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Speaker 1: Nine oh three, Good Morning, the Signs Sealed and Delivered

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Speaker 1: montage the Monday morning montage on a Friday morning to

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Speaker 1: begin the Friday Football Feast orchestrated by Eric Nordquist, who

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Speaker 1: is mad producer, providing the second to none montages and

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Speaker 1: Signs Sealed and Delivered for the Minnesota Vikings would be

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Speaker 1: quarterback Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 2: Can you repeat the part of the stuff where you

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Speaker 2: said all about the things?

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Speaker 1: Chad Greenway, former game changing linebacker for the Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 1: courtesy of Grey Duck Vodka and Great Duck Spirits is

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Speaker 1: a Friday staple. He's part of the TimberTech What's on

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Speaker 1: Deck set list. What's on deck is Kyler Murray officially

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Speaker 1: being a quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings. And we'll start

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Speaker 1: here with the way you've seen Minnesota Vikings offense orchestrated

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two to now, how do you run offense

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Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray? So you run your end? You know

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Speaker 1: better than us.

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Speaker 3: Man. I'm preaching to somebody who plays a million plays,

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Speaker 3: But you.

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Speaker 1: Run offense the way O'Connell runs offense when he has

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Speaker 1: his compliments and he can use all facets of the field,

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Speaker 1: and he can get players to go under center and

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Speaker 1: get the play action to work and the attacking of

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Speaker 1: the middle zone and everything all right, So you have

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Speaker 1: what has shown to be mostly successful when you've had

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Speaker 1: the right components. Now you have Kyler Murray, who is

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Speaker 1: prohibitively favored to be the starting quarterback for the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Vikings in twenty twenty six. So stream your consciousness. How

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Speaker 1: do you run offense or what changes with the way

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Speaker 1: you run offense with Kyler Murray in Good morning and

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Speaker 1: good morning, thanks for having me this clue me Friday.

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Speaker 4: But I think it's it's bright and shiny and Vikings Land.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I like this. I couldn't like this more.

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Speaker 4: Actually I didn't. The turn's been released.

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Speaker 3: Have we seen that?

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Speaker 1: One and one? It's a ham sandwich deal. I mean

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Speaker 1: we can call it a deli deal, because you get

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Speaker 1: ham sandwiches, the delis love them. It's a it's you're

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Speaker 1: getting a you're getting a former Rookie of the Year

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the transition time of his career. Prove it

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Speaker 1: with somebody else willing to pay thirty five million dollars

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Speaker 1: of your bed. So it's one and one and change

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Speaker 1: and good morning and good morning. Yeah, thanks for catching

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Speaker 1: me up on that. That's why I thought I had read,

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Speaker 1: but I want to confirm before I spoke. It's a

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Speaker 1: dolly deal. You get a guy on a prove it

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Speaker 1: type of situation. We're going to come in for a

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Speaker 1: one year deal, grab that ham sandwich and take that

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Speaker 1: whole thing. I mean, the reality is that he's going

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Speaker 1: to come in here with a chip on his shoulder,

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Speaker 1: and all you really want, I think is a fan

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Speaker 1: is a guy to come in with an edge coming

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Speaker 1: with the guy.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna say, you know what I am who people

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Speaker 3: think I am.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to get this big money deal after this

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Speaker 4: again and make more money because he's already made a

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Speaker 4: bunch of money. But I think it comes down to

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Speaker 4: an ego at the end of the day, when you're

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Speaker 4: an NFL player, He's been dealing with this this entire life.

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Speaker 4: He's always what he's not the measurable. He's too short,

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Speaker 4: he can't do it, he can't see the offensive lineman,

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Speaker 4: not going to hold up on his run first mentality

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Speaker 4: in some cases he has. He's always been proving people wrong.

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Speaker 4: So in my mind, he's an underdog type of mentality.

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Speaker 4: He's going to come in here with the up on

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Speaker 4: his shoulder to say hey, I kind almost liken it

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Speaker 4: to the time that when the Vikings said, hey, we

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Speaker 4: want you to take a pay cut, you kind of

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Speaker 4: a second. So I will prove myself again like I'd

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Speaker 4: proven this to you over and over again. I can

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Speaker 4: put up numbers and I can win now in Kyler situation,

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Speaker 4: That's the part where he's got to get to is

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Speaker 4: can you get over the hump when you bring when you.

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Speaker 3: Come into Coos's offense.

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Speaker 4: I think with the weapons, he's going to have the

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Speaker 4: offensive line we're going to hopefully continue to put together.

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Speaker 3: I just love this for us.

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Speaker 4: I love how multi dimensional it makes us offensively about

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Speaker 4: creative we can get offensively and he's just hard to defend.

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Speaker 4: That's why he puts up the numbers. Now, can we

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Speaker 4: go get wins when it matters.

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Speaker 1: I spent a fair amount of time this morning researching

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's work under Center. Some amazing polarizing numbers jumped

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Speaker 1: out immediately, because I mean, you know better than anybody man.

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Speaker 1: It's awesome having one of the great linebackers and tacklers

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Speaker 1: football in studio, because well, let's just let's let's layer

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Speaker 1: it and build it from the bottom. When you're a

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Speaker 1: linebacker and a quarterback who can run, but I mean

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Speaker 1: he running legitimately is a thing with him. Yes, like

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Speaker 1: Dobbs around with his hair on fire, but he couldn't pass.

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Speaker 1: Kyler can run with his hair on fire. He cuts

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Speaker 1: and he slides and it can pass. So you have

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Speaker 1: that element when you do it from under center and

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Speaker 1: and safeties?

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Speaker 4: Man, I could tell you. And this is a running

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Speaker 4: back playing quarterback, it must be honest. He leaves the pocket,

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Speaker 4: he goes, he's leaving. He's leaving to make an impression.

