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Speaker 1: The Browns and NFL News Enterviner interviewed Chargers defense Corterior

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Speaker 1: Kelsey Chevallet. I'm Lions Bacalister and what a treat our

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Speaker 1: first guest tonight man. You talk about a season a

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Speaker 1: looking out and you're seeing that what is what does

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Speaker 1: this mean? What's this like?

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Speaker 7: It's incredibly humbly something I don't take for granted, something

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Speaker 7: I'm very thankful for.

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Speaker 5: And uh, I.

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Speaker 7: Try to just cherish all these opportunities to meet our

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Speaker 7: fans and you know, hopefully we can win a lot

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Speaker 7: of ball games for this, for this amazing city and

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Speaker 7: this amazing fan base.

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Speaker 1: What's it like to work as long and hard as

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Speaker 1: you have in this game and have the season you

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Speaker 1: have and then get rewarded with a contract extension or

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Speaker 1: not even an extension you're a free ex. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's an incredible feeling. I don't know if

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Speaker 7: I have the words to to really explain. Uh, you

447
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Speaker 7: know how it feels. It's surreal, humbling. You know, I knew,

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Speaker 7: I knew I definitely wanted to be back in Cincinnati

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Speaker 7: and as great as the money is, and yet you know,

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Speaker 7: we get paid a lot of money to play this game.

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Speaker 7: But I wasn't going to go somewhere just because somebody

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Speaker 7: was handing me the biggest contract. I wanted to go

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Speaker 7: somewhere where I felt like we had a chance to

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Speaker 7: a win, win some special ballgames, but somewhere where I

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Speaker 7: was comfortable, where I had great relationship with my teammates

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Speaker 7: and the coaching staff, and really I wanted to help

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Speaker 7: build something, you know, and I really do truly believe

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Speaker 7: we're building something.

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Speaker 5: Special here and I'm very grateful to be a part

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Speaker 5: of it.

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Speaker 1: I'll ask you a similar question to what I asked Nick.

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Speaker 1: You were you were in seventy games last year. What

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Speaker 1: did it mean to be available, ready and able that

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Speaker 1: many times?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's you know, when I when I first signed

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Speaker 7: here in December of twenty three, that's that's something that

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Speaker 7: I prided myself on my entire career, and so when

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Speaker 7: I wasn't able to do that in twenty four that

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Speaker 7: that left a very sour taste in my mouth.

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Speaker 5: I felt bad.

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Speaker 7: I felt like I let the organization down, I let

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Speaker 7: my teammates down, I let all these fans down. And so,

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Speaker 7: you know, sometimes injuries are out of our control. I

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Speaker 7: had the hernia surgery going into the season, and I

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Speaker 7: wasn't able to prepare myself the way I normally do

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Speaker 7: in the off season, and so as soon as we

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Speaker 7: ended in Chicago the twenty four season, you know, work

478
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Speaker 7: started right away to get myself back to who I

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Speaker 7: believe I can be as a pitcher, who I can

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Speaker 7: be as a teammate, and what I can provide for

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Speaker 7: major league club, and so try to put my best

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Speaker 7: foot forward. That doesn't always mean that results are going

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Speaker 7: to go the way I want them to, but I

484
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Speaker 7: definitely wanted to be out there as much as I can,

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Speaker 7: and hopefully I can do the same thing this year

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Speaker 7: and be out there a bunch of times.

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Speaker 1: Take me back, it was September. You guys are in

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Speaker 1: a playoff, chase high leverage moments every night in your

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Speaker 1: saving games, the adrenalines flow. What is that? Like? I

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Speaker 1: see the smile on your base. I mean, that's what

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Speaker 1: it's all about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the best.

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Speaker 7: It's the best feeling in the world going out there

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Speaker 7: with the ball in your hand, game on the line.

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Speaker 7: You know, obviously, it takes a team to get to

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Speaker 7: that spot, you know, Like you know, our offense has

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Speaker 7: to score runs, our starting pitchers have to get deep

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Speaker 7: into games, our bullpend has to get the met to

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Speaker 7: the ninth inning with a chance to win the game.

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Speaker 7: So when you go out there, man, there's there's a

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Speaker 7: lot of weight that comes with that moment, and so

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Speaker 7: I don't take it lightly.

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Speaker 5: We've got to super talented group, and I'm.

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Speaker 7: Just grateful for every opportunity I get, and you know,

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Speaker 7: hopefully I can do close to what I did last year,

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Speaker 7: if not better, and then we can win a division

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Speaker 7: this year.

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Speaker 1: You've got three new arms in that bullpen, and there's

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Speaker 1: so many moving parts. I hope I am keeping this straight.

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Speaker 1: Pierce Johnson is your friend, correct.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, one of my best friends.

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Speaker 1: Tell us, yeah, tell us the story of your Your

513
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Speaker 1: best friend is now on the team and you you

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Speaker 1: were doing like some recruiting, like, dude, you got to

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Speaker 1: come here, take us through this.

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Speaker 5: Yees.

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Speaker 7: So he uh, he had a club option with Atlanta

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Speaker 7: coming into this season, and I thought it was a

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Speaker 7: no brainer that it was going to get picked up.

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Speaker 7: And so when it wasn't, obviously, you know, I called

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Speaker 7: him immediate. Well actually he he called me probably five

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Speaker 7: minutes after it was declined and said, hey, let's go

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Speaker 7: play somewhere together. And I said, all right, well I'm

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Speaker 7: going to Cincinnati. They don't know that yet, but I'm

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Speaker 7: that's where I'm going and uh so I was. I

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Speaker 7: was in his ear all off season and I had,

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Speaker 7: you know, my wife. Jordan was talking to his wife

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Speaker 7: Christina and talking about like, hey, we could do this.

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Speaker 5: You guys can live here, we can live there.

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Speaker 7: Are kids get along great, and so you know, aside

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Speaker 7: from that, he's a super talented pitcher that has a

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Speaker 7: pitch that we don't have. You know, we don't we

533
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Speaker 7: don't have a curveball in our bullpen that he has,

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Speaker 7: and so it adds a different wrinkle, a different look

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Speaker 7: from our team that Tito can go to h so

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Speaker 7: that the you know, the opposing hitters aren't seeing the

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Speaker 7: same pitch twice in.

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Speaker 5: A game or in a series.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, which just you know, gives us a better opportunity

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Speaker 7: to come away with series wins. And so yeah, him,

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Speaker 7: Caleb Ferguson brought Burke Man. Our bullpen has a chance

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Speaker 7: to be really, really good, and so you know it's

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Speaker 7: our job to got there now and execute at a

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Speaker 7: high level.

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Speaker 1: You know, It's funny you mentioned the curve because I'm

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Speaker 1: a big baseball sapant dork, and I noticed he throws

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Speaker 1: it about eighty two percent of the time. That's a

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Speaker 1: nasty curve ball.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's you know, it's arguably one of the best

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Speaker 7: curve balls in the world. And so to have that

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Speaker 7: that weapon added to our group, you know, it's it's

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Speaker 7: unique to to him and we don't have that. And

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Speaker 7: so you know, Tony's got the really good sweeper. You know,

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Speaker 7: my mix is my fastball and splitter. Sam Males got

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Speaker 7: the left handed breaking ball going the other way. You know,

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Speaker 7: Caleb Person's kind of got it all with the upshoot heater,

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Speaker 7: He's got a really sneaky arm path. Connor Phillips what

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Speaker 7: he was able to do, Luis may Zach Maxwell. It's

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Speaker 7: a deep group.

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Speaker 5: It's a very talented group, and I'm really happy to

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Speaker 5: be a part of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your your friendship goes back to where what when

563
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Speaker 1: did you get first?

564
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Speaker 7: Cross paths in San Diego? In twenty twenty and twenty

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Speaker 7: twenty one. He had been in Japan in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 7: I got traded to the Padres the day before spring

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Speaker 7: training of twenty twenty. He had signed a I believe

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Speaker 7: a two year deal with the Padres. So we were

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Speaker 7: together in twenty and twenty one, and then I got

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Speaker 7: traded on opening day of twenty two, and so we've been,

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Speaker 7: you know, kind of hoping that we would get a

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Speaker 7: chance to play together again. At some point we were lockermates,

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Speaker 7: we were catch partners, and so hopefully, hopefully Reds fans

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Speaker 7: fall in love with them.

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Speaker 5: You know, the way my family.

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Speaker 1: Has that is awesome. I'm so happy you could stop up.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for us spending time. Congrats on the new d

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Speaker 1: il and have a great twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: Thank you appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Emilio pa God everybody, we'll take a time out of

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Speaker 1: continue at sports Talk from Red's pest, seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go, make it our way through

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Speaker 1: our first of three big hours of sports talk tonight

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Speaker 1: here on seven hundred WLW RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented

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Speaker 1: by Kelsey Chevalet. I'm alliance Pacatister. Thanks to Nicolodolo for

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Speaker 1: stopping by, Thanks Amelio Pagan for stopping by. Man, let's

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Speaker 1: go straight to the top, ladies and gentlemen, My next

588
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Speaker 1: guest guided the Cincinnati Reds to their first full season

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Speaker 1: playoff appearance since twenty thirteen. Give it up to Terry Francota. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: it is awesome to see you. If I could dork

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Speaker 1: out for just a second. I pulled up the nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety two South Bend White Sox roster because I was

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Speaker 1: the dorky sportscaster at WSBTTV and you were in your

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Speaker 1: first season with the South Bend White Sox and you

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Speaker 1: were very kind. I don't expect you remember this, but

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Speaker 1: you were very kind doing live shots from Coveleski Stadium.

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Speaker 8: That was it.

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Speaker 1: We're both very old, aren't we.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say that that makes me feel older.

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Speaker 3: That was actually a wonderful place to break in. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I have great memories there. Uh it's a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. You know, i'd almost forgotten. Carlton Fisk

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Speaker 1: did a rehabit Semon game.

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Speaker 3: I have a great picture in my office at home

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Speaker 3: because you hit a home run, yes, and he's round

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Speaker 3: the third and I'm kind of shaking his hand and

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Speaker 3: I put it up in my wall.

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Speaker 1: Awesome. How how how sad? I don't want to say satisfying,

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Speaker 1: but to come back and lead a team to the postseason.

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Speaker 1: I know you didn't get as far as you want it,

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Speaker 1: but when you reflect on what you got done, it

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Speaker 1: had to be pretty exciting for you to think about.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean our to be truthful.

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Speaker 3: I mean, our goal isn't to win eighty three games

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Speaker 3: and kind of sneak into the playoffs now saying that

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Speaker 3: I'm glad we did. Yeah, but our trajectory has to

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Speaker 3: be going this way. And as long as that's the case, okay,

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Speaker 3: then I can live with what we did.

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Speaker 1: Last year.

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Speaker 3: We had a lot of guys that were going through

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Speaker 3: things for the first time, and I reminded them after

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Speaker 3: the last game. I said, hey, remember what it felt

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Speaker 3: like the pop champagne. I said, but also remember what

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Speaker 3: it felt like to be sent home before you're ready

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Speaker 3: to go home, because I think both things can help you.

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Speaker 1: I just talked with Emilio and I thought he brought

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Speaker 1: up a great point about the addition of Pierce Johnson

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Speaker 1: and his curveball, and how that bullpen has so many

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Speaker 1: different looks. How big is that to be able to

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Speaker 1: go different look to different look to different look against hitters.

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Speaker 3: So when we were going through good times last year,

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Speaker 3: our bullpen was rested and deep, and when we struggled,

633
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Speaker 3: we were relying on guys like Santion Pagone way too much.

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Speaker 3: Now we've got some depth we added some left handers,

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Speaker 3: so and it's it's not just when you're winning, but

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Speaker 3: you know, when you're down by two in the sixth

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Speaker 3: guys give you a chance to come back and win

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Speaker 3: some of those games and also not bury the guys

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Speaker 3: at the end of the game. But you make a

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Speaker 3: good point because there's different styles. We have a couple

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Speaker 3: of different left these different looks the right. He's not

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Speaker 3: like Pierce Johnson coming in with a breaking ball, So

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Speaker 3: we can match up against certain guys in lineups a

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Speaker 3: lot better.

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Speaker 1: We know at times last season you were offensively challenged

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Speaker 1: to an extent. How big is and how excited are

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Speaker 1: you to get a bounce back season from somebody like

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Speaker 1: Matt McClain. What would that be?

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Speaker 3: Well, we need it, you know, And I got stubborn

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Speaker 3: with him last year because I believe in him so much.

