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Speaker 1: that we are following right now a shocking and I

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Speaker 1: mean truly federal, shocking federal lawsuit alleging teachers and coaches

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Speaker 1: grooming teenage girls at a high school in Wisconsin. Attorney

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Speaker 1: Larry Disparty at a news conference in Milwaukee this morning, as.

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Speaker 2: Women are coming forward now not only to see justice

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Speaker 2: for the Harmdas caused to them, but also to expose

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Speaker 2: the institutional failures that allowed the abuse to continue and

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Speaker 2: to demand meaningful change.

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Speaker 1: All the truly stunning details coming up in just a second.

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Speaker 1: President Trump on the road again today. He is scheduled

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Speaker 1: to speak in Kentucky after touring a scientific facility in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: The Daily Trump Day coming up at four o'clock then

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Speaker 1: at four fifteen. Why is Governor Evers so adamant about

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Speaker 1: with any sort of federal investigation into potential voter irregularities?

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Speaker 1: And why is he making bizarre claims like the FBI

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Speaker 1: is a narrative being pushed by the Milwaukee Journal Center

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Speaker 1: for the past two days. It is completely and totally false.

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Speaker 1: We will debunk it. Coming up at four fifteen, and

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Speaker 1: it's a major anniversary here in Wisconsin fifteen years to

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Speaker 1: the day since Act ten passed. It saved taxpayers more

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Speaker 1: to repeal it all. The latest done that coming up

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Speaker 1: right after the five o'clock news.

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Speaker 2: Federal lawsuit federal civil rights lawsuit on behalf of three

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Speaker 2: brave young women who is students of Ocanto Falls High

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Speaker 2: School were groomed and sexually abused by teachers and coaches.

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Speaker 1: Three young women stepping forward saying that they were all abused,

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Speaker 1: and not only that that the Oconto Falls School District

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Speaker 1: didn't just turn a blind eye, but also covered it up.

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Speaker 1: Attorney Cass Casper is the lead attorney on this case.

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Speaker 1: With the disparity law.

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Speaker 3: These three brave young women have come forward with these

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Speaker 3: want to stop the culture where sex abusers, groomers other

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Speaker 3: school staff who think it's okay to engage in sexualized

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Speaker 1: And in fact, each one of the girls alleges that

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Speaker 3: These three women are from Oconto Falls, Wisconsin. All three

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Speaker 1: Now, while all three of the girls are in fact

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Speaker 1: The theory of plaintiff's case against the Board of Oconto

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Speaker 1: dangerously criminal. They went on rides together. Now, why would

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Speaker 1: on the Dan o'donald Show. Welcome back to it. A

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Speaker 1: new lawsuit filed this morning in the Eastern District of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: It is a federal civil rights suit brought on behalf

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Speaker 1: of three different young women, all of whom alleged that

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Speaker 1: they were groomed and sexually abused by either a teacher

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Speaker 1: or a volleyball coach at Oconto Falls High School. During

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Speaker 1: the research and investigation into presenting and bringing this lawsuit,

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Speaker 1: attorneys found multiple other potential victims and multiple other alleged perpetrators,

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Speaker 1: making this potentially the single biggest teacher sexual abuse case

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Speaker 1: in the history of Wisconsin. And this is putting the

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Speaker 1: spotlight right back on the Department of Public Instruction. You

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Speaker 1: this series entitled Dismissed Educator, Sexual Misconduct and Grooming in Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: which revealed that the Department of Public Instruction or DPI,

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Speaker 1: investigated at least two hundred four cases of sexual misconduct

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Speaker 1: or grooming behaviors involving teachers, teachers, aids, subs, school administrators

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Speaker 1: from twenty eight eighteen to twenty twenty three. They just

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Speaker 1: picked a five year period that interestingly is likely to

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Speaker 1: be after when the alleged grooming in Oconto Falls took place. Now,

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Speaker 1: those cases represented at least forty four percent of the

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Speaker 1: more than four hundred and fifty teacher license investigations that

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Speaker 1: DPI handled during that time, and what the Captimes investigation

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Speaker 1: found was that these probes into teacher misconduct often ended

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Speaker 1: in order to potentially get the police involved. In fact,

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Speaker 1: in many instances, teachers just resigned from districts and kept

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Speaker 1: their licenses after DPI cited insufficient evidence such as inconsistent

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Speaker 1: witness statements. Now, this sparked a public outcry, and it

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Speaker 1: led to immediate state legislative hearings for DPI State Superintendent

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Speaker 1: doctor Jill Underley. Now you might remember Underly in a

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Speaker 5: Hist It's been deeply disappointing to see attempts to turn

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Speaker 5: Our kids deserve better than that with sounds and families deserve.

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Speaker 6: Better than that.

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Speaker 5: But we won't be distracted or deterred, and our focus

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Speaker 5: playing politics.

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Speaker 1: Were these girls who filed the lawsuit today playing politics,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Underley? Were any of the other alleged victims who

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Speaker 1: were molested or groomed from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: and the teachers got off scott free by simply surrendering

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Speaker 1: their licenses so they wouldn't face a deeper investigation. Were

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Speaker 1: they playing politics? Thank heavens, someone finally finally stepped in

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Speaker 1: to do something and to close a bit of a

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Speaker 1: loophole in state law. Up until just about a week

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Speaker 1: and a half ago, grooming was not a crime under

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin's statutes. State Representative Amanda Edwsky, a very very good

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Speaker 1: I believe unanimously passed the state Senate. I say overwhelmingly

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Speaker 1: because you actually had the socialist caucus in the Wisconsin Assembly,

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Speaker 1: including Francesco Hong, who is currently the leading candidate for

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Speaker 1: child grooming. Had this law been in effect in twenty

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Speaker 1: thirteen or in twenty eighteen, the three high school girls

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Speaker 1: who were clearly being groomed by either a tech ed

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Speaker 1: legal recourse. Now, all three are alleging that they were

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Speaker 1: actually sexually assaulted already criminal behavior. But let's say there

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Speaker 1: child grooming. Up until about a week ago, there would

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Speaker 1: not have been any legal recourse. Sure, there could have

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Speaker 1: Make no mistake, what the girls, what the young women

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Speaker 1: I believe it is a criminal cover up by people

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Speaker 1: another thing that is deeply disturbing. In the third case,

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Speaker 1: alleged by the third plaintiff, Grace, the one who had

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Speaker 1: the latest sexual abuse account with this assistant volleyball coach,

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Speaker 1: says she went to a school resource officer. Now, a

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Speaker 1: of just okay, okay, we'll talk to the teacher, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk to the sub we'll talk to the volleyball coach,

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Speaker 1: and we'll make sure that this doesn't happen again. This

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Speaker 1: is why there was a civil rights suit filed against

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Speaker 1: Oconto Falls today, because this is a massive systemic failure,

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Speaker 1: and I fear that this is not limited to a random,

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying there is a grooming scandal in every

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Speaker 1: in this state where there are inappropriate relationships between teachers

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Speaker 1: and coaches and students. And that is why ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: I made such a point to outline exactly and read

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Speaker 1: exactly what it was that's being alleged here, so you

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Speaker 1: will have some better knowledge of some of these grooming behaviors,

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Speaker 1: some of the techniques used by predatory adults to gain

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Speaker 1: the trust and to isolate students so that they're more

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Speaker 1: vulnerable for child sexual abuse. You are listening to the

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Speaker 1: Dan O'Donnell show. We'll be back in just a couple

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Speaker 1: of minutes. It's a tour de force of truth, and

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Speaker 1: we'll be right back to it. His mouthpieces over at

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Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Journal Centinel have been fear mongering, panic mongering, really,

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Speaker 1: with a decidedly partisan take on an FBI's potential investigation

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Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty election here in Wisconsin. Even though

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Speaker 1: nobody has even suggested that the FBI would ever look

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Speaker 1: at ballots from twenty twenty here in Wisconsin. The Journal

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Speaker 1: Sentinel has run now two days worth of stories, and

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Speaker 1: Governor Evers has put out a press release and tweeted

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Speaker 1: that the federal government will be able to see who

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin unique from say, other states where there are investigations

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Speaker 1: like in Arizona. It is a lie. It is a

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Speaker 1: lie that either Evers and the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel are

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Speaker 1: too stupid and legally inept to realize is a lie

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Speaker 1: or what I am very strongly suspecting they know it's

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Speaker 1: a lie, but they are going with it anyway. We

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Speaker 1: Dan O'Donnell show coming up in just a second. First, though,

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Speaker 1: it is time for your Daily Trump Day.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna win so much you may even get tired

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Speaker 1: Trump just keeps winning. It is a win for the administration.

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Speaker 3: It's also a big win for the United States.

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Speaker 1: We have to keep winning.

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Speaker 2: We have to win more.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna win more. The president right now holding a

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Speaker 1: big rally in hebron Kentucky ahead of this fall's midterms

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Speaker 1: to tout his economic successes. Earlier today, he toured the Thermo

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Speaker 1: Fisher scientific facility in nearby Cincinnati and gave an update

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Speaker 6: to put it mildly, way ahead of schedule. We've knocked

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Speaker 6: out their navy, their military and all forms. We've knocked

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Speaker 6: at just about everything there is, including their leadership twice.

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Speaker 6: We knocked out twice their leadership. And now they have

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Speaker 6: a new group coming up. Let's see what happens to them.

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Speaker 6: But forty seven bad years we suffered with them, not

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Speaker 6: so I had to take an excursion. But it's doing well.

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Speaker 6: The market's holding up well. I figured it would be

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Speaker 6: a pretty short while. Prices are coming down very substantially.

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Speaker 6: Oil will be coming down. It's a it's just a

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Speaker 6: matter of war that happens very You could almost predict it.

