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Thanks for starting a 10 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: new week right here with us on CINCY three to sixty. 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: Listening on ESPN fifteen thirty or via the iHeartRadio app. 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: If you're listening via the app, go ahead and make 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: us a preset favorite and hit that microphone button. Leave 14 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: us a talkback. We'll dive into those talkbacks today in 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: our number two. It's a different week on SINCY three 16 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: to sixty because we are in tournament week NCAA Conference 17 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: Basketball tournament games happening all throughout the week, and because 18 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: we here on ESPN fifteen thirty are the home of 19 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: the Bengals. You look right down the hall and you 20 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,279 Speaker 2: got the Bearcats, and you get the Cincinnati Reds. Also, 21 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: what happens on this station is Kentucky basketball, which means 22 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: Austin that as of now, on Wednesday, we will not 23 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: be in for a show. Kentucky plays at twelve thirty, 24 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: So Kentucky will play Wednesday at twelve thirty, meaning we 25 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: will not be on the air on Wednesday. There's a 26 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: possibility on Thursday, depending if Kentucky wins or loses that 27 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: game as well, but implications kind of surrounding our week 28 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: here at least being on air on ESPN fifteen thirty. 29 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: So regardless of that, we'll just make the most of 30 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: what we do have. We know we're here today, we 31 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: know we're here tomorrow, and we'll have some fun with 32 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: it along the way. We will recap today a college 33 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: basketball weekend that was the regular season is done in 34 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: college basketball. Some conference tournaments are already underway. Some conference 35 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: tournaments are already finished. Other conference tournaments are just getting 36 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: set to get underway. The Bearcats, the Wildcats of Kentucky, 37 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: the Dayton Flyers, the Xavier Musketeers all lost their regular 38 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: season finale over the weekend. Miami did not convincing unbelievable 39 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: scenes in Athens, Ohio on Friday night, Miami wins in overtime. 40 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: Their perfect season regular season is complete, and I think 41 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: with that comes an NCAA tournament birth. Louisville a winner 42 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: over the weekend. Ohio State Bruce Thornton, Bobblehead Night cements themselves. 43 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: You would think into the tournament field by beating Indiana 44 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 2: and how about Austin. What the NKU Norse did last night, 45 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: a close game in the first half against Doug Gottlieb's 46 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: Green Bay squad and then NKU oh already, Tony. 47 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 3: We are often running with the legal tampering period in 48 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: the National Football League. 49 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: A bearcat is off the board. 50 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: Oh. 51 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 3: The Indianapolis Colts have agreed to a four year, one 52 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: and sixteen million dollar deal with Alec Pierce. Okay, Alec 53 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 3: Pierce returns to Indianapolis. All right, good for him, Good 54 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: for Alec Pierce. I thought you were his money right there. 55 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: You're talking about a barricott. I thought were gonna say, 56 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: Brian Cook, that was gonna be disappointing. Travis Kelcey. 57 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: Ian Rappaport reported earlier today about a half hour ago 58 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: that Travis Kelsey's expected to return to the Kansas City Chiefs. 59 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: Okay, so the Bearcats are clearly the hottest commodities. Big 60 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: Bearcat Day. In Lee's tampering. 61 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: As now you mentioned legal tampering is underway, the window 62 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: is open. 63 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: And to get back to what you were saying prior 64 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: to that breaking news, the window is always open for 65 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: the Norse, you know. I had Paul Fritchner on seven 66 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 3: hundred WLW with me on Friday and he passed along 67 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: a note that I believe he had heard from Rick Brooring, 68 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 3: So I don't know either way, both of them get 69 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 3: credit for it. Going into the game against Green Bay 70 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: this weekend, Darren Horn is three and oh in the 71 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 3: Horizon League Tournament against coaches that swept him in the 72 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 3: regular season. 73 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: Oh. 74 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: Doug Gottlieb and the Green Bay Phoenix swept NKU in 75 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 3: the regular season, and Darren Horn advances to four and 76 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: oh against those coaches after a twenty point beat down 77 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: of the Phoenix and the Horizon League Tournament in Indianapolis, 78 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: setting up for a showdown with the Right State Raiders. 79 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: Oh. 80 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 3: By the way, Tony swept the Norse in the regular season. Wow, 81 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: opportunity knocks for NKU. 82 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: Wow, what an opportunity for Darren Horn's NKU Norse. Again, 83 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: a sixty point second half, sixty point second half yesterday 84 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: for the Norse. That helps them advance. So we do 85 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: have a lot of college basketball to get to this afternoon. 86 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: We will put a bow on the regular season and 87 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: we will look ahead to the conference tournaments. By the way, 88 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: I believe Austin that writes Day games tonight, right, yes, 89 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: I believe so, Okay, So m KU writes Day that's 90 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: at seven o'clock tonight. The other semifinal Detroit Mercy and 91 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: Robert Morris. So another opportunity awaits for Darren Horn's Northern 92 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: Kentucky squad, and we'll obviously keep an eye on that 93 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 2: along with all the other college basketball we'll get to 94 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: this afternoon. Of course, it's a big day in the 95 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: National Football League as well, legal tampering as we just 96 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 2: mentioned as underwe and it's already been a busy weekend 97 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 2: in the National Football League. We will spend time today 98 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: on the news in the AFC North that came down 99 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: over the weekend and the news that Jamar Chase reacted 100 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: to as well. Max Crosby is a Baltimore raven The 101 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: Ravens give up two first round draft picks for Max Crosby. 102 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: We will discuss those implications on the AFC North today. 