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Speaker 1: Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm Lance, but callisterre
Speaker 1: glad to have you here. Let's get into it. I
Speaker 1: cannot wait. I have been privy to see the trailer
Speaker 1: to this. I cannot wait to see the finished product.
Speaker 1: I get chills when I talk about it, and I've
Speaker 1: got two guests in studio to talk even more about it.
Speaker 1: The documentary is the cradle of coaches. I have in
Speaker 1: the studio Scott Thompson and Jesse Herron of Resolved, who
Speaker 1: are working behind the scenes to put all this together
Speaker 1: tireless hours, and they've joined me in studio and it
Speaker 1: is great to see both of you. As you can tell,
Speaker 1: I'm really fired up about this project. I just find
Speaker 1: it fascinating. And Scott, let me start with you. And
Speaker 1: I told you when we sat down to me. One
Speaker 1: of the moments when Patnerdoozy is quoted I believe in
Speaker 1: the trailer is saying, it's pretty incredible that a small
Speaker 1: school in the middle of nowhere changed football. That's a
Speaker 1: really powerful quote that opens up the door to all days,
Speaker 1: doesn't it.
Speaker 2: And I tell these guys when I'm interviewing. We've interviewed
Speaker 2: over ninety people, and I tell them it's all about expectations.
Speaker 2: I think when you know, you talk to a random
Speaker 2: person who doesn't know about Miami or the Cradle of
Speaker 2: Coaches and you start to mention all the coaches, I
Speaker 2: think it's expectations that the thing, Oh, that's got to
Speaker 2: be UCLA, Texas, Penn State, these massive schoo Ohio State. No,
Speaker 2: it's this school that's up in the cornfields, up up
Speaker 2: in Oxford, and it is produced it literally, I mean
Speaker 2: when you talk about Paul Brown, the godfather of modern
Speaker 2: day football, but I mean Paul's just the tip. I
Speaker 2: mean when you start to look at everybody that's come
Speaker 2: from that, it's it's actually remarkable, and it's it's florient
Speaker 2: and you should see people's faces when we tell them,
Speaker 2: they're like, are you serious right here? Yeah? And not
Speaker 2: you nothing. I guess you see, we love our Bearcats,
Speaker 2: but they would expect oh, you see, he's got a
Speaker 2: long program. They've been this, they've been that. No, it's
Speaker 2: Miami all the time.
Speaker 1: Was there a light bulb moment that went off that
Speaker 1: somebody prompted going off?
Speaker 2: You said there should be a documentary about this.
Speaker 3: Not necessarily a light bulb moment, but Alisha Lipton as
Speaker 3: our client at Miami University, and it really started with
Speaker 3: a relationship based on marketing and helping them to tell
Speaker 3: their story about.
Speaker 4: You know, getting enrollment up.
Speaker 3: And she's actually the niece of Era Parsigan, so there's
Speaker 3: this passion project for her. Not only her, but also
Speaker 3: the president of Miami University who came from Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: So President Crawford also has this passion for wanting to
Speaker 3: tell the story. He takes runs and walks around the
Speaker 3: statues right outside of Yager Stadium all the time, and
Speaker 3: he truly thinks that the that the statues are actually
Speaker 3: talking to him, which is really cool.
Speaker 4: And you know he takes inspiration from that.
Speaker 3: And so when we were asked do you think you
Speaker 3: guys can do this documentary?
Speaker 4: You know we stood up to the challenge. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 4: we'd love to help tell these stories.
Speaker 2: You guys are storytellers.
Speaker 1: So how when you've got a project this massive, what
Speaker 1: are the what are the storylines?
Speaker 2: The threads? What's the direction you try to go with this?
Speaker 2: So there's three threads that we decided on very early
Speaker 2: is is the cradle. So if people know about Miami,
Speaker 2: they know the cradle of coaches is actually much bigger
Speaker 2: than the ten statues that are outside of Yeager. There's
Speaker 2: swimming coaches that are in the cradle. They're Sean Payton,
Speaker 2: the coach for the Broncos. He's in the cradle of coaches.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have a statue because there's a criteria. So
Speaker 2: that's one of the threads. The other other two threads
Speaker 2: are leadership at Miami. Miami is cultivating leaders, not only
Speaker 2: on the football field, but CEOs. Uh you know, whether
Speaker 2: you're an engineering, astrophysicist, whatever you are, Yes, Starbucks, They're
Speaker 2: they're cultivating leaders and you know, and they want to
Speaker 2: they want to they want to tell that story. And
Speaker 2: the other one is high school football Ohio. You know,
Speaker 2: we View Bank is from New Richmond, Indiana. It's probably
Speaker 2: ten feet away from the border, right, But all the
Speaker 2: other guys are from Ohio. They all were born here.
