1 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: The following takes place between seven pm and eight pm. 2 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: All right away we go hour two hour, two seven 3 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: oh eight seven hundred WLW. This is R. L. Carrier 4 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. My next guest. He 5 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: was on the call with Eric Roffman Friday night for 6 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: maybe the game of the year in college basketball, Miami 7 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: beating Ohio one ten one eight in overtime to complete 8 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 2: a perfect regular season at thirty one to o. He's 9 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 2: approaching thirty seasons as a college basketball analyst for ESPN. 10 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: He is the baseball coach at Miami University in Middletown. 11 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: Those Thunderhawks, I think their season starts next Saturday, by 12 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: the way, but uh, let's talk some Miami RedHawks. Let's 13 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: talk some college basketball in the tournament. Let's well come in, 14 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: Mark Adams, how are you Lance? 15 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: Want of day? College basketball in Cleveland, Ohio? Three one 16 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 3: possession games and we're probably headed for a fourth one 17 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: between Katon, Ohio right now. So it's been a fun day. 18 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: Let me have you sort through you you had eyes 19 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: on it today. What was your reaction to Miami's performance 20 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: and ultimate loss to UMass So. 21 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 3: Completely not surprised, you know, I've had the opportunity lance 22 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: to to kind of live with this team a little 23 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: bit over the last couple of weeks. You know, I've 24 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: been to a lot of practices. I've watched them handle 25 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 3: the noise over the last especially a month and a 26 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: half now, where I kind of got to call some 27 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: games the UMass game originally. And you know, I said 28 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: on the air at the Ohio Games in the overtime 29 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: game that this team wasn't the same. Now. It doesn't 30 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: mean that they've done anything wrong or it's just the 31 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: level of noise and the the the volume of it 32 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 3: and the pressure of it. I thought it started the 33 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: show in Athense even before that, even and this team 34 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: finally ran into a juggernaut and UMass. Look, Frank Martin 35 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: knows a little bit something about upsets from South Carolina 36 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: and going to the final fourth, you know, And I 37 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: thought U. Mass was the worst matchup. And I also 38 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: thought it was a mistake by the Mid American Conference 39 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: to have the one seed play an eighth seed. I 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: think that at this level of Kydie basketball, you have 41 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: to reward your regular season champion with a buyer of 42 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 3: the semi finals because it's a metric nightmare to lose 43 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: a game like this. 44 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 2: You know, I'm glad you brought that up. It's a 45 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 2: perfect segue to a question I had prepared to ask you, 46 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: cause I'll jump right to it. By my count, Miami 47 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: is now the ninth regular season champ to losing their 48 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: conference tournament. Why make the case for why the conference, 49 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 2: especially one big conferences should like not grease the skids 50 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: but give their best team over sixteen, eighteen to twenty 51 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: conference games an easier path to winning the conference tournament. 52 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 3: Well, for the money League's lands, the Power five, or 53 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 3: whatever you want to call them, major conferences, it doesn't matter. 54 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: You can go ahead and play a regular a regular bracket. 55 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: You could ladder it also, but it doesn't matter because 56 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: the number eight seed in the Big twelve, their metrics 57 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 3: are going to be somewhere in the fifties or sixties typically, 58 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: But in a mid major conference where you're trying to 59 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: protect your number one seed and look, in a lot 60 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: of conferences they don't have the luxury of the Mid 61 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 3: American conference that has two teams Akron and Miami, who 62 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: on the net are going to be somewhere in that 63 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: you know, forty to fifty to sixty range, somewhere in 64 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 3: that range. Well, when you're a mid American conference or 65 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: a mid major level, you've got to protect your best team. 66 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: You've got to give them the best avenue to the 67 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: NCAA tournament. So I say, well, you're soft. I've heard 68 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: from all these idiots on Twitter about what an idiot 69 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: I am. Okay, and look, they don't have any clue. 70 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: They're in a freaking clue what they're talking about, because 71 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: it comes down the money lance. That's what comes down 72 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: to and the only way you make money in the 73 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: NCAA tournament is if you win. Therefore, you want to 74 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: send your best team to the NCAA Tournament so that 75 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: they have a chance to win, and so that's why 76 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: you give them a buy in the semi finals. The 77 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 3: other thing is typically in a semi final round, maybe 78 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 3: you'll play your fourth team or fifth team in the 79 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: semi finals as a number one seed. Well, those teams 80 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: are going to be at least a more metric friendly game. 81 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 3: Miami basically lost a quad four game today for intensive purposes. 82 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: That doesn't help them with the selection committee, and that's 83 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 3: a strategic mistake by any major that does that. Has 84 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: that type of a format when it comes to bracketing 85 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: for their tournament. 