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Speaker 1: Fox News reporter Peter Doucy noted that the President used

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Speaker 1: the word excursion when talking about what's going on in

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Speaker 1: Iran and not the word war, and he asked whether

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Speaker 2: You just said it is a little excursion, and you

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Speaker 7: So which one is, Well, it's both.

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Speaker 6: It's both. It's an excursion that will keep us out

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Speaker 6: of a war, and the war is going to be

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Speaker 6: I mean for them, it's a war for us. It's

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Speaker 6: could have to be easier than we thought. But think

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Speaker 6: of it. They had thousands of missiles, seven eight thousand missiles.

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Speaker 6: We got many of them before they got to lunch.

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Speaker 6: They have drones all over the place. We got many.

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Speaker 6: Now we're knocking out the drone plants. As you know,

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Speaker 6: we're going fast. They started talking about mind so we

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Speaker 6: hit twenty eight mind shifts as of this moment, twenty

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Speaker 6: eight like using the same weapon, the exact same weapon

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Speaker 6: that we use against the drug dealers.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, here at home, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reporting

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Speaker 1: today consumer Price Index rose just zero point three percent

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Speaker 1: in February on a seasonally adjusted basis, annual inflation rate

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Speaker 1: unchanged at two point four percent. Now, core CPI, which

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Speaker 1: and not coincidentally, that was the last month where we

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Speaker 1: stimulus went into effect. How So, Oversight Committee Chairman James

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Speaker 1: Comer says, Jeffrey Epstein's accountant testified today behind closed doors

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Speaker 1: that he never witnessed a transaction between President Trump and Epstein.

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Speaker 1: This is now the fifth witness to testify under oath

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Speaker 1: that Trump did absolutely nothing wrong as it pertains to

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Speaker 1: For two straight days now, Governor Evers and the Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: that nobody is actually proposing for the FBI to gain

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Speaker 1: access to ballots that were cast in twenty twenty in

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin's presidential election. Now, those ballots have not been destroyed

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Speaker 1: of sitting there, absentee ballots. And what the Journal Sentinel

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Speaker 1: that there is a Wisconsin law that would actually identify you,

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Speaker 1: as in you John Smith listening to me right now,

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Speaker 1: as having cast a ballot for say, Donald Trump. There

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Speaker 1: is all sorts of panic again, even though the FBI

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Speaker 1: has given no indication that it would ever look into

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Speaker 1: any of Wisconsin's ballots. In Milwaukee, these would be the

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Speaker 1: ballots that are at issue here, and this is a

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Speaker 1: direct result of what's been going on in Maricopa County

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Speaker 1: really for the last six years, the investigations and audits

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Speaker 1: into what happened in Arizona. Wisconsin, of course, is the

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Speaker 1: perennial swing state, so there's always concern about what it

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Speaker 1: is that goes on here because we have an outsize

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Speaker 1: impact here in Wisconsin on picking the president every single

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Speaker 1: four year cycle. But nobody is suggesting that the FBI

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Speaker 1: would ever go into Milwaukee, ever open up the ballot boxes,

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Speaker 1: ever sees the ballots, or ever investigate. In other words,

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Speaker 1: this is panic mongering without any discernible reason to This

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Speaker 1: reminds me of about a month month and a half

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Speaker 1: ago when you had that ridiculous uh oh. Was she

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Speaker 1: an obgyn slash liberal talk radio host who without any

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Speaker 1: evidence posted on x there are a hundred rooms being

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Speaker 1: booked at the downtown Milwaukee Hilton for ICE agents to

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Speaker 1: come in. They're gonna do a big ICE surge in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: I checked with every source. I had no there was

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Speaker 1: no ICE surge coming. Of course, no ICE surge ever happened.

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Speaker 1: There were never any ICE agents who booked any hotel rooms,

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Speaker 1: the DHS, Department of Homeland Security never happened. It was

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Speaker 1: panic mongering. And now Molly Becker, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel,

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Speaker 1: and Governor Evers and his comms team are pushing the

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Speaker 1: exact same panic about Milwaukee's ballance. They claim that there

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Speaker 1: is a law on the books in Wisconsin which basically

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Speaker 1: would allow the fence to see who it is that

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Speaker 1: you vote for. Well, the actual law says nothing of

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Speaker 1: the sort. It is Wisconsin Statute seven point five two.

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Speaker 1: The Board of Absentee Ballot Canvassers shall mark the poll

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Speaker 1: list number of each elector who casts an absentee ballot

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Speaker 1: on the back of the elector's ballot. Now what this

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Speaker 1: does It allows and actually requires poll workers while they're

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Speaker 1: processing absentee ballots to assign numbers start at one, and

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Speaker 1: you just keep going to absentee voters that are accepted,

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Speaker 1: and then they write the number on the back of

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Speaker 1: the physical ballot, so your name corresponds to a number.

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Speaker 1: Let's say your ballot just happens to be it's the

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Speaker 1: Dan O'Donnell ballot just happens to be the first one

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Speaker 1: picked that would get number one. Let's say the second

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Speaker 1: ballot that's counted and put into the box, put into

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Speaker 1: the tabulat or whatever is the number for it's Eric

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Speaker 1: Paulson's ballot. So Eric Paulson would be assigned number two,

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Speaker 1: and so on and so on and so on. They

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Speaker 1: then record that number next to the voter's name on

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Speaker 1: a duplicate poll list. Now, the reason for this is

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Speaker 1: it helped locate and cancel out a specific absentee ballot

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Speaker 1: if the voter later tried to spoil it. Now, what

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Speaker 1: spoiling was was if you would go and then say

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Speaker 1: I don't want my mail in ballot to count, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to vote in person. Now the court said, okay,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to allow ballot spoiling. You got the

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Speaker 1: ballot in done boom. So this idea of putting the

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Speaker 1: number next to the name, it's essentially obsolete. But here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. The only thing that the FBI would get

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Speaker 1: if again they were ever actually going to go in Milwaukee,

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Speaker 1: there's no indication that they are. The only the thing

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Speaker 1: they would get is the ballot. Only the number appears

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Speaker 1: on the ballot. The ballot is never actually unfolded or

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Speaker 1: examined by workers before it's tabulated, so nobody at any

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Speaker 1: point ever knows who it is that is casting a vote.

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Speaker 1: So in a subpoena, let's say the FBI wants to

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Speaker 1: get ballot images, there's no voter name, there's no direct

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Speaker 1: identifier that would connect Dan O'Donnell to ballot number one.

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Speaker 1: So what tabulators do is they scan the ballots and

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Speaker 1: they create a digital image for recordkeeping or a recount.

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Speaker 1: The poll list number is actually handwritten on the back

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Speaker 1: of the physical ballot. The images that the FEDS would

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Speaker 1: get usually only show the front of the ballot. Why

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Speaker 1: because most ballots only have one side that's actually printed on. Now,

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Speaker 1: even if the back image is included, let's say there's

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of stuff. Sometimes there's voting, you have

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Speaker 1: to fill out the bubbles on the back of the

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Speaker 1: ballot as well as the front of the ballot. It's

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Speaker 1: just a number. There's no name attached to it whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: The poll list, which includes the names and the numbers,

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Speaker 1: that's separate, that's not attached to the ballot at all.

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Speaker 1: And guess what. The poll lists are public records. They

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Speaker 1: show who voted. That's already a public that's public knowledge.

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Speaker 1: If you want a list of Dan O'Donnell voting in

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Speaker 1: let's say the Spring primary, which I didn't you know,

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Speaker 1: I skipped it, trick question. There was no Spring primary

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Speaker 1: where I live. I vote in every election. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I can think of just one in the last probably decade,

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Speaker 1: Spring primary for all primary everything. I vote in everything,

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Speaker 1: And you can see that it's public record. You can

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Speaker 1: actually see dan O'donnald voting where Daniel would what the

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Speaker 1: polling place was. You can't see who I voted for,

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Speaker 1: but you can see that I did vote. If let's

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Speaker 1: say you wanted to match that poll list showing Dan

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Speaker 1: O'donnald ballot number one, Eric Paulson ballot number two. Let's

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Speaker 1: say Jason Gotch ballot number three, Ben Yaut ballot number four,

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Speaker 1: Greg John ballot number five, Dave Michael's ballot number six.

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Speaker 1: You would actually have to get access to both all

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Speaker 1: of the ballots, and you would have to have images

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Speaker 1: that show both side of the ballot with the handwritten

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00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: number as well as the filled in ballot, and then

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Speaker 1: you would have to manually cross reference every single numbered

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Speaker 1: ballot to the poll list. That's potentially hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 1: of records. Now, the ballots are process totally anonymously. They're

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Speaker 1: thoroughly mixed. After they're numbered, they go into a ballot box,

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Speaker 1: they're mixed up, they're tabulated by a machine without any

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Speaker 1: human review of the marks on them, and then they're

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Speaker 1: stored while sealed up. There is no evidence whatsoever that

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Speaker 1: this has ever enabled revealing votes in practice. Now, the

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Speaker 1: Journal Sentinel says, okay, if you get both the poll

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Speaker 1: list and you get the ballot images, which might or

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Speaker 1: might not have the corresponding numbers to them, and you

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Speaker 1: want to spend years and years and years cross referencing those,

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Speaker 1: theoretically you could see who voted for who. But the

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Speaker 1: story immediately jumps to and I quote, federal authorities will

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Speaker 1: be able to figure out how tens of thousands of

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Speaker 1: residents vote without ever explaining that this for all intensive

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Speaker 1: purposes is an impossibility. This is actually kind of ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: How badly do these people not want to see any

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Speaker 1: sort of oversight, any sort of investigation into any sort

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Speaker 1: of election irregularity that they're actually making up a that

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Speaker 1: the Feds are closing in on Milwaukee and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: see who you voted for, and I don't know they're

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Speaker 1: gonna put you in some sort of re education cap

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Speaker 1: if they find out you voted for Biden in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: There's no indication that's going to happen. And even if

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Speaker 1: it did, which again it is not. Even if it did,

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Speaker 1: there's no practical way that the Feds would ever actually

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Speaker 1: be able to see who it is you vote for.

