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Speaker 2: We are back with relatively new Temboro CEO Matt Caldwell.

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Speaker 2: Kind of have to join us from our location as well. Welcome.

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Speaker 2: I had a nice conversation with you a few weeks back,

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Speaker 2: and I don't remember we talked about the weather. Is

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Speaker 2: this a culture shock thing for you?

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Speaker 3: What we have?

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Speaker 2: You know, like when they tell you tomorrow morning the

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Speaker 2: windshill is going to be like minus fifty or do

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Speaker 2: you say, ah, I've been in and out of cold

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Speaker 2: weather before. How is this how you acclimating?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely.

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Speaker 5: And we knew we were getting into, but I think

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Speaker 5: even local Minnesotans are saying this is even extreme. It is,

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Speaker 5: you know, Thanksgiving weekend, I think it hit like negative

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Speaker 5: ten and there was a big snowstorm and we were like, Wow,

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Speaker 5: it's gonna be a long, bitter and.

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Speaker 3: A little different from Florida.

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Speaker 5: That Yeah, I grew up in New York, so I

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Speaker 5: was that's some cool weather. But my well, my kids

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Speaker 5: that had never seen snow. We're born in South Florida,

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Speaker 5: and my wife grew up in Brazil, so you know,

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Speaker 5: pretty warm climate at least relative to hear and I.

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Speaker 5: But like December and first first couple of weeks or

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Speaker 5: week or so in January, temperatures maybe twenties thirties, and

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Speaker 5: we were like, this is great.

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Speaker 4: Too bad.

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Speaker 5: Once you get hit with the negative ten, you kind

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Speaker 5: of adjust. But this week's been it's been very Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think even for natives it's uh, and for those

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Speaker 2: of who have been here a while, it's it's it's

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Speaker 2: it's a little bit on the on the jarring side.

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Speaker 2: Fortunately we're playing the basketball and doors. We're in a

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Speaker 2: good spot here on the Skyway level as well.

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Speaker 3: How acclimated how well do you.

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Speaker 2: Think you knew the market when you took the job,

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Speaker 2: and how acclimated do you feel that you're getting in

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Speaker 2: the position and this this market, because every market has

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Speaker 2: its peculiarity.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so' been to Minnesota a number of times.

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Speaker 5: You know, it came from the NHL, so you know,

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Speaker 5: we played the wild here. I've probably been on four

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Speaker 5: or five road trips. Saw a great fan base, you know,

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Speaker 5: in the state of hockey arena there with Minnesota Wild.

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Speaker 5: Obviously did my research. I mean, this happened very fast

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Speaker 5: this summer. We had like a month or so to prepare,

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Speaker 5: and I thought, I know it was getting into But

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Speaker 5: there's been a lot of pleasant surprises. The sports market

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Speaker 5: here is the best I've ever seen. You know, South

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Speaker 5: Florida is not a natural sports market. You know, we

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Speaker 5: wound up really making like Brown County and Fort Water

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Speaker 5: like a hockey town. But it took us many years.

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Speaker 5: I felt like we were creating fans and grew up

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Speaker 5: in New York. Great sports market were also like a

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Speaker 5: just big finance, big Wall Street, big corporate. You know, here,

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Speaker 5: even though you have a big corporate base, like everyone's

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Speaker 5: into their sports. There's a lot of pride so as

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Speaker 4: This has been phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: What's your experience, you know, this is given the size

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Speaker 2: of the market, to have this many pro teams and

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Speaker 2: to have obviously the major college university means there is

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Speaker 2: a great deal of competition. One could argue there's only

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Speaker 2: so much money to go around, so much money that

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Speaker 2: are larger in the metropolitan standpoint, what kind of challenges

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think it's it is saturated.

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Speaker 5: I think the market can withstand this number of teams

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Speaker 5: because of the pride that the fans have.

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Speaker 4: But there's a number of venues, right like the hockey.

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Speaker 5: And basketball team playing two separate venues, soccer and football

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Speaker 5: playing two separate stadiums, and super stadium for baseball Minnesota

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Speaker 5: of course. So I think when you have six different

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Speaker 5: But I my early gut is that you know, there's

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Speaker 2: You and I talked when we met a while back

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Speaker 2: to find out about how ownership, the new owners majority

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Speaker 2: to Glenn Taylor when Glenn Taylor was the main guy.

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Speaker 2: The feeling i think I've gotten regarding well two significant

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Speaker 2: moves Tim Connley coming here and you, is that a

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Speaker 2: Rod and Mark are sort of we want what we

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Speaker 2: the point of we're not taking no for an answer

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Speaker 3: Can you speak to that and their style in that regard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's absolutely bang on. I mean, they

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Speaker 5: They've been in environments obviously, Alex is a former baseball player.