103 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: Another huge move in the National Football League, and by huge, 104 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: I talk about the dead money that's going to be 105 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: on the table because the Miami Dolphins have moved on 106 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: from Tua tonguevia Looa and they will eat Austin ninety 107 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: nine million dollars in dead cap money. Unbelievable, unreal right 108 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: now with what the Dolphins are doing. Also full rebuild happening, yes, Miami. 109 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: The Dolphins also have moved their Pro Bowl safety, five 110 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 2: time Pro Bowl safety Mink Fitzpatrick to the New York Jets. 111 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 2: The Jets, in return, will send a twenty twenty sixth 112 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: seventh round pick to the Dolphins. So, just to clear 113 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: that up, Austin twenty nine year old Minca Fitzpatrick was 114 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: just moved for a seventh round pick. 115 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: And he's signing a three year, forty million dollar extension 116 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: with the New York Jets. Is Minka Fitzpatrick, So clearly 117 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: some value there. Yeah, and Miami is in the midst 118 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: of me. It's a complete and total rebuild. And it's 119 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: gonna be that way for a little while, and they're 120 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: gonna be obviously hamstrung by some of those issues with 121 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 3: all that dead cat money moving on from other stuff. 122 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, I have some faith in in 123 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: the Dolphins because Jeff Hafley I think very highly of, 124 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: even going back to his time at Ohio State, so 125 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: I think he'll be a good coach. But it's gonna 126 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: take them a while to build a roster viable. And 127 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 3: by the way it reports already you're coming out that 128 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: Tua is probably going to end up with the Atlanta Falcons. 129 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: They obviously already have Michael Pennix, the left handed quarterback 130 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: there that they drafted in the first round, so that 131 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: would be another left handed quarterback that they would bring in. 132 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: Kevin Stefanski, of course, worked with Dylan Gabriel who was 133 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: a left handed quarterback when he was in Cleveland last year, 134 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: so that's interesting. And they've already added a weapon another 135 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: wide receiver off the board in legal tampering period, it's 136 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: Alamide Zakias signing with the Atlanta Falcons. He made their 137 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 3: roster as an undrafted free agent seven or eight years ago, 138 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: spent last year had a very good year with the 139 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: Chicago Bears. 140 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: He comes back to Atlanta to help the Falcons. So 141 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: things already moving fast today. Another move that was made 142 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: earlier today, the Cowboys had rumored to be in on 143 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: Max Crosby. They didn't get to land that name. They 144 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: do land Rashan Gary, the former Green Bay Packer, and 145 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: Rashan Gary will be sent in return from the Cowboys 146 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: to the Packers a fourth round pick in the twenty 147 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: twenty seven NFL Draft. So, I know there's differentiated opinions 148 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: out there, Austin, what was your take on the price 149 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: that the Cowboys paid for Rashaun Gary. 150 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: I was open to the Bengals making a run at 151 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: Rashaan Gary, but I was not open to it being 152 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: like a fourth round pick. 153 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: Well you mentioned it today, fourth round pick. That's Geno Watkins. 154 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, in Duke Tobin's mind, it is, and in 155 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 3: this particular case, I mean he's probably right to not 156 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: give up a fourth round pick for it. I mean, 157 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: the backers were on the verge of cutting the guy, 158 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: and so that's why I think he was at least 159 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: a possibility for the Bengals. But I would have been 160 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 3: open to it. I think that the Cowboys overpaid a 161 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: little bit. But yeah, we will. We'll keep you up 162 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: with everything going on. 163 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: Today. 164 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: Uh oh oh, No, the guy I wanted the most, 165 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: I think has just signed. The Patriots have signed Draymont Jones. 166 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 3: According to Diana Russini of The Athletic, Draymont Jones was 167 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 3: traded to Baltimore mid season last year and had a 168 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 3: really good season for Baltimore. The Ravens were making a 169 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 3: push to keep him, but he goes to the New 170 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: England Patriots. 171 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: Okay, so that was. 172 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: One of the guys that I had circled as a 173 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: potential Bengal. Draymont Jones leaves the AFC North and goes 174 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: to New England to unite with another Buckeye, Mike. 175 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: Frabel. There we go forgetting his name. We will. We'll 176 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: keep you up to speed with everything that's happening. It 177 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: should and will be a busy day across the National 178 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: Football League. It was reassuring to hear Austin that the 179 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: Bengals at least were in the conversation with Max Crosby. 180 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: Huh yeah, I wonder what that was like. 181 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 3: It was probably about as realistic as the Reds landing 182 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 3: Kyle Schwarber, probably right, Probably right. 183 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: We'll keep an eye on the National Football League. We'll 184 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: talk about the implications of Max Crosby and if the 185 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: Bengals would or should have given up two first round 186 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: picks and what you would have done to that extent. 187 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: Other happenings this weekend. FC Cincinnati loses a tough one 188 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: to Toronto. They fell one to nothing yesterday. Did you 189 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: see what the Cincinnati Cyclones did? Did you hear it 190 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: all about the Cyclones game over the weekend? Was it 191 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: the three ways game with the sweater? 192 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 4: No? 193 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: It was after that, Oh, it was after that. They 194 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: went into twenty periods of a shootout. Oh my god, 195 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: a twenty round shootout? Did they really one round shy 196 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: of an all time record? They defeated the Utah Grizzlies 197 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 2: in a shootout that featured twenty rounds. How about Ken Appleby, 198 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 2: the goaltender for the Cyclones, stopped eighteen of the twenty 199 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: shots in the shootout. 