1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Ale Griffin, as we start the 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: wrap up of a week. 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 3: What a week it was. 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: Anyone who lives in the New England area, for that matter, 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: anyone who lives I think anywhere in the United States 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: of America knows what a horrific seven days we have 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: just endured in this region, beginning with last Saturday's Saturday 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: afternoons cold blooded murder of two Brown University undergraduates and 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: the seriously wounding of upwards of a dozen others, six 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: of whom are still dealing with their injuries and are hospitalized. 12 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: A couple who were in critical condition have been upgraded. 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: And it begins to look as if the only two 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: people who will have lost their lives were killed almost 15 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: instantaneously last Saturday afternoon. A manhunt began Saturday night, on 16 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon, and on Monday we heard about the murder, 17 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: a separate murder in a different state in Brookline, of 18 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: a doctor, a very influential professor. I should say at 19 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: m I T just just a waste and we none 20 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: of us, I don't think too many of us instinctively 21 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: would have linked these two these two incidents, separated as 22 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: they were by the distance between providence in Brookline, Massachusetts, 23 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: but the killing and professor Nuno Lurero, who was a 24 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: born in Portugal, did his undergraduate work in Portugal and 25 00:01:54,440 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: did his graduate work in physics in England and now 26 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: was teaching at m I T and was the head 27 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: of several departments at m I T at least a 28 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: couple of departments in m I T h And for 29 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: most of the week, certainly through Wednesday, it appeared as 30 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: if whoever had done these deeds, and we weren't sure 31 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 2: if it was one person or if it was more 32 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: than one person, they remained at large and people were terrified, 33 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 2: terrified in Rhode Island, understandably terrified, some in Massachusetts in Brookline, 34 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: and yesterday we began to understand that this this activity 35 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: had spread not only from Rhode Island into Massachusetts, but 36 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: now into New Hampshire and today in New Hampshire. 37 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: The autopsy on the. 38 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: This this madman's there's just no other way to describe him. 39 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be kind to him and say 40 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: the deceased know this madman. He he apparently committed suicide 41 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: on Tuesday. He didn't even have the decency. Claudio Manuel 42 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: Nevius Valenti of Valenti didn't have the decency if he 43 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: had simply called and said, look, I'm I'm killing myself. 44 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: You'll be able to find me in this storage area, 45 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: this storage warehouse in Salem, New Hampshire. You know, sorry 46 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: for the inconvenience, but I'm moving on. 47 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: Uh. 48 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: It would have saved a lot of aggravation and a 49 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: lot of anxiety. 50 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 3: But he didn't. 51 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: The coward that he was took his own life in 52 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: this storage facility. I discovered last night some great police 53 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: work helped helped by civilians, including the crazy part of 54 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: the story is that there was this fellow who's a 55 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: twenty ten is I understand that graduate of Brown University 56 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: who is homeless apparently I'm not sure what work he does, 57 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: but he somehow interacted with this shooter last Saturday before 58 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: the murders. He got into an argument with a very 59 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: dangerous individual, not knowing what a dangerous individual that person was, 60 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: but that individual came forward. He didn't come forward immediately. 61 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: He came forward after his picture was distributed by the 62 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: authorities down there as a person who they wanted to 63 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: talk to. They never categorized him as a person of interest, 64 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: and he had the license plate number, he had the 65 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: make of the car, which then led them to the 66 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: property the rental company that had rented the car to 67 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: the killer. They then had clear and clean pictures of 68 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: the killer and it just opened up the investigation. As 69 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: a matter of fact, the the Attorney General down in 70 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: Rhode Island said that this individual, he himself, was the 71 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: one that blew the investigation open. Now, there was a 72 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 2: big news conference last night. We played a lot of 73 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: it for you. I'd like to play some of the 74 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: sound from the US Attorney, Lea Foley. We invited the 75 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: US attorney to join us tonight for a few minutes, 76 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: but I think she's probably a little overwhelmed with the 77 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: number of media requests that she has. So this is 78 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: a little bit of her news conference from last night, 79 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: which I thought she, as the one person at the 80 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: news conference, did a much more effect and clear explanation 81 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: of what is, what happened, what transpired then the multi 82 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: person news conference down in Rhode Island, but that was 83 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: their style down here. This is the US attorney from Massachusetts, 84 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: Leah Foley, talking last night about how this all came together. 