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Speaker 4: He's going to get some yards going for a first time.

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Speaker 4: He might go for you know, just like the highlight

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Speaker 4: fifteen a to a touchdown. And I think when I'm

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Speaker 4: read write play action. I'm up, I'm back, I'm dropping.

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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, he's rolling. Now he's got me

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Speaker 4: in space where he wants me. This is a hard

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Speaker 4: like when you when you're you're trying to cover all

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Speaker 4: these guys because by the way, we got weapons behind you.

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Speaker 3: So we go play action. We might hand it to

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Speaker 3: a guy who can run it.

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Speaker 4: We might throw it to the top of you to

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, not there, play breaks down. Now

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Speaker 4: you're in space. You're coming from ten to twelve yards deep,

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Speaker 4: coming up on an angle on the guy that's better

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Speaker 3: Now do you do? You?

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Speaker 4: Just you say, hey, we're gonna take it a middle

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Speaker 4: linebacker or stape. We're gonna spy him, and we're gonna

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Speaker 4: take a guy out of our coverage. Well that's an

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Speaker 4: we can pick that apart. So like when you start

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Speaker 4: have a spy three technique, pop back, get our athlete

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Speaker 4: in there, popau Okay, well now you you only rush

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Speaker 4: can You can always use him as this, as this

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Speaker 4: pawn or this piece to make a defense.

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Speaker 3: Always play on its edges. And I think that's the

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Speaker 4: And there's nothing worse than you think you get a

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Speaker 4: stop third and twelve, you're dropping back all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks gotta eat it. Now, he rolls out. This is

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Speaker 4: this is not Matt Ryan coming at you. This is

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Speaker 4: the guy who can make a play.

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Speaker 1: Jack Greenway nine to noon, Great Duck Vodka, Great Duck Spirits.

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Speaker 1: There was a Kyler Murray press conference. Kevin O'Connell also

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Speaker 1: at a press conference yesterday. We carried them or most

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Speaker 1: of Kevin O'Connell's on KFA, and if you missed any

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Speaker 1: of it, we have some Kyler cutz coming up a

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Speaker 1: little later today. We have Kevin O'Connell cuts coming up

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Speaker 1: a little later today. And that's part of the TimberTech

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Speaker 1: What's on deck set list. So I went I scratched

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Speaker 1: below the surface with a couple of things here just

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Speaker 1: to see just to see what pops up, like how

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Speaker 1: frequently or effectively Kyler Murray can work under center.

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Speaker 3: He's five foot ten, so.

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Speaker 1: In a hand size, the meat hook terrorism matters for

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks when you're five to ten. I went down the

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Speaker 1: handspan road, compared it to Dante Calpepper.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to see if my man had some

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Speaker 3: meat hooks at five to ten.

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Speaker 1: But before we get into that, it is fair to

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Speaker 1: say during Kyler Murray's career with the Arizona Cardinals, he

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Speaker 1: has never had a left tackle anything close to Christian

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Speaker 1: Darisol Fox box box, never had that, never had a

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Speaker 1: receiver as good as Justin Jefferson, low hanging fruit with

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Speaker 3: Let's take it a step farther.

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Speaker 1: I can contend he's never played with a wide receiver

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Speaker 1: as good as Jordan Addison. So you got Jefferson and Addison,

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Speaker 1: and now you look back through the annals of Red

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Speaker 1: fat no on Marvin Harrison, all right. Marvin Harrison through

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Speaker 1: his first two years, Marvin Harrison Junior twelve touchdowns. Jordan

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Speaker 1: Addison had twenty in his first two seasons, including a

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Speaker 3: So Andy Isabella though, right, I mean Greg Dortsch though.

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Speaker 1: But Tray McBride fairly needs to fit into this equation,

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Speaker 1: and I'll get to it momentarily. So I think that's

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Speaker 1: now when you get into it defensively, because it's not

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Speaker 1: completely settled what the defense is going to be here.

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Speaker 1: In my estimation, you got Aaron Jones back, Okay, you

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Speaker 1: can play action off him, you can go Jordan Mason,

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Speaker 1: you can draft, you got TJ. Hockinson, you got Josh

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Speaker 1: be disputed. I know it can't be disputed. He's never

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Speaker 1: had a left tackle, which is important for a quarterback

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Speaker 1: like he has now, He's never had a Justin Jefferson

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Speaker 1: at the stage of his career. And I think Jordan

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Speaker 1: Addison is better than any receiver with whom he's been

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Speaker 1: playing during the course of his career now never having

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Speaker 1: played with that kind of talent. Let's take it a

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Speaker 1: step farther. I don't think it can be disputed. Kevin

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Speaker 1: O'Connell and his staff over Cliff Kingsbury and that group.

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Speaker 1: I think that's an absolute win for Kyler Murray. So

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Speaker 1: those are all positives. When you say chip on the

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Speaker 1: shoulder terrorism, it's is it fair to look at it

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Speaker 1: like chip on the shoulder? You because there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of people congratulating Kyler Murray, you know, on a

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Speaker 1: year one year million and change deal. Okay, well, no,

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Speaker 1: I congratulate him too. In fact, out hugg him been

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Speaker 1: asking for money. Somebody just gave you thirty five million

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Speaker 1: dollars to leave? Oh baby, but that's you know, let's

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Speaker 1: be serious here. My wife's listening.

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Speaker 3: Somebody just gave him thirty some million dollars to leave.

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Speaker 4: Unreal?