200 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: Did you say Applebee's yes? Apple bye? Oh apple b 201 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 3: dang unbelievable. I think both teams should have just agreed 202 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: to shoot one off, you know, shoot one off the side. Yeah, 203 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 3: just to get to the record. Yep, I agree with that. Well, 204 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: you know, I guess some things are bigger than sports. 205 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, okay, cool cool for the Cyclones. Who did 206 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: you say they played Utah the Utah Grizzlies. Yes, they 207 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: play games against teams in Utah. Yes, I didn't think 208 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 3: they traveled that far. Yes, Wow, they beat Utah. I'm 209 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 3: learning a lot so every time I go. They played 210 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: the Toledo Walleye. I know that's the team they've played 211 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: every time I've went for the last twenty years. 212 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: Shocked me that they didn't have that against Toledo. We'll 213 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: recap the Reds weekend. That was Opening Day news coming 214 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: down yesterday Andrew Abbott, I think expected we'll have the 215 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: ball on opening Day against the Boston Red Sox, and 216 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: I believe Austin based on what we heard last week. 217 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 2: Tomorrow is when we should get some kind of update 218 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: on Hunter Green. Is that still the timeline. 219 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 3: As far as I know, Yes, we'll learn more about 220 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 3: a Hunter Green tomorrow. He had come back to Cincinnati 221 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: and saw doctor Krimchek and then went back out to 222 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 3: Los Angeles to talk to doctor Neil Elatrosh and now 223 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 3: probably working with the Reds to come up with a 224 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: plan and then that will more than likely provide some 225 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 3: sort of insight as to what it is going forward tomorrow. 226 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: My assumption is going to be that he starts the 227 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 3: season on the eye. 228 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would imagine that. 229 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 3: And on Friday, Charlie did shed a little bit of 230 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: light on the timeline that basically the Reds have known 231 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 3: about this the whole time, and the first time they 232 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: chose that rest waited a month after the season, got 233 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: a shot, rested it, and things were good up until 234 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: about a week before spring training. So I guess the 235 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: options are do that again and see if it gets better, 236 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 3: or go in and scope. 237 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: Out and we'll see in July or whatever it might be. 238 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: Keep an eye on that all things Hunter Green, It's 239 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: a Monday, which means we'll throw a new mock draft 240 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: Monday out there for the Cincinnati Bengals. And I know 241 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: we're still in the early stages of at Austin, but 242 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: the scenes from the ballparks and the games right now 243 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: in the World Baseball Classic I think have been phenomenal. 244 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: I agree the atmospheres are awesome. Watching Kyle Schwarber step 245 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: up to the plate and hit a bomb on Saturday 246 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: night was awesome. It just like there are so many 247 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: high like the plays Manny Machado made a third the 248 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: other night. Did you see those back to back? Yeah, ridiculous, 249 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: But to me, it's everything good about baseball that sometimes 250 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: I think Major League Baseball fails to capture, and that 251 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: is you can see the passion from these fan bases 252 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: when you look inside these ballparks. I think it's been 253 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: awesome to watch and I continue to want to tune in. 254 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: I know USA tonight has a big one at eight 255 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: pm against Mexico, who beat Great Britain and Brazil to 256 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: start their World Baseball Classic, the two teams that the 257 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: Americans have also beat to start their World Baseball Classic. 258 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, they're in pool play together, so all those 259 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: teams play each other. Did you see the nuke that 260 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 3: Kyle Schwarber hit, Yeah the other day Saturday night, pretty ridiculous. 261 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: Say that. I saw a tweet on him. It pulled up, 262 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: But it was all the home runs that Kyle Schwarber 263 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: has hit, like World Series home run, every home run 264 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: in every big game that he's hit. Now he crosses 265 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: the World Baseball Classic off. Yeah, and I also scial Middletown. 266 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 3: You know Trek school ball, first pitch of the game 267 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: gives up a bomb yep, which you know he did 268 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 3: that against Cleveland in the playoffs too, which is kind 269 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: of crazy. But now apparently he wants to stick around. 270 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: Well yeah, I guess been talking to the Tigers like, hey, 271 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: I like this, I want to do this. Let me 272 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: make another start for Team US. He got caught up 273 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 3: in it. It's been cool to see, like the way 274 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: that they those guys because I didn't realize this going 275 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 3: in that so many of them played together coming up, 276 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 3: like Paul Skeens and Pete crow Er Armstrong and so 277 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: those other case they all played on the youth national 278 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: teams coming up. 279 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: So that's been cool to see. 280 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: And you know, the excitement around every single one of 281 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: those teams. I mean there have been some good games 282 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 3: like h but we talked about how terrible they were 283 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 3: they went out won their first game. Yeah, it's just 284 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: kind of hard to believe, but yeah, man, it's been fun. 285 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: It is Uh yeah, I don't know, there's something about it, 286 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: and there's something about the like I said, just the. 287 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: The the countries and the power behind that and and 288 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 3: just the passion that you can see inside these stadiums. 289 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: It's I'm sure it'll be the same with USA and 290 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: Mexico tonight. But shout out to the world Baseball class 291 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 3: for US tonight. 