85 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: Cut one, please Rob. 86 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 4: This is what we learned during this multi jurisdictional investigation. 87 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 4: Nis Valente studied at Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, 88 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 4: on an F one visa around two thousand to twenty 89 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 4: twenty one. He eventually obtained legal permanent residence status. Previously, 90 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 4: he attended the same academic program as the MIT professor 91 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 4: Nuno Louriero in Portugal between nineteen ninety five and two thousand. 92 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: Now, I think. 93 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: It's pretty clear to draw this connection. I mean, it's 94 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: a factual connection. We will never know because the cowardly 95 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: killer took his own life apparently on Tuesday. If he 96 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: had had a personal vendetta, clearly in a vendetta against 97 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: the forty seven year old professor to the extent that 98 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: he killed him in the foyer of the professor's home 99 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: on Monday night. It's he lived. He was a resident 100 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: of Florida. Tonight, in one of the nightly newscasts, I 101 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: saw he lived in a rented in a very impressive 102 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: looking house in Florida, And of course the neighbors always 103 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: had the same reaction. 104 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: He seems seemed like a gentle guy, just saw a 105 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: mountain the yard, he'd wave and say hello. 106 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: You know, no one ever says we knew he was 107 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: a nutjob, and we're not surprised by this. It's always 108 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: amazing in America when when someone just loses it, everybody 109 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: describes him it's a wonderful. He was a wonderful man. 110 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: He helped me take out the trash barrels. This again, 111 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: is US attorney Leo Foley yesterday talking a little bit 112 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: about his background. Cut one a rum. 113 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 4: Although nives Blente appeared to reside in Florida between November 114 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 4: twenty six and November thirty of this year, he rented 115 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: a hotel room in Boston. On December first, he rented 116 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 4: a great Nissan CenTra with Florida plates from a car 117 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 4: rental agency in Boston. That same day, he drove to 118 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 4: the vicinity of Brown University, where his car was observed 119 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: intermittently between December first and December twelfth. 120 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: This guy, you know, planned it, deliberately, decided he was 121 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: going to take vengeance on students who he had never met. 122 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: He must have had and this was a classroom that 123 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 2: he probably as a student in the year academic year 124 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 2: two thousand to two thousand and one, probably spent a 125 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: lot of time in that classroom before he actually decided 126 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: to withdraw from the SKO, and within about a year 127 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: after that he took a leave of absence. Strike that, 128 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: he took a leave of absence in the spring of 129 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: two thousand and one, and then a year or so 130 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 2: later he withdrew from the school, never achieving the doctorate 131 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: in physics that he aspired to. 132 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 3: So a lot of. 133 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: Anger must have percolated within this guy system for a 134 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: long time, and the commonality, obviously is his academic career. 135 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: That is where, in my opinion, the motive lies. He 136 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: took it out on the people who just happened to 137 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: be at a study group in that room, and he 138 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: must have waited for them, and then of course he 139 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: took it out on this professor. We don't know if 140 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: they were friends in Portugals. We probably will find out 141 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: at some point. But such a waste, such a way, 142 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: and then he kills himself. It makes there's nothing that 143 00:09:59,160 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: makes sense about it. 144 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 5: This. 145 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: We can come up with a motive, we can figure 146 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: out what he you know, what probably motivated will never 147 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: know from him. 148 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: He's dead. 149 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: It's just too bad that he didn't kill himself about 150 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 2: two months before this, before he killed other innocent people. 151 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: Very frustrating to think that people like this live amongst us. 152 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 2: We're constantly told by public officials if you see something, 153 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 2: say something, and then if you say something and someone 154 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: is offended by it, then you become criticized for having 155 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: said something in the first place. But it's this week 156 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: was as troubling a week to me that I can 157 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 2: remember since the Boston Marathon bombing. Obviously, the magnitude of 158 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: the Boston Marathon bombing and the number of people impacted 159 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: by it directly as a multitude of. 160 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 3: What this was. 161 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 2: But to think that someone was within our midst and 162 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: basically had a list, had a hit list, didn't have 163 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: the names of the student that he killed at Brown. 