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Speaker 1: So could that be a chip on the shoulder. Take

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Speaker 1: the money part out of it. You had me, you

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Speaker 1: paid me. Yeah, we had some problems, and yes I

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Speaker 1: need to improve with ABC and D. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: I never had seventy one over there, and I think

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna like it. I never had eight team. I

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Speaker 1: never had Jordan Addison. And in my first two seasons

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Speaker 1: playing for you, mister Kingsbury twenty nineteen and twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Now he won a Rookie of the Year in twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen and he only threw twenty passing touchdowns. I didn't think,

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Speaker 1: He played zero snaps under center twenty nineteen and twenty

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Speaker 1: into the covenant to become the offensive coordinator for Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray and the Arizona Cardinals in twenty twenty four. Now

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, First and foremost, Kyler Murray's under

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Speaker 1: And you know, with respect, a lot of it was

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Speaker 1: winning from under center on O'Connell place is going to

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Speaker 1: be massive At five po ten, Can you better see

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Speaker 4: I think the bit is you see what's coming in

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Speaker 4: defense is going to be in more to static defense,

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Speaker 4: more on base defense, you know where the football's also

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Speaker 4: I thinks I think that's probably a better way to

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Speaker 3: So I mean I like that.

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Speaker 4: I mean the thing where you know, the thing we're

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Speaker 3: I think everybody was looking for this type.

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Speaker 4: But you also have to understand we're getting some of

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Speaker 1: When we've heard that with Darnold and we saw what happened, Yep,

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Speaker 3: Does that all right?

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Speaker 1: Detroit was awful and regrettable and then your bounced from

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think you do have the mentality to

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Speaker 4: your point about you know, bringing up that you know, hey,

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Speaker 4: we're paying to get rid of you mentality. That's a

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Speaker 4: We got to clean the books and start over right

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Speaker 4: with this whole thing. For us, that's an opportunity, say

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Speaker 4: we're gonna go up and get this ham sandwich deal

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Speaker 4: right and try to go He's going to rewrite his

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Speaker 3: Dollars deal again. Okay, And that's just the reality of

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Speaker 1: Well, now, a Love Covenant reporter texts me and points

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Speaker 1: out and I'm sorry I missed this. DeAndre Hopkins in

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Speaker 1: contend Jordan Addison is better than pretty much everything with

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Speaker 3: It, did it happen. Did it really happened? But it

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Speaker 1: But it's a box box, box, box box that with Darisaw,

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Speaker 5: Well, I was going back to Kingsbury and talking about

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Speaker 5: we saw that those jarring lack of under center snaps

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Speaker 5: But part of this seems also specifically characteristic of what

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Speaker 5: a degree in which we're boxing up Kyler as in,

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Speaker 5: he can't go under center, he has to be out

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Speaker 5: out statistically with Petsing's offense that he can still ball,

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Speaker 5: and even with Jayden Daniels in limited reps you're seeing.

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Speaker 5: I think it's more about the OC and the offense

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Speaker 3: Is the player. Brilliantly stated.

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Speaker 1: And I say brilliantly stated because somebody with whom I

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Speaker 1: just unpack this whole thing for you.

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Speaker 3: Right now. He knows what a play action boot with

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Speaker 1: And but for the first down part of it's really

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Speaker 1: it'll take ten of those plays for defensive coordinators to say,

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Speaker 1: I see what you're doing here. But Drew pettsing the

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Speaker 1: as offensive coordinator in Arizona twenty twenty four. Kyler played

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Speaker 1: twenty five percent of his snaps under center in twenty

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Speaker 1: Seven touchdowns, three interceptions, passer rating one O one point three.

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Speaker 1: We talked about the first down and the key elements there.

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Speaker 1: We know that in twenty twenty four, the Minnesota in

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Speaker 4: now you just add another weapon in the middle of

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Speaker 4: the field, this guy that they have to they have

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Speaker 4: to consider as a massive weapon. And by the way,

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Speaker 4: we have a quarterback and they can use his feet

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Speaker 4: and run. Oh by the way, we have these these

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Speaker 4: freaks on the outside, the receivers that can go play. And oh,

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Speaker 4: by the way, we have stabled running backs with an

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Speaker 4: offensive line the stable and we would draft something big.

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Speaker 4: So reality is, is you feel good about where we're at.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited, you know when I saw this announced yesterday,

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Speaker 4: I was just it just gives you. It gives you

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Speaker 4: something to look forward to from a season where you

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Speaker 4: know we're gonna have a direction with an experienced quarterback,

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Speaker 4: that's put up some crazy numbers and done some crazy

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Speaker 4: things and it's exciting. So from a fan base, let's

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Speaker 4: go by the way, if you would like to submit

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Speaker 3: You got up to thirty.

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Speaker 1: Seconds to chat about what you think about this Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray officially joining the Minnesota Vikings and what excites you

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Speaker 1: about that Heading into twenty twenty six, we can disperse

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Speaker 1: timber tech dot Com. What's on deck today include some

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Speaker 1: of Kyle cuts with a Chad Greenway sticking around for

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Speaker 1: the next segment, Mike Florio Pro Football Talk dot Com.

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Speaker 1: He joins twenty minutes from now. Alex Lewis, who covers

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Speaker 1: the team for the Athletic He'll be on the radio

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Speaker 1: at ten o'clock and in booth analyst for the KFA

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota Vikings audio network. Pete Bursts joins the conversation

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Speaker 1: at eleven Nordo produces and I'm Paul Allen. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to f M one hundred point three kfan. This has

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Speaker 1: become your Kyler Covenant leader.

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Speaker 6: I totally get the under center argument. The problem is

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Speaker 6: is I don't think he's tall enough. I'm not trying

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Speaker 6: to troll. I just worry he's not tall enough.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good morning guys.

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Speaker 2: Midcheer from South Saint Paul. So after seeing the signing

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Speaker 2: about Kyler Murray, I mean, it is pretty exciting, mainly

474
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Speaker 2: for the reason that we can get a number one

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Speaker 2: overall pick for one point three to six million dollars.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't beat that. And I just think

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Speaker 2: he's going to be highly motivated. I mean, how much

478
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Speaker 2: effort can you really give when you're working for the

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Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals. I mean, let's just be real here. So

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Speaker 2: I mean he's definitely going to be an upgrade. He's definitely,

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Speaker 2: you know, moving up. So I feel like him and

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Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell are going to do some great things this year.