292 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: Do we know? Ooh, it's a good question. I don't 293 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 2: know yet. 294 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 3: You know, the real star of the weekend has been 295 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 3: the ice cream sandwich at the Tokyo Dome. Okay, Paul 296 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: Skiings by the way, tonight for the for the good 297 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 3: luck Mexico USA against Mexico. Paul Skiings on the mount 298 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 3: Have you seen this ice cream sandwich in Tokyo? No, 299 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: at the Tokyo Dome. No, just look it up, just 300 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 3: if anybody who's listening, just search Tokyo Dome ice cream sandwich. 301 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: It is an ice cream sandwich in the shape of 302 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: the Tokyo Dome, and it looks unbelievable. Like I just 303 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 3: I've seen so many photos in this thing and it 304 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: has me been craving an ice cream sandwich while and 305 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 3: I'm a big ice cream sandwich fan. Dude, it looks 306 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: so good. Yeah, we need this great American ballpark. Get 307 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 3: it dunks, if you're listening, get it done. All right, 308 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 3: let's take our first break. Five one three, seven, four nine, 309 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 3: fifteen thirty. That's the phone line that's for. 310 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 2: You to call Center ice Cream Sandwich. Oh, sign me up, 311 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: truest Arena, sign me up. We uh. We will start 312 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: when we get back with some huge AFC North news 313 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 2: that happened over the weekend. Max Crosby is a Baltimore Raven. 314 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 2: We'll talk about what that means, disgusting, our thoughts on 315 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: that and more next on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports 316 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 2: Station thanks to Skyline CHILEI. 317 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 4: Time. 318 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: The defense this spread is Thorton Bull's update. Bruce the 319 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: all time in the history to the high help State 320 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: fanskipball get on a dead ball. They may stop this game. 321 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: And celebrate him. 322 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: How about Brucey bruce Man Bruce Bruce with it the 323 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: all time leader and delivered a big win for the Buckeyes. 324 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: Holds up and. 325 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 3: Banged a three and sent the place into pandemonium. 326 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 2: That game, along with many other Saturday, made the uc 327 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: loss that much worse because it felt like every Bubble 328 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 2: team that needed to lose lost opened up the door. 329 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: Bearcats were not able to kick the door in. As 330 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: mentioned in the first segment, some Bearcats already making moves 331 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: in the NFL, though, Travis Kelce is back for his 332 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 2: fourteenth year to the Kansas City Chiefs and one one 333 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: hundred and sixteen million dollars over four years for former 334 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: Bearcat Alec Pierce. In the Indianapolis colt. 335 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 3: That was Fox Sports Gus Johnson got the call of 336 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 3: Bruce Thornton breaking the all time scoring record at Ohio stated, 337 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: I was at that game. It was an electric environment. 338 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 3: That was the first ever Ohio State men's basketball game 339 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: I've ever been to. Wow, And I don't know that 340 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: I can beat that one. And you got the Bible 341 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 3: to bludgeon them. The way that they did shoot lights 342 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: out from three. Get a Bruce Thornton bobblehead was awesome 343 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: and in the buck, guys are probably gonna make the tournament. 344 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: I was saying, presumably punched their ticket to the NCAA tournament. 345 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 3: For the first time in Bruce Thornton's long careers that 346 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 3: he's been able to do that. By the way, you 347 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 3: were talking about the Kansas City Chiefs, m oh, the 348 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs have made. 349 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: A move, Okay. 350 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 3: Sources tell the insiders on NFL Network that Super Bowl 351 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 3: MVP Kenneth Walker is headed to Kansas City to be 352 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 3: the Chiefs new running back. 353 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: Wow. 354 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: Now, a lot of mock drafts have shown the Chiefs 355 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: taking Jeremiah Love at number nine right before the Bengals. 356 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 3: I've read recently some people don't think Jeremiah Love is 357 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 3: going to get out of the top five. Yeah, so 358 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 3: Kansas City not going to mess with fire. They take 359 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker, the Super Bowl MVP from just a month ago. Busy, 360 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 3: busy start to legal tampering for the Kansas City Chiefs. 361 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: Tampering is happening, right, Bengals, thankfully, Bengals just kind of 362 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 3: laying in the weeds right now. Well, they're not going 363 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 3: to sit on their hands, correct, which is it's kind 364 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 3: of a big deal. 365 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And they didn't sit on their hands Austin when 366 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 2: it came to Max Crosby either, because what we've on 367 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: our hands. Yes, what we learned is that the Bengals 368 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 2: at least kicked the tires on the Max Crosby deal. Yeah. Now, 369 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 2: if you missed it, the Baltimore Ravens land Max Crosby 370 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: and in return, the Baltimore Ravens give up two future 371 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 2: first round picks, one this year, one in twenty twenty seven. 372 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: Now I get there are questions and you say, well 373 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: the production is he really worth two first round picks 374 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: in my in my view, I say yes, because he's 375 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: the proven commodity and in Cincinnati, the draft picks are 376 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: on guaranteed. We've seen that, and that's true all the 377 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: way across the NFL. There are hits and there are 378 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: misses in the NFL draft, and for the Bengals there 379 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: have been more misses than hits in recent years. So yes, 380 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 2: the question that I got was would you have been 381 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 2: okay giving up two first round picks for Max Crosby? 382 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: The windows now, the super Bowl time is now. I 383 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: would have given up two first round picks for Max Crosby. 