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Speaker 1: Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm Lance, but callisterre

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Speaker 1: glad to have you here. Let's get into it. I

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Speaker 1: cannot wait. I have been privy to see the trailer

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Speaker 1: I get chills when I talk about it, and I've

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Speaker 1: The documentary is the cradle of coaches. I have in

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Speaker 1: the studio Scott Thompson and Jesse Herron of Resolved, who

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Speaker 1: are working behind the scenes to put all this together

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Speaker 1: tireless hours, and they've joined me in studio and it

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Speaker 1: is great to see both of you. As you can tell,

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Speaker 1: I'm really fired up about this project. I just find

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Speaker 1: it fascinating. And Scott, let me start with you. And

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Speaker 1: I told you when we sat down to me. One

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Speaker 1: of the moments when Patnerdoozy is quoted I believe in

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Speaker 1: the trailer is saying, it's pretty incredible that a small

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Speaker 1: school in the middle of nowhere changed football. That's a

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Speaker 2: And I tell these guys when I'm interviewing. We've interviewed

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Speaker 2: I think when you know, you talk to a random

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Speaker 2: person who doesn't know about Miami or the Cradle of

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Speaker 2: Coaches and you start to mention all the coaches, I

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Speaker 2: think it's expectations that the thing, Oh, that's got to

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Speaker 2: when you talk about Paul Brown, the godfather of modern

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Speaker 2: and you should see people's faces when we tell them,

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Speaker 2: they're like, are you serious right here? Yeah? And not

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Speaker 2: you nothing. I guess you see, we love our Bearcats,

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Speaker 2: but they would expect oh, you see, he's got a

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Speaker 1: Was there a light bulb moment that went off that

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Speaker 2: You said there should be a documentary about this.

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Speaker 3: Not necessarily a light bulb moment, but Alisha Lipton as

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Speaker 3: our client at Miami University, and it really started with

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Speaker 3: And she's actually the niece of Era Parsigan, so there's

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Speaker 3: So President Crawford also has this passion for wanting to

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Speaker 4: And you know he takes inspiration from that.

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Speaker 3: And so when we were asked do you think you

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Speaker 4: You know we stood up to the challenge. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 4: we'd love to help tell these stories.

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Speaker 2: You guys are storytellers.

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Speaker 1: So how when you've got a project this massive, what

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Speaker 2: The threads? What's the direction you try to go with this?

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Speaker 2: So there's three threads that we decided on very early

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Speaker 2: is is the cradle. So if people know about Miami,

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Speaker 1: What was it like corralling all these interviews and what

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Speaker 3: It's interesting to try to get all of these doors opened,

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Speaker 3: Then we ended up having lunch with him and he

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Speaker 2: These are grown men. They're crying on camera because they

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Speaker 1: This sense of pride, I told you how moving it

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Speaker 1: So when when you're putting together all the interviews for this,

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Speaker 3: We're in that process right now, actually, Lance, So we

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Speaker 1: So does all of this get edited squeezed into one episode?

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Speaker 3: But it can kind of morph, right, So at this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're having some really great conversations, which is awesome.

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Speaker 3: I think that there's a lot of great potential. I

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Speaker 3: this production company here, locally based Cincinnati. You know, we've

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, speaking of leadership, every time we talk about a

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Speaker 2: some of Miami. Is it works there. I get to

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Speaker 2: Everybody is like, oh well there's somebody, somebody, some executive

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Speaker 2: get your lunch with them. Great.

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Speaker 1: I would think a cool part of this with the

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Speaker 1: Resolve being locally based, this sounds like it's not going

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Speaker 1: It's it's the core here that knows those the essence

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we look, I mean we live this. You know

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't play for Molar or Saint X

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Speaker 4: I am a ringer now.

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Speaker 3: At trivia, right, but it's a specific trivia.

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Speaker 2: We get what they're trying to do. We get what

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Speaker 2: somebody came to them early on and said you should

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Speaker 2: we're going to hire this company. They're going to do

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Speaker 2: it all. It would have had no feel No, no,

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Speaker 2: not at all. I didn't play high school football, but boy,

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Speaker 2: I I feel like that. I we feel like that

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Speaker 3: We bleed Miami at this point, and I would say,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you see me now, I'm wearing my Miami

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Speaker 4: My kids are all about it.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: They've been so kind to let them be on the sidelines.

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Speaker 3: You know, Scott Thompson his kids the same way. I mean,

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Speaker 4: And it's great.

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Speaker 3: I mean we walk on campus and we get to

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Speaker 2: They're hit twenty seven. We can be up there in

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Speaker 2: fifty eight minutes and no problem. But you know, if

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Speaker 2: been a different feel. Sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, are we talking at some point then like a

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Speaker 3: Yes, there will be some VIP screenings. I'll be sure

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Speaker 3: to slip and invite your way Lance. Yeah, but that's

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Speaker 3: all should be happening, you know, within the next several months. Right,

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Speaker 3: that's the exciting part. But well, we'll definitely keep you

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is there anything I thought? I came in fully prepared?

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Speaker 1: Is there anything I've left out? Is there any nugget

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Speaker 3: You know, I think that the connections the network, you know,

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Speaker 3: it all started at this what we say as a

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Speaker 3: it was kind of surprising to me, is once you

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Speaker 3: was so incredible to me. All these coaches, you're talking

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Speaker 3: the Raiders, You're you're talking the Dolphins, the Jaguars, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're just they're they're kind of pop up everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're talking about Pat and Rdoozy. We're at you know,

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Speaker 2: University of Pittsburgh, walking through their facilities and they share

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Speaker 2: we hear love and Hunter all here in the airport

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Speaker 2: all the time. Right. Yeah. And we were interviewing Nardoozy

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Speaker 2: went to Miami too, and he would love to be interviewed.

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Speaker 2: We interviewed him. He was one of our best interviews

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Speaker 2: we did for all.

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Speaker 4: The ages in trailer.

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Speaker 2: He's in the trailer. Yeah, and it was only because

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Speaker 2: all because we had our Miami stuff on and those

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Speaker 2: guys were like, I'll clear my schedule if it's from Miami.

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Speaker 2: You got me. What do you need that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: I've been working in twenty six years in this business.

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Speaker 2: Used to do a lot of network stuff for ESPN

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Speaker 2: NFL network. You get twenty minutes max with a coach

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Speaker 2: they're giving us. The John Harbus sat down, he was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm yours. However long we could sit here for three

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Speaker 3: Miami and he's sang the Fikes fights unprompted, unprompted. So

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Speaker 3: that kind of content is actually really great and we

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Speaker 1: So final question. We're listening right now. If they want

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Speaker 1: to see the trailer, follow with what's going on?

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Speaker 2: How do they do it?

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Speaker 3: If you search Cradle of Coaches and if you search

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Speaker 1: So yeah, this was really cool. I wish we had

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Speaker 4: Oh come back.

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Speaker 1: I absolutely considered the invite extended Scott Jesse, great meeting you,

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Speaker 1: congrats on this and best of luck wrapping it all up.

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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