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Speaker 3: Thanks brother.

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Speaker 1: It definitely is The Minnesota Vikings definitely mean more percentage

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Speaker 1: wise to a fan base in Minnesota than the Arizona

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Speaker 1: Cardinals do in the state of Arizona. Just it's a

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Speaker 1: more of a trangent state where people relocate Arizona and

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Speaker 1: it really isn't even a conversation, So we'll see how

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Speaker 1: that translates into what's next for Kyler Murray, who spoke

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Speaker 1: with the Collective media yesterday so via zoom. Alex Lewis

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Speaker 1: was one of the one of the people peppering Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray with questions. I'll join nine to noon about thirty

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Speaker 1: minutes from now. Meanwhile, got some Kyler cuts for you. Yeah, indeed,

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Speaker 1: we'll start out here.

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Speaker 5: I believe Kyler growing up as a Vikings fan, is

496
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Speaker 5: talking about a game that our in studio guest Chad

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Speaker 5: Greenway is all too familiar with.

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Speaker 7: Ever since I started playing tackle football I was seven

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Speaker 7: years old.

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Speaker 3: I was seven years old.

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Speaker 7: Genuine, genuine fandom, you know, ran deep Vikings gear through

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Speaker 7: and through.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to bring it up right now, but

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Speaker 3: maybe later another day. It was a lot, it was

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Speaker 3: a moment. I'll bring it up anyways.

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Speaker 7: Whatever I cried, I cried real tears whenever, you know,

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Speaker 7: whenever bred through that interception, I've cried real tiers.

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Speaker 4: That the.

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Speaker 3: See.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll allow us three to be numbers one thousand

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Speaker 1: to one, two and three.

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Speaker 3: To say same, Yeah, we yeah, we did too. He

513
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Speaker 3: was he was baby Kyler back then, loving the Vikings

514
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Speaker 3: and somewhere in Texas where he's.

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Speaker 1: From, he had his game Warn five. The problem is

516
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Speaker 1: he didn't have his game Warren Tracy Porter.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, now that now, you know, differences in stages of life.

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Speaker 5: He cried and he was maybe ten years old at

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Speaker 5: the time. I was twenty five. Yeah, I was twenty

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Speaker 5: five and then tearing up as part of that. How

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Speaker 5: about this Here is Kyler chatting about his relationship with

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Speaker 5: Kevin O'Connell.

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Speaker 7: And me and k will go back to the lead

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Speaker 7: eleven days. I remember, you know, during the combine, I

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Speaker 7: did you know, I had an interview with the Redskins

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Speaker 7: at the time commanders and he was with them, and

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Speaker 7: he pulled me aside after my meeting with him, and

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Speaker 7: ever since then our relationship, he's always made sure to

529
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Speaker 7: check in on me, whether it was after a game,

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Speaker 7: you know, things like that. So I always respected that.

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Speaker 7: I always appreciated his opinion of me and the support

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Speaker 7: that he's given me. So for now, you know, getting

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Speaker 7: to play for him and have that relationship with him

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Speaker 7: means the world. Obviously, he's had a lot of success

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Speaker 7: with quarterbacks, different quarterbacks, and he's he's one of the

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Speaker 7: best offensive minds in the game.

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Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to, you know, going to work

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Speaker 3: with him. How does it turn out what free agency

539
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Speaker 3: is over? That is the only important thing.

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Speaker 5: Murray would later be talking about. Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson

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Speaker 5: his new teammate. I'm sure I'll talk to him here

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Speaker 5: pretty soon. But my last real interaction with Jess at

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Speaker 5: the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 7: At the Pro Bowl, you know, we obviously got to

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Speaker 7: spend some time together. Obviously, I'm super Everybody knows what

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Speaker 7: type of talent he is, what type of player he is,

547
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Speaker 7: and his abilities through the roof. You know again, I'm

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Speaker 7: just super excited to get to work with him, be

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Speaker 7: able to call him a teammate, get to go to

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Speaker 7: war with him.

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Speaker 3: He loves their biggest star, There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray has two games in his career where he

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Speaker 1: has run for at least one hundred yards. So we

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback who mostly responsibly runs and has two

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Speaker 1: games with at least one hundred yards The Carolina the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals during those games are zero and two. But

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Speaker 1: nevertheless he got wheels. Geez, yeah, he is.

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Speaker 5: I think last year he had a forty four and

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Speaker 5: a fifty yard rushing TD in different games last year.

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Speaker 5: Continuing on Kyler cuts, Kyler Murray specific to the scheme

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Speaker 5: so part of the conversation last segment, he believes he

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Speaker 5: can be successful in what Keo's offense is going to

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Speaker 5: offer him.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to put any limitation on what that

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Speaker 7: looks like. Again, I know he's had tremendous amount of

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Speaker 7: success with multiple different quarterbacks. I know what Muscle said

567
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Speaker 7: brings to the game. I know what I'm capable of,

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Speaker 7: and I think that you know. Again, like I said,

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Speaker 7: I'm ready to come in and compete and I can't

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Speaker 7: wait to be under his two levision. Like I said,

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Speaker 7: get to go to war with not only not only

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Speaker 7: just with him too with Kyler.

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Speaker 1: One thing that I left out, Chad, if you haven't

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Speaker 1: seen this, read this, heard this, or the complexity or

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Speaker 1: the part of the deal that that absolutely is important

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Speaker 1: a topic is it's a Deli deal, all right, one year,

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Speaker 1: a million in change.

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Speaker 3: It's a ham sandwich deal. Somebody else is paying the frame.

