four minutes. 371 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: You know, Tarren and I were supposed to do something 372 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: at one thirty, sad and I showed up right at 373 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 2: one thirty. And I'm sure he wasn't annoyed at all 374 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: by that. So you know, it's a Friday that Nate's 375 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: not from in town, so he's navigating a I'm sure 376 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: a part of town he's never been to, in a 377 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: part of country is not from We'll do sports headlines 378 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 2: and Nate might be here in a few aud ESPN 379 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports. 380 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: Station, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic from the UC Health 381 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 3: Traffic Center. Around forty percent of cancers are preventable. Lifestyle 382 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: changes and screenings can make a difference. Call five one 383 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 3: three five eighty five UCCC. 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Believe 398 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: it or not, that dude's been here since twenty twenty. 399 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: Running back Kendall Milton one year contract. He has spent 400 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 2: the last two years. Most of the last two years 401 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 2: on the Bengals practice squad Reds and Guardians tomorrow and 402 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: the Cactus League opener FC Cincinnati tomorrow, and it's MLS 403 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: opener against Atlanta at four forty five on ESPN fifteen thirty. 404 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 2: Our guy nap Pukati from an Apple TV is in 405 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: studio will chat with him in just a second. Low 406 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: to college basketball weekend. Locally, Miami host bowling Greens and 407 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 2: Out at eight thirty. Indiana battles Purdue tomorrow. It's a 408 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: you see at Kansas at one that's on seven hundred wow. 409 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 2: Xavier's at Butler at one thirty fifty five. KRC has 410 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 2: radio coverage that one Dayton takes on too, Caine, UK 411 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: and Auburn tomorrow at eight thirty on ESPN fifteen thirty. 412 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 2: On Sunday, we have NKU at Youngstown State. Ohio State 413 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: battles Michigan State. US is up for nothing. As I 414 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: just mentioned in the semifinal tilt of the men's hockey 415 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: competition at the Olympics. Winner plays in the gold medal 416 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 2: match on Sunday against Canada. Cyclone skate tonight at Iowa. 417 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: Another game at Iowa tomorrow evening. FC Cincinnati wins. It's 418 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 2: a CONCA CAF Champions Cup match on Wednesday. Now they 419 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: set their sights on the MLS regular season opener tomorrow 420 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: afternoon four forty five. You can watch it on Apple TV. 421 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: Calling the game in studio, visit nape U. 422 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: Katie is with us. What's up? 423 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 4: Mo? 424 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: It's an honor to be here. Man. I always wants 425 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: you to know. 426 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 5: With that Cincinnati versus Kansas game, Now you guys get 427 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 5: to have the Darren Peterson experience now where we wait 428 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 5: to find out if he's gonna play, how long he's 429 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 5: gonna play, you know all. 430 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: That we're hopefully doesn't you know, if he's if he's 431 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: really want to do load management. I suggest he'd, you know, 432 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,479 Speaker 2: watch the game, watch maybe take Florie Butdunga with him. 433 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: That'd be great. 434 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 5: You know what, Florrie seems to play every time I 435 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 5: a Jayhawk if you have sure, yeah, but uh, Florie 436 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 5: seems to have find a way to get out there. 437 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: Every time he does well. If Darren plays, maybe he'll 438 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: pull himself out. We'll see. You never know, Bearcats. 439 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: Cats could could use win against a good team, whether 440 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 2: or not Darren Peterson plays. 441 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: How are you welcome to town. I'm doing great. It's 442 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: nice to get here a little early. 443 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 5: I actually got to go to training today, talk to 444 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 5: Pat Noonan and some of the guys for a little bit. 445 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 5: And and when I got my schedule to start the 446 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 5: season and I saw us coming to Cincinnati, I got 447 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 5: fired up because you guys have one of the best 448 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 5: fan bases, one of the best atmosphere. 449 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: Probably sounds like pandering, but that's that's the truth. We 450 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: agree in all of Major League soccer. 451 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 5: And so you know, as a broadcaster, you want to 452 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 5: go to places where it matters, places where there's an 453 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 5: intensity amongst the fan base, a good atmosphere. Pat Nowton 454 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 5: said that today at his news conference. He said they 455 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 5: asked him what he was most excited about. He said, 456 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 5: getting back in front of the fans and feeling that energy. 