1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: We were watching some of the pregame festivities for Monday 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Night Football. 3 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 2: Here. 4 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: It's a big game obviously, really for both these teams. 5 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: If Indianapolis loses, it's pretty much done for them. And meanwhile, 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: I think I had this correctly. If Indianapolis loses, that 7 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: punches the ticket officially for Jacksonville. I know, the Chargers, 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: I think, because right now the AFC only has two 9 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: teams that are officially locked in. It's the Broncos and 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: the Patriots. But the Colts losing would punch the ticket 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: for several I can look that up here in a second. 12 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: But it's a really big game. I don't know, Dave. 13 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: Before we get back to the Broncos. Expectations of Philip 14 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: Rivers in the second start. 15 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: I actually think you'll play pretty well. Yeah, yeah, I do, 16 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 3: you know. I mean, San Francisco has had just an 17 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: unbelievable year when you consider how many injuries they've had. 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: I mean, they've been decimated with injuries, and here they 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: are right in the thicket things in the NFC. 20 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: So I. 21 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: Expect the Niners to win, but it would not surprise 22 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: me if Philip Rivers plays pretty well unless Robert Salah 23 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: sort of comes out of character and wants to really 24 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 3: pressure him a lot. I mean, Salah is a guy 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: that likes to get to you with four and play coverage, 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: and I think Rivers, even at his age, is still 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: capable of being pretty good against that. 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: Look how about you, Benny. I don't know how to feel. 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't feel like Philip Rivers is gonna play. Well. 30 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: He's forty four. He looks like he's about two sixty five. 31 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: Look at him, I mean he looks sixty to sixty. 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: He's too big. He's been enjoying his time off. Now 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: sixty five that's insulting. He's got ten kids. Do you 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: think he's heavier than that? No, No, I'm just he said, no, 35 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: I think about two sixty Oh yeah, two sixty five. Yeah, 36 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: he's yeah, he's too old. I don't know. I would 37 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: heat him up just to see if he can move 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: a little bit and try to escape the pressure. But 39 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: then also you know, he still has that type of 40 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: mind where he can diagnose blitzes and try to get 41 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: rid of the ball. So I expect the forty nine 42 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: ers to win, and you know, the Coats will continue 43 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: to lose and they'll be out of the playoffs, yere 44 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: pretty soon, Okay, but hold back now. Yeah, they're eight 45 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: and six. They have to win out to really even 46 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: be in the conversation for anything at this point. Well, Jacksonville, 47 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: they after being the Broncos yesterday, there they other sites 48 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: they think they can get to the one seed. And 49 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people out there that are sort 50 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: of picking the Broncos to fall apart down the stretch. 51 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: But we were talking about it the break twelve and 52 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: a half point favorites against Kansas City. That'd make a 53 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: little nervous. 54 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: They're Dave, No, okay, No, I mean, who's picking the 55 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: Broncos to fall apart? 56 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: Oh a lot. I mean, I think, in fairness, there 57 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: are people that are waiting for this moment to pick 58 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: the Broncos to the. 59 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: Most part, losing for the first time in three months. Yes, 60 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 3: that moment. 61 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: They've been quite literally waiting for a moment that it 62 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: all kind of falls apart. 63 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: Because I wouldn't be mad at Jacksonville if Jacksonville's talking about, Hey, 64 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: here's what has to happen for us to be the 65 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: number one seed. They obviously owned the tiebreaker with the Broncos, right, 66 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: they won their eleventh game yesterday, so they're eleven and four. 67 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: They can finish thirteen and four, which if the Broncos 68 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: would lose one of the last two, they'd had the 69 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: same they'd have the same record. So and again, from 70 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 3: a tiebreaker standpoint, there's so many different tiebreaking scenarios. I'm 71 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: not sure if you're talking about from the number one seed, 72 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: if it's if the first if the first tiebreaker is 73 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 3: head to head. 74 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: I'm not sure it is. Yep, yep, it is head 75 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: to head. 76 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: Soad. 77 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: So if the Broncos theoretically would would lose a game, 78 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: let's say they beat the Chargers but lost to the Chiefs, 79 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: so they're going to win the AFC West, they would 80 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: finish thirteen and four. 81 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: If Jacksonville won the last two games, who do they 82 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: play Jacksonville? 83 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: But then the Patriots. Of course at that point we 84 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: don't know where they're twelve and three right now, so the. 85 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: So Patriots would be the Patriot uh, and the Patriots 86 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: have the Jets and Miami. Yeah wow, so they're gonna 87 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: they're gonna be fourteen and three. 