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Speaker 1: Secondly, Kyler Murray was able to negotiate after twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: You can't franchise me, which is predictable, and it's fair.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I do believe that we need to

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Speaker 3: remember the money.

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Speaker 1: Guy Razinsky, the most well respected capologist in the history

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Speaker 1: of the NFL, is the acting general manager. If they

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Speaker 1: like Kyler Murray and it works this year, they'll have

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Speaker 1: money for Kyler Murray to move forward.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're going to fight a way and he's going

588
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Speaker 4: to make that space. And he's proven of this last

589
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Speaker 4: you know, two to three weeks to create space to

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Speaker 4: go us make a little bit of a splashing free

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Speaker 4: agency obviously, prepare for the draft and work with these

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Speaker 4: guys and their agents, and that relationship really matters. When

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Speaker 4: he comes down to Brazensky talking to these agents, trusting

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Speaker 4: what he's doing and then just doing what he says

595
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Speaker 4: is so import in this business to keep guys happy,

596
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Speaker 4: to say, Hey, here's how we're going to sweetheart this deal.

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Speaker 4: Get the cash up front loaded, We're gonna move this

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Speaker 4: money around. It's gonna be reduced our number in the cap.

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Speaker 4: Here's how we can free some stuff up. Being creative.

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Speaker 4: That comes down to relationships. It comes down to agents

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Speaker 4: trusting and looking and saying, do you want to be

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Speaker 4: here to play for this organization? What's the path, what's

603
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 4: the path? What's such a trajectory? So I, you know,

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Speaker 4: trusting his process. And to your point is if it's

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Speaker 4: this isn't a one and done and he'll find a

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Speaker 4: way to get something done creatively, you know, over on

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Speaker 4: a three year deal to extend this thing after one.

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Speaker 4: If it's if we like what we see, no out

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Speaker 4: about it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and the you know, there's been a lot of

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Speaker 5: conversation like going for Kyler Murray. The way I was

612
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Speaker 5: kind of framing it up and maybe I even chatted

613
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Speaker 5: with you and when you were in here with me

614
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Speaker 5: is when we were speaking about Geno Smith, that felt

615
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Speaker 5: like a bridge. He's older in his career and this

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Speaker 5: this is an opportunity for for McCarthy to learn something

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Speaker 5: and to grow, take you know, valuable healthy time as

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Speaker 5: QB two and then re emerge. Similar maybe with with

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Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins, et cetera. The Kyler Murray thing's different. The

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Speaker 5: Kyler Murray thing is not a bridge because if Kyler

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Speaker 5: Murray shows out in twenty twenty six and PA laying

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Speaker 5: out the weapons he's had that he hasn't had before,

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Speaker 5: the left tackle, the scheme, the coaching, everything, if he

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Speaker 5: has a terrific twenty twenty six after what the Wolfs saw.

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Speaker 3: Sam Darnold do a year ago, letting him leave.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Brazinski can work his magic, but nobody's going

627
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Speaker 5: to be as excited about the idea of big game

628
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Speaker 5: hunting and keeping Kyler Murray in the building.

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Speaker 3: Then the Wolfs themselves.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, you're not gonna let another one go to

631
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Speaker 4: win a super Bowl someplace else. I mean, we just

632
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Speaker 4: got to see this play out. Let you know, obviously

633
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Speaker 4: it's day one, you know, and we're thinking splashy, We're

634
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Speaker 4: thinking long term, We're thinking this could be a really

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Speaker 4: huge dub. I think, let this offseason play out, and

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Speaker 4: I think when you get to August, we're going to

637
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Speaker 4: know a lot more about our team and how we're

638
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Speaker 4: structured to know and trust what we're going to be.

639
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Speaker 3: And if we don't know, people will tell us.

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Speaker 4: So I think the reality is, is you feel good

641
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Speaker 4: about his mentality coming into the organization, This prove it mentality,

642
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 4: this underdog mentality, This I'm gonna work with Koc to

643
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 4: squeeze every drop of talent out of my body and

644
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Speaker 4: you know, fulfill this potential that I have and from

645
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Speaker 4: koc perspective. Let's get creative and let's have some fun

646
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Speaker 4: because this guy can you know, can put so much

647
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Speaker 4: stress on a defense, and it's gonna it's gonna help

648
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Speaker 4: our defense playing against him.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna help our defense as well in.

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Speaker 4: Training camp and just get those looks and prepare for

651
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Speaker 4: guys like Camusc throughout the year. So I'm fired up

652
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Speaker 4: for it because why wouldn't you be, you know, homework

653
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Speaker 4: through and through.

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Speaker 5: Here we go and here he is talking about just this,

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Speaker 5: the the one year bit, and then I want to

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Speaker 5: kind of transition to a health related question.

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Speaker 3: But first the one year deal.

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Speaker 7: Contractually, it doesn't really doesn't really make a difference to me.

659
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Speaker 7: Every year to me is go out and approve a year.

660
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Speaker 7: Every time I step between those white lines, I'll tell

661
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Speaker 7: you pride and and you know how I play the game,

662
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Speaker 7: what I bring to the game, and I just want

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Speaker 7: want my teammates to know that I'm riding for regardless

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Speaker 7: of the circumstances, you know, and then they can count

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Speaker 7: on me. So contractually, like I said, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 7: to me. I'm gonna give this organization everything I got.

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Speaker 1: And how does Kyler Murray play the game this We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have some Ko cuts for you later about an

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Speaker 1: hour from now. Some sound bites from Kevin O'Connell, coach

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Speaker 1: of the Minnesota Vikings, off of press conference yesterday involving

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Will Raggitts, who covers the team for Sports Illustrated.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's Sports Illustrated he I'm looking at a

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Speaker 1: tweet of his right now with a Kevin O'Connell quote.

