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Speaker 1: My name is Mike Petralia trags one more night of

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Speaker 1: filling in for Lance McAllister here on the RNL Carriers

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Speaker 1: sports talk program on News Radio seven hundred WLW. It

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Speaker 1: in just a few moments, it'll be Marshall Kramsky of

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Speaker 1: WCPO Channel nine talking Reds and Bengals. We also might

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Speaker 1: talk about that fabulous Grand Slam tennis tournament down under,

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Speaker 1: We'll probably talk about that a little bit. Then Alex Frank,

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Speaker 1: a good friend of mine from CLNS Sinc dot Com.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk the Bengals, but also the Kentucky Wildcats, who

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Speaker 1: wait to talk to this guest, Travis Steele, the head

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Speaker 1: coach of the undefeated and twenty fourth ranked Miami RedHawks.

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Speaker 1: they are relevant this year. So at seven oh seven,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk with Travis Steele. Coming up at seven thirty seven,

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Speaker 1: it'll be Yanni Tregellis of Channel twelve Local twelve here

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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati talking the Bengals and the upcoming Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and then one of my very favorite guests on this program.

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Speaker 1: He's a frequent appearer. I mean I should say a

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Speaker 1: of course, is Shelby Dermer. We call him no Stradermist

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Speaker 1: Xavier basketball games. He covers the Musketeers for the Cincinnati Inquirer.

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Speaker 1: We'll also talk Australian Open with him. He has you

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Speaker 1: Why is that, Well, that's because he covered the two

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Speaker 1: At that time it was the Western and Southern Open

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Speaker 1: as I did last night with the lovely Debora Ann

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Speaker 1: Marshall Kramsky of Channel nine. We will talk Reds and

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Speaker 1: My name is Mike Petralia and you're listening to sports

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Speaker 1: Talk presented by RNL carriers on news Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: Six Back here on sports Talk presented by RNL carriers

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Speaker 1: on news Radio seven hundred WLW, Mike Petralia trags filling

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Speaker 1: in for Lance McAllister one more night heading into your weekend.

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Speaker 2: See what I did there? Marshall? You like that?

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Speaker 1: Sports Talk RNL carrier Sports Talk on WLW. Marshall, first

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Speaker 3: we don't know, but it just would feel poetic for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, here's the problem, and this is what really

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Speaker 5: But if you're the Bengals and I get.

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Speaker 3: Your in win now, because who knows about Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: Do we know if any of the three players unavailable

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Speaker 1: the Kentucky Wildcats, those three players, it's interesting you mentioned

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Speaker 6: last year through twenty two games, and you'd be six

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Speaker 6: and three in the SEC, and then you can start

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Speaker 6: talking about, okay, can this team get to the top

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Speaker 6: four in the SEC where they're not having to play

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Speaker 6: until Friday of the SEC tournament. That would be I

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Speaker 6: think the conversations we'd be having if.

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Speaker 3: They can go win the Fanville and win.

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Speaker 6: But I'm going to say this, they better be ready

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Speaker 6: to battle, because this Arkansas team gets after it.

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Speaker 4: All.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's enough talk for now on the Kentucky Wildcats.

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Speaker 1: Let's also now talk about the Cincinnati Bengals, and you

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Speaker 1: host a terrific podcast on the Lockdown Network, the Bengals

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Speaker 1: Squad Show. Your reaction to Joe Flacco becoming a Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowler and going to the Pro Bowl Games as a

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Speaker 1: member of the AOFC Squad. I think, and I tweeted

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Speaker 1: this out, I think it's a nice reward the first time.

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Speaker 1: It's hard for me to believe this first time he's

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Speaker 1: ever been selected to the Pro Bowl Games.

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Speaker 6: I could not be more happy for Joe Flacco. We

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Speaker 6: talked about this on the Bengals Squad Show today, Mike,

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Speaker 6: here's a guy who came into a situation that was,

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Speaker 6: let's just say, not the ordinary, and he handled it

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Speaker 6: with nothing but dignity, humility, grace, professionalism, and he did

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Speaker 6: more than he ever needed to do for this football team.

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Speaker 6: The performances that he had against the Steelers on Thursday

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Speaker 6: football the Bears game which I know they lost, the Bengals.

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Speaker 6: But I mean, here is a guy who is forty

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Speaker 6: years old. He gets traded to the Bengals, not much

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Speaker 6: is expected of him, and with an injured right shoulder,

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Speaker 6: he throws for four hundred and seventy yards and nearly

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Speaker 6: leads the Bengals to an improbable comeback. Joe Flacco, whether

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Speaker 6: or not he's here next year and I think he

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Speaker 6: should be, is always going to be fondly remembered by

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Speaker 6: Bengals fans for what he did that for giving them

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Speaker 6: that Again, it didn't last very long, but that feeling

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Speaker 6: of they might actually do something with him, like, that's

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Speaker 6: what he gave the Bengals in a season that was

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Speaker 6: otherwise miserable from the second quarter a week two on.

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Speaker 6: So I could not be more thrilled for him after

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Speaker 6: the situation that he dealt with being traded mid season

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Speaker 6: to an instaate rival and having to warn everything basically

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Speaker 6: on a short week. It's an amazing honor. I could

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Speaker 6: not be more happy for someone who is not only

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Speaker 6: a really good quarterback, but at the same time as

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Speaker 6: an even better man off the field.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we only have a couple of minutes here, Alex,

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Speaker 1: but I want to get your reading. And I'll ask

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Speaker 1: you essentially the same question that I asked Marshall Krafsky.

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Speaker 1: With the cap space that they're going to have at

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Speaker 1: their disposal, where should the priority be, you know, just

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Speaker 1: reading off spot rack, which is usually very very reliable.

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Speaker 1: The cap space, given the sixty one players currently on

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Speaker 1: the Bengals roster is at about fifty four point six

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Speaker 1: million dollars, looking at a cap maximum of three hundred

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Speaker 1: and three million dollars, what do you want to see

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Speaker 1: the Bengals prioritize with that money?

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Speaker 2: Defense? I assume.

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Speaker 6: Safety, and it's plain and simple to me. That was

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Speaker 6: our main topic today on the Bengals Squad Show. And

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Speaker 6: for me, I'll give two reasons. Number one is four

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Speaker 6: years ago today the Bengals beat the Chiefs in the

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Speaker 6: ANFC Championship game. The play that set up the game

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Speaker 6: and drive was a deflective pass by Jesse Bates and

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Speaker 6: Von Bellacher steps it. You had two safeties on your

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Speaker 6: roster that were game changers. I need them to spend

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Speaker 6: money on that. And number two, a game changing safety

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Speaker 6: changes the entire complexity of the defense, and it changes

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Speaker 6: the entire operation of what the opposing offense is trying

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Speaker 6: to do. I grew up as a Bengals fan washing

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Speaker 6: Troy Polamalu and Ed Reed torture Carson Palmer and Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 6: If the Bengals can have somebody like that on their roster,

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Speaker 6: that and make life a living heck for Shador Sanders

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Speaker 6: or whoever the quarterback in Pittsburgh's going to be, or

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Speaker 6: even Lamar Jackson. Please, Duke Tobin and Mike Brown, spend

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Speaker 6: whatever money you need to send to get that game

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Speaker 6: changing safety on this team. Please.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me look at it from a different perspective,

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Speaker 1: and we have a couple of minutes left. Caleb Downs.

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Speaker 1: You say, spend whatever you need to spend in free agency.

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Speaker 1: How about spending whatever draft capital you need to spend

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Speaker 1: in Granted you don't have as many picks this year

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Speaker 1: to I think they have seven picks this season. I

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Speaker 1: have to double check that. But spend the draft capital,

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Speaker 1: do what you need to do to move up and

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Speaker 1: ensure that you get Caleb Downs on the roster. Because

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Speaker 1: only based on what I read and what I talk

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Speaker 1: to in terms of people around the league, Caleb Downs

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Speaker 1: can be a game changer right out of the shoot,

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Speaker 1: just like Kyle Hamilton was for Baltimore. If the Bengals

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Speaker 1: were to do that to me, it would send a signal.

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Speaker 1: And I think Caleb Downs could really transform this defense overnight.

