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Speaker 2: Dan Yeah, Dan, yes, I think I earlier I didn't

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Speaker 3: You misspoke.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about what we were talking about. The

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Speaker 2: hot tidy. Yeah, that's not and I've had them, so

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Speaker 4: It's not like that you heat that up.

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Speaker 2: No, in this case, now hot Teddy, it's got like whiskey,

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Speaker 2: gentlely rye whiskey, and they put like a lemon juice

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Speaker 2: it's very very you know, if you got a throat problem,

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Speaker 2: hot toddy is the way to go. So I just

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of that five oh seven guy, Well, even

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Speaker 1: though as Monika is his name is Ben in Minneapolis writes,

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Speaker 1: Carl is a fraud. A hot Toddy is whiskey, lemon juice,

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Speaker 1: honey and hot water. Just another example Wisconsin thinking they

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Speaker 2: I got confused, Dan, And I also, have you ever

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Speaker 3: I have not. I'm not at either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you said, yeah, damn have you said about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a power horrible and amplify. Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: Even Well, you would be an angry drunk I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know, or maybe yeah, maybe you'd be obybe'd be positive.

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Speaker 2: He's a he's a he's an angry sober person.

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Speaker 3: We know that that much is for sure.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you're somebody's math is very screwed up, because here

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Speaker 1: are the records, Gerby twenty five and seventeen, guards He

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Speaker 1: twenty two and twenty and somehow I'm seventeen and thirty five.

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Speaker 1: I think that should be seventeen and twenty five. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's my which usually it's just my thing.

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Speaker 2: Is so stupid that that's what that's what's happening.

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Speaker 1: So sort of like the Minnesota Vikings, I'm on the

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Speaker 1: but we got what is it?

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Speaker 2: Find that what you're saying to me on the verge, That's.

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Speaker 3: What I said, Well, not mathematically eliminated.

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Speaker 2: Ancient ancient Phoenicians have a better history than you. You

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Speaker 3: We're in the hunt, in the hunt. Were in the

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Speaker 4: Hunt for what for?

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Speaker 3: Third place?

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Speaker 4: Number one draft choice?

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Speaker 2: And you have to lose a little bit more.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not.

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Speaker 3: We're not going to lose enough for that. That's what

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Speaker 3: we do.

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Speaker 5: That.

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Speaker 3: Well, we screwed that up last week. Very true?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, you did.

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Speaker 3: We all got the vikings last week. Yeah, we did.

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Speaker 1: Actually that's true. I don't even know what other one

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Speaker 1: week last week he did. Yeah, it definitely was Rams Lions.

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Speaker 1: Nice little matchup there. That game is in LA and

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Speaker 3: What the Lions do last week?

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Speaker 1: The Lions ended up They beat the Cowboys, They beat

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Speaker 1: the They took care that their offense was extremely good. Rams.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of points. I'm gonna take the Rams

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Speaker 1: to cover guardsy, I think I am right there with you.

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Speaker 1: I think the Rams are the best team in the NFC.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to.

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Speaker 1: Take I'm going to take the Rams to cover as

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Speaker 3: No, then.

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Speaker 2: That's just what is with you, guys.

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Speaker 5: I mean say things.

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Speaker 2: The power of the sports talk is that people just

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 2: Let me, I'm gonna make a controversial prediction. Okay, the

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Speaker 2: tit's not making the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: They're not going to be in the playoffs. They're not.

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Speaker 3: So you're saying the Bears are not going to collapse and.

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Speaker 2: Say that they probably will not. It's unlikely. They got

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Speaker 2: They'll lose to us one more time. But here the

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Speaker 4: But they're not.

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Speaker 2: So the Rams will beat them and they will cover.

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Speaker 3: Uh, game number two. Green Bay is in Denver. How

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Speaker 1: Ten and three, eleven and two, eleven and two and

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Speaker 3: Uh, I gotta be honest with you.

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Speaker 4: Bay here, here's just do it. What happens to you.

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Speaker 1: Here's the rub as they said, here's the rubby, as

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Speaker 1: they say, in the business, your defense, much vauntage.

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Speaker 2: What business? What business? They say, here's the rubby, and

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Speaker 3: With from Verne's business.

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Speaker 1: So, in all honesty, your defense. The second half was reeling.