Speaker 2: They all can tell that Ohio story. Why is Ohio
Speaker 2: football different? And that's one of the thread lines through
Speaker 2: lines of for this.
Speaker 1: What was it like corralling all these interviews and what
Speaker 1: kind of I mean, is it ten minutes at a
Speaker 1: time with him. Do you are you lucky to get
Speaker 1: him for five minutes? What's it like? In my I
Speaker 1: would imagine once they got going and got comfortable, it
Speaker 1: was just a stream of stories.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It's interesting to try to get all of these doors opened,
Speaker 3: right when you're talking about ninety people, and you're thinking
Speaker 3: about Lou Holtz, Sean McVay, John Harbaugh, Zach Rightly, just
Speaker 3: just so many names. Really, truly, it was about building
Speaker 3: these relationships, and Miami has a great relationship building. There's
Speaker 3: this network that Miami has. But we spent probably an
Speaker 3: hour to ninety minutes with each of these people, so,
Speaker 3: you know, I talked earlier Sean McVay. It was like
Speaker 3: he's only done twenty minute interviews before, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: we need him for ninety minutes, and we're not flying
Speaker 3: to la for twenty minutes with Sean McVay.
Speaker 4: And he gave us ninety minutes gladly.
Speaker 3: Then we ended up having lunch with him and he
Speaker 3: just told stories and it was wonderful. You know, we
Speaker 3: were there with him and his old college roomies, Chris
Speaker 3: Shula and Joe Caniglia.
Speaker 4: It's just awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the moment that Jesse says, we want to
Speaker 2: do this for Miami. Please tell Sean it's from Miami.
Speaker 2: How much time do you want?
Speaker 4: Yeah? They it opens the doors.
Speaker 2: These are grown men. They're crying on camera because they
Speaker 2: have such a love And I'm so jealous.
Speaker 4: Don't tell the secrets of who cries on camp.
Speaker 2: I will, but I'm just you know, Look, I went
Speaker 2: to UC, I went to the MKU. I didn't have
Speaker 2: a traditional college experience. These guys that went to Oxford
Speaker 2: and went for four years and had that beautiful campus,
Speaker 2: Mother Miami Mother. I lived with Mother Miami and had
Speaker 2: had that football experience. It means the world to them
Speaker 2: and they will do anything for Miami.
Speaker 1: This sense of pride, I told you how moving it
Speaker 1: was just in the trailer when you see him sit
Speaker 1: down to begin the interview and just the sense of
Speaker 1: pride that comes through just the trailer that they have.
Speaker 1: You can feel it is when you have that collection
Speaker 1: of people all from one school. Is there something in
Speaker 1: all of their DNA that's woven through it? Is that
Speaker 1: how does it? How does it happen that it's this school?
Speaker 1: And that's why, as we say what's in the water
Speaker 1: in Ohio? What's going on?
Speaker 2: You know? And and they all just since most of
Speaker 2: them are from Ohio.
Speaker 4: They're also really humble.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean they're so humble.
Speaker 3: That you sit them down and Scott starts like listing
Speaker 3: all their accolades, and they almost get like shy, like
Speaker 3: coy about it, right, I mean truly, and you have
Speaker 3: to tell them like, I know you're humble, but we've
Speaker 3: got to talk about all the great things that you've
Speaker 3: done even since you've left.
Speaker 4: Miami, you know.
Speaker 2: Interview McVeigh and Chris Shula an interviewing Joe Coniglio, who's
Speaker 2: on the staff out there and for the La Rams
Speaker 2: and saying, hey, you were on the same dorm floor
Speaker 2: as a Shula in a McVeigh How how cool was that?
Speaker 2: And Andiglio was like, we were just playing video games
Speaker 2: eating pizza. We really didn't it.
Speaker 4: Was can jump run?
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, because they didn't. If you if you talk
Speaker 2: to Chris Shula, he'll never he interviews himself as Chris.
Speaker 2: He's never Chris Shula. He does not want to be
Speaker 2: known as Don Shula's grandson because he wants to carve
Speaker 2: his own path. Sure, every one of these guys is
Speaker 2: the same way they are remarkable human beings. He just
Speaker 2: want to You just want to hang out with him,
Speaker 2: You want to surround yourself. I mean Aaron Kromer took
Speaker 2: us out to dinner. He's the offensive line coach for
Speaker 2: the Bills. He took us out to dinner and it
Speaker 2: was hanging out with you.
Speaker 3: Find we yeah in Buffalo, Yeah, but yeah, it's been amazing.
Speaker 1: So when when you're putting together all the interviews for this,
Speaker 1: what else in terms of footage did you have to
Speaker 1: archive for old game footage, newspaper clippings, what's it like
Speaker 1: backfilling everything else to make it come alive.