384 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: I know there are thoughts of others that wouldn't have. 385 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 2: But I applaud to Baltimore Ravens for identifying a big 386 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: weakness on the team and going in on a guy 387 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 2: like Max Crosby to help that defense. You think I 388 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 2: would think Austin a guy like Jesse Minner and how 389 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 2: he's going to utilize a Max Crosby is a big 390 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: thing as well. But let me just let's start with that. 391 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: The asking price Baltimore giving up two first round picks. 392 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: If the shoe was on the other foot and the 393 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: announcement was the Bengals land Max Crosby and they give 394 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 2: up two first round picks, would you have been on 395 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: board with that. 396 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: No, I would not have. Okay, I think that is 397 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: too steep of a price to pay. I think he 398 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 3: fits in. It makes a lot of sense for Baltimore. 399 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 3: They already have Kyle Hamilton, He's an All Pro. They 400 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 3: have good players up front. They need help, obviously in 401 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 3: a lot of different parts of their defense, but they 402 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 3: already have pieces that you can plug Max Crosby into. 403 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 3: We had this argument, or not necessarily argument. We had 404 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 3: this discussion about Trey Henderson where he had seventeen and 405 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 3: a half sacks and led the NFL as a runner 406 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 3: up a Defensive Player of the Year. The Bengals were 407 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 3: the thirty first ranked defense in the NFL. I think 408 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 3: you'd be doing the same thing with Max Crosby. Now, 409 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 3: would you improve your run defense, absolutely, Would you create 410 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: a problem for defense for offenses to work against every 411 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: single week? Absolutely you would. But when you have so 412 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 3: many other other holes to fill, I don't think that 413 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 3: Crosby for two first round picks, especially because of the 414 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 3: financial implications of his contract, would have made sense for 415 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 3: the Bengals. Do you know what if the Bengals were 416 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: further along in the build and that the defense felt 417 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 3: like maybe it was one or two pieces away, then yes, 418 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: but not when it's four or five pieces away. 419 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 2: I think that makes sense. I think I get that part. 420 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 2: But I also think that Crosby crosses another thing off 421 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: the box. And I saw Dan Orlovsky mentioned this over 422 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 2: the weekend as well. He brings an edge with his 423 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 2: game as well, a nastiness, and I think that's that's 424 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 2: how your defense wants to be to be handled. Orlofsky 425 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 2: said he brings a nasty edge to the Baltimore Ravens defense. 426 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: I don't think the Bengals have that. And as good 427 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 2: as Hendrickson was, I don't think he brought that. There 428 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: is a there's an aura in a in a way 429 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: in which Max Crosby carries himself that I think the 430 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: rest of a defense will feed off of and and 431 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 2: and look strictly, strictly from a Cincinnati Bengals point of view, 432 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 2: you are gonna see Miles Garrett, T. J. Watt and 433 00:24:54,720 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 2: Max Crosby now six times in the regular season. I 434 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: mean that was essentially I believe what Jamar Chase and 435 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: his reaction was on his Twitch account over the weekend. 436 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's difficult to have to game plan 437 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 3: around great players six times a year like. 438 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: The Bengals are going to have to do. They're talking about, 439 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 2: argably three of the top what five pass rushers in 440 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 2: the NFL. 441 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's not all that different. I mean 442 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 3: they've been doing it against Watton and Garrett for the 443 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 3: last couple of years, So here's two more against Baltimore. 444 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 3: And you know, part of the reason why Baltimore is 445 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 3: building their team the way they are is because they 446 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 3: have given up a ton of points to the Bengals 447 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: in recent years. And now, obviously the last game when 448 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 3: it was about two degrees, they gave up none and 449 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 3: Burrow played horribly. But games like the Thanksgiving game, Thursday 450 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 3: Night game, I guess all the Thursday night games where 451 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: the Bengals to go to Baltimore for the last couple 452 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: of years. But also I think back to when Steve Bescatti, 453 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 3: the owner of the Ravens, had that press conference and 454 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 3: he's like, I want to win a couple of Super 455 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 3: Bowls and get out of here. And he put a 456 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 3: lot of blame on his GM Eric DaCosta. It was like, listen, man, like, 457 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 3: he's very well aware of the things he has done 458 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: that has screwed up, and so instead of waiting around 459 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 3: and maybe you know, he's not going to be around 460 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 3: to use that first round pick next year, so I'm 461 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 3: going to trade it now and make my team better immediately. 462 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 3: He's working with urgency, and you would like to see 463 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 3: the Bengals work with urgency at that level as well. 464 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: It should be very similar. It should be that if 465 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: you don't produce this year, you're not going to be 466 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 3: here to make these decisions in the future. Duke Tobin's 467 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 3: job should be on the line, and so because of that, 468 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 3: he should be acting with urgency to try to win now. 469 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 3: I just don't know if that's going to be the 470 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 3: case with the Bengals. I hope it is. That's what 471 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 3: I think is going on in Baltimore. 472 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: Which is wild. I don't want to say this. 473 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 3: Max Crosby is twenty nine years old, he's he's had 474 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: a couple of knee surgeries. Now he is a guy 475 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 3: who has an edge. If you read that Mike' silver 476 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 3: piece in the Athletic last week last year, he very 477 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 3: clearly does not care about hitting the quarterback. He hits 478 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 3: the quarterback in practice and yells at the coaches if 479 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 3: they get mad at him. Number one, that's a bad teammate. 