164 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 2: He just went into that room to try to kill 165 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: as many as he could. But he certainly knew who 166 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: the professor was that he killed, and he knew that 167 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: he was going to take his own life. The only 168 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: lines open right now is six one seven, well, six 169 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: one seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty, But the is 170 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: our regular line that's full. The line that has opened 171 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: six one seven are the lines that are opened six 172 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: one seven, nine, three, ten thirty. I would like to 173 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: ask all of you to become there's nothing we can 174 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: do about this. I don't think there's a thing we 175 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: can do about this, but it's just it is such 176 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: a waste. I don't know if we'll ever know if 177 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: this guy had ever threatened this professor, but this professor's 178 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: was a husband and. 179 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: A dad of three kids. A lot to talk about. 180 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: Let's work our way through this and then we'll get 181 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 2: a little more positive. In the eleven o'clock hour tonight, 182 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: my name's Dan Ray. I'm upset about this. I'm I'm 183 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: really upset about it. I know how much my friends 184 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: talked about it. I know how family members talked about it. 185 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: This is not the way things are supposed to happen 186 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:16,479 Speaker 2: in people's lives, particularly to this professor and his family's. 187 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: It's inexplicable. That's the only word that I can describe. 188 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: How could this guy hold the bile in his system 189 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: for twenty years and then act as he did this 190 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: week in a place that he probably hasn't been in 191 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: twenty years. Back on Nightside. 192 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: After This Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio, there's. 193 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: A story that I've just seen which is out of Australia. 194 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: Australia of course had that horrific beach shooting on Bondi 195 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: Bandai Beach. But this story in this Australia outlet news 196 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: dot com dot au for Australia out of Sydney, Australia quotes. 197 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 3: Quotes. 198 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: The Portuguese media outlet Espresso reported that Valente from Tauris, 199 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 2: Torres Novas in central Portugal attended Lisbon's is s T 200 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: Institution at the same time as professor Loreiro. They were 201 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 2: classmates and Valenti was the top student that year. Valenti 202 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: was the top student that year. Most this is a 203 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: quote now from the president. Most classmates have no memory 204 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: of the student Claudio Valente, other than the fact that 205 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: he was the best in the class that year. I 206 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 2: s T President Ruggierio Colocco told the outlet. By contrast, Lorrero, 207 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: who taught nuclear science and engineering as well as physics 208 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: at m I T, maintained links with is HE institution 209 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 2: professors boy I had not heard that before. David in 210 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 2: Jamaica plane, Hey, David, welcome here first this hour in 211 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: night side. 212 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 6: Thank you, Dan. I mean it is so incredibly bizarre. 213 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 6: I mean, as a criminal profiler or behavioral analysts, how 214 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 6: could you ever make that you could have never put 215 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 6: the linkage together to get to this man. You know, 216 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 6: you must agree. 217 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 7: How bizarre is that that this guy he. 218 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 6: Just snapped and became a killer? 219 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 7: It just wow. 220 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 221 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: Well, the thing is that first a couple lessons. One 222 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: none of us have promised tomorrow, and we all know 223 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: that we could be hit by a bus tomorrow. You can, 224 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: you know, you can have a major medical issue, so 225 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: lives change. No one's guaranteed anything, But no one could 226 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: have ever anticipated that Professor Lorero would die this way. 227 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: I mean you and and and at the he ends 228 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: of a classmate. And this this Portuguese media outlet Tonight 229 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: is reporting that Valente was the top student in the class. Now, 230 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: if he was the top student in the class, and 231 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: let us say that his life just didn't go the 232 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: way he had expected. Uh, maybe that was the source 233 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: of his jealousy, his frustration, his anger that finally just 234 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: built up, built up and built up and and and 235 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: broke open last week. I mean, the connection, obviously is 236 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: his academics have haunted him. Uh, you know, his his 237 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: his his academics in Portugal and his failure failure at Brown. 238 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: I mean, he must have been a smart guy to 239 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: have been admitted to a doctoral program at Brown University. 