88 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: Who does Jacksonville finish with. 89 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: They've got the Titans, they got the coltson and the Titans. 90 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: Okay, so theoretically, at least on paper, they look like 91 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: they're gonna finish thirteen and four. So yeah, the bron 92 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: I mean, the Broncos need to win two games. They 93 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: win games, They're gonna win two games, that's it. 94 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: And they'll have the tiebreakers they need for not only 95 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: they have westbro it's the one seed if they win to. 96 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: They have the tiebreaker with the Patriots. 97 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: Yep. 98 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: The Broncos win two games, the Patriots cannot be the 99 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: number one seed. Yep, nor could the Chargers, nor could 100 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 3: Jacksonville because the Broncos have one more win the Jacksonville does. 101 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: So it's real easy to do. The Broncos need the 102 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 3: one seed. I mean, I think it really helps them. 103 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: I think it helps them have going to come here 104 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: and play. If you're I I would want to have 105 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: those two games theoretically in Denver rather than three games. 106 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: On the road. Yeah, going to Jacksonville is not much 107 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: of a home field advantage. You're pretty spicy today. I 108 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: like it. I mean, I don't know that that video 109 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: kind of got me a little wrapped up a little bit. 110 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 111 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: So, but yeah, jackson was the one with arcandidates or no, no, no, oh, 112 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: he celebrate, just like, come on, relax, but here's a 113 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: small market to you. What are you doing? 114 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 115 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: Here was a Votex after the game and he was 116 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: asked by Mike Cliff if this is a wake up call? 117 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's. 118 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 4: Uh, you know, it's tough to go on a twelve 119 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 4: game streak or eleven, which every one was, and then 120 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: you know, we got hit in the mouth today and 121 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 4: they played a good game, and you know we let 122 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 4: it get away. But you'd rather have it hit you 123 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 4: now than the first round the playoffs and you know, 124 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 4: going called a wake up call because we were playing well. 125 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: It's just one of those that'll. 126 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 5: Reset you and put you back and get you back 127 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 5: to you know, you know where you need to be. 128 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 5: It'll put you in a good mindset if you'll let it. 129 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 5: And you know, like I said, can't let this one linger. 130 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 5: You got to move on and attack this week on 131 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 5: just a short couple of days. 132 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, so not a wake up calling it. I think 133 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: he's right in perspective of how well they've been playing. 134 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: But maybe a refocus is that probably a better way 135 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: to frame it. Yeah, I would say, yeah, reset, reflect, 136 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: refocus on what just happened in this game. I think 137 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: there were some good things and then I think some 138 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: things that need to be cleaned up in that can 139 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: be cleaned up, and that's what I expect. I expect 140 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: Sean to really harp on the details and let that 141 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: message go down into the assistant coaches, and the assistant 142 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: coaches really focus on that throughout the rest of this 143 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: week and the rest of the season in terms of 144 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: the details, because that's what matters in playoff games is 145 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: that's all the little things, all the small things, all 146 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: the little details, and that's what's got to happen. 147 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 6: And the Broncos got to be on that. And I 148 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 6: think it's going to start this week against Kansas City. 149 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 2: And you love that. 150 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 6: It's the fact that it's a short week against a 151 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 6: team that you want to finish out and you know 152 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 6: it's not a hat and T shirt game just yet, 153 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 6: but you know this is very important in terms of 154 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 6: the division, in terms of the playoff race, and the 155 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 6: utmost importance. You know, there's only two games left in 156 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 6: the regular season, so gets these things cleaned up and 157 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 6: cleaned up fast. 158 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: Let me ask you, Dave, So we don't have a 159 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: lot on Chris Oladkin, who did play the preseason. He 160 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: played the preseason. I'm just kind of curious because he 161 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: played most of I think he played the entire second 162 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: half against the Titans, like eleven to sixteen, And I 163 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: don't know. I watched a little bit of the game. 164 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: I watch more of it tomorrow, but as you watch 165 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: it because you want to see Kansas City just get beat. 166 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: Might have enjoyed a little bit of that. But more 167 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: than anything, does the short week benefit the Broncos preparation 168 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: for a quarterback? We haven't seen a ton or is 169 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: it maybe a hindrance because you like to get a 170 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: little deeper dive. 171 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: I don't think that'll be a factor. I think. 172 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: I mean, if if you're Andy Reid and you have 173 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: your third team quarterback playing on Christmas Night in a 174 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: season that you're out of the playoffs, you know, to me, 175 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: he's going to be uber aggressive. It won't be normally 176 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: in a in a game that maybe mattered for the Chiefs. 