457 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 5: You feel it, you feel it in that building. 458 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: It's interesting because one of the talking points from Chris 459 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 2: Albright this offseason was well things kind of got stale. 460 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: And I don't think that was a shot at the fans. 461 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: It was a shot at the fact that at home 462 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: last year they left a little to be desired. 463 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, And and their game against Atlanta United is an 464 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 5: example of that. Atlanta was a bad team last year 465 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 5: and they didn't beat him either time they played him, 466 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 5: including in this place. And I had a chance to 467 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 5: call a few games here over the past two years 468 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 5: in which the results were not what. 469 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: You would have expected coming in. 470 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 5: You know, you thought Cincinnati should have been the favorite 471 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 5: in those games, and they didn't always come away with 472 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 5: a win. But I was here for the Lucho a 473 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 5: cost to return and that was one of the more 474 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 5: memorable matches I've ever covered because of the fans in 475 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 5: that one, they let him have it. It shook him 476 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 5: and and I think that really stood out. So I 477 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 5: think it's going to be obviously. I mean, it's the opener. 478 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 5: Everybody's got to be fired up. I would think right now. 479 00:23:59,080 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: Would think so. 480 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 2: And we've talked about this a lot. I talked about 481 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: this with your partner Devin Curry yesterday. You go back 482 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: to a year ago and the season starting and it 483 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 2: kind of felt like, good, there's a game, because there 484 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: was all this stuff swirling around the team, the Lutuacosta thing. 485 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: You know, they go and get a Vander and it's like, well, 486 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 2: hell's that going to work. They had players who didn't 487 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: ShW up for preseason training. It just it felt like 488 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: there was a lot of upheaval and this year serene 489 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: by comparison. That can't help but be anything but a 490 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: good thing. Talking to Pat noon ad heesher feels like 491 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 2: it is. 492 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 5: I mean, that was the first thing he brought up 493 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 5: when I asked him, how are you feeling about this 494 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 5: season going into it? And that's exactly what he pointed out. 495 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 5: Nobody's holding out, nobody's demanding out. You know, most our 496 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 5: guys are healthy. We've had a chance to train together 497 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 5: for a while and implement some of these new ideas. 498 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 5: You mentioned, the idea of being a little stale. I 499 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 5: think a lot of that's in the attack right. They 500 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 5: want to find a way to create more chances for 501 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 5: players to score and not just rely on dank A 502 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 5: being amazing in an individual moment or Evander being you know, 503 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 5: incredible in an individual moment. But they got to create 504 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 5: some more chances outside of that, and it's a lot 505 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 5: easier to develop some of those things if you actually 506 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 5: have all your players up in lockstep. 507 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: I think that's an observation that folks have made, even 508 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: going back to when Luco was here, that you know, 509 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 2: those are great individual players, but at times it feels 510 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: like the attack is depends on those guys a little 511 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: bit too much. 512 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I mean, like to use a basketball analogy, 513 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 5: it's almost like give it, give it to Jordan and 514 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 5: let them create, you know, as opposed to let's get 515 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 5: some good ball movement. Let's you know, let's let's make 516 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 5: some easy baskets for ourselves. Boy, XG you got thrown 517 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 5: around a lot when Chris Albright talked at the end 518 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 5: of last year, right, and and XG is a polarizing 519 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 5: term in the soccer world because it's, uh, are we 520 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 5: just starting to talk about math problems and things like 521 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 5: that now? But I think that the point that they're 522 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 5: saying is we've got to get the ball inside the 523 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 5: penalty area a little bit more. They've got to get 524 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 5: a better connection between denk a. Here's here's a number 525 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 5: for you that my guy John at Cincinnati helped me 526 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 5: look up today. There were only five occasions last year 527 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 5: year where either dank A assisted a goal to Evander 528 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 5: or a Vander assisted a goal to dank kdan K 529 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 5: set up Evander for one goal last year, Wow, and 530 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 5: Evander did it four times for dan K. 531 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: And these are two MVP caliber players. 