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Speaker 4: John Sheeran will join us at one o'clock, covering the

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Speaker 4: Bengals from a Diaz Sports Kegan Nicholson at two o'clock

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Speaker 4: now and every Thursday ahead of the college basketball season,

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Speaker 4: he covers the Bearcats for Bearcat Journal dot Com, speaking

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Speaker 4: to the Bearcats their trainer from UC and Novacare, Bob

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Speaker 4: Manjean will join us this afternoon as well. Those are

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Speaker 4: your three guests, your talkbacks, and your phone calls five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 4: fifteen thirty Austin and I will do a buy or

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Speaker 4: sell version of the Bye Weeks. We'll do that today.

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Speaker 4: Play some buy or sell. We'll talk a little. Xavier

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Speaker 4: Xavier in action tonight against Lemoyne Lemoyne. I don't know

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Speaker 4: much about Lemoyne. I don't know where Lemoinne is, but uh,

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Speaker 4: Xavier plays them at the centas center and Xavier is

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Speaker 4: a twenty two and a half point favorite in that game.

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Speaker 4: Did you see what Richard Patino did after their first

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Speaker 4: game against Maris the other night, Austin.

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Speaker 3: He posted his personal grades so on his social media.

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Speaker 4: So he went the day after and he posted thoughts

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Speaker 4: on last night student section A plus defense, C plus

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Speaker 4: fick in the first half, took our foot off the

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Speaker 4: gas in the second, turned them over offence D minus

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Speaker 4: screening was poor, shot selection below average, great job of

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Speaker 4: two on the glass not good enough. Gotta fight what

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Speaker 4: I want to know? Will he continue these grading scales

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Speaker 3: It's a good question. I feel like he would. He

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Speaker 4: He also interacts on social as well. To that tweet,

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Speaker 4: the Jerome Hunter fan club responded and said, coach, my

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Speaker 4: beer drinking was a C minus. I know I need

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Speaker 4: to do better. I know I can. I'll show you

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Speaker 4: on Thursday. He said, please do better Macuras Mafia. I

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Speaker 4: give myself a B plus. Was loud and proud in

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Speaker 4: the upper deck long season, and I can greatly improve,

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Speaker 4: which is why inn a wasn't warranted. Patino says, I

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Speaker 3: I like this.

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Speaker 4: I just want to see if that continues, maybe after

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Speaker 3: But they're saying they're going to lose the leat Moyne.

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Speaker 4: No, they won't lose the lat Mooyne, but at some

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Speaker 4: point they'll lose a game. What does the tweet look

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Speaker 3: But I'm I'm not convinced that they will, that they'll

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Speaker 3: a game, who's to say they don't go undefeated. You know,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to start the show this way, but

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Speaker 3: you often make fun of Ohio State football for their schedule. No,

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Speaker 3: you do it quite frequently.

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Speaker 3: And I was having a conversation with Arn prior to

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Speaker 3: men's basketball schedule. Okay, and you play Georgia State, Dayton,

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Speaker 3: It's just not on the road. It's a neutral site.

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Speaker 3: It's in Atlanta. I'm playing at Heritage Bank Clemson on

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Speaker 3: You don't play a true road game until twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 4: but yes, a savior in Cincinnati. Logan Wilson said goodbye

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Speaker 4: Now it's a lot about six different paragraphs. He also

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Speaker 4: Austin went into great detail to thank in person a

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Speaker 3: Hey, I think it's a little weird. Yeah. He mentions

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Speaker 4: Yep, doesn't mention mentioned the Browns family, Zach Taylor, every

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Speaker 3: I think that's a little bit strange.

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Speaker 4: It is when you go out of your way to

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Speaker 4: A very sad situation happening around Dallas. Cowboy defensive end

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Speaker 3: They later found Neland's body. So very sad for a

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Speaker 4: Last night, Austin, something happened in the sports world that

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Speaker 4: Jordan Bennington.

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Speaker 3: You know this name. I don't know anything about this guy.

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Speaker 4: He's the goaltender last night for Saint Louis. OV scores

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Speaker 3: I did hear about this.

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Speaker 4: Bennington grabs the puck and just casually tries to tuck

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Speaker 3: Well, I have been given some new information that apparently

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Speaker 4: So, we were just giving information on theirs. The great

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Speaker 3: pitch for two years for Lamoine in Syracuse. Legend.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of Red's legends, how about this? Announced earlier today

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Speaker 4: Those for the Red. Yes, Those players include Homer Bailey,

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Speaker 4: Mike Leak, t Shirts, Brandon Phillips, that Dude, BP, Scott Rowland,

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Speaker 4: and Edinson Volcaz Nice. Those are the names of eight

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Speaker 3: I once won a giveaway from Mike Leak on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: Oh and won an autographed baseball. Wow, I still have

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Speaker 4: Two of these players will be selected, So two of

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Speaker 2: This is what Fie Sell pulled on since E three sixty.

437
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: I like that. It is time to play buy or Sell.

438
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 3: I didn't even add hold. Pay attention. Well you got

439
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 3: buy or sell. You don't get the hold? I get

440
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 3: the hold. That the name of the game.

441
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 4: No, No, this is buy or sell. Uh, this is

442
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 4: buy or sell or hold. Ain't holding. That's a cop out.

443
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 4: I think I think holding is a cop out.

444
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 3: I'll play it again. Let me just see if I

445
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 3: heard it correctly.

446
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: It's time to play fine sell right.

447
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Speaker 4: Now, three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty at Sports Station. All right,

448
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna shoot down these ready, all right, buy or

449
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 4: sell or hold? You see playing in the Big twelve

450
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 4: title game football football? I'm selling that.

451
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Speaker 3: Okay? Who they losing to?

452
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Speaker 11: B Yu?

453
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Speaker 3: Okay? Name of the game now, for what it's worth,

454
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 3: BYU is a ten and a half point dog against

455
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Speaker 3: Texas Tech. This weekend. I find that to be a

456
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Speaker 3: lot of points. I think that says a lot more

457
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Speaker 3: about Texas Tech. I think Texas Tech is a train.

458
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 3: But you're going to sell that, Okay, I am. I'm

459
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 3: excited about what I've seen from the Bearcats. I need

460
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Speaker 3: to see it against better competition, Okay, because they got

461
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Speaker 3: boat raced and urinated down their leg against Utah. I'm

462
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Speaker 3: buying the Bearcats to make I didn't say win the

463
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Speaker 3: Big Twelve title. I said they play in the Big

464
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Speaker 3: Twelve title game in Dallas. I think they beat Arizona.

465
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Speaker 3: I think the BYU game is going to be a

466
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Speaker 3: fantastic atmosphere.

467
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Speaker 4: It's going to be a dog fight. I think they

468
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Speaker 4: get out of that and then they go to TCU

469
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 4: and they take care of business. Buy or sell early

470
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 4: in the season, but we're forecasting here, and this is

471
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 4: the bare minimum for Wes Miller. Buy or sell, you

472
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Speaker 4: see will make the NCAA tournament. I'm gonna sell, Wow,

473
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 4: the same literally the same argument.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I believe it until I see it. Yeah, you

475
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 3: already have struggling big men, right or that position is

476
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 3: thin and a question mark and now an injury to

477
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Speaker 3: sincere Harris. Maybe Seanabive can be that guy that goes

478
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 3: and creates so much more offensively than anybody expected, and

479
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 3: the team is desperately needed. But the big man worries me.

480
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 3: The injuries worry me, and the lack of results in

481
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 3: the past worry me.

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Speaker 4: Well, for everything you outlined in the schedule, I think

483
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Speaker 4: they should get through the non conference schedule pretty good.

484
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 4: I think they should take care of business. I think

485
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Speaker 4: this team you want to talk about a shot in

486
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Speaker 4: the arm, Louisville coming to Heritage Bank Arena, Louisville's the

487
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Speaker 4: eleventh ranked team in the country. A way to win

488
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 4: that in this conversation, conversation changes completely. I like the

489
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Speaker 4: roster they added a GM. I think this roster fits

490
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Speaker 4: better together. I think they're going to be a team

491
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Speaker 4: that can score in bunches. Last year that the ball

492
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Speaker 4: just got stagnant way too many times. I will buy

493
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Speaker 4: the Bearcats to make the NCAA Tournament. The Xavier Musketeers Austin.

494
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Speaker 4: We put out the bat signal a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 4: and we wanted Xavier fans to tell us, what's your

496
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Speaker 4: makeup of this season? Where do you put your expectations

497
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 4: and for many it was five hundred b five hundred

498
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Speaker 4: and the Big East and that's a success. So I

499
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Speaker 4: ask you buy or sell. Xavier will finish the Big

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Speaker 4: East at five hundred. I'm going to sell that as well. Okay,

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00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 4: well you're not buying. You got a lot of money left.

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Speaker 4: You're not buying. You're like the Reds right now?

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Speaker 3: What you mean? But you're selling everything? Yeah? Yeah, that

504
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Speaker 3: means I can buy big later on. You said I

505
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Speaker 3: got ten of these then, so you're waiting to get

506
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Speaker 3: this number three? Yeah, I mean, I mean expectations are very low.

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Speaker 3: I didn't like what I saw in the second half

508
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Speaker 3: against Marist.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know anything about Richard Patino. I don't know

511
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Speaker 3: much about these players. I don't know what this is

512
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: going to look like. It would be foolish for me

513
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Speaker 3: to buy.

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Speaker 4: I think that's the biggest thing right now is you

515
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 4: just don't know about it. Yeah, you don't know about

516
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 4: the players. You've had one opportunity to look, and let's

517
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Speaker 4: call it what it is. They failed in that first opportunity.

518
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 4: They had to go to the ropes against Marit to

519
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 4: get a win. Now, will this team improve? He should

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00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 4: go Absolutely, they don't have a ton of opportunities for

521
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 4: a major non conference when they go to Iowa. Now

522
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 4: me saying this, they'll beat Cincinnati this year at home.

523
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 4: I'm selling as well as Avier in the Big East.

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00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 4: Not as much on the Musketeers, but just I think

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00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 4: on the Big East schedule alone, I think Yukon is

526
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Speaker 4: going to be very good. I think Villanova is much improved.

527
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 4: Saint John's is going to be a monster. You still

528
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 4: got seat in. Creighton is a ranked team, Marquette is

529
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 4: always tough. I think they're slightly under five hundred in

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Speaker 4: the Big East. But I think there are good things

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Speaker 4: coming because I think Richard Patino is a good coach

532
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 4: and they will find their way all right, buy or

533
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 4: sell often. Joe Flacco will be a Bengal in twenty

534
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Speaker 4: twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a good one. I was reading something yesterday

536
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 3: that the Steelers could target Joe Flacco if Aaron Rodgers

537
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 3: decides to retire. Good point. Joe Flacco has made it

538
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: quite obvious that he wants to play, and the reason

539
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: he's playing still is because he wants to play and

540
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: thinks he can help a team. And clearly he can yes.

541
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Speaker 3: I don't know if the Bengals will maybe match the

542
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: price that Joe Flacco might get okay in free agency,

543
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: but just the idea of Flaccomania and the idea of

544
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow being perhaps to some fragile Yeah, I'm gonna

545
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: say yes, they do invest in their backup quarterback. We've

546
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Speaker 3: seen them do it in the past with Jake Browning.

547
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say they do. Joe Flacco is here next year.

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Speaker 4: I'm buying this wholeheartedly, not only because of what he

549
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 4: can do on the field, but I think he can

550
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 4: be even more in factful to Joe Burrow. We've talked

551
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 4: for a while now about what Joe Burrow don't like

552
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 4: going under center. There are things Joe Burrow doesn't want

553
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 4: to do. Guess who could maybe get through to him

554
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 4: a little more, A guy that's played for a long

555
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 4: time in the NFL. I think Joe Flacca would be

556
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 4: the perfect backup quarterback to Joe Burrow. I think he's

557
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 4: a welcome site, a breath of fresh air, and obviously

558
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 4: if you have to turn to him, you feel like

559
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 4: he's going to be able to weather the ship and

560
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 4: weather the storm. I am buying Joe Flacco is a

561
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 4: Bengal in twenty twenty six. This one has two parts.

562
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 4: This is one B to the question Zach Taylor a

563
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 4: Bengal in twenty twenty six.

564
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say yes, I'm gonna buy that. Okay, I'm

565
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 3: buying it as well, just because I don't think they

566
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: move on from Zach. I think Joe bean out this

567
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: season is enough of a reason that they'll say at

568
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 3: the end of the year, we're going to bring it

569
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: back and run this back again. I don't think the

570
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: moves that you make, and that they have made our

571
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: moves that are indicative of a desperate head coach or

572
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: a head coach that feels like he's on the hot seat.

573
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: I also believe that the offensive coaching that they have

574
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Speaker 3: done this year is some of the best I've seen

575
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 3: in some of the best in the National Football League.

576
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Speaker 3: I think the Brown family thinks highly of Zach as

577
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Speaker 3: an offensive mind. That's why he was hired to begin with,

578
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: especially with not elite qualifications, and I do think that

579
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Speaker 3: he deserves credit for the way this offense has performed.

580
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Speaker 3: They could be getting beaten forty two to nothing every game,

581
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: but they're not they're getting beaten forty seven to forty two,

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Speaker 3: and there's at least something to that. I'm not saying

583
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: that's the right move. I don't know that I necessarily

584
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 3: agree with it, but I do that Zach is here.

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00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 4: That's where I'm at. If this is my choice, he's

586
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 4: not here the Bengals choice. I think he is here

587
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 4: for all the reasons you just mentioned. But I do

588
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 4: think this gets interesting in Austin if things continue to

589
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 4: get worse after the bye week. Yeah, that's where I

590
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 4: think this can change, all right. I think this was

591
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 4: decided when it first happened, but I've been asked it,

592
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 4: so I threw it on here. You buy or sell

593
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow taking another snap this year? Now, this would

594
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 4: be a good one to hold.

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00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: Uh huh. For what it's worth, I'm selling. I don't

596
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 3: think this team puts himself in a position that they're

597
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 3: playing meaningful football when Joe Burrow would be healthy. I

598
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 3: think for that reason, you say, just get even healthier

599
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: and we'll see you next year. Yeah. I want to

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Speaker 3: sell it, but I have a feeling he's gonna push

601
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: hard to play. Wow, Okay, yeah, I don't If he

602
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: does going to take a risk here. I'm gonna buy this.

603
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 4: But if he does that, should someone within the organization say,

604
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: we appreciate that, but you're not playing this year?

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Speaker 3: Yes. Joe Burrow also rode on a golf cart with

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Speaker 3: Mike Brown, and Mike Brown told him he wasn't playing

607
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Speaker 3: on Monday Night football, and Joe Burrow said, yes, I am,

608
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 3: and played with a bad calf against the Rams and

609
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: won that game. Different circumstances, same two guys. I think

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00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 3: Joe will push hard to play. Okay, I'm gonna say yes.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I entirely believe that, but I'm

612
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Speaker 3: gonna buy it.

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Speaker 4: How about this, Jamar Chase will finish in the top

614
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 4: five among NFL receivers in receptions, yards, and touchdowns. Now,

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00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 4: I'll throw it out here right now, he is tops

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Speaker 4: in the NFL by a wide margin. In receptions, he

617
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: already has seventy six receptions. The next closest is Christian

618
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Speaker 4: McCaffrey at sixty one and Pukinakua, so he is fifteen

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Speaker 4: clear of anyone else on that. Yardage Wise, he is

620
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Speaker 4: second in the NFL, well behind Jackson Smith and Jigba.

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Speaker 4: And touchdowns, He's currently in a tie for tenth at five,

622
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Speaker 4: but the leader, Davante Adams, has eight buy or sell.

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Speaker 4: When all is said and done, Jamar Chase will finish

624
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 4: in the top five in each category.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna sell it because the Bengals have to go

626
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 3: on the road more frequently than they have been as

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Speaker 3: of late.

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Speaker 1: And is Football in the NATI brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Postman Law on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Now Austin Welcome back. Welcome back everyone, not just Austin.

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Speaker 4: It's since he three to sixty thanks to Skyline Chili,

633
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Speaker 4: but yes, you Austin as well.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back.

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Speaker 4: Normally on Thursdays, we read and react a little bit

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00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 4: to the next opponent for the Cincinnati Bengals. I thought

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00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 4: with Football in the NATTI with a bye week, we

638
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 4: could talk about maybe some of the things that happen

639
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 4: in that Bears game in a little bit more depth.

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Speaker 4: You want to know how bad the defense has been

641
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: when it comes to missing tackles. We mentioned the Bengal

642
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 4: players that make up the mistackle list in the NFL.

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00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 4: They are all over the top ten. To put it

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00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 4: into perspective, last Sunday, the Bengals missed fifteen tackles that

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00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 4: allowed Austin for one hundred and thirty three extra yards.

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Speaker 4: After said miss tackles, including the game winner to Colston Loveland,

647
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Speaker 4: they entered Sunday allowing ninety four miss tackles and six

648
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Speaker 4: hundred and forty five yards, both most in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Those numbers only increase. So we talk about tackling, and

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Speaker 4: you and I both mentioned tackling as a thing to

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Speaker 4: improve on in the second half. Does it still process

652
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Speaker 4: just how bad they've been tackling When you hear numbers.

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Speaker 3: Like that, Uh, it's exactly what I expect.

654
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Speaker 4: Incredible, Yeah, it's incredible. T Higgins huge game on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Him.

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Speaker 4: T Higgins has been pressed on forty three point six

657
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Speaker 4: percent of his routes this season, the highest rate among

658
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Speaker 4: wide receivers in the National Football League. Why do we

659
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Speaker 4: feel like teams are deciding to press t Higgins more?

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Speaker 3: I think maybe the lack of production in recent weeks

661
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Speaker 3: and all the attention going to Jamar Chase that people

662
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Speaker 3: just kind of forgot who T Higgins was, and he

663
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Speaker 3: reminded them against the Bears. Yeah, I mean, he caught

664
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Speaker 3: that ball, he said on the micd up he couldn't

665
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Speaker 3: even see it.