Speaker 3: We're in that process right now, actually, Lance, So we
Speaker 3: are going to finish up production, so getting a couple
Speaker 3: more interviews. So we're actually headed to Connecticut next week.
Speaker 3: We're going to be talking to Chris Berman. I think
Speaker 3: that's a pretty well known name that everybody knows around here.
Speaker 3: We're going to talk to some of karm Koza's old
Speaker 3: Yale players and and then over the next few months
Speaker 3: we're going to go to actually Baton Rouge and go
Speaker 3: to LSU Land and talk to some of Paul Dietel's
Speaker 3: old players and then we're going to wrap up some
Speaker 3: additional interviews in December, so so those are kind of
Speaker 3: coming together still, and we're really looking for a Fall
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty six release. That's sort of the thought
Speaker 3: process that we have and uh yeah, so so those
Speaker 3: are to come. I mean, we've started our homework, we've
Speaker 3: started that research. Typically when we meet with people, they
Speaker 3: want to hand off things to us too, so we're
Speaker 3: we're getting quite a lot when we when we meet.
Speaker 4: With them as well.
Speaker 2: Miami has a to I mean, they have a coach,
Speaker 2: they have playbooks, pencil drawn playbooks from Paul Brown there
Speaker 2: and we view bank and I'm holding this stuff. It's
Speaker 2: like holding Shakespeare stuff. Yeah, and they're like, no, take
Speaker 2: it out, no big deals. So I mean to hold
Speaker 2: that stuff, to hold Paul Brown's playbooks that are pencil drawn,
Speaker 2: it just gives me chills just thinking about it right now.
Speaker 2: And there's not many people that but Miami has it
Speaker 2: and Miami wants Miami wants to let the world know
Speaker 2: that it's there. Yeah, And they have archives that John Pond.
Speaker 2: They have all kinds of stuff in these guys because
Speaker 2: they all a lot of them came back and lived there,
Speaker 2: John Pond, you know we we we went back and
Speaker 2: lived there for all these years. They have all his
Speaker 2: stuff and all these guys love Miami so much. They
Speaker 2: just donated everything to the Archives of King Library.
Speaker 1: So does all of this get edited squeezed into one episode?
Speaker 1: Is it a series? Are there ten parts? What are
Speaker 1: we looking what are we looking at? How to be presented?
Speaker 4: That's a great question. So it depends on who we
Speaker 4: sell it to.
Speaker 3: But it can kind of morph, right, So at this
Speaker 3: point we have thought about what does it look like
Speaker 3: if it's an episodic, it's a two episode series. You know,
Speaker 3: we don't have a big conflict hook. We have a hook, right,
Speaker 3: there is a hooks. So getting from episode one to
Speaker 3: episode two, you're gonna want to hang in there for
Speaker 3: episode two to hear what happens. But it could be
Speaker 3: a full feature documentary. But we have it right now
Speaker 3: set to you know, two episodes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't want to put names into your mouths, but
Speaker 1: I mean, would in consideration be like, could this be Netflix,
Speaker 1: could it be HBO, could it be ESPN? All those
Speaker 1: potential platforms.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're having some really great conversations, which is awesome.
Speaker 3: I think that there's a lot of great potential. I
Speaker 3: think that Cincinnati, we will be proud to know that
Speaker 3: this production company here, locally based Cincinnati. You know, we've
Speaker 3: been pulling from a team here in Cincinnati, is creating
Speaker 3: a documentary that could live on one of those platforms.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, speaking of leadership, every time we talk about a
Speaker 2: Netflix or a Hulu or NFL network whatever, they go, oh, well,
Speaker 2: some of Miami. Is it works there. I get to
Speaker 2: the count I'm like, okay, great, you know there's no roadblocks.
Speaker 2: Everybody is like, oh well there's somebody, somebody, some executive
Speaker 2: at NBC Sports works at Miami. We'll get you. We'll
Speaker 2: get your lunch with them. Great.
Speaker 1: I would think a cool part of this with the
Speaker 1: Resolve being locally based, this sounds like it's not going
Speaker 1: out and hiring freelancers from Boston, La, parts of the county.
Speaker 1: It's it's the core here that knows those the essence
Speaker 1: of everything you're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we look, I mean we live this. You know
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't play for Molar or Saint X
Speaker 2: or whatever, but you know, we live Southwestern football.
Speaker 4: I am a ringer now.
Speaker 3: At trivia, right, but it's a specific trivia.
Speaker 2: We get what they're trying to do. We get what
Speaker 2: they're trying to do, you know, we understand. And and
Speaker 2: somebody came to them early on and said you should
Speaker 2: hire somebody local. And it got you know, because they
Speaker 2: could have easily went to LA or New York and said, hey,
Speaker 2: we're going to hire this company. They're going to do
Speaker 2: it all. It would have had no feel No, no,
Speaker 2: not at all. I didn't play high school football, but boy,
Speaker 2: I I feel like that. I we feel like that
Speaker 2: we were the right company to land this.