480 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 3: Number Two, I don't want Max Crosby touching Joe Burrow 481 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: in practice. And so, honest to God, the first thing 482 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: I thought of was, dang, that sucks two times a 483 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: year against Max Crosby. Hope he doesn't kill Lamar Jackson 484 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 3: in practice, because that's a possibly like he's not a 485 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 3: good teammate in that sense. 486 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so, but I think I think the point 487 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: you made us to Baltimore's to they're trying to win 488 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 2: and he's trying to get out of there. I think 489 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: that's the same mentality the Bengals should have. Absolutely, that's 490 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 2: how they should operate going forward. By the way, there's 491 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: the twenty fourth ranked defense in the National Football League 492 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: last year in Baltimore, but when it came to passing, 493 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: they gave up the second most passing yards per game. 494 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 2: Did the Baltimore Ravens tied with the Colts only in 495 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: front of the Dallas Cowboys. Max Crosby helps that. Max 496 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 2: Crosby helps that secondary not have to cover as long 497 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 2: on the back end, and it will help to a 498 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: run defense that I believe was right around number ten 499 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: in the NFL at one hundred and six point six 500 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: yards per game. 501 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: So would Max Crosby fix Geno Stone? Ooh, no, Okay, 502 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 3: there's your answer. 503 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: But they do have Kyle ham I think Kyle Hamilton 504 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: won't help that. 505 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 3: No, But I'm saying, like from a Bengals perspective, people 506 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: want Max Crosby. Does Max Crosby fix Geno Stone? No, 507 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 3: I think he would help him. Sure, I don't think 508 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: anyone could fix Geno Stone exactly. Does he fix Barrett 509 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 3: Carter's eyes because Barrett Carter be looking where he ain't 510 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 3: supposed to be. 511 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: Fix a lot of things? Huh? They got to fix 512 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: a lot. 513 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 3: Does he does he fix Chris Jenkins being completely useless 514 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 3: at the point of attack? Maybe he let's Chris Ris 515 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: Jenkins didn't do much when Trey was getting double deemed. No, Oka, 516 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: it is a I I would have welcomed again like 517 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 3: I did not all this the off seasons over because 518 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: they didn't get Crosby, but I would have I would 519 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 3: have said, Okay, that's a move that next year is 520 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 3: the ultimate importance for this franchise. And regardless if it's 521 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 3: Crosby or someone else, to your point about why the 522 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: Ravens did it, it's the same logic that I think 523 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 3: the Bengal should be uber aggressive going forward. To be clear, 524 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: I would have been thrilled if Max Crosby was a Bengal. 525 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 3: I just look at that situation in Baltimore and think, yeah, 526 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 3: that makes more sense than it does here because there 527 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 3: are still a lot of holes to fill, and even 528 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 3: with a great pass rusher, for the last several years, 529 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: the Bengals defense has stunk. 530 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: Well said, well, put, let's take a break your reactions 531 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty. We've also 532 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: got to dive into the latest mock draft Monday. That'll 533 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: happen next on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. It's 534 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: Tiger the Deck. 535 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: You're listening to Tony Pike since e three sixty on 536 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty. 537 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,479 Speaker 2: Welcome back, roll along our number one since E three sixty, 538 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: ESBN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks to our friends 539 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 2: at Skyline Chili. Anytime you're feeling good and hungry, it's 540 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: always Skyline time. We are certainly not going to sit 541 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: on our hands. They've done it for thirty nine minutes 542 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: so far. You know what's going on. Been sitting on 543 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: the hands for thirty nine minutes. Biggest off season, ready 544 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: to spend. Let's start spending some of the cash, Bengals. 545 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: Come on, not gonna sit on our hands here we 546 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: are waiting. While we wait, let's grab a phone call. 547 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 2: Mark is calling in. What's up? Mark? 548 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 549 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: Kind of going Tony Pike, what's up? 550 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, let me ask a Geno Stone question. Okay, 551 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 4: because I'm hoping the Bengals don't make this mistake again. 552 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 4: Like whatever Baltimore was asking him to do in their defense, 553 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 4: he couldn't do in the Bengals defense. I mean, would 554 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 4: it be safe to say that? 555 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? 556 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: And I think if you if you go back and 557 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: really dive into what he did for Baltimore, I think 558 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: there's still a reason in which why Baltimore was willing 559 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: to let him go and not sign him back or 560 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: bring him back. I think some of his interceptions were 561 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,479 Speaker 2: a little advantageous and what he was able to do so, 562 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: but yeah, I would. I would say that his production 563 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: here did not match what he was able to do 564 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 2: in Baltimore. 