240 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 8: I just it, just it continues to. 241 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 6: Amaze me that they could connect all the dots and 242 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 6: get to this man and the idea that he did. 243 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: Wait a second, hold on, I don't think I'm amazed 244 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: that they got to him, because when you think about it, 245 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: the guy that he had the beef with, whose picture 246 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: was publicized I guess it might have been on Monday, 247 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: came forward and explained that he had a beef with 248 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: this guy. The guy who was who he had the 249 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: beef with is at nineteen as a twenty ten graduate 250 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: of Brown University, as was reported, who was living in 251 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: the basement of this building, and apparently he first bumped 252 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: into him in the men's room. 253 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 6: And well, how much irony, how much, how much irony 254 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 6: is involved. 255 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: It's unbelievable, It's unbelievable. 256 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how many how many Ivy 257 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: League colleges provide housing, whether they realize it or not, 258 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: for for people who have graduated in their program and 259 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 2: now find themselves to be homeless. And then but he 260 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: had the wherewithal He apparently had some either photograph of 261 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: the car. Maybe he followed this guy back and they 262 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: had an argument, and finally the guy turned to him 263 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: at some point and said, why are you harassing me? 264 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 2: This is what the killer had the audacity to say 265 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: to the guy. He's about to kill people, and he's 266 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 2: he's protesting that that that he's being harassed. 267 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 3: The guy should have heard housed him. 268 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 6: I think that I think that when you kill people. 269 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 6: I was very upset that they did not announce the 270 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 6: names of those poor souls that got murdered and got killed. 271 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 6: You know, they just they did They didn't, They didn't, 272 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 6: you know, they didn't initially, David. 273 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: They hold on, They always hold on something like that 274 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: until the family, the at least the immediate family has 275 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: been notified. I mean, this is a girl from Alabama, uh, 276 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 2: and a and a man, a woman from Alabama and 277 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 2: a man from Uzbekistan. Now you're not gonna, probably on 278 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 2: a Saturday afternoon, have. 279 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 3: Those numbers on, you know, on your. 280 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 2: Cell phone, so they never want you know. Obviously the 281 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 2: parents might have heard this has been a shooting at Brown, 282 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: but most people are gonna say, oh my god, but 283 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 2: I'm sure my child will be okay. Well, they have 284 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: to notify people before they can release names. That's that's 285 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: why any delay that was involved. 286 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 6: That you're referring well, I mean you're talking and two 287 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 6: and three days later they were still referring them as 288 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 6: but you know that's not here or there. But I Dan, 289 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 6: how do you like you? You're very emotion You're so 290 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 6: connected to the society and community. It is so heartbreaking, 291 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 6: and for you to get on the rate to talk 292 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 6: about it, I don't. I thank you for for continuing 293 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 6: to present to help us cope. 294 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate, hope, I appreciate that. I think that's 295 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: a role that we can play tonight. And I want 296 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: to here from as many people. We're going to talk 297 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: about this until eleven o'clock. There's not nothing. What else 298 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: am I going to talk about tonight? 299 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 3: Uh? 300 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 2: You know the Patriots chance to beat the Ravens on 301 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: Sunday night, that's from the weekend. I want to I 302 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: want to help people move past this tonight, not to 303 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 2: forget it, but to but to say, look, Honikah, we're 304 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: celebrating Honkkah. Uh with all of this horrific activity events. Uh, 305 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: and we're about to go into Christmas. So David, I 306 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 2: appreciate your call. 307 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 7: I appreciate you. 308 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 6: Can I can, I jan can I say one more thing? 309 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: Sure? Go ahead? 310 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 6: I I I just think that speaking about Honiker in 311 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 6: the Jewish community, I don't think this Mandani is ever 312 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 6: going to be able to put a staff together. Every 313 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 6: person he's going to appoint, they're gonna dig into their history, 314 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 6: just like this person that had all of that angry 315 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 6: rhetoric about you. I don't think he's gonna appear to 316 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 6: put a staff together because every person he appoints, they're 317 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 6: gonna find something in their history that they're in angry, 318 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 6: anti Semitic. You know, I I just watched this watch. 319 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: Remember remember, just remember this, David. 320 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: The people of New York I believe made a mistake 321 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: in electing someone like Mamdani. I made that pretty clear. 322 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: I think you know how I feel about that. But 323 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: now the people of New York have sort of made 324 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: their bed and they're gonna have to deal with it 325 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 2: for four years. So let's wish you. Let's wish it 326 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: the best. Thanks so much, David. 