177 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: Maybe you try to manage it. Maybe you try to 178 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: get the running game going, some short passes. I mean, 179 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: you try to do those things. I think it's got 180 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: nothing to lose, so I don't I don't think whether 181 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 3: you play him on Thursday or Sunday. I think defensively 182 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: for the Broncos is going to be important that they 183 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 3: disguise things well, that they the pre snap look that 184 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: he gets is not really the post snap look of 185 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: reality and young quarterbacks and and and make him understand 186 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: early in the game that there's going to be color. 187 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 3: He's going to see a lot of color and it's 188 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: not going to be red. So that and obviously you 189 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: want to take away, take away the running game and 190 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: force him. But listen, I wouldn't be surprised if his 191 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 3: numbers are decent at the end of the game. 192 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 2: He's a pretty good athlete. He can run around a 193 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: little bit. 194 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: So you mean you got to go into this not 195 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 3: thinking like, oh, we're playing their third team quarterback and gosh, 196 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: we're twelve and a half point favorites. You got to 197 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: go in and saying, hey, we've got to make enough 198 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: plays in this game to find a way to win 199 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: and get our fannies back in the plane and come home. 200 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah, don't take this game lightly. 201 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: There's nothing the Chief would love to piss off the Broncos. 202 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: And course make this a close game or even try 203 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: to win this game. 204 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 6: I think there could be some trickery in there, some 205 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 6: special teams trickery, and hey, how do we fake a 206 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 6: punt here? 207 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: You know, double reversus reverse pass. You know, they still 208 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: have talented players on that side of the ball, regardless 209 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: of the quarterback. But I think this could be a 210 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: really simple game plan of let's just try to complete 211 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: some deep passes. And that's what the game plan was 212 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: against the Broncos early on in the season, Patrick Mahomes 213 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: trying to throw go routes on these guys. Hey, we 214 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: got Riley Moss and Patterer Tann. We're gonna try Riley 215 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: Moss on these go routes and we're gonna see if 216 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: we can complete these things downfield. So I think, you know, 217 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: you'll get a lot of dancer routes or just go 218 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: routes on the outside, or some slant spacing and then hey, 219 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: let this guy be an athlete make plays. And yeah, 220 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: I mean Travis Kelsey's gonna play. It's gonna be you know, 221 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: see what he does in the game plan. 222 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 6: But it's a short week and we'll see so but yeah, 223 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 6: I mean, now they're playing spoiler. Let's see if we 224 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 6: can just ruin the Broncos Christmas, which is a. 225 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: Weird spot for them to be in right, to not 226 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: have that experience for over a decade of playing spoiler 227 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: this late in the year. That's what's very curious for me, 228 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: because I agree with everything you guys said as far 229 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: as sort of the expectation if you're the Broncos coaching 230 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: staff of how weird this game might get from Kansas 231 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: City side of things, especially when you're playing with a 232 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: third string quarterback. Understanding how many guys are down, I 233 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: mean they have. They're at least four key players, Trip McDuffie, 234 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: Rachie Rice Taekwon Thornton and Jalen Watson all not practicing today, 235 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: and I think I mean too are in concussion protocol. 236 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: There's a reason to play Trent McDuffie at this point 237 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: if he's got any kind of ailing anything right. The 238 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: same thing with Jalen Watson's right, that's right, that's right. 239 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: I wouldn't play. Yeah, that's that's exactly right. So there's 240 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: there's a bit of a weirdness vibe to the whole thing, 241 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: especially the third string quarterback. But yeah, I guess if 242 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: you're the Broncos, you just got to kind of manage 243 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: that right and understand and play desperate. Yeah, yeah, well 244 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: you have to play desperate because you need this game 245 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: and you know this, You need this to win this 246 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: game for the division. So you know, I've been on 247 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: the other side before if teams that aren't going to 248 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, and for guys like myself and some 249 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: of those guys on Kansas City, you're playing for some 250 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: film right now, and if you can catch a pass 251 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: on passer tan or one of these number one defense 252 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: that looks good for you going into free agency and 253 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: to get resigned by the Chiefs or re signed by 254 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: the Broncos or Broncos practice squad in the future or 255 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: futures contract. So there will be. 256 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 6: Guys on Kansas City that were playing that are planning 257 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 6: for to continue and extend their career. So Investor believed 258 