565 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm hoping that they draft a safety, get 566 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 4: a younger guy in and develop him for how they 567 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 4: want a safety to play inside their defense. And I 568 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 4: think they need to go back to the formula they had, 569 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 4: you know, like when they brought a Woozy A in, 570 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 4: then they bought DJ Reeder in. They didn't bring me 571 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 4: in another linebacker. I would like to see him bring 572 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 4: in another linebacker because to me, on defense, and I'm 573 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 4: just talking about defense, like a Woozy A covered up 574 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 4: Eli Apple and then Jesse Bates covered up bon Bell, 575 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 4: So I think you need when you got positions like 576 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 4: that on defense, and then on a linebacker, I think 577 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 4: I think Logan Wilson probably covered up Jamaine Pratt. Then 578 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 4: you had to take Jamain Pratt off the field on 579 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 4: third downs. But when you got positions where it's two 580 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 4: guys playing, you need one guy to cover up the 581 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 4: other guy. So I would like to see him maybe 582 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 4: sign a linebacker. If it's a good solid cornerback out there, 583 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 4: I would like to see him make that move too. 584 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 4: And this draft of safety and try to develop them 585 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 4: into the next Jesse Bates because these free agents they've 586 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 4: been bringing in and that position haven't worked. Yeah, So 587 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,479 Speaker 4: I was like, like last year they could have got 588 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 4: Vay of your watch and we wouldn't even have to 589 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 4: be having this conversation this year about safety because I 590 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 4: think he would have filled that That boy, you know, 591 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 4: he played for the coordinator in college. So we'll see 592 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 4: what happens. But that was just my take on and 593 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 4: I'll get off and listen to the rest of the show. 594 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 2: Mark, I appreciate the phone call man. Thank you. We'll 595 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: get back to the phone lines here on our next 596 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: break to finish up hour one uh one. Two things 597 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 2: here Austin one. We got more NFL news coming down. 598 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 2: Here we go, There we go. One of the big 599 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 2: and Rusher targets. Here we Go is off the board. 600 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: We're not sitting on the hands Jalen phil All love 601 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 2: him and Rusher. 602 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 3: Formerly of the Miami Dolphins last year the Philadelphia Eagles. 603 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 3: He has agreed to a four year, one hundred and 604 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 3: twenty million dollar deal with eighty million dollars in guarantees 605 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 3: with the Carolina Panthers. What do we come on, Jalen 606 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 3: Phillips off the board. 607 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: Oh Man, I wouldn't have minded Jalen Phillips either. 608 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 3: Not the only Jalen to sign. Chiefs Former cornerback Jalen 609 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 3: Watson has signed with the Los Angeles Rams on a 610 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 3: three year, fifty one million dollar deal. So the Rams 611 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 3: continue to spend big on the cornerback position. They do 612 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 3: so with Jalen Watson, former teammate of Trent McDuffie, who 613 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 3: they just signed Trent mcduffee for the trade. Now in 614 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 3: the AFC North, Okay, the Steelers have been looking for 615 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 3: a wide receiver. 616 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: Well they got one. 617 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 3: The Indianapolis Colts are trading wide receiver Michael Pittman June 618 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 3: year to the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Colts obviously just signed 619 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 3: Alec Pierce to a huge deal. The Colts have a 620 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 3: lot of cap stuff they got to take care of. 621 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 3: Between now and four o'clock, Michael Pittman Junior, the son 622 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 3: of former NFL running back Antonio Pittman, goes to the 623 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers. 624 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh gets a receiver. Hmm, okay, Pittsburgh will pair him 625 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 2: up with DK metcalf I did see something as well, 626 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 2: or for a friend of the show, sam Monson. 627 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 3: You called him a former friend. Well, he was a 628 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 3: he was a weekly friend. Yeah, but we haven't we 629 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 3: haven't got to talk to him a friend. He mentioned 630 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 3: the McDuffie deal. The Rams had a clear issue. It 631 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 3: was the secondary and as sam Monson tweeted out, the 632 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 3: Rams now have basically no holes on the roster draft 633 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 3: capital to play with. In a history of trading up 634 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 3: for players in the last couple of drafts, Rams are 635 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 3: in a really good spot going into the draft. 636 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 637 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 3: I mean, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they 638 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 3: try to move up a little from thirteen. I mean, 639 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 3: they're a team that I think is in play to 640 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 3: like jump right ahead of the Bengals, right ahead of 641 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 3: the Chiefs. Yeah, to try to get that one guy 642 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 3: that they really want. 643 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of the Bengals and Chiefs, let's do this. 644 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 2: We'll make it a quicker mock draft today, Mock Draft Monday. 645 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 2: This Austin. There we're gone. Sorry it was me that 646 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 2: was late. There's in. 647 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 1: It's time for mock Draft Monday on Cincy three sixty. 648 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 2: All right, So here's what we have. This is Pro 649 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: Football Focus, their latest mock draft. And this was after 650 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 2: obviously the Crosby News, It's also after the Kansas City 651 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: Chiefs news. And for the Bengals, it brings in a 652 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 2: question that I want to ask you here in just 653 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 2: a moment Pro Football Focus. They're top ten. Fernando Mendoza, 654 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 2: Rvel Reese to the Jets at too, Francis, I forget 655 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 2: it every week, Scott Key, Yes, Francis, Scott Key to 656 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: the O. The Cardinals Maui Noah, Malli Noah. The Tennessee 657 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 2: Titans take David Bailey, the edge rusher from Texas Tech. 658 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: The Giants get Sonny Styles. The Cleveland Brown select wide 659 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 2: receiver Carnell Tate. Ruben Bain Junior goes to the Washington Commanders. 