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Speaker 3: But having Marte start the season fresh out and right field,

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Speaker 3: having mclaney you're removed from shoulder, having Steer hopefully be

653
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 3: the player he was after he got through that April,

654
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 3: that should help us. Now again, we're not going to

655
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: leave the leg in runs, is my guess. That's just

656
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: being honest. But I would rather try to play with

657
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 3: a really good pitching staff and team that catches the ball,

658
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: than when you score, it's meaningful.

659
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Speaker 6: Trying to win ten to nine is really hard.

660
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Speaker 3: You got to do it sometimes, but it's hard way

661
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: to play.

662
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Speaker 1: If you are going to have nights where runs are

663
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: tough to come by, you you took a different approach

664
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Speaker 1: than the previous year with this team, and you tap

665
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Speaker 1: the brakes a little bit more on the run game.

666
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Speaker 1: Might it lead to if you're not going to hit

667
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: a ton of home runs, might it lead to you

668
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: having to push the button a little bit more from

669
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Speaker 1: a run game standpoint, Well, you know there's a give

670
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: and take there, Yeah, there is.

671
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Speaker 3: It's very hard to be ultra aggressive on the basis

672
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: without making outs on the basis. My goal wasn't to

673
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 3: see how many stolen bases we could steal. It was

674
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Speaker 3: to see how many times we could be safe leaving

675
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: the league. Making outs on the bases isn't a goal. Yeah,

676
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Speaker 3: And the one thing we talk about all the time.

677
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 3: Everybody wants to be aggressive. Being aggressive is fun like

678
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: by nature. Every manager, every coach wants to be aggressive.

679
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: But I told him myself, we got to be intelligent

680
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: on top of it, or it's just not doing this

681
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 3: enough good and we're relying on luck and we don't

682
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 3: want to do that.

683
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Speaker 1: You made a decision to come back, and you got

684
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: back into the grind of one sixty two? Was it?

685
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: Was it everything you wanted it to, the night to night,

686
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: the stomach churning moments. What is that like as you

687
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: do that? Little, yeah, little, I know what you're talking about.

688
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the same things that you kinda crave,

689
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: like you just said, are some of the same things

690
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: that can wear you out. And I just had gotten

691
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: to a point in Cleveland where I was worn out

692
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: and I didn't think I was doing my job very well,

693
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: and I didn't feel good about it. Went home and

694
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 3: I had no thoughts of coming back, and Nick and

695
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: Brad called and they came out to my house and

696
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: I sat in my rocking chair and we were probably

697
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 3: twenty minutes into it, and I started saying we and

698
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa, wha, whoa slow down. But you know

699
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: what's nice for me is I'm a year into it now,

700
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: and I feel better about the people I'm around because

701
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: there's always a little honeymoon period.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: I love the people I work with and worked for,

704
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 3: and I get a big kick out of trying to

705
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: figure things out and seeing how we're going to succeed.

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Speaker 1: One of the maybe the question I get asked most

707
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: day to day with the Reds is the lineup in

708
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Speaker 1: the batting order? What goes into And we only have

709
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: two minutes, so I'm not asking you to do a

710
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: whole speech on it, but in general terms day to day,

711
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: let fans know what goes into your process of putting

712
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: together a batting order in the simplest terms anyway, because

713
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: it gets really deep. No.

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Speaker 3: You know, back in my day, the fastest guy let

715
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Speaker 3: off and they didn't care if he got on base

716
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 3: or not. But if he was fast, well I want guy.

717
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: I don't want a base clogger up there. I don't

718
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: want guys that can get on base. So you have

719
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Speaker 3: the guys in the middle of the order that can

720
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Speaker 3: hopefully drive them in. One of my biggest challenges is

721
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Speaker 3: we have TJ leading off and we have Elegant and

722
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: third is getting the right in between them, so we

723
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: don't give the opposing team a free inning where they

724
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: bringing a lefty and it So there's things like that

725
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: that you try to think about. And then down the

726
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: bottom of the order. We can be a little more

727
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: aggressive with guys running because they're at the bottom of

728
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Speaker 3: the order and.

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Speaker 1: The added element. I think it's lost at times. There

730
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: are guys who might be a little bit digged. There's

731
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Speaker 1: guys who might not have a good matchup. There's guys

732
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: who you need to get a day off. I mean,

733
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Speaker 1: that's all part of the process.

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Speaker 8: Isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know what, and it's part of the fun.

736
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a huge Arizona basketball fan. Path I've

737
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: yelled at Loudols and Tommy Lloyd. It's just become a fan.

738
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Speaker 3: I get it. When you're a fan, you're supposed to

739
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 3: be passionate. Why is he doing that? But I have

740
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: learned if you manage like a fan, you'll end up

741
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Speaker 3: being a fan.

742
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Speaker 1: And I don't want to do that.

743
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: I want to keep my job.

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed the I Well, I got one more question,

745
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: because you didn't get to experience this before.

746
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Speaker 3: What do you think of all this? Okay, I'm gonna

747
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 3: tell you the truth. Yeah, it's an honor to be here.

748
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: When it's this cold and this many people come out

749
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: because they're excited about the Reds. I'll come here anytime

750
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: you want. I mean, I think this is really cool

751
00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: for us, just so you know that.

752
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: How about Terry Francona. Everybody take a time out going

753
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: to check on news and continue from Reds Fest seven

754
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: hundred WLW. Anyway, we go our number two of three

755
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Speaker 1: tonight Reds Fest from the new Duke Energy Convention Center.

756
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: We are happy to be back two years away from

757
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Speaker 1: this and this is the night we we kick back

758
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Speaker 1: and talk segment to SEGMA with different members of the

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Speaker 1: Reds organization. Casey just popped by. He just bought Ah

760
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: my son, not Sean, Casey, my son. Case You just

761
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: bought a Bronson Arroyo album that Bronson autographed. And he's

762
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: very excited about a sweatshirt he bought earlier which I

763
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: might have to buy as well. We have talked with Nicolodolo,

764
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Speaker 1: We've talked with Emilio Pagan. Really cool that Terry Francona

765
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Speaker 1: stoped by with us. We are at the mercy of availability,

766
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Speaker 1: and when the next member of the organization becomes available,

767
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Speaker 1: they'll be up on the stage and we'll break down

768
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Speaker 1: a little baseball conversation with him. If you're heading out tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: The schedule for tomorrow, and it starts Let's see those

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00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: doors open at eleven tomorrow. The Xavier University Sarah Ceremony

771
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: kicks things off at eleven h five, The Reds Cooking

772
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: Show at eleven twenty five, Kids only press Conference That's

773
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: Always Cool at twelve ten, The Red's Rookie Round Table

774
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: at one thirty, Reds Feud at two thirty, The Gym

775
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: Day Podcast three, The Hot Stove Report three fifty, Are

776
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,959
Speaker 1: You Smarter Than a Red's Head Member at four thirty five,

777
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: and the Mascot Press Conference at five point fifteen. Another

778
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: busy day tomorrow here at the Duke Energy Convention Center.

779
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: It runs eleven until six thirty. By the way, speaking

780
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: of the prospect or the Rookie round Table noticed, MLB

781
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: Pipeline today released their list of the top ten first

782
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: base prospects in the game. Sal Stewart is number one

783
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: and at number six is Cam Collier. So two of

784
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: the Reds prospects wind up in the top six of

785
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: the top first baseman prospect in baseball. Yesterday, Alfredo Duno

786
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: wound up the Reds catcher. I want to say Duno

787
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: wound up fourth on that list. He's here tonight. I

788
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 1: think he wound up fourth. And keep in mind Alfredo Duno,

789
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: the catcher who played at High or at Low A

790
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: Daytona this year, was the Florida State League MVP at

791
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: the age of nineteen. This past season, he just turned twenty.

792
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: I believe in January at the age of nineteen, hit

793
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: two to eighty seven at High as, on base percentage

794
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: was pressing three point eighty, had an on base streak

795
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: if I remember of like thirty seven straight games, was

796
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: Player of the Month in the Florida State League twice,

797
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: and won the Florida State League MVP. Now he's only

798
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: played at High A, and I would expect he starts

799
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: at dayton this year, but remember the name from a

800
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Speaker 1: catching prospect standpoint of Alfredo Duno. All right, let me

801
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: while I've got a chance, let me update the activity

802
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: list of this team. In the offseason, the comings and goings,

803
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: and it was really cool talk with Emilio about his

804
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: friendship with Pierce Johnson and how Pierce Johnson sent him

805
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: a text within minutes of the Brave's not picking up

806
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: his option and Emilio more or less recruiting him to

807
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: come here. They have added this offseason this season through

808
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: signings Pierce Johnson, the right hand to be laver. They've

809
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: added the lefty Caleb Ferguson. They've added through as signing

810
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 1: JJ Blade the outfielder. They have acquired in trade Dame Myers,

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00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: outfielder from the Marlins. They've acquired Brock Burke, who will

812
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: tell you about here in a second. He came in

813
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: the deal late last night in the three way trade

814
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: from the Angels. They claimed off waivers a catcher named

815
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: Ben Rourtvett, who is was a Dodger last year, in fact,

816
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: played against the Reds, got a couple of the bats

817
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: in the postseason wildcard series, and the Reds claimed him

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00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: on waivers. Ben is a catcher who it's gonna be

819
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: interesting to see what happens because he's out of options,

820
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: meaning unless the Reds are going to carry three catchers,

821
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: he will if they try to send him to Triple

822
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: A to begin the season. He's placed on waivers and

823
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: could be claimed by somebody. So I don't know what

824
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: that means in terms of his future begin the season,

825
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: but they claim him because in baseball today, you can

826
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: never have enough catchers. You can never have enough left

827
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: handed relievers. You can never have enough catchers. They re

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Speaker 1: signed Emilio We talked with him. They re signed Sam Mall.

829
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: They declined the options on three Austin Hayes, who Nick

830
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: Crawl admitted last night they've been in conversation with Austin

831
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: Is on the free agent market. They declined the option

832
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: on Brent Souter and Scott Barlow. They traded Gavin Lux

833
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: and the guys that became free agents this offseason who

834
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 1: were with the Reds a year ago, Miguel and dujar,

835
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: Zach Lttel, Nick Martinez, Wade Miley, Santiago Espinal and Ian Jabou.

836
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: The interesting note on Hayes and Oharn guys like that.

837
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: We're now into the middle of January. Pitchers and catchers

838
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: see Red's first full squad workout is one month from today.

839
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Speaker 1: So what's going to start to happen. There's a lot

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00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: of players who don't have jobs right now and agents

841
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: who represent them that are getting a little bit antsy

842
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: because they want their client to find a team. He's

843
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: got to find a place to stay in spring training

844
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: with the team he's going to be with. So we're

845
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: going to start to see as the days pass, a

846
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: little bit more movement I think of, And we saw

847
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: a lot of dollars spent last night around Major League

848
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: Baseball with movement, and that creates the domino of the

849
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: kind of the market being set, and maybe guys who

850
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: were free agents thinking they might be worth X amount

851
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: of dollars, one week later, they might be willing to say,

852
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: all right, I'll settle for why amount of dollars because

853
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: the last thing you want is to drag laid into

854
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: spring training without a gig. So I think we'll start

855
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: to see a little bit of movement, not specifically saying

856
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: for the Reds, but potentially for the Reds, but around

857
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball because there's a rather large group of

858
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: free agent hitters and pitchers who have sat back thinking

859
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: the market would come to them. And if you don't

860
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: have a gig right now, your conversation with your agent

861
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: is get me someplace. Let's get on the phone and

862
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 1: give me some options, because the last thing you want

863
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: is a delayed start to your spring because it becomes

864
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: a big hassle once you get there of catching up

865
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Speaker 1: to everybody else. Let's do this, Let's take a time out,

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Speaker 1: we'll come back. We've got more to get to. I

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Speaker 1: want to get into a little bit more on the

868
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Speaker 1: newest Reds reliever, brock Burke and his arrival in trade

869
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Speaker 1: last night and how he fits into this bullpen. And

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Speaker 1: we'll go in search of a more conversation up here

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Speaker 1: on the stage Tarnell Carrier Sports Talk. It is presented

872
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Speaker 1: by Kelsey Chevallet. We're hanging out the Duke Energy Convention

873
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Speaker 1: Shit Center, New le re renovated and looking pretty sharp

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Speaker 1: here on seven hundred WLWE seven hundred WLW we roll

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Speaker 1: on from Redsfest. What a treat to welcome in my

876
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Speaker 1: next guest. We've gone from Nicolodolo to Emilio Paganda, Terry Francona. Two.