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 6: this is this is a great opportunity on Christmas Day 259 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 6: perhaps to have a day like Washington just had. 260 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: Against the Broncos, Like that's going to go. 261 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 6: You know, his agent is going to be using that like, hey, 262 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 6: I guess the number one defense my guy had six 263 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 6: catches for one forty five in a touchdown. You know, 264 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 6: that's what That's how I would be thinking if I 265 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 6: was on Kansas City right now. It's a great opportunity 266 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 6: to go against one of the best defenses in the 267 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 6: league and make plays. As the last game on Christmas Day, 268 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 6: one hundred percent. Going back to the game yesterday for 269 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 6: a moment, he just brought up Parker Washington, and Dave, 270 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 6: you and I spent all week last week previewing the 271 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 6: game talking about the different matchups, and you start with 272 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 6: Jacobe Myers, you start with you know, you get to 273 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 6: Bryan Thomas, go Brent Strange. We talked about Parker Washington, 274 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 6: but mostly as a special teams player at that point. Now, 275 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 6: in the end, I think the Broncos the actually did 276 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 6: a pretty good job overall on Meyers Strange. I mean, 277 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 6: Strange had the cup the touchdown, but Myers had four catches, 278 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 6: most of them coming in later. Strange hit five, Bryan 279 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 6: Thomas had two, and even at Travesity team out of 280 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 6: the backfield only had four for sixteen yards. So again, 281 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 6: I feel like for a lot of what the Broncos 282 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 6: were doing, and it kind of comes back to your 283 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 6: point about the intensity and the fact that they didn't 284 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 6: look like a team that wasn't trying. 285 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: There's effort. I feel like they did a pretty good 286 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: job overall. They just missed a couple of tackles. Is 287 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: it simple to boil it down to that on the 288 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. 289 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if it's that simple, but I 290 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 3: think those things will be pointed out. And I think 291 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: at this time time of the season, I mean, you 292 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 3: got to make sure your guys feel good about themselves 293 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 3: going into Thursday night. The last thing you want to 294 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 3: do is get up and start tearing guys down and 295 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 3: ripping into guys. There's a time for that, and every 296 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: NFL coach has done it and will do it. But 297 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 3: to me, this is not the time. So I would 298 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: show them the film, right, I mean, if you're not 299 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 3: gonna watch it with the coaches whatever, But hey, ellas, 300 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 3: I mean, we just got to break down and make 301 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: a tackle, right. This is a quick out, speed, cut out, 302 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: five yard gain tackle, second of five or first down, 303 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. But we come so hard 304 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: and aggressive because we're not at that point situationally awhere, Like, 305 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: who is that that is the punt returner? You know, 306 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: he's got the goods, he's got shake. 307 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: You know it. So one broken tackle and he's off 308 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: to the races. So stuff like that. And then I 309 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: think i'd try to clean. 310 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: Up some of the communication in the back end, just 311 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: to make sure we're on the same page. Maybe you know, 312 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: in this game plan, maybe they played a bunch of zone, 313 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: bunch of zonne against Jacksonville. And you know, from time 314 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: to time when you've been a heavy man team, it's 315 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 3: it's a little bit of a challenge to jump into 316 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: his own you're not quite as crisp as you could 317 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: be or or should be. And I think, again we've 318 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: talked about the defense, but I think there's there's things 319 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: the offense has to has to get cleaned up. I mean, 320 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 3: you know, false starts and you know, things like that. 321 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: You just you can't you can't. 322 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 3: Self detonate in an NFL game and expect to be 323 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 3: a good team. 324 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: Sean was asked earlier today about the offensive performance on 325 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: third down, because they actually have been pretty good over 326 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: the last several games on third down, but yesterday was 327 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: another example. You're bad in the red zone for the defense, 328 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: and then an offense you had a hard time staying 329 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: on the field. Here's what he said. 330 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, look, there were a number of things watching the 331 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 7: tape that were disappointing. Guys trying to do more than 332 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 7: what they're supposed to do. And I think that it 333 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 7: comes back to the simple fundamentals. What's the read, what's 334 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 7: the progression, what's the route depth, what's the protection, and 335 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 7: and and not trying to not trying to create or 336 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 7: do more than what we're what's on the table. And 337 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 7: there were there were plenty of opportunities in that game, 338 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 7: and and we didn't take advantage of them. 339 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So he mentioned the fundamentals there. That's something that 340 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: you guys both touched on a little bit earlier. What 341 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: is doing too much mean? 342 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 6: I just think it's funny because I haven't heard any 343 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 6: of the you know, the press conference from today, but 344 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 6: you know, we talked about fundamentals, and it just shows 345 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 6: or it helps me just realize how much of you know, 346 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 6: NFL seasons and games are very similar. But when I 347 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 6: think about somebody when he says they're doing too much, 348 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 6: I think you're you're playing a little bit out of character. 