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Speaker 1: Help to do that.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, I agree with you on that front. And if

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Speaker 6: Caleb Downs is available at number ten or if the

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Speaker 6: Bengals do make the trade up to get him, great,

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Speaker 6: But at the same time, it's just do I trust

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Speaker 6: this defensive coaching staff to develop Caleb Downs into the

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Speaker 6: safety because we all think he can't be.

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Speaker 3: That'd be my only worry.

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Speaker 6: And the reason I say safety and free agency is this,

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Speaker 6: If you do what you need to do in free

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Speaker 6: agency and get enough in terms of adequate starters, then

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Speaker 6: your approach and the draft can be what I think

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Speaker 6: we will work best for this organization best player available.

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Speaker 6: So I mean, there's multiple ways you're gonna purchas this Mike.

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Speaker 6: But at the same time, what they did in twenty

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Speaker 6: one in terms of free agents Von Bell and twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty and then in twenty twenty one the defensive guys

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Speaker 6: they brought in it worked, So we'll see what they

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Speaker 6: do this offseason. But I mean the defense, I mean

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Speaker 6: it has to be fixed. And I'll also say that

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Speaker 6: US fix the defensive line get a disrupted one stopper

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Speaker 6: because that can help in the back end.

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Speaker 2: Would agree one hundred percent. We've got to wrap it

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Speaker 2: up here, Alex.

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Speaker 1: Alex Frank of the Bengals Squad show on the Lockdown

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Speaker 1: Bengals Network also covers the Kentucky Wildcats a big game

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Speaker 1: tomorrow on the road at Fayetteville against the Arkansas John

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Speaker 1: Calla Perry's Arkansas Razor Blacks Razorbacks covering the Kentucky Wildcats

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Speaker 1: for US Sea of Blue, Alex, thanks as always. Coming

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Speaker 1: up after news at the top of the hour, it

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Speaker 1: will be my pleasure to sit down and spend a

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Speaker 1: few moments with Travis Steele, head coach of the undefeated

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Speaker 1: and number twenty four Miami RedHawks, talking about the great

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Speaker 1: journey that program has taken from four years ago when

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Speaker 1: he took over the program to where it is now.

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Speaker 1: Travis Steele of the Miami RedHawks. That's coming up after

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Speaker 1: news at the top of the hour. My name is

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Speaker 1: Mike Petralia, and you're listening to Sports Talk presented by

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Speaker 1: RNL carriers on News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 4: The following takes place between seven pm and eight.

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Speaker 1: Pm seven eight back here on Sports Talk presented by

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Speaker 1: RNL carriers on News Radio seven hundred WLW. It will

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Speaker 1: be my pleasure, hopefully in the next few moments, to

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Speaker 1: welcome the Miami RedHawks head coach Travis Steele to the program.

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Speaker 1: We're still waiting on him to call in, so in

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Speaker 1: the meantime, I want to go over what has been

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Speaker 1: just a remarkable season for Miami. They get ready to

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Speaker 1: play at three point thirty tomorrow afternoon the Northern Illinois

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Speaker 1: Huskies up at Mallet Hall in Oxford. If it's anything

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Speaker 1: anything like it was on Tuesday night, it will be

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Speaker 1: a fabulous atmosphere. It'll be a little bit different tomorrow

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Speaker 1: because there's a women's game at one o'clock prior to

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Speaker 1: the three point thirty pm tip off of the men's game,

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Speaker 1: but of course, you know, with the women's game at

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Speaker 1: one o'clock, it'll be just a tremendous build up and

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Speaker 1: everybody will certainly be looking to follow the twenty one

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Speaker 1: to oh nine to oh in the mac Miami RedHawks

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Speaker 1: coming off that eighty six eighty four home win over

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Speaker 1: UMass on Tuesday night, ninety two, twenty three, twenty three.

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Speaker 1: That was the tenth largest crowd in the history of

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Speaker 1: Mallet Hall, which opened back in December of nineteen sixty eight.

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Speaker 1: The crowd for tomorrow's game should exceed it because the

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Speaker 1: tickets are sold out. It is now my pleasure Welcome

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Speaker 1: into the program Sports Talk presented by RNL carriers here

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Speaker 1: on WLW the head coach of the undefeated and number

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Speaker 1: twenty four ranked Miami RedHawks, Travis Steele.

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Speaker 2: How does that sound to you? Travis?

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Speaker 4: It sounds good, but you know it sounds better is

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Speaker 4: twenty two and ol it does?

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Speaker 1: It does, And you made mention of that the other

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Speaker 1: night after the game. Here's what I love about coaches,

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Speaker 1: especially coaches at your level. You're always aware of looking forward,

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Speaker 1: not looking back, on what you guys have done, which

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Speaker 1: is tremendous, I mean, and you acknowledge that. You know

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Speaker 1: what it has meant to the university, know what it's

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Speaker 1: meant for the basketball program and for the fans that

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Speaker 1: follow the basketball program. But it's about can you be

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Speaker 1: playing your best basketball in March and hopefully get to

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Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament. And that is your goal, right that

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Speaker 1: is the goal. In the next five to six weeks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like our goal when I took over

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Speaker 4: here is can we advance into the consitable a tournament,

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Speaker 4: take this place where it's never been before. We've been

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Speaker 4: to Sweet sixteen before several years ago, when when wally'srbiak

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Speaker 4: was here, and can we get this thing that next weekend?

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Speaker 4: And I think I knew, I knew this place had

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Speaker 4: a lot of upside, And when I took it over

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Speaker 4: at a proud tradition, it just happened one in a while.

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Speaker 4: And now we've put ourselves in a good position here

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Speaker 4: to play meaningful basketball games here in February and into March.

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Speaker 4: And so our guys have done a great job of

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Speaker 4: putting ourselves in position.

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Speaker 1: I know you pointed this out after the game the

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Speaker 1: other night, but you remember your first home game against

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Speaker 1: Evansville back in November of twenty twenty two. You could

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Speaker 1: probably count all of the fans in the stands, and

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Speaker 1: that was exched in your memory bank. And I'm just curious,

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Speaker 1: how you know, during the great moments you may how

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Speaker 1: often do you look back on a moment like that

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Speaker 1: and say, this is an example of what hard work

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Speaker 1: can accomplish no matter where it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is the vision that we had,

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Speaker 4: you know, we took it over, is can we create

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Speaker 4: an excitement and a buzz around our program where people

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Speaker 4: would start showing up? And you got to put a

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Speaker 4: product out there that's good enough to get people to

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Speaker 4: show up, right, that's number one. And then our marketing

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Speaker 4: department's done a great job. At my end, you kind

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Speaker 4: of pulling on in the same direction here this year,

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Speaker 4: you know, and getting people excited about our program and

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Speaker 4: to be able to see the amount of students that

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Speaker 4: we had for our game versus UMass this past Tuesday. Man,

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Speaker 4: it was I was shocked when I went out right

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Speaker 4: before the game. I was like, Holy cow, I couldn't

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Speaker 4: believe it how many people were there and specifically students.

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Speaker 4: I had never seen it that way, never heard it

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Speaker 4: that way before as loud as it was during the game,

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Speaker 4: and it is, Man, it's surreal. But it also it

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Speaker 4: just shows you it could be done anywhere, right, if

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Speaker 4: you've got people pulling in the same direction, having the

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Speaker 4: vision they can be done anywhere.

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Speaker 1: What do you think was the biggest lesson? If that's

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Speaker 1: even the way to put it. After you left Xavier.

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Speaker 1: What did you take from your four years at Xavior

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Speaker 1: and how has that helped mold you as a head coach,

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Speaker 1: as a recruiter, all of the things that you have

651
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: to be concerned with as a head coach at a

652
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: Division one program.

653
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think how intentional you have to be with

654
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 4: who you bring into your program. Just from a staff standpoint,

655
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 4: player standpoint. They have to fit your offense, your defense,

656
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 4: they have to fit your core values, they have to

657
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 4: fit your university. There's a lot that goes into it

658
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 4: rather than just talent. Talent's part of the equation, but

659
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: it's not the equation, right, you know, I want guys

660
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 4: that love to compete. I want guys that play for others.