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Speaker 1: But this is well in line with what Governor Evers

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Speaker 1: has been doing for months now, and that's stonewalling an

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Speaker 1: investigation into not who it is you voted for, but

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Speaker 1: rather the voter rolls themselves again a public record again,

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Speaker 1: something that should be and legally must be turned over

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Speaker 1: to the federal government, but Ebers and the Wisconsin Elections

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Speaker 1: Commission are refusing to do so again because they don't

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Speaker 1: want any oversight or investigation. We'll dive into that in

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Speaker 1: just three minutes here on the Dan o'donald Show. Welcome

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00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 1: back to the Dan o'donald Show. It is conservative thought,

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Speaker 1: not just talk. We go deeper, much deeper on the

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Speaker 1: issues that matter to you. Governor Evers and the Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: Elections Commission are still fighting to avoid turning over voter

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Speaker 1: role data to the federal government. The Trump administration's Department

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Speaker 1: of Justice in early December sent WEK a confidential memorandum

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Speaker 1: of understanding demanding full unredacted voter rules, names, addresses, dates

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Speaker 1: of birth, driver's license numbers, and partial social security numbers.

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Speaker 1: Usually it's the last four for all three point seven

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Speaker 1: million active registered voters in Wisconsin. This was the second

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Speaker 1: request that the DOJ made in twenty twenty five. The

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Speaker 1: DOJ says this is an investigation to cross check against

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Speaker 1: federal databases to verify that people who are on Wisconsin's

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Speaker 1: voter roles are actually US citizens. They also want to

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Speaker 1: detect whether there are any non citizens on the roles

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Speaker 1: ensure compliance with JAVA, the Help America Vote Act VRA,

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Speaker 1: the National Voter Registration Act, also known as Motor Voter.

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Speaker 1: In other words, the FEDS are looking into every state

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Speaker 1: or at least as many states as they can to

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Speaker 1: try to find out if there are people who are

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Speaker 1: illegally registered to vote. It is not lawful for non

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Speaker 1: citizens to vote in federal elections. This is a crime,

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Speaker 1: and actually a rather serious one. Tony Evers and Whack

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Speaker 1: have fought tooth and nail for four months now to

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Speaker 1: try to keep the voter roles a secret. This is

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Speaker 1: in direct violation of federal law. The Department of Justice

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Speaker 1: is citing Title three of the Civil Rights Act, which

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Speaker 1: requires states to retain and preserve quote all records and

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Speaker 1: papers relating to any application, registration, payment of poll tax,

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Speaker 1: or other act requisite to voting in a federal election.

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Speaker 1: In other words, a voter role. You obviously don't have

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Speaker 1: to pay a poll tax. That's insanely illegal, But that's

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Speaker 1: sort of what the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty

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Speaker 1: was aiming to stop. If there was any sort of

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Speaker 1: record that one of the Democrat controlled states in the

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00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: Deep South was trying to keep black people from voting,

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Speaker 1: which they totally did by enacting any sort of pull tax,

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Speaker 1: the Feds wanted to know about it, and the states

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Speaker 1: were thus required to preserve all documentation of it well

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Speaker 1: This also extends to voter role data, application and registration

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Speaker 1: requisite to voting in a federal election. States have to

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Speaker 1: keep this record for twenty two months. The Attorney General,

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Speaker 1: under the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty is also

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Speaker 1: authorized to demand in writing quote the records and papers

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Speaker 1: described in the previous statute upon a simple statement of

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Speaker 1: the basis and purpose for the request. So all the

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Speaker 1: DOJ has to do, All Attorney General Pambondi has to

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Speaker 1: do is say, all right, here's the basis for our

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Speaker 1: request of your voter roles. We want to make sure

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Speaker 1: that there are no non citizens on the rules, that

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Speaker 1: everybody who's registered to vote is actually legally allowed to vote.

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Speaker 1: That is a valid per that is a valid investigation. Rather,

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00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: obviously a full statewide voter registration list qualifies as a

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Speaker 1: record and paper. JAVA Help America Vote Act requires states

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Speaker 1: to maintain a computerized list, a digital list that includes

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Speaker 1: name data, birth address, driver's license number, last four digits

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Speaker 1: at the social Security number. What WEK is claiming, and

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Speaker 1: it should be noted that WEK voted five to one

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Speaker 1: to obstruct the federal government, violating both state and federal law,

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Speaker 1: and the one member of WEC. The one guy who said, yes,

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Speaker 1: we absolutely do have to comply. Take a while, guest,

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Speaker 1: the one WECK commissioner who is worth a damn Bob Spindel.

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Speaker 1: He said, no, we got to comply with state law.

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Speaker 1: WECK is claiming that a Wisconsin statute on voter privacy,

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Speaker 1: it is a privacy statute Wisconsin Statute six point three six,

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Speaker 1: related to privacy provisions of public records. They say that

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Speaker 1: this statute prohibits releasing an unredacted list to the federal

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Speaker 1: government because it contains so much identifying information. The federal

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Speaker 1: government absolutely does not have the legal right to get

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Speaker 1: this because it would violate state law. We can't violate

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Speaker 1: state law. Here's the problem in that statute, Wisconsin's Statute

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Speaker 1: six point three six. There is an exception for law

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Speaker 1: enforcement purposes within the statute itself quote, the commission or

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Speaker 1: any municipal clerk or board of election commissioners may transfer

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Speaker 1: any information in the registration list to which access is

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Speaker 1: restricted to a law enforcement agency to be used for

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Speaker 1: law enforcement purposes. Now, is the Department of Justice a

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Speaker 1: law enforcement agency? Yes, it is. Is cross checking a

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Speaker 1: voter registration list against citizenship information to ensure that only

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Speaker 1: lawful citizens, only legal citizens are casting ballots, that only

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Speaker 1: lawful ballots are being cast, and that there aren't people

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Speaker 1: who should not be on our voter rolls. Is that

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Speaker 1: a law enforcement purpose? You'd better believe it is. So

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Speaker 1: WEK is just sort of ignoring one part of the law.

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Speaker 1: Governor Evers, who has sided with Weck repeatedly over the

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Speaker 1: past several months and said, no, we're not going to

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Speaker 1: turn over our voter registration roles. No, no, no, it

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Speaker 1: would violate state privacy laws. He's just sort of ignoring

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Speaker 1: the relevant part of the statue that absolutely allows the

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Speaker 1: Department of Justice to go in and take a look

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Speaker 1: at the roles. Naturally, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: State Journal, every other mainstream news outlet that has been

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Speaker 1: reporting on this has just sort of ignored this. Why

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Speaker 1: Why Because nobody wants anybody associated with the Trump administration

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Speaker 1: to figure out that there probably are a whole ton

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Speaker 1: of people who should not be on Wisconsin's voter roles

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Speaker 1: but are anyway. Not only that, can a state law

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Speaker 1: like privacy protection for wisconsinights, can that ever trump federal law?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: I feel like I've been talking about the supremacy clause

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Speaker 1: that the Constitution an awful because this is one that

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Speaker 1: just does not seem to get through the heads of Democrats.

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Speaker 1: Under the supremacy clause of the Constitution, federal law trump's

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Speaker 1: state law. When there is a conflict between two laws,

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Speaker 1: like there is here, Title three of the Civil Rights

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Speaker 1: Act says you have to turn over all relevant records

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Speaker 1: and papers relating to the application registration requisite to voting

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Speaker 1: in a federal election. This means a voter registration list,

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Speaker 1: a voter role. And there's conflict between that federal law

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Speaker 1: and state law. And the state law says, well, you

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Speaker 1: can't turn that over because privacy and such. Guess which

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Speaker 1: law wins. The federal law supremacy clause one oh one.

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Speaker 1: This is con law one one, ladies and gentlemen. But

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Speaker 1: not only that, state law itself absolutely allows for law

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Speaker 1: enforcement to have access to this. There's nothing in state

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Speaker 1: law that prohibits a law enforcement agency like the Department

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Speaker 1: of Justice, like say the FBI, which would be investigating

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Speaker 1: this or any other DOJ entity. Because the Department of

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Speaker 1: Justice is tasked with enforcing America's laws. Ergo, it is

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Speaker 1: a law enforcement agency. There is a carve out specifically

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Speaker 1: in that statute that Evers and the libs on Weck

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Speaker 1: keeps citing, no, no, no, no, no, we can't turn

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Speaker 1: over our voter role data. Well, they're looking for reasons

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Speaker 1: not to want to turn over Wisconsin's voter role data.

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Speaker 1: They're just sort of ignoring a relevant portion of the

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Speaker 1: statute that says, yeah, you actually do have to turn

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Speaker 1: over that data to law enforcement agencies, all because they

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Speaker 1: don't want to do so. It's the exact same reason

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Speaker 1: that Dems at the federal level don't want the Save

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Speaker 1: America Act past, because they know that there are all

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Speaker 1: manner of people voting right now who aren't supposed to

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Speaker 1: be voting now. Both the leaders of the House and

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Speaker 1: the Senate for Democrats are saying the same bizarre thing

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Speaker 1: that ice agents will stop people from voting, you mean,

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Speaker 1: illegal aliens from voting. That's next here on the Dan

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Speaker 1: o'donald Show, all Celtic punk from now until Saint Patrick's

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Speaker 1: Day next Tuesday. Here on the Dan o'donald Show us

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Speaker 1: a fun little tradition that we do every year to

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Speaker 1: honor your humble hosts Irish Roots. At the tail end

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Speaker 1: of yesterday's show we played as something that was frankly

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Speaker 1: just bizarre. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said that we

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Speaker 1: can't pass the Save America Act, which would require citizenship

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Speaker 1: proof in order to register to vote, because it would

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Speaker 1: result in ICE agents at the polls and ICE keeping

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Speaker 1: people from voting.