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Speaker 4: I think one of the reasons is that opposing defenses

667
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 4: would rather risk bringing pressure or getting home with the

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Speaker 4: front four before t Higgins can get open.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I think playing off would just playing into the Bengals hands.

671
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Speaker 4: I think teams are saying, we're going to press Higgins

672
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Speaker 4: and maybe make him for a half second more take

673
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Speaker 4: time to get into his route, which allows us to

674
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Speaker 4: get home quicker. I think teams just think they can

675
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Speaker 4: get to the quarterback quicker than they can get the

676
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Speaker 4: ball to Higgins.

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Speaker 3: I think that's why they press him so much.

678
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Speaker 4: Chase Brown averaged the third fewest yards before contact per

679
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Speaker 4: carry among running backs in the NFL this season. That

680
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 4: changed though Austin going back to the Jets week two

681
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Speaker 4: point four yards before contact. So it does signify the

682
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 4: numbers we're seeing match what the Bengals are doing from

683
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Speaker 4: a production point of view. They are running the ball

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Speaker 4: more effectively and Chase Brown is getting much more room

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Speaker 4: to operate. I don't want to put it all to

686
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Speaker 4: the fact that they run more under center, but I

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Speaker 4: think under center has a big, big part to say

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Speaker 4: in this. That's why I think Joe Flacco is necessary

689
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Speaker 4: going forward. That's why I think Joe Flacco can help

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow more than just on the field.

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Speaker 3: But is Joe Flacco gonna outrank Zach Taylor and Jake

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Speaker 3: and Joe Burrow in the room.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you would have to outrank Zach because

694
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Speaker 4: I think Zach wants to do more under center.

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Speaker 3: But is I just don't know that when Joe is

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Speaker 3: fully healthy, if Flacco is gonna have veto power over

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Speaker 3: parts of the game plan, like he might make his

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Speaker 3: opinion known, and I guess maybe that holds some weight. No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that it's going to have a huge impact.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't see it having an impact going into the

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Speaker 4: game plan. But what I do think could help is,

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Speaker 4: again this is us assuming, but I'm assuming that Zach

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Speaker 4: would like to run as much under center with Joe

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Speaker 4: Burrow as he does with Joe Flacco. I would also

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Speaker 4: assume that Joe just Burrow just doesn't want to do that.

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Speaker 4: That's where I think Flacco can help. I think Flacco

708
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Speaker 4: can open maybe the eyes a little bit more of

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow and maybe help with techniques or maybe help

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Speaker 4: with something with vision or defensive recognition to where Burrow

711
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Speaker 4: would feel a little bit more comfortable to turn his

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Speaker 4: back for a split second. I don't think Flaco would

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Speaker 4: have a say in a game plan as a backup quarterback,

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Speaker 4: but I do think film study, I think the inability

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Speaker 4: to go under center, I think maybe Flacco can have

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Speaker 4: a little bit of a say in that.

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Speaker 3: At least I think so, but we'll see.

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Speaker 4: But again, if you're asking me, is it better for

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow to have Jake Browning or Joe Flacco as

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Speaker 4: a backup, I think just the experience of Flacco would

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Speaker 4: go a long way for Joe. Sure, And again, people

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Speaker 4: throw injury prone around now for Joe Burrow, and I

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Speaker 4: don't think it's unfair for people to say that because

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Speaker 4: of what's happened to Joe in his career, and you

725
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Speaker 4: could call it fluky, and I certainly think that a

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Speaker 4: lot of it has been. But if you do have

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Speaker 4: to enter a three or four game window and Joe

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Speaker 4: Flacco is your backup, based on what we've seen and

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Speaker 4: knowing that Jamar, Chase and t Higgins are going to

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Speaker 4: be here and Chase Brown's going to be here, then

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Speaker 4: I think you would feel pretty good about staying afloat

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Speaker 4: during those four games. And I think ultimately, as a

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Speaker 4: backup quarterback, that's all you're asking him to do. But

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Speaker 4: I think it's his work off the field in the

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Speaker 4: film room around Joe Burrow that I think would help

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow, who I already view as a top two

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Speaker 4: or three quarterback in the league, ascend to the top

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Speaker 4: quarterback in the league by just a little bit of

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Speaker 4: a push and maybe a little bit of help from

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Speaker 4: Joe Flacco. We'll see, we'll see, I mean if And

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Speaker 4: maybe that's why it's important Austin for Burrow in his

742
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Speaker 4: mind to play again this year. Maybe it's important to

743
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Speaker 4: say I do want to come back. I want to

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Speaker 4: have Flacco on the sideline. I want to see how

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Speaker 4: that feels for a couple of games. And maybe there

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Speaker 4: is more insight from an organization of man, it is

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Speaker 4: important that this guy comes back, because look at the

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Speaker 4: impact he had in that last game or two where

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow was able to play. Assuming but that's kind

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Speaker 4: of what you do on a bye week. What do

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Speaker 4: we have coming up?

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Speaker 3: An hour? Number two? John Shearon, he talks some Bengals

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Speaker 3: with us, and John posted a very funny video during

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Speaker 3: the aim of him laughing at the Colston Loveland touchdown,

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Speaker 3: which I think a lot of people were having a

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Speaker 3: similar reaction. We'll also talk to Kegan nickoson at two

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Speaker 3: o'clock after that, So so Bob Man.

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Speaker 3: What's up, John?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah? How much are you looking forward to a

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Speaker 3: bye weekend? John?

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Speaker 7: Oh, it's lovely. It's I have a free Sunday. The

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Speaker 7: sun is out. I have so many plans of maybe

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Speaker 7: doing nothing. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be the

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Speaker 7: best Sunday the last two months.

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Speaker 3: Are you gonna watch any NFL football? So you remember

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Speaker 3: what it's supposed to look like?

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Speaker 7: You know, I haven't decided that yet, but if I do,

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna be trans six for sure.

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Speaker 3: Important. Is it just to have a bye weekend for

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Speaker 3: your mental health? At this point?

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Speaker 7: I mean it can't. There's nothing that comes close to

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Speaker 7: it at this point. I wish there was two more,

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Speaker 7: which is what I hope that the NFL is pushing for.

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Speaker 7: Once they push the schedule all the way to March

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Speaker 7: or something like that. But I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 3: This team.

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Speaker 4: It's obviously on the defensive side of the ball a

803
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 4: comedy of airs. You have four players who make up

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Speaker 4: the top ten in the NFL and missed tackles in

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Speaker 4: that category, including the top two. I don't even know

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Speaker 4: where to start on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 4: If you were tasked over the bye week and trying

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Speaker 4: to find ways to improve this defense, where would you

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Speaker 4: look to start the door?

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Speaker 13: I don't know. It's just like.

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Speaker 7: These guys when they play it, I've never seen it

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Speaker 7: to the point where like they look like they're overmatched,

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Speaker 7: Like they kind of look like they just don't have

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Speaker 7: the juice. And that's surprising because this defense was built

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Speaker 7: on some one of a principle of athleticism. And it's

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Speaker 7: like guys get to the spot, but once they're there,

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00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 7: they realize that, oh, they have to take on a

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Speaker 7: block or have to scrape over the top of this

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Speaker 7: gap in order to reach the gap right, And it's

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Speaker 7: like they do maybe one good thing a play, but

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Speaker 7: they need to do three good things in each play,

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Speaker 7: and that's why they get bowled over in.

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Speaker 13: Their run fits.

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Speaker 7: And that's why they're chasing down guys for thirty yard games,

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Speaker 7: and it's why they're always late despite being quick, and it's like,

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Speaker 7: I don't know if they just don't know what they're

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Speaker 7: seeing in preparation from Monday to Saturday, or when they

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Speaker 7: go out onto the field, they're just physically outmatched. That's

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Speaker 7: just what it looked like on Sunday against the Bears

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Speaker 7: offensive lines that I had.

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Speaker 13: I had concerns about going.

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Speaker 7: Into this game because they rebuilt that entire interior group

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Speaker 7: and they can get out after it at the second

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Speaker 7: level and they can spread you out, and Ben Johnson

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Speaker 7: does a great job of scheming all that up. But

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Speaker 7: it looks so much worse than I could have possibly managed,

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Speaker 7: because this team looks like they're just they just don't

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Speaker 7: have any confidence with them in their athleticism and that's

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Speaker 7: why they just it just looks so as bad as

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Speaker 7: it is, and it's just really hard to get over that.

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Speaker 4: I look at how bad it is and I wonder

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Speaker 4: how will it get better. I don't see it right

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Speaker 4: now in Demetrius Knight and Barrett Carter. I don't see

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Speaker 4: it with Shamar Stewart. There are questions about pretty much

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Speaker 4: all three of those guys when they were drafted by

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Speaker 4: the Bengals. You're now at the bye week, you get

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Speaker 4: the second half of the schedule. But when you look

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Speaker 4: at this defense from top to bottom, Miles Murphy is

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00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 4: not panning out. The secondary outside of probably DJ Turner

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Speaker 4: is not panning out. We'll talk about Trey Hendrickson in

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Speaker 4: just a moment. How many players currently make up this defense? John,

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Speaker 4: where you would go into next year saying, Man, that

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00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 4: guy has to be a part of the mix.

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Speaker 7: No one that has to be here necessarily, because no

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00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 7: one is playing up above where they were last year.

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Speaker 7: It feels like everyone has gotten a little bit worse

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00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 7: or they're basically staying the same. And that could be

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Speaker 7: a testament to what they saw that of these guys

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Speaker 7: last year when they weren't playing. And that's another conversation, right,

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Speaker 7: But it's like, in order for this defense to get

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Speaker 7: to where it was supposed to be, a lot of

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Speaker 7: these guys had to make a jump, not even like

863
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 7: a big jump, just a gradual progression. We're not even

864
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 7: really seeing that from Dax Sills, who I think has

865
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 7: basically been this same player that he was last year.

866
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 7: And you would like to see a little bit more

867
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 7: improvement out of him, but it really is hard to

868
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 7: go into anything with the cornerbacks right now. With the

869
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 7: way that the rest of the defense is playing, it

870
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 7: seems like the cornerbacks are like the lone bright spot

871
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 7: of this group because again Miles Murphy continues to have

872
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 7: a great get off, but can't disengage. He can't win

873
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 7: a rip move to save his life. You're not seeing

874
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 7: anything in terms of pass rushing juice again outside of

875
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 7: BJ Hill from your defensive tackles, and the linebacking play

876
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,479
Speaker 7: is just it's amongst the worst that I've ever seen.

877
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 7: It's definitely the worst in the NFL right now, but

878
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 7: it's amongst the worst that I've ever seen. And this

879
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 7: team has gone through some terrible linebacking play over the

880
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,959
Speaker 7: last two decades. So there is no real significant piece

881
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 7: of this defense right now outside of Tree Henderson that

882
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 7: you would want next year going forward, and maybe you

883
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 7: know DJ Turner obviously is now in that group as well,

884
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 7: but you would like to see him finish the year

885
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 7: strongly because it has been a problem with him for

886
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 7: his career as well.

887
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 3: Let's talk about Trey Hendrickson Bengals decided not to move

888
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 3: him at the trade deadline. What did you make of

889
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 3: that move? And how do you expect this to play

890
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 3: out coming up into the next offseason where he's obviously

891
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 3: eligible for the tag and the price, How do you

892
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 3: expect this to work out with the Bengals and tray

893
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: another season of this.

894
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 7: It was just part for the course, really, when you

895
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 7: heard reports about how they were supposedly lowering their price

896
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 7: a little bit, and then the Quinn Williams trade happens,

897
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 7: like oh, there's first round picks being thrown out for

898
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 7: defensive line and okay, now we're back in the table

899
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 7: with our price.

900
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 13: And it's like, guys, this is.

901
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 7: Not this is You're comparing apples and oranges with these

902
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 7: two players, Like this is just elementary stuff. So it

903
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 7: wasn't too shocking to not see him be moved, but

904
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 7: it does continue to lens into the fact that after

905
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 7: this guy's best year of his career, the directionlessness and

906
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 7: the carelessness of which they've treated his future is beyond disgraceful,

907
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 7: and the fact that there's just no clear plan as

908
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 7: to what to do with him and how to treat him,

909
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 7: and just putting the bandit on his contract this year

910
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 7: was just it's all been bad. So it hasn't been

911
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 7: surprising to see him still be here despite the fact

912
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 7: that he probably shouldn't be here with the way.

913
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 13: That the season has gone down.

914
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 7: But it does open the door, of course, for them

915
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 7: to as much power as possible in the situation, place

916
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 7: another franchise tag on him, making weight it out see

917
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 7: if a team is desperate enough to give him a first

918
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 7: round pick for a guy who's now older and has

919
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 7: another injury on his raps sheet, which is not going

920
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 7: to increase his value at all. So the fact that

921
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 7: they didn't just get this over with is just beyond me.

922
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 7: But it's it's not shocking at all, I guess.

923
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 4: Not only to the points you just mentioned, John, but

924
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 4: what about just the off season for Zach Taylor or

925
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 4: whoever the head coaches of the Cincinnati Bengals, because it

926
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 4: just feels like that would become more of a distraction

927
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 4: again for this team. I thought, going into the offseason

928
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 4: you wanted to eliminate as many distractions as possible, and

929
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 4: then the Trey Hendrickson thing happened, Shamar Stewart thing happened.

930
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 4: Wouldn't that just be putting another burden of a distraction

931
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 4: on this team going forward. If you're going to play

932
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 4: the same song and dance with Trey Hendrickson.

933
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 7: It doesn't matter to them because the way that they

934
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 7: manage business from the front office level and from.

935
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 13: The coaching level is just so disjointed.

936
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 7: There's no clarity, there's no conciseness with what they want

937
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 7: to do from like a team wide vision standpoint. If

938
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 7: there was, then there would be clear to us to

939
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 7: what to do with Trey Anderson and not leaving out

940
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 7: on limbo for several months this offseason until finally resolving

941
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 7: that a week before the regular season begins. It completely

942
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 7: disrupts what you're trying to do from a coaching perspective,

943
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 7: because from a business side of things, you just want

944
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 7: to win. You don't want to do things in the

945
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 7: timely manner that helps out everybody within your organization. And

946
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 7: that continues to be the problem with this team. The

947
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 7: management side of things, they want to do things their way,

948
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 7: and then they force the coach to take these questions

949
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 7: from reporters because we can't talk to anybody in management

950
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 7: about this, and it's just like the coach is just

951
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 7: left sitting on his hands, like I don't know what

952
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 7: you want to do. Like Trey is here, like he

953
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 7: wants to play, he wants to practice, but he's got

954
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 7: to handle his own stuff. And hopefully it doesn't happen

955
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 7: yet again next offseason. But until something clicks within the

956
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 7: front office, that's probably the most like the scenario.

957
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 4: A scenario that I don't know potentially could unfold, that

958
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 4: of Zach Taylor or that of Duke Tobin. Do you

959
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 4: envision a change for this organization at either head coach

960
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 4: or the de facto GM.

961
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 7: It really has to come down to someone speaking up

962
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 7: inside that building, whether it's Mike Brown at the age

963
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 7: of almost ninety years old, saying that we need to change,

964
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 7: or it comes from the quarterback and Joe Burrow, whatever,

965
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 7: whomever has the most power within that building has to

966
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 7: do something.

967
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 13: Because I do think.

968
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 7: That while it's never really been a serious conversation about

969
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 7: a change in the quote unquote GM chair of that team,

970
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 7: despite the fact that there isn't actually a GM, this

971
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 7: is gonna be potentially the third year in a row

972
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 7: in which they don't make the playoffs. The last time

973
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 7: that happened was Marvin Lewis's final three years here as

974
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 7: head coach, and obviously significant changes followed that in twenty

975
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 7: nineteen with the hiring of Zach Taylor and really Duke

976
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 7: Tobin being at the face of that hiring as well.

977
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 7: Like these these two guys are basically paired together with

978
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 7: the last six seven years of this operation. So I

979
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 7: really do think that if this season goes down the

980
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 7: way that we all expected to do, which is them

981
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 7: not making the playoffs, then you could see something. But again,

982
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 7: something has to happen internally. Someone has to speak up

983
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 7: and put their foot down and say enough is enough.

984
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 7: We got to change at least this part of it

985
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 7: so as possible. But it still He's been there for

986
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 7: almost thirty years, and I'll believe it when I see it.

987
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 4: Offensively, I know for this team going forward, the offense

988
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 4: hasn't been a problem, and I know that there are

989
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 4: still percentage points out there that this team can make

990
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 4: a run and make the playoffs because of what the

991
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 4: AFC looks like. But knowing where this defense is and

992
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 4: knowing where this season is heading, especially with the next

993
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 4: five opponents, do you envision a scenario at all where

994
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow does take another snap for this team this year.

995
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 7: I really don't if at like you know, gun to

996
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 7: my head, I would say no because of just how

997
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 7: tough the next month is going to be and the

998
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 7: fact that they could possibly be at something around five

999
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 7: and eight, which is where they were last year, and

1000
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 7: then they can hold on to the fact that they

1001
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 7: won the last four or five games the last season

1002
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 7: and have that be the basis of why this this

1003
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 7: is now still possible. But it really takes them winning

1004
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 7: as pretty significant underdogs despite you know, with the defense

1005
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 7: that they have, and if Burrow is at best looking

1006
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 7: at mid December, at that point, you're probably still a

1007
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 7: couple of games under five. And I just don't think

1008
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 7: that that is the good scenario which you bring him

1009
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 7: back there. It's gonna take something very unlikely within the

1010
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 7: next month for I think all that tone to be

1011
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 7: changed and for him to be willing to actually do. Obviously,

1012
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 7: I think he wants to play, but there has to

1013
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 7: be also be something along along the lines of, Look,

1014
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 7: Joe Flacco is playing fine enough and this is probably

1015
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 7: not going to end the way that anybody wants to.