661
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 4: I want guys that have that swagger and understand you

662
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 4: earned a swagger through through embracing the process. Right. And

663
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 4: then the last one is guys that are constantly striving

664
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Speaker 4: for more and never becoming complacent. You know, those are

665
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 4: the things that we looked for when I hired our

666
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 4: staff and when we brought in the young men that

667
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 4: we've been able to bring in. Those are the things

668
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 4: that we've really put a lot of value on, an

669
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Speaker 4: emphasis on, and so the fits really that been here

670
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 4: at Miami for me, from day one, I knew exactly

671
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 4: how I wanted it to look, feel and smell like

672
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 4: our program, and I have not deviated from that and

673
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 4: it's worked really well.

674
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Speaker 1: Speaking with head coach of the undefeated and number twenty

675
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: four ranked Miami RedHawks, Travis Steele, look every program, Travis,

676
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: and you know this has to if it's going to

677
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: get where eventually the coach has a vision of it

678
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: getting has to overcome adversity. And I will say, when

679
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: Evan Ipsorrow went down with the torn ACL you felt

680
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: terrible for the Cubcat star. You felt terrible for him,

681
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: his family, and the team and everybody that follows the program.

682
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: But it was remarkable to me how you guys have

683
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Speaker 1: been able to really I don't know if it's the

684
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: right way of saying it is not miss abeat, but

685
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: you have continued to do what it takes to win games.

686
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: Would you say that's accurate?

687
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 3: Yeah?

688
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: I do. And you know it was gut rinsing when

689
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 4: it happened. You know, I love Evan, Mike, He's my

690
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 4: own son. I'm so proud of him. He was having

691
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 4: a breakout year arguably as good as a point guard

692
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 4: as there was at all mid major basketball. And it

693
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 4: was heartbreaking just because I know how much he puts

694
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 4: into it and how good of a young man he is.

695
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 4: He's about all the right things. So it was hard

696
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 4: for all the teammates. We were all crying in the

697
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 4: locker room afterwards and didn't feel like we won that

698
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 4: game versus Ball State. I'll be honest, right, but our

699
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 4: guys don't flinch.

700
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: They don't flinch.

701
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 4: It's the next man up mentality.

702
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: You know.

703
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 4: Luke Skoujack has stilted really really nicely at the point

704
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 4: guard position. He's playing great basketball. And we've had other

705
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 4: guys out of it. We burned a red shirt of

706
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 4: a young man, a freshman that was red shirting for us.

707
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, he's playing a lot of minutes.

708
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 4: And so it's just next man up mentality. We get

709
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 4: a lot of good players in our program and and listen,

710
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 4: we play for each other and and and they do

711
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 4: it for each other. And that's when I when I

712
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 4: talked to Justin Kirby about burning his red shirt, he said, Coach,

713
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 4: I want to do it for my teammates. I was think, man,

714
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 4: that's really refreshing to hear, you know, had no selfish

715
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 4: intention at all. He just wanted to help the team.

716
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 4: And that's why we're such a good such a good

717
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 4: team overall.

718
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Speaker 1: And in this day of n I L and the

719
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: portal and the madness that comes with all of that,

720
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Speaker 1: it is it has to be refreshing as a head

721
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: coach to hear a kid say that and mean it

722
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: and really show that he cares about the team. He

723
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: cares about his teammates more than he does himself. And

724
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Speaker 1: that's not to say that these kids who are playing

725
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 1: at major programs at power conferences shouldn't look out for themselves.

726
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: Of course they should, but just to hear that from

727
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: your perspective, it's got to be truly refreshing.

728
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 4: No, it really is, you know, I listen our guys.

729
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 4: That's why I mentioned earlier. The fit piece is more

730
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 4: important than ever in my opinion, in programs and with

731
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 4: the coaches and the players. They have to fit together.

732
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 4: If they don't, I think frustration will set in. Because

733
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 4: if you have the right fit, the love will naturally

734
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 4: organically be there, the connectivity will be in your program,

735
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Speaker 4: And to me, that's the superpower of our team here

736
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 4: at Miami that maybe some of the other teams don't have.

737
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 4: They may have a lot of talent, but they don't

738
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Speaker 4: have that superpower of the connection that our guys have.

739
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: Well, I want to ask this question now. We'll disclose

740
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: your coach. My daughter Jane is a twenty twenty two

741
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: graduate of Love and Honor of Miami University, and her

742
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: boyfriend is as well. We could be looking at a

743
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: Miami merger. We'll see if that happens. It could. But

744
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: his name is Shiraga, and he wanted me to ask

745
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: you this question. I actually think it's a very insightful question.

746
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: He said.

747
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: If with the unique occurrence of a mid major like

748
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: Miami not having much turnover from last year to this year,

749
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Speaker 1: and the effort of you and your coaching staff, or

750
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: was it more the player's side of the equation wanting

751
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: to come back, what was the bigger, biggest factory in

752
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: the chemistry of this year's team.

753
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great, great question. I think you know.

754
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 4: Number one, our staff is very very connected, But our

755
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 4: staff is very connected to our players, players of staff, managers,

756
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 4: and we have a lot of fun and we do

757
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 4: we work really really hard, but we have a ton

758
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 4: of fun, and I want to give our guys a great,

759
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 4: great experience, and I would tell you man. I met

760
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 4: with Peter Souter right after last season. We lost a

761
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 4: heartbreaker to Accron in the championship game of the Mac

762
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 4: Tournament where he led for thirty nine minutes and fifty

763
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 4: five seconds and it was a gut rencher for our guys.

764
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 4: But I repeat on two days later on Monday morning,

765
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 4: and he said, Coach, I'm not going anywhere. He said,

766
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 4: I love it here. I've never played better or winning.

767
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 4: I loved my teammates, I love the staff, I love

768
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 4: get the great education. He said, why would I leave?

769
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 4: And I was like, man, this guy's the first team

770
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 4: all Mac player and people were obviously tampering with I'm

771
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 4: gonna bebs. He's a really good player. But again, I

772
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 4: think it's just that love for each other. The fit

773
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 4: pieces is very, very loud in our program, and I

774
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 4: think that, like I said, it's more important than ever

775
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 4: rather than just going accumulating talent, I don't know if

776
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 4: that works anymore. The talent piece just just solely talent.

777
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: How much did those two overtime games back to back

778
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: help define your team and what they could be capable of,

779
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: because you know, I think you really garnered a lot

780
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: of national attention by the way you guys won those

781
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: two games. Had to rally from I believe it was

782
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: five points in each of those games in the final

783
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: two minutes, and you manage to win at home against

784
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo obviously on Peter Souters three pointer. And then the

785
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: game at Kent State was a phenomenal game to watch.

786
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean as fun as the UMass game was the

787
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: game at Kent State on the road to win that

788
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: game in overtime one O seven, one oh one. How

789
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: much did those two games back to back really help

790
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: define the character of the team.

791
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think being in tough moments is it's good

792
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 4: for us, right, it prepares us for March because we've

793
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 4: seen everything. We've been down, we've been up, but those

794
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 4: two games we were down. And listen, it's can we

795
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 4: live out our core values not during good times but

796
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 4: during tough times. And that's again two of ours that

797
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 4: I really go back to is carry your brothers or

798
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 4: one of our core values and embody undeniable confidences. The

799
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 4: other one we are unflappable, We are cool, calm, collected,

800
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 4: we have total belief in what we're doing, and can

801
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 4: we focus in that moment, concentrate and do your job

802
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 4: because I think more games are lost than they're one

803
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 4: at the in the games, and can you execute in

804
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 4: those moments. Our guys can and they have full confidence

805
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 4: in that. You know, even when we are down by

806
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 4: four or five points with a couple of minutes to go,

807
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 4: we feel like we're winning. And if you could be

808
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 4: a fly just inside our huddles, just our voices of

809
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 4: our players, the leadership that they provide is just incredible.

810
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 4: It's incredible. But that will really help us moving forward

811
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 4: into March. We're playing in tight games.

812
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: You have quite the schedule, and I know it's as

813
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: a coach, it's your responsibility to just be focused on

814
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: the Northern Illinois Huskies tomorrow. I totally get that, But

815
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: you do have five road games in February and you

816
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: have a road game at Ohio to wrap up the

817
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: regular season before the MAC. What do you think when

818
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: you hear that type of schedule coming at you.