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Speaker 8: About voter registration. It makes it. It allows ICE to

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Speaker 8: kick tens of billions of people off the rolls, off

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Speaker 8: the rolls, and they don't tell them until election day,

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Speaker 8: and you show up and you say, you're not registered anymore,

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Speaker 8: you're not registered here, you're not on the rolls, And

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Speaker 8: they say, I didn't know that. This is a bill

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Speaker 8: that destroys the country.

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Speaker 1: And it is not.

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Speaker 8: About showing ID when you show up to vote. It's

944
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Speaker 8: about the voter registration rolls, destroying them, purging them, not

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Speaker 8: letting people know, and taking the rights in a algorithm

946
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Speaker 8: put together by ICE, put together by Doge and Musk.

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Speaker 8: It's an outrage and that's why so many people don't

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Speaker 8: want to pass it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what exactly does ICE have anything to do with this?

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Speaker 1: I thought the whole point was that there are no

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Speaker 1: illegal aliens on the voter rolls. There are no illegal

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Speaker 1: aliens voting. Why would have would ice have anything to

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Speaker 1: do with this whatsoever? Now I thought this was really weird,

954
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Speaker 1: But maybe you know, Chuck schumeris he's getting a little oldie,

955
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Speaker 1: might be getting a little Seennile, might be going the

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Speaker 1: way of old uncle Joe Biden. But then House Minority

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Speaker 1: Leader Jakim Jeffries today on his little podcast said the

958
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Speaker 1: same thing. We want to keep ice away from polling places.

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Speaker 7: One of those demands is keep ice out of sensitive locations,

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Speaker 7: and we've defined that as schools, houses of worship, hospitals,

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Speaker 7: and polling sites. We want an explicit prohibition that ice

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Speaker 7: can go nowhere near any polling sites in the United

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Speaker 7: States of America. It's one of our demands. We're not

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Speaker 7: going to bend on it.

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Speaker 1: Oh kay, let's break this down logically. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: what we do here on the Dan O'Donnell show. Ice

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Speaker 1: investigates illegal aliens, correct ergo Ice would be in a

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Speaker 1: place where illegal aliens are likely to be correct. Ice

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01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: would be therefore at polling places. Why what possible reason

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Speaker 1: would there be for an ICE agent to be at

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Speaker 1: a polling place unless there was some sort of reasonable

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Speaker 1: belief that there was going to be some sort of

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Speaker 1: presence of illegal aliens at said polling place. You see

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Speaker 1: where conservatives keep sort of saying, Okay, you're sort of saying,

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Speaker 1: with your paranoid delusions about ICE agents behind every polling booth,

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Speaker 1: you sort of are admitting that, Okay, maybe there are

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Speaker 1: some deportable people who are going to show up at

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Speaker 1: polling places on election day. Now, why would there be

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Speaker 1: deportable people, not deplorable people. You know, there are tons

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Speaker 1: of deplorable people. They tend to vote Republican, according to

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. Deportable people people who are able to be

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Speaker 1: deported by ICE agents. So logically, if the fear is

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Speaker 1: that ICE is going to be showing up at polling

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Speaker 1: places and that ICE is going to have control of

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Speaker 1: the voter rolls, then it must logically follow that ICE

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Speaker 1: is investigating a the presence of illegal aliens on the

987
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: voter rolls, and ICE is showing up where illegal aliens

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01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 1: may be going to cast ballots illegally again at those

989
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: polling places. This is precisely why we need the Save

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Speaker 1: America Vote Act. The latest on that, by the way,

991
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: embattled Senate Majority Leader John Thune is saying that he

992
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: is going to bring this for a vote without doing

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01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: anything to the filibuster. He is going to require a

994
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: sixty vote threshold in order to invoke clotures. So what's

995
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: going to happen is the Save America Act, which again

996
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Speaker 1: requires photo ID at all federal elections. This is just

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01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 1: common sense. This is something supported by nearly ninety percent

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Speaker 1: of Americans, including I believe the number is seventy six

999
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Speaker 1: percent of Democrats. Democrats do believe, hey, yeah, we should

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Speaker 1: totally have voter ID. It is a tiny percentage of people,

1001
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Speaker 1: and even a majority of Democrats say yes, we should

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Speaker 1: have proof of citizenship. You should have to prove that

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Speaker 1: you're a citizen of this country in order to cast

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Speaker 1: a ballot in this country's elections. It is a small

1005
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: minority of Democrats, the Democrats who happened to be in charge,

1006
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 1: like Hakim Jeffreys and Chuck Schumer, who are saying no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no no, you can't prove your citizenship because we don't

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01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: want Ice agents all over the place to stop those

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Speaker 1: poor illegals and just deport them for the crime of,

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Speaker 1: you know, voting illegally. What's going to happen is that

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Speaker 1: vote is going to take place. The bill is going

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Speaker 1: to be introduced, it's going to be immediately filibustered. There

1013
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: is not going to be an actual filibuster where someone

1014
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: stands up all of mister Smith and goes to Washington

1015
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: and just talks for days at a time. There's going

1016
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Speaker 1: to be a zombie filibuster, as every filibuster since the

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventies has been. And then there's going to be

1018
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Speaker 1: a vote on cloture. The vote on cloture, I guess,

1019
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Speaker 1: is going to be designed to show people which senators

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Speaker 1: want election integrity, which want the Save America Act pasta,

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01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: which don't. I frankly don't care. I could tell you

1022
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Speaker 1: right now. I could probably do a whip count of

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Speaker 1: my own and tell you which ones want the Save

1024
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Speaker 1: America Act and which ones don't. Usual suspects, I guess.

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Speaker 1: Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, can we just get this woman

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Speaker 1: out of the Republican caucus already? It's acidine that she's

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Speaker 1: allowed to run as a Republican. The only reason she

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Speaker 1: runs as a Republican is because Alaska is like a

1029
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Speaker 1: Trump lost twenty state. Now it's an overwhelmingly Republican state.

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Speaker 1: She'd have no chance running as a Democrat, even though

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Speaker 1: her name is Murkowski. She's of course come out against

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Speaker 1: the Save America Act using the exact same logic as

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Speaker 1: the Democrats. Susan Collins is running for reelection. She's most

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Speaker 1: likely going to face the guy with the Nazi tattoo

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Speaker 1: on his chest, Gram Platner, So she's not going to

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Speaker 1: support this. Mitch McConnell, who used to be my homie

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Speaker 1: Cocaine Mitch and has gotten insanely liberal in his advanced

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Speaker 1: extreme old age. He's not on board with this. I

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Speaker 1: believe Tom Tillis is not on board. I'm not sure

1040
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Speaker 1: about Rand Paul. But it's the usual suspect in the Senate.

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Speaker 1: It is unconscionable to me that we have allowed for

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01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:57,719
Speaker 1: fifty years now something that the Framers never intended, something

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Speaker 1: that the fathers of this country never intended. A zombie filibuster.

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Speaker 1: You want to filibuster a bill, that's all well and good.

1045
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Speaker 1: You stop debate, all debate in the Senate stops, and

1046
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Speaker 1: then once the filibuster is over, once you yield the floor,

1047
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: we go back to business and the bill passes. It

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Speaker 1: was never intended to be a de facto sixty vote

1049
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: threshold to get anything passed in the Senate. But that's

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Speaker 1: what we've had for a half century. Look, I would

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Speaker 1: even be in favor of keeping the zombie filibuster. I

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Speaker 1: actually think this is probably the best compromise that we're

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Speaker 1: going to get. Keep the zombie filibuster. But right now

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Speaker 1: we have what's known as a two track system of legislation.

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Speaker 1: So let's say the Save America Act and every other

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Speaker 1: bill that is up next on the Senate's docket is

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Speaker 1: like a train car, right you can imagine like a

1058
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: train station. Well, how do you get cars in a

1059
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Speaker 1: different order? Well, there are multiple different tracks. So if

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Speaker 1: the track that the Save America Act car is on

1061
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Speaker 1: stops because of a filibuster, right now, every other bill

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Speaker 1: behind it just goes on to a different track. And

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Speaker 1: while the Save America Act is stopped, other bills get

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Speaker 1: voted on. It's known as the two track system of legislation.

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Speaker 1: All you need to do is to go back to

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Speaker 1: the single track system of legislation, where if a bill

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Speaker 1: is filibustered, no other Senate business can take place, no

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Speaker 1: other votes can happen because there's a philibuster. Even though

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Speaker 1: somebody is not required to physically be on the floor

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Speaker 1: of the Senate and to continue talking for hours or

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Speaker 1: days at a time. It is like somebody is It's

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Speaker 1: sort of like you ever play wiffle ball or kickball

1073
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Speaker 1: when you didn't have enough players when you were a kid,

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Speaker 1: you'd have a ghost runner on first. That's what we have.

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Speaker 1: We sort of have like a ghost filibuster er on

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Speaker 1: the floor of the Senate. There can still be that

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Speaker 1: ghost filibuster er, but they're just can't be any business

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Speaker 1: that goes on any other votes so long as that

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Speaker 1: ghost filibuster er is still doing his zombie phantom ghost philibuster.

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Speaker 1: Eliminate the two track system of legislation almost immediately. You

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Speaker 1: eliminate the non stop philibusters and the philibuster abuse of

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party. We name the Unsung Hero of the

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Speaker 1: Day coming up next here on the Dan O'Donnell's show.

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Speaker 1: So I know a lot of people were listening to

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Speaker 1: that Chuck Schumer soundbiten and saying he said tens of

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Speaker 1: billions of people will be taken off the rolls. I

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Speaker 1: think he said millions. I listened to that a number

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Speaker 1: of times after it was going viral on social media.