877
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Speaker 1: The man who I very much enjoy watching played the

878
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Speaker 1: game of baseball because he plays the game the right way,

879
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Speaker 1: and that would be Matt McClain. How are you?

880
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 6: Thank you?

881
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 8: I appreciate it.

882
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: I'm good.

883
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 4: How are you?

884
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Speaker 1: I'm great? Let's backtrack. How cool was it? And I

885
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: talked about this with with Emilio and Nick. It's September.

886
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: There's meaningful baseball, there's high leverage moment. What was that

887
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: adrenaline rush like of being in that moment. Yeah, it

888
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: was great.

889
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 9: You know, it felt like we were in the playoffs

890
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 9: for about, yes, five weeks maybe, So it was fun

891
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 9: to play that type of baseball because, like you said,

892
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Speaker 9: you know, those are the things that you trained for

893
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 9: in the offseason, in spring training, when the days get

894
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 9: long and you're ready.

895
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 1: For the season to start.

896
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 9: In the middle of the season, you know, that extra

897
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 9: inch you know, could win or lose a game. So

898
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 9: that those are the things that we trained for and

899
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Speaker 9: those are the moments we want.

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Speaker 1: How much did it mean? Do you hope it means

901
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: to get that experience under the belt. Not everybody had

902
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: experienced the postseason. You guys, it was briefer than you

903
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: wanted it to be, but that moment to live it.

904
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Speaker 1: What do you think that means going forward?

905
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Speaker 9: Yeah, we could use it for sure. Like I said,

906
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 9: it felt like we were in the playoffs for five weeks.

907
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 9: And the fact that, like you know, when you get

908
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 9: in the playoffs, anything can happen. Whether you get in

909
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 9: as the one seed or you know, how we did,

910
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 9: it doesn't matter. You know, you're going out there to

911
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 9: win a ball game that day.

912
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Speaker 6: So it was fun.

913
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 5: We're looking forward to it.

914
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Speaker 8: But like I said, you know, you got to use it.

915
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: Individual How how do you feel right now and how

916
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: excited are you to to turn the page into a

917
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty sixth season. Yeah, I feel great.

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Speaker 9: You know, it's been kind of the first off season

919
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 9: where I haven't been rehabbing something, so to be able

920
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 9: to get some time off, you know, go over some

921
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 9: stuff and be able to work on stuff as opposed to,

922
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Speaker 9: you know, trying to get the body right. Obviously I'm

923
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Speaker 9: trying to get the body right, but you know what

924
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Speaker 9: I mean, I'm not rehabing an old injury. So it's

925
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Speaker 9: been great and I'm looking forward to spring training. I'm

926
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Speaker 9: I'm ready to go.

927
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Speaker 1: How when you struggle like like you did at times

928
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Speaker 1: last season, how challenging is that mentally when you've experienced

929
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Speaker 1: success so much in your life? What was that? What

930
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: were the hurdles like mentally last season?

931
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it wasn't fun, but you know you got, like

932
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Speaker 9: like I said, with the experience earlier. You know, you

933
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Speaker 9: got to use it. It's only a failure if you

934
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Speaker 9: don't learn from it. So I'm looking to take a step,

935
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Speaker 9: but I would give myself a little grace, especially in

936
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Speaker 9: the first half. You know, after missing a full year,

937
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 9: people have told me, Hey, it's really hard be patient

938
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Speaker 9: with yourself, don't be too tough on yourself, And it's

939
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Speaker 9: really hard not to be. But I just want to

940
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 9: stay levelheaded the whole time. And yeah, and you know,

941
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Speaker 9: whether it's button a guy over in the eighth inning

942
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 9: or trying to score on a sack fly, trying to

943
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Speaker 9: help win the team win anyway.

944
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Speaker 1: See, I think that's a great point. And I can't

945
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Speaker 1: kind of think that speaks to you because I would

946
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Speaker 1: think sometimes when when there's a struggle, you want to

947
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: try to hit the five run home run and do

948
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Speaker 1: something spectacular. Doing little things wins baseball games, does.

949
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Speaker 6: It, no doubt?

950
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Speaker 9: And any anytime you can help the team win the game,

951
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 9: you know you're gonna be around.

952
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 4: So yeah, help the team win.

953
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Speaker 1: How you've been here? You've been to I know it

954
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: hasn't been around the last two years. You've been here

955
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: prior to that? Correct? Have you been here before or not? Once? Once?

956
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Speaker 8: Yeah?

957
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: How about looking out seeing this crowd. What's it been

958
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: like today?

959
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's amazing.

960
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 9: You know, we feel the support, we feel the love.

961
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Speaker 9: We love you guys, and we want to bring a

962
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 9: Championship back to Cincinnati.

963
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: I was I was talking with a meal or who

964
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Speaker 1: was a Nicker and Nicolodola earlier about in an information

965
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Speaker 1: age where so much information is out there as a hitter,

966
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: what do you are there things you want to see

967
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: and know day to day or is it just do

968
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: you the clear your mind of that stuff? How how

969
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,479
Speaker 1: much information do you want?

970
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 9: You want to be able to have enough information to

971
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 9: where you can dumb it down for yourself.

972
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Speaker 1: That's what I've learned.

973
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Speaker 9: In my career so far.

974
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Speaker 1: I got a lot to learn, but.

975
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Speaker 9: As much information for me, it's what's his fastball do

976
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 9: and what's his outpitch and kind of the break on it?

977
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Speaker 9: And you know, now you have the trajet machine, which

978
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 9: I don't know if you've heard about. You can throw

979
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 9: a guy up there so you can watch some of

980
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 9: his pitches and it's not exactly the same, but it's

981
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 9: the best you're gonna get. But basically trying to learn

982
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 9: what's best for you so you can be simple and

983
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 9: have a simple plan and go execute the plan.

984
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: Talk to me about the word is used a lot

985
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: the process, and I think sometimes an OH for four

986
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: can be a poor for four or oh for four

987
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: can be four line drives. Talk to me about sticking

988
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: to the process and just you can only control so

989
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: much as a hitter.

990
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, no doubt. You know, I think kiddings thing to

991
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 9: do in the world. I think a lot of people

992
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Speaker 9: would agree with that. A lot of baseball players would

993
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 9: agree with that. So it's about sticking to the approach

994
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 9: of you know, swinging out of the pitches you want,

995
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 9: having a plan going up to the plate and executing

996
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 9: that plan. Get the ball hard right out of guy

997
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 9: and you're out. That's baseball.

998
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, this group and last season, and I know some

999
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: faces have changed this offseason, but it seemed like a

1000
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: group that I know it's cliche, but enjoyed playing together,

1001
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: is there? And when you're around each other for one

1002
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two games and going back to spring training?

1003
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Speaker 1: How important is it to have a group? And maybe

1004
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: it's the chemistry word, but how important is that? It's

1005
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: very important?

1006
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 9: You know, And you can feel it when when a

1007
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 9: team is disconnected versus connected. And I would consider us

1008
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 9: a very connected team. And it starts, you know, just

1009
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 9: by Nick and Brad doing a good job of bringing

1010
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 9: in the right guys. Yeah, followed up by us taking

1011
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 9: control of you know, having fun.

1012
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 6: You know, it's a long season.

1013
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: You got to have fun.

1014
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 9: It starts in spring training, you know, golf for dinner

1015
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 9: somewhere just you know, you're on the road, go to dinner,

1016
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 9: stuff like that.

1017
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: But we got a great group I talked with when

1018
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: Terry was up here. We talked about you and his

1019
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: appreciation for for you, and he mentioned being stubborn because

1020
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: he thinks so much of you, and he you he

1021
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: had your back the whole season. You you weren't sent down.

1022
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: You you weren't, you know, but what did it mean

1023
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: to have the belief while you were struggling from this organization?

1024
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

1025
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 6: You know, I think he said it great.

1026
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 9: You know, the confidence that they showed me and that

1027
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 9: they have in me, I love obviously, but I got

1028
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 9: to continue to earn it. You know, I gotta get better.

1029
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 9: I gotta take the next step. And I know that

1030
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 9: and I'm looking forward to it. But like, like, it's great.

1031
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: What's it like playing with Ellie next to you, that

1032
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: double play combination. What's it like watching him every day?

1033
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1034
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 6: It's fun.

1035
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 9: You know, he gets to a lot of balls that

1036
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 9: you're like, whoa how did you do that? It's like

1037
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 9: turning a double play at second base. You always got

1038
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 9: to be ready in case he makes some crazy play

1039
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 9: and throw it. Yeah, but it's fun because you know,

1040
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 9: we can turn some of those double plays that other

1041
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 9: people can't.

1042
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: So what is more about a un found I think

1043
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: from the first full squad workout? What is Matt McClain's

1044
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: life like over the next month? Are the things you're

1045
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: checking off? Fun wise, vacation wise? What do you do

1046
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 1: over the next.

1047
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 9: Month the vacations are over. I went to Hawaii right

1048
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 9: after the season. Oh yeah, no vacation.

1049
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: I was no hell Hawaii.

1050
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 8: It was great.

1051
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you ever been? Uh?

1052
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 5: Yes I have.

1053
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 9: Okay, went basically just relaxed and then right after that

1054
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 9: got right into it. But you know, after a long season,

1055
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 9: it's nice to go go somewhere and do nothing for

1056
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 9: even if it's just.

1057
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Speaker 4: You know, four or five days. Yeah.

1058
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: I think it was Amelia I was talking about that

1059
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: with That's the Underrated Ascid, that the grind of one

1060
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: sixty two day and a dad. You gotta get away

1061
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: from it a little bit or it'll eat you live.

1062
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, you do, you do.

1063
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you stopping by. It is great seeing you.

1064
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: Here's to a fantastic twenty twenty six and thank you

1065
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: for spending time with us.

1066
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 9: Thank you, I appreciate it.

1067
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Speaker 1: How about Matt McClean. Everybody take a time out of continue.

1068
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Speaker 1: We're at Reds Fest at Sports Talk on seven hundred WLW.

1069
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Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it rolling. RNL Carriers Shortstock presented

1070
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Speaker 1: by Kelsey Chevrolet. We're hanging at it, Redsfest. I love

1071
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Speaker 1: this night. We do it for three hours and we

1072
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: are very excited to be joined by Red's reliever. Give

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00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: it up for Sam Mall. Everybody, it is great to

1074
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: see you.

1075
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Speaker 8: Good to be here.

1076
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: I uh, I gotta ask you because during the break

1077
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: I was I was honored that Red's Daily presented me

1078
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Speaker 1: with a baseball card of me, and I was asked

1079
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Speaker 1: to sign multiple of them. Do you remember your first

1080
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: professional MLB baseball card with your name and picture on it?

1081
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 10: I do. I think there's only one when was this? Uh? Well,

1082
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 10: it's it's the Oakland one, yep, when I was with Oakland. Uh.

1083
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Speaker 10: And then that's the only one that's ever been made

1084
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 10: of me, So they have really it's I don't know,

1085
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 10: I don't know what tops and how they do their

1086
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 10: card selection and who gets selected for a newer card.

1087
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 10: But yeah, I only have the Oakland one.

1088
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: Was it was it an action photo or was it

1089
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: a still photo like staged in spring training?

1090
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 10: Do you remember action? Thankfully? I like the action ones.

1091
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 4: All right?

1092
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: Did you when you were a kid, you did a

1093
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: young Sam mall collect baseball cards? Uh?

1094
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 10: Very passively, nothing too crazy, so yeah, just you know,

1095
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 10: I think all kids my age back then had the

1096
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 10: Pokemon cards and then you had the baseball cards.

1097
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 4: So all right?

1098
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: What uh? What do you think you you got to

1099
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: hear earlier today. Have have you been to Redsfest before?

1100
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 5: I'm trying to I went.

1101
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 10: I went in not last year because it wasn't happening,

1102
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 10: but the year before.

1103
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: Okay, what what do you think? How about this crowd?

1104
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 10: And I've already heard that there's more people here, so

1105
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 10: it's it's pretty amazing. Yeah yeah yeah.

1106
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: How how's your off season gone? What have you been

1107
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: up to your you've got a family, You've got a

1108
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: couple of kids, is like vacations? What what have you.

1109
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 10: Done other than the normal what you would normally hear

1110
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 10: from a baseball player, especially a picture with working out

1111
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 10: and training and throwing. H I went to the Caribbean.

1112
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 10: So it was probably poorly timed because it was about

1113
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 10: a week and a half ago.

1114
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: Uh.

1115
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 10: Usually we would like them to be like in November, Yes,

1116
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 10: but it was. It was my wife's choice, so you

1117
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 10: know how that goes.

1118
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: I knew.