349 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 6: And when I also think about that, I think about 350 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 6: the Broncos and just players not necessarily taking Jacksonville lightly, 351 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 6: but well, you you've probably been getting away with this 352 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 6: in other games. And he talked about route depth, that's 353 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 6: a fundamental thing, protection, being better with your feet. These 354 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 6: are all the little things that sometimes when things get 355 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 6: heightened or in the second half when you have to 356 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 6: come back, you start doing things that are out of character, 357 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 6: and you know that's you know, you have to correct 358 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 6: those things. 359 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: And as Dave was saying, you know, if he was 360 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: a coach, you know, you wouldn't be harping on guys 361 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: and just talking about how bad things went. You would 362 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: be like, hey, I would get a list of plays, 363 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: maybe ten to twelve plays, and like, hey, if we 364 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: fix this right here, this could be different on this drive, 365 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: or if we fix this right here, like we're this 366 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: close to that game being very different. 367 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 6: And that's what happens in most NFL games. It's just 368 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 6: you know these you know, Dave talked about it earlier 369 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 6: with me, these four to five plays on any given 370 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 6: driver in each half, three to four plays in each 371 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 6: half where you know, you know, things can go a 372 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 6: different way. But I love that Sean talked about the 373 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 6: fundamentals because I think That's what it all came down to. 374 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 6: I didn't think Jacksonville did anything where they schemed up 375 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 6: the Broncos in so many different ways that they took 376 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 6: the Broncos out of their game plan. I thought it 377 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 6: was more show on the Broncos. The Broncos beat themselves 378 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 6: in yesterday's game. What did you take away from what 379 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 6: Seawan said there, Dave, I would. 380 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 2: Agree with Benny. 381 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 3: I think there were you always have to kind of 382 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 3: read between the lines and listen closely to what a 383 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 3: coach says. Because Seawn's really good at at doing his 384 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 3: absolute best when he when he actually tells you something, 385 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 3: but he's gonna he's gonna try to couch it in 386 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 3: a way that you're not exactly sure. I think, you know, 387 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 3: maybe trying to do too much at times would be 388 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 3: a reference to Bo. 389 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: That would be how I would I would view that. 390 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 3: I think the the interception he through yesterday and Bennie 391 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 3: and I talked about it on the on the podcast, 392 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 3: you know that ball, that ball can't go there, and 393 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 3: and listen Bo's made I mean Bo's made some great 394 00:18:54,960 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 3: plays recently, right, last four games before yesterday, five touch downs, 395 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 3: one interception, so he's made good decisions. There have been 396 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: a couple of times the guys have had their hands 397 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: in the ball, but you know what that happens in 398 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 3: the NFL. But that throw in particular, I mean, you've 399 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 3: got guys open on the other side of the field. 400 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: So there's so many there's so many variables that go 401 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 3: into having a really consistently efficient offense. Right, eliminate your 402 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: pre snat penalties, which they did not do yesterday. Don't 403 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 3: get behind the sticks, which they did do a couple 404 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: of times. You got to be much better in third 405 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: down conversions. What I hear Sean say is that there 406 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 3: are opportunities to convert on third down. We didn't take 407 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 3: advantage of them. When receivers are running short on their routes. 408 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: To me, it's one of two things. Either a defensive 409 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: back got his hands on you, right and that will 410 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 3: throw off that clock that every receiver has, or you're fatigued, right, 411 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: I mean, if your f you're not going to get 412 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 3: all the time the depth you're supposed to get to 413 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: sixteen yards on the dig and your sucking air you 414 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: might get to thirteen. 415 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: Well, that's that's a big thing. 416 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: So all of all of those things I think sort 417 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: of factor. 418 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: Into the stew. 419 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: And you got potatoes and carrots and beef and everything else. 420 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 3: But yesterday just wasn't good enough by the Broncos on 421 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 3: either side of the ball. And I think they know that, 422 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: and I think they'll get enough of it fixed so they. 423 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: Can go to Kansas City. 424 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: You win Kansas City, you come back on Christmas night, 425 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 3: you will have forgotten about yesterday's game. You will be 426 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 3: onto the most important game, which will be the next game, 427 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: and that'll be the Chargers. 