819
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we love playing on the road. You know,

820
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 4: we call it taking the show on the road. So

821
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 4: that's the theme for our guys because everywhere we've been going,

822
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 4: it's sold out, you know, so it's it's a lot

823
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 4: of fun. They're great environments. I think we lean right

824
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 4: into an out argue that we played better on the

825
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 4: road than we do at home, And because I think

826
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 4: our guys like that challenge, right, they like it's almost

827
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 4: like in us versus the world mentality. When you go

828
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 4: on the road and it's our guys, they lead into it,

829
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 4: they embrace it, they have fun with it, and I

830
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 4: think it really helps us.

831
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: You sound like you are truly enjoying yourself. This is

832
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: a great story, Travis, and I just want to, you know,

833
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: express the gratitude of a college foot college basketball fan again,

834
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: full disclosure. I went to Villanova and to see it,

835
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: to come home and see this type of environment in

836
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: southwest Ohio. We all know about Cincinnati, we all know

837
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: about Xavier, but to really give rebirth to what's going

838
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: on in Oxford and the basketball program, It's been certainly

839
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: a pleasure to watch, and I'm sure you're enjoying it.

840
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 2: Just as much.

841
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the journey, as everybody sees, the results are great,

842
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 4: but the journey is more fun, to be honest, Like

843
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 4: the practice film bus rides hotels. That's that's that's where

844
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 4: we have a ton of fun. And I again, we

845
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 4: have young men in our program that I would do

846
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 4: anything for. They're just they're incredible people. They're great basketball players,

847
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 4: but they're better people, and I think that speaks volumes

848
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 4: of who they are and how their parents raise them

849
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 4: and whatnot.

850
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: Well, I cannot tell you thank you enough for taking

851
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: time out the night before a game.

852
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: Again.

853
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: That game at Mallette Hall is at three point thirty

854
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: tomorrow afternoon. It follows the women's game, which tips off

855
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: at one o'clock. I believe it's sold out, right, coach,

856
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: The whole day.

857
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 3: Is sold out.

858
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole day is sold out.

859
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 3: Man.

860
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 4: Our women's team is doing great, by the way. I mean,

861
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 4: they are rolling the undefeated in league as well, So

862
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 4: hopefully we both can keep that streak going tomorrow.

863
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: All right.

864
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 1: He is Travis Steele, head coach of the undefeated twenty

865
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: one to zero and twenty fourth ranked Miami RedHawks. The

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Speaker 1: RedHawks and the number one Arizona Wildcats the only undefeated

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Speaker 1: teams in Division One. The Miami RedHawks will try to

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Speaker 1: continue that streak. As Coach Steele just mentioned, tomorrow up

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Speaker 1: in Oxford. We have to take a break for the

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Speaker 1: bottom of the hour. My name is Mike Petralia, and

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Speaker 1: you're listening to Sports Talk presented by RNL carriers on

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Speaker 1: news Radio seven hundred WLW seven thirty six. Back here

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Speaker 1: on sports Talk presented by RNL carriers on News Radio

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW. My name is Mike Petralia. I have

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Speaker 1: you until nine o'clo. Have you on the air anyway

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Speaker 1: until nine o'clock when the one and only Sterling takes

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Speaker 1: over on these very airwaves. We've had a terrific show

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Speaker 1: so far. We've talked about a wide range of topics. Loved, loved,

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Speaker 1: loved talking with coach Travis Steele about the remarkable run

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Speaker 1: that his RedHawks team is on twenty one to oh twenty,

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Speaker 1: fourth ranked in the country. He also gave a tip

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Speaker 1: of the cap to the women's team, which is also

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Speaker 1: undefeated in MAC play. They are also on a historic run.

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Speaker 1: So these are very heady times up in Oxford, Ohio

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Speaker 1: for the Cream and White of the Miami RedHawks.

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Speaker 2: Good for them.

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Speaker 1: It's really really great to see them do what they've

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Speaker 1: been able to do so far this winter. It is

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Speaker 1: my pleasure to welcome into the rotation here on Sports

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Speaker 1: Talk a new guest and a friend of mine. And

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Speaker 1: as it seems like half my friends are from New England,

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Speaker 1: and this gentleman is no different. He does a terrific

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Speaker 1: job covering all things Cincinnati sports, Reds, Bengals, Xavier you

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Speaker 1: see you name it for Local twelve and Local twelve

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Speaker 1: dot com. I'm talking about Yanni Tregellis. Yanni, welcome to

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Speaker 1: sports talk here on WLW.

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Speaker 6: How you doing, Bud, I'm doing great tracks.

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Speaker 5: Thanks so much for having me on. And now what

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Speaker 5: an intro A great friend.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Now, I mean anybody who has gone through the trials

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Speaker 1: and tribulations of New England, or at least grew up there,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give the tip of the cap to

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Speaker 1: how's that?

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Speaker 6: I love it?

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 5: You know, the Patriots growing up over there. You know,

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Speaker 5: it's a lot of winning back in the day, and

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Speaker 5: I mean now they're they're right back at it. It seems like.

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Speaker 1: It does that the evil Empire is back. So you

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Speaker 1: texted me the other day after the Patriots won an

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00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: ugly game. Let's you know what, Let's get right to it.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk Patriots in the Super Bowl against Seattle. You

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Speaker 1: covered the Patriots a little bit when you were up

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Speaker 1: in Providence, and this is a much different feel with

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Speaker 1: Mike Brabel, to say the very least, than it was

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Speaker 1: with Bill Belichick. Obviously, it's a remach of Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: forty nine. We know how that ended. Go, Malcolm go.

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Speaker 1: But I think this is a refreshing run for Robert Kraft,

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Speaker 1: the owner of the Patriots, and I think even the

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Speaker 1: fan base, I think they're kind of looking at a newer, fresher,

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Speaker 1: new England Patriots franchise and it's not as it's not

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Speaker 1: wound up as tight.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of wonder. I mean, I guess the

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Speaker 5: hate that I've seen on social media is because of

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Speaker 5: just the Patriots being back, But like you said, it's

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Speaker 5: a completely different feel Like there's nothing to really hate

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Speaker 5: about Mike Rabel. I mean, he's never really done anything

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Speaker 5: in that sense to make people hate him like they

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Speaker 5: hated Belichick. Drake May you know, seems like a likable

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Speaker 5: guy and he's got his wife doing the tiktoks with

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Speaker 5: the bake miss and everything. I mean, there's really nothing

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Speaker 5: to hate about all of that. But I mean, I guess,

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Speaker 5: like you said, the Evil Empire.

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Speaker 6: It just it's easy.

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Speaker 5: To not root for them and want Seattle in that game.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Robert.

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Speaker 1: So much has been made over the last couple of days,

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Speaker 1: and rightfully so, for Bill Belichick being snubbed by the

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Speaker 1: committee that elects the Hall of Fame candidates. And to

941
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Speaker 1: be clear about this, what happened was when they changed

942
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Speaker 1: the rules, contributors and senior members of the nfoor veterans

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Speaker 1: who had not gotten in on the initial ballot, they

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Speaker 1: were grouped together. That's why only I believe it is

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Speaker 1: three can be selected of those two groups at the

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Speaker 1: same time. That's why they say Belichick was snubbed. But

947
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Speaker 1: let's face it, Belichick should be in the Hall of Fame.

948
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Speaker 1: I actually think Robert Kraft should probably be in the

949
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame for all the contributions that he's made,

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Speaker 1: and that would leave just one senior player. And I'm

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Speaker 1: biased here, and I'm going to tell you Ken Anderson

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Speaker 1: was the most accurate quarterback in NFL history when he

953
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Speaker 1: left the game in nineteen eighty five. I believe it was,

954
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Speaker 1: and he should to maybe a slam dunk to get

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Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it you know, seeing people on social media,

957
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Speaker 5: Ken Anderson is kind of catching strays from people because

958
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Speaker 5: of Belichick not making it in. I mean that just

959
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Speaker 5: kind of hurts because, like you said, he should have

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Speaker 5: been in there long before this point, and now it

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Speaker 5: seems that because of this Belichick stuff and the leaving

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Speaker 5: him out, Ken Anderson has been catching a ton of

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Speaker 5: flack from people that he just doesn't deserve.