Speaker 3: We bleed Miami at this point, and I would say,
Speaker 3: I mean, you see me now, I'm wearing my Miami
Speaker 3: sweatshirt that has a Cradle of Coaches logo and amalonic
Speaker 3: by the way, my kids wear Miami gear.
Speaker 4: My kids are all about it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: They've been so kind to let them be on the sidelines.
Speaker 3: You know, Scott Thompson his kids the same way. I mean,
Speaker 3: we're kind of bleeding Miami at this point.
Speaker 4: And it's great.
Speaker 3: I mean we walk on campus and we get to
Speaker 3: talk and interact with the president, the marketing team, the
Speaker 3: ad David Saylor, they're all amazing, and they had been
Speaker 3: great about opening the doors for us, which is awesome.
Speaker 2: They're hit twenty seven. We can be up there in
Speaker 2: fifty eight minutes and no problem. But you know, if
Speaker 2: they would hire some of New York, it would have
Speaker 2: been a different feel. Sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are we talking at some point then like a
Speaker 1: world premiere, a red carpets, spotlights, crossing and dignitaries dressed
Speaker 1: up and walking in all of that.
Speaker 3: Yes, there will be some VIP screenings. I'll be sure
Speaker 3: to slip and invite your way Lance. Yeah, but that's
Speaker 3: all should be happening, you know, within the next several months. Right,
Speaker 3: that's the exciting part. But well, we'll definitely keep you
Speaker 3: posted on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is there anything I thought? I came in fully prepared?
Speaker 1: Is there anything I've left out? Is there any nugget
Speaker 1: or note that you say, Oh, I wish you would
Speaker 1: have asked me about this.
Speaker 3: You know, I think that the connections the network, you know,
Speaker 3: it all started at this what we say as a
Speaker 3: relatively small school, but the network is so expansive. I mean,
Speaker 3: it was kind of surprising to me, is once you
Speaker 3: talk to one person in the NFL, they knew ten
Speaker 3: more people, and they all came from Miami University, which
Speaker 3: was so incredible to me. All these coaches, you're talking
Speaker 3: the Raiders, You're you're talking the Dolphins, the Jaguars, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, they're just they're they're kind of pop up everywhere.
Speaker 2: Well, you're talking about Pat and Rdoozy. We're at you know,
Speaker 2: University of Pittsburgh, walking through their facilities and they share
Speaker 2: facilities with the Steelers. We're walking through and we usually
Speaker 2: have Miami stuff on, and we've got just people walking
Speaker 2: in the hallway, love and love and honor, and we're like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, but I think it's expectations. I think if
Speaker 2: we were wearing Ohio State stuff, you would think that
Speaker 2: you'd get that Ohio thing because it's such a large school,
Speaker 2: has so many alumni. But we walked through him and
Speaker 2: we hear love and Hunter all here in the airport
Speaker 2: all the time. Right. Yeah. And we were interviewing Nardoozy
Speaker 2: at pitt and he was like one of my assistants
Speaker 2: went to Miami too, and he would love to be interviewed.
Speaker 2: We interviewed him. He was one of our best interviews
Speaker 2: we did for all.
Speaker 4: The ages in trailer.
Speaker 2: He's in the trailer. Yeah, and it was only because
Speaker 2: all because we had our Miami stuff on and those
Speaker 2: guys were like, I'll clear my schedule if it's from Miami.
Speaker 2: You got me. What do you need that doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: I've been working in twenty six years in this business.
Speaker 2: Used to do a lot of network stuff for ESPN
Speaker 2: NFL network. You get twenty minutes max with a coach
Speaker 2: they're giving us. The John Harbus sat down, he was like,
Speaker 2: I'm yours. However long we could sit here for three
Speaker 2: hours and talk about.
Speaker 3: Miami and he's sang the Fikes fights unprompted, unprompted. So
Speaker 3: that kind of content is actually really great and we
Speaker 3: have it on our Instagram channel.
Speaker 1: So final question. We're listening right now. If they want
Speaker 1: to see the trailer, follow with what's going on?
Speaker 2: How do they do it?
Speaker 3: If you search Cradle of Coaches and if you search
Speaker 3: Cradle of Coaches documentary you should find content. But there
Speaker 3: is an Instagram channel where you can get some exclusive
Speaker 3: behind the scenes pieces of content as well.
Speaker 1: So yeah, this was really cool. I wish we had
Speaker 1: more time and I can't wait till it comes out.
Speaker 4: Oh come back.
Speaker 1: I absolutely considered the invite extended Scott Jesse, great meeting you,
Speaker 1: congrats on this and best of luck wrapping it all up.
Speaker 4: Thanks.
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