1016
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 7: So I just I would say that he's probably not

1017
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 7: going to play just because of how the last two

1018
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 7: weeks have gone down and how that impacts their chances

1019
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 7: of actually making this playoff push.

1020
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 4: I would envision that the asking price will be driven

1021
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 4: up based on his play on the field. But would

1022
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 4: you be making it at priority going forward into next

1023
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 4: year to find a way to get Joe Flacco back

1024
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 4: on this roster, if nothing more than to be a

1025
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 4: backup and more of a mentor to Joe Burrow. Would

1026
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 4: you be making that one of your offseason priorities.

1027
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 6: Man, that's a good question.

1028
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 7: I feel like no one's really asked that yet, but

1029
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 7: it's definitely something I would consider at this point. I

1030
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 7: think it comes down to what he wants, and I

1031
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 7: think that he realizes that he's in the best possible

1032
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 7: situation for him at this point in his career because

1033
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 7: he's never dealt with an offense and he's never commanded

1034
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 7: an offense quite like this with this much firepower, and

1035
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 7: I think he's very much enjoying it. And maybe there's

1036
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 7: also an awareness that, Yeah, for as great as Joe

1037
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 7: Burrow is, he does deal with some injuries from time

1038
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 7: to time, and that's always an opportunity for him to

1039
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 7: get some more playing time.

1040
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 13: But obviously there's going to be.

1041
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 7: At least a couple of bad teams that are watching

1042
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 7: what's happening in Cincinnati. Is probably going to make somewhat

1043
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 7: of a push for him, And he's probably going to

1044
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 7: be a little bit more expencive than your thinking, just

1045
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 7: because he comes with the pedigree winning a super Bowl

1046
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 7: and is coming off of just this insane stretch of production.

1047
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 7: So I'm really interested to see how he finishes the season. Obviously,

1048
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 7: I'm not expecting four hundred yards and four touchdowns every

1049
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 7: single week, and if that happens, then maybe you are

1050
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 7: talking about a different outcome.

1051
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 13: For the season.

1052
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 7: But yeah, like if he wants to come back and

1053
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 7: be a backup, I would actually be on that, But

1054
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 7: I just don't think that's going to be his best option.

1055
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 4: When you look at this team up front, Joe Flacco's

1056
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 4: ability to go under center, and they've unlocked a running

1057
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 4: game which in fact has helped the offensive line and

1058
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 4: the quick passing. At the bye week, looking at where

1059
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 4: this team has been, how do you assess the old

1060
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:05,479
Speaker 4: line as a whole.

1061
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 7: The old line I think is playing well. It's not

1062
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 7: it's not going out of its mind. It's not significantly

1063
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 7: better than what it was in the best days of

1064
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 7: Joe Burrow, but I think it definitely benefits them to

1065
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 7: go under center and to balance it out with the

1066
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 7: wrung game. I think it's made their lives a little

1067
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 7: bit easier, and you are seeing it. Like again, like

1068
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 7: the numbers aren't drastically different necessarily, and especially because like

1069
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 7: Joe Flacco does get the ball out really quickly on average,

1070
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 7: and when he is pressured, it doesn't look as good

1071
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 7: as when Joe Burrow is pressured, So there is some

1072
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 7: deception happening, I think with what people are seeing, But overall,

1073
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 7: the offensive line is playing fine. Like, if this is

1074
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 7: the outcome, if this is the result of this offseason

1075
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 7: where in which they didn't address the guard position properly

1076
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 7: and they made some lastings, which is, if this is

1077
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 7: where it is now based off of their process, I

1078
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 7: think you would take this result.

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Speaker 13: It's not where it.

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Speaker 7: Should be necessarily for a season long sustainability standpoint, but

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Speaker 7: I think it's been okay and I think obviously it's

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Speaker 7: not the biggest problem with the team at all.

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Speaker 3: Sustainability is the question I look to going into the

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00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 3: second half of the year. Obviously, what Joe Flacco has

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00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 3: done has been amazing. Here comes a bye week, Here

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00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 3: comes a little bit more time for teams to prepare

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Speaker 3: with more film. Is the model in which they've been

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00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 3: able to use over the last couple is that sustainable

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Speaker 3: through the back end of the year, at least on

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Speaker 3: the offensive side of the ball?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Like again, forty two points is not the expectation

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00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 7: every single week, and I think they've definitely take advantage

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Speaker 7: of just I think the teams not necessarily knowing what

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00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 7: to expect with Flaco under center. But so long as

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00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 7: he continues to make timely decisions and he continues to

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Speaker 7: put the ball in the vicinity of his best receivers,

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Speaker 7: I would expect that this offense remains at the very

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Speaker 7: least competitive.

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Speaker 13: I don't envision a lot of.

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Speaker 7: Stinkers necessarily, and obviously they cannot afford that with the

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Speaker 7: way that this defense is playing. But it also could

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Speaker 7: come down to the point where the offense is doing

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Speaker 7: everything in the power to try to keep up with

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Speaker 7: what the defense is doing.

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00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 13: Point that could reach somewhat of.

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Speaker 7: A breaking point, right if you're thinking about it from

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00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 7: a mental aspect, If you go into every week thinking

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00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 7: that you need to score forty or fifty points to

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Speaker 7: even have a chance at winning. Like, I can't imagine

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00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 7: the toll that the takes on the guys on the

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00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 7: offensive side of the ball and how that kind of

1112
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 7: impacts their mental So it's not something that we can

1113
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 7: really talk about or quantify necessarily, but it is something

1114
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 7: that I think about because of how disjointed that locker

1115
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 7: room probably is from one side of the other.

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Speaker 3: John, before we let you go, I can't help it,

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Speaker 3: but notice on your Twitter bio it says a versatile

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00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 3: guy per Jeff Hobson. Can you explain that? Did Jeff

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00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 3: Hobson once call you a versatile guy?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: I remember you guys.

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Speaker 7: You guys talked about this after I came off the

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Speaker 7: air at one point I meant to bring this up.

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Speaker 7: But we had Jeff Hobson on for the Orange Blug

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Speaker 7: Inside of Bengals podcast three years ago. It was the

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Speaker 7: start of the twenty twenty two season. We were talking

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00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 7: about after they, you know, had that embarrassing loss to

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Speaker 7: the Steelers, and you know, we were talking to Jeff

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Speaker 7: and just a wonderful, nice old man. Yeah, and he

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Speaker 7: at the very end of the program like you know, John,

1131
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 7: like you you're a versatile guy. And I didn't hear

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Speaker 7: anything he said after that because I was blushing because

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Speaker 7: as a great compliment from.

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Speaker 11: A great man.

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Speaker 7: So immediately after that interview over, we thank Jeff and

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00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 7: I edited my bio and it hasn't changed since its

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00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 7: probably never gonna change.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome.

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Speaker 11: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Jeff is the best.

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00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 4: I love it John. Even though it's a bye week,

1142
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 4: I know the work does not stop for you. What's

1143
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 4: the easiest way for folks to follow along with everything

1144
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 4: he got going on?

1145
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 7: Absolutely, it is the sports dot Com backslash Cincinnati. It

1146
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 7: is the Sports Cincinnati. Wherever you get your short form

1147
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 7: video content, TikTok, Instagram. You see, we are everywhere. My

1148
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 7: face is everywhere. My face is honestly too many places

1149
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 7: at this point with the Bengals being this bad.

1150
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 13: But keep it locked in. We got some stuff for you.

1151
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 3: You're the best, John, Thanks so much for joining us.

1152
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 3: We'll talk next week. Enjoy that bye week. Thanks, fellows,

1153
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 3: It's John.

1154
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 4: Sharon a is e sports versatile, Versatile John sharing appreciative

1155
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 4: of his time and of our listeners time as well,

1156
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 4: because now we get to hear from them via talkbacks.

1157
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 4: Next thanks to Cincey Sure TSPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1158
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 3: Now do it all and grab.

1159
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 14: Your phone and record a message.

1160
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: Just hit that micropphone.

1161
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 15: Please keep it clean and doping mean and those sprinkl

1162
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 15: sprinkle drift drift drip.

1163
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:13,959
Speaker 2: It's at Dunkert Talkbacks.

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00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 16: It's stuck favorite party since three sixty.

1165
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 15: So Austin, buddy, play those talkbacks on your screen and

1166
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 15: please dRIT not do sabataja.

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Speaker 4: All right, your Thursday edition of the Bye Week of

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00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 4: Talkbacks ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. We thank our

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Speaker 4: friends at Cincy Shirts for all their support. Also, if

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Speaker 4: you're looking to get fitted up between now and Saturday

1171
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 4: night for the finale game three Win or go Home

1172
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 4: FC Cincinnati against Columbus FC Cincinnati, uh looking to advance

1173
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 4: to take on Messi in Miami, Sincey Shirts, as you covered,

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Speaker 4: stop into any of the retail locations and get yourself

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Speaker 4: ready for match day or any other day.

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Speaker 17: Thanks to our friends at Sinti Shirts. Morning, Phil, have

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00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 17: you seen my wife? She went out again last night? Okay,

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00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 17: I'm just working on a talkback.

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Speaker 18: Hello Tony, Hello, Austin, I hate New York. I hate Bomp,

1180
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 18: I hate Pittsburgh, and did Lanta.

1181
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 17: When I hear Zach Taylor speak, I need my Lanta.

1182
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it always hits man, beautiful little ditty right now,

1183
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 3: always go curious.

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00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 19: Everything from noon to three had Tony Pike's name all

1185
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 19: over it because everything at Tony's home has Meredith's name

1186
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 19: all over it, and Tony just needed.

1187
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:46,919
Speaker 6: Something of his own.

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Speaker 20: Just kidding, brother, y'all have a good day and always

1189
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 20: remember to do day.

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Speaker 3: On Meredith Pike's Christmas. I got him up. I got

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00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,479
Speaker 3: a bye weekend coming up, and I think what's gonna

1192
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 3: happen is Maryor's going to point the stuff in the

1193
00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 3: garage and I'm gonna pick that stuff up and throw

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00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 3: it a That's what I think has happened on the public.

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Speaker 21: The Lord, I've heard some interesting stories in the past

1196
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 21: couple of days to Tom Brady cleinning his dog story. Now,

1197
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 21: have you guys heard this story? Oh, Kim Kardashian has

1198
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 21: been selected to a research team researching a comment that's

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Speaker 21: passing by with alien life. Have you guys heard of

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Speaker 21: this one?

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Speaker 5: Interesting?

1202
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 6: Interesting?

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01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 3: I think it might be time to log off. I

1204
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 3: have it, but I am a firm believer in UFOs

1205
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 3: and sasquat.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: Anyways, hey fella, escape an eye on you see clare

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01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 15: my basket ball. Yeah, I know they took the l

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01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 15: at Northery're not Tenny. That's Algonquin for the good Land.

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Speaker 15: But things are looking up.

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Speaker 22: This Monday, they are on the road.

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Speaker 15: At Cincinnati State Online Study certificate that's going to be

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Speaker 15: played at Vineyard or Western Campus Auxiliary slash Worship Center,

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Speaker 15: Lemon Spot.

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Speaker 3: That's a big one for u C. Claremont. I'm a

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Speaker 3: UFOs and yes, thanks Baker Baker alm.

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01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 16: Audiomo and we've Steven A Smith and espno wone. Wet

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Speaker 16: them play the sultail game.

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Speaker 22: Wet them make more money.

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Speaker 3: I've been getting killed for this. Crazy. I don't understand crazy.

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01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 4: If someone came to you right now and said, hey,

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Speaker 4: here's one thousand dollars and we just need you to

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Speaker 4: send a video about solitaire, I would do it in

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Speaker 4: a heartbeat.

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Speaker 3: You also have free will to not play the games

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Speaker 3: that they're promoting. Correct. How often do you hear a

1227
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Speaker 3: promotion or an advertisement for something that doesn't interest you.

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01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that you immediately go and purchase that product.

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01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 3: You have free will ye to do whatever you want.

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Speaker 3: Does this make people mad? I don't get it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and those people have free will to go make their

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01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 3: damn money, so let him do it. Yeah, Cats rep

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Speaker 3: in the city out here in sunny hot on it.

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Speaker 23: What up, Tony?

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Speaker 2: What updy man?

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Speaker 24: If I had to vote for the rents is easily VP.

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Speaker 24: That dude was a human highlight reel. Defense was phenomenal.

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01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 24: The dude can hit, but the defense was excellent. I

1239
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 24: wish we had to play like that on our team.

1240
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 24: Oh we got somebody like that third basement go glove,

1241
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 24: but he can't hit.

1242
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 3: We could play good defense, but he can't hit.

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Speaker 25: Man.

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01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 24: That's Cincinnati. Get this win, Bearcats, get off the two

1245
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 24: and nose start.

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Speaker 3: Go. Got God for bah bah, Let's go.

1247
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 4: You see God God for bah Ba.

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Speaker 3: Hey Austin, Hey you got a jet pack? Do you

1249
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:43,439
Speaker 3: have a jet pack?

1250
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Speaker 19: I'm just wondering how you go down to Georgia without actually.

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Speaker 8: Going on the road.

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01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, one of them fancy jet pack.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let them know. Let him know if you had

1254
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 3: if you had ears in a brain, you would hear that.

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01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 3: I said, true road games on campus, road games.

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Speaker 6: Tony Audi Bill in Westchester.

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Speaker 23: Hey, I think the Phillies are going to keep Calis

1258
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 23: Forber anyway, So I hope they just sign him tonight

1259
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 23: and we don't have to go through a full off

1260
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Speaker 23: season of talking about that.

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Speaker 6: You know something that the.

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Speaker 23: Cassolini's finding spending thirty million dollars on a guy, that's

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Speaker 23: just silly and and honestly, I'm not sure i'd want

1264
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 23: to see Kyle Forber have to go through a contract

1265
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 23: like that in Cincinnati, given how Joey Vada was treated,

1266
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Speaker 23: because that was just sad.

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01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're seeing it with Joe Burrow right now.

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Speaker 3: People have already turned their backs on Joe Burrow because

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Speaker 3: they think he makes too much money. And you know,

1270
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Speaker 3: just because Flacco has been good that that means Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow is not. Do you view this an asinine way

1272
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Speaker 3: of thinking? Do you view the UC opener as a

1273
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 3: neutral site game the loss of Nebraska? Uh? Yeah, okay,

1274
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 3: that's fine. I was just wondering, and again that's their fault.

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01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 3: UC needed the money, so they took the money. Sure,

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Speaker 3: much like the good folks tweeting out about Solitaire.

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Speaker 26: The Reds Hall of Fame potential inductees. To me, it

1278
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 26: seems like the bars said a little low. I mean,

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Speaker 26: some of them really didn't jump off the page. I'd

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Speaker 26: put Mike Leak in the shoplifting Hall of.

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Speaker 5: Fame with Renona ryder.

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Speaker 3: Man. I think maybe an exercis how about why NOA

1283
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 3: getting a shot out of like a series of like

1284
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 3: somebody goes back to those incidents to find out what

1285
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 3: really happened, because that's all blurry to me. The Mike

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01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 3: Leak stealing T shirts from Macy's. Macy's is gone now right.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 20: So you said if Joe Flacco could help Joe Burrow,

1289
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Speaker 20: and I say one thousand percent. The reason Joe Burrow

1290
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 20: keeps getting injured sometimes is he tries to extend plays

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Speaker 20: and then he gets creamed. One thing I've noticed with

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Speaker 20: Joe Flacco is when he sees a dangerous situation, he

1293
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 20: just throws it out of bounds and just live to

1294
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 20: fight another day.

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Speaker 4: One of the craziest things in going back and looking

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Speaker 4: at the Mike League thing. He was arrested on a

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01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 4: shoplifting charge where he was accused of stealing six shirts,

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01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 4: which the total value was sixty dollars. Yeah, that that

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01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 4: never made sense to me six for ten, sixty bucks Man

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01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 4: sixty bucks.

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Speaker 3: I there's another thing. There's a narrative out there that

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01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow gets hurt because he extends plays. That's not true. Yeah,

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01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 3: the knee injury in twenty twenty, he stood in the

1304
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 3: pocket and delivered a ball on time, but got blown

1305
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 3: up by Michael Jordan. The wrist injury happened because he

1306
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 3: landed on it. Weird yep, the turf toe. As we outlined,

1307
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase didn't win one on one and the pocket

1308
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 3: collapsed on Joe Burrow. Now that one, you could probably

1309
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 3: say he could have gotten rid of it. But even then,

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01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 3: the appendectomy had nothing to do with extending plays. The

1311
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 3: calf injury, he was at practice and rolling out. They

1312
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 3: don't get hit in practice, so you start working on

1313
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 3: broken down plays correct. So it's one of the worst

1314
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Speaker 3: narratives around. I do think Joe Flacco will just ditch

1315
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 3: a ball and get rid of it, and the reason

1316
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 3: for that is because he can't move and he knows

1317
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 3: he'll get crushed. Burrow does have the ability to extend

1318
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 3: plays and off schedule is among the best in the NFL.

1319
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 3: He doesn't get hurt because he extends plays. That's not true.

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Speaker 11: My apologies.

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Speaker 6: If this is a duplic.

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01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 3: Yep, it's duplicate.

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01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 27: TP fifteen Audie v in WG. Hey, I was listening

1324
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 27: to your Bicell hold earlier about Kyle Schwerber.

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01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 6: He's from Middletown.

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01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 27: Y'all know that I'm from Middletown. I don't know Kyle,

1327
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 27: but I I really know people that know him. Dude,

1328
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 27: he's already worth over one hundred million dollars. If he's

1329
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 27: I know he's managed it well. It's not about the money, man,

1330
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 27: I would not be surprised if he takes a hometown discount.

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01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 11: If the Reds are willing up the budget.

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Speaker 3: I wish he did. I just don't see him doing

1333
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 3: it now. He's gonna be here in a couple of

1334
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 3: weeks for an event in Middletown. Don't let him leave.