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Speaker 1: on the run. I'm here's what I'm picking Denver to

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Speaker 1: It's going to continue. Your club's going down in Denver

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Speaker 1: in the what we're stay in the business, the Rocky

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Speaker 1: Mountain stick Guardsy are you okay, Carl, here's just stupid.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, go ahead, you can do it too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't love the Broncos, as everybody knows. But

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Speaker 1: Here's the Packers progression. They're pure progression. Recently. What they'll do,

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Speaker 1: What they'll they'll do here. They're going to Denver and

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a clunker. They're not going to

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Speaker 1: They don't handle when it wasn't it the second week

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Speaker 3: I'm with Dan, what do you think, Carl? Yes, if

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: He's The thing is that you still think they're learning things.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you they are learning things. I'm telling you

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Speaker 2: that coach Matt has now got them to say because

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Speaker 2: And I'm so tired of people saying bad things about

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Speaker 2: saying that there's mighty to be made against the Denver defense,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna make it. So we will cover the

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Speaker 2: not gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lose the rest of the year.

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Speaker 2: Not losing the rest of the year.

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Speaker 1: So regular season and postseason, all that louson the of

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Speaker 1: with losing, so you're taking the Packers to cover.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I am That's what all the smack people

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are at home, favored by five and a half

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Speaker 1: Dallas is favored by five and a half points over

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Speaker 1: Dallas to win the game and Dallas to cover. Guardsie,

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Speaker 1: Vikings are going to cover. I'm a believer again in

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Speaker 1: he's excited. I'm going Vikings are going to make this

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Speaker 3: Karl.

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Speaker 2: The lights get pretty bright and and you play at

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Speaker 4: They do, and yeah, I do.

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Speaker 2: And neither of these teams has any defense worth speaking of.

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Speaker 2: And I just think that the final scores will be

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Speaker 2: I think it was fun for you guys last week.

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Speaker 2: It might not be that close. It might not because

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Speaker 2: because Dak Prescott's I don't know, if you know, it's

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Speaker 2: having bigger year, and let's for this, they played very

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Speaker 2: So I think that we're not gonna cover it. It's

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Speaker 3: This is from emailer Rob. I purpose if I know

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Speaker 3: it's an exclamation one.

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Speaker 1: I purposely don't turn on the Beast until after four

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Speaker 1: pm on Fridays during the season because the Wisconsin fraud.

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Speaker 1: Why is he still on finish this segment already?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Another one, another one of your fans.

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Speaker 4: I guess, Carl, What's what's the guy's name?

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Speaker 3: Rob?

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Speaker 2: Rob doesn't like the segment. Oh, too bad for Rob.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Rob, I'm really worried about what you

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Speaker 2: Minnesota You're a loser, and I was gonna be a loser,

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Speaker 2: and the rest of the people, Minister are loser and youstomer

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Speaker 3: Tired of listening to that nonsense.

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Speaker 3: Is that about it? It was wonderful.

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Speaker 1: It's your favorite basketball team is on national TV tonight

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Speaker 1: He's out Conley Mike Conley had been previously ruled out.

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Speaker 3: The verve, the pizzazz out of tonight's matchup.

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Speaker 1: But look, other teams win without their main player a lot.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem when people, when we don't really know,

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Speaker 1: What I do know is that the Cowboys have a

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Speaker 1: for that kind of specificity. In detail, we'll find out

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Speaker 3: Thank you? Albert Einstein? Can you can you? I don't

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Speaker 1: Can you describe to us in Layman's terms the theory

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Speaker 4: I got nothing, But I can do the temperature conversion

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Speaker 1: What would Einstein say about pure progression? Do you think

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Speaker 1: guys lost yourselves in the eyes and mouth of of

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Speaker 1: you know what. I guess it was first West Phillips,

438
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: West Phillips, Then it was Koc, then it was I thing.

439
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Speaker 1: Did McCarthy get in on this toour Is he still

440
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: inexperienced to understand it, even thof he's supposed to implement it?