428 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 429 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: I think the Broncos, you know, they had these little 430 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: details or little things that they missed. And I you know, 431 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: I agree with Dave on that that interception that can't 432 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: go there. You know, cover two safety right there. You 433 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: have nothing to hold the corner with a flat you know, 434 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: with a flat route or a quick out. Well, can't 435 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: you know it's covered too. You have the stick concept 436 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: to the to the other side, and evening's wide open 437 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: just to convert that force into you. 438 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 2: Got a one of those things. 439 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, parties something like that. 440 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 3: Is it like and I'm air quoting, is it a party? 441 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: I see what you're trying to do here. I'm just 442 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: asking swings and that is not is not that kind 443 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: of party for the last time. Okay, all right, it's 444 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: not going to be any food. 445 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: They don't have food at those type parties. 446 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: Have food at those type of parties. You don't want 447 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: the food at those type of parties, now that I 448 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: would know, and not that there's anything wrong with that, 449 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: just uh yeah, so the family you can swallow. 450 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: That's exactly right, That's exactly that. 451 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: Such a wild quote for him to repeat that a 452 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: couple of times throughout. 453 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: The right and he was proud of it, and. 454 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: He was and again like it sounds like like this 455 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: two conversation way at a context. No, know that he 456 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: was talking about, Hey, we need to absorb this loss. 457 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 3: You don't think you can't swallow it. 458 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: No, it still sounds just as bad with or without context. 459 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I sort of get it. I was going 460 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: to ask you, Betty says you had experience with him 461 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: as your coach. What was he like in late season? 462 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: Like how did he coach the guys late season? Because 463 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: you guys had playoff runs late season. I was not 464 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: in the building. Oh, I had tore my rotator cuff 465 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: and later from Week eight Week nine, wasn't in there 466 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: to see all that. I joined some of the meetings virtually. 467 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: But Sean's a big theme guy. Is the tin guy 468 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: theme Like, what's the theme for this week? What's the 469 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: vision for this week? But yeah, he's always on the details. 470 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 6: I mean, I don't think he's actually any different from 471 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 6: a regular season game too early in the season until 472 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 6: later on in the season. 473 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 1: He's always going to harp on the details. 474 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 6: He's always going to try to have a certain vision 475 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 6: for this in terms of the personnel, in terms of 476 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 6: the personnels, he wants to. 477 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: Use the plays that he's calling. So I don't think 478 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: he will be any Yeah, he'll. 479 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 6: Be probably a little bit more uptight, you know, just 480 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 6: because you know they chance at the one seed and 481 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 6: the playoff pitcher and the chance to really win a 482 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 6: Super Bowl. Yeah, he's a little bit more uptight, but 483 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 6: you know he's still going to be harping on every 484 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 6: all the little things. 485 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 2: Day. 486 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about the players responsibility and some 487 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: of the maybe you missed opportunities yesterday. What about the coaching, 488 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: Like how much of yet we have to point a 489 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: lot of fingers, But just from a coaching standpoint, what 490 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: is sean thinking I could have done better or done 491 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: more of in order to help these guys with the 492 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: fundamentals the things we were talking about earlier. 493 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I listen, I've never coached in the NFL. 494 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 3: I my guess would be that even at that level, 495 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 3: you are constantly whether you call it second guess in 496 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 3: yourself or self analyzing. You know, when you go back 497 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 3: and look at that film, and I'm sure most, if 498 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: not all, those coaches did that last night, that they 499 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 3: will find five, six, seven, eight plays calls that when 500 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: they see it, it'll be like, oh, and they'll see 501 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 3: another three or four calls that they like the call, 502 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 3: but guys didn't execute the call for whatever reason, right, 503 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 3: maybe they maybe they had a coverage call, and all 504 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 3: of a sudden, there's nobody in the middle of the field. 505 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 3: Where's my where's my middle middle safety? So that's the 506 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 3: that's the beauty and also the challenge of football. I 507 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 3: think it's to me, it's why it's the greatest team 508 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 3: game in the world. There are so many moving pieces 509 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 3: and there is such a strategy involved every single play, 510 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: and then the play happens, and then you're gonna do 511 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: it all again. I mean, it's like seventy different strategies involved, 512 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 3: and you get to make a decision, and then based 513 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 3: on that decision, your players have to make a decision. 