532 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, And it doesn't sound like it's because they don't 533 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 5: like each other or anything like that. 534 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: They just have to be more aware of one another and. 535 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 5: What they're each good at, and where they want the 536 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 5: ball and how to get them the ball. That's obviously 537 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 5: been a big point of emphasis. So I'm gonna be 538 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 5: looking for that connection tomorrow. 539 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 2: For sure, only one team can win an MLS Cup. 540 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 2: But you know, I go back to a couple of 541 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: years ago, they lose a heartbreaker to Columbus in the 542 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: Eastern Final, and I felt like that cast a paul 543 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 2: over the entire offseason. Do you think that did that 544 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 2: with the way they were just manhandled against Miami last year? 545 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: Did that Do you feel like they've moved on? 546 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: Do you feel like they've you know, turned the page 547 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: quickly or is that something that could sort of hover 548 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 2: over the sort of the season. 549 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: I think of those two. 550 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 5: Results very differently. You're closer to the situation in many 551 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 5: ways than I am. But as I look at them 552 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 5: from the outside, I say that first one cast to 553 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 5: Paul because if I remember quickly, that was the Matt 554 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 5: Mioska suspended because he got in trouble. 555 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: With uh, you know, and and the winning the game 556 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: to nothing. 557 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so more like it that was our moment 558 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 5: and we let it slip away. We're also Columbus, Yeah, 559 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 5: and it's rival this one last year. I almost think 560 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 5: it's it's it's it could be a long term, a 561 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 5: good thing, because I don't think you're having the conversation 562 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 5: from Chris Albright and the organization about how we need 563 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 5: and they made a change in the coaching staff, right, 564 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 5: and a change in the approach. I don't think they 565 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 5: do that unless they have that result where it's like, Okay, 566 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 5: here's the standard now and you've got to get to 567 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 5: this if you want to win that trophy. So I 568 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 5: think the one two years ago it's more like, oh, 569 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 5: darn it, we shot ourselves in the foot. We screwed 570 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 5: it up when we had it. I think last year 571 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 5: it was more like, all, we need to get better 572 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 5: if we want to be able to win that trophy. 573 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 5: So we've got to change something, and they didn't really. 574 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 5: They changed a little bit of personnel, but not any 575 00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 5: big names. 576 00:27:59,119 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: Nothing. 577 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think it's more about let's change the 578 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 5: way we go about things in the attack a little 579 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 5: bit and see if we can get better in that regard. 580 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 2: I think of that night and I just remember thinking, like, 581 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 2: the FC Cincinnati guys look like they're in awe of 582 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: Messi and I just they just look like they look 583 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: like bystanders more than competitors that night, which to me 584 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: is what was most disappointing. 585 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 5: It's it's the most remarkable thing I've had. I think 586 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 5: four times now I've been able to watch Messi in person. 587 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 5: And this might be a weird analogy to you, but 588 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 5: it's only one I could come up with the first 589 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 5: time I saw him. 590 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: It's like watching Prince and Concert. Wow. Where And the 591 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: reason I say. 592 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 5: That I saw Prince and Concert three times in my life, 593 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 5: I was a pretty big fan when he when it 594 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 5: was his turn to play like a solo or something, 595 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 5: all of the other world class musicians on stage would 596 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 5: watch him in awe like their world class at what 597 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 5: they do. Yet they're still in awe of this man. 598 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 5: And when Messi is involved, that's what happens. Every He 599 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 5: just seems to draw the energy and attention of every 600 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 5: single person in the building, even the players in around 601 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 5: his own players get better. 