441
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 4: Well, Yes, I am writing about some of these things,

442
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 4: and it's a global story on developing a young quarterback,

443
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 4: but there's a really substantive section on peer progression and

444
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 4: my Sunday story. So I asked Wes Phillips on Tuesday

445
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 4: about kind of the process of getting a young quarterback

446
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 4: up to speed and learning how to coach him and

447
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 4: helping him decipher coverages that are more complex than they

448
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 4: used to be. And then I think Sebert jumped in

449
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 4: asked about the Kurt Warner stuff on peer progression and

450
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 4: actually ended up being a pretty interesting discussion. And then

451
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 4: O'Connell on Wednesday, when he came to talk to him,

452
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 4: if you could tell it was like he was just

453
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 4: waiting for somebody to get into it, because he brought

454
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 4: up a couple of things that made you think, Okay,

455
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 4: he's ready to go off on this if he gets

456
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 4: the chance. And I think when he did that, people

457
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 4: was like, all right, i'll play I'll ask you about it. So, yes,

458
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 4: he and I probably were both complicit in this becoming

459
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 4: a thing this week.

460
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Speaker 1: As you well know, it sounds as if Kurt Warner

461
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: is in the cabal that's on the other side of this.

462
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Speaker 1: We learned yesterday that Shawn Salisbury has some understanding of both,

463
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: but tends to long term lean in the favor of

464
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Speaker 1: the Kurt Warner of you, which is a belief that

465
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: pure progression ultimately is a bit too robotic.

466
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Speaker 4: Yes, And in fact, Tom Brady said this yesterday. He

467
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 4: actually happened to be on Colin Coward yesterday and kind

468
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 4: of unsolicited brought it up and said those exact words,

469
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Speaker 4: that it makes quarterbacks robotic because you end up saying,

470
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Speaker 4: I'm going to read through these progressions, and you know,

471
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Speaker 4: I asked Mats Grosmer about it, and he talked about

472
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Speaker 4: people will talk about it like a sprinkler where you're

473
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Speaker 4: just kind of going across the board. You start with one,

474
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 4: go two, to three, to four, and move on from there. So, yes,

475
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 4: you can get to that point. And the reason coaches

476
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 4: say on the other side this is worth doing is

477
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 4: college quarterbacks aren't being taught to read coverages anymore, and

478
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Speaker 4: they're often coming to the NFL kind of behind enough

479
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 4: in that aspect of things. You can't say, Okay, we

480
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 4: need you to go out here and tell me is

481
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 4: this cover two? Is this cover three that's going to

482
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 4: turn into cover two? All of these things, especially if

483
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 4: defenses get more complex. Quarterbacks don't come into the NFL

484
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Speaker 4: with the level of preparation and the level of understanding

485
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Speaker 4: to do this stuff on the fly, so you can't

486
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Speaker 4: put as much of it on the quarterback as perhaps

487
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Speaker 4: you used to do it. So I think the divide

488
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Speaker 4: on this has been quarterbacks that probably grew up in

489
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Speaker 4: a certain era, Tom Brady, Kurt Warner. I think Sean

490
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 4: obviously would be in this era two where you had

491
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Speaker 4: to do more of this. But the flip side is

492
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 4: that the coverages now there's so many more disguises and

493
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,479
Speaker 4: changing things on the fly to make quarterbacks stop. Because

494
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Speaker 4: one of the things Kevin O'Connell brought up is back

495
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Speaker 4: in the day, the reason he didn't throw over the

496
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 4: middle of the field was not because they changed the coverage.

497
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Speaker 4: The reason you didn't throw over the middle of the

498
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 4: field was Runnie a lot was standing there and he

499
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 4: might knock somebody in the next week. So he have

500
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 4: had to evolve, and quarterbacks probably don't have the level

501
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 4: of acumen to handle it right away. So some of

502
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 4: the pure progression stuff has been as a result of that.

503
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Speaker 4: But the secret sauce of this stuff seems to be

504
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 4: that you can still read coverages well enough to understand

505
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: what's going to come open. How can I manipulate a defender?

506
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 4: How can I create space voids and vacant seasons? The

507
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 4: vikings will talk about and use all of those things

508
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 4: together to make something happen.

509
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Speaker 1: So do are we convinced that the head coach is

510
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Speaker 1: fully prepared to largely adhere to the course he seemed

511
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 1: to take against the Washington Commanders when the Vikings travel

512
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: to Dallas to take on the Cowboys Sunday night.

513
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Speaker 4: In other words, is he going to run the ball?

514
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's in effect.

515
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think they're going to do that.

516
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 5: But I think the other piece of.