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Speaker 1: Earlier today, he said tens of billions of people will

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Speaker 1: be thrown off the voter roles if the Save America

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Speaker 1: Act passes. I heard tens of millions. I don't know

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Speaker 1: who knows who knows. What I do know is that

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Speaker 1: right now here on the Dan o'donald Jodi is time

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Speaker 1: to name the unsung hero of the day. Today's unsung

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Speaker 1: hero of the day is Michigan State Representative Karen Witsett.

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Speaker 1: She's announced that she is not going to seek reelection

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Speaker 1: because she's leaving the Democratic Party. She says she's doing

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Speaker 1: so because Democrats no longer align with Christian values, writing,

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Speaker 1: in the end, I have to answer to God. It's

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Speaker 1: impossible to be a faithful follower of Jesus Christ while

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Speaker 1: remaining a member of the Democratic Party as it exists today.

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Speaker 1: I have compromised my relationship with Jesus for too long now.

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Speaker 1: Witset is an African American woman. To publicly leave the

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Speaker 1: Democrat Party like that, that is an act of courage,

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Speaker 1: and for that we salute her as the unsung hero

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Speaker 1: of the day. Coming up in the five o'clock hour

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Speaker 1: here on the Dan o'donald Show, did you know Act

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Speaker 1: ten has been the law of the land for fifteen

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Speaker 1: years now, legal challenges, capital chaos, protests, Democrats in the

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Speaker 1: State Senate literally fleeing the state to try to prevent

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Speaker 1: a vote. It's also saved Wisconsin taxpayers thirty five plus

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Speaker 1: billion with a B dollars. Our friends at the MacIvor

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Speaker 1: Institute crunched the numbers and found that the effects of

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Speaker 1: Act ten have been generational and they have been significant. Naturally,

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Speaker 1: of course, Democrats have sued to end Act ten, and

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Speaker 1: it seems almost inevitable that the liberal State Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: is going to overturn it. We discussed coming up after

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Speaker 1: the news the fifteenth anniversary of Act ten. We crunched

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Speaker 1: the numbers as to how much money it's saved and

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Speaker 1: what the likelihood is that ultimately the Wisconsin Supreme Court's

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Speaker 1: liberal majority could strike it down. Plus, could the nil

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Speaker 1: bill in the Wisconsin State Senate have just hit a

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Speaker 1: major snag. It certainly looks like it. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: that and much more this hour here on the Dan

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Speaker 1: O'Donnell Show Top Stories. We are following what may be

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Speaker 1: the single biggest child sex abuse scandal in the history

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Speaker 1: of the Wisconsin school system. A federal lawsuit filed in

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Speaker 1: the Eastern District of Wisconsin today alleges a twenty five

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Speaker 1: year pattern of cover ups in the Oconto School District

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Speaker 1: Ocanto Falls School District. We spent much of the three

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Speaker 1: o'clock hour on that attorney Larry Disparsit case.

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Speaker 2: It's not just about the individual abusers, It's about a

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Speaker 2: school district that allowed these activities to go on, even

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Speaker 2: though there was multiple years of reporting and the warning signs,

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Speaker 2: and yet they failed to act.

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Speaker 1: President Trump, taking his economic message to Kentucky today, addressing

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Speaker 1: a throng of fans after he stopped in Cincinnati as well,

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Speaker 1: gave an update on the progress of the war or

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Speaker 1: is it an excursion in Iran, saying that Iran is

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Speaker 1: thoroughly decimated and that American soldiers are well ahead of schedule.

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Speaker 1: Those are the top stories that we are following right

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Speaker 1: now four one, four, seven, nine, nine, eleven thirty. If

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Speaker 1: Show anytime on our advent noos dot com, talk and

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Speaker 1: text line, email medod at iHeartMedia dot com. Follow the

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Speaker 1: favor to me, subscribe to the Dan o'donald Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio or wherever you listen to podcasts, but especially

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio to show the powers that be how much

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Speaker 1: you love the dodal. All right, we are following some

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Speaker 1: developing news out of the Wisconsin Senate, and this is

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Speaker 1: a story that we were following relatively closely here on

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Speaker 1: The Dan o'donald Show. Three members of the Joint Finance Committee,

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Speaker 1: Republicans all have now voted against legislation that would give

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Speaker 1: UW Madison about fourteen point six million dollars per year

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Speaker 1: to cover the cost of athletic facilities. That would free

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Speaker 1: up the money to pay athletes. So essentially, we would

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Speaker 1: be taking your tax money to pay a hot shot

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Speaker 1: transfer quarterback from BYU I just made up that school.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea where the bat. The Badger's better

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Speaker 1: do something because last year was an unmitigated disaster in football. Now,

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Speaker 1: the bill did clear committee eight to five, but the

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Speaker 1: opposition of GOP Senator is Julian Bradley, Rob Staffsolt, and

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Speaker 1: Pat Testin leave the bill. Leaves the bill short of

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Speaker 1: this seventeen Republican votes, it would need to clear the

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Speaker 1: Senate next week without Democrats support. Now, this is critical.

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Speaker 1: This from wispolitics dot com. By the way, a spokesperson

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Speaker 1: for Senator Devin Lemahu, a lead co author of AB

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Speaker 1: ten thirty four, didn' immediately respond to a request for

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Speaker 1: comment on whether the majority leader would still put the

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Speaker 1: bill on the floor. Now, ad Lea, Staff, Shoult, and

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Speaker 1: Testant all set after the vote. They had concerns over

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Speaker 1: using taxpayer dollars to ultimately pay athletes. Here's where this

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Speaker 1: is critical. Now, there is a long standing rule in

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Speaker 1: the Wisconsin Senate. I believe it's technically unformal, unformal. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I am a professional broadcaster. An unformal rule informal. It

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Speaker 1: is technically informal, but it is followed and it has

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Speaker 1: been followed by both parties, especially Republicans. They follow the

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Speaker 1: rule of seventeen. There are thirty three state senators right,

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Speaker 1: there are ninety nine members of the Wisconsin Assembly. Quick

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Speaker 1: little civics lesson for those of you who may be

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Speaker 1: new to Wisconsin or who don't quite understand how our

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Speaker 1: state legislature works. Lower house is known as the State Assembly.

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Speaker 1: There are ninety nine Assembly districts. For each three Assembly districts,

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Speaker 1: there is one state Senate district. That means there are

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Speaker 1: thirty three state senators. In order to get a majority

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Speaker 1: in the state Senate, you need to have seventeen votes.

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Speaker 1: The rule of seventeen says that a party will not

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Speaker 1: bring a bill to the floor for a full vote

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Speaker 1: unless there are seventeen members, in other words, a majority

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Speaker 1: of the entire Senate of the party who support the bill.

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Speaker 1: Because clearly there are not there are three Republican Senators

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Speaker 1: who don't support this bill. The rule of seventeen is

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Speaker 1: not in effect. The rule of seventeen is not cleared.

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Speaker 1: This means that in order to get his own bill passed, Lemaheu,

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Speaker 1: who is the Senate majority leader, so he would be

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Speaker 1: able to decide whether or not this bill actually comes

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Speaker 1: up when the Senate is back in session, when the

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Speaker 1: full Senate is back in we believe do we have

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Speaker 1: a date. I think there's going to be one more day,

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Speaker 1: maybe two more days of a full session I've told

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Speaker 1: it's going to be this month, possibly in April. I

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Speaker 1: have not seen the full calendar. I'm sure there's somebody

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Speaker 1: who knows. But there's going to be a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of action on that day because there were obviously a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of bills that the State Assembly passed on

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Speaker 1: its final day of the session. Yes, it's still somewhat

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Speaker 1: unbelievable that our state legislature is done about three months

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Speaker 1: into the year, but that's because it's an election year,

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Speaker 1: it's not a budget year. Wisconsin sort of has a

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Speaker 1: relatively unique way of doing policy and of doing government.

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Speaker 1: We put a whole lot of policy in the state budget,

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Speaker 1: which means there is a ton of work in odd

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Speaker 1: numbered years on the state budget. So the state Legislature

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Speaker 1: will be in session pretty much the entire year, and

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Speaker 1: about six months of that year typically, yeah, maybe not

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Speaker 1: that much. Four or five months is typically devoted to

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Speaker 1: work on the budget, which is where we get the

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Speaker 1: vast majority of policy here in Wisconsin. In even numbered years,

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Speaker 1: you of course have every single State Assembly member up

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Speaker 1: for reelection. You've got roughly half of the State Senate

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Speaker 1: up for reelection. There is a whole lot of work

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Speaker 1: that's done. The members go back to their districts, they

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Speaker 1: do political work, they do constituent work, and frankly, I'm

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Speaker 1: cool with that because the libertarian in me doesn't like

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of legislation being passed every single day here,

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Speaker 1: though Lena Hugh has it's a bit of an ethical dilemma, now,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. He clearly wants this past. Now I'm not

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Speaker 1: a huge fan of it because quite frankly, UW Madison

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Speaker 1: has been thumbing its nose at the authority of the

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Speaker 1: Republicans in the state legislature ever since they tried to

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Speaker 1: put any sort of reasonable limit on de programs. At

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Speaker 1: UW Madison. You might remember they put a hiring freeze

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Speaker 1: on the UW system. The UW Board of Regions agreed, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna endna, we're gonna stop the DEI stuff, and

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Speaker 1: then at the last second they voted no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: we love our DEI too much. Big embarrassment, big middle

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Speaker 1: finger to the Republican legislature. Eventually they did work out

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Speaker 1: a deal, but UW Madison has sort of been notorious

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Speaker 1: even though they had the worst DEI program in the

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Speaker 1: entire state. You might remember they were spending hundreds and

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Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars on furniture, on luxurious trips

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Speaker 1: to all of these unnecessary conferences. It was easily the

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Speaker 1: most overbudgeted department in the entire system. They spent more

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Speaker 1: on furniture, if memory sirs, I'm going back a couple

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Speaker 1: of years. They spent more on furniture than the library department.