602 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: He's got it. 603 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 5: Let me make mine Let me you know, I better 604 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 5: be on the on point here with my past to him, 605 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 5: or else Messi's going to be mad at me. Everybody 606 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 5: just seems to kind of uh snap to attention when 607 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 5: they're around him. So Cincinnati is not the only team 608 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 5: that's had that happen. 609 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: We've we've had Messi in Major League Soccer now for 610 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: a while and when he when he joined the league, 611 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: we all talked about his potential impact. Obviously, he's had 612 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: an impact on the league, they won the thing last year. 613 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: But beyond that, where's where have you seen, as somebody 614 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: who's close to the league and go around the country, 615 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: where's his impact been felt the most in Major League Soccer? 616 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 5: I think it's in what I mentioned earlier about Cincinnati 617 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 5: and that it's set a new bar for where everybody 618 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 5: else knows they have to get. 619 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: Now in the league. 620 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 5: You know, I use Atlanta United, the upcoming opponent for 621 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 5: Cincinnati as an example, I've been doing some appearances on 622 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 5: their media this week and I've told them, you know, look, 623 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 5: your team when they came into the league set a 624 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 5: new standard for what it was going to take to compete. 625 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 5: They you're a juggernaut right in twenty eighteen, back when 626 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 5: Tatsa Martinez was there the first time, ago Almirn was 627 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 5: there the first time, and those were guys that you 628 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 5: hadn't seen coming into the league up until that point. 629 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 5: And they changed the money a little bit and then 630 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 5: every but and I think the Atlanta fans thought, well, 631 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 5: this is how it's gonna be. You know, we're gonna 632 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 5: just roll through this league. We're gonna be the big dogs. 633 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden, other teams like LAFC 634 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 5: got involved and said, oh, we can spend money like that, 635 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 5: and that raised the level. Well, now Messi's here, and 636 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 5: that raises it to a different level and makes people 637 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 5: thinking that. And obviously you get sun young men coming 638 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 5: into LAFC, and I think with the World Cup coming 639 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 5: this summer, you're going to see another influx of teams 640 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 5: around the league going Okay, if we want to really compete, 641 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 5: we're gonna have to and look, Kevin Danke, I think 642 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 5: is an example of that. 643 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: I mean the money they spent on him. 644 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 5: So to me, the biggest impact apart from the eyeballs 645 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 5: coming to the league is that it's it's kind of 646 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 5: setting the tone for everybody else that this is where 647 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 5: the league needs to go. 648 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: Right. A Bukt is with us MLSC some past Apple 649 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 2: TV tomorrow four forty five f C Cincinnati hosting Atlanta. 650 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 2: Major League Soccer is going to change its calendar and 651 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: about a year and a half. 652 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: We're a fan of that. He's a good. 653 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 5: Massively a fan of it. Yeah, I have debates with 654 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 5: people about it. I know that the northern city's are 655 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 5: not as thrilled about it. I come from Kansas City, 656 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 5: where when we when when you start the season it's 657 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 5: miserably cold, then in the middle of the season it's 658 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 5: miserably hot, and then at the end it's cold again. 659 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 5: It's gonna flip around, and I would tell you I 660 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 5: would rather have the good weather at the beginning and 661 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 5: end of the season, particularly the end when teams are 662 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 5: playing for a championship and not going up against football 663 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 5: with rules today, it sucks all the oxygen out of 664 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 5: the room. You don't want your playoffs going on against 665 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 5: college and pro football. 666 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: But more importantly, the transfer windows. 