517
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 4: This is the Cowboys fronts is a little bit better

518
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 4: than what the Vikings saw from the Commanders. They have

519
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 4: reloaded that group with a lot of guys that Dante followed,

520
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 4: Jadavian Clowne. Obviously Kenny Clark comes in the trade. They

521
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 4: have a decent front that I think is going to

522
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 4: make it a little tougher to run the ball than

523
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 4: the Vikings did against the Commanders. But I think in

524
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 4: general it makes sense for them to do it because

525
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 4: it certainly was a supportive thing for McCarthy. It put

526
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Speaker 4: him in better down in distances, and I think this

527
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 4: is a game where when the Cowboys have as many

528
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 4: weapons as they do, is especially as it looks like

529
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 4: Ceedee Lamb is going to play. It helps to shorten

530
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 4: the game, It helps to keep that offense on the

531
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Speaker 4: sideline and play a little bit of the kind of

532
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 4: the old school way of doing things where this guy

533
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 4: can't hurt you if he's just sitting watching the game

534
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 4: on the bench. So if you can control clock and

535
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 4: make it a little more of a flood fast than

536
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 4: a shootout, I think that probably does play in their favor.

537
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: We'll see if they can do it, but I think

538
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 4: philosophically there's a good reason to try it.

539
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: It sounds as if, on the basis largely what you've

540
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: already laid out, the difference in defensive line play, even

541
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Speaker 1: for a defense that statistically is not that good Dallas

542
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: is not very high in a number of categories, but

543
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: that the line is enough to leave you with a

544
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: prediction that does not indicate the Vikings make it to

545
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: in a row, and not even necessarily that they make

546
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: it all of that interesting.

547
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is correct. I think the Cowboys do win this.

548
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 4: I picked the Cowboys to win the game, and I

549
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 4: think that defensive front, some of the mid season acquisitions

550
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 4: they've made have probably changed that a little bit from

551
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 4: what we saw with those numbers earlier.

552
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Speaker 3: In the year.

553
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 4: You can throw on this team. I think that you

554
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 4: can pick on those defensive backs if they give people time.

555
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 4: The Christian Darisaw component of this is going to be

556
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 4: a question again as we head towards game time, so

557
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 4: they will have to figure out if they're going to

558
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 4: have him and whether they can protect McCarthy well enough

559
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 4: to have any chance to pick on the coverage. And

560
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 4: then the Cowboys offense, I just think is going to

561
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 4: be a lot to deal with it. This turns into

562
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 4: a game where you're trying to trade scores and trade points.

563
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 4: I don't think that plays in the Vikings favor. The

564
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 4: Cowboys offensive line is leaky enough that they may be

565
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 4: able to get some things going. But Dak Prescott has

566
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 4: done a good job of getting rid of the ball

567
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 4: and has played at a high level, I think as

568
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 4: he has throughout his career. So I don't think this

569
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 4: matchup is terribly favorable for the Vikings. Maybe they'll surprise me,

570
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 4: but I think there's a lot of ways, especially with

571
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 4: that depth of that receiver group, that may make this

572
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 4: one pretty tough.

573
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Speaker 1: When we get to a place where the season is

574
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Speaker 1: in the rearview, mirror and perhaps you have more of

575
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Speaker 1: a chance to take a long view and maybe even

576
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: get access to more information about stuff that might sometimes

577
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: be hard to get during the season. Is there going

578
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: to be a back story with some surprising tentacles as

579
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: it pertains to the Christian Darisaw injury season, because I

580
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: feel like it's just played out a lot less consistently

581
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: and less purely than we thought it was going to.

582
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that's right. I think there are

583
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 4: some tentacles here. I mean, I have reason to think

584
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 4: that there are some tentacles, and I think we'll get

585
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 4: more of a sense of that as we go. But yeah,

586
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 4: I think that's been a big factor here where we

587
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 4: were now I think four hundred some days after the surgery,

588
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 4: I mean it would have been late October of twenty

589
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 4: twenty four, and the fact that we're still kind of

590
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 4: doing this with the practices a couple of days off

591
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 4: a week, or at least taking one day off a week,

592
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: and I think the odds of them having him Sunday night,

593
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 4: we'll see. But I mean this was the same trajectory

594
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 4: he went through a couple of weeks ago before the

595
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 4: Seattle game, where he was out Wednesday Thursday, then we're

596
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 4: limited on frit and ultimately did not play in that game.