327 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 6: Bless God, Bless America. 328 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 2: Couldn't agree with you more in that one. God bless America. 329 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: Thanks David. We'll take a quick break for the news 330 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: at the bottom of the hour six one seven, two four, 331 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 2: ten thirty. We have one line at six one seven, 332 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty as well. Let's light these 333 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 2: lines up. Love to hear from as many of you 334 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: as possible. How do we move past this? We moved 335 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 2: past the marathon bombing, obviously, we never have forgotten that. 336 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 2: But we have to move on with our lives, and 337 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 2: we also have to take a lesson, and one of 338 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: the lessons I think is we have to be more 339 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: observant and we have to be prepared. I just so 340 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: wish that that fellow who had had the interaction with 341 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: this guy, he must have sensed a problem, and I'm 342 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: sure the police have talked with him. It's too bad 343 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: that he did not summon the police that night and 344 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: found I mean, you never know. I mean, this guy 345 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: could have flipped out right in front of the police 346 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 2: and some lives would have been saved. But look, what's 347 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 2: past his past. We kind of do it. Thank God 348 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 2: that they weren't more people murdered. And as they say, 349 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 2: he was a coward to go take his own life. 350 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 2: But maybe you've got to give him some credit that 351 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: he didn't kill even more. 352 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. 353 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: We'll be back on Night's. I'd feel free to join 354 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 2: the conversation. It's so Friday night. It has been a 355 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: crazy week here in New England. Uh, those of you 356 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: who live around the country, this story has been just 357 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: the only story that has been dominant here in New England. 358 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: And I want to try to deal with it tonight 359 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 2: and give people a chance to emote on and talk 360 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: about it, say what they want about it, and then 361 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: let's move into the let's finish honikah, and let's get 362 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: into the Christmas season and and move move past the MPI. 363 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: As a friend of mine say, it's coming back on Nightside. 364 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on wb Boston's news radio. 365 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: All right, let's keep rolling here. We're gonna go next 366 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: to Daniel in New Hipshire. Daniel, you are next on Nightside. 367 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 5: A good evening. Dan comments here on the Brown University shooter. 368 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 5: It seems like it was just an isolated incident, like 369 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 5: a Caine and Enable type of story, rather than organized crime. 370 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, it was not organized crime. 371 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: But it might have been an isolated incident, but it 372 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: was a horrific isolated incident for the two people who 373 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 2: were killed and the dozen or so who were badly wounded. 374 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 5: Right, uh and uh he it's the way it ended 375 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 5: and ended with him dying in a self storage space. 376 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 5: And what when you hear the news and sometimes you 377 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 5: hear the news of like U haul trucks, people using 378 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 5: a U haul truck as a as to run over 379 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 5: people and things like that, and you know, I haven't. 380 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: Haven't you know, Daniel, Daniel, do me a favorite way 381 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: I Daniel, Daniel, listen to me, please. I haven't heard 382 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 2: of anybody being run over intentionally by U haul truck. 383 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what you're talking about there, but look, 384 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: there are people amongst us who are not who are 385 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 2: a little off kilter. 386 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 5: But there is, but there is, there is, there is 387 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 5: like well, let's say, like h I threatening Ivy League 388 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 5: schools with bomb threats. You hear news like you know, 389 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 5: people threatening schools to do something, and that's a school. 390 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 5: When that happened to Brown University. You know, Harvard has 391 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 5: been on the news a lot with the protest. 392 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: So what you're playing, what's your point. 393 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 5: Maybe the only point I have there. That's the only 394 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 5: connection that I would have with something that is more 395 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 5: than just a nice elated incident. Since he was I 396 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 5: don't know what type of gunna use, but it seemed 397 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 5: like to have to injure twelve people, you have to 398 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 5: have some type of sophisticated machine, and obviously the guy 399 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 5: knew how to use the rifle too. 400 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 2: I don't think it was a rifle, Daniel. I hate 401 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: to disappoint you. I don't think it was a rifle. 402 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 2: I think that it was a It's been described as 403 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 2: a handgun, and you can do a lot of damage 404 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: when you walk into a room people are sitting down 405 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 2: and you announce that you're abou to fire, or you 406 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 2: don't even make an announcement and you fire. It's like 407 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 2: shooting fish in a barrow. And uh, it's it's amazing 408 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: that there were more people killed or badly injured at 409 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: that point. He was then able to walk out. I 410 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: mean it, it had to be a horrible situation, Daniel. 