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Speaker 1: And the library department has chairs that like thousands of

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Speaker 1: people sit on in a given year. Maybe it was

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Speaker 1: the only department that spent more on furniture was the

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Speaker 1: library department? Is something like that. The point is that

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Speaker 1: they spent an insane amount of money on furniture. This

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Speaker 1: department existed solely so that you could have race hustlers

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Speaker 1: giving themselves luxurious salaries and benefits and apparently really really

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Speaker 1: nice office chairs. Now we're going to reward UW. Madison. Why, seriously,

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Speaker 1: why why shouldn't repairs for facilities maintenance have to come

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Speaker 1: out of their operating budget? Why do they just get

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Speaker 1: a fifteen million dollar gift. Ultimately, this money is going

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Speaker 1: to go into the pockets of like what essentially amounts

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Speaker 1: to a free agent running back, and I get it, folks.

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Speaker 1: I'm one of the few people who said I say

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Speaker 1: this not to say I told you so, but I

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Speaker 1: was arguing against paying college athletes for twenty some years.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not even kidding about that. I wrote a

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Speaker 1: high school paper. I to write a persuasive essay when

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Speaker 1: I was in high school. I still remember this because

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Speaker 1: I had so much fun writing it. And this was

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Speaker 1: back in the nineteen nineties. We were debating. I think

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Speaker 1: it was like ninety seven, ninety eight. I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: This was well before Ed O'Bannon filed his lawsuit Obanon

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Speaker 1: NCUBA was the suit that actually led to nil payments. Hell,

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Speaker 1: I think Ed O'Bannon was still at UCLA and still

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Speaker 1: playing basketball. Loved that team. By the way, nineteen ninety five,

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Speaker 1: USC ed and Charles O'Bannon tyus Edney a great, fun,

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Speaker 1: fun team won the nc DOUBLEA tournament. I wrote a

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Speaker 1: paper saying, now, I didn't make the same arguments about

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Speaker 1: what's happening now, but I did say, look, if we

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Speaker 1: pay college athletes, you're going to have the haves and

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Speaker 1: have nots. You are just going to have the gap

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Speaker 1: between schools that can pay the most and schools that

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Speaker 1: won't be able to pay the most are just it's

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Speaker 1: going to be insane and you're just not going to

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01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 1: have fair competition. Not only that these athletes are getting

1286
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 1: compensated in terms of a free education. Oh well, damn

1287
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 1: they're not. Actually they're going to go to school. Well

1288
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: maybe they should be, because it's something like one percent

1289
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 1: of college basketball and college football players ever make it

1290
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:35,839
Speaker 1: to the pros. I think it's even less than one percent.

1291
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 1: And professional careers last a grand total on average, about

1292
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 1: three to four years. So you probably should get a

1293
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 1: college degree and make sure you're equipped to do something

1294
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 1: productive in society after your playing career ends. I don't

1295
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: think anybody could have predicted how name, image and likeness

1296
01:26:55,360 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 1: or nil payments are going today. But the idea that

1297
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 1: my tax dollars should be going to make the football

1298
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 1: team more competitive by directly paying for a player like

1299
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: a high school recruit or a transfer. This would sort

1300
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 1: of be like you know, all the Green Bay Packers.

1301
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 1: Every few years they sell stock, And yes I am

1302
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 1: an owner of the Green Bay Packers. I'm very proud

1303
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 1: of that. Yes I have the worthless piece of paper.

1304
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 1: My in law's got it for me the last time. Boy,

1305
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 1: when when was the last stock sale they did? And

1306
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 1: I'll admit I am such a dork and you can, folks,

1307
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 1: you can laugh at me. You can send me hateful emails.

1308
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: Heaven knows some of you have already. I actually got

1309
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 1: emotional when I got that stupid piece of paper. I'm yeah,

1310
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 1: it would have been February. Wait, February twenty well they

1311
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 1: got me it would have been Christmas twenty twenty two.

1312
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 1: That it was a few years back. The nice frame

1313
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 1: and everything, I said, Daniel O'Donnell, owner of the Green

1314
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: Bay Packers or whatever. I'll admit I got a motion.

1315
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 1: I was like tearing up. I'm like, oh my gosh,

1316
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,759
Speaker 1: I've always wanted this, this is like, what a nice,

1317
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: thoughtful gift. Yes, I know it's you know, they basically

1318
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 1: donated two hundred and fifty bucks or whatever it was

1319
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:22,719
Speaker 1: to the packers, but let's assume instead of voluntarily paying

1320
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 1: for the worthless piece of paper that still made Dan

1321
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 1: cry and Grammy Grampy thank you. From the bottom of

1322
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 1: my heart. I still think it's one of the coolest

1323
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 1: gifts I ever got. God help me, I'm a nerd.

1324
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 1: For the packers I'm sorry. I am even when they

1325
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 1: were doing all the woke stuff a few years ago.

1326
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:43,640
Speaker 1: It's sort of like, ha, I'll always come back to you.

1327
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. Same thing with the Bucks. The Bucks

1328
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 1: are like one of the wokest franchises in sports, at

1329
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 1: least they were when Lazar owned them. I still love them.

1330
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: I love the Brewers. I'm a die hard, But Brewers,

1331
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to say this. The

1332
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 1: Brewers are one of the more conservative franchises in professional sports.

1333
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if they want me saying that they're great.

1334
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 1: Organ is that Packers are too. Actually, and the Bucks,

1335
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 1: I I think Haslam's a big Republican, one of the

1336
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 1: big uh, one of the new owners. In any event,

1337
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 1: this would be like if instead of selling the Packers stock,

1338
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: the state legislature came in and said, Okay, Packers really

1339
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 1: need to do something. In free agency, we lost Rashaan Gary,

1340
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 1: we lost Romeo Dobbs, we lost kway Walker. We signed

1341
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 1: sky More. Sky More. This guy's name sounds like he's

1342
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 1: one of the American Gladiators. The one free agent signing

1343
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 1: is sky More. We need to get some more free

1344
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: agent sign Maybe we should Chip in and put together

1345
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 1: a package. We should get some money together and try

1346
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 1: to put together pack so we can trade for Max

1347
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 1: Crosby and then back out of the deal like two

1348
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 1: days later, like the Baltimore Ravens, a huge scandal in

1349
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 1: the NFL. By the way, leagu year didn't open until today.

1350
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: Ravens and Raiders had an agreement in principle trade two

1351
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: first round picks to Las Vegas. The Ravens were gonna

1352
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:21,839
Speaker 1: get Max Crosby got hot shot but injured edge rusher,

1353
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: one of the best in the game. Ravens said, yeah, thanks,

1354
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 1: but no thanks, We're out. Trade's not official. Sorry, guys.

1355
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 1: Watch Crosby ends up going to the Bears and just

1356
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 1: tick everybody off. But let's say, Republicans in the legislature said, well,

1357
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:44,679
Speaker 1: we all love the Packers, right, Dan, you love the Packers.

1358
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 1: I love the Packers. Why don't we give fifty million

1359
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 1: dollars in free agent money? Call it the Max Crosby Fund,

1360
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 1: or who's another big free agent that the Packers might want.

1361
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know. There have been so many moves,

1362
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't even know who's still on the market. And frankly,

1363
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 1: I've been busy to day, I've and been watching all

1364
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 1: the free agent moves. Would that fly? It's not as

1365
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 1: though this money is ultimately going to classroom improvements or

1366
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 1: it's going to research and develop. It's going to millionaire players.

1367
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 1: The players that the Badgers would give nil deals to

1368
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 1: are likely the ones. You got to go through the

1369
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 1: transfer portal to get the top players, and in order

1370
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 1: to do so, you've essentially got to pay them like

1371
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 1: free agents. You need to give some of the best

1372
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 1: players a million, two million for quarterbacks, six seven million

1373
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 1: dollars in order to go to your school. So if

1374
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 1: it's not cool for the green Bay Packers to take

1375
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:57,639
Speaker 1: tax money, and remember it's kind of the same packers

1376
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: are owned by the city of green Bay. If it's

1377
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 1: not cool for them to take tax money to pay

1378
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 1: for players, why is the UW getting money to pay

1379
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 1: for players? And hey, wait a second, there are a

1380
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 1: couple of other D one schools in Wisconsin in the

1381
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:24,879
Speaker 1: UW system, UWM D one, let's see baseball, basketball, soccer.

1382
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 1: Do they get any of that sweet, sweet state money,

1383
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 1: because I'm sure UWM could make it go a whole

1384
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:37,160
Speaker 1: lot further to get some hot shot soccer transfer from

1385
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 1: Brazil how about Doug gottlieb up at UW Green Bay.

1386
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 1: That's a D one program. He had a pretty good

1387
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 1: turnaround this year. They won all of what two games

1388
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 1: last year? Now they're above five hundred, big turnaround. They're exciting,

1389
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 1: fun team to watch. Does Doug get any of that

1390
01:32:56,560 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 1: sweet sweet nil money? Look, I'm with ten staff, Sult

1391
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 1: and Bradley. I don't want my tax money going to

1392
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 1: as much as I love UW Badger's football, and I do.

1393
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 1: I'm an alum, proud UW law school class of two

1394
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 1: thousand and six. Oh my goodness, twenty years. Oh, I

1395
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 1: just every day, it seems like every day for the

1396
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: past several weeks, I am just reminded of how old

1397
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: I've gotten. Tearing your ACL and your meniscus while playing

1398
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 1: basketball with your son, Yeah, that'll tend to do that,

1399
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 1: But twenty years since I graduated from law school. Look,

1400
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 1: I am a fan, I am an alum, I am

1401
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 1: a supporter. I cannot condone tax dollars going to pay athletes.