1119
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 10: So yeah, we went to the Caribbean, flew into Saint

1120
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 10: Martin and hopped around some islands, and yeah, we had

1121
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 10: a good time.

1122
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: Very nice. There's been some additions to this bullpen. Man,

1123
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 1: you stack you guys up on a sheet of paper

1124
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: and look at it, I say, dang, that's a pretty

1125
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: darn good bullpen.

1126
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, a lot of experience, and then couple that with

1127
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 10: a lot of young arms that can really help the team.

1128
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 10: It's very exciting.

1129
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: Give me an idea, And I've never asked this, but

1130
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: I'd be curious from a reliever standpoint, day to day

1131
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: during the season, when you've been used maybe a couple

1132
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: of days in a row. The next day, is it

1133
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: when you come in do you look at DJ and

1134
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: give him a thumbs up or a thumbs down? Or

1135
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: how's the process of determining if you're if you can

1136
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: give them an out? Or x number of pitches day

1137
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: to day.

1138
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 10: Typically it's the other way around, where DJ is is

1139
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 10: coming up to us asking if we're good or not,

1140
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 10: and most of the time we are. But yeah, when

1141
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 10: especially for something like or someone like that has my

1142
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 10: role where you may come in face lefty, maybe two

1143
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 10: batters typically you know, hopefully the pitch counts down and

1144
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 10: therefore you can be used more often. And so yeah,

1145
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 10: for for us and how we run it, it's usually

1146
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 10: DJ or trays coming up to us and saying how

1147
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 10: we feel. But you know, most of the time, most

1148
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 10: of us are gonna take the ball, unless it's just

1149
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 10: been you know, three or four days in a row.

1150
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, when when you're not gonna pitch on most nights

1151
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: until maybe later stages of the fifth, end of the sixth.

1152
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: What does it? What's the bullpen activity? Like in the

1153
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: early stages, do you guys talk or you are you

1154
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: taking a quick nap? What?

1155
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 10: What?

1156
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: What are you doing early on in a bullpen on

1157
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: game day?

1158
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, Well, like how you mentioned, I think it just

1159
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 10: kind of depends on the flow of the game. You know,

1160
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 10: the starter's cruising, we may just be hanging out talking,

1161
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 10: talking shop. Whether it's baseball or anything going on, but

1162
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 10: always paying attention to the game or but yeah, at

1163
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 10: least for me, once the fourth starts around, I always

1164
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 10: start moving around just because my role can be kind

1165
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 10: of anything. So for me, it's it's it could be

1166
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 10: a little more hectic. But you know, for some other

1167
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 10: guys that have, you know, that back end role, I

1168
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 10: mean they're they're chilling, they're having they're having a good time.

1169
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 10: It looks to me it looks like they're having a

1170
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 10: good time because I'm having to get going. But obviously

1171
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 10: when they're when those back end guys are used, it's

1172
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 10: it's usually a good thing for us.

1173
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, take me back to late stages of the season

1174
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 1: when you guys were playing meaningful games. What what is

1175
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: that like in the grind of one sixty two to

1176
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: have games that you're scoreboard watching on on a given night.

1177
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: What's that like? Yeah?

1178
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 10: Unfortunately for me this year, I was scoreboard watching from afar.

1179
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 10: But uh, the end result was was good for the team,

1180
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 10: So it was exciting just to keep up. And uh,

1181
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 10: you know, I guess probably every baseball player says, you know,

1182
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 10: oh we don't we don't scoreboard watch, but you know,

1183
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 10: there's always a few, and it's so it's it's always

1184
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 10: it can have I'm sure them that we're in that moment.

1185
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 10: It's you know, it's staring you right in the face.

1186
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 10: So it's kind of it's kind of hard to not notice.

1187
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 10: But you know, you just do your thing and prepare

1188
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 10: how you normally prepare.

1189
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 1: What's it like, the frustration and having to come back

1190
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: from injuries, deal with injuries, the the feeling of being

1191
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: alone and detached at times, what's all that like?

1192
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's really tough. I mean that's probably the one

1193
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 10: unseen thing and not even baseball, but all of sports

1194
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 10: and sometimes in life too. But yeah, I mean it's

1195
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 10: you almost feel helpless. Sometimes you feel like you're on

1196
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 10: just this lonely island, like you're in the Caribbean, except

1197
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 10: not Tanning. But yeah, it's it can be very lonely

1198
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 10: because you feel like you're kind of getting behind and

1199
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 10: then you know you're also trying to play catch up

1200
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 10: at about the worst time in the middle of a season,

1201
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 10: so you know you just have to, you know the cliche,

1202
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 10: you know, be where your feet are.

1203
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I talked earlier with Emilio. I'm a big

1204
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: kind of baseball sabot age dork and I like looking

1205
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: at numbers of information like that. How much information do

1206
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: do you like to look at that? Do you want

1207
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: to be aware of that? What? What's important? In a

1208
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: day and age of analytically everything's analytically driven. Sometimes it

1209
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: can be like brain freezing. Yeah, what what do you

1210
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: want to look at? What's what's valuable to you?

1211
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 10: Well? That was, you know, to kind of go a

1212
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 10: little bit further. That's my goal for this year is

1213
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 10: to just and it's a super simple one, is just

1214
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 10: basically being ahead of batters, you know, first pitch strikes,

1215
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 10: because that's last year didn't go as well because the

1216
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 10: main thing is if I'm getting behind people early, it's

1217
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 10: not good. And typically swing percentage of for me is

1218
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 10: lower than let's say, other pitchers. So I really need

1219
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 10: to hammer in the first pitch strike and then from

1220
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 10: there I can do my thing.

1221
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1222
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 10: It's but like you said, you can get you can

1223
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 10: kind of get that paralysis by analysis. So for each

1224
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 10: guy it's different. For me, it's I do like the

1225
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 10: data because my story is kind of back in twenty nineteen,

1226
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 10: like data and analyts exchanged my career in a good way,

1227
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 10: I was kind of fumbling of where I was, and

1228
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 10: then I got minor league rule five the nineteen to

1229
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 10: the Giants. I worked with a guy that had gone

1230
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 10: to drive line baseball and we changed my can whole repertoire.

1231
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,479
Speaker 10: And then of course I had a really good well,

1232
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 10: I had a good year in nineteen then twenty hit

1233
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 10: COVID kind of screwed up a lot of minor league

1234
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 10: baseball to kind of continue to prove yourself. Yeah, and

1235
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 10: then twenty one sign a minor league deal with the

1236
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 10: job with the d Backs and then got traded to

1237
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 10: Oakland and put it in the major leagues again. So

1238
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 10: but you know, it's I really enjoy looking at it

1239
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 10: because it it positively affected my career.

1240
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 1: Well, I gotta ask you, because I'm fascinated by stuff

1241
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: like this. It has to be a little a little

1242
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: bit unnerving to at this year You've made it to

1243
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: the big leagues and then you are changing everything in

1244
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: your repertoire. That's that can't be easy to do that,

1245
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: that's got to be there's gotta be some confidence that

1246
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: has to rebuild. Like, can I trust these new pictures

1247
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: on what's that?

1248
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 8: Like?

1249
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's it can be it can be overwhelming for me,

1250
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 10: make it sound easy well for me. In my story,

1251
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 10: I kind of reworked my repertoire before I got back up. Yeah,

1252
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 10: so I kind of worked on it in the minor leagues,

1253
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 10: and then when I got back up, was kind of

1254
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 10: already a little more polished, So it was more about,

1255
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 10: you know, just go compete. And then you know, back

1256
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 10: in twenty twenty one and twenty two, all I threw

1257
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 10: was a sinker sweeper no matter who was up to

1258
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 10: at bat. And I've since then added a change up

1259
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 10: in a four team so and then yeah, they've you know,

1260
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 10: with analytics kind of say they're good if I just

1261
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 10: execute them.

1262
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1263
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, how much inside of all that you'll will you

1264
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: on a given game the lefties in the lineup? Are

1265
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: you looking at them specifically before the game for information

1266
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: on those hitters, targeting guys who you're probably gonna face

1267
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: if you come in.

1268
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, each series we get, we go over every hitter

1269
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 10: that's a possibility, whether they're left to or righty. And

1270
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 10: then the situation of the game as far as how

1271
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 10: the lineup's constructive for the other team. And then you

1272
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 10: have some you know, the game is a kind of

1273
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 10: a big platoon game now, so you kind of have

1274
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 10: to kind of weasele your way to know which lefties

1275
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 10: are gonna stick. So it's like if you're facing someone

1276
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 10: like the Dodgers, you know show Hey and Freeman and

1277
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 10: now Kyle Tucker and Max Munsey, Max Munty, Yeah, they

1278
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 10: are probably gonna stick in there. So those are easier

1279
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 10: pockets to pick up on. Whereas other teams that you know,

1280
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 10: maybe someone like let's just say Tampa whe they're probably

1281
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 10: gonna platoon heavy. Yeah, it's gonna be a little bit

1282
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 10: more difficult to find your spot. But either way, you're

1283
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 10: going to be prepared.

1284
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: So we're about a month out from the first full

1285
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: squad workout. Physically, you feel good? Are you ready to go? Yeah?

1286
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 10: I haven't had any issues with arm, health, body, Everything's

1287
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 10: been good, so, you know, looking forward to what's to come.

1288
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: Excellent. I enjoyed this conversation. I know you're busy and

1289
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: you're there, you in every different direction. Thanks for coming

1290
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: up tonight.

1291
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 10: I appreciate this.

1292
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: Sam Mall everybody taking time out to continue Redsfest Sports

1293
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:11,840
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1294
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:16,000
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1295
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,560
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1296
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,280
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Speaker 1: the studio. And uh, I gotta tell you this is

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Speaker 1: really cool and look at that. Mike from Red's Daily.

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Speaker 1: Reds Daily has presented me with a baseball card of

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Speaker 1: me and I was honored. I was asked to sign

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Speaker 1: five and I got the one of one. It is

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Speaker 1: me and my uniform from Baseball Heaven. My dad and

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Speaker 1: I went to Red's Baseball Heaven in two thousand and six.

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Speaker 1: We played on the same team. My dad was the

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Speaker 1: starting third basement. We were managed by Jack. By the way,

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Speaker 1: if you haven't had a chance to go to Red's

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00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: Baseball Heaven, I think they've changed. Is it's still Baseball

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Speaker 1: Heaven or Red Space Annacy Camp. If you get a chance,

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Speaker 1: go if you want to know what's like to be

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Speaker 1: treated as a major leaguer for a week in goodyear.

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Speaker 1: You talk about doing it upright, and we did it

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and six. We were managed by Jack Billingham.

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Speaker 1: My dad, at age sixty five at the time, played

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Speaker 1: third base every day for our team we won the championship.

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00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: He scored the winning run on a bang bang play

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Speaker 1: at the plate. I injured my hamstring on day one

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00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: and may or may not have used a courtesy runner

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Speaker 1: during the week. But I will have you know, with

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Speaker 1: a four hit game in the championship, wound up fourteen

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Speaker 1: for twenty eight and my butler, Matt, tells me that's

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Speaker 1: a five hundred batting average. I'll have you know. But

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Speaker 1: the long story short. The uniform I'm in is the

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Speaker 1: front of the baseball card that reds Daily was kind

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Speaker 1: enough to give me in sign, and I've never had

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Speaker 1: a baseball card of myself, and then there's me an

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Speaker 1: information on the back end. Mike, you're paying no attention.

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Speaker 1: Look at that. That's a dark good base No, you're

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Speaker 1: just you're just now feeling sorry for me. But it's

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Speaker 1: a limited edition, one of one. So I've got a

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Speaker 1: baseball card of my I wore number twenty seven that year,

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Speaker 1: and I don't remember why I chose twenty seven. I

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Speaker 1: think I couldn't get Pete's number because somebody else had it,

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Speaker 1: so I think by default I just took twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, from Red's Daily thank you for the for

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Speaker 1: the baseball card. All right. We anticipate conversation with Zach

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Speaker 1: Maxwell at some point now Mike wants to look at it.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you some headlines while I got a

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Speaker 1: chance before the top of the are We got to

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Speaker 1: get the news here in a second. The Reds today

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Speaker 1: made it official they've acquired a left hander, Brock Burke

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Speaker 1: from the Angels. That's part of the three way deal

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Speaker 1: that went down last night involving Gavin Lux going in

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01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: a trade to the Tampa Bay Rays. Burke is another lefty.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty nine years old, maybe twenty nine in May.

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01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: Went seven and one this year with a three thirty

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Speaker 1: six earned run average and a career high sixty nine appearances.