667 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 5: And you probably have heard this conversation, but you know, 668 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 5: Tatsa Martino, we were just talking with him, you know, 669 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 5: getting ready for this Atlanta and I He's said, look, 670 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 5: you can't build teams in the middle of the summer, 671 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 5: but that is the main transfer window for all the 672 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 5: other clubs in the world. So when you want to 673 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 5: do business, you want to buy a player. Those guys 674 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 5: are like, we're not gonna sell our best player in 675 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 5: the middle of a good season, right or you know, 676 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 5: and vice versa. Teams in MLS get stuck with this 677 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 5: conundrum of we're having a great year, but we got 678 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 5: this asset. The teams in Europe want to pay twenty 679 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 5: million dollars for it. If we don't sell them now, 680 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 5: we can't get it. So in the middle of a 681 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,239 Speaker 5: season you got to sell your best player. That just 682 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 5: is not good for business. It's not good for the 683 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 5: fans either, because they're getting all excited then all of 684 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 5: a sudden, you sell your best player. So I think 685 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 5: that's the biggest reason it's going to be a really 686 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 5: good move. And the way I look at it is, 687 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 5: take a little break in the winter time and they 688 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 5: play games. I mean, look, you think it's nice in 689 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 5: Minnesota right now, now, It's. 690 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: Not gonna be nice in Minnesota for three months. 691 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, so you know you're gonna have to 692 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 5: deal with weather challenges in a in a footprint as 693 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 5: big as MLS as You're gonna have weather challenges no 694 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 5: matter what. 695 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 2: I just think, you know, running concurren to the NFL. 696 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: You live in an NFL city, one that we hate. 697 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: But that's neither here nor there. But like you know, 698 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: even in the postseason last year, they're playing Columbus, they're 699 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: playing Miami, and the Bengals are playing the University of 700 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 2: Cincinnati is playing college basketball is just starting. And it 701 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 2: just I don't want to say it gets buried. It does, 702 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: but like it just it gets lost in the shuffle sometimes. 703 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 2: And and to me, you're your your most important games 704 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 2: should should have a larger stage. 705 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 5: I mean, I use that phrase. It the NFL sucks 706 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 5: the oxygen out of the room. It's the only sport 707 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 5: in the United States that I think Major League Soccer 708 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 5: just can't go toe to toe with. 709 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's more popular than. 710 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,719 Speaker 5: The NBA or baseball, although there are reports out there 711 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 5: these days that show that it's up there in terms 712 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 5: of people listing soccer as being as asa toil baseball 713 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 5: goes away for a year, I'm not gonna be fun, 714 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 5: but you know, But but football, Yeah, football is the 715 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 5: one thing I mean looking in Kansas City. Obviously the 716 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 5: Chiefs have really taken it over, but when they're winning 717 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 5: Super Bowl, all of a sudden, Kansas basketball doesn't even 718 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 5: have the same cachet that it does until the football 719 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 5: season's over with. So you're right, and and the flip side, 720 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 5: you play these games in May, you play in your 721 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 5: MLS Cup final in May. It's okay to go up 722 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 5: against a regular season baseball game. Even if people love baseball. 723 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,479 Speaker 5: It's a regular season game. It's one of one hundred 724 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 5: and sixty two. There's not that urgency to watch. So yeah, 725 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 5: I think it's better for all reasons. Speaking of Kansas City, 726 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 5: you've written a book. You guys are getting World Cup matches. 727 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 5: We tried, we're not getting a but you you've written 728 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 5: a book about Kansas City, the World Cup and how 729 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:33,919 Speaker 5: as you put it. 730 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: It's become the heart of American soccer. That's right. 731 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 5: It's called perfect pitch. How Kansas City became the heart 732 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 5: of American soccer and won the World Cup. And I 733 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 5: would my appeal, if you're from Cincinnati, go well, I 734 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 5: already hate Kansas City. 735 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: Whatever I want to write that book, I get it. 736 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 5: Here's here's my thirty second elevator pitch to someone Cincinnati. 