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01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 3: Do you think he would take a meeting with the Reds?

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01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 3: Don't let him leave. They should a meeting. They should,

1337
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 3: at the at the very least, say Kyle, you're here,

1338
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 3: we're here, let's talk. Just see where we're at.

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01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 13: Sure, good afternoon, guys.

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Speaker 28: He's talking about how bad the Bengals tackling is if

1341
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 28: the Bengals tackling was as bad as it is, would

1342
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 28: they win the National Championship by tackling against like another

1343
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 28: team in the NFL?

1344
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 6: Or would they be.

1345
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 28: Competing against themselves and somehow tie. Also, I think with

1346
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 28: p Ryan hurt, Chase Brown's numbers go down.

1347
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 3: Thanks who broke my brain with that? I don't know

1348
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 3: if I.

1349
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 4: Don't even know what that just was. Can they win

1350
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 4: the super Bowl of mistackling?

1351
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 3: Sure? I think there was a super.

1352
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 4: Bowl of misstack. I mean that Madison. I am now

1353
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 4: dumber then I was going into the day.

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01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 28: Hey, another thing about Joe Flacco, I think if he

1355
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 28: did stay with the Bengals, maybe Joe Burrow would learn

1356
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,719
Speaker 28: who he thinks about throwing the ball away a little

1357
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 28: quicker so he doesn't get hurt.

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01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 3: That might end up saving.

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01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 28: The Bengals money in the long run, because Burrow gets hurt.

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01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 28: He learned a few things from lack of he could

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01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:06,799
Speaker 28: stay healthy all year.

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01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 29: Chow okay okay okay, Tony and Austin Ray from please

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01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 29: question And I'm really not being smart like when I

1364
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 29: asked this, I really don't know with this tackling problem

1365
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 29: on the Bengals and it's more than just a couple, guys.

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01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 16: I think we had what three or four of the

1367
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 16: top nine mistackles in the league. Is it really bad

1368
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 16: coaching or is it possible that they're just afraid to tackle.

1369
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 3: I don't think they're afraid to take one of the two,

1370
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 3: doesn't it I just think they are poor in space.

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01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 3: I think they take bad angles. I think they have

1372
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 3: bad fundamentals. I don't think that they're often in the

1373
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 3: right spot. So you could say coaching has something to

1374
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 3: do with that. I don't think it's a lack of willingness.

1375
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a lack of trying. I think

1376
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 3: good mornings, lack of skill.

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01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 22: Hey, the Turbo Tony in Austin heard you guys talking

1378
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 22: about Joe Burrow potentially coming back this year, and just

1379
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 22: have to wonder does that jeopardize his chances of becoming

1380
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 22: the first three time come back play of the year

1381
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 22: next year.

1382
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 3: Oh, we didn't discuss that. I hope that happens. I

1383
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 3: hope that he wins it again next year because that

1384
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 3: would mean he balls out. Yep, But I for his

1385
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 3: sake having to be up there on that stage again, please,

1386
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 3: oh please.

1387
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 9: No, guys, Jonathan from the East Gate. You know, I

1388
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 9: had a lot of fun at the game. It was

1389
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 9: an interesting one, especially being a Bears fan. But I

1390
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 9: will say that hit on Lovelin for that touchdown. How

1391
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 9: many people do you know that could take that hit

1392
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 9: and then keep trucking. That guy is a beast and

1393
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 9: he's gonna be going a long way in the NFL.

1394
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 9: Dub Bears just for going.

1395
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 3: He may become a very good player. But that was

1396
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 3: a very poor tackling it six six and Jordan Battle

1397
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 3: gave him everything he had. Yep, didn't stand a chance.

1398
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 3: It's like just running full speed into a brick wall. Foolish.

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Speaker 23: The top three Lamoine University alternate.

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01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 3: Nick name and mascot Oh, okay.

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01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 6: Number three the Lemoine.

1402
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 3: Lemon, oh, you know like the Syracuse Orange right.

1403
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 13: Number two the Lemoine Leap and Lemurs damn.

1404
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 23: And the number one alternate nickname and mascot for Leamoyne

1405
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 23: University is.

1406
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 6: It's an overly amorous.

1407
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,560
Speaker 15: Skunk, the Lemoine lip.

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01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 3: Hughes, I'm the Leap and Lemurs. I like that. Do

1409
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 3: you have any idea what their actual mascot is? No,

1410
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 3: the Knights, the Dolphins, oh oh yeah, we talked about that.

1411
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 6: The Dolphins.

1412
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 3: I don't think there's dolphins in Syracuse, New York. That

1413
01:11:58,520 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 3: was my thought.

1414
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 11: By County Snack. This is Girth Brooks.

1415
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 19: That list of Reds players for the Hall of Fame trash.

1416
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 19: It couldn't be a mediocre employee at Sincy Shirts or

1417
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 19: Skyline that's why for thirty five years or the Cincinnati Reds.

1418
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 3: Dang yeah, I mean I I got a lot of

1419
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 3: respect for all those dudes. Brandon Phillips is the only

1420
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 3: one who deserves it. B Phil, that dude.

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01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 30: Hi, guys, great show today, What a beautiful fall day.

1422
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 30: Hope you got a chance to catch that beautiful moon

1423
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 30: last night too. Kentucky Basketball, whoa, I'm excited, big UK

1424
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 30: fan here so Ken in the les, Here we go, Bro,

1425
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:51,719
Speaker 30: It's gonna be a good season.

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01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 3: Have a great day, guys. Okay, can you imagine Lynn

1427
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 3: and Ken Wow teaming up for al TikTok dance at

1428
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 3: Marl No, they should do it at Keenland. Ooh, do

1429
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 3: it at Keenland, Tony, Tony.

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01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 31: It's happen.

1431
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 15: And even Dow, your favorite talkbacker, I've been gone for

1432
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 15: a while.

1433
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 28: I got my I got my head cleared out a

1434
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 28: little bit.

1435
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:18,719
Speaker 15: Anyways, explain to me this three three five defense.

1436
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:20,799
Speaker 22: I hate it.

1437
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:21,799
Speaker 2: It's not defense.

1438
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 15: I mean, defense is meant to be big and strong.

1439
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 13: It's just the defeatist defense.

1440
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 15: Why couldn't you at least like move five men up or.

1441
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 3: Four men up from time to time? I don't know,

1442
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 3: I don't get it. Thanks seven. Yeah, my cousin's uh

1443
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,759
Speaker 3: brother in law knows a guy that works at Molar,

1444
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 3: said that Richard Patino's trying to.

1445
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 20: Get a game of Molar and Xavier. Uh, but they're

1446
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 20: gonna play neutral side at the Heritage Bank Center.

1447
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 31: Uh.

1448
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 3: You guys heard anything about this? Well done?

1449
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 18: Yeah, Tony just asked John Shearing A great question. I've

1450
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 18: actually been wondering for a few days now. And that's

1451
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 18: where the Battles would consider re signing a forty one

1452
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 18: year old Joe Flacco. If we're interested in take crownings

1453
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 18: in the contract year and everybody loves Joe and the

1454
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 18: job he's done. I think it would be great they.

1455
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 3: Have him back.

1456
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 4: The only the only thing that's tough is both being

1457
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 4: named Joe. It's hard to have a conversation. You gotta

1458
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 4: start using flac Ewen Burrow. I think we call him flak. Yeah,

1459
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 4: and at the end of the day, flak. Can you

1460
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 4: describe it any more detail? What the Jake Browning contract

1461
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 4: situation currently looks like?

1462
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 3: It's just a normal contract.

1463
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 31: Okay, yeah, Okay, Tony Addie, what up was?

1464
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 11: These talkbacks are pure poetry?

1465
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 22: Man holy cow?

1466
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 13: Who is that man's?

1467
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 3: And seven?

1468
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 32: I think so Joe A long time, first time. It's

1469
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 32: a couple of questions. I'd love to hit your feedback going.

1470
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 32: Can we retire the orange Pants?

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01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 3: No?

1472
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 32: The orange pants Bengals play like trash whenever they wear them,

1473
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 32: and we look more like the Browns, and now we

1474
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 32: start acting like the Browns once the orange Pants came

1475
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 32: around second week? Can we stop drafting the University of

1476
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 32: Michigan players? Now the Connors Stallions is gone and they

1477
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 32: don't know the play before they get lined up?

1478
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 6: True?

1479
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 32: All the University of Michigan defenders pretty terrible outside that

1480
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 32: Hutchinson guy.

1481
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 3: To know your thoughts, I've been I've been pounding that

1482
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 3: drum for a while. There's something to that, but bum bum.

1483
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 11: I'm with you, guys.

1484
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 6: The only person on that Reds Hall of Fame list

1485
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 6: that deserves to be in. There is Jay Cargill's husband too.

1486
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. I see Cargill. I like that.

1487
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 3: I see his posts all the time too, Like he

1488
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 3: is a super fan of her, Like he's the best. Hey, guys,

1489
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:49,759
Speaker 3: markers from the grove.

1490
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 6: Obviously, Phillips is out of doubt, and.

1491
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 33: But to be honest, though, Coco Cordero is second in

1492
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 33: team history and career save with one hundred and fifty.

1493
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 33: He's got a strong case in my opinion, to be

1494
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 33: in the Reds Hall Fame as well.

1495
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 3: That's a sneaky good stat from Marcus right there. I

1496
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 3: just I guess I didn't realize how many he had.

1497
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 3: But I remember Marty Brennaman calling him full pack Cordero

1498
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 3: towards the end because watching him pitch made you want

1499
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 3: to smoke a full pack. Oh god, that's our last one,

1500
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 3: you know, full pack? Can I make one other? This whole?

1501
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 4: Kyle Schwarber saying, why is it even a thing when

1502
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 4: the Reds themselves don't value home runs?

1503
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said earlier this year he could offer to

1504
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 3: play for free and they'd say no, thank you, because

1505
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:47,679
Speaker 3: they don't want to hit all the.

1506
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 4: Reds core values as we talked about much of this year,

1507
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 4: as they don't value home runs, so you want to

1508
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 4: bring in a guy that just hit a ton of them?

1509
01:16:56,720 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 4: Makes no sense. Some things they just don't make sense.

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Speaker 4: We got a football in the NATTI. I don't know

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Speaker 4: what type of football we're going to talk about, but

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Speaker 4: we're going to talk about football when we come back. Also,

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Speaker 4: your phone calls five, one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 4: We got a small window to get your phone calls

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Speaker 4: in because in our number three we've got Keegan nickoson,

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Speaker 4: Bob manjeen and I'm assuming Chad Brendel will stop. Buy

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Speaker 4: for quick hits at Sincy three sixty the Thursday edition

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Speaker 4: on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station if you're fifty

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Speaker 1: Brought to you by Bud Light on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 1: the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back, Cincy three to sixty. You heard

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Speaker 4: it right there, Football in the NATI thanks to Cincy shirts.

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Speaker 4: Let's take a look here at the NFL as a whole,

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Speaker 4: going into the bye week for the Cincinnati Bengals. Let's

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Speaker 4: start in the NFC here Austin right now. If the

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Speaker 4: playoffs were to start today, Eagles, Tampa, Seahawks, Packers are

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Speaker 4: your top four. Your wild card teams will be comprised

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01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 4: of the Rams, the Niners, and the Lions. That means

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Speaker 4: the Bears, the Panthers, Vikings, Cowboys, Cardinals and others are

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Speaker 4: on the outside looking at. My question to you, is

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Speaker 4: there any current team in the NFC on the outside

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Speaker 4: looking in that will take the place of one of

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Speaker 4: the current seven top seeds. I think Philly, Tampa, Seattle,

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01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 4: Green Bay, Los Angeles, and Detroit are locked to me

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01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 4: the one team based on just the amount of injuries

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Speaker 4: they have, and I know coaching plays a big role

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Speaker 4: in where they're at. I don't know if the San

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01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 4: Francisco forty nine ers can hold on, but I'm also

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01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 4: having a hard time deciding if San fran is out,

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01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 4: which of the remaining NFC teams take San Francisco spot.

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01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 4: Atlanta's three and five, Washington's three and six, Washington's going

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01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 4: in the wrong direction, Arizona three and five Cowboys did

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01:18:58,120 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 4: just make a bunch of moves, but they're still three

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Speaker 4: and five. How do you view the NFC from a

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Speaker 4: playoff point of view.

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Speaker 3: I'm intrigued by Carolina, and I'm intrigued by Dallas now

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01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 3: that they've made a couple of moves, and obviously the

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01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 3: tragedy this morning. Who knows what kind of effect that's

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01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 3: going to end up having on the Cowboys. But I

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01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 3: trust Kyle Shanahan and the forty nine Ers to figure

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01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 3: it out more than I do the Bears, the Panthers,

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01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 3: the vikings of the Cowboys, those first four teams out.

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01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 3: I trust the Niners to kind of figure it out

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Speaker 3: and stay afloat. Same with Detroit. So I think the

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Speaker 3: seven that are in right now are the seven that

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Speaker 3: are going to be there in January.

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Speaker 4: Okay, same question, but let's do the AFC version. Colts

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01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 4: are the one, Patriots are the two, Broncos the three,

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01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 4: and the Steelers are the four. Your wild card would

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01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 4: consist of Buffalo, Los Angeles and Jacksonville, Kansas City outside

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01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 4: looking in, Houston outside looking in, the Baltimore Ravens, and yes,

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01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 4: the Cincinnati Bengals outside looking in. Same question for the AFC, Austin,

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Speaker 4: of those seven teams, who's left standing at the end

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Speaker 4: of the year.

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Speaker 3: I thought I would see more from my Jags by now.

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01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 3: I don't love what I've seen from them lately. I

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01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 3: wonder if the Chargers can hold on without Joe Alts

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01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 3: so many injuries. It's a much different team without Joe

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01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 3: alt Now that he's done for the year. Can they

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01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,759
Speaker 3: be as effective running the football? Can they protect Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe in Houston at all, especially with CJ.

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01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 3: Stroud going to be out for a while. So I'm

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Speaker 3: going to say Kansas City gets in and then I

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01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 3: think that final spot is going to be really interesting

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Speaker 3: between the Chargers, the Jags, and the Baltimore Ravens. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Baltimore got a little bit better at the deadline, They've

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01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 3: improved their defense slightly. They've got games against Minnesota, whose

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01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 3: offense stinks, Cleveland, whose offense stinks, the Jets, who have

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01:20:56,040 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 3: no players left, the Bengals twice. I think they can

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Speaker 3: find their way back into the playoff.

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Speaker 4: I think this is an important week for Baltimore because

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Speaker 4: Minnesota is coming off a good win against Detroit. If

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Speaker 4: they get over the hurdle in against Minnesota, I think

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Speaker 4: the Ravens are So you're saying that Kansas City will

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Speaker 4: will take a spot from Jacksonville and your final spot

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Speaker 4: comes down to the Chargers, Jags, and Ravens. Yes, you

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Speaker 4: say you think Pittsburgh has stay in power. Yeah, I

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01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 4: think at five and three, I think Pittsburgh's good enough

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Speaker 4: to just yeah, to be right there. I don't know

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Speaker 4: that anyone's gonna challenge them for the division. I think

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Speaker 4: they're good enough as well. Like I think this Sunday

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Speaker 4: Night is phenomenal with them in the Chargers, I think

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01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a good match. But outside of that,

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01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh has the Bengals again, they have the Bears, the Dolphins,

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Speaker 4: and the Browns. Now they do still play the Bills,

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01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 4: the Ravens and the Detroit Lions. I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 4: sold yet that Pittsburgh is in. To me, India is in,

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01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 4: New England is and Denver is in, Buffalo is in.

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Speaker 4: I'm not there yet on Pittsburgh. I'm not there yet

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Speaker 4: on Jacksonville. And to your point, I love Harball. I

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Speaker 4: love what Harball has built in the Chargers. I think

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01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,919
Speaker 4: Herbert is fantastic. I like that they've revamped the wide receivers.

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Speaker 4: But Marion Hampton is still out. He's been on the

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Speaker 4: IR for quite some time. They lost Slater, they lost all.

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Speaker 4: I just wonder how much you can withstand losing on

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Speaker 4: one side of the ball and still consistently be there

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Speaker 4: at the end. I think Baltimore eventually gets one of

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Speaker 4: the spots. I think Kansas City gets one of the spots.

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Speaker 4: But I think the Chargers stay in. I think Pittsburgh

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Speaker 4: falls out, and I think the Jaguars fall out. So

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Speaker 4: there you go a little bit of a view of

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Speaker 4: where the NFL is at the bye week. We'll take

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Speaker 4: a break, we'll come back, we'll finish up hour two

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Speaker 4: next and then Keigan Nickoson stands by to join us

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Speaker 4: in our number three on ESPN fifteen to thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 4: Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: You've been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals, fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, it is since he three to sixty ESPN

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Speaker 4: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. The second half, Yes, the

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Speaker 4: second half of the NFL season officially gets underway tonight.

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Speaker 3: That's tough. The Raiders already and the Broncos already. Denver

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01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,839
Speaker 3: is an eight and a half point favorite tonight against

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01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 3: the lowly Las Vegas Raiders. Disappointing season from the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: I was on kind of on your line of thinking.

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Speaker 3: I thought that the Raiders were going to take a

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Speaker 3: big step forward. I thought there were going to be

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01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 3: in a good spot. That has not been the case

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01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 3: in year one under Pete Carroll. We have time for

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01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 3: at least a phone call here before we get to

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Speaker 3: Keegan Nickoson. Robert is calling in.

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Speaker 6: Hello, Robert, Hey, guys, how are you? Thank you?

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Speaker 31: I just got a couple, yes, sir, I got a

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01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 31: couple of quick football Bengals questions. One is, is there

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01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 31: any chance that in part our tackling problems might have

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01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 31: to do with, you know, giying for a turnover to

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01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 31: you know, to separate them from the ball with the

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01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 31: just the hits and not wrapping up. So that'd be

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Speaker 31: my first question. And then my second one is do

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01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 31: we still feel like there's any chance at all that

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01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 31: we can win a Super Bowl with Zach Taylor as

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Speaker 31: the head coach? And that's all I got.