86 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: All right, one of many things I love about you 87 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: your passion, your preparation, and your ability and insight into 88 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: the inner workings, and that includes the ability do not 89 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: shy away from the politics of all this. That's a 90 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: long winded way of leading you to this. How do 91 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 2: you view their standing as an at large bid comes Sunday? 92 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: The bubble stinks and Miami doesn't. How's that for an answer? 93 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: The bubble stinks. I mean, think about this lance. Think 94 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: about the number of press conferences that you've watched of 95 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: high major head coaches who have every advantage in the world. 96 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: They have five times, ten times twenty times more money 97 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 3: than a lot of teams I'm watching today to procure players. 98 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 3: They have five times, ten times twenty times more money 99 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: to procure home games, which ECUs every metric that they 100 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: can buy. They buy home games to skew every metric 101 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 3: in their favor, and they still can't go damn near 102 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 3: a little bit one game over five hundred at a 103 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 3: major conference. Tell me tell me one team right now, 104 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,559 Speaker 3: including Auburn who just walt to Tennessee. Tell me one 105 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 3: team that's on the bubble right now. That doesn't suck. 106 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: And can you imagine if they expand the tournament. 107 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 3: More, that'd be the dumbest thing. Look, one thing about 108 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 3: the NCAA tournament is it's always been an elite athletic event. 109 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: Like great teams go to the NCAA Tournament. We get 110 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: conference champions in the NCAA Tournament. The whole at large thing. 111 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 3: You and I to do a podcast on some time 112 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: of how unfair the scheduling practices are in todge basketball. 113 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 3: I just leave you with this thought, Lance, Is there 114 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: any other international or national governing body that allows teams 115 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 3: to buy home games in order to skw metrics to 116 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: make postseason play? The answer is no. Now, there are 117 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 3: professional teams that allow you to buy players. That's called 118 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 3: the NBA in the NFL, but they actually control scheduling 119 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: of all the members of their organization. Look, I could 120 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: go to the Iranian Soccer Federation. They have a more 121 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 3: fair scheduling process than the NCAA does. Is right? 122 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: Power is you are? 123 00:06:58,520 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 3: Is? 124 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: I allow you to get back to basketball? And so cool? 125 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: You've made time tonight? Tell tell listeners you you studied 126 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 2: the landscape you called so many games this year. Give 127 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: me a team, maybe two that might not be on 128 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: the radar of most listeners right now, but they should 129 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,119 Speaker 2: be aware of in terms of maybe making a little 130 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: noise in the NCAA tournament. Somebody you like that might 131 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: not be like the obvious team that's going to be 132 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: a you know, a top four seed. 133 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I really like Akron, I do. I've 134 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: liked Akron from the beginning. I said that from when 135 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: I first saw them. They're one of the hottest teams 136 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: in the country. They've won like eighteen out of the 137 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: last nineteen. Now. John Gross does a really good job. 138 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: They're very mature team. I just saw four seniors on 139 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: the dais with them, including Tamara Johnson is one of 140 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 3: the most dynamic guards in the country. That's a team 141 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: that really intrigues me because they're big enough, strong enough, 142 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: bad enough, you know, to kind of a little chip 143 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: on their shoulder. And obviously it's a local team that 144 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: I really like. I would have said Belmont, but they're 145 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: not going to make it. You know. They lost another 146 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: one versus eight by the way, you know, talking about 147 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: a bunch of idiots. That's another one that went down 148 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: the drain, you know, for the mid majors. But I 149 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 3: think Akron right now is the one and hopefully, you know, 150 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: they can get through this thing. They got to get 151 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 3: through this thing and win this thing. But I'm gonna 152 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be talking about them on Saturday Night and 153 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: presenting their resume and why they're better than those teams 154 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: that stink that are on the bubble. 155 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: I can't tell you how excited I was when you 156 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: said you could do this this morning. I owe you 157 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: because I have moved you multiple days, multiple time slots, 158 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: and I kept apologizing and the fact you made yourself 159 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: available tonight on the scene of basketball means the world 160 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 2: to me. Thank you. 161 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: It's my pleasure. Lance Listen. You know when I asked 162 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: my wife to dance, I just assumed she'd say no, 163 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 3: But eventually she said yes because I kept trying. So 164 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: I'm on WLW tonight because we just kept trying. 165 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 2: Right there you go, There you go, Thanks Martin joining 166 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: the basketball all right, take care, Thank you, by bye.