597
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 4: So yeah, the fact that we're still doing this this

598
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 4: far beyond the surgery, and it was a major injury obviously,

599
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 4: and he had a lot of things to come back

600
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 4: from there. But you do see players, I think generally,

601
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 4: and everybody's gonna be a little bit different, but you

602
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 4: see players generally come back from this a little quicker

603
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 4: than they used to. And the fact that we are

604
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 4: still talking about it, you know, a year and two

605
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 4: months after it happened.

606
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: Is.

607
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 4: It's been a thing, and I think there's more to it.

608
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 4: A little bit of talking and conversations I've had around

609
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 4: it makes me think there's a little more to uncover there.

610
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 4: There's enough breadcrumbs there to make me interested in it,

611
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 4: Let's put it that way.

612
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: Ben Aslen covers the Vikings in the National Football League

613
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: for the Start Deview and joins US Weekly. Thanks to

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Speaker 1: standard heating and air conditioning, did you hear any rumors

615
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: that is the Vikings record sunk? This game might be

616
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Speaker 1: deflexed or is it almost Are we inoculated from that

617
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: if the game happens to be also involving the Dallas Cowboys.

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00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 5: Well, I think there was discussion of that.

619
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: I know there was at least some talk about the

620
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 4: possibility that would happen, given the fact that I think

621
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 4: the slate of games on Sunday is awfully good. So yeah,

622
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of high profile matchups that

623
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 4: they could have put in there. But you know, America's

624
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 4: team has a little something to play for, right. Their

625
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 4: playoff chances I don't think are terribly good either, but

626
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 4: they have better chances than the Vikings do and they

627
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 4: typically draw numbers. So I think NBC said we can

628
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 4: have the Cowboys on in primetime in a game that

629
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 4: matters at all people, whether they love them or whether

630
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 4: they hate them. And there's a lot of people that

631
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 4: fit in both of those camps. With that particular team,

632
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 4: I think NBC is able to keep them in prime time.

633
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 4: I was wondering Slash, maybe hoping it would get flexed out,

634
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 4: given deadlines and flights back and all of that kind

635
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 4: of stuff, But I think the draw of the Cowboys

636
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 4: was enough to keep it where it was originally scheduled

637
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 4: to be.

638
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: Does any part of the comments that Joe Burrow made

639
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: in your mind have legitimate relevance on how the quarterback

640
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: picture might play out in Minnesota. Or is it just

641
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: pure and utter fun and I guess you could say

642
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: ultimately harmless projecting and speculating related to the possibility of

643
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: that being among the options that the Vikings might pursue

644
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: this offseason.

645
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 4: Is it pure projection?

646
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 5: In other words, yes, we're asking.

647
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 4: The bunzword of the week system. My head, I think

648
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 4: there would be a lot to figure out there in

649
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 4: terms of what is he thinking. I mean, some of

650
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 4: the comments he made this week, it's like we were

651
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 4: talking about this a little bit today. Is he musing

652
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: about his career in the sense of he's thinking about retiring.

653
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 4: I mean, you'd have to. Anybody that's going to try

654
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 4: to acquire him would have to know that. And the

655
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Speaker 4: money would certainly be a factor. I think there's an

656
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 4: option bonus and there's some money that would stay in Cincinnati,

657
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 4: but they would probably have to do a restructure of

658
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 4: some type, and the Vikings are in a tough CAF

659
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 4: situation anyway. But if he were to say I want

660
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 4: to go there, I want to trade my one college

661
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 4: teammate for the other and go play with Justin Jefferson.

662
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't rule it out, only in the sense that

663
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Speaker 4: I think if they felt like they could get a

664
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Speaker 4: guy like that that has almost won a ring instead

665
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 4: of Kevin O'Connell and they face each other in the

666
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 4: Super Bowl and has played in a very similar system

667
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 4: to this, I wouldn't rule it out. I think logistically

668
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 4: it's tough, especially when you're paying Jefferson what you're paying him. Generally,

669
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 4: that gets hard to do when you have a receiver

670
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 4: making almost quarterback money. I mean, the Bengals are doing

671
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 4: it now, and you see where they have to kind

672
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 4: of skimp on some things in other places because of

673
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 4: the cast situation, and the Vikings would have to figure

674
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 4: out a lot there as well. But you know, if

675
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 4: they felt like, hey, this is definitely the answer and

676
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 4: we can make it happen, I don't think anybody's in

677
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 4: a position at this point to rule anything out. I

678
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 4: guess I think about it that way. It would seem

679
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 4: unlikely to happen. But I can't sit here on December

680
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: twelfth and say, yeah, no chance of that whatsoever.