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Speaker 1: No, And I mean, look, the results are the that's

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Speaker 1: the thing, Yanny, results of the results. And to me,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to elect a Hall of Fame and

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Speaker 1: going to select members for your duly crowned Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame entrance, you should just base it on their accomplishments

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Speaker 1: and their contribution to the sport bill. Belichick was penalized

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Speaker 1: and the Patriots were penalized for spygate, to flake Gate,

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Speaker 1: all of that, and he really wasn't involved into flake Gate,

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Speaker 1: I don't think, and I did cover that story. But

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Speaker 1: Belichick should be in because of his contributions. I think

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Speaker 1: Craft should be in, and I think Kenny Anderson should be.

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Speaker 5: In absolutely, and I don't think Belichick hasn't said anything

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Speaker 5: about it.

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Speaker 2: Correct. No, and he's not going to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if we know anything about Bill Belichick, now,

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Speaker 1: Jordan might say something, but Bill is not going to

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Speaker 1: say a peep. And I think he is probably asked

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Speaker 1: Jordan to keep stay quilt on the matter, and that's

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Speaker 1: probably a good idea. All right, let's move on to

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Speaker 1: the game itself, super Bowl sixty out in Santa Clara.

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Speaker 1: What do you think will be the keys for that game?

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Speaker 1: And who do you see winning?

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Speaker 5: So right away once Seattle's game wrapped up for some reason,

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Speaker 5: what's stuck in my mind was a twenty four to

988
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Speaker 5: twenty game, is what I see this one panning out.

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Speaker 5: And I will say if this I think Seattle is

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Speaker 5: the better team in all aspects except for quarterback, even

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Speaker 5: though Drake May has not played well in the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: If this game what I've been saying throughout the week,

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Speaker 5: if this was a week ten game, I think Seattle

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Speaker 5: wins this game by ten points. Probably they win pretty comfortably.

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Speaker 5: But with it being the Super Bowl and two weeks

996
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 5: to prepare, you know, every play in the Super Bowl

997
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 5: is the Super Bowl. You know, every play is an

998
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 5: magnifying glass on it.

999
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 6: It can win you the game, lose you the game.

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Speaker 5: I just think with two weeks to repair, Mike Rabel

1001
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 5: has been in three of them, he can communicate that

1002
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 5: with his players. McDaniels, the offensive coordinator, has coached in

1003
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Speaker 5: so many he's gonna have Drake repaired. And at the

1004
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Speaker 5: end of the day, tracks Sam Darnald has had a

1005
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 5: great year, but I just every time I watch him play,

1006
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Speaker 5: and he had the best game of his life in

1007
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Speaker 5: the NFC Championship. But I'm just waiting for when the

1008
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 5: old Sam Donald is going to come back and he

1009
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 5: just throws four interceptions and can't read the defense. And

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00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 5: for some reason, he hasn't shown that at all this year,

1011
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 5: or at least in the last two months. But I'm

1012
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 5: just waiting and waiting, and it just seems like it's

1013
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 5: something that's going to happen eventually.

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Speaker 6: And I mean, when the.

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00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 5: Lights are the brightest, I fear that that's what's going

1016
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Speaker 5: to happen, and that the Patriots will.

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Speaker 2: End up winning.

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00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: All right, Let's move on to the Cincinnati Bengals and

1019
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: what they have to do and if they could take

1020
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: maybe a cue from the New England Patriots in terms

1021
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: of rebuilding the defense that's been the subject of the

1022
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: conversation really since the end of the season. We've talked

1023
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: about it already here tonight on the Sports Talk program,

1024
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Speaker 1: and I want to get your opinion, because you've been

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Speaker 1: around the Bengals all season long along with your colleague

1026
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Speaker 1: and my colleague on the Jungle War podcast, Richard Skinner

1027
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 1: of Local twelve. I want to get your feelings on

1028
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: where the Bengals need to improve that defense. And I

1029
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 1: want some have to dos and I want some want

1030
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: to dos.

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00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 5: Okay, So I mean the salary cap going up today

1032
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 5: almost perfect news for the Bengals that they'll have a

1033
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 5: little extra money to spend. I think, what seventh most

1034
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 5: in the league without fifty five million dollars to spend

1035
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 5: this offseason. Obviously, the draft picking at ten, I don't

1036
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 5: think fans need to worry too much. They're going to

1037
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 5: go defense. And I mean either Down's Bane, Baylor Woods,

1038
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 5: or one of them is going to be there at ten,

1039
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 5: just off of the statistical probability. Mendoza will go one.

1040
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 5: And then you basically have nine picks in front of them,

1041
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 5: and you have four guys that you hope to be there,

1042
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 5: and the chances of them not being there are slim

1043
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 5: to none. So I mean for me, it's more of

1044
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 5: the later rounds that are on my mind, and I

1045
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 5: think you go defense.

1046
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: And all of them.

1047
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 5: One guy tracks that I want to give you.

1048
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that I have.

1049
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 5: Fallen in love with in this process of looking at

1050
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 5: the prospects. You know, Dax Hill and you know since

1051
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 5: moving to the outside, played great down the stretch and

1052
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 5: I think he's.

1053
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 6: Going to stay there.

1054
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 5: I have fallen in love with Keante Scott from Miami.

1055
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 5: He plays in the nickel a lot. He had the

1056
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 5: pick six against Ohio State in the playoffs where he

1057
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 5: jumped that screen path and took it to the house.

1058
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 5: And you know, I've kind of been looking at him

1059
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 5: through there because that play, I was like, I was

1060
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 5: a great read and he is just physical and coverage.

1061
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 5: And one thing is I've been reading about him in

1062
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 5: fall camp. He was staying in the facility. He would

1063
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 5: stay there with Malachi Tony, that wide receiver from Miami,

1064
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 5: and they would not leave the building. And I'm like,

1065
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 5: that is a guy that the Bengals need to get

1066
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 5: and need to bring in. I've seen him going second round,

1067
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 5: third round. I would jump on him right in the

1068
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 5: second round and bring him in. I mean, that is

1069
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 5: the kind of guy that you need in the building.

1070
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 5: So that's a want and also I guess got to

1071
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 5: have as well, in my opinion, just someone to bring

1072
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 5: a dog mentality into the defense.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you brought that up, because I don't

1074
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Speaker 1: think Cam Taylor Britt is going to be on the

1075
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: roster next year.

1076
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: I just don't.

1077
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: He's a unrestricted free agent. And another player that I

1078
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Speaker 1: don't think they're really leaning on a lot of expectations

1079
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: heavily next year is Josh Newton. He's a fifth round

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Speaker 1: pick from two years ago twenty twenty four. He did

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Speaker 1: get some good opportunities this year, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: if you see an opportunity to get that type of player,

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Speaker 1: the impact player you're talking about, at a corner position,

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Speaker 1: then I think you do it. One player that I

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Speaker 1: don't think that they really should take a chance on,

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Speaker 1: and I know Daniel Jeremiah likes him and has him

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Speaker 1: has the Bengals taking him at number ten, is Jermad McCoy. Now,

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Speaker 1: the story with McCoy is, as you well know, Yanni,

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00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: is he did not play last year. He was coming

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Speaker 1: off in ACL but he looked terrific the year before

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Speaker 1: and was projected back then as a first round talent

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Speaker 1: in the secondary. I'll be fascinated to see if they

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Speaker 1: are willing to take a gamble on a guy like

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Speaker 1: Jermad McCoy. Now, Jamar Chase didn't play a year before

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Speaker 1: being selected by the Bengals, but he wasn't coming off

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Speaker 1: in ACL injury, and I just can't imagine the Bengals

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Speaker 1: taking that kind of risk knowing that they need a

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Speaker 1: player that can come in right away and contribute.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would not like to see him go with

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Speaker 5: the tenth pick to Cincinnati. If those four guys are gone,

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Speaker 5: I think the best choice is either trade out of

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Speaker 5: that ten spot, which Cincinnati fans will not like, or

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Speaker 5: get go offensive line. You know, I don't think the

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Speaker 5: hole that he wants rise in her back, but you

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Speaker 5: don't know if what's gonna happen, and obviously we'll have

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Speaker 5: that answer by free Ay by the time the draft

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Speaker 5: comes around. But also something that I've noticed that I've

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Speaker 5: dove into this draft, I think this might be the

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Speaker 5: best cornerback draft that I've seen in at least the

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Speaker 5: last ten plus years. So if you were to draft

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Speaker 5: him ten, I think you get someone in the second

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Speaker 5: round that's almost gonna be the same value. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's so deep, I think you can I think this

1114
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Speaker 5: is gonna be a draft where we look back in

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Speaker 5: like six or so years and they're gonna be all

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Speaker 5: pros on the from the cornerback position. You know that

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Speaker 5: next crop of great corners be coming out of this draft.