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Speaker 1: When you actually dive in and really study Kyler's experience

675
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Speaker 1: at the position, you do see a lot of really great,

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Speaker 1: great qualities that fit into some of the things we

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Speaker 1: ask our quarterbacks to do. I think Kyler's an accurate player.

678
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Speaker 1: I think he's learned to play with really solid fundamentals

679
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Speaker 1: in the past game he can make all the throws.

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Speaker 1: So you'll hear a little bit from Kevin O'Connell later.

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray signed by the Minnesota Vikings yesterday. Have yourself

682
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Speaker 1: a wonderful weekend. Anything big with Gray Duck.

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Speaker 4: Coming up, Nothing big, nothing new, nothing splashy, but just

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Speaker 4: you know, consistent, prepare for spring and you know snowstell coming.

685
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Speaker 4: So before you buckle down this weekend of Friday, you'll

686
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Speaker 4: go stop buy a local retailer, maybe a top ten

687
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: you know, you know, pop in there, go grab yourself

688
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Speaker 4: a nice bottle of great Duck. Pour yourself something that

689
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Speaker 4: I take the edge off, because that storm's coming sixteen

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Speaker 4: inches coming your way and you know we'll survive.

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Speaker 3: It would be spring before you know it. It's a

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Speaker 3: long year, everybody, Just relax. That's gonna be all right.

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Speaker 1: See a letter byy doct Jack Murray, Way, great Doc Voker,

694
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Speaker 1: Great Duck Spirits. Mike Florio, ProFootball Talk dot Com joins us.

695
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Speaker 1: And here's Mike Florio from Pro football Talk dot com.

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Speaker 1: Great having you joined. Thank you very much. Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: on a ham sandwich deal. What are you thinking about this?

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Speaker 1: And good morning, well.

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Speaker 8: Good morning. Look, this is what needed to happen last year,

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Speaker 8: not that it would have been Kyler Murray, but they

701
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Speaker 8: needed to have somebody with high end veterans starting experience

702
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Speaker 8: who was in position to compete with supplant replace whatever,

703
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Speaker 8: JJ McCarthy. And that has, best I can tell, was

704
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Speaker 8: a internal battle that Kevin O'Connell lost. And now through

705
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 8: that experience and the way everything turned out and the

706
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Speaker 8: ultimate twenty twenty five performances of Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones,

707
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Speaker 8: and even Aaron Rodgers who went to the playoffs. It's

708
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Speaker 8: enough to create the ammunition necessary to get Kyler Murray

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Speaker 8: in the door. It's a perfect situation for the capstrat Vikings.

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Speaker 8: One point three million paid by Minnesota thirty five point

711
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Speaker 8: five million paid by the Cardinals. The note tag clause

712
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 8: was critical that helps Kyler Murray avoid franchise or transition

713
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Speaker 8: tag next year if everything goes incredibly well, puts the

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Speaker 8: Vikings in a position where they'll need to get him

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Speaker 8: resigned if they decide to do it. Good problem to have,

716
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Speaker 8: But I think that it sets the stage for Murray

717
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Speaker 8: to be the guy who's in the position to basically

718
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Speaker 8: be the starter, with the caveat that it's his job

719
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Speaker 8: to lose. I don't think that this move was made

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Speaker 8: to have a true, open and complete competition. I think

721
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Speaker 8: Murray comes through the door as the wink nod presumed starter,

722
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Speaker 8: and I think once both guys get on the practice field,

723
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Speaker 8: the players are going to realize the fundamental difference in

724
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Speaker 8: the skill sets between the two players.

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Speaker 3: End of the equation.

726
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Speaker 1: And perhaps you've written about this and I missed it

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Speaker 1: Pro Footballtalk dot Com NBC's Football Night in America. So

728
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Speaker 1: why would Arizona pay him nearly thirty six million dollars

729
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Speaker 1: or whatever to leave?

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Speaker 8: We've seen this happen now three times in the last

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Speaker 8: two years. When you have a quarterback who has guaranteed

732
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Speaker 8: money on the books for this year, but if you

733
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Speaker 8: keep him, you're going to unlock more guaranteed money next year,

734
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Speaker 8: you see the decision made to cut the cord and

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Speaker 8: eat the guarantees. Now. We saw with Russell Wilson two

736
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Speaker 8: years ago in Denver, they paid him thirty nine million

737
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Speaker 8: minus the one point twenty to one million, which was

738
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Speaker 8: the veteran minimum salary at the time. That's what he

739
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Speaker 8: got in Pittsburgh. We're seeing it this year with both

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Speaker 8: Murray and tuatoguo I Loa. Although the Dolphins would have

741
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Speaker 8: only picked up another three million in guarantees next year,

742
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Speaker 8: they owe him fifty four million this year minus the

743
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Speaker 8: one point three he'll make in Atlanta. They just wanted

744
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Speaker 8: to move on from to a tongo I Loa. They

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Speaker 8: could have kept him on the roster because they're paying

746
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Speaker 8: him anyway, they save one point three million and avoid

747
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Speaker 8: next year's three million by moving on. So this is

748
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Speaker 8: a dynamic when we get to these failed quarterback contracts

749
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Speaker 8: where a team already has money that it's going to

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Speaker 8: pay this year, it's trying to turn the page and

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Speaker 8: it's willing to pay the money, and it puts other

752
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Speaker 8: teams in a position where they can get the player

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Speaker 8: for a lot less than what he would have cost

754
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Speaker 8: on the open market. There's no reason for Kyler Murray

755
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 8: to ask for a penny beyond one point three because

756
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 8: everything he makes this year gets credited against the thirty

757
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Speaker 8: six to eight that Arizona owes him. The only time

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Speaker 8: you're going to see it be an issue would be

759
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 8: like with Kirk Cousins, who's guaranteed ten million this year

760
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 8: from the Falcons. He's going to make more than ten million,

761
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 8: so the Falcons are going to get that ten million back.