681
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: Is Isaiah Rodgers on double secret probation right now?

682
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 4: I think the issues tackling have put him in a

683
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: little more of a tenuous situation. I mean, and he's

684
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 4: admitted to some of that where he's missed a lot,

685
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 4: and I think last week they had Jay Ward playing

686
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 4: there a little bit more often because of that. I

687
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 4: think they felt like, if you have a guy like

688
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 4: Deebo Samuel on the field that is tough to bring down,

689
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 4: you have to have your best tacklers on the field

690
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 4: or you're going to expose yourself. So I think that's

691
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 4: been a lot of it, and we'll see how the

692
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 4: goes on Sunday. They're going to need all hands on deck,

693
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 4: I think with that group. But you know, a guy

694
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 4: like Camanti Turpin, as fast and twitchy as he is,

695
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 4: you're going to have to be able to tackle. And

696
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 4: they have enough people that can hurt you, George Pick

697
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 4: and Ceedee Lamb, Jake Ferguson will see if he plays.

698
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 4: But they're going to have to tackle in the open field,

699
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 4: and if that's a problem, it's going to lead to

700
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 4: big plays. So yeah, I think for all of those reasons,

701
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 4: it's you've seen where Isaiah Rodgers went from having one

702
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 4: of the best starts in the league of any corner

703
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 4: to only playing a certain situation, and the tackling is

704
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 4: certainly the big reason why that is.

705
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: Evaluation is obviously each week a big part of what

706
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: these coaches do moving forward, regardless of the condition of

707
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 1: the team. But we all assume that if the team

708
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: is all but mathematically eliminated from the postseason, then all

709
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: that's left is individual evaluations that help go into significant

710
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: decisions that need to be made in the offseason. Who stays,

711
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: who goes, salary cap ish shoes, salary cuts, etc. So

712
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: we know about the McCarthy part. Okay, we're trying to

713
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: see if we can get some traction with him over

714
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: a period of games and see it go continue to

715
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: go in a more positive direction. But if you leave

716
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: the quarterback saga out of the equation, where else do

717
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: you think the Vikings are looking and should be looking

718
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 1: the rest of this regular season?

719
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I think there's a couple things on the

720
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 4: defensive line they're going to have a big decision to make.

721
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 4: But Javon Hargrave a little bit. With Jonathan Allen, the

722
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 4: money doesn't make it quite as palatable to move on

723
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 4: from him. But Javon Hargrave is certainly going to have

724
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 4: to make a decision, So I think deciding is there

725
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 4: enough there to bring him back or do you think

726
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 4: about a restructure. I mean, I think that's going to

727
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 4: be part of it. The corners, that's going to be

728
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 4: a big question going forward. Not that there's necessarily an

729
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 4: answer on the roster right now where the evaluation would

730
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 4: tell you your set at the spot. But I look

731
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 4: at the defensive front. I think Turner you've seen flashes lately,

732
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 4: but they certainly need to see more from him, and

733
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 4: that again probably doesn't change the picture a ton, but

734
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 4: they have a lot of defenders that are twenty nine

735
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 4: thirty years old making a lot of money. So if

736
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 4: you got to the point where Dallas Turner became an

737
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 4: every down player and an every down impact, I think

738
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 4: that would make the bill a little more comfortable about

739
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 4: the future there. And then I look a little bit

740
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 4: too on the offensive line. I mean, I think Donovan

741
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 4: Jackson has played well and I think they will have

742
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 4: a good piece there. But I want to see how

743
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 4: this shakes out with darrisaw. I think figuring out how

744
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 4: durable and how reliable is he long term is a question.

745
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 4: I mean, he's signed, but I think that's something they're

746
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 4: going to have to look pretty seriously at Ryan Kelly

747
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 4: as a contract you could move on from if you

748
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 4: didn't want to bring him back. I think that'll be

749
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 4: more a question of what do you want to spend

750
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 4: in that position rather than how he's played, because I

751
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 4: think he's made a difference when he's been back in it.

752
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 4: But over I think the investments they made in that position,

753
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 4: they want to see a little more return on those

754
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 4: investments than they've gotten, and that may not lead to

755
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 4: changes necessarily, but it leads you to say, Okay, the

756
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 4: decisions we've made on the offensive line.

757
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 5: Where will be wrong if we were wrong?