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Speaker 5: So I think, I mean, if you can get someone

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Speaker 5: Brandon Seize is a late first round pick, if he's

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Speaker 5: still on the board somehow and slips someone that you

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Speaker 5: can get in that second round. I don't really know

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Speaker 5: about the Damaud pick. I also am not a fan

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Speaker 5: of I think it's got to be a slam dunk

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Speaker 5: get ten. You know, you can't agree, you can't. You

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Speaker 5: can't take a flyer or a hope on production like

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Speaker 5: you did last year. You've got to get a ready

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Speaker 5: made starter to come in that that can contribute from

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Speaker 5: day one.

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Speaker 1: And that's why to me, Caleb Downs is a game changer,

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Speaker 1: and if you can, if he is on the board,

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Speaker 1: I think you take him and you've got plenty of

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Speaker 1: tape in high competitive situations, high competitive games with Ohio

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Speaker 1: State detractors might try to tell you that, yeah, Caleb

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Speaker 1: Downs look great. Look at all of the defensive talent

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Speaker 1: in the NFL talent around him on that defense, But

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Speaker 1: I don't buy that. I think the tape speaks for itself.

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Speaker 1: I think the individual skill and the production speaks for itself.

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Speaker 1: And I also believe that when you sit him down,

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Speaker 1: that's where a lot of that's where the difference is.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of these interviews before the draft that

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Speaker 1: teams are like, well, not only do we like what

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Speaker 1: we saw on film, we love the way he conducted

1143
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Speaker 1: himself in the interview. We love his desire and love

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Speaker 1: for the game. I love guys at love ball. Zach

1145
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: Taylor always loves that line when talking about, you know,

1146
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Speaker 1: trying to draft the right player into the Bengals program.

1147
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Speaker 1: But to me, Caleb Downs definitely would be the guy

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Speaker 1: if the Bengals have that shot at number ten.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely. Can I give you a little take.

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Speaker 3: I know why.

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Speaker 5: I said all defense, but I forgot that. I was

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Speaker 5: thinking about this earlier this week. Now here's something that

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Speaker 5: I think could take this offense. I don't know if

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Speaker 5: they if there's level to go Wandale Robinson out of

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Speaker 5: the Giants imagine him in the slot with Joe Burrow

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Speaker 5: and then Jamar Chase and T Higgins. That is a

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Speaker 5: free agent that I mean, I would go meet with

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Speaker 5: him on day one of the tampering period or whatever.

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Speaker 5: I would make a call to him and imagine him

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Speaker 5: in this offense. I know some people want, you know,

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Speaker 5: a running back to come in or looking at tight ends.

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Speaker 5: I know Pitts is a free agent. I mean, bring

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Speaker 5: back the sickie. Well, and you have the sickie and

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Speaker 5: then you know you got Higgins, Chase, Chase Brown, get

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Speaker 5: p Ryan back and then I mean I think Wandale

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Speaker 5: Robinson just some speed in the slot. I mean, this

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Speaker 5: offense could be will be unstoppable.

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Speaker 1: If they had not missed so many times on defense

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Speaker 1: over the last couple of years in the draft, I

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Speaker 1: would be all for that, But they missed, and because

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Speaker 1: of that, they're going to have to make up for

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Speaker 1: it by I think, contribute commit a lot of their

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Speaker 1: higher round draft picks to the defense. We're still what

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Speaker 1: three months away from the actual draft this year. I

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Speaker 1: think it's in Pittsburgh, but with the Bengals having so

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Speaker 1: much at stake and the window still open, but there's

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Speaker 1: a lot more urgency to hold that window open. I

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Speaker 1: think there's going to be fabulous conversation between now and

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Speaker 1: then anything you're working on. By the way, for Local

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Speaker 1: twelve and Local twelve dot com, Janni.

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Speaker 5: Well, I am currently in the Wyoming High School parking lot,

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Speaker 5: going to be heading in here to get some highlights

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Speaker 5: for Local twelve sports. Tonight, we've got the Wyoming Madeira

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Speaker 5: game Lakota East versus West. That's a big time matchup,

1185
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Speaker 5: so we're gonna have some hoops there. Then, I know

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Speaker 5: you were talking about it with coach Travis Steele and

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Speaker 5: you know how great they've been doing. And also the

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Speaker 5: woman over on Local twelve dot com. Just last night

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Speaker 5: we aired a story we were up there in Oxford

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Speaker 5: speaking with the women's co which Glenn Box and some

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Speaker 5: of his players talking about their historic run and they've

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Speaker 5: got a big game tomorrow too, can officially have their

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Speaker 5: best start in program history. They're currently tied with their

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Speaker 5: nineteen eighty nine team at nine to zero in MAC play.

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Speaker 5: Tomorrow they can move to sen Ando.

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Speaker 1: That is tremendous stuff. Yes, a great time to be

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Speaker 1: a member of the Love and Honor crew up in Oxford. Ohio.

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Speaker 1: It really is. It's great to see a revival of

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Speaker 1: the basketball program on the men's and the women's side.

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Speaker 1: It has been my pleasure talking sports here with Yanni

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Speaker 1: Trigellis of Local twelve and Local twelve dot com. Yannie,

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Speaker 1: look forward to having you on in the future, my.

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Speaker 5: Friend, appreciate it. Trags, you have a great weekend.

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Speaker 1: Stay warm, all right, that's Yanni Triguelis of Local twelve

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Speaker 1: dot com. Coming up on the other side of news

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Speaker 1: at the top of the hour, we will talk with

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Speaker 1: Shelby Dermer. We'll talk Xavier basketball and some Australian Open tennis.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to have that conversation with Shelby. My

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Speaker 1: name is Mike Petralia Trags. You're listening to sports Talk

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Speaker 1: presented by RNL Carriers on News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: Radio seven hundred WLW. Filling in for Lance McAllister in

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Speaker 1: this final hour leading up to Sterling at the top

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Speaker 1: of the hour at nine o'clock. And now it is

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Speaker 1: my pleasure to welcome on to the program a regular

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Speaker 1: guest to this program Sports Talk when I fill in

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Speaker 1: for Lance. His name is Shelby Durmer of the Cincinnati Inquirer,

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Speaker 1: covers the Xavier Musketeers, does a fabulous job covering the

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Speaker 1: Musketeers for Cincinnati dot Com and the Inquirer. And also

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Speaker 1: when the summertime comes around, he can be seen up

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Speaker 1: in Mason covering some great tennis. We'll get to that

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Speaker 1: in just a moment. But your primary gig, Shelby, is

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Speaker 1: covering the Musketeers. And it's been a rough go for

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Speaker 1: the last three games, a three game losing skid for

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Speaker 1: Richard Patino and his Musketeers. Why can't they protect the

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Speaker 1: lead in the second half?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and thanks for having me on tracks first of all,

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Speaker 7: But yeah, to say it's been just a demoralizing January

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Speaker 7: for Xavior and understatement. Now two three game losing streaks,

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Speaker 7: and if you really look at this, since they last

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Speaker 7: played the Paul and they'll play them again tomorrow, you

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Speaker 7: have four losses two and four in that stretch, and

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Speaker 7: all four of those losses were winnable games, one point

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Speaker 7: losses to Marquette and Creighton, and then second half double

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Speaker 7: digit leads they couldn't hold onto against Saint John's and

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Speaker 7: Seaton Hall. And I just think the big thing is

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Speaker 7: with Xavier, it's it's been reoccurring problems. You know. Against

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Speaker 7: Marquette and Saint John's, it was inability to get a

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Speaker 7: rebound in crunch time. It was a sloppy play with turnovers.