737 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 5: My my Uber driver out to the training facility today, 738 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 5: showed up in a big FC Cincinnati hat and ticket 739 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 5: holder since the stadium opened. We had a long talk 740 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 5: about what a great atmosphere it is here, and I 741 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 5: told him this Kansas City is nothing more than a 742 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 5: microcosm of Middle American soccer growth. And I'm just using 743 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 5: Kansas City because I know that story the best, and 744 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 5: because the World Cup's coming there to really tell the 745 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 5: story to the rest of the world about how soccer 746 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 5: came to be a real culturally vibrant thing in the 747 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 5: United States. 748 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: And I think Cincinnati is a perfect example of that. Right. 749 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 5: I don't know about you, but for me, growing up 750 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 5: in Kansas City, it was kind of a niche thing. 751 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 5: When I was a little kid, there was an indoor 752 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 5: soccer team, and you know, kids played youth soccer until 753 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 5: they got old enough to play other sports. But because 754 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 5: of some really diehard fans that fought hard for it, 755 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 5: and some visionary leaders like Lamar Hunt, who is responsible 756 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 5: as anybody for bringing soccer to America, and the owners 757 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,439 Speaker 5: that decided to invest in a real stadium that people 758 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 5: could that the fans can feel proud of. All of 759 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 5: a sudden it became a booming thing. That's the story 760 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 5: in Cincinnati, right, And I think I want people that 761 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 5: come to the United States for this World Cup to 762 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 5: realize there is a vibrant soccer culture in this country. 763 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 5: It might not be like theirs is, but in some 764 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 5: ways it's just as impressive, if not more so, because 765 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 5: they don't have to fight for soccer in their places. 766 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 5: You know, the people that love soccer and Cincinnati have 767 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 5: had to fight for it, right and then they had 768 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 5: to suffer through three wooden spoons and all that, and 769 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 5: they're still here and I think they deserve credit for 770 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 5: what it took to make soccer relevant in this market. 771 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 5: And so yeah, if you get a chance, it's a 772 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 5: short read, it's only one hundred and ninety pages. It's 773 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 5: got some incredible stories about just the history of how 774 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 5: The supporter shield was invented by a fan who was 775 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 5: a sophomore in college at the University of Kansas. Literally 776 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 5: raised two thousand bucks on a national nerdy soccer campaign 777 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 5: and had a gallon of his art class design it 778 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 5: for two thousand dollars worth a piece of metal that 779 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 5: was the original supporter shield. Now they got a big 780 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 5: fancy one that they give out because the original was stolen, 781 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 5: by the way, and no one knows where it is. Really, Yeah, 782 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 5: that's that's apparently. 783 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,439 Speaker 1: So somebody is walking around with around with the guys. 784 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm not going to throw any you know. 785 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 5: Eating general off to you know, like, yeah, there's there's 786 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 5: stories from the big guys like Lamar Hunt, who's got 787 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 5: the US Open Cup trophy named after him and who 788 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,720 Speaker 5: brought soccer to America in many ways in Kansas City, 789 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 5: but also stories about the average fan who just decided, 790 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 5: you know, I want to make something special. We need 791 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 5: to make something to honor the best supporter shield that 792 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 5: you guys want a couple of years ago. Yes, if 793 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 5: you like stories like that, I think you'll like the books. 794 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 5: So it's it's called perfect Pitch. I'd love it if 795 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 5: people would. You can pre order it right now. It'll 796 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 5: be out May twenty six, right in time to get 797 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 5: you ready for the World Cup. 798 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: Well, we're jealous. 799 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 2: We're jealous of a lot of things here for a 800 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 2: lot of different perspectives. But we're jealous of the fact 801 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 2: you guys are World Cup matches because we we held 802 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 2: out hope. M sure, I realistically thought we were gonna 803 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 2: get World Cup matches. 