660 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 2: The Saints grab Jeremiah Love, and the Chiefs, because they 661 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 2: now have a running back off the board, they go 662 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 2: get Austin McKay lemon, the wide receiver from USC. Sure, 663 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey is back. You don't know what's going on 664 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 2: with Rashie Rice. They now have a true running back 665 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 2: number one in Kenneth Walker. They go get McKay lemon, 666 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 2: and the Bengals they get safety Caleb Downs. Okay, sign 667 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 2: me up. It says the Bengals haven't had a true 668 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 2: star safety since they led Jesse Bates walk in twenty 669 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 2: twenty three. In fact, Cincinnati safeties have combined for the 670 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 2: lowest PFF overall grade the past three years. Downs would 671 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 2: change the teams to rejectorate that position after earning an 672 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 2: elite ninety three point six PFF overall great for his 673 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 2: college career. Now my question to you, and this is 674 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 2: what I've heard as we get into the legal tampering period, here, 675 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 2: are you okay? If the Bengals were to go get 676 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: a Brian Cook and still draft Caleb Downs with so 677 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 2: many other holes at different areas of the roster, or 678 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 2: if they got a safety before the draft, does that 679 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 2: take them out on Caleb Downs? It shouldn't. 680 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 3: You should never be afraid to take the best available player, 681 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 3: and the great chance that at number ten, Caleb Downs 682 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 3: will be the best available player. I'm a little less 683 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 3: inclined to do that. If there's still a hole at 684 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 3: the defensive end position, at the edge spot, and there's 685 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 3: still good edges available at number ten, I maybe be 686 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 3: a little bit less inclined to go and get that safety. 687 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 3: But I don't know how you could you could pass 688 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 3: up on it, even if you go and sign somebody. 689 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 2: That's that was my thought is, yeah, it'd be nice. 690 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 2: But now imagine the luxury on the back end if 691 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 2: you've got a Caleb Downs and a Brian Cook. I 692 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 2: don't think you should. I guess what I'm fitting. I 693 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 2: don't think what happens between now and the draft should 694 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 2: change their draft strategy. If Caleb Downs is still there 695 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 2: at ten, go get Caleb Downs. Now, I get like. 696 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 3: Problems should be that the strategy is always to take 697 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 3: the best player available. 698 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 2: Sure, and I would get to like, well, if it's 699 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,919 Speaker 2: Caleb Downs and Reuben Bain and you signed Brian Cook, 700 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,919 Speaker 2: then you go get yes, I'm one hundred percent there. 701 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 3: What should happen is whatever happens between now and then 702 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 3: only reinforces that strategy correct is what it should be correct. 703 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 2: That's what I hope would be happening. They do a 704 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 2: three round mock draft here Austin, and in the second 705 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 2: round they have the Bengals going and getting edge rusher 706 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 2: Zion Young from Missouri, so that would address I've seen 707 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 2: a couple of those. And then they go back to 708 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 2: back at Missouri in the third round and get Josiah Trotter, 709 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 2: the linebacker from Missouri. So uh, the latest mock draft 710 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 2: Monday this week, coming courtesy of Pro Football Focus. We'll 711 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 2: finish up the hour with your phone calls. 712 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 3: Next following to have a couple more big free agent 713 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 3: signings to tell you about, including another one in the 714 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 3: AFC North. 715 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 2: Here we go, that's next ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports. 716 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: He continues now on ESPN fifteen thirty. 717 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 2: Welcome back sincey three to sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 718 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 2: Sports Station. Are we off our hands yet, Austin? You 719 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 2: said we have more signings happening. Are the Bengals off 720 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 2: their hands? We are certainly not going to sit on 721 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:52,280 Speaker 2: our hands. 722 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 3: Great, what have they done so far? They're still sitting 723 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 3: on their hands. Okay, fifty three minutes into the legal 724 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 3: tampering period. But other teams in the AFC North are 725 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,959 Speaker 3: making moves. We'll get to that in a minute. Let's 726 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 3: start with the biggest fish A lot of people thought 727 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 3: on the free agent market, Packer quarterback Malik Willis. He's 728 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 3: going to South Beach. Okay, he's going to Miami to 729 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 3: be the new head coach or the new quarterback of 730 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 3: the Dolphins who's head coach was with him in Green Bay, 731 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 3: Jeff Hafley. Three years, sixty seven and a half million 732 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 3: dollars for Malik Willis. That's forty five million, fully guaranteed. 733 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 3: His agent is, you know, close with the Bengals, David Mulligan. Meanwhile, 734 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens have re upped their best offensive lineman, 735 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 3: John Simpson three year, thirty million dollar deal. The guard 736 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 3: returns to Baltimore to be their starting guard. Meanwhile, they're 737 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 3: losing a tight end. Former Ravens tight end Isaiah Likely 738 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 3: is leaving Baltimore and reuniting with John Harball in New York. 739 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 3: The Giants have agreed to a three year deal with 740 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 3: former Ravens tight end Isaiah Likely. Meanwhile, Bengals are in 741 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 3: the market for a defensive tackle. Sure well, the Bears 742 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 3: got one defensive tackle, Neville Gallimore has signed to a 743 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 3: two year, twelve million dollar deal with the Chicago Bears. 744 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 3: Galimore recently with the Indianapolis Colts. By the way, that 745 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 3: Colts trade to the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Steelers are giving 746 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 3: Michael Pittman Junior a new three year, fifty nine million 747 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 3: dollar deal to be the guy in Pittsburgh. The cap 748 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 3: savings that the Colts had, they were they had like 749 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in cap space at 750 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 3: the start of the day. That all has to be 751 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 3: cleaned up by four o'clock on Wednesday. That trade with 752 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 3: Michael Pittman freed up twenty five million dollars in cap space. Obviously, 753 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 3: the big time deal for Alec Pierce as well. So 754 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 3: a lot going on, all right, We'll keep you up 755 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 3: the speed as we go one hour in hour' in, 756 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 3: which means we'll get a quick break and then your 757 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 3: phone calls Greg, Jay and more. You'll kick off our 758 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 3: number two next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. 759 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: WCKY, Cincinnati. 760 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 3: Make us the number one preset on your car radio 761 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 3: and on the free, new and improved iHeartRadio app. 762 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,280 Speaker 2: Free never sounded so good. ESPN fifteen thirty