1402
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 1: You're listening to the Dan o'donald Show. We will be

1403
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 1: right back Act ten turns fifteen. That's next show. O'donald Show,

1404
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 1: five point six billion dollars nine million billion. That's the

1405
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 1: amount that Act ten has saved Wisconsin taxpayers in the

1406
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 1: fifteen years since it was enacted fifteen years ago. Today,

1407
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 1: March eleventh, twenty eleven, Act ten became law, and according

1408
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 1: to our good friends at the MacIvor Institute, which has

1409
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:33,560
Speaker 1: been tracking the savings ever since, twenty twelve, total savings

1410
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:39,799
Speaker 1: in direct costs thirty five point six billion dollars. According

1411
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: to McIvor. Of that, twenty one point eight billion dollars

1412
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 1: is in health insurance savings. Employees of the state of

1413
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 1: Wisconsin now contribute twelve point six percent of their health

1414
01:34:55,920 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 1: insurance premiums before it was zero. Do you find me

1415
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 1: any sort of job today where you don't have to

1416
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 1: contribute a single thing towards your health insurance premium. The savings,

1417
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:16,679
Speaker 1: according to MacIvor, are calculated using the Milwaukee method by

1418
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 1: projecting what those costs would have been if pre Act

1419
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:24,759
Speaker 1: ten trends had continued twenty one point eight billion dollars.

1420
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 1: In addition to that, pension contribution savings have totaled thirteen

1421
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 1: point eight billion dollars. Public employees now pay half of

1422
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 1: the actuarially required contributions to the Wisconsin retirement system. Who

1423
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 1: do you suppose previously covered the entire amount? That's right,

1424
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:51,480
Speaker 1: you and me, John Q. Tech payer. That comes directly

1425
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:55,560
Speaker 1: from the Wisconsin Department of Employee Trust funds. So that

1426
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 1: number is hard and fast. Thirteen point eight billion dollars

1427
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 1: in the past fifteen years, twenty one point eight billion

1428
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:08,959
Speaker 1: dollars from health insurance premium contributions. That's sort of a projection,

1429
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 1: but using what's known as the Milwaukee method, you can

1430
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 1: pretty accurately gauge the total is thirty five point six

1431
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 1: billion dollars. Not only that, it is brought back countless

1432
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 1: school districts and countless local governments from the brink of

1433
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 1: financial ruin because they have needed to or would have

1434
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,799
Speaker 1: needed to, come up with a whole lot of money

1435
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 1: for overly generous benefits for employees who just didn't pay

1436
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:42,919
Speaker 1: a single thing. And we look back at it fifteen

1437
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 1: years later and we say, how ridiculous is it? Do

1438
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:51,719
Speaker 1: you remember the capital chaos protests? This state was totally united.

1439
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 1: We were talking about the Green Bay Packers in the

1440
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 1: last segment. It's been fifteen years since the Packers last

1441
01:36:56,640 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl twenty ten season, twenty one eleven

1442
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,959
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, they got the victory over the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1443
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 1: It was like the next week the Capital chaos protest start.

1444
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 1: We were united for a grand total of about a week.

1445
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:13,719
Speaker 1: But then when Governor Walker introduced his budget repair bill,

1446
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:18,720
Speaker 1: the lefties in this state absolutely freaked the freak out.

1447
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 1: They descended on the Capitol, and of course MSNBC, The

1448
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 1: Journal Sentinel, local and state and national publications. They all

1449
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 1: made it seem as though what Walker was doing was

1450
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:43,720
Speaker 1: beyond draconian and unfair. Most normal people said, hey, uh so,

1451
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 1: wait a second, Wait a second, you're telling me that

1452
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:52,599
Speaker 1: these people paid absolutely nothing for their health insurance and

1453
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing to their health or to their pensions, And

1454
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 1: all we're requiring is for them to pay twelve point

1455
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 1: six percent of their health insurance and half of their

1456
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 1: pension contributions. Even back in twenty eleven, most people were saying, Hey,

1457
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 1: I don't have a pension. Do you know anybody who's

1458
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 1: got a pension?

1459
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 6: No.

1460
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:22,719
Speaker 1: Naturally, Democrats immediately tried to overturn Act ten. They sued

1461
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 1: multiple times, every single time in federal and state court.

1462
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:34,919
Speaker 1: Act ten was upheld seventh Circuit Court of Appeals twenty thirteen,

1463
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 1: then again in January of twenty fourteen. Later on in

1464
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen five to two decision by the Wisconsin Supreme

1465
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 1: Court upheld AT ten. April of twenty fourteen Court of Appeals,

1466
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 1: Seventh Circuit follow up ruling from an earlier case, and

1467
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:58,679
Speaker 1: then the District Court the Federal District Court in twenty nineteen.

1468
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 1: That was the operating Engineer's case. So five different times

1469
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 1: in both state court and in federal court, AT ten

1470
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:16,400
Speaker 1: has been overturned. Guess what liberals are still trying. In

1471
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, AFSME local unions, the SEIU, and a

1472
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 1: number of other unions filed another lawsuit against that ten.

1473
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 1: Now why would they try again? The Wisconsin Supreme Court

1474
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:36,680
Speaker 1: already definitively ruled like a decade earlier AT ten is constitutional.

1475
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 1: Why would they wait until twenty twenty three? I believe

1476
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 1: the suit was filed in November of twenty twenty three.

1477
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 1: Now this date is important. Why would they file specifically

1478
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:53,719
Speaker 1: after August of twenty twenty three? Big hint there, because

1479
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 1: in August of twenty twenty three, Janet Protocewitz was sworn

1480
01:39:57,240 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 1: in as the fourth liberal member of the Court. So

1481
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 1: of course liberals and their union allies were going to

1482
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:07,760
Speaker 1: get another kick at the can, hoping counting on the

1483
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 1: fact that proto Sewitz, who said throughout the campaign in

1484
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three that she was going to overturn Act ten,

1485
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 1: would vote to overturn Act ten. So they invented a

1486
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 1: new theory that somehow Act ten violates the Equal Protection Clause,

1487
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:25,600
Speaker 1: which it very clearly does not. And right before the

1488
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 1: fourth of July of twenty twenty four, Dane County Circuit

1489
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 1: Court judge denied the state's motion to dismiss, saying, look,

1490
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 1: there is no actionable legal theory. December two, twenty twenty four,

1491
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 1: he grants summary judgment to the plaintiffs and strikes down

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Speaker 1: much of Act ten. The core provisions of Act ten

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01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 1: all struck down. However, the decision has never taken a

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01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 1: far because it was immediately stayed pending the inevitable appeal.

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01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 1: Now the Wisconsin Supreme Court has been petitioned to take

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01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 1: it up on what's known as direct appeals. So how

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01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 1: it works, we have three levels of courts in Wisconsin's

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01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 1: Circuit Court, Appellate Court, and then the Supreme Court. Since

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01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 1: this went from Dane County Circuit Court, of course, it

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01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:29,320
Speaker 1: would then go to the Appeals Court. The appeals Court

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01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 1: would rule, and then if there's another appeal of that ruling,

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01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:35,760
Speaker 1: the Wisconsin Supreme Court gets to decide whether or not

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01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 1: it's going to take up the Act ten ruling. And

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01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:43,000
Speaker 1: in fact, on February twelfth, the Wisconsin Supreme Court said,

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01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:45,719
Speaker 1: now we're not going to take this up on direct appeal.

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01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 1: Why because they don't want this to be an election

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01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 1: issue before the state Supreme Court race on April seventh, Sure,

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01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:58,719
Speaker 1: but certainly not before the governor's race in November. Could

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01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 1: you imagine if Act ten was overturned, if Wisconsin taxpayers

1510
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:07,839
Speaker 1: all of a sudden had to pay all the pension

1511
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:11,599
Speaker 1: costs and all the health insurance premiums and had a

1512
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 1: massive bill come due because Act ten was no more.

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01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:19,800
Speaker 1: Could you imagine what that would do for Tom Tiffany's

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01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 1: gubernatorial campaign. He would say, Look, if I'm elected, I'm

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01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:29,759
Speaker 1: going to restore Act ten. Look at what deliberate. First,

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01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:34,200
Speaker 1: they absolutely destroyed you on property taxes thanks to Governor

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01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:39,640
Speaker 1: Evers four hundred year veto. Then they absolutely destroyed you

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01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:43,800
Speaker 1: on utility costs, and we'll try to get into that

1519
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 1: coming up in just a second. Here Mandela Barnes wants

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01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:52,639
Speaker 1: a utility price freeze. Oh that's rich, Mandela, my brother

1521
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 1: in Christ, you were in the administration that is responsible

1522
01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:03,679
Speaker 1: for all of the massive utility rate increases. So utility

1523
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 1: price increases, your heating bill, your electricity bill, your property

1524
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:11,719
Speaker 1: tax bill, and then your property tax bill just goes

1525
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 1: to the stratosphere because Act ten is gone. That would

1526
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 1: be a disaster for Democrats. The court knows it. If

1527
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:23,040
Speaker 1: nothing else. These are political creatures in black robes. They

1528
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 1: know dog gone well. That overturning Act ten would be

1529
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:34,840
Speaker 1: political suicide. Come on, you gotta have the Lord of

1530
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 1: the dance in here in the Dan O'Donnells show, Saint

1531
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:41,360
Speaker 1: Patrick's Day bumper music rotation, Welcome back to the show.

1532
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:46,360
Speaker 1: It's classical conservatism and contemporary style. We do it every

1533
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:51,200
Speaker 1: single day. One of the leading candidates for governor of Wisconsin,

1534
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 1: Mandela Barnes, former lieutenant governor and Senate candidate, came out

1535
01:43:56,240 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 1: this week and supported a price freeze or a rate

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01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 1: freeze for utility rates.