804 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 5: I'm afraid we were competing against each other that one, 805 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 5: you know, because obviously New York and LA and Miami 806 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 5: they're all getting it. They know they're going to get 807 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 5: the world they don't even have to try, right, Places 808 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 5: like Cincinnati Kansas City got to fight with each other, 809 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 5: you know, and unfortunately that's what happened. So come to 810 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 5: Kansas City for the World Cup. You can stay at 811 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 5: my place. Oh I gotta really gow up, mattress. Yeah, okay, 812 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 5: that's fine, that's fine. 813 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 2: The last time I was in Kansas City was that 814 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: second AFC Championship game, and I still can't feel my toes. 815 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: So you know, so, yeah, was that the one you 816 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: guys got us? That was the one we lost? 817 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 2: Okay, the one, the first one I didn't get to 818 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 2: go to the second one I went to and I 819 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 2: remember this when the Bengals got that. 820 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: We talk about this all the time. 821 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 2: Bengals get the ball a little bit more than two 822 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 2: minutes to go, and I remember this sound in the 823 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 2: stadium where it's like, holy crap, this is gonna happen again. 824 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: And then you know the rest is history. But yeah, 825 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: it was. 826 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 2: I went in twenty eighteen, was the first time I 827 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 2: went to a Chiefs game. The Bengals played there on 828 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 2: a Sunday night and got destroyed. And it was year 829 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: one of Mahomes late October, and it was like, oh boy, 830 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 2: this is about to take off and it did so 831 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 2: yeahs Marvin Lewis was still our coach, so it. 832 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: Was a little bit different. 833 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 5: Hey man, it's uh, what's gonna happen with I mean, 834 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 5: is he gonna get it? 835 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: You know, like, uh we you. 836 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 2: Know, if they're if they're better this year, then chances 837 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 2: are everything's going to be fine. If the year go 838 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 2: sideways again, then he's gonna want out. I wouldn't stun anybody. 839 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,879 Speaker 2: Nobody wants to hear that. I will get people mad 840 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 2: at me for saying right. 841 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 5: Decided to me to bring up I gotta be careful here. 842 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 5: You know, I think he's incredible, and uh, I mean 843 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 5: I think the best those are the best rivalry. That's 844 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 5: like the best rivalry the Chiefs have had. 845 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,760 Speaker 1: I like these in sports. 846 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 2: I like organic rivalries that are born out of commonalty 847 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 2: and great games. And that's what happened with the Bengals 848 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 2: and Chiefs. So hopefully it's revitalized down the road because 849 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 2: both teams were obviously down this year. 850 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 5: Enjoy the match tomorrow, have a great call. Hey, thanks, Hey, 851 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 5: thanks for having me on the show. And that offer 852 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 5: stands you come to town for the World Cup. Let 853 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 5: me know, and just just one last plug. You know, 854 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 5: Apple TV, you're not free. It's not MLS Season passing anymore. 855 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 5: It's on TV. Yes, obviously it's gonna be a great 856 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 5: atmosphere there and and a lot of good stories lines 857 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 5: in this game as well. Right lot, the guy that 858 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 5: broke Nick Haglin's ribs is coming back into the building too, 859 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 5: Oh yeahs since they played each other. And I'm a 860 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 5: little interested to hear what kind of reception he gets in. 861 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 2: This I just hope he stays away from Nick. Nick's 862 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 2: had a hard go, but man. 863 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: He's surprised if his teammates have a little something to 864 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: say for him too. I don't know. 865 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 2: Nick can go over here, and Nick's teammates can enforce 866 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 2: because we finally got Nick healthy and keep him healthy. 867 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 5: You know, he's a Cincinnati guy, so he's he to me. 868 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 5: He represents the club as well as anybody. 869 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah no, in the city, as well as anybody. I 870 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 2: can't thank you enough. Come next time you're in town. 871 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 2: Now you have to come up and visit in studio. 872 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 2: I love to man, this is a great studio. You 873 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 2: gotta get set up here. It's not bad. It's it 874 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 2: has its it has its charm, yes, no question about it. 875 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: It is. We are way late, tarn I'm sorry. 876 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 2: Four from five o'clock, natebe Katie Tomorrow mls the game 877 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 2: on Apple TV. He has the call with Devin Curve 878 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 2: four forty five. Is the kick a little bit earlier 879 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 2: than usual? 880 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: There you go. Four from five o'clock. 881 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 2: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports. 882 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic. 883 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 3: From the UC Health Traffic Center. Around forty percent of 884 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 3: cancers are preventable. 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