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Speaker 3: Robert, thank you for the call, man. I would say

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01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 3: that's fair to criticize going after the ball a little

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01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,839
Speaker 3: bit too much. I think we've seen that at times,

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01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 3: going straight for the punch going straight for the strip

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01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 3: and then a guy carries you four more yards. We've

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01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:07,719
Speaker 3: seen that.

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01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 4: That happens, but normally teams that are trying to do

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01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 4: that are teams that need a spark on offense. You

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01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 4: would think with this Bengals team, just bring the ball,

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01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 4: carry to the ground.

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01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 3: I think they just want to go run and celebrate

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01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 3: in the end zone and go yeah, yep, I think

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01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 3: that's fair.

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01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 4: I would hope that you sit back during the bye

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01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 4: week and maybe try to cut down on that because

1659
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 4: it's clearly not working. Can this team win a Super

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01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 4: Bowl with Zach Taylor as a head coach? Yes, I would.

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Speaker 4: I would base my decision with the contingency that that

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01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 4: Duke Tobin would no longer be in place, because I

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01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 4: don't think it's currently constructed with that with those two

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01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:44,679
Speaker 4: working together.

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Speaker 3: I just don't think. I don't view the scheme as fitting.

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Speaker 3: Duke Tobin and Zach Taylor went to the Super Bowl together, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was under it was under Joe Burrow's rookie deal. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't trust them building a roster via the draft

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Speaker 4: and free agency to compete for a Super Bowl. If

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Speaker 4: Duke Tobin is is working alongside Zach Taylor, because I've

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Speaker 4: asked for years that it doesn't feel like the scheme

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01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 4: matches the personnel and look as much credit as they

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01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 4: deserve for getting there, it's easier to get there when

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01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 4: your quarterback's on a rookie deal. And I'm not even

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01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 4: saying this is directed at Zach Taylor. This to me

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01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 4: is more of a duked opein thing. I don't know

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Speaker 4: that they can do that if they've got to build

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Speaker 4: a roster when you're already paying Joe Burrow and Jamar

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01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 4: Chase and t Higgins the money you are, that's kind

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01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 4: of where I would sit with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't necessarily agree with that. I mean,

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01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 3: I think they still have look at this roster right now.

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01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 3: How can you say that this space left. They had

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01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 3: kind of space last and they screwed it up with

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01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 3: the Trey Henderson thing and waited and waited and waited.

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01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 3: They screwed up the Jamar Chase thing and waited and

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01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 3: waited and waited and cost some more money. So I'm

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01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 3: not saying that your point is wrong, but I'm not

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01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 3: going to sit here and say that they haven't shown

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01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 3: the ability to in the past adequate build a good

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01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 3: enough roster. So I can have they done so since

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01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 3: borrow has been paid. No, but that's not to say

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01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 3: that they can't. What would give you a confidence They

1695
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 3: have seventy million dollars in cap space next year and

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01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 3: the same person would be making the decisions that I

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01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,639
Speaker 3: agree with that, But that's the same person who also

1698
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 3: built that roster previously through free agency and through the draft.

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01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 3: And so if you can switch back to something similar

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01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 3: to that, then can you build that roster in a

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01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 3: similar way through free agency and through the draft. Now

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01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 3: I get where you're coming from, and I'm not to

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01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 3: say that you're wrong. I just see like there's still

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01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 3: a possibility for them to do it in a way

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01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 3: that they've done it before. Because I think one of

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01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 3: the most overblown narratives in the NFL is that you

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01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 3: can't the Super Bowl after you pay a quarterback. Philadelphia

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01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 3: and Kansas City, San Francisco, like the Rams Tampa, it's

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01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 3: it's happened, and I think but I think that they

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01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 3: are there is a significant difference and who's putting together

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01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 3: those rosters compared to what the roster wield is here.

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Speaker 3: I agree with that, I seen them. They signed Trey

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01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 3: Hendrickson originally out of free agency, the best acquisition in

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01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 3: the history of this franchise. From free agency. They traded

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01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 3: Billy Price for bj Hill, the best trade in the

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01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 3: history of this franchise. Those things have happened in recent years,

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01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 3: So there is something there that you can tap into.

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01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 3: Some experience hasn't worked out the last couple of years.

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01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 3: They've scaped goaded defensive coordinators, they've scaped goaded safeties. I

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Speaker 3: understand where you're coming from, but I'm not going to

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01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 3: just sit here and pretend like it's been a failure

1722
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 3: from the from the very beginning with these these guys,

1723
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 3: I don't think that's true.

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01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 4: I think that since Borrow has been paid, it has

1725
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 4: been a failure. And I don't and I don't categorize

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Speaker 4: them in the same sense as the Rams in Tampa

1727
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 4: and those teams that are competing, because those teams historically,

1728
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:13,719
Speaker 4: year in and year out, built a competitive roster.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you, but I mean again, the Bengals

1730
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 3: haven't had a losing season since that twenty twenty year

1731
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 3: right when Burrow first got here. They had a run

1732
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 3: of playoff appearances twenty eleven through twenty sixteen. They rebuilt

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01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 3: it with Marvin twenty years ago when Duke was still

1734
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:37,560
Speaker 3: relatively new on the job. They have had some experience

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01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 3: in starting over and helping and making it work. So

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01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 3: I just I don't think it's it's out of the

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01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 3: question to think they can do it again. Now. It's

1738
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 3: also fair to look at it and say, the last

1739
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 3: three times the Bengals have paid a franchise quarterback, what

1740
01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 3: have they done since they screwed it up with Carson?

1741
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 3: They didn't do much with Andy, and we're in this

1742
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 3: current boat with Burrow. And that's totally fair. I understand that,

1743
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 3: and that's in my mind the biggest rebuttal anyone could

1744
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 3: could have. To my point, but I just look at

1745
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 3: seventy million dollars in today's NFL and with a top

1746
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 3: three quarterback, I can't say it's impossible. Yeah, Keegan Nickoson

1747
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 3: is probably waiting already for us. We'll talk to my

1748
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 3: favorite Nickoson. Okay, we disagree on that as well. We'll

1749
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Speaker 3: talk to Kegan next. On ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati,

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01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 1: sponsored in hard by Penn Station East Coast subs Pan

1752
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: crept It hot grilled subs, fresh cut fries and lemonade.

1753
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Speaker 1: It's all about good taste. Penn Station East Coast subs

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Speaker 1: order on mine today. This is ESPN fifteenth Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back since he three to sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty

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01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 4: Cincinnati Sports Station thanks to Penn Station. I thought for

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01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 4: a second we were gonna get big timed in week

1758
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 4: two by Keegan, But he's joining us. As I just learned,

1759
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 4: it is Austin's favorite Nickoson covering the Bearcats for Bearcat Journal,

1760
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 4: joining us each and every Thursday. It's Keegan Nickoson. What's

1761
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 4: up Keegan?

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01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 6: Nothing much?

1763
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 11: Got a little flu game?

1764
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 6: Gun?

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01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 4: Oh Man, Austin, do you know that Keegan is in

1766
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:37,600
Speaker 4: possession of the only autograph I've signed up to this

1767
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 4: point with a Hall of Fame inscription on it?

1768
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:45,719
Speaker 3: No, this is breaking news. Bomb did what did you sign?

1769
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 11: I think?

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01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 34: I think the interesting thing is is that Tony just

1771
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 34: assumed that I took the name plate out of the

1772
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:57,639
Speaker 34: press box in Utah, and he would be completely right

1773
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:00,959
Speaker 34: that I did, so I can't blame them there.

1774
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 4: You have a every when you go on the road Austin,

1775
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 4: they have like a little paper nameplate with where you're

1776
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 4: supposed to sit from a media standpoint, And I found

1777
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 4: Keegan's nameplate and I signed Keegan my second favorite nickoson

1778
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 4: Tony Pike Hall of Fame twenty twenty five.

1779
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 3: Oh so you did it yourself? Yeah, okay, again the

1780
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 3: ego on this guy. Everything, everything's gonna have Tony's name

1781
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 3: on it these days. Uh, Keegan?

1782
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 4: What do What do the Bearcats need to do on

1783
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:28,639
Speaker 4: the football side of things coming out of this by

1784
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 4: to get back on track to where they were?

1785
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 11: Oh, that's a good question.

1786
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 34: I think they just need to play their brand of football,

1787
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 34: and I think winning maybe a gutsy or a the

1788
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 34: game might help them a little bit because kind of

1789
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 34: the few weeks heading up to the Utah game, and

1790
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 34: we talked about it before, like they kind of played

1791
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 34: perfectly and we we were sitting there thinking about how

1792
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:56,639
Speaker 34: they pulled this one out, and we looked at each

1793
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 34: other and we're like, we might have a stinker coming

1794
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 34: from U. See, I'd be really interested to see what

1795
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 34: they look like, and that's what we got. But I

1796
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 34: just think play their brand of football. Get back to

1797
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:13,639
Speaker 34: the receivers, not going against really good dbs, not playing

1798
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 34: against one of the best defensive lines in the Big twelve,

1799
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 34: and maybe they can light someone up, but they need

1800
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:22,479
Speaker 34: to get their slider backed a little bit because they

1801
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:27,599
Speaker 34: got exposed. And they're still in total control of what

1802
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 34: they want to do, which is good at Dallas for

1803
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:30,719
Speaker 34: a big Teal championship and.

1804
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 5: They can absolutely went out.

1805
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:36,680
Speaker 4: When we talked before the game, it was you got

1806
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 4: to avoid the things that you've done so well all year.

1807
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 4: You can't have those creep in and next thing you know,

1808
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 4: they miss a field goal. Russ Neck have been perfect

1809
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 4: all year. They had not turn the ball over inside

1810
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,720
Speaker 4: the twenty Swersby fumbles it, there's another interception. Sworsby has

1811
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 4: been so good at not throwing interceptions. There's a punt

1812
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 4: return for a touchdown. It was just a comedy of airs.

1813
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 4: Do you worry at all about this team who last

1814
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 4: year was at five and two when things kind of

1815
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 4: fell apart after a bad loss the rest of the way.

1816
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:09,680
Speaker 4: Do you like the makeup better of this team that

1817
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 4: they can come together after a buy and get things

1818
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 4: back on track, or do you worry about the hangover

1819
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:14,680
Speaker 4: effect here.

1820
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:17,879
Speaker 11: I like the makeup.

1821
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 34: I like the leadership that they have and the determination

1822
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 34: that this team shows.

1823
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 6: I think they're really really tight.

1824
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,720
Speaker 34: Got to see practice on Tuesday Wednesday, and everyone was

1825
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 34: in high spirits.

1826
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:29,679
Speaker 11: They were all having fun.

1827
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:31,759
Speaker 6: It wasn't like a doom and gloom.

1828
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 34: No one was that angry of you know, we got

1829
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 34: to figure this out and there's a ton of pressure

1830
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:36,360
Speaker 34: on them.

1831
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 6: I think this team loves playing football together.

1832
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 34: And you know, you were listing all those things about

1833
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 34: you know, special teams have been really good and then

1834
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 34: it's just really bad.

1835
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 6: But even from the first play of.

1836
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 34: The game, when you have that balladded down as the

1837
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 34: lightest scrimmage, it's like, oh crap, that hasn't happened and

1838
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 34: what feels like two years.

1839
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 11: So yeah, it was. It was a comedy of theirs.

1840
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 34: And it was kind of the opposite of the kind

1841
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 34: of football that that UC's played.

1842
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 6: And I think that can maybe they can see it as.

1843
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,520
Speaker 34: A fluke, Maybe they can go forward with the confidence

1844
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 34: of you know, that's that's not the team we are.

1845
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 34: Most teams have those kind of games in a given season.

1846
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 34: Look at Alabama, I mean they're I think.

1847
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 6: Number four number four or.

1848
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:24,640
Speaker 34: Five, and they got blown out at Florida State to

1849
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 34: surcus season. So one game is not a team's identity,

1850
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 34: and I think that this team.

1851
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 11: Knows how good they are.

1852
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 34: I also think that they know they have all the

1853
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 34: pieces to be great and it's time to take advantage

1854
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 34: of it.

1855
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 5: Now.

1856
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 4: You mentioned going forward, the path to Dallas is very simple.

1857
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 4: It's win out. You're not relying on what anyone else

1858
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 4: is doing. You're not relying on someone else having to lose.

1859
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 4: Is that correct? If they if this team wins out,

1860
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 4: they're going to play in Dallas for a Big Twelve title.

1861
01:35:56,200 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 34: Yes, because Texas Tech and b YU can't all have

1862
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 34: one loss at the end of the season and be

1863
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 34: tied with Cincinnati.

1864
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 6: So if if BYU.

1865
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 34: Beats Texas Tech, Texas Tech has two losses in the

1866
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 34: Big Twelve. If Texas Tech beats the YU and then

1867
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:15,879
Speaker 34: you see beats b YU, b YU has two losses,

1868
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 34: shout out to our intern Austin Bats, who kind of

1869
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:20,599
Speaker 34: broke that down for me. I'm good with words, I'm

1870
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 34: not good with the mats.

1871
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 6: And like all the all the formulas and stuff that

1872
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:24,639
Speaker 6: you have to figure out.

1873
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:26,600
Speaker 11: But Austin did a great job with that.

1874
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 25: So yeah, if they went out, they will only have

1875
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 25: one Big Twelve loss and they will be going to

1876
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 25: Dallas the rest of the season and the rest of

1877
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 25: the Big Twelve schedule for the entire conference will dictate

1878
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:40,880
Speaker 25: who they play.

1879
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 34: And it's freaking like Texas Tech or b YU is

1880
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 34: the most likely option.

1881
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 11: But I don't, you.

1882
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 34: Know, maybe you talk and get something done and get

1883
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 34: some help.

1884
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:52,759
Speaker 4: Since the last time we spoke, the college basketball season

1885
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 4: has gotten underway. U see starts it off with a

1886
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 4: nice win over Western Carolina. What did you learn, if

1887
01:36:58,160 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 4: anything about the team watching their first win.

1888
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 34: The biggest thing I learned was that Baba Miller is

1889
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:09,640
Speaker 34: a very very good basketball player. He's kind of a

1890
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 34: unicorn that I've never seen in a Bearcat's uniform. Someone

1891
01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:16,559
Speaker 34: kind of asked me, what's a cop or a former

1892
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 34: barcat that's similar to him.

1893
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:19,720
Speaker 11: The only thing I could think of.

1894
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 6: Is a way more mobile and way more.

1895
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 34: Dangerous offensive player like Victor Lockin is just way more mobile,

1896
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:31,719
Speaker 34: Like he has the guard handles and the guard ability

1897
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 34: to move at like six', Eleven and you saw that

1898
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 34: on that transition play where he catches the ball at

1899
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:41,760
Speaker 34: half court, dribbles once eurosteps and then like does a tomahawk,

1900
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:44,799
Speaker 34: dunk and it's kind of just you look, up holy,

1901
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:48,600
Speaker 34: Crap we've never seen that happen in this. Arena So

1902
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:53,840
Speaker 34: Baba miller is really, Good shanabia's really. Good Mustafa cham

1903
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 34: kind of on a little bit of an off, night

1904
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:58,720
Speaker 34: it felt, like but he was really really, good and

1905
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:00,720
Speaker 34: that three had a monster.

1906
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 6: Is going to be interesting to.

1907
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 34: ME i feel like it might be a little bit

1908
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:06,639
Speaker 34: of boom or bus from. Them you, know they could

1909
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:09,760
Speaker 34: combine for sixty plus, points so they could combine for

1910
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:10,960
Speaker 34: less than thirty.

1911
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 11: Points and THEN uc doesn't have a great.

1912
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 34: Night But i'm looking for consistency out of that prio

1913
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 34: throughout the entire non conference to kind of build on.

1914
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 11: What they can do In big twelve. Play and then

1915
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 11: another guy WHO i don't think is getting.

1916
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 34: Enough clout because he only scored two points With tyler,

1917
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 34: McKinley cincinnati kid miss his true freshman year with a

1918
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 34: bad knee, injury but he came, in got a couple of,

1919
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 34: steals got A i think he got a, block finished

1920
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,720
Speaker 34: with five, Rebounds tiger's second on the, team and they

1921
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 34: got out, rebounded so it wasn't a great rebounding night

1922
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:45,559
Speaker 34: for the, team but he was doing the dirty work

1923
01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 34: That cincinnati fans loves and appreciating those kind of, players

1924
01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 34: And i'm looking forward to seeing him continue to build on.

1925
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 4: That they've already lost a player that they were going

1926
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 4: to rely on in a big part of this year In.

1927
01:38:57,360 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 4: Haynes Sincere harris went, down certainly looked serious when he

1928
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 4: tried to shoot a free throw in the second. Half

1929
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:07,760
Speaker 4: how worrisome does his risk? Become because WHAT i saw

1930
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 4: at A Sincere harris as a, guy as A uc

1931
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 4: fan my whole life THAT i love About bearcat, basketball,

1932
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 4: intensity cares on the defensive side of the, ball takes

1933
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 4: pride on that side of the. Ball how important is

1934
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 4: it that they're able to Get Sincere harris back this,

1935
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 4: season obviously sooner rather than, later but his just importance

1936
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:27,639
Speaker 4: to the team as a, Whole.

1937
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 34: YEAH i think it's massive because he's one of the

1938
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 34: best on bold defenders in the entire. Country and that

1939
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:38,639
Speaker 34: was a hole that you had last year and that

1940
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:42,520
Speaker 34: you like went out specifically to fill With Sincere. Harris

1941
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:45,480
Speaker 34: now he comes in and all the talk of the summer.

1942
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 6: Is he's one of the most physical guys in the.

1943
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 11: Roster he's like competing his butt.

1944
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 34: Off he has that like punch of teammate kind of

1945
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 34: ends that they miss the last couple of.