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Speaker 1: He's slot in nicely with that Reds bullpen. All right,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to give you any more headlines because

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Speaker 1: I don't want to waste any time and miss it.

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Speaker 1: With our next guest, he's going to make a very

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Speaker 1: dramatic entrance onto the stage. He made his major league

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01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: debut last season with the Cincinnati Reds. He made eight appearances.

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Speaker 1: He pitched in relief a total of ten innings. He

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Speaker 1: is approaching the stage now, the twenty four year old

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01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: drafted by the Yankees originally in twenty nineteen, then drafted

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Speaker 1: by the Reds in the sixth round in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: I saw him. Look at that big build up, didn't

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Speaker 1: you see him? I saw him. Oh, here he comes here.

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Speaker 1: Here he approaching on the left. Zach Maxwell, Come on up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's looking like like I need to give him approval.

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Speaker 1: He can do whatever he wants. Let's welcome in the

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Speaker 1: Reds or labor Zach Maxwell for a couple of minutes

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Speaker 1: before the top of the news, got a nice hand

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Speaker 1: from the crowd. Get him a headset on as well,

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Speaker 1: and welcome. How are you.

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Speaker 11: I'm doing good, happy to be here. This is great.

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Speaker 11: First Reds Fest did have this last couple of years. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: this is awesome. They told me earlier twenty five some

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Speaker 11: odd thousand people are gonna come Labors and the rightful

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Speaker 11: of every single body that's here.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Take me back. You made your major league debut

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Speaker 1: last year. You lived a dream you played as a kid.

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Speaker 1: You get to the big leagues. What was it like

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Speaker 1: reaching the big leagues last year? For you?

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Speaker 11: It's indescribable. You think of I mean, anybody that's ever

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Speaker 11: had personal goals, you know, when you're so close to

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Speaker 11: those goals, you're so close to that finish line, being

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Speaker 11: able to like, you know, through the year a little bit.

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Speaker 11: Last year, I wasn't. It wasn't going my way for

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Speaker 11: a little bit, had a little bit of a rough

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Speaker 11: patch towards the end of the summer, and I turned

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Speaker 11: it around, got you know, got back on the horse,

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Speaker 11: turn it around, and come August, you know, they give

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Speaker 11: me the call. And that's just one of those things

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Speaker 11: where it's like finally, you know, you you you know,

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Speaker 11: you take a deep breath. You know, you get on

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Speaker 11: the flight, you go out there, and you know, you

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Speaker 11: get to the hotel, you're nervous. You get on the

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Speaker 11: bus to go to the field, you're nervous. But then

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Speaker 11: you get in. You get in there the clubhouse and

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Speaker 11: you're greeted by all the guys that have just been

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Speaker 11: you know, they know you're coing, and they're just elated

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Speaker 11: to see you because you know they were one to you.

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Speaker 11: You know, they all they all have major league debuts too,

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Speaker 11: so they know the feeling. They're nothing but friendly to you.

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Speaker 11: You know, they they want you to succeed. Of course,

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01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 11: you know, you want to win baseball games, and so

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Speaker 11: all those guys having your back and you go out

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Speaker 11: there and it's just you just you know, drowning it

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Speaker 11: a little bit. You just soak it all in and

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01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 11: you know, I thankfully I had a pretty good debut.

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01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,479
Speaker 11: I threw the ball well. There's always a big fear

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Speaker 11: that the first one's not going to go well.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 11: That definitely crept into my mind for a little bit.

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01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 11: Was like, hey, you know what if I just absolutely

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01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 11: I don't pitch good. But no, we had a we

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Speaker 11: had a pretty good one, something great to look back on.

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Speaker 11: And then you know, getting called up in the middle

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Speaker 11: of a playoff push, that yeahs volume. So the trust,

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Speaker 11: you know, the staff has me, and that meant a

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Speaker 11: lot too. You know, I get to talk to all

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Speaker 11: those guys about it, and you know, knowing those guys

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Speaker 11: have my back through thick and thin. For all those

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Speaker 11: guys was just electric.

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01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: You got ten innings of major league work in, so

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there were there were learning moments along the

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Speaker 1: way coming out of it. How do you feel and

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01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: and what is it? What did it mean for this

1420
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: offseason in terms of things you wanted to work on.

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Speaker 1: It felt great learning curves of course.

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Speaker 11: I mean, these are all big leaguers.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 11: I got to face the Blue Jays twice they lost

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Speaker 11: in the World Series, and I got to pitch against

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Speaker 11: against Dodgers who end up win in the World Series.

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Speaker 11: So I get to play against you know, the teams

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Speaker 11: that are standing at the end of October, and just

1429
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 11: you know, the talent up and down the lineup, so

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01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 11: you never have a pitch off, right, these are all

1431
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 11: big leaguers one through nine. You may think, oh they're

1432
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Speaker 11: nine hold hitter. It's no, it's a guy making millions

1433
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 11: of dollars in the big leagues and there's no time

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Speaker 11: off and just a learning curve. But just being there

1435
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Speaker 11: every you know, through every pitch, no pitches off, and

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Speaker 11: just competing. It's all about competing. He's some days's not

1437
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Speaker 11: gonna have your best stuff long season, yep one sixty two.

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01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 11: You're gonna well out of bed one day and it's

1439
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 11: not gonna feel good, but you're still gonna get called upon.

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Speaker 11: So just that ability to compete.

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Speaker 1: Is is that the approach going into spring training in

1442
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: terms of roles and where you fit, is it just

1443
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: go in do my best and what happens will happen.

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01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, I you know, I was. I was there at

1445
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 11: the end of the year. They obviously saw enough and

1446
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 11: he did put me in that spot, and I have

1447
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 11: to go and show them that I'm still there and more.

1448
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 11: And of course it's just competitions. Competition breed success no

1449
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 11: matter what it is. Say, you know, spring train doesn't

1450
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 11: go my way, and I still competed and I still

1451
01:04:58,440 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 11: have more to prove.

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01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm so glad you could stop by. I've

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01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: got to get the news unfortunately at the top of

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01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: the hour, but I really enjoyed this. Thank you, congrats

1455
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 1: on reaching the bigs and best of luck in twenty

1456
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: twenty se you very much.

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01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 8: Guys.

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Speaker 1: How about Zach Maxwell? Everybody take a time out of

1459
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Speaker 1: continue Sports Talk from reds Fest seven hundred WLW. All right,

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01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: let's keep it rolling. Third hour tonight, We're live at

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Speaker 1: Red's Fest. We love sports Talk on this night RNL

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01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Man. We have

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01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: talked with Nicolodolo and Emilio Pagan and Terry Francona, Matt McClain,

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01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: uh Sam Mal, Zach Maxwell. Let's turn to the lefty

1465
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: who was just admiring my baseball card. We walk come

1466
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: in and give it up for Brandon Williamson. Everybody, good

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01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: to see you.

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01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 4: Thank you.

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01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: How about that? That's that's pretty cool?

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Speaker 4: Seven? Like that?

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Speaker 1: Now? Do you all that? Are you? Are you two?

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Speaker 4: Seven?

1473
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: Now?

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01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 4: It's like you're Mike Trout basically.

1475
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: Well there you go. Do you have do you have

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01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: a tops baseball? Are you on a baseball card?

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01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 8: Uh? Yeah? Yeah?

1478
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 1: Well was it cool when it when you saw the

1479
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: first one? Was that like a moment like, oh man,

1480
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm on a baseball Yeah?

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01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, much like that one.

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01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool all right? I just making sure. How

1483
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: do you how do you feel? For those who don't know,

1484
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: you missed all of last season, you're coming back from

1485
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: Tommy John surgery. You're probably tired of people asking you

1486
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: how do you feel?

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Speaker 12: I feel great. You know, I've had even in twenty

1488
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 12: four I missed a decent chunk of the season with

1489
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 12: some shoulder issues. So for the past two seasons pretty

1490
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 12: much I've had, you know, ample amount of time to

1491
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 12: just focus on things that usually during the season you

1492
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 12: don't get to focus on. Yeah, and so for you know,

1493
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 12: close to twenty four months. I've been just trying to

1494
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 12: get to feel good and finally feel like I'm there.

1495
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: Take me back to the moment. It's got to be

1496
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: a nightmare for a picture when the injury happens and

1497
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: you're you're told after the uh the scans or whatever,

1498
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: that it is going to require Tommy John surgery. What's

1499
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: that light in the in the life of a picture.

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01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 12: Yeah, I remember on the mound feeling, you know, the

1501
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 12: pop and uh uh. I remember seeing the video after him, but.

1502
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 4: He's like, oh, it's he said pop, he said pop it.

1503
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 12: I didn't even know at the time that it was

1504
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 12: it was Tommy John or my elbow snapped. I just

1505
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 12: felt an uncomfortable feeling, no pain. So most guys say, oh,

1506
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 12: I is excruciating.

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01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 4: You know. I didn't have any pain, so I didn't

1508
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 4: really know what was going on.

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Speaker 12: And I actually tried to talk him in to let

1510
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 12: me pitch still, but they're smart, so they didn't let

1511
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 12: me do that. Yeah, and then we went in and

1512
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 12: luckily I could go right up to Crumpcheck's office and

1513
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 12: got an MRI and yeah, it was uh. I mean,

1514
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 12: it's it's a low feeling, but you know, that at

1515
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 12: least you're taken care of.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 12: So it's really more mental than anything physically. You know

1518
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 12: that you're gonna get a good surgeon, You're gonna get

1519
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 12: the best treatment coming back. So it wasn't too worried

1520
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 12: about all my career's over. You know, Tommy John's very

1521
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 12: popular now and the surgery is very cut and dry.

1522
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 12: So it's really just the mental wear and tear of

1523
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 12: I'm not going to be doing anything but really boring,

1524
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 12: you know, behind the scenes stuff for a long time.

1525
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 12: And once I got over that, it didn't take long.

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01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 12: It was I knew it was a good thing.

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01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: Are you under are you currently throwing?

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01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah? Are you today? This one?

1529
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:07,919
Speaker 8: Feel?

1530
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 4: I feel great. Yeah, I'll be able to hit spring training.

1531
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: Going so so no restrictions or.

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01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 4: No, no, none that I know of.

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01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 12: I mean, I'm sure there'll be a light innings limit,

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01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 12: but no, I feel great.

1535
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 1: But that was I was going to lead it into

1536
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: the next question. When you're coming back, does in terms

1537
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: of role or how you pitch, does it dictate more

1538
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: that you're probably Does it make it easier to be

1539
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: a reliever coming back or do you just starting once

1540
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 1: every five days? Make it easier. Is there a how

1541
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 1: do you?

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01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 4: I'm sure there's things to both.

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01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 12: I have never relieved, so I don't know how that

1544
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 12: would work, but I know that for starting it is

1545
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 12: nice to have your set schedule. If something doesn't work,

1546
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 12: you can you're able to kind of understand what you

1547
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 12: can pluck out and fill. Yeah, I don't I don't

1548
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 12: know what I'll do this here, so I'm just kind

1549
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 12: of with it.

1550
01:08:58,560 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 4: I just want to pitch.

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01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's been it's been a long time since I've

1552
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 12: felt like my arm and my body has felt good.

1553
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 12: So really, if I can just go out there and

1554
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 12: feel like I can let it go, uh, I'll be

1555
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 12: happy with whatever goes on.

1556
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: I've talked with guys coming back from injuries, and they

1557
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 1: say one of the things that you have to worry

1558
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 1: about when you've when you've been working so long to

1559
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: get to a point that final push you feel good,

1560
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: but you got to resist like racing to the finish line,

1561
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: because you don't want to like screw it up. Does

1562
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 1: that make sense?

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01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I feel that my bullpens.

1564
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 12: You know, I feel really good, Like my arm is fresh,

1565
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 12: my body is you know, I've I've basically just been

1566
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 12: working out for two years, so my body feels really good,

1567
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 12: and I'll start throwing and.

1568
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of have to.

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01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 12: I actually play catch with Lidolo every day at TCU,

1570
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 12: and I call my governor because he'll tell me like, okay,

1571
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 12: like slow down, you're throwing it too hard, You're doing

1572
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 12: too much.

1573
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 4: And it is hard.

1574
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 12: It's really hard to feel great and not have felt

1575
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 12: great for so long, and then you do feel great

1576
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 12: and you gotta, you know, pull off the gas a

1577
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 12: little bit. So that it's been a challenge, but that's

1578
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 12: a better challenge than feeling horrible and having to push

1579
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 12: on the gas, no doubt.

1580
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: Did you along the way, did you reach out to

1581
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: friends in the game who had gone through a Tommy

1582
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 1: John surgery.