758
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 4: And what do we need to do differently in terms

759
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 4: of people we have in certain spots to make those

760
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 4: decisions in the future. So I think a lot of

761
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 4: those things on both lines of scrimmage really is worth

762
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 4: watching throughout the rest of this year. That was where

763
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 4: they invested their money. They thought we will spend and

764
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 4: we'll fix those problems, and it hasn't necessarily done that.

765
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Speaker 4: So I think there's still a lot to be learned

766
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 4: and a lot to be figured out in those spots.

767
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Speaker 1: Will you or have you ever on a trip to

768
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Speaker 1: Dallas to cover the Vikings or do anything else. Attended

769
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Speaker 1: the Kennedy Museum on the site of the November twenty two,

770
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three assassination of the President of the United States.

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Speaker 4: Yes, actually I did this.

772
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 5: I want to say maybe when my five minutes on.

773
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: The Wild Beat. I think I went down to cover

774
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 4: a Wild Stars game and I went up to the

775
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 4: book depository to see it. Yeah, it definitely was on

776
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 4: the I think on the Wild because I remember talking

777
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 4: to some people that did it that day. So yeah,

778
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 4: fascinating exhibit. And you just you're struck by how close

779
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 4: that window is loaded. I mean, it's just like, Wow,

780
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 4: that is not the toughest shot in the world to make.

781
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 4: And you know, I think you've had folks talk about

782
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 4: this over the years on the show. Probably the guys

783
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 4: that you have on pretty regularly have said that this

784
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 4: is not a shot that would have required a sniper

785
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 4: to hit it. But yeah, it is striking how relatively

786
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: close you are to where the president would go by.

787
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 4: And to think of the idea that a president in

788
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 4: the twentieth century even would have had a top down

789
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 4: on the convertible you think about security now, it's incredible

790
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 4: to think that would have happened, but obviously that's what

791
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 4: changed everything.

792
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 5: So by the way, I've been there once, then I'll.

793
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Speaker 3: Get there this weekend.

794
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: It was a wonderful it's worth doing once, and you

795
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: hit on the key item, and it's I think it's

796
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: the biggest misunderstanding about if you haven't been there, how

797
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: close it looks.

798
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: And in fact, not.

799
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: Only you know no roof on the car, but in

800
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: the both the Dallas newspapers the route, the exact precise

801
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: motorcade route start to finish, published and print it as well,

802
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: which probably might have helped a little bit or hurt

803
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: depending on how you want want to look at it.

804
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: I think I've told you this before for about I

805
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: was in Dallas for five years.

806
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: My cubicle spot.

807
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: I was at a window and a corner, and it

808
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: literally if I looked my right, I literally saw the

809
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: Texas Book depositor.

810
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: That was my spot literally every day.

811
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: Now, yeh, at some point, actually, when it's your it's

812
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: where you work in that spot, you almost get you

813
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: to the point where you're not constantly thinking about it.

814
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: But it's very strange looking back on it. That was

815
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: my view out out the window of my cubicle.

816
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 4: That's incredible. I mean, yeah, you think about like, that's

817
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 4: one of the I mean for your people of your age.

818
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 4: I think my parents, that's the where were you when

819
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 4: you found out? Moment? I mean that question, but it's

820
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 4: one of the most impactful moments in American history. And

821
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 4: to be able to look out the window and be like, oh,

822
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 4: that's exactly what happened. Yeah, that would be a hard

823
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 4: thing to ever not find a little bit surreal. I mean,

824
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 4: I'm sure every day it's like, okay, you see it,

825
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 4: but that is one of those things that for that

826
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 4: to become normal would be kind of surreal in its

827
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 4: own sense.

828
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: I guess safe travels to Dallas and we will let

829
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: chat next week.

830
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 4: Thank you, all right, sounds good, Thanks Dan.

831
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Speaker 1: That is the one and the only Ben Gesling, brought

832
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: to you by Standard Heating and Air Conditioning. We still

833
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: have one guest left. It's another Friday regular that will

834
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: be level about one half hour from now. Top five

835
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 1: at five is going to be coming up in a minute,

836
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: I think, GUARSI will have a lot on your Minnesota Wild,

837
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: will have an injury update involving your Minnesota Timberwolves, and

838
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: who know who who knows what else is on the

839
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: on the platter uh that will be served up by

840
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: the man in charge of the top five at five.

841
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: All that is coming up next