1946
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 11: Years and now if.

1947
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 6: You're going to lose that for incident period of, time how.

1948
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:01,720
Speaker 11: Does that impact your?

1949
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 34: Roster how does that impact getting him back into the swing.

1950
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 11: Of things that you, know he's a very very important.

1951
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 34: Player, he's you, know one of the first guys off the,

1952
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 34: bench and now.

1953
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 6: You're leaning more on Day Da.

1954
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 34: Thomas he's going to have to play more minutes to

1955
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 34: give you some sort of defensive. Output BUT i think

1956
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 34: from a leadership, perspective it's, tough and just from a

1957
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 34: trying to keep your head.

1958
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:29,640
Speaker 6: Up, perspective it's tough because you Lose Jalen haynes and

1959
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 6: then what is, it.

1960
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 34: Three weeks two and a half weeks, later you lose

1961
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:36,639
Speaker 34: in one of your more important. Players so they really

1962
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 34: really need, him and if he's going to miss a

1963
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 34: couple of, months the outlook of the season may change

1964
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 34: a little.

1965
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:45,439
Speaker 4: Bit this, TEAM i feel, like has been hampered in

1966
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 4: years past of just not having someone at the end

1967
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:48,880
Speaker 4: of the shot clock that can go get a. Bucket

1968
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 4: the ball feels like it gets stuck at times or stagnant.

1969
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:54,400
Speaker 4: Possessions the, really the only ONE i remember is is

1970
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 4: day day before the, half and that was just because

1971
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:58,479
Speaker 4: he was trying to get the last shot. Off does this,

1972
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:01,160
Speaker 4: TEAM i know it's it's it's a one game sample.

1973
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 4: Size does this team possess more playmakers that can get

1974
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 4: the ball with five on the shot clock and go

1975
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 4: get their own.

1976
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:10,760
Speaker 34: BUCKET i think the first one you think of As,

1977
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:14,440
Speaker 34: SHAWNABAIAS i, mean that's his whole thing is go, isolation

1978
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:16,640
Speaker 34: beat your, guy create some, space and get a.

1979
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 6: Bucket and it is funny that to day day end.

1980
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 34: Of the first half shot that it feels like that's

1981
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 34: what they've, done like every half possession that they've had the,

1982
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 34: ball where it's just you isolate a guy and then

1983
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:32,880
Speaker 34: he shoots like a thirty foot jump, shot just hoping

1984
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 34: that it goes. In and you've never really seen anything

1985
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 34: deviate from. That so NOW i think when you ask that,

1986
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 34: question it's It's Shaunabias and beyond, THAT.

1987
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 6: I Think Kirk cries is a dangerous offensive.

1988
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 34: Player and then you also have to look At Boba

1989
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 34: miller as a guy who can kind of finish inside and.

1990
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 6: Finish outside as.

1991
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:55,599
Speaker 34: Well even though we haven't really seen the Shooting Baba,

1992
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 34: miller but he's shown that he can.

1993
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 6: Do three one hundred.

1994
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 11: And fourteen attempts last, year SO i.

1995
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 6: Think they have a. Few but the main guy THAT

1996
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:07,480
Speaker 6: i would.

1997
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 34: Look for in those situations Is Shana bayo because that's

1998
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 34: that's why he makes his money and that's why he's.

1999
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:14,880
Speaker 6: Going to make his money in THE nba if he

2000
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:16,640
Speaker 6: has the season that a lot of people think he.

2001
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 4: Can how much have you allowed yourself to dive Into

2002
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 4: Georgia state film For tomorrow?

2003
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 34: Night you, know shout out To Kyle. Newton he was

2004
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 34: a guy THAT i covered At indiana as a true.

2005
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 34: Freshman he got to watch a lot of his high school.

2006
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 34: Ball he didn't play in their last game when they

2007
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:39,479
Speaker 34: lost by twenty two points The Eastern. Michigan, yes, yeah

2008
01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 34: oh If silani The treasure of The midwest And, MICHIGAN

2009
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 34: i don't THINK i can Say i've broken down the

2010
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:48,600
Speaker 34: film to that.

2011
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 6: Extent so they're outside of.

2012
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 34: The top three hundred And Ken palm in both offense and,

2013
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 34: defense so this should be an easy win For. Cincinnati

2014
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 34: and then you get ready for or what should be

2015
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 34: a pretty Good dayton team At Fifth Third, arena Which

2016
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:06,719
Speaker 34: i'm so glad that game is At Fifth Third arena

2017
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 34: and not At Heritage Bank. Center And i'm glad it's

2018
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 34: a home at home Because i've covered a game At

2019
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 34: dayton and that arena Is austin in. Itself So i'm

2020
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 34: looking forward to team WHAT ut fans bring this, year

2021
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:19,680
Speaker 34: and then With dayton fans bring next.

2022
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:23,799
Speaker 4: Year Georgia state coach by Former xavier assistant Coach Jonas, Hayes,

2023
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 4: keegan do you know the nickname For Georgia? State you

2024
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 4: know what their mascot?

2025
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 11: Is is it the Panther?

2026
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 4: Man he's on At. Austin this guy is just he's,

2027
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:36,680
Speaker 4: prepared he's ready to Go. Austin did you want to

2028
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:39,639
Speaker 4: Ask keegan your basketball what the statement you made about

2029
01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 4: this team?

2030
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:42,960
Speaker 3: SCHEDULE i just think it's. Interesting there's no true road, Game.

2031
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 3: Kegan remember you're someone who deals in, Facts, kegan you're a.

2032
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 3: Journalist are there any true road games Until january? Sixth,

2033
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:58,040
Speaker 3: no there's no true.

2034
01:43:57,840 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 11: Road games Until january sixth.

2035
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:01,600
Speaker 31: This?

2036
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:05,640
Speaker 4: Year often that what's The nebraska? Game would you call

2037
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 4: that a road game after being there for.

2038
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:12,080
Speaker 10: Football, no that was the big, yes, yes yes, Game,

2039
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:13,480
Speaker 10: yes thank, you the biggest.

2040
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,720
Speaker 11: Road game that the program is going to have when they.

2041
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:20,240
Speaker 3: Retired that's how the Crowded georgian road game Than. Nebraska

2042
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 3: well that's NOT i, mean you se accepted a check

2043
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 3: and they went to a neutral site here we. Go

2044
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 3: so it was they accepted a check when they pulled

2045
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 3: out Of Ohio stadium in two thousand and nine as.

2046
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 3: Well they could have played that.

2047
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 11: Game talking about two thousand.

2048
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:41,680
Speaker 3: And, NINE i Know tony was going to bring it,

2049
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 3: up SO i had to get there before he. Did,

2050
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 3: man you beat me to. It well, done well.

2051
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:50,799
Speaker 4: Done, Uh, kegan start clearing that up the football season

2052
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:53,559
Speaker 4: going into a huge stretch in the basketball season getting.

2053
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:55,880
Speaker 4: Underway what's the easiest way to follow along with everything you?

2054
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 31: Got?

2055
01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 34: Yeah follow k nick is some forty two ON x

2056
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 34: and make sure you subscribe To Barcut. Journals support me

2057
01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 34: during this time of crossover season WHERE i try to stay.

2058
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:10,680
Speaker 3: Alive that's my, season flu season For. Keegan man get,

2059
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 3: well get, well.

2060
01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 5: Thank you.

2061
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 3: Sir there he, is That's Keegan, nickerson he said the ultimate.

2062
01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 3: Respect second favorite Nickoson austin's Favorite. Nickoson, yes especially after

2063
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 3: that appearance. Today, yeah flu season Grind, man just, grind

2064
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:31,720
Speaker 3: not afraid to speak facts about the. Schedule from One

2065
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 3: bearcat to. Another Bob, Manjing i've, Missed. Bob he stands

2066
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:39,400
Speaker 3: by to join us. Next from The university Of cincinnati

2067
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 3: And novacare ON espn fifteen Thirty Cincinnati sports.

2068
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 20: Station no one covers The bengals LIKE espn fifteen to,

2069
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 20: Thirty cincinnati's sports.

2070
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 2: Station welcome.

2071
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 4: Back we're rolling along here the third hour on The

2072
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 4: thursday edition Of Since he three to. Sixty we thank

2073
01:45:57,840 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 4: our friends At Penn. Station we thank you for. Listening

2074
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 4: let's get caught up on the injury. Front right, now

2075
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:04,479
Speaker 4: we get a chance to talk to our good Friend

2076
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 4: Bob manjean today from The university Of cincinnati And Nova.

2077
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:10,880
Speaker 4: Care he joins us right. Now, Hi, bob how are, You.

2078
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 14: Tony it's great down here in Barkat, land getting ready.

2079
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 5: For another game tomorrow.

2080
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:18,360
Speaker 14: Night you know we've got one under our, belts and

2081
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 14: you know it's time to get the second one.

2082
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:25,960
Speaker 4: Going sneaky sneaky good slate coming up for The Cincinnati.

2083
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,839
Speaker 4: Bearcats The Dayton flyers come in next week the following

2084
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 4: week And Heritage Bank Arena louisville the eleventh ranked team

2085
01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 4: in the. Country it's a big time right now FOR

2086
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:38,080
Speaker 4: u see basketball a good start to the. Season WHAT

2087
01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 4: i want to discuss with, You, bob as it pertains to,

2088
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:44,720
Speaker 4: basketball is as athletes at any level start to make

2089
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:48,440
Speaker 4: the switch high school or, college wherever you're playing basketball

2090
01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 4: as the season. Switch let's talk about the wrist because

2091
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 4: we saw this pop up on opening night With Sincere.

2092
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 4: Harris and we're not going to get into the details Of,

2093
01:46:57,520 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 4: sincere but just it had me thinking about well risk

2094
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 4: injuries because here's a sport, where let's face, it if

2095
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:06,400
Speaker 4: you're maybe in, football you could tape it, up you

2096
01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:08,360
Speaker 4: could play with some type of, cast some type of,

2097
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:10,680
Speaker 4: protection you really can't do that in basketball when you're

2098
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 4: being has to dribble or even. Shoot how delicate is

2099
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 4: the rist when it comes to the game of, basketball

2100
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 4: with how many bones and ligaments and so many different

2101
01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 4: variations in the.

2102
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 14: Rest, WELL i think you saw it even at a

2103
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 14: professional level last year where a certain fire had to

2104
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 14: have hand. Surgery that risks and hand injuries are really

2105
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 14: complicated when you are in a position basketball wise or

2106
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:42,920
Speaker 14: even football, wise to where you need to manipulate that

2107
01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:47,160
Speaker 14: hand in order to perform your specific.

2108
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 5: Duties with and given. Sport when you make the.

2109
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 14: Transition go back to the original, comment this time of,

2110
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 14: year the high school teams are, over they're transitioning to.

2111
01:47:56,560 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 14: Basketball it's a different cardiovastro, assistant it's a different, requite

2112
01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:06,600
Speaker 14: it's a little bit different areas in your body that

2113
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 14: you've got to get ready to go. Again so you,

2114
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 14: know your heart rate's different when you're playing basketball than

2115
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 14: it is. Football so you have to give yourself a

2116
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 14: couple of weeks of a commonization to get back from

2117
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 14: going from football to, basketball just like you would when

2118
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:23,639
Speaker 14: you go from football to like track and field in high.

2119
01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:26,800
Speaker 14: School once you're in that, sport once you make that,

2120
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 14: transition the injuries also.

2121
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:32,439
Speaker 5: Transition so for, example you, know when you go into,

2122
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 5: basketball your number one injury is an, ankle.

2123
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:38,560
Speaker 14: And kids need to be working on their, ankles you,

2124
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,719
Speaker 14: know inversion And dorset flex to get their ankle strong

2125
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:45,880
Speaker 14: to avoid. Injuries but two also the falls you take

2126
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:49,600
Speaker 14: when you're falling in, football you're falling on grass or,

2127
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:53,920
Speaker 14: turf which is a softer structure to land. On when

2128
01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 14: you think you can go diving out for a ball in,

2129
01:48:56,479 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 14: basketball you're landing on a hard. Court so now all

2130
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 14: of a sudden you land wrong with your hand in

2131
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 14: the wrong. Position it makes it more susceptible to a.

2132
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 14: Fracture so you, know when you have a kid fall

2133
01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 14: on an outstretched hand or what we like to call

2134
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 14: the hand in the back. Position you, know you can

2135
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:18,760
Speaker 14: have a, spring you can have a. Fracture you can

2136
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:21,559
Speaker 14: there are little cartilages in the wrist that you can.

2137
01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:24,599
Speaker 14: Tear so there's a lot of different things that can

2138
01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:28,120
Speaker 14: go wrong within that. Wrist and in order to really

2139
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 14: get you, know and again like you know the other,

2140
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 14: night you, know we get it actually right. Away just

2141
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:35,680
Speaker 14: make sure we don't have anything, real real bad from

2142
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 14: a fracture. Standpoint but in those hand and wrist injuries

2143
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:42,519
Speaker 14: in our, institution we get AN mri kind of the

2144
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:45,160
Speaker 14: next day in order to make sure are.

2145
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 5: We dealing with a. Ligament you can get a bone.

2146
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:50,000
Speaker 14: Bruise you, know you hear about bone bruises in the

2147
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 14: in the knee all the, time but you can get

2148
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 14: a bone bruise in your. Wrist the other thing is

2149
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 14: the ligaments in the wrist are really, small very very,

2150
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:04,880
Speaker 14: tiny and you, know the ligaments in the knee are real,

2151
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:08,640
Speaker 14: big so there's a big difference in the structures of the.

2152
01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:11,840
Speaker 14: Ligaments and again we're very. Fortunate the other, night you,

2153
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 14: know for the first, time and you, KNOW i don't

2154
01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:17,679
Speaker 14: know how many years we, have you, know Doctor donworth

2155
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 14: AND i looked up in the stands and and right

2156
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 14: there in front of us is Doctor Peter, stern probably

2157
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:25,800
Speaker 14: one of the most outstanding hand surgeons in the history

2158
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:28,720
Speaker 14: of hand, surgery who's one of our, boots was sitting right.

2159
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:30,920
Speaker 14: There and we actually pulled Doctor stern out on the

2160
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:33,599
Speaker 14: stands and asked him to take a look At sincere's,

2161
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 14: hand and then he saw him the next, morning and

2162
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 14: we're keeping our fingers crossed That sincere is going to

2163
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 14: make him very quick and healthy.

2164
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:44,680
Speaker 4: Recovery the, ligaments to, me is the most troublesome. Part

2165
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 4: is someone who went through a wrist injury in the

2166
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:50,320
Speaker 4: last couple of, years because it just it feels at

2167
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:52,560
Speaker 4: times like it's never going to. Heal it feels like

2168
01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 4: the process goes so slow and it's so delicate because

2169
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,560
Speaker 4: of the size of how much is actually going on

2170
01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:02,519
Speaker 4: in the wrist and into the. Hand the rehab process

2171
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 4: for those that go through wrist. Injuries we mentioned this

2172
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:07,800
Speaker 4: all the time with something that you, know is it

2173
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 4: a quick? Recovery is it a recovery you can come

2174
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:12,680
Speaker 4: back early and play while dealing with some of the.

2175
01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:14,720
Speaker 4: Pain how delicate do you have to be from a

2176
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:18,200
Speaker 4: recovery standpoint when you're dealing with ligaments and bones in that.

2177
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:21,840
Speaker 14: Wrist, well you've got so many bones and so many

2178
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 14: ligaments that to be really careful because if you try

2179
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 14: to push a hand or wrist injury too, quick those

2180
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 14: ligaments are not very, big as they said, before and

2181
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 14: they can easily get. Restressed so you've got to make

2182
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:38,720
Speaker 14: sure that you've got some sort of protective system on.

2183
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 14: It you, know just WATCH tv this weekend and you'll,

2184
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 14: see you, know the number of offensive linemen and defensive

2185
01:51:46,439 --> 01:51:49,840
Speaker 14: linemen who have either wrist splints on or who have

2186
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 14: outright clubs in their hands because they got to protect.

2187
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 5: It because you can't do that same thing to a

2188
01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:58,600
Speaker 5: wide receiver because you've got to catch the.

2189
01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 14: Ball so you, know again it goes back to the

2190
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:04,720
Speaker 14: specific positions that you're dealing, with and in, BASKETBALL i

2191
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:07,640
Speaker 14: can't put anything overly big on a wrist or a

2192
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 14: hand to protect it because they can't dribble or they

2193
01:52:11,479 --> 01:52:13,920
Speaker 14: can't get in the cocking position to shoot the. Ball

2194
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:16,640
Speaker 14: so we've got to make sure that they are recovered

2195
01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:21,400
Speaker 14: to the point where they can fully go without much

2196
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:25,760
Speaker 14: protective equipment on it because there's not a lot that

2197
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 14: we can. Use and the, ligaments LIKE i, said there's

2198
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:34,360
Speaker 14: so many different little ligaments going in different directions to

2199
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:39,000
Speaker 14: protect each of those, bones so that if you overflex

2200
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 14: your wrists or over extend your, wrist you can you,

2201
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:45,280
Speaker 14: know you can easily irritate it and.

2202
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 5: Set yourself, back and you don't want to do.

2203
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:54,240
Speaker 4: That is this early in a college basketball season or

2204
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:58,880
Speaker 4: high school basketball? Seasons how much precaution are you? Taking

2205
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 4: is is it any different than if it was the

2206
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 4: middle of the season or the end of the. Season

2207
01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:05,960
Speaker 4: are you are you viewing or approaching things differently as

2208
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 4: a trainer based on what time it is in the.

2209
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 4: Season are you handling every case the?

2210
01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 14: Same, WELL i mean you're asking a fifty three year

2211
01:53:14,479 --> 01:53:17,519
Speaker 14: old trainer years at the athletic Training i'm more than

2212
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 14: fifty three this time of, Year there's no Doubt i'm

2213
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 14: going to be more, protective you, know We.