1583
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, you remember Justin Wilson, he was on that a

1584
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 12: few years ago.

1585
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 4: Right when I got it.

1586
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 12: He told me, you know, they're going to tell you

1587
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 12: twelve months, but it's it's sixteen to eighteen before you

1588
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 12: really feel good. He had a few tips, a few

1589
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 12: things to do. Wade Miley, you know, a lot a

1590
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 12: lot of guys have had Tommy John, so it's it's

1591
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 12: really not hard to find somebody that has a good

1592
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 12: head on their shoulders to ask him what to do.

1593
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:41,799
Speaker 12: And the trainers that the Reds Complex were awesome, They

1594
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 12: were really were. It was fun to go to work

1595
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 12: and it really shouldn't have been. You know, it kind

1596
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,759
Speaker 12: of sucks here one hundred and fifteen degrees. You're not playing,

1597
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 12: you know, and they make it fun and you work

1598
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 12: hard and it was good.

1599
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: What else, let me get off the injury talk. What

1600
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: else you been doing this offseason? What's it been like

1601
01:10:58,200 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: for you?

1602
01:10:58,600 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been really fun.

1603
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 12: My family and I moved to Texas, so we had

1604
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 12: lived in Arizona for two years. We moved back to

1605
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 12: Texas and then I went on a really fun trip

1606
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 12: up to Montana. Buddy's bachelor trip was in a big

1607
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 12: ranch on Montana and went fly fishing and hunting and

1608
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 12: just camped out.

1609
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was awesome.

1610
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 12: And then, you know, other than holidays, really just been

1611
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 12: hard to the grindstone. You know, it's pretty excited to

1612
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 12: get back, so it was just been hard at it.

1613
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 1: You mentioned ranch you don't happen to watch You were

1614
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 1: watching show Yellowstone?

1615
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1616
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, oh really we felt like John Dutton up there.

1617
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 12: We were playing the theme song and everything that's cool.

1618
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: We just wrapped up the final season last night, and

1619
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: that's immediately what I thought I was was John Dutton

1620
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: in Yellowstone fantastic show. So what I think first full

1621
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: workout for the team is a month from today. What

1622
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 1: do you do? What's your timeline from today to that day?

1623
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,759
Speaker 12: Yeah, So on Tuesday, I'm actually going to a place

1624
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,480
Speaker 12: called maven in Atlanta. I'm gonna do a little biomechanical

1625
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 12: analysis of my of my you know, pitching mechanics, and

1626
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 12: then I'm gonna basically throw bullpens and live vps and

1627
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 12: just build up a little more and more try and

1628
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 12: make sure I'm fully ready to go.

1629
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: Okay, now you got me excited talking about this this

1630
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: scanning stuff. Tell me what you were Are you looking for?

1631
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 1: Do you have a comparison of what you look like

1632
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: extension and everything before and you're comparing it to now

1633
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: or what will you look for?

1634
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 4: Really? I'm looking for tips on velocity. Yeah.

1635
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 12: My my skill set is very much pitchability and like

1636
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 12: off speed bias.

1637
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 4: And I'm trying to find a little more velocity.

1638
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 12: So going down there, I'm hoping that they can show

1639
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 12: me a few things to help me throw a little harder.

1640
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 3: Now.

1641
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,759
Speaker 1: See, now, I really am matriqued by this stuff because

1642
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 1: some guys there's a lot of information out there, and

1643
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: some guys, you know, like clear the mechanism. I don't.

1644
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to know any of this. It sounds

1645
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 1: like you really like that type of information.

1646
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 12: Yeah, uh, I would say I'm more of an internal

1647
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 12: pitcher than most are. I could actually get more external

1648
01:12:58,320 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 12: I think could benefit me.

1649
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: But now explain that. I like that. That's fascinating.

1650
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 12: So I like feeling what I can control on the mound.

1651
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 12: So I know I can control where my arm is.

1652
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 12: I know I can control where the ball comes out,

1653
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 12: where my foot lands.

1654
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:11,560
Speaker 4: I can't.

1655
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 12: I do control where the ball goes, but not really

1656
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 12: because if I could, I throw it there every time.

1657
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 4: So I try and.

1658
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 12: Really think about feels, you know, where the where everything

1659
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 12: is feeling in space, and how the ball feels coming out.

1660
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 4: So if I can have a little more knowledge on

1661
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:30,879
Speaker 4: the feels of.

1662
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 12: What hard throwers feel, I already have the feel of

1663
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 12: what good pitchers I get or good you know, pitchability

1664
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 12: type players have. So I'm trying to kind of mesh

1665
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 12: with the other side and learn how to you know,

1666
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 12: grunt and throw hard.

1667
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: Oh man, I could talk this all night. I really

1668
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: enjoyed this. Congrats on the comeback. I'm so happy you're

1669
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 1: feeling good and best of look in spring training into

1670
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 1: this season. Thank you appreciate it, Brandon Williams and everybody.

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01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: We'll take a time out of continue Sports Talk from

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Speaker 1: Red Space seven hundred WLW eight twenty one, seven hundred

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Speaker 1: we're hanging out at Reds Fest tonight. Sterling is in

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01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: at nine back of the studio. He's got you nine

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Speaker 1: to midnight and we are monitoring, expecting open to see

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Speaker 1: and talk with Will Benson in a couple of minutes

1678
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 1: up here on the stage. This goes until ten thirty tonight,

1679
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: that being Reds Fest. Tomorrow morning eleven am, running till

1680
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 1: six thirty. First ten thousand attendance each day, get a

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Speaker 1: Reds Fest drawstring, bag and sticker sheet. And tomorrow the

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Speaker 1: first thing of the day eleven five, that Xavier University ceremony.

1683
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: Let me get you caught up on a couple of

1684
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 1: the headlines, and let me check the college basketball game tonight.

1685
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 1: I don't believe the Dayton Flyers tip until about eight thirty.

1686
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: The other news of the day with a college basketball Tonight,

1687
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: Dayton is hosting Loyola, trying to get to five and

1688
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,759
Speaker 1: oh in the eight ten. Tomorrow you see is hosting

1689
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: number two Iowa State Cyclones in town for a one

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01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 1: thirty ten Dan and Terry with the call here on

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01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW. Kentucky is at Tennessee, Kentucky on the

1692
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 1: heels of the big, dramatic last second win over LSU

1693
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 1: goes to Knoxville for a noon tip on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1694
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: Nku welcomes Robert Morris seven o'clock Tomorrow night. Catch that

1695
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty. And Travis Steele and those Miami

1696
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 1: RedHawks try to get to nineteen and oh as they

1697
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: host Buffalo tomorrow in the MAC Travis with those RedHawks

1698
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 1: at eighteen and oh and the number one shooting team

1699
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 1: in the country shooting about fifty four percent from the field.

1700
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 1: Football news today, the Browns interview Chargers defensive coordinator Jesse Minter.

1701
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: He is the son of the former UC coach Rick Minter.

1702
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: And the NFL playoffs moved to the Divisional round tomorrow

1703
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 1: for thirty the Bills at the Broncos eight o'clock, the

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01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers at San at Seattle. Both those games

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01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 1: here on seven hundred WLW. On Sunday three o'clock kick

1706
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 1: for the Texans at the Patriots. The Rams are at

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01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: the Bears at six thirty. All four of those games

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Speaker 1: here on seven hundred WLW. Cyclones in action tonight on

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01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: a grateful dead night. They did announce earlier today they

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01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: have rescheduled three of those games that were lost during

1711
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: the brief player strike the EHL player strike. Two of

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01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: those will be rescheduled home games. They'll play play April

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01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:24,759
Speaker 1: seventeen and eighteen versus Kalamazoo Downtown and Rose Levelle voted

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Speaker 1: USA Soccer's Female Player of the Year for twenty twenty five.

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01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: Congrats to the local product. The Reds news of the

1716
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 1: day they announced it as official. Left hander brock Burke

1717
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 1: officially in the fold Gavin Lux on his way to

1718
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 1: the Rays. The baseball news of last night. The big

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01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 1: news was the Dodgers landing Kyle Tucker four years at

1720
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty million. That led to a pivot

1721
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: Bobashett goes to the Mets. Today, the Jays friege and

1722
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 1: shortstop signs at three year, one hundred and twenty six

1723
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 1: million dollar deal. According to he will play third base

1724
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Speaker 1: for the Mets. He also got two opt outs in

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01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 1: that deal. Bob Nightingale reported that last night the Phillies

1726
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 1: believed they had a seven year, two hundred million dollar

1727
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: deal with Bashett, but when the Mets lost Kyle Tucker

1728
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: to the Dodgers late last night, then Bo Baschett pivoted

1729
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: and wound up taking the deal with the Mets and

1730
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: the Phillies then as a result, they pivoted earlier this

1731
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 1: afternoon and resigned their catcher J. T. Real Muto three

1732
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: years at forty five million. The news on brock Burke

1733
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 1: if you're wondering, the angel is twenty nine years old.

1734
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 1: Last season, in sixty nine appearances, had a three point

1735
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 1: thirty six earned run average, And the backstory to brock

1736
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: Burke is he gets lefties out, he gets right he's out.

1737
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 1: He's big time ground ball pitcher. In fact, he was

1738
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 1: in the time. He was in the ninety percentile in

1739
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 1: ground ball rate, meaning he gets batters to beat the

1740
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 1: ball into the ground a lot, which is a exactly

1741
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 1: obviously what you wanted, great American ballpark. He was really

1742
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: good in the sixth inning and seventh innings last year

1743
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 1: for the Angels, and with runners in scoring position, batters

1744
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: hit just won seventy nine against him. So you add

1745
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,719
Speaker 1: him to the mix in that bullpen that has added

1746
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: Caleb Ferguson and Pierce Johnson to go with Emelio Pagan

1747
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: and Tony Santion and Graham Ashcraft and Conor Phillips and

1748
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 1: Sam Mall and Zach Maxwell who joined us. You like

1749
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 1: the possibilities. And I'm going to go back to what

1750
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: it was Amelio who said it. Pierce Johnson throws a

1751
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: curveball about eighty two percent of the time. It's a

1752
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: really good curveball. And I love what Amelio said about

1753
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: how they can now present different looks to teams with

1754
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: their bullpen. Each guy in that bullpen provides a different look,

1755
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: whether lefty, righty, heart thrower, soft breaking ball, change up,

1756
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 1: you name it. And as Tito then backed up, the

1757
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: ability to do that to a lineup. So much of

1758
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 1: baseball is about the third time through the order, and

1759
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: once the starting pitcher gets to the batting through the

1760
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 1: batting orders to that third time, a lot of the

1761
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 1: numbers will say the drop off comes, they'll go to

1762
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 1: the bullpen. The ability then to offer different looks out

1763
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: of your bullpen guys to cover innings six, seven, eight

1764
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 1: nine is huge. Into Emilio's point, they really didn't have

1765
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: that big a difference in their pen. Certainly they didn't

1766
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 1: have somebody with the curveball that Pierce Johnson has. I

1767
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 1: think that is a huge aspect of this pen going forward.

1768
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: And in terms of Burke, he's a lefty. You can

1769
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,600
Speaker 1: never have too many left handers. He's pitched in the postseason,

1770
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 1: pitched really well with the Rangers in twenty twenty two

1771
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 1: in fifty two games, he had a sub two earned

1772
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: run average and pitched in the twenty twenty three American

1773
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: League Championship Series and in the World Series for the

1774
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: Rangers in twenty twenty three as well. He will turn

1775
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: thirty in August, and he signed an arbitration deal with

1776
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,839
Speaker 1: the Angels this offseason, so he's got this year under contract,

1777
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 1: becomes a free agent next season. So you have two

1778
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:58,879
Speaker 1: lefties right, if you include Sam Mall, that's three lefties

1779
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 1: potentially of this bullpen, and you stack that up to

1780
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: cover three innings plus. With the rotation the Reds have

1781
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 1: this coming season, I don't think there's any question where

1782
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 1: the strength is. And yet at the same time, I

1783
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: don't think there's any questions where the concerns are. As

1784
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: Terry said when he was here earlier, I didn't think

1785
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: they're gonna leave the National League and run scored, certainly,

1786
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 1: but it's a matter of getting more production from guys

1787
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 1: compared to a year ago, and that means a bounce

1788
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 1: back from somebody like Matt McClain healthy, that means more

1789
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: from keep Brian Hayes at third base. But I think

1790
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 1: potentially the health of Spencer Steer from the start of

1791
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 1: the season versus the struggles through the first month of

1792
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 1: last season with a clearly a compromised shoulder made him

1793
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 1: a different hitter. I like the chances of one sixty

1794
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 1: two and what Spencer Steer is gonna do numbers wise,

1795
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be really interesting to see, and

1796
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 1: it's why I'm a big fan of Matt McClain. He

1797
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 1: went through a lot mentally last season of a struggle

1798
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 1: where it was it was not something he was used to,

1799
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 1: but it was something that he got through over one

1800
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 1: sixty two and I think, as he said, it will

1801
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:10,759
Speaker 1: make him a better player, and certainly now that he's healthy,

1802
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what he does in twenty twenty six.