762
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Speaker 8: When the number is higher than the player's market value,

763
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 8: that's when the players should say, as we've seen Wilson

764
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Speaker 8: and Kyler and to Ado, I'll take the minimum and

765
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Speaker 8: my former team can pay me the rest. And it

766
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Speaker 8: results in the Cardinals paying thirty five point five million

767
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 8: this year to Kyler Murray, while the Vikings pay one

768
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Speaker 8: point three million for him to play for the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: P FT with the just as an aside for a

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Speaker 1: second Mike with Meagan and the Atlanta Falcons. All right,

771
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: so they roll on two up in like a second

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Speaker 1: after legal tampering begins and free agency begins, and of

773
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Speaker 1: course they have Michael Pennix. Perhaps you and Chris Sims

774
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: or you thought this thing out during the course of

775
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: this week at the profootballtalk dot com. Have you ever

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00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: known a quarterback situation one to two starter back up

777
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: to both be left handed? I mean, I've never seen

778
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: or heard of that, and unless I'm missing something, what

779
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 1: about you.

780
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 8: I have never noticed it, which means it's likely never happened.

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Speaker 8: I'm a left hander, so I'm partial to the other

782
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 8: lefties out there. The world is constructed for the benefit

783
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Speaker 8: of right handed people, as the smear of grapt fight

784
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 8: on the side of my left hand would prove every

785
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 8: day in grade school as you drag your hand across

786
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Speaker 8: the stuff you've written. So the whole world is set

787
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 8: up for righties. So I'm always paying attention to lefties.

788
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Speaker 8: And I told Sims he should come out of retirement

789
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Speaker 8: be number three because he's a Lefty two.

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00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 1: How with Kyler Murray and what you followed since twenty

791
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: nineteen through now and doing some deep diving on his

792
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: situation in Arizona this morning. Cliff Kingsbury, when he was

793
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: the coach Kyler Murray Rookie of the Year in twenty nineteen,

794
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: he didn't play out of it. He didn't play under

795
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: center one time in twenty nineteen or twenty twenty, I

796
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: mean zero. And in twenty twenty four Drew Petsing now

797
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: the coordinate for the Detroit Lions, he rolls in and

798
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: Kyler's under center snap percentage went way up. And that's

799
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: very important to execute the play action obviously, But just

800
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: with everything with Kyler, how gifted truly do you think

801
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: he is?

802
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 8: Well? He was the number one overall pick in twenty

803
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 8: nineteen for a reason. He was the Heisman Trophy winner

804
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 8: in twenty eighteen for a reason. He was the offensive

805
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 8: rookie of the year. He was a Pro Bowler in

806
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 8: twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, and that was with Kingsbury,

807
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 8: who and all due respect to Kingsbury, one of the

808
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 8: reasons that Patrick Mahomes wasn't the consensus top quarterback in

809
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 8: twenty seventeen, he went eight spots behind Mitch Trubisky. Cliff

810
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 8: Kingsbury didn't exactly get the most out of Patrick Mahomes

811
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 8: at Texas Tech. There were mechanical flaws that people were

812
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 8: concerned about, so he wasn't coached up to the level

813
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 8: that he's been coached up in Kansas City by Andy Reid.

814
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Speaker 8: And now you go from Kingsbury to Kevin O'Connell for

815
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 8: Kyler Murray. Is it possible that Kingsbury was just scratching

816
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 8: the surface of those first three years. I don't know.

817
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 8: We'll find out. It went sideways for Murray and the

818
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 8: Cardinals in twenty twenty two when someone out there got

819
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 8: the bright idea to try to jam a homework clause

820
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 8: into his contract that made everybody look stupid. It poisoned

821
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 8: the relationship. I believe it set the stage for what's

822
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 8: happened now. As I said, when it first became clear

823
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 8: the Cardinals were going to release him, the moment that

824
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 8: they were so concerned about his overall work ethic and

825
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 8: his study habits that they were going to put in

826
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Speaker 8: writing a requirement that he spent a certain number of

827
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 8: hours per week studying that's when they should have traded him.

828
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Speaker 8: That's when they should have recognized this isn't the answer.

829
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Speaker 8: If we have this kind of misgivings about the most

830
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 8: important position on the team, and if we truly believe

831
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 8: that this guy has spending too much time playing video

832
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 8: games and not enough time studying and we need him

833
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 8: to do more, and we feel it to the point

834
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Speaker 8: that we're going to put it in writing in his contract,

835
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Speaker 8: that's when they should have traded him, because they would

836
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 8: have gotten a lot more out of him. And then

837
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 8: they're getting nothing. Now they're paying thirty five point five

838
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 8: million and the last four years have not been good

839
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 8: for the Arizona Cardinals. This is one of the reasons

840
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 8: why bad teams stay bad, and this is why there's

841
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 8: cause for cautious optimism that this could work out really,

842
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 8: really well. There's a chance that Kyler Murray is a

843
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 8: much better quarterback than we've ever seen because he had

844
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,959
Speaker 8: been stuck for seven years with one of the worst

845
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Speaker 8: franchises in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I'm glad you said that, because the Vikings,

847
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 1: you know, from a cap a salary cap standpoint, are

848
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: balling on a budget this year. But like Kyler plays

849
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: extremely well, and it's fair to recognize that maybe the

850
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: most well respected capologists in the history of the NFL,

851
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: Rob Brazinski is the acting GM. So if they want

852
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: Kyler back, and Kyler wants to be here off of

853
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: good twenty six, they'll have money for him. They'll find

854
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: money for him. I'm not really dripping about that. Speaking

855
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: of Brazenski, did you get a chance to sit down

856
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: with them or meet him in Indianapolis?