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Speaker 7: Against Creighton, you know, it was a small ball lineup

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Speaker 7: for each side. It was an offensive shootout. Defense is

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Speaker 7: kind of optional, but again, it comes down to a rebound,

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Speaker 7: and right now, Xavier just doesn't have, you know, the

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Speaker 7: defense to hang with some of these guys. Seaton Hall

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Speaker 7: hadn't scored eighty plus points in Biggie's play in a while.

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Speaker 7: And yeah, defensively, it's been a struggle for Savior. They

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Speaker 7: have a smaller lineup, and it's really helped them offensively,

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Speaker 7: but certainly hurting them on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 7: And I think that's shown up late in games.

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Speaker 1: I asked Paul Fritchner, a good friend of ours, on

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Speaker 1: a rebound rundown last night on the program, if the

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Speaker 1: second half problems have anything to do with stamina and

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Speaker 1: the lack of size and the lack of you know,

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Speaker 1: big bodies that Richard Patino has at his disposal. Do

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Speaker 1: you think it has anything to do with the stamina.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it certainly could play a role, because

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Speaker 7: you look at Zager's bench and very limited outside of

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Speaker 7: really Roddy Anderson and Alright are kind of, you know,

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Speaker 7: splitting splitting duties at point guard. They played even amount

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Speaker 7: of minutes depending on just the game, but especially down

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Speaker 7: low in the front court, Yovan Belisseevich, Philip or Avichenen

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Speaker 7: and Trey Carroll of playing big roles. But on the bench,

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Speaker 7: you're really not getting a lot from pop Enji. He

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Speaker 7: certainly had some flashes in big East played, but not consistent.

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Speaker 7: And Anthony Robinson didn't play in a couple of games

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Speaker 7: he started. He was a starting five Perxavior to begin

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Speaker 7: the year and has struggled mightily and hasn't really come around,

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Speaker 7: So certainly can play a factor, especially, you know, not

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Speaker 7: just the stamina thing tracks, but you know they're out

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Speaker 7: there playing so many minutes, trusted to play so many minutes,

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Speaker 7: and they're running into foul trouble in a lot of

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Speaker 7: these games. It's a point I should have brought up

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Speaker 7: when you asked the previous question about not being able

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Speaker 7: to finish in the second half, is that teams are

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Speaker 7: shooting just way more free throws than Xavior during Big

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Speaker 7: East play, and Jovan Malishevich has certainly been the culprit

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Speaker 7: of plenty of fouls fouling out and I think four

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Speaker 7: straight games before the Seaton Hall lost, So yeah, I

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Speaker 7: think a mix of just stamina, having a short bench,

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Speaker 7: and then when they do have to turn to that bench,

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Speaker 7: not knowing what they're going to get.

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Speaker 1: Well, the other night against the Seaton Hall Pirates, Malisovich

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Speaker 1: had sixteen points. He only if I'm yeah, you only

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Speaker 1: had two fouls for the game. That was actually quite surprising,

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Speaker 1: and you would think in thirty four minutes two fouls

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Speaker 1: that would be a good sign for the Musketeers, but

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Speaker 1: that wasn't the case for Richard Patino.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I.

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Speaker 1: Want to relate its little anecdote because during the Saint

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Speaker 1: John's game, late in the game, when Melissa vic Sure

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Speaker 1: is having so many problems fouling out of games late

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Speaker 1: and really putting the Musketeers in a mind, you saw

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Speaker 1: something between Patino and Melissovich and you said to me,

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Speaker 1: you know what I saw in that time out. I

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Speaker 1: saw Patino kind of suggest to Melisovich. I think this

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01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 1: was right before halftime, I want to make sure you

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Speaker 1: don't get another foul. I mean kind of like along

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Speaker 1: those lines.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so Melisovich had two in the first half, obviously,

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Speaker 7: don't want to get them to that third foul before

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Speaker 7: the half. And you know, right around the under thirty

1311
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Speaker 7: seconds play, let's just call it, Saint John's was shooting

1312
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Speaker 7: free throws and Xavier big Man, I think it was

1313
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Speaker 7: Popenji committed a foul, and you know, Patina just kind

1314
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Speaker 7: of looked and said, you know, looked at him. His

1315
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 7: assistants were kind of like, you know, should we put

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Speaker 7: him in for this offensive possession?

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Speaker 5: Because Xavier after the free throw.

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Speaker 7: Is gonna, you know, have the last shot in the

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Speaker 7: first half, so you don't have to worry about him

1320
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Speaker 7: committing a defensive foul. So Patino just kind of hesitated

1321
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Speaker 7: for just a second, it appeared, and then was like, yeah,

1322
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Speaker 7: put him in. We need him for this offensive possession.

1323
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Speaker 7: Xavier doesn't run out the rest of the clock and

1324
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Speaker 7: they shoot and miss a shot, I believe with about

1325
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Speaker 7: seven seconds left, and then Saint John's you know.

1326
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Speaker 5: Raced up the floor, drove right at.

1327
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Speaker 7: Melissa vishtuar the baseline for a shot and there was

1328
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Speaker 7: no whistle. He went up clean straight up, so they

1329
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Speaker 7: dodged a bullet there. But yeah, that was definitely the

1330
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Speaker 7: interaction you can you could make out Patino, you know,

1331
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Speaker 7: weighing the risk versus reward and putting him in or not.

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Speaker 6: So it's been a big.

1333
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Speaker 7: Deal in conference play, and you see it just there

1334
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Speaker 7: where you know, those thirty seconds could make or break

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Speaker 7: you if he picks up a third.

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Speaker 1: Speaking with Shelby of the Cincinnati Inquirer covering the Xavier Musketeers,

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Speaker 1: I bring that up because Patino is just so he

1338
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: has such charisma on the back and I wonder where

1339
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: he got that from, right apple doesn't fall too far

1340
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Speaker 1: from the tree. But I think it's one of the reasons.

1341
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of players love playing for him

1342
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: because he's been around. I mean, he looks young, but

1343
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: he has already been in head coaching. This is his

1344
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 1: fourth program, so he knows what he's doing, right.

1345
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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, I mean he's he's got a plan and

1346
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Speaker 7: you know, that's That's one thing I believe he mentioned

1347
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 7: it in his introductory press conference back in April when

1348
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 7: he when he became Xavier's head coach, is that you know,

1349
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 7: he's kind of viewed as this up and cover you know,

1350
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 7: bring in New Mexico, the Lobos to back to back

1351
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 7: nca tournament and a conference title. But you know, fourteen

1352
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 7: years and the first his first year at zavery picks

1353
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 7: up win number two hundred and fifty. So yeah, he's

1354
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 7: been around Florida International, Minnesota, took his lumps there, and

1355
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 7: then you know, the New Mexico job.

1356
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 6: So yeah, this is the second high.

1357
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 7: Major, high major job track. So he definitely has a

1358
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 7: planned and I think it's a you know, it says

1359
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 7: something with the way Davy players talk about him and

1360
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 7: kind of buying in to what he's preaching.

1361
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 1: You know, and I realize this has been a year

1362
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: of ups and downs for Patino, and I think everybody

1363
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 1: realistically expected that to be the case. I think last

1364
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: Saturday was the most frustrated I think I've seen Patino

1365
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 1: after a loss. The Santa Clara game was disheartening, but

1366
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: he knew that there was a long way to go

1367
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,600
Speaker 1: in the season. I think to be up against a

1368
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 1: quality team, not just his father's team, and with number

1369
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: nine hundred on the line, but to be up by

1370
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: double digits and not being able to close out that

1371
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: game in you know, mid to late January, I think

1372
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: that kind of that was probably his toughest loss to

1373
01:14:59,240 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 1: take of.