1803
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 1: It would certainly give this team. If he's anything like

1804
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: what he was in his rookie year where he wound

1805
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: up I think fourth and Rookie of the Year voting,

1806
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 1: it's going to be a big difference for this lineup.

1807
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: And where the struggles last year, where it was some

1808
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 1: fifty four games, I think it was scoring three runs

1809
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: or fewer. If you can get more from that aspect,

1810
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be a huge deal for

1811
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,879
Speaker 1: this offense. All right, let's do this. The man is approaching.

1812
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 1: I got to get a check on news. I hope

1813
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't mind me going to news. Take a quick

1814
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: time out, and then when we come back. Will Benson

1815
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,839
Speaker 1: is on the stage. He's got a smile on his face.

1816
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: And even though I put him on the spot and said,

1817
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 1: would you mind sticking around five minutes before we talk,

1818
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: would you be willing to do that? All right, he's

1819
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: going to do that. How about that, Will Benson? Everybody,

1820
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,799
Speaker 1: let's take it to time out, get a check on news.

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Speaker 1: We're at Reds Fest. It's RNL carrier Sports Talk presented

1822
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 1: by Kelsey Chevrolet. We're here till nine tonight. Sterling in

1823
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 1: after that thanks to Joe Wadell producing back of the station.

1824
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 1: Thanks to Mike Mills taking care of me here on

1825
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Speaker 1: the left, your news and then more, Red's conversation with

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Speaker 1: Will Benson ahead from the convention Center on seven hundred

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Speaker 1: WLW eight thirty seven, seven hundred WLW. Welcome back to

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01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 1: sports Talk. We're hanging at it Red's Fest, the place

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01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 1: to be this weekend, rolling until nine and certainly enjoying

1830
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 1: the conversation. Very excited with our next guest. He's joining

1831
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: me on the stage. He's taken over my iPad because

1832
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 1: he's suited by all this information. There is a website. Well,

1833
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 1: let's welcome him in first. Give it up to Will Benson.

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Speaker 13: Everybody, Yeah, I love it, I love it.

1835
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 8: I love it.

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01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 1: It's great to see you. You are, you're You're seemingly

1837
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 1: mesmerized by this. Baseball Savant is a wonderful stat page

1838
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 1: that shows you everything about everybody, and you're like, this

1839
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 1: is really interesting to you, isn't it.

1840
01:22:58,320 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 13: Well, yeah, I mean I was just trying to figure

1841
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 13: out out Well, this off season, I've been working on

1842
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,719
Speaker 13: understanding my strengths, right, and what better way to understand

1843
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 13: what I'm good at, yeah than looking at baseball suphant

1844
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 13: And I mean I knew this was what it was,

1845
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 13: but just looked a little bit more intriguing at the stage.

1846
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 1: I told you this when you walked up. I don't

1847
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 1: know that I've ever ever remembered somebody who had a

1848
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 1: season consistently hit the ball as hard as you did

1849
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 1: into the worst luck, like right at somebody. What's it

1850
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: like when you I mean the idea you can't control.

1851
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 1: All you can do is control your process and squared

1852
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: it up. The rest is out of your control. What's

1853
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 1: it like when you just hit it right at somebody

1854
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 1: and just say, man, I barreled that.

1855
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1856
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 13: Well, first I want to thank my teammates because you

1857
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 13: need brothers in the fight.

1858
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 8: I tell you what I mean.

1859
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 13: It can be very frustrating, it could be very aggravating,

1860
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 13: but it's always good when you got you know, guys

1861
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 13: in your corner just saying hey, man, don't change the thing.

1862
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 13: I think that's the biggest thing right when you are

1863
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 13: you know, hitting the ball in the nose and it's

1864
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 13: going to right at people. I think, you know, that

1865
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 13: little inclination of yours kind of like, hey, you know

1866
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 13: you want to don't change the thing, you know, And

1867
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 13: I'm glad of people that were around me were constantly

1868
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 13: reiterating that message, because that's what it takes, you know,

1869
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 13: just to stay stay on it.

1870
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 8: Man, hit the ball consistently that hard. Yeah.

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01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's let's go bigger picture talk team.

1872
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 1: Take me back to September. It's a playoff chase. Yeah,

1873
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: everybody's fans are scoreboard watching, like what the Mets do tonight?

1874
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 1: What do they do tonight? What's it like playing in

1875
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 1: games and experiencing September in a race?

1876
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1877
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 13: Man, I was just over there on another man. It's

1878
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 13: it's an honor, you know what I mean, because again

1879
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 13: veterans have told me, you know, you don't really get

1880
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:41,520
Speaker 13: this opportunity, and when you do, you need to relationship

1881
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 13: and really be in it. So you know, I was

1882
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 13: in it almost to a fobs two in it, you

1883
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 13: know what I mean. I'm checking it just you know,

1884
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 13: just like everybody else. But then you realize, like, hey,

1885
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 13: one game at a time, the most important game is today,

1886
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 13: and it's the best right when you can control your destiny.

1887
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 13: And so it was crazy right because that the point

1888
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 13: in time, our destiny was in the hands of someone else.

1889
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 13: So that makes you know, bites your nails a little bit,

1890
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 13: you know, making shake, but a you just stay calm

1891
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 13: through it, and it did the chips fall with at me.

1892
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,839
Speaker 1: You've referenced your teammates a couple of times. It seems

1893
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 1: like that group you guys as a whole, all the

1894
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:23,719
Speaker 1: pieces fit, the personalities, and you had each other's backs

1895
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: and there for each other. Talk to me about that

1896
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: aspect in it in one hundred and sixty two games.

1897
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: If that's not good, it can make life kind of

1898
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: miserable at times.

1899
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, chemistry is everything.

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Speaker 13: That's why I don't know how any team could make

1901
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 13: it without it in some regard, because I think every

1902
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 13: team hits a rough patch, right. I think even let's

1903
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 13: take the Dodgers for an example, they had a little

1904
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 13: rough patch in there, and they world champions, right. I

1905
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 13: think you don't bounce back without chemistry and just having

1906
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 13: that locker room camaraderie, right, And I love the guys

1907
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 13: in there. That's why I'm just you know, thankful to

1908
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 13: put this jersey back on again, because it's a process too,

1909
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 13: to have to you know, jail with people. You know,

1910
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 13: that takes time, especially if it's authentic and real. Right,

1911
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 13: you don't just very rarely do you just come up

1912
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 13: to people and it just like pops off, you know,

1913
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 13: and you're talking about a locker room with grown men

1914
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 13: and some boys. Chase Burns are like that birth the

1915
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 13: birthday boy, and that's crazy. He's spent his birthday with y'all. Man,

1916
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 13: that's cool. But yeah, like so, you know, I'm just

1917
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 13: thankful that we do have a good group and and uh,

1918
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 13: you know, I'm thankful to you know, just to be

1919
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 13: a part of that core guys who who've kind of

1920
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 13: been here the past few years and uh, you know, scratched.

1921
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 8: At the playoffs and hopefully can do something else.

1922
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 1: What what is your off season been, Like, what have

1923
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: you been doing?

1924
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 13: Man, it's been a blessing man. First and foremost, I've

1925
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 13: been a father, So it's incredible.

1926
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, I.

1927
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 13: Got two of them, Yeah, yeah, I got two of them.

1928
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 13: Went to Disney, so that was the first time doing that.

1929
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 13: Now, how old are the two, my son's three and

1931
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 13: my daughter's one or so. Yeah, I went to the

1932
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 13: one in California and so it wasn't too far away.

1933
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Speaker 13: I live in Arizona. And yeah, man, it was a blessing.

1934
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Speaker 4: It was.

1935
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Speaker 8: It was amazing. And then on the other side, yeah,

1936
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 8: just uh, just working on my craft, you.

1937
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 13: Know, just getting better and you know, being consistent with

1938
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 13: just showing up to the gym and you know, just

1939
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 13: giving it what I got, you know, that day and

1940
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,600
Speaker 13: learning and put my body in a position to go

1941
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Speaker 13: out there and succeed.

1942
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Speaker 8: So that that's been great.

1943
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 13: Faith's great, you know, just really taking time to be

1944
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 13: with myself as well. I was just help having two kids, right,

1945
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 13: But you know, he.

1946
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:38,639
Speaker 1: Was talking with Nicolodola, who's a yeah, and it is.

1947
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 1: I mean it's life changing. You think you have a

1948
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:44,640
Speaker 1: perspective on life and it all changes and changes.

1949
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 13: And then you add it too, you know, man, your

1950
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 13: life just starts shaking up. So yeah, I'm thankful that

1951
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 13: I was able to find some time for myself as

1952
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 13: well and just to grow.

1953
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 8: So it's a lot of girl.

1954
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 1: You have. You have a killer voice. You should like

1955
01:27:58,680 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: I could hear you on the radio.

1956
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, you appreciate that.

1957
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do, like the Will Benson Show or.

1958
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 8: Something you thinks.

1959
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 13: So yeah, right now I am. And when that time comes,

1960
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:10,599
Speaker 13: let's I got to play for a little bit longer.

1961
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 10: All right, Well, I get on it.

1962
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 1: That's a deal. So what you've got about a month

1963
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 1: before camp starts, you hit the Goodyear anything on the

1964
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:19,799
Speaker 1: docket between now and uh and Goodyear.

1965
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 13: Well, the cool thing is I live in Arizona, so yea,

1966
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 13: I'm right there at the complex. Yeah, like the thirty

1967
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 13: minute drives, so yeah, man, yeah, I'll be popping in

1968
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 13: and out, just trying to get the routine down you

1969
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 13: used to the complex again, that's a whole nother situation.

1970
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 13: But then also just trying to find as many like

1971
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,759
Speaker 13: live reps as I can, you know, speaking towards lobbyps

1972
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 13: and things of that nature, just trying to find some

1973
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 13: some of those before I, you know, come into camp

1974
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 13: and just you know, hit the ground running.

1975
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:46,560
Speaker 1: You have to be somewhere and I don't want to

1976
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 1: hold you up because I think they're waiting to take

1977
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 1: you to the main stage. But this is awesome. This

1978
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 1: is the one main stage.

1979
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, you're going.

1980
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 1: To another main stage. This was cool. Thank you for

1981
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 1: hanging out with us. Of course that's the luck. Yes,

1982
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 1: and if you need like to text me and I'll

1983
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 1: send you information in baseball tech's do that will Benson Everybody.

1984
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 1: We'll take a time out to continue Sports Talk from

1985
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 1: Red's Fest seven hundred WLW. All right down the stretch

1986
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,679
Speaker 1: we go, final segment of the night. Sports Talk from

1987
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: Red's Fest. Had a blast and what a way to

1988
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 1: wrap it up tonight. Final guest of the night. One

1989
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 1: of my favorites and uh he's certainly a fan favorite.

1990
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 1: Everybody give it up to the man on the stage,

1991
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: TJ and Tone. Everybody, thank you. It is great to

1992
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 1: see you. You look great. You said you feel great,

1993
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 1: so life must be good.

1994
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 14: Hey, life is God has really blessed me, man I

1995
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 14: got I gotta say it's it's just been a roller

1996
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 14: coaster of a story. And when you're in it, it's

1997
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 14: it's hard when you know when you're down and things

1998
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 14: aren't going well and you're you're having surgeries and you're

1999
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 14: trying to fix it, and you know people are looking

2000
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,440
Speaker 14: up to you and you and you want to be successful,

2001
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:54,759
Speaker 14: but you know it just doesn't work out or whatever.

2002
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:57,680
Speaker 14: But you know, you go behind the scenes and you

2003
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 14: and you work, and you know a lot of people,

2004
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 14: well you don't get the praise and the plods and

2005
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 14: when you're you know, seven am workouts and getting after

2006
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:08,600
Speaker 14: it on your own, and you know, people see the

2007
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:10,799
Speaker 14: success on the field, but they forget about what happens

2008
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 14: behind the scenes.

2009
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 6: And it's just you know what.