2214
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:27,519
Speaker 5: I'm more worried ABOUT i want to Beat. LOUISVILLE i

2215
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:29,519
Speaker 5: want to do well in The Big Twelve.

2216
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:32,639
Speaker 14: Conference SO i, mean IF i have to hold somebody

2217
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:35,680
Speaker 14: at an extra point this time of, year you, know

2218
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:39,400
Speaker 14: you have that conversation With, wes And wes is very very.

2219
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:43,320
Speaker 14: Understanding he's a very much an, athlete first, player first,

2220
01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:46,000
Speaker 14: coach and he's going to do what's in their best

2221
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:48,719
Speaker 14: interest as well as the best interest of the team

2222
01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:51,720
Speaker 14: and put us in our best position to make their

2223
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 14: correct decision at any given.

2224
01:53:54,439 --> 01:53:56,320
Speaker 5: Time of, course you want to win every.

2225
01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 14: Game And i'm going to tell you these kids on

2226
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:02,599
Speaker 14: this team are very very competitive this. Year they all

2227
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 14: want to be out, there you, know whether you, know

2228
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:07,000
Speaker 14: whenever they get, hurt they're pushing me.

2229
01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:07,880
Speaker 5: To get them back out.

2230
01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:11,800
Speaker 14: There and, uh you, know my, ROLE i always teach,

2231
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:13,680
Speaker 14: people my role is to be the v O, r

2232
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:17,200
Speaker 14: the voice of, reason and that is, saying, hey maybe,

2233
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 14: let's you, know step back the, game let's make sure

2234
01:54:20,439 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 14: we're completely ready to, go and then and then play

2235
01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:25,120
Speaker 14: our next. Game and of course you've got some big

2236
01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 14: games coming up with you, Know Xavier Georgia, louisville you, Know,

2237
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:34,840
Speaker 14: dayton of, course and so we've we've we want to

2238
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:37,760
Speaker 14: make sure that we're in the right position at any given,

2239
01:54:37,880 --> 01:54:41,720
Speaker 14: time and that means that you're sitting there with your your,

2240
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:45,320
Speaker 14: doctors you're sitting there with your your coaching. Staff and,

2241
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 14: Again god bless, ME i got a great strength coach

2242
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 14: And Mike, rayfelt And mike AND i were in the

2243
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 14: weight room this morning work on one kid, out one

2244
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 14: on one because you, know that's that's the way we,

2245
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:58,800
Speaker 14: roll so that we want to make sure that the

2246
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:02,200
Speaker 14: kids are in the right position and feel the right

2247
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:04,920
Speaker 14: way before we you, know before we put.

2248
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 11: Them back on the.

2249
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:06,440
Speaker 5: Court health and safety.

2250
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:10,240
Speaker 4: First that Is Bob manjean from The university Of cincinnati

2251
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 4: And Novacare, bob BEFORE i let you. Go it's a

2252
01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 4: big weekend for your family as. Well we've spent time

2253
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 4: many times on this segment talking about The Matthew Manjen,

2254
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:24,680
Speaker 4: junior The One Shot, foundation your. GRANDSON i. Know This

2255
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:28,640
Speaker 4: saturday At Anderson pavilion is the Birthday. Bash, unfortunately the

2256
01:55:28,720 --> 01:55:31,760
Speaker 4: tickets are sold, out but if you're listening and you

2257
01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:34,320
Speaker 4: want to, support you can still purchase split the. Pot

2258
01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:37,800
Speaker 4: you can purchase bourbon raffle. Tickets you can just make

2259
01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 4: a donation on the website as. Well what is the

2260
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 4: easiest way for folks that that are listening to get

2261
01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:48,440
Speaker 4: more information or find a way to donate or be

2262
01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:50,400
Speaker 4: a part of This with so many good things you

2263
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:51,520
Speaker 4: guys are trying to build.

2264
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 33: And, DO.

2265
01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:56,720
Speaker 14: I think the biggest and easiest way is to get

2266
01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:59,839
Speaker 14: on to the you, Know Matthew Mannginge One Shot foundation

2267
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 14: and the websites got all kind of information on on

2268
01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 14: it as far as, events as far as opportunities with the,

2269
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 14: foundation and you, know the foundation is built around education

2270
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:19,320
Speaker 14: and providing emergency equipment to recreational athletic, facilities high schools

2271
01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:22,600
Speaker 14: and even uh you, Know matt And kim through some

2272
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 14: corporate donors led a big push last year and guys

2273
01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 14: Like mike hell making Less hill and the people at

2274
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 14: The Kenton County Police department to the point where we

2275
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:37,720
Speaker 14: now have A eds in Every Boon, County Kenton county

2276
01:56:37,720 --> 01:56:41,960
Speaker 14: AND i Believe Camble County Police cruiser because, again you,

2277
01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:44,440
Speaker 14: know what parents need to understand is they need to

2278
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 14: be actively involved either through our foundation.

2279
01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:51,600
Speaker 5: Or you, know through the school to say, hey.

2280
01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:55,560
Speaker 14: Don't just drop my kid off at football practice or basketball,

2281
01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:58,120
Speaker 14: practice but walk in and, say, hey what's your emergency action?

2282
01:56:58,320 --> 01:57:01,760
Speaker 14: Plan where's YOUR? Aed how fast can you get AN aed?

2283
01:57:01,960 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 14: There because again it goes back to you, know our

2284
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 14: mission started because my grandson did not have AN aed

2285
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:13,440
Speaker 14: applied for twelve minutes instead of the three minutes it's.

2286
01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 14: Necessary and you, know there's a reason here at The

2287
01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:19,920
Speaker 14: university Of cincinnati And Aaron himler is outstanding with you,

2288
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:23,840
Speaker 14: know directing our emergency medical support. Services from where the point,

2289
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:27,320
Speaker 14: NOW i think we have like seventeen. AEDs you can't

2290
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:31,200
Speaker 14: walk more than probably one hundred feet without running into AN.

2291
01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:34,800
Speaker 14: Aed here in athletics because of the knowledge that we've

2292
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:38,080
Speaker 14: gained over the last ten years on the importance of emergency,

2293
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:43,560
Speaker 14: preparation parents need to understand that athletics is not a babysitting.

2294
01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:47,920
Speaker 14: Service athletics is serious and has serious side effects and

2295
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 14: parents need to take it. Seriously so visit The matthew

2296
01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:57,600
Speaker 14: manteen One Shot, foundation and again there's all kinds of

2297
01:57:57,640 --> 01:58:02,720
Speaker 14: information for parents for. Athletes they do job with educating

2298
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:06,840
Speaker 14: and they do an outstanding job with providing emergency. Equipment you,

2299
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 14: know through a variety of companies around.

2300
01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:12,280
Speaker 4: Town Bob, Manjean university Of, cincinnati over. Care, bob you're

2301
01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 4: the best. Man thank you so much for your, time

2302
01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:15,120
Speaker 4: and have a good one tomorrow.

2303
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:19,360
Speaker 14: Night i'm excited that we're going to get ready to

2304
01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:21,040
Speaker 14: go and let me know when you're coming down The dayton.

2305
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:25,520
Speaker 14: Game i'm assuming i'll be. There, Okay, austin are you ever.

2306
01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:27,960
Speaker 5: Going to show? Up i'm waiting to see to show

2307
01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:30,000
Speaker 5: up and sit behind me in a basketball.

2308
01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:32,720
Speaker 3: Game i've never been, Invited, bob this is your. Invite

2309
01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:36,720
Speaker 3: you are always. ALWAYS i, KNOW i know you're A reds.

2310
01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:38,480
Speaker 5: Guy scream, EASY i get it.

2311
01:58:38,520 --> 01:58:44,400
Speaker 3: Off was there last year because he's.

2312
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:44,840
Speaker 28: An M K u?

2313
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 5: Guy oh here we. Go now you're an A k

2314
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 5: versus The RED.

2315
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:54,880
Speaker 11: YEP i.

2316
01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:58,360
Speaker 5: Agree i'm going to quit following you ON. X, okay never,

2317
01:58:58,480 --> 01:58:58,960
Speaker 5: mind thank, You.

2318
01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:01,560
Speaker 3: Bob have a great.

2319
01:59:01,600 --> 01:59:01,920
Speaker 5: Weekend.

2320
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:03,360
Speaker 3: Guy that is A bob Man.

2321
01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:05,840
Speaker 4: Jean if you enjoy staying active but minor aches and

2322
01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:08,120
Speaker 4: pains keep getting in the, way use the same physical

2323
01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:11,320
Speaker 4: therapist as The. Bearcats Novacare rehabilitation has been the exclusive

2324
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:14,520
Speaker 4: physical therapy provider for The bearcats for over twenty. Years

2325
01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:17,800
Speaker 4: novacare has a location on UC's campus within The Lender,

2326
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:20,200
Speaker 4: center where you two can be treated like A. Bearcat

2327
01:59:20,280 --> 01:59:23,040
Speaker 4: visit novacare dot com today to learn. More plenty more

2328
01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:24,080
Speaker 4: still to go is at The hall Of.

2329
01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 3: Fame bob was nowhere to be. Found, Wow, arena how about?

2330
01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:29,560
Speaker 11: That how about?

2331
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:30,880
Speaker 17: That more to?

2332
01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:34,200
Speaker 4: Go next AT espn fifteen Thirty Cincinnati Sports.

2333
01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:40,760
Speaker 3: Station retirement should be stress free At Journey advisory welcome

2334
01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:44,040
Speaker 3: back since he three. Sixty, hey thanks to our friends

2335
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:47,400
Speaker 3: At Penn, station and thank you for listening ON espn

2336
01:59:47,480 --> 01:59:49,200
Speaker 3: fifteen Thirty Cincinnati Sports.

2337
01:59:49,440 --> 01:59:53,520
Speaker 4: Station what do you got, Here? Austin we Got Chad

2338
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:56,320
Speaker 4: brenda coming in just a few. Moments what do yeah?

2339
01:59:56,880 --> 01:59:57,640
Speaker 4: Listen hand.

2340
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:01,840
Speaker 3: UP i made a. MISTAKE i screwed something up in

2341
02:00:02,040 --> 02:00:08,720
Speaker 3: my banter yep with you. Yep regarding The bearcats, yep

2342
02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:13,720
Speaker 3: and them playing a true road game. Yep how COULD

2343
02:00:13,720 --> 02:00:18,040
Speaker 3: i forget about The crosstown shootout which is being played

2344
02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:21,920
Speaker 3: On december the fifth at The Centas. Center that's correct

2345
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:26,360
Speaker 3: on campus against an arch. Rival that's a true road.

2346
02:00:26,400 --> 02:00:27,080
Speaker 11: Game thank?

2347
02:00:27,120 --> 02:00:28,360
Speaker 3: You so that was on?

2348
02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:29,440
Speaker 31: ME i.

2349
02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:32,960
Speaker 3: WAS i originally started the point of not Leaving, cincinnati

2350
02:00:33,560 --> 02:00:35,600
Speaker 3: and then it got to not playing on another, campus

2351
02:00:35,680 --> 02:00:39,480
Speaker 3: AND i kind of glossed right over The Centas center

2352
02:00:39,520 --> 02:00:42,200
Speaker 3: and the cross town Shootout december. Fifth that's on. Me

2353
02:00:43,160 --> 02:00:45,240
Speaker 3: it is crazy though that you still play one true

2354
02:00:45,320 --> 02:00:49,120
Speaker 3: road game between now And january. Fifth but fair enough

2355
02:00:49,320 --> 02:00:52,400
Speaker 3: you Said december, Fifth, Yeah december sixth would be a

2356
02:00:52,440 --> 02:00:54,720
Speaker 3: big twelve championship. Game i'd be a heck of a

2357
02:00:54,760 --> 02:00:57,360
Speaker 3: one to two punch. There, okay that'd be a nice couple. Days,

2358
02:00:57,800 --> 02:01:04,160
Speaker 3: secondly congratulations are in order to A Versales tiger oh

2359
02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:12,160
Speaker 3: A dayton flyer, man and the new manager of The

2360
02:01:12,240 --> 02:01:15,520
Speaker 3: San Diego. Padres in a shock heard across the baseball

2361
02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:20,440
Speaker 3: world earlier, Today Craig's Stammen wow hired as The padres new.

2362
02:01:20,480 --> 02:01:24,720
Speaker 3: Manager you might, Remember padres talked With Albert poolholz for

2363
02:01:24,880 --> 02:01:28,440
Speaker 3: nine and a half hours last week about potentially being

2364
02:01:28,520 --> 02:01:32,440
Speaker 3: their new, skipper but instead they pivot To craig's stammin

2365
02:01:33,680 --> 02:01:36,280
Speaker 3: who just pitched a couple of years ago for The,

2366
02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:40,000
Speaker 3: padres had a long major league, career and, Uh ohio

2367
02:01:40,200 --> 02:01:44,760
Speaker 3: guy up from my neck of the. Woods so Congratulations Craig.

2368
02:01:44,880 --> 02:01:49,680
Speaker 3: Stammon congrats To. Craig. Craig Chad brenda will join us.

2369
02:01:49,720 --> 02:01:51,480
Speaker 3: NEXT i used to work with a guy Named Craig

2370
02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:55,160
Speaker 3: craig AND i called Him craiger one. Day didn't like.

2371
02:01:55,200 --> 02:02:00,400
Speaker 3: IT i almost lost my. Life he was irate at,

2372
02:02:00,520 --> 02:02:04,520
Speaker 3: me really for calling Him. Craiger, wow, YEAH i. DIDN'T

2373
02:02:04,520 --> 02:02:05,840
Speaker 3: i don't even think that would be that. BAD i

2374
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:07,880
Speaker 3: didn't think so, Either BUT i learned my. Lesson but,

2375
02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:13,800
Speaker 3: well if you're, now, Oh craiger's listening right? Now, chance no.

2376
02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:17,520
Speaker 3: Chance Chad brundle isn't for guts like everybody, else will

2377
02:02:17,600 --> 02:02:20,839
Speaker 3: join us next ON espn fifteen, Thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

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02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:25,920
Speaker 2: Until cincinnati three Sixty Quick hits ON espn fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Thirty was looking For. Mo mo's not.

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Speaker 8: Here Chad brundle's, Here, boy if they could only you're

2381
02:02:32,360 --> 02:02:34,800
Speaker 8: what we talk about in the. Break that's that's really.

2382
02:02:34,960 --> 02:02:37,120
Speaker 8: Loud that's. Loud we turn it down just a. Little,

2383
02:02:37,200 --> 02:02:39,280
Speaker 8: yeah that's. Better it's good to see, You. Chad good

2384
02:02:39,280 --> 02:02:39,560
Speaker 8: to see you.

2385
02:02:39,640 --> 02:02:41,520
Speaker 3: Too to how are? You because the bye week treating?

2386
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:46,120
Speaker 8: You it's basketball so like you, know it'd be nice

2387
02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:47,880
Speaker 8: to get a bye week without two basketball.

2388
02:02:47,920 --> 02:02:50,160
Speaker 3: Games but you, know it's it's. Good it's. GOOD a

2389
02:02:50,160 --> 02:02:52,520
Speaker 3: lot of content At bearcat. Journal no bye weeks For

2390
02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:54,600
Speaker 3: chad Brand there are no bye. Weeks we just Had.

2391
02:02:54,680 --> 02:02:57,600
Speaker 4: Keegan keegan's going flu game right, now still joining us

2392
02:02:57,640 --> 02:02:59,520
Speaker 4: despite being a little under the. Weather, YEAH i had

2393
02:02:59,560 --> 02:03:01,680
Speaker 4: had a little bit of a scouttery report For Georgia. State,

2394
02:03:01,960 --> 02:03:05,520
Speaker 4: yeah he appreciated they're. BAD i looked at their score

2395
02:03:05,560 --> 02:03:10,120
Speaker 4: Against Eastern. Michigan, yeah they're pretty. Bad what do you

2396
02:03:10,200 --> 02:03:13,120
Speaker 4: get out of a game like? That team's really? Bad

2397
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:16,160
Speaker 4: it's like playing The Northwestern state or. Whoever you guys didn't.

2398
02:03:17,120 --> 02:03:20,880
Speaker 3: Start a serious. Question what do you have coming up

2399
02:03:20,920 --> 02:03:21,440
Speaker 3: on the program?

2400
02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:22,040
Speaker 11: Today?

2401
02:03:22,160 --> 02:03:26,360
Speaker 8: Chad maybe maybe you'll help me out a little bit.

2402
02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:30,280
Speaker 8: Here what's the fix for this? Defense? Like who in

2403
02:03:30,360 --> 02:03:34,040
Speaker 8: the room The? Bengals who in the room is going

2404
02:03:34,120 --> 02:03:38,680
Speaker 8: to stand? Up here's my fear with The. Bengals who, says, hey,

2405
02:03:38,760 --> 02:03:43,200
Speaker 8: guys this. Stinks we have to start, Over like is?

2406
02:03:43,240 --> 02:03:46,960
Speaker 8: There because all we keep hearing is it's, Fine we've

2407
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:49,560
Speaker 8: got the right guys in. House we're gonna get it

2408
02:03:49,680 --> 02:03:53,880
Speaker 8: fixed at some point in. Time who's the adult in

2409
02:03:53,960 --> 02:03:57,600
Speaker 8: the room that stands up and, says, no this stinks

2410
02:03:58,280 --> 02:04:01,320
Speaker 8: BECAUSE i think they did the right thing tony.

2411
02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:03,160
Speaker 3: Three years.

2412
02:04:03,200 --> 02:04:05,360
Speaker 8: Ago for, you whatever it. Is they looked and, said all,

2413
02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:06,960
Speaker 8: right we're gonna have to Pay. Joe we're gonna have

2414
02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:09,400
Speaker 8: to Pay. JAMAR i don't think they wanted to Pay.