514 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 3: And then when the whistle blows, you go back in 515 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 3: the huddle and think of another time. It's it's It's 516 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: a great game, for sure, no doubt about it. 517 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: I got another question about Justin Simmons, and we didn't 518 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: really get to that much earlier, but after what we 519 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: saw yesterday and you talked about some of the communication stuff. 520 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: I know you recently talked to Justin Simmons, like, are 521 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: you smiling over there? 522 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: Did Benny? 523 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 3: Did Benny say that Philip Rivers looks like he ate 524 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: a first grader? 525 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: That's exactly what he said. We have tape. I know 526 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: we have tape somewhere. 527 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: I thought I heard you say that. Sorry, go ahead, gosh, 528 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 2: I mean. 529 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 6: Philip, Wow, he's big, dude, he said big. 530 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: You know what you said two sixty five. I'm I'm 531 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: gonna go over. 532 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 3: He looks a little bit like the late great Jared Lorenzen. Yeah, 533 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 3: they left it left from Kentucky. Yes, Now, Jared was 534 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,959 Speaker 3: over three hundred pounds. I don't think Philip is is 535 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: three hundred pounds, but he's he's, as we would say. 536 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: A big old boy. 537 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: No farness. The camera does add like thirty pounds, is that? 538 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: No? Is that right? No? 539 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: And these are widescreen TVs. 540 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: Tell you right now he's going to play well tonight. 541 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you're you're you're crowing during one of the 542 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: breaks about how you're you're you're on the Colts tonight, 543 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: you see it? 544 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 2: No, all right, I. 545 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: Forget what I was asking you. You were asking me 546 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: about about Justin Simmons. Yeah, yeah, because you just recently 547 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: had him as a guest. Yeah, well, you know when 548 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: Dave was taking time off, you know, just onations slacker. 549 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, Justin he filled in. We had some really good conversations. Yeah, 550 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 6: I think, and Dave and I were talking about this 551 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 6: off camera earlier today. 552 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: Actually didn't get Jay. I didn't hear Day's response. 553 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 6: But I don't know if Justin, from a mindset standpoint 554 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 6: and what he understands about this defense could fill in. 555 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: But to not play seventeen weeks. 556 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 6: And then come in here and to play he definitely 557 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 6: wouldn't play this week, but to play next week and 558 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 6: to play a physical style of football and be all 559 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 6: over the field without having any mishaps. I just think 560 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 6: would be too much of a task to go in there. 561 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 6: This is just too physical of a game to not 562 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 6: play all year and then to come in there and 563 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 6: expect to make plays on a defense that has been 564 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 6: playing pretty well throughout the entire season. That's just a lot. 565 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 6: But if anybody could handle it, his mind could handle it. 566 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 6: I mean, he's obviously very smart, very witty. He'd get 567 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 6: on that same page. He's played in the defense before. 568 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean it's hard to that would 569 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: be a hard that'd be a tall task. I mean, 570 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: there's assuming certain like him in shape for us, right, 571 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: so that. 572 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 6: He's in shape because he's working out at Landau every morning. Okay, 573 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 6: that's not a problem. But hitting somebody is a different thing. 574 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 6: Isn't hit anybody in almost a full calendar year. 575 00:27:54,560 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: That we I mean, just trying to be accurate. Yeah, 576 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: you're right, I don't know. 577 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: Allegedly, Yeah, no training camp, Yeah, I mean he got 578 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: the best of it. No training camp. 579 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 3: I hear. 580 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: You guys want out of training camp every year if 581 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: you can. 582 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: Hey, the best year, best year I ever had, numbers wise, 583 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 3: I uh I injured my knee in a basketball game. 584 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: I fibbed a little bit because I had a clause 585 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 3: in my contract that I could not play basketball. 586 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: Would you say, would you say that? 587 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 3: I said, I stepped in a hole running so at 588 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 3: a knee spring, So I missed the entire preseason. Last 589 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 3: preseason games, they said, hey, you got to play, otherwise 590 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 3: we're going to put you on in reserve. I managed 591 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: to play and taped up the knee. Had had one 592 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: of my best years statistically in that year. 593 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: Now, I don't know. I don't know if there's any 594 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: correlation or not. 595 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: I agree with what Benny said in terms of it 596 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 3: being the tall task. Justin is such a smart player, 597 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 3: and he's he's gifted athletically, He's he's never been like 598 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 3: a big hitter. He's the guy that would tackle you, 599 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: which is the most important thing, you know, for safety play. 600 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: But I think it would be a long shot to 601 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 3: bring him in at this point and expect that he could, 602 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 3: you know, contribute in a meaningful way. 603 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: Would you I mean, even consider I'm raw hypotheticals here, 604 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: even as depth is he even as a guy that 605 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: would be sort of break glass in case of emergency 606 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: because the learned her Yell also left the game injured. 