411 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: I I appreciate your call, but I got a I 412 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 2: got Daniel. Daniel, I'm a little tight on time here, 413 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: and I think you called me last night which is good. Uh, 414 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: but you're supposed to leave it to one a week, 415 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: so we'll talk next week. And I appreciate you call 416 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: and you have a great weekend. Okay, thanks Daniel. Well 417 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 2: let me go next to ramone, ramone in Lexington. Ramone 418 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: let next on Knightsaga, right ahead. 419 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 8: How you doing. Uh yeah, my condolences to all the 420 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 8: all the lost, the lost ones, you know, very very bad. 421 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 8: But uh, the way I was looking at it, I mean, 422 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 8: you know this this two individuals, uh, foreigners you know, 423 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 8: and I mean you know, making it to the US, 424 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 8: it's just a one step you know what I mean, 425 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 8: you still got to make it once you're year. 426 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: So you talk about remote remote. Let me just make 427 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 2: sure I underso what you're saying. You're saying two individuals 428 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: were foreigners. In effect, there were three because one of 429 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: the victims was a student from Uzbekistan. 430 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 3: He was here as a first year student. 431 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: The killer was here I believe as a as a 432 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: as a as aid he was here as a resident, 433 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: as a legal resident, but he was from Portugal and 434 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: the professor who he killed, the other guy killed, was 435 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: also here from Portugal. 436 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 8: So correct. But what I'm saying there if they were 437 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 8: really really you know, like you know, they were taking 438 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 8: they were both in physics. I mean it looked like 439 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 8: maybe they had a fallout once once they got here. 440 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 8: I mean one found success and the other one didn't. 441 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 8: You know, it could probably because of that. 442 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, there there's no proof of that. We do. 443 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 2: What we do know is this, let's let's try to 444 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: stick for the moment with what we do. 445 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 8: And they attend to No, it will just be thinking 446 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 8: that you don't understand. 447 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 3: Well, let me work with you. Let me work with you. 448 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: They went to the same school in Lisbon in Portugal 449 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: from nineteen ninety five to two thousand and there was 450 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: a report tonight from a statement out of that school 451 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: that the guy that was the killer was the number 452 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 2: one student in the class. Now, was he jealous of 453 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 2: the success that if he was the number one student 454 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: in the class, was he jealous of the success of 455 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: the professor from mit who he killed. I guess you 456 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 2: might begin to look at that, But it's twenty years ago. 457 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 2: How do you hold the grudge for twenty years? That's 458 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 2: a long time. 459 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 7: Twenty five years ago. 460 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 8: And the way we live in today, I mean, everybody 461 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 8: has a lot of pressure but to go ahead and 462 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 8: do that, I mean night. You know, maybe he was 463 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 8: expecting him to take him along with him, you know, 464 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 8: I mean that that guy he had his dreams made, 465 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 8: you know, and you know, and that's good. That's what 466 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 8: you come here to the US for you you want 467 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 8: to make it. 468 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was living in a from a picture I 469 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 2: saw tonight, he was living in a would look like renting, 470 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 2: but living in a very nice home in Florida. Some 471 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 2: of his neighbors said, oh, he was a quiet guy 472 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 2: and all of that. But I just it just seems 473 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: to me that during the course of our lives, all 474 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 2: of us, we run into people who we just don't, 475 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: you know, get along with. You know, you just I'm 476 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: sure there are people who you've worked with or went 477 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: to school with, and you know it just they weren't 478 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 2: you're a cup of tea. 479 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 8: How they determined the time of death of the guy 480 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 8: at that. 481 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: They're now saying, yeah, I have an answer for that question. 482 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: I got a lot of you got some good questions 483 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: and I got some answers. The autopsy was conducted in 484 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 2: New Hampshire today. His body was found last night and 485 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: the autopsy UH concluded that he died and they can 486 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: only approximate it on the fifteenth, which would have been 487 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think the fifteenth of the sixteenth. I 488 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: think they said Tuesday he killed He killed the professor 489 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: on Monday night, and so it's conceivable that that he 490 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 2: drove to New Hampshire and killed and you know, went 491 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: into this storage. 