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01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 4: Here in Wisconsin, utility companies have rigged the system to

1538
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:09,679
Speaker 4: boost their own profits and salaries for wealthy executives, while

1539
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 4: people in the state of Wisconsin have seen their utility

1540
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 4: costs fight over three hundred dollars a month. People are

1541
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:18,040
Speaker 4: cutting back on essentials like food and medicine just to

1542
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 4: keep the heat on. So instead of leaving Wisconsin nights

1543
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 4: on the toe, we are going to freeze the rates

1544
01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:25,759
Speaker 4: and we're going to take all monopolies like we energies

1545
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 4: who continue to exploit Wisconsin knights just to line their

1546
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 4: old pocket.

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01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, got to give credit where credits due. Mandela

1548
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 1: is an idiot and a terrible politician. That beat that

1549
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:41,000
Speaker 1: he had behind his SoundBite there that absolutely slapped. I

1550
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:42,800
Speaker 1: got to figure out what beat that is, because we're

1551
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 1: going to totally use that for the Dan O'Donnell show.

1552
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:48,439
Speaker 1: I like that beat. He said, what were the central

1553
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 1: claims that utility companies are monopolies and they unfairly hike

1554
01:44:55,560 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 1: rates on innocent taxpayers and then their core rupt executives

1555
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 1: just go and make money for themselves. Right, those were

1556
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 1: his central claims, and as a result, wisconsinites have to

1557
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 1: choose between food and paying their heating bill. Does Mandela

1558
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 1: Barnes just kind of forget that he was Lieutenant governor

1559
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 1: in the same Evers administration that authorized the massive rate increases.

1560
01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 1: Here's how it works in Wisconsin, the Public Service Commission,

1561
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 1: because we do have monopolies. These are legal monopolies for utilities.

1562
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:38,799
Speaker 1: It just is not practical to have multiple utility companies

1563
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:41,040
Speaker 1: operating in a given region. You would just have way

1564
01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:44,560
Speaker 1: too many wires. It just so we grant legal monopoly

1565
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:49,800
Speaker 1: status to say we energies in southeast Wisconsin in exchange

1566
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:53,759
Speaker 1: for that. Though, for the monopoly status, the utility companies

1567
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 1: need to go to the Public Service Commission and ask

1568
01:45:57,080 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 1: them for permission to raise rates for heat electricity bills

1569
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:05,680
Speaker 1: for their consumers. The Public Service Commission is made up

1570
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:11,840
Speaker 1: of people picked by the governor. Under Governor Evers, PSC

1571
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 1: nominees who took a majority control, and they serve for

1572
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:17,679
Speaker 1: a set period of time. I believe it's three years.

1573
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:21,599
Speaker 1: Don't quote me on that, but Evers had Ebs's picks

1574
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:25,720
Speaker 1: had a majority of the PSC Commission posts starting in

1575
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 1: the spring of twenty twenty. Since then, they have approved

1576
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 1: two point two billion dollars in total rate increases out

1577
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:40,640
Speaker 1: of three point one billion that were requested by the utilities,

1578
01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 1: so they have approved about seventy one percent of all

1579
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:47,679
Speaker 1: of the rate increases, totaling two point two billion. Now,

1580
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 1: compare that with former Governor Scott Walker's PSC nominees who

1581
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 1: assumed majority control of the commission in July of twenty eleven.

1582
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 1: They approved three hundred million in rate increases out of

1583
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:07,280
Speaker 1: one point two billion dollars requested by the utilities, meaning

1584
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:11,520
Speaker 1: they approved just twenty five percent of the rate increases

1585
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 1: that those evil monopolistic utility companies were requesting. Evers's PSC

1586
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 1: commissioners were, in other words, the reason that the rate

1587
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 1: hikes happened. Evers Era approvals were more than seven times

1588
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:40,240
Speaker 1: higher than Walker's commissioner's approvals of rate hikes. Actual bills

1589
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 1: for most customers are now about on average twenty five

1590
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 1: dollars higher per month than they were in late twenty

1591
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 1: twenty four. This is having a real impact on people's

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01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:56,000
Speaker 1: bottom lines. On that I will actually agree with Mandela Barnes.

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01:47:56,720 --> 01:48:01,360
Speaker 1: Here's the thing though, under Scott Walker, according to information

1594
01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:07,360
Speaker 1: from the US Energy Information Administration EIA, average monthly electric

1595
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 1: bill under Scott Walker eight years of Scott Walker ninety

1596
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:16,639
Speaker 1: four dollars and sixty seven cents. Your average electricity bill

1597
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:20,759
Speaker 1: under Evers one hundred and ten dollars and eighty seven cents.

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01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 1: They've gone up sixteen percent because of all those rate increases. Now,

1599
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 1: how about how about those greedy executives who are just

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01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 1: making money for themselves. Let me tell you this story

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01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:44,720
Speaker 1: of one of Evers PSC commission nominees, Rebecca Valk. She

1602
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 1: served for like thirty years as an energy attorney. She

1603
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 1: represented wi Energies. She was like the in house regulatory

1604
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 1: lawyer there. She then went to Quarrels and Brady became

1605
01:48:56,439 --> 01:49:01,759
Speaker 1: partner and she represented we Energies. February twenty nineteen, she's

1606
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 1: appointed by Evers not just to be a commissioner on

1607
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 1: the PSC, she's appointed to be the chairwoman. She serves

1608
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 1: for five years, steps down in February of twenty twenty four.

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01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 1: Six months later, she joins Alliant Energy as the assistant

1610
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 1: vice president of Regulatory Affairs. This past December, Alliant announces

1611
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 1: that she is going to become president of Alliance Wisconsin

1612
01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:35,040
Speaker 1: Utility business, the Wisconsin Power and Light company. It serves

1613
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 1: central and southern Wisconsin. She officially started in this role

1614
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 1: January fifth. Now what's her salary. It's not been publicly reported,

1615
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 1: but guess what. Her successor, David de Leone, made one

1616
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 1: point three seven million dollars in twenty twenty four. So

1617
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:59,680
Speaker 1: Rebecca Valk goes from we energies representing energy companies to

1618
01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:03,200
Speaker 1: the which is supposed to regulate the energy companies. Then

1619
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 1: she goes right back to another energy company after approving

1620
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:10,320
Speaker 1: a whole ton of rate hikes with the PSC, and

1621
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:13,760
Speaker 1: she gets rewarded with what we can only presume to

1622
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:18,720
Speaker 1: be a million dollar plus salary. Nice work, if you

1623
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:22,080
Speaker 1: can get it. If I gave you a list of

1624
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 1: eighty three NBA players most likely to score eighty three

1625
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 1: points in an NBA game, would Bam Autobio of the

1626
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:38,439
Speaker 1: Miami Heat be on your list? Probably not, but he

1627
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:43,679
Speaker 1: did just that last night, breaking Kobe Bryant's all time

1628
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 1: record for points in a game that we know definitively

1629
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 1: actually happened. It is a long standing rumor that Wilt

1630
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:57,559
Speaker 1: Chamberlain's famous one hundred point game in Hershey, Pennsylvania, back

1631
01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties, fifties, sixties sixties. I believe like

1632
01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:04,840
Speaker 1: sixty two, sixty three somewhere in there that it never

1633
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 1: actually happened. There's no video of that game. It's almost

1634
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:11,719
Speaker 1: impossible to believe. But there is no video of Wilt

1635
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 1: Chamberlain's hundred point game. So conspiracy theorists have said for

1636
01:51:16,280 --> 01:51:19,519
Speaker 1: years it didn't actually happen, and that twenty years ago

1637
01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 1: when Kobe Bryant scored eighty one points, that that is

1638
01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:28,320
Speaker 1: actually the NBA's all time points record. It isn't. It

1639
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 1: is second all time, at least it was until last night.

1640
01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 1: Autobio shot a record all time forty two free throws.

1641
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:48,639
Speaker 1: He made thirty six of them, also an NBA record. Now,

1642
01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because people are mad that

1643
01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:57,040
Speaker 1: the late great Kobe Bryant is eclipsed forever in the

1644
01:51:57,080 --> 01:52:00,000
Speaker 1: record books. By I mean, Autubio is a good player,

1645
01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:04,559
Speaker 1: a very very good player, but he's sort of your

1646
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:07,800
Speaker 1: classic twenty to ten guy. I mean, he's always kind

1647
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:10,160
Speaker 1: of at that borderline all star level, but he's not

1648
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:15,400
Speaker 1: a surefire Hall of Fame or all time great. But

1649
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 1: people are criticizing the way that the Miami Heat, and

1650
01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:21,960
Speaker 1: they beat the Washington Wizards last night by about twenty

1651
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:26,440
Speaker 1: five points. They were intentionally fouling. Now, Washington is clearly

1652
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:29,960
Speaker 1: trying to tech. They traded for Trey Young from the

1653
01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:32,760
Speaker 1: Atlanta Hawks and just decided to sit him down. They

1654
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 1: just said, Okay, Trey, you're not going to play this

1655
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:37,040
Speaker 1: year because we're definitely trying to get one of the

1656
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:43,639
Speaker 1: top three picks in the NBA draft. The Heat were

1657
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:47,320
Speaker 1: just intentionally fouling pretty much throughout the entire fourth quarter

1658
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 1: to get more time, to get more possessions, to just

1659
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:52,599
Speaker 1: feed the ball to Bam to try to get as

1660
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:56,000
Speaker 1: many points as he possibly can. And admittedly it wasn't

1661
01:52:56,000 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 1: the prettiest eighty three point explosion that I've ever seen, butankly,

1662
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 1: eighty three points is eighty three points. It's an incredible accomplishment.

1663
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Speaker 1: Back tomorrow for the Thursday edition of The Dan O'donald