607 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: That didn't look good either. 608 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: No, no, so I to bring him in for the 609 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: practice squad. Yeah, that's that's kind of my mindset. 610 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 6: If Justin was moving around well enough, next week, yeah 611 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 6: you dress him, but you got to be on the 612 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 6: same page. And I would be testing him mentally, like, hey, 613 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 6: I'm throwing all the formations at him, and let's see 614 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 6: what he can. 615 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: Let's see what he understands. 616 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 6: He obviously's watching the games, So I think, you know, yeah, 617 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 6: it just really just depends on how they feel and 618 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 6: how Sean really feels about signing him, and. 619 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: Well then which is also its own own kind of hurdle. 620 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's I think the bigger one. But yeah, 621 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: I just wonder and maybe at this point in the year, 622 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: maybe there's a bit of a distraction factor, even if 623 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: you're not starting him, just bringing him into the building 624 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: and then all the questions and everybody and PJ Lock 625 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: is now like all right, great, you know, I don't. 626 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: Think the league worries about that. I don't think teams 627 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 3: would worry about that. Yeah, I don't think there would 628 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 3: be a distraction there. 629 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: I think you would know. PJ. Lock would know, and 630 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: also the team would know why he's there. And I 631 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: think that would be Hey. I think it was signaling, Hey, 632 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: we have a real shot at this thing. 633 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 6: We need all hands on deck, and we need somebody 634 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 6: who has all pro experienced, Pro Bowl experience that can 635 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 6: fill in if needed. 636 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: All Right, we'll talk about Monday Night football coming up. 637 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: Next to thank a veteran, active military member or first 638 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: responder with twenty five hundred dollars through February first some 639 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: of your nomination name and they're deserving reason for twenty 640 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars at Kawaclorado dot com slash contest. It's 641 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: the Heroes Thing Thank You, present up by Common Spirit 642 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: Health and Fix. The twenty four seven we were talking 643 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: about the Joe Burrow reported trade just for a moment. 644 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: Out of Schefter said yesterday that the Miami Dolphins had 645 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: offered four first round picks to go get Joe Burrow 646 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: the year he's coming out of LSU. Would four first 647 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: round picks be the right price to trade for a 648 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: quarterback like that? Are you staring at me like that? No? 649 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 3: I was waiting. I was waiting for you to finish 650 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 3: your thoughts on your face. I was thinking about the 651 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 3: foods you're going to encounter at your party. 652 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 2: You're going to. 653 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: Tonight's finger food. 654 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: No. 655 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: Four, Yes, it is nothing wrong with a sticky back either. 656 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 3: Four first round draft choices seems excessive to me for 657 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 3: anybody agreed, anybody? 658 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: I had not heard that, Yeah, it was. 659 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: It was a weird deal yesterday. How many people come 660 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: out with stories that, I mean, that happened five years ago. 661 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: What's the point of bringing that up. There's gotta be 662 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: a reason, right, Why would I see the light of 663 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: day five years later. 664 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 6: I wouldn't trade for a first round picks for somebody 665 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 6: who hasn't played yet. Two yes, but four? 666 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, if a team was going to trade for Joe 667 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: Burrow right now, what do you think it would cost? 668 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 3: It would depend on which team, obviously depending on draft position, 669 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 3: but I would say more than likely it would be 670 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: two or three first round picks a player, and maybe 671 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 3: swapping draft choices lower than first round. 672 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like if Cincinnati is truly in the 673 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: well we're going to be rebuilding after this, you'd want 674 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: three firsts. I probably wouldn't take less than that. I mean, 675 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson got three firsts for crying O A loud 676 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: and he was under investigation. Did I say that wrong? 677 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to show. 678 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 2: I'm not going to look at you like look. Can't 679 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: split it out, you gotta swallow it. That's right. 680 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: Well, Benny, thank you for hanging out with us today. Man, 681 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: appreciate you having me. Man, it's good to see you guys. 682 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you and your family. Same to you. 683 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Dave, save you. I appreciate it. Grant, great 684 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: job as always, BCT Next