492 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 3: Unit and killed himself there. That's where his body was found. 493 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 2: And because you know, because of the decomposition of the body, 494 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: the autopsy officials in New Hampshire was a concluded. 495 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. 496 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 8: No, I asked that because I was watching the interview 497 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 8: about you know, how they were checking this guy down. 498 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 8: I you know, I was wondering if he just you 499 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 8: know that they said at some point that they they 500 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 8: had information, they had not put it out yet, and 501 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 8: I wondered up to be did that will put the 502 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 8: pressure on the guy? 503 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 3: Well, he probably knew he had a lot of pressure 504 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 3: on him. 505 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: And if he did decide to kill himself on today's 506 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 2: the nineteenth, So if if their conclusion is he killed 507 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: himself Monday, he probably drove directly to New Hampshire and 508 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: killed himself sometime before midnight. They were very specific. That's 509 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: what that's what the autopsy revealed late today, that he 510 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: had killed himself. Yeah, well it said, excuse me, strike 511 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: that for a second. The autopsy report released today said, 512 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: this showed the suspect that's estimated to have died on Tuesday, 513 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: December sixteenth. Obviously he died after he killed the professor. 514 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: And if he went, if he went to New Hampshire 515 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: and slept on it or whatever and got up in 516 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: the morning, who knows. Such a waste, a waste all around, 517 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: and a waste that was inflicted upon innocent people, those 518 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: student so he killed and who he wounded, he didn't. 519 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 3: Know who they were. 520 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: I don't know how well he knew the professor, but 521 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 2: obviously he harbored a grudge against that professor who he 522 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: had gone to school with uh in Lisbon in Portugal 523 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: in the late nineteen nineties, and he harbored that and 524 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: he acted upon it. 525 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 3: Ramon, thank you so much for your call. 526 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 8: Thank you for taking my call. 527 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 3: This is your first time call it. By the way, 528 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 3: is this your first time calling? 529 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 8: No, no, I was poled before. 530 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 3: We'll keep calling. 531 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 8: Thank you very much for you all right, Thank you. 532 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 2: Have a merry Christmas. If you celebrate Christmas, you too, Okay, 533 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: thanks much. I got to take a break. I got 534 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: some open lines, which was always discouraging. 535 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 3: This is a big story. 536 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,959 Speaker 2: Your thoughts on this from whatever perspective you want six one, seven, two, five, four, 537 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: ten thirty or six one, seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. 538 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: This story, I'm sure we'll fade in the minds of 539 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: most of us, just as the Boston Marathon bombing has faded. 540 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 2: The anger, the fear that all of us felt back 541 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: then didn't last forever. We move on with our lives. 542 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 2: We will turn the page on twenty twenty five in 543 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: about a little less than two weeks, and we'll be 544 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,479 Speaker 2: off to twenty twenty six. But I think it's important 545 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: to talk about this tonight, and I hope you'll join me. 546 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 2: We will talk about it till eleven me with you 547 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: or me alone, it doesn't matter, and then we will 548 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: do a twentieth hour at eleven o'clock tonight. My name 549 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: is Dan Ray, coming right back on Nightside. 550 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: It's nice Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio. 551 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 3: Oh get us go to Alex and Millis Alex next on. 552 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,719 Speaker 9: Nightside, Go right ahead, Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. 553 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 9: How to do it a great I was gonna say, 554 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 9: you know how tragic this is. And my couple of questions, 555 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 9: what was this guy doing, you know to you know, 556 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 9: he was planning this out, He must have needed money. 557 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 9: How was he getting along financially? And then everybody hates AI. 558 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 9: But because of AI, there's a company called I think Flock. 559 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 9: If I'm not mistaken, they're able to track down, you know, 560 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 9: the type of vehicle, the color, the make, and it 561 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 9: really led to, you know, to a closure. 562 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. As a matter of fact, I'm familiar with that company. 563 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 2: We were we talked about an incident in Cambridge where 564 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 2: they have actually installed some public cameras and many people 565 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: in Cambridge feel those public cambriage cameras are interfering with 566 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 2: their personal privacy. Are there expectation of privacy? I don't 567 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: think when you're walking a public street you have any 568 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: expectation of privacy at all. 569 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 3: The fellow. 