857
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 8: I did not see him in Indianapolis. And our request

858
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 8: to the Vikings for Kevin O'Connell and I don't know

859
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 8: if we asked for Rob, but it was respectfully declined,

860
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 8: and that happens. We still had plenty of people to

861
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 8: talk to. We'd been talking to Kevin every year, though

862
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 8: this is kind of a weird year. They had a

863
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 8: lot of heavy listening to do to get under the cap.

864
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 8: The quarterback situation was hovering over the franchise. We knew

865
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 8: they were going to do something, we didn't know who.

866
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Speaker 8: The best possible outcome is to get Kyler Murray for

867
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Speaker 8: one point three million. They were probably trying to keep

868
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Speaker 8: their cards as close to the vest as possible as

869
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Speaker 8: it all played out and now we'll see what happens.

870
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Speaker 8: And you mentioned the possibility of extending after the year. Hey,

871
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Speaker 8: if this thing is going well after Halloween, I think

872
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 8: they need to swoop in and get it done. I

873
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 8: don't think you wait any day you wait. If he's

874
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 8: playing well, the price goes up as he gets closer

875
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Speaker 8: and closer to free agency. And the fact that he

876
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 8: grew up a Vikings fan that's encouraging because it makes

877
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 8: him more likely to stick around. The caution would be,

878
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 8: don't lowball him because of that. Pay him a fair

879
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 8: deal if he looks like he could become the guy

880
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Speaker 8: who's the five to six seven year answer. Who knows?

881
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 8: Who knows? The Vikings haven't had a guy who's stabilized

882
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 8: the position for half a decade since Dante Culpepper, and

883
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 8: that's what they were looking forward with JJ McCarthy. So

884
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 8: if he does turn out to be that guy, don't

885
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 8: mess around, get a deal done and get his future

886
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 8: security in Minnesota so you don't have to worry about

887
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Speaker 8: some other team swooping in and offering him the kind

888
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 8: of money the Vikings don't want to pay. Come twenty

889
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 8: twenty seven, then look, look again, that's many steps down

890
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Speaker 8: the road. Many dominoes have to fall just right to

891
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 8: get to that point. Ye, but part of the long

892
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 8: term planning needs to include allowing for the possibility that

893
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 8: they're going to know after October thirty one that this

894
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Speaker 8: is the guy and not screwing around and waiting too

895
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Speaker 8: long to get it done.

896
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Speaker 3: Any idea what's next with Kirko James.

897
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Speaker 8: I think his best play go to Arizona. That's where

898
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Speaker 8: That's where Mike Lafleur is the new head coach. Mike

899
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Speaker 8: Lafleur comes from La Sean McVay, the McVay Shanahan hive,

900
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Speaker 8: loves Kirk Cousins, and I just think it makes a

901
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 8: ton of sense for the Cardinals to take a long

902
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Speaker 8: look at Kirk Cousins because they don't have anyone now.

903
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Speaker 8: People think Jakoby Risset's going to be the starter. He

904
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Speaker 8: hasn't been told he's a starter. That was reported earlier

905
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Speaker 8: this week by ESPN. So they signed Gardner Minshew to

906
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Speaker 8: be a backup. They were going to sign Jimmy Garoppolo,

907
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 8: but it was reported by Ben Vollen of the Boston

908
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 8: Globe that the talks with Garoppolo hit a snag. They

909
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 8: will be doing something, and the something that makes the

910
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 8: most sense is Kirk Cousins unless he decides to wait

911
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Speaker 8: and see what happens in Pittsburgh where the Steelers are

912
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 8: once again, they're like that dog that's got its nose

913
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Speaker 8: pressed against the front window waiting for the owner to

914
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Speaker 8: come home. And last year Aaron Rodgers did. They're waiting

915
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Speaker 8: for Rogers again. But if they wait for Rogers, other

916
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 8: options are drying up. Gino Smith would have made sense

917
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Speaker 8: in Pittsburgh. He's going to be a jet. Kyler Murray

918
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Speaker 8: could have made sense for the Steelers. That's obviously done.

919
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Speaker 8: Now Kirk makes sense for the Steelers. Does he want

920
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Speaker 8: to wait and see what happens? And that's really the question.

921
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Speaker 8: But the Cardinals make the most sense. The problem is

922
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Speaker 8: from Kirk's perspective. I mean the Cardinals. I mean, this

923
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Speaker 8: isn't anti Cardinals, this is pro reality. You're in a

924
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Speaker 8: division with the Rams, Seahawks and forty nine Ers. You

925
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 8: can go ahead and renovate the basement in the NFC West.

926
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Speaker 8: You're going to be staying there for a while.

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Speaker 1: Jeff George was excited to fist bump with you at

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Speaker 1: the combine, so thanks for doing that well.

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Speaker 8: The folks on the Score in Chicago were confused by

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Speaker 8: the interruption to my paid appearance there, but they got

931
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Speaker 8: to kick out of the fact that Jeff George came up.

932
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Speaker 8: It's always funny to meet one of these prototypical NFL

933
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Speaker 8: quarterbacks in person, because the first thought is where's the beanstalk?

934
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Speaker 8: You just slid down.

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Speaker 1: And he's so big. I had forgotten how tall he was,

936
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Speaker 1: and he's still kind of sturdy. I greatly appreciate you

937
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Speaker 1: coming on the radio show today. I have a wonderful

938
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Speaker 1: weekend and we'll stay in touch. Hi, Paul, see you

939
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Speaker 1: bout Mike Florio p ft. You know we ProFootball talk

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Speaker 1: dot com discussing new Minnesota Vikings quarterback Kyler Murray.

941
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Speaker 3: On a one year, one million and change deal.

942
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Speaker 1: Alec Lewis did good work at the press conference yesterday

943
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Speaker 1: with Murray and Kevin O'Connell and Alec Lewis of the

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Speaker 1: Athletic Joins US