2010
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 14: A lot of people have said, it's the grid, determination,

2011
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 14: the hard work, you know, all those those things I

2012
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 14: had to put into it, and you know it's finally

2013
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 14: paying off. You know, it's finally paying off. I feel

2014
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 14: really good. I'm very, very excited about this year coming forward.

2015
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 14: The Reds blessed me with another.

2016
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:29,839
Speaker 1: Opportunity invite to spring training.

2017
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 14: Yeah, and invite to spring training twelfth year with the

2018
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 14: Cincinnati Reds. So yeah, signed in twenty fourteen, and you

2019
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 14: know the rest is history.

2020
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 1: Now, when you say you feel good, let's give some

2021
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 1: context here for those who may not know the complete backstory.

2022
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 1: You have been through three Tommy John surgeries. You were

2023
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:51,680
Speaker 1: attempting to do what very few on the planet have

2024
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,799
Speaker 1: done to come back from a third Timmy John surgery.

2025
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:58,680
Speaker 1: When you say you feel good, you have you have

2026
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 1: the ability to give me text feeling good with what

2027
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:03,679
Speaker 1: you've gone through, that is huge.

2028
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2029
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 14: Yeah, doctor Krimchek really did a fantastic job with this

2030
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 14: last surgery. I really obliterated my elbow that last time.

2031
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 14: So he the flexor tendon't tore all the way off,

2032
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 14: it ripped the UCL off with it. You know, that

2033
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 14: was a very very dark day for me. I just

2034
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,640
Speaker 14: thought my career was over, and you know, you just

2035
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 14: think about what's next. Maybe I go into coaching, maybe

2036
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:29,599
Speaker 14: I go into you know, I did broadcasting there for

2037
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 14: a second, you know, and you start to think about

2038
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:34,560
Speaker 14: what's next. But doctor Krimchak did a great job. He

2039
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 14: put anchors in there. He completely shaped down my bone,

2040
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 14: started new, started fresh. He put a a essentially an

2041
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 14: internal brace is what it's called, in there, so I have,

2042
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 14: you know, some extra security.

2043
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 10: Uh.

2044
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 14: He added a collagen patch, which is kind of a

2045
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:54,639
Speaker 14: newer thing. So a lot of gadgets in the elbow,

2046
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 14: I should say. And yeah, man, when when I say

2047
01:31:57,760 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 14: it it's feeling good, I have no pain.

2048
01:31:59,320 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 6: I have no pain.

2049
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 14: I think that's like really something special, because you know,

2050
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 14: I had some pain here and there on that second one,

2051
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 14: and I was fighting things and and no one really

2052
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 14: feels perfect all the time, like we're you know, throwing

2053
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 14: a baseball is hard, and whenever you're throwing ninety three plus,

2054
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 14: really and you're doing it on a daily basis, it's

2055
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 14: just a lot of work, you know, and it takes

2056
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 14: a lot, so you know, to feel good and to

2057
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 14: not have pain, like praise the Lord for that, you know,

2058
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 14: and so and then at the end on the other

2059
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 14: side of that, it's just there's a lot of guys

2060
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 14: who have surgery and feel good, right, but never get

2061
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 14: another opportunity. So again I have to thank the Reds

2062
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 14: for for sticking their neck out and giving me another

2063
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 14: opportunity and an an invite to camp to see what

2064
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:40,720
Speaker 14: I'm to see what I'm I'm working with.

2065
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:44,679
Speaker 1: Your journey is something they should make a movie about someday.

2066
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 1: For the moment you're writing a book about it, tell

2067
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,679
Speaker 1: me author TJ. In Tone about this book.

2068
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 4: You know.

2069
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 14: First, I gotta say I never thought I'd be an author.

2070
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 14: In in fifth grade I failed my reading like state

2071
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 14: testourth grade sorry, and fourth grade I failed my my

2072
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,719
Speaker 14: my state reading test and I got put in remedial

2073
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 14: reading my fifth grade year.

2074
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, so to think that.

2075
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 14: Like if I would tell my fifth grade self like, oh,

2076
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 14: You're gonna be an author someday, I wouldn't believe it,

2077
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 14: you know. So I just got to you know, anything's possible.

2078
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 14: What I'm trying to say, guys, you know, especially just

2079
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 14: with you know, grammar writing tools nowadays, I mean, they

2080
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 14: really help you out. Let me tell you. And I'll

2081
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 14: even do all my grammar writing stuff. And my wife's like, yeah,

2082
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,520
Speaker 14: you missed a comma there? Why is that letter capitalized?

2083
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 14: Like I'm like, I don't know figuring this out out.

2084
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 6: The book is done.

2085
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 1: You're you're not like working on it. You put in

2086
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 1: the work.

2087
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, So the book is done. It's kind of a

2088
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 6: two part series.

2089
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 14: It's going to be called the Tommy John Protocol, and

2090
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 14: so I've you know, I've had Tommy John three times.

2091
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 14: The front half of the book is my personal journey,

2092
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 14: and it's going to just talk about conversations that I had,

2093
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 14: how I was feeling on certain situations, things that I

2094
01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:00,040
Speaker 14: did a lot of just behind the scenes action and

2095
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 14: emotion and stories that people and fans don't know that

2096
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 14: happened the day that I tore my my ucl the

2097
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 14: third time. And just like what you know. I went

2098
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 14: into the locker room and just tried, like you know,

2099
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 14: and I was and I'm very vulnerable in the book

2100
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 14: and just talking about what I went through and so

2101
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 14: and and I know that my story is an an

2102
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 14: inspiration to other kids who have gone through or going

2103
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 14: through surgeries and think that their career is over. But

2104
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 14: have they have to see hope or you don't have

2105
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 14: hope with that surgery and say I can make it back.

2106
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 6: Look he did three, I can do one, you know.

2107
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 14: And I want I want kids to to feel that inspiration.

2108
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:40,719
Speaker 14: So the front half of the book is my story.

2109
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 14: The back half of the book is going to be

2110
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:45,600
Speaker 14: technical knowledge around Tommy John surgeries. I go all the

2111
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:50,640
Speaker 14: way through mindsets. You should have pre surgery things you

2112
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 14: should do, surgery days, things you should do. You know,

2113
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:58,799
Speaker 14: sleeping techniques, when you have the brace on early rehab,

2114
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 14: you know, rehability, Haitian thought processes, throwing programs.

2115
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 6: Yeah. I give it all out there.

2116
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 14: And you know the coolest thing is I'm gonna I'm

2117
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 14: gonna self publish this book through Amazon. I'm gonna sell

2118
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 14: for thirty books. So I'm putting my life and soul

2119
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 14: into this book. And I'm gonna make it as perfect

2120
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 14: as it can possibly be. And I'm selling for Nichols,

2121
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 14: you know what I mean. So I also mentioned to

2122
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 14: you before we started, I want to do a podcast,

2123
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:22,599
Speaker 14: or not a podcast, an audiobook version of it so

2124
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 14: people can kind of hear my emotion and you know,

2125
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:28,719
Speaker 14: me speaking about what's happening, you know, when I'm telling

2126
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:30,720
Speaker 14: the story, and then be able to kind of go

2127
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 14: off the script and say, yeah, this is what happened

2128
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 14: in that moment, this is what I was feeling, and

2129
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:37,679
Speaker 14: you know that was really exciting or that was really

2130
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 14: scary or whatever, and you know, just be able to

2131
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 14: connect even deeper on another level versus just reading a book.

2132
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 1: What is it that I think someone on the outside

2133
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:51,639
Speaker 1: who's never been in it would say, Man, a third,

2134
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 1: why put yourself through the grind again? What is it

2135
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 1: that keeps you pushing through to this point?

2136
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 6: And why not? You know, I'd ask that question, why not?

2137
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 4: You know?

2138
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 14: I I think I've seen myself have success on a

2139
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 14: Big League mound, which is the highest level of pitching

2140
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 14: in the world, and I've seen myself as success there,

2141
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 14: and I know that I can do that when I'm

2142
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 14: healthy and I just I'm not ready to give that

2143
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 14: dream up yet. And so I'm I'm just I have

2144
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 14: to continue to chase and and I've learned that the

2145
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 14: best part of everything, Like you can have the success

2146
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 14: on the mound, but really.

2147
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 6: It's the chase that's like the best part.

2148
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 14: Like the process is it Like when you fall in

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Speaker 14: love with the process and you really nail the process

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Speaker 14: and just do the day to day to the best

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Speaker 14: of your abilities, Like the things come, you know, and

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Speaker 14: they come and they go and whatever, however the story

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Speaker 14: ends up being written like it, you know, it's okay,

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Speaker 14: Like the process is really the most important thing. And

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Speaker 14: that's that's why I keep chasing it, because I just

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Speaker 14: can't give up the process.

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Speaker 6: I can't give it up.

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Speaker 1: When's the last time you threw?

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Speaker 14: Yes, I mean today, but I threw a bullpen yesterday.

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Speaker 14: I was ninety ninety one feeling good man, old man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just the look on your face, the the

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Speaker 1: excitement and the pride and it I can I can

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Speaker 1: see it. It's like oozing out of you. It's it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: I love it. Ye Hey, it's good to be underestimated.

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Speaker 6: It is good.

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Speaker 14: So you know, everyone's like, oh, we hope he makes

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Speaker 14: it back. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna be back.

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Speaker 1: And here one last question. I know you got to run.

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Speaker 1: But the thing that amazed me and talking with you

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Speaker 1: about this in the past, some after going through three

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Speaker 1: they might say, all right, I gott to become a

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Speaker 1: soft tosser. I gotta be just a curb by off

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Speaker 1: speed guy. You're coming back, guns of blazon, You're bringing

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Speaker 1: it back, all that you have.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, that's super important that I feel good.

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Speaker 14: So I think some guys that you might want to

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Speaker 14: make some adjustments as I did in that second one.

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Speaker 14: You know, I may have made some adjustments, might have

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Speaker 14: been pulled back on the gas a little bit, and

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Speaker 14: that's okay. Like, but I feel really good. So I'm

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Speaker 14: gonna I'm gonna put my best foot forward and we're

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Speaker 14: gonna go for it.

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Speaker 1: Man, I am so happy for you. Make me a

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Speaker 1: promise when the book is public, you're gonna you're gonna

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Speaker 1: call him, We're gonna talk on sports talk, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: spread the word. I'm so happy for you. It's an

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Speaker 1: incredible journey. I can't imagine what you've been through. But

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Speaker 1: your perspective and your faith and all of that. It

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Speaker 1: just it's something I root for.

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Speaker 14: So congratulations, Thank you, Lance, thank you No and of

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Speaker 14: course yeah, as soon as I decided to publish the book,

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Speaker 14: I'll be on there with you.

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Speaker 1: Good deal. How about TJ and Tone? Everybody?

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: You have a mainstage, you get to some catchers or

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Speaker 1: something like that, Feel free to take those off. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna continue talking to finish the show, but you be

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Speaker 1: on your way and have a great week. Thkeks, all right,

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Speaker 1: all right, TJ and Tone? Everybody? All right? Man oh man.

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Speaker 1: We talked with tonight. As I wrap this up, let

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Speaker 1: me look at this list in one night. How about

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Speaker 1: this for a kid who grew up in in Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: and Anderson Township. I got to sit here tonight and

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Speaker 1: talk with Nicolodolo and Emilio Pagan and Terry Francona and

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Speaker 1: Matt McClain, Sam Mall came by, Zach Maxwell, came by

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Speaker 1: Brandon Williamson, Will Benson and TJ and Tone. How about one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,

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Speaker 1: nine different guys tonight like a batting order tonight. I

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Speaker 1: told Will I'm glad he came up because I was

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Speaker 1: talking with a lot of pictures for a long time.

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Speaker 1: It was nice talk, little hitting with will Hey. Thanks

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Speaker 1: to Joe Waddell who produced it all tonight. Thanks to

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Speaker 1: Mike Mills here to my left, stick around Sterling is

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Speaker 1: in in the studios tonight. He's got you nine to midnight.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to the Reds for their help tonight in

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Speaker 1: bringing up the guest, and thanks to everybody hanging out

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Speaker 1: tonight in the gallery as well. Reds Fest continues until

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Speaker 1: ten thirty tonight and then back at it tomorrow for

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Speaker 1: Day two eleven am until six thirty if any If

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Speaker 1: tomorrow's anything like today, today was nuts. When I walked

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Speaker 1: in and I saw the crowd, I said, oh, reddits

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Speaker 1: Fest is back. This has been Sports Talk Rnel Carrier.

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Speaker 1: Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevallet. Hanging at at Redsfest

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Speaker 1: the Convention Center on seven hundred WLW