570 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, So one of the broadcasts tonight is a good 571 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 2: friend of mine. He is one of the vice one 572 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 2: of the leaders of this group. He's a very smart guy, 573 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: guy named Dan Haley. All right, yeah, and theres of money, Alex, 574 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: I don't know that this guy had gainful occupation. He 575 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 2: was only forty eight years old. They shoot her. The 576 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: man he killed, the professor was forty seven, which is 577 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 2: understandable since they were classmates in college many years ago. 578 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: I have no idea, but he was renting looked like 579 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: a very nice property in Florida. Yeah, I guess he 580 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 2: was found with nine hundred dollars in cash. He died 581 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 2: with nine hundred dollars in cash near him, right, So I. 582 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 9: Was just gonna say real quick, I know this is 583 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 9: not on a topic, but going forward, I think the 584 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 9: new year, I'm starting my resolutions now. And it's the 585 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 9: rule of fifty, which is my rule fifty push ups fifties. 586 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 2: Oh that's good to hear, Alex. You get in shape 587 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: and do me a favor. Keep us posted it because 588 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 2: and when you get down in shape, send us some 589 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: pictures and we'll post them on night side. 590 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 3: Okay, all right? 591 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 9: Do I send him to Cabot Place where. 592 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Cabot Place would be perfect. Yeah, thanks, Alex, talk 593 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: to you soon. Let me go to Rick and Merrimack. 594 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 2: That's fascinating, Alex, Hey Rick next on nights. 595 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 3: I go ahead. 596 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 10: Oh goodness, how could that be so fast? 597 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 8: I get to me. All right, thank you for. 598 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 10: Speaking the subject you're speaking of, did you have a 599 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 10: question of it or well? 600 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, My question is how do we move past it? 601 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 2: What do you think about all of this reck? 602 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 3: I'll give you. 603 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 9: I'll give you an opportunity, all right, give me three seconds. 604 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 10: That's about what I can say is. 605 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 5: We put too much. 606 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: Into this event. 607 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 10: We've had enough events from the past, as you know. 608 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 10: And I'll leave it that and you can throw what 609 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 10: you want from there. 610 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 2: I'm all set Rick if that's If that's what you 611 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 2: like to add. We appreciate your contributions. Thank you very 612 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 2: much for calling. 613 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 8: I thank you for speaking to me. 614 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 2: We have a great night. Let me go to Robert 615 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: and Halifax. Robert, you're next night, right A, Robert, you 616 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 2: gotta I have. 617 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 7: A different concern than your Carls. In nineteen ninety, I 618 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 7: think December eleventh, I was at a school called the 619 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 7: Abraham Lincoln in Boston on Islington Street. Two ninth greaters 620 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 7: get into an argument, Robin L. Reynolds and case Ley at. 621 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 3: Him who those individuals would be? Why you want it? 622 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 2: Why do you want to talk about something that happened 623 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,439 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety It is twenty twenty five. That would 624 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 2: be my calculation proxy thirty five years ago. What relevance 625 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 2: that does that have to do with this irrelatively difficult week. 626 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 7: The irrelevance is this, there could be a coffee cat Renolds 627 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 7: killed this way that down in Norton or Easton. Another 628 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 7: boy walks into a classroom with stabs another kid. 629 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, again, it's a little I would assume those cases 630 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 2: have been investigated pretty thoroughly. To be honest with you, Robert, 631 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 2: it's interesting that you wanted to bring them up tonight. 632 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 2: I don't think that there's there's no indication that there's 633 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 2: any relevance to those cases. 634 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, both the. 635 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 2: Victim and the perpetrator in the killing of the professor 636 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 2: from from Brookline we're living in Portugal and we're about 637 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 2: twelve and thirteen years old at the time. I don't 638 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 2: think that they had ever heard of that story. So, 639 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 2: but thank you for calling an attempting to add to 640 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 2: the conversation. Tonight, we'll talk again. Here comes the news. Okay, 641 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 2: there's three interesting calls in a row. Okay, so we 642 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 2: know about Alex's push ups that and Rick hoped for 643 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 2: some questions I'm really hoping that in the next hour 644 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 2: we're going to improve the quality of calls here. We 645 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 2: did have a couple of good calls earlier. I would 646 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 2: like to hear from you six ONOT seven, two, five, four, 647 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 2: ten thirty. This was a devastating event this weekend. I'd 648 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 2: like to talk about it, and we will move on 649 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 2: after that. But coming back right after the ten o'clock 650 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 2: News joined the conversation, this was a horrific week. I 651 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 2: think we need each other to get through the balance 652 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 2: of this week and get through the weekend and begin 653 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 2: the celebration of Christmas. 654 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 3: Coming back on Nightside,