2415
02:04:09,480 --> 02:04:12,240
Speaker 8: TEA i Think Joe maadham Paid. Tea, Sure but they,

2416
02:04:12,280 --> 02:04:14,760
Speaker 8: said all, right we're gonna have to go youth youth

2417
02:04:14,840 --> 02:04:19,320
Speaker 8: movement on. DEFENSE i have to go. Young, first, second

2418
02:04:19,360 --> 02:04:21,520
Speaker 8: third round picks for the last three years have almost

2419
02:04:21,640 --> 02:04:26,240
Speaker 8: all been. Defense they have, done by the book what

2420
02:04:26,440 --> 02:04:29,200
Speaker 8: you're supposed to do in this situation to prepare for

2421
02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:32,800
Speaker 8: a quarterback coming off a rookie. Contract, right, Agreed but

2422
02:04:32,880 --> 02:04:36,960
Speaker 8: they got every pick. Wrong what what of those guys

2423
02:04:37,000 --> 02:04:39,520
Speaker 8: that WERE Dj turner was is not in this? Conversation,

2424
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:42,960
Speaker 8: yeah because he's he wasn't taken in the first three

2425
02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:43,960
Speaker 8: rounds of any of those.

2426
02:04:44,040 --> 02:04:47,160
Speaker 3: Drafts who have they gotten? Right, well that's the issue

2427
02:04:47,160 --> 02:04:49,320
Speaker 3: With austin. Not we were asked today will this team

2428
02:04:49,640 --> 02:04:51,560
Speaker 3: Under Zach taylor get back to The Super? Bowl AND

2429
02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:54,839
Speaker 3: i can't answer the question because if the roster construction

2430
02:04:55,040 --> 02:04:56,480
Speaker 3: is still being decided the way it's.

2431
02:04:56,520 --> 02:04:59,800
Speaker 4: Been outside OF i can answer the. Question the answer is.

2432
02:04:59,840 --> 02:05:01,760
Speaker 4: No outside of When Joe burrow was on a rookie.

2433
02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:05,000
Speaker 4: Deal how have they assembled the roster successfully since he

2434
02:05:05,040 --> 02:05:08,840
Speaker 4: signed his? Deal they the plan was, Right but who's

2435
02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:10,600
Speaker 4: going to be the adult that stands up in the

2436
02:05:10,680 --> 02:05:13,640
Speaker 4: room and, says, look the plan was. Right but that

2437
02:05:13,800 --> 02:05:17,160
Speaker 4: doesn't mean we got it, right BECAUSE i think they're

2438
02:05:17,240 --> 02:05:18,720
Speaker 4: looking at it and, saying.

2439
02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:20,040
Speaker 6: We.

2440
02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:22,640
Speaker 8: Did we buy the, book we did what we were

2441
02:05:22,640 --> 02:05:24,880
Speaker 8: supposed to, do and we're going to stick by. That,

2442
02:05:25,480 --> 02:05:27,680
Speaker 8: no somebody has to, say, look the players we got.

2443
02:05:27,800 --> 02:05:33,320
Speaker 8: Stink they can't draft, defense and which is what The

2444
02:05:33,400 --> 02:05:36,320
Speaker 8: cowboys have been struggling. Through and so The cowboys, said

2445
02:05:36,360 --> 02:05:39,360
Speaker 8: screw drafting defensive. Players we'll go Get Quinn. Williams go

2446
02:05:39,480 --> 02:05:41,920
Speaker 8: look at The Super, bowl in THE Afc, championship, defense

2447
02:05:42,440 --> 02:05:48,640
Speaker 8: free agents everywhere everywhere throughout that. Defense they didn't do

2448
02:05:48,720 --> 02:05:51,800
Speaker 8: it by. Drafting they did it in the open. Market

2449
02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:57,960
Speaker 8: so what, because like you just, said what's the path

2450
02:05:58,040 --> 02:06:02,520
Speaker 8: to getting back to, success it's blowing it up and

2451
02:06:02,680 --> 02:06:05,960
Speaker 8: starting over because what they did didn't. Work but now

2452
02:06:06,080 --> 02:06:07,640
Speaker 8: you can't really blow it up and go into the

2453
02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:10,160
Speaker 8: free agent, pool, correct because you don't have the money

2454
02:06:10,240 --> 02:06:13,600
Speaker 8: to do. That so what's the answer to fix the?

2455
02:06:13,640 --> 02:06:16,120
Speaker 8: DEFENSE i don't. KNOW i don't know that there is

2456
02:06:16,280 --> 02:06:21,120
Speaker 8: one other than trying this. Again tackling, better, right just

2457
02:06:21,200 --> 02:06:23,440
Speaker 8: got to tackle. Better shouldn't you be able to tackle

2458
02:06:23,480 --> 02:06:24,160
Speaker 8: by the time you get?

2459
02:06:24,200 --> 02:06:28,320
Speaker 4: Here, yes you are if you are identifying the talent,

2460
02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:31,520
Speaker 4: correctly and development plays a role in. It but you're

2461
02:06:31,560 --> 02:06:34,080
Speaker 4: identifying players that can play well in, space that move well,

2462
02:06:34,160 --> 02:06:37,360
Speaker 4: latterly that fly a. LIKE i had the conversation this

2463
02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:39,280
Speaker 4: week AND i tied it back To Jack soyer Ot Ohio.

2464
02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:41,520
Speaker 4: State AND i know he didn't get drafted to the fourth,

2465
02:06:41,560 --> 02:06:43,200
Speaker 4: round but every TIME i turned the tape, On Jack

2466
02:06:43,240 --> 02:06:45,560
Speaker 4: sawyer made place. Right but then you get into the draft.

2467
02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:48,200
Speaker 3: Proce, yeah you get into the draft process and as,

2468
02:06:48,200 --> 02:06:50,960
Speaker 3: well not big, enough not fast, enough but they made

2469
02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:51,920
Speaker 3: place all.

2470
02:06:51,960 --> 02:06:53,760
Speaker 8: Over the guys that can play know that we're so

2471
02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:59,000
Speaker 8: stuck on traits that they're not watching the. TAPE i

2472
02:06:59,080 --> 02:07:01,640
Speaker 8: don't feel like they have anybody that's married to the. Tape,

2473
02:07:02,280 --> 02:07:06,320
Speaker 8: like ask those guys that you, See Zach, Grant Jack,

2474
02:07:06,360 --> 02:07:10,720
Speaker 8: griffin what do they thrive on the? Tape it's always

2475
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:14,520
Speaker 8: about the. Tape who's watching the tape in that? Building

2476
02:07:15,880 --> 02:07:19,160
Speaker 8: again to say, no don't go after the guy that

2477
02:07:19,520 --> 02:07:22,440
Speaker 8: looks great in the airport go after the guy that

2478
02:07:22,560 --> 02:07:25,920
Speaker 8: the tape says we need to. Get they don't have

2479
02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:29,280
Speaker 8: anybody on that. Defense that's a tape guy from when

2480
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:30,480
Speaker 8: they were in, college from when they were.

2481
02:07:30,560 --> 02:07:34,280
Speaker 3: Drafted if, anybody what do you make of the non

2482
02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:37,360
Speaker 3: conference schedule this year for The Cincinnati? Bearcats it's? Fine

2483
02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:41,360
Speaker 3: how do you view? It it's? Fine in five, games it's?

2484
02:07:41,440 --> 02:07:43,360
Speaker 3: Fine how do you view? It for people that want

2485
02:07:43,400 --> 02:07:46,080
Speaker 3: to criticize maybe the non conference schedule and where the

2486
02:07:46,160 --> 02:07:47,640
Speaker 3: games will be, played or opponents THAT.

2487
02:07:47,720 --> 02:07:49,200
Speaker 8: I would ask them to put their job on the,

2488
02:07:49,280 --> 02:07:51,640
Speaker 8: line knowing that they have eighteen games in The Big

2489
02:07:51,720 --> 02:07:54,840
Speaker 8: twelve and to try to schedule ridiculously in the non

2490
02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:56,200
Speaker 8: conference at how would you respond to?

2491
02:07:56,240 --> 02:07:56,280
Speaker 6: That?

2492
02:07:56,880 --> 02:08:00,920
Speaker 8: HYPOTHETICALLY i don't have a Respond it's great to sit

2493
02:08:01,000 --> 02:08:02,320
Speaker 8: in these chairs and think about.

2494
02:08:02,360 --> 02:08:04,520
Speaker 3: It, austin who is a what it's all. About he's

2495
02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:08,000
Speaker 3: a diehard buck guy And i've Criticized buckeye scheduling for

2496
02:08:08,040 --> 02:08:10,680
Speaker 3: a long. Time but is the highest state football played

2497
02:08:10,680 --> 02:08:14,760
Speaker 3: anybody this? Year, No austin. Openly austin shared his thoughts

2498
02:08:14,800 --> 02:08:21,360
Speaker 3: today on UC's non conference Schedule Dayton, Xavier, Louisville, Georgia

2499
02:08:21,640 --> 02:08:24,400
Speaker 3: clemson wasn't about, opponents it was about the. Location So

2500
02:08:24,520 --> 02:08:25,080
Speaker 3: tony left that.

2501
02:08:25,160 --> 02:08:28,000
Speaker 4: Part he's not counting The georgia And clemson game as

2502
02:08:28,080 --> 02:08:34,160
Speaker 4: road Games. Austin austin's essentially saying they don't play a

2503
02:08:34,200 --> 02:08:36,960
Speaker 4: true road game out Of cincinnati Until january.

2504
02:08:37,080 --> 02:08:41,080
Speaker 3: Sixth, well outside Of, xavier yeah they're Playing. Sentas yeah

2505
02:08:41,080 --> 02:08:44,520
Speaker 3: they're In cincinnati. Still, oh but that's on campus hostile.

2506
02:08:44,640 --> 02:08:47,960
Speaker 3: Environment those. Are one of those is THE Nba arena

2507
02:08:48,240 --> 02:08:52,040
Speaker 3: in Downtown. Atlanta the other ones In, Greenville South, Carolina, Atlanta,

2508
02:08:52,440 --> 02:08:56,360
Speaker 3: Atlanta georgia is At. Georgia that's In. Georgia, yeah couple

2509
02:08:56,440 --> 02:09:01,200
Speaker 3: hours away From, Athens clemsons and where it's In South, Carolina, greenville.

2510
02:09:01,600 --> 02:09:03,960
Speaker 8: Those places are like thirty minutes from it in. State

2511
02:09:04,120 --> 02:09:06,400
Speaker 8: BUT i guess not. TRUE i just wanted to clear

2512
02:09:06,440 --> 02:09:07,840
Speaker 8: that up because it's.

2513
02:09:07,720 --> 02:09:08,240
Speaker 2: The big thing.

2514
02:09:08,440 --> 02:09:11,560
Speaker 3: IS i didn't come into today Thinking i'm going to criticize.

2515
02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:13,280
Speaker 3: THIS i was looking at here's the, thing AND i was, like,

2516
02:09:13,320 --> 02:09:17,400
Speaker 3: wow they really only play on another campus once Before january.

2517
02:09:17,440 --> 02:09:21,839
Speaker 4: Sin, this to, ME i think should require A Bearcat

2518
02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:26,720
Speaker 4: journal message. Board probably that probably think you want me

2519
02:09:26,760 --> 02:09:28,000
Speaker 4: to start a New Austin elmore.

2520
02:09:28,080 --> 02:09:30,520
Speaker 3: THREAD i think it's time to. Revisit, okay.

2521
02:09:32,120 --> 02:09:34,360
Speaker 8: Here's the big thing in college basketball right now with

2522
02:09:34,440 --> 02:09:37,240
Speaker 8: these neutral site. Games, okay since he's got three of.

2523
02:09:37,320 --> 02:09:43,400
Speaker 8: Them an outside company manages neutral site. Games the outside

2524
02:09:43,480 --> 02:09:48,320
Speaker 8: company can then pay AN il directly to the.

2525
02:09:48,360 --> 02:09:52,720
Speaker 3: Players makes a. Difference so more and more places See

2526
02:09:52,800 --> 02:09:56,080
Speaker 3: so it's for the, Players, austin that's good the. PLAYERS

2527
02:09:56,160 --> 02:09:58,360
Speaker 3: i was looking for an, understanding all. Right this is

2528
02:09:58,400 --> 02:10:00,720
Speaker 3: why we Have Chad chads an expert on. It so

2529
02:10:00,920 --> 02:10:02,440
Speaker 3: that's where a lot you're seeing a lot of it

2530
02:10:02,520 --> 02:10:04,920
Speaker 3: in college. Basketball you're not seeing home and homes as much.

2531
02:10:04,920 --> 02:10:06,520
Speaker 3: Anymore you're seeing these close.

2532
02:10:06,640 --> 02:10:09,960
Speaker 8: Neutrals, yeah where you know you have a company come

2533
02:10:10,040 --> 02:10:14,040
Speaker 8: in manage the, event and then there's AN nil element

2534
02:10:14,600 --> 02:10:17,520
Speaker 8: that the proceeds can go directly to the players without

2535
02:10:17,640 --> 02:10:19,480
Speaker 8: having to go through the.

2536
02:10:19,600 --> 02:10:24,680
Speaker 3: System when is The Bearcat journal Dot Com? Invitational probably.

2537
02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:27,640
Speaker 3: Never that's that's a lot of, work, bro that's a

2538
02:10:27,720 --> 02:10:30,440
Speaker 3: lot of. Work you you're on the air till six,

2539
02:10:30,520 --> 02:10:35,760
Speaker 3: TODAY i am the free. Agent free agency starts at

2540
02:10:35,800 --> 02:10:37,520
Speaker 3: five In Major League? Baseball do you think you'll be

2541
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:42,440
Speaker 3: on the air to Announce Kyle schwarber To Cincinnati, nokay.

2542
02:10:41,160 --> 02:10:44,040
Speaker 8: We're gonna get to the red come around seven o'clock price. Seven,

2543
02:10:44,160 --> 02:10:46,600
Speaker 8: yeah we're gonna get to The reds. TOO i have

2544
02:10:46,760 --> 02:10:52,040
Speaker 8: A i've heard all the reactions since. Yesterday the payroll

2545
02:10:52,120 --> 02:10:54,240
Speaker 8: is going to stay about the. Same the breakdown of

2546
02:10:54,360 --> 02:10:58,760
Speaker 8: how that all, works here's my. Question, okay three years

2547
02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:04,600
Speaker 8: ago you went, young, right you knew three years ago

2548
02:11:06,240 --> 02:11:10,600
Speaker 8: that arbitration was, coming, yes that that train was on the.

2549
02:11:10,720 --> 02:11:15,360
Speaker 8: Tracks how have you not prepared in three years for

2550
02:11:15,600 --> 02:11:19,440
Speaker 8: your payroll to go up this year and next? Year

2551
02:11:19,880 --> 02:11:23,120
Speaker 8: you've only got a Limited what do we know about

2552
02:11:23,160 --> 02:11:26,040
Speaker 8: the rets we know about The reds that these guys

2553
02:11:26,040 --> 02:11:28,080
Speaker 8: are all going to get to five, years and then

2554
02:11:28,120 --> 02:11:31,040
Speaker 8: as they go into their six year their trade bait.

2555
02:11:31,280 --> 02:11:34,440
Speaker 3: Yep if they're, good The reds.

2556
02:11:34,240 --> 02:11:37,160
Speaker 8: Aren't they'll maybe pick, one they'll re sign, one maybe,

2557
02:11:37,240 --> 02:11:41,440
Speaker 8: two but the other, Guys, so, yeah six, years you're about.

2558
02:11:41,520 --> 02:11:47,080
Speaker 8: Done so twenty twenty three the window opened and we

2559
02:11:47,200 --> 02:11:50,840
Speaker 8: knew the clock was ticking on this. Group how do

2560
02:11:50,960 --> 02:11:54,600
Speaker 8: you get to years three and four with this group

2561
02:11:55,680 --> 02:11:59,560
Speaker 8: and not be in a position to up your payroll

2562
02:12:00,160 --> 02:12:06,520
Speaker 8: to be able to accommodate twenty twenty five? MILLION i

2563
02:12:06,560 --> 02:12:10,280
Speaker 8: think everybody is. Anticipating when you look at the arbitration, numbers.

2564
02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:11,680
Speaker 2: How are you not?

2565
02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:13,080
Speaker 3: Ready how are you not?

2566
02:12:13,240 --> 02:12:16,480
Speaker 8: Prepared and saying that the payroll is going to stay the,

2567
02:12:16,560 --> 02:12:20,400
Speaker 8: same stay the, same is telling your fan base.

2568
02:12:21,760 --> 02:12:25,320
Speaker 3: Exactly what it knew to be true this past. Season

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Speaker 3: is exactly the knock that it's always on the fan.

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Speaker 3: Base they're just not gonna pay five.

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Speaker 8: Hundred want we want to, Be we want to hang

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Speaker 8: around and then maybe we get hot In August, september

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Speaker 8: maybe we finished. Strong there is no desire to be

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Speaker 8: fifteen games over five hundred heading Into.

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Speaker 3: September.

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Speaker 13: None.

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Speaker 8: None and that's what they told us again. Yesterday you

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Speaker 8: told your customer base we're. Good, yeah this is what

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Speaker 8: it's gonna. Be this is what it's gonna.

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Speaker 6: Be deal with.

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Speaker 8: It we're gonna lose eight. Guys eight guys that contributed

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Speaker 8: are going to walk out the. Door all that money

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Speaker 8: is gonna be eaten. Up, yep by the arbitration. Numbers

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Speaker 8: you're gonna have to patch it. Again it's like the

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Speaker 8: cartoon where your leak's coming out of the. Dam One

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Speaker 8: if is patch one and then another one comes, Open

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Speaker 8: you're just gonna try to do that with a. Roster

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Speaker 8: one of these, Days i'm gonna bring up the word

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Speaker 8: for The reds And. Bengals that is the main reason

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Speaker 8: on why they are where they. Are But i'm gonna

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Speaker 8: get in trouble when i do, it SO i don't

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Speaker 8: want to stop doing. Radio your last day that won't be.

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Speaker 8: Today it could be the last day for.

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