1374
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Speaker 7: The year, for sure, and that's saying something trags considering

1375
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:07,799
Speaker 7: three days ago they had another Quad one opportunity in Creighton,

1376
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 7: and they lost by not getting an offensive rebound in

1377
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 7: the final seconds and then losing on a game winning

1378
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 7: bank shot from the wing that just somehow, you know,

1379
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 7: found some nylon. So I agree with you Tracks that

1380
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 7: that was kind of you know, you're eleven and eight,

1381
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 7: but you beat Saint John's, you get to twelve and eight,

1382
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 7: four games over five hundred, you're one game under five

1383
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 7: hundred and Big East play, kind of a turning point win,

1384
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 7: a statement win in a big EE schedule where you're

1385
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 7: kind of lacking that signature win. So far, they've only

1386
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 7: beaten Georgetown, Providence and Butler, so definitely could see. You know, Richard,

1387
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 7: you know, joke kind of joked with the media about,

1388
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 7: you know, the all the hoop locks around in the

1389
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 7: game with his dad and number nine hundred, saying they're

1390
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 7: all the same. He compared it to the Crosstown shootout

1391
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 7: where you know, fans, media trying to make it bigger

1392
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 7: than it is, but you got to be crazy to

1393
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 7: not think it meant a little more to him, And

1394
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 7: maybe Rick Patino said it best before that game. He

1395
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 7: said he'll do everything humanly possible to stop it. So

1396
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 7: definitely to have a win like that so close in

1397
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 7: Grafts in the second half in a game you were

1398
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 7: up sixteen Sint Tot Center, you were there probably as

1399
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 7: loud as it's been since the Crosstown shootout. Absolutely, it

1400
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 7: was a great atmosphere the two holloway. It was setting

1401
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 7: up to be a really magical day at SINTS Center

1402
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 7: and just came up short. So yeah, I concur with

1403
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 7: you about his frustration level being at a season high.

1404
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 1: Musketeers eleven and ten overall, three and seven in the

1405
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: Big East. Tomorrow is a sneaky big game, I think

1406
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 1: for Richard Patino, I think he feels that this program,

1407
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 1: if it's going to take that next step, at least

1408
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: this season, they need to win a game like tomorrow

1409
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 1: against a Paul at home.

1410
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, certainly, because well you don't want to look too

1411
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 7: far ahead, but coming up on the horizon, you got

1412
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 7: at number two Yukon and at number twenty five Saint John's,

1413
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 7: So yeah, take care of business, excuse me at home

1414
01:16:58,120 --> 01:16:59,600
Speaker 7: against the Paul. I mean, you got to turn this

1415
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 7: thing around to get some positive momentum for these guys,

1416
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 7: especially with the way it's gone. It hasn't been just

1417
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 7: you know, flat out losses like you saw in Iowa

1418
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 7: and Santa Clair where they've been out played. I mean,

1419
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 7: the results have really lagged behind the improvement. The improvements there.

1420
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 7: This team's come a long way since walking out of

1421
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,759
Speaker 7: Cintas Center after a forty one point loss back in December,

1422
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 7: but certainly the Winds lost column hasn't shown it, and

1423
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 7: tomorrow a good opportunity to do that.

1424
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 2: Want to switch gears for a moment.

1425
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: As we wrap up here, We've got about four more

1426
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Speaker 1: minutes to go in this segment with Shelby Dehmer of

1427
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Inquirer. He also back in twenty twenty three

1428
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: and going forward, writes tennis when the tennis opened, the

1429
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 1: big event is up in Mason, the precursor really for

1430
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 1: a lot of the major players around the world for

1431
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: the US Open in a couple of weeks after in Flushing.

1432
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: So you covered the twenty twenty three Western and Southern Open,

1433
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,560
Speaker 1: and it was one of the best sporting events I

1434
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:06,759
Speaker 1: have ever seen in person, Shelby, and it is happened

1435
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 1: to be I think the sixth meeting between at the

1436
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 1: time number one ranked and number one seated Novak Djokovic

1437
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: and number two Carlos Alcaraz.

1438
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 2: It was for a three set match.

1439
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 1: It was four hours long, and Djokovic eventually won it five, seven, seven,

1440
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: six and seven to six.

1441
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 2: I want you to.

1442
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: Tell me what it was like covering that event and

1443
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 1: how much you appreciate watching the Australian Open semifinals some

1444
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 1: two and a half years later.

1445
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, you kind of I kind of got flashbacks to

1446
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 7: the Cincinnati Open or Western and Southern Open. It was

1447
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 7: called then just watching what happened in Melbourne Park yesterday.

1448
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 7: But yeah, you know you said it was the best,

1449
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 7: one of the best sporting events you've ever been to.

1450
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 7: Certainly I'd say I'd put it at number one the

1451
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 7: top sporting events that I've ever covered, just because of,

1452
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 7: you know, the perseverance both guys showed. It was everyone was,

1453
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 7: you know, on pins and needles, waiting for the next point.

1454
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 7: I think somewhere in there around the third set, I

1455
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 7: believe that Alcarez saved a couple of match points with

1456
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 7: just some miraculous shots fourhand, backhand cross for he just

1457
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 7: he really goes for it. And it was that moment

1458
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 7: where just in tennants where obviously Djokovic has been part

1459
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 7: of you know, the mount Rushmore of tennis all time,

1460
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 7: but he's ruled for so long, he's been at his peak,

1461
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 7: and then you have this up and comer in Alcarez

1462
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 7: challenging him on the grand stage of an ATP Master's

1463
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,799
Speaker 7: one thousand. It was it was every bit as thrilling

1464
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 7: as you saw as a fan, as you saw on TV.

1465
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 7: It was funny because Coco Golf on the WGA side.

1466
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 7: She became the first teenager to win the the Cincinnati

1467
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 7: opened in I believe it since nineteen seventy or so.

1468
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 7: But she flew back home to Florida and the match

1469
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:01,799
Speaker 7: was still when she got off the planet.

1470
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Speaker 3: That's yeah.

1471
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 7: So she was watching an absolute thriller and Djokovic, you know,

1472
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 7: he poured it all out there because you know, the

1473
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 7: final point, I think Alcoraz the final point sailed long

1474
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 7: backhand was was too far and Yokovic just dropped to

1475
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 7: his knees and dropped to his back, laid his arms

1476
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 7: out like he gave everything. But yeah, I mean, no

1477
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 7: words can do justice just how great that match was.

1478
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:28,679
Speaker 2: It was great.

1479
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: But I will tell you, and I did stay up

1480
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 1: last night until four thirty in the morning watching the

1481
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 1: Sasha Zerov and Carlos Alcaraz match. It was again one

1482
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 1: of the great matches I've ever seen. I went to

1483
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 1: bed and I said to myself, I remember this at

1484
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: like four forty five in the morning, I'm like, I

1485
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: really hope I don't miss a classic in the nightcap.

1486
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 2: And what happens.

1487
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 1: It was a five set thriller between he and Janick Center,

1488
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: the number two seed in the tournament. And I tweeted

1489
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 1: off this morning and you can agree or disagree as

1490
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 1: we wrap up here in thirty seconds. I think it

1491
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 1: was the greatest men's semi final in Grand Slam history.

1492
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, how could you disagree with that? I mean, not

1493
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 7: to be a prisoner of the moment, but Jokovic, he's

1494
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 7: the biggest underdog since two thousand and five. He hadn't

1495
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 7: taken a set against Janick Center since twenty twenty four.

1496
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 7: And you know he was down two oh in his

1497
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 7: previous match with Massetti walkover before an injury, and then

1498
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 7: you had a walk over before that in the fourth round.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, pair those two together. Al KaAZ and there

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Speaker 7: have just that grit and perseverance I talked about with

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Speaker 7: al KaAZ. I mean, they're not challenging more than net

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Speaker 7: has become the new like White and the Yankees bunt

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Speaker 7: more against Kurt Shillings in the ALCS when al KaAZ

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Speaker 7: is cramping, the controversy with the cramping. Yeah, altogether, just

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Speaker 7: classic tennis pure from a fan standpoint, to watch those

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Speaker 7: two semifinals, it's.

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Speaker 1: Great talking to you and catching up again. Shelby Shelby

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Speaker 1: Dermer of the Cincinnati inquirer. I want to thank him

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Speaker 1: for joining me talking all things Xavior basketball and Grand

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Speaker 1: Slam tennis. We got to run and take a break

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