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Speaker 5: He's been a part of a championship team, marked with

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Speaker 5: all the companies he's launched, and he knows that hiring

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Speaker 5: key talent is very important. They're willing to pay and

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Speaker 5: they're willing to commit. I mean they I'm not bragging

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Speaker 5: about this, but they offered me a ten year contract

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Speaker 5: and I was blown away by that.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even know that was a positiicity. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: had some players from.

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Speaker 5: The Panthers making jokes to me when they saw I

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Speaker 5: had a ten year contract, they say, hey, you know,

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Speaker 5: most we can get is like seven years in the NHL.

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Speaker 5: Can you call Gary Beatman. But they wanted to, you know,

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Speaker 5: commit to me long term. They you know, they've been

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Speaker 5: very vocal about building a new arena, so they wanted

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Speaker 5: to make sure that the local city knew that I'd

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Speaker 5: be here for a long term, long term, not going

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Speaker 5: to be here for three four years and cut a

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Speaker 4: And I think they wanted me to feel secure that.

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Speaker 5: If I was going to make this big for a

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Speaker 5: big move of my family, that you know, had some

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Speaker 2: Let's stay with the arena for a minute. The I

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Speaker 2: think you and I we talked about this, and I

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Speaker 2: arena fatigue. The one exception has been I think the

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Speaker 2: Vikings Stadium ultimately was easier of a process, eve though

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Speaker 2: it wasn't easy, but it was easier than any of

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Speaker 2: the others, which is make your own you know you

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Speaker 2: got money, take care of it, do private funding whatever

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Speaker 2: the case may be.

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Speaker 3: In the case of the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: I think they ended up getting like half a billion

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Speaker 2: from from the state and various entities. Regarding the deals

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Speaker 2: challenges here? Just update us on where we are in

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Speaker 2: the process. For what they've made clear. Alex and Mark

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Speaker 2: havev that we got to get it, so one way

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So I've already had two great meetings with the mayor,

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Speaker 5: with Jacob Frye, and he's very motivated, right He's he

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Speaker 5: just got re elected.

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Speaker 4: He sees this is really great for the community. It

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Speaker 4: can help with, you know, further revitalizing downtown Minneapolis.

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Speaker 5: Of course, there's preferences for us to be in Minneapolis,

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Speaker 5: and that that's our priority to try to get done.

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Speaker 5: You know, we see this not just as an arena,

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Speaker 5: but a big real estate conject We want to do

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Speaker 5: multi use district. We want to team up with all

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Speaker 5: the constituents that are here locally, and the corporate base

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Speaker 5: has been very supportive. I think people see this as

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Speaker 5: a you know, a major project that can get people

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Speaker 2: And give us a sense of where we are in

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Speaker 2: terms of what you're exploring and what kind of realistic

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Speaker 2: time I know it's going to be you're years out

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Speaker 2: from probably having one built, but just in terms of

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Speaker 2: are we still? Would you say in the very early

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Speaker 4: Still in the early stages with these things.

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Speaker 5: I like to work backwards. I've done three public private

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Speaker 5: partnerships in Florida. I hadn't done like a brand new

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Speaker 5: I did a major renovation, did a brand new practice facility,

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Speaker 5: on an arena, you're talking about three years right now.

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Speaker 4: Just getting to the shovel of ground part is the

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Speaker 5: So I would say that over this next year or so,

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Speaker 5: identifying the right site, getting architects, construction managers involved, maybe

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Speaker 5: you know, the best case scenario that can get done

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Speaker 4: Have to go into permitting.

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Speaker 5: You have to go into working with the administration of

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Speaker 4: That takes a lot of time.

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Speaker 5: So I would say best case scenario that you know,

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Speaker 5: three years, So you're looking at, you know, a five

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Speaker 5: six year process, but it's probably more likely in the

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Speaker 2: Are there more in the time you've been here? Do

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Speaker 2: you detect there are more challenges or impediments regarding the

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Speaker 2: layers you have to get through that maybe you're you're

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Speaker 4: No, not necessarily, I mean I haven't.

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Speaker 5: I've been working mostly with the with the local city

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Speaker 5: of Minneapolis right now, and at some point we'll we'll

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Speaker 5: talk with the state and the county. But I think

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Speaker 5: that the feedback I'm getting right now is that people

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Speaker 5: are motivated for this. The community would love to see,

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Speaker 5: you know, a brand new arena with with multi use

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Speaker 5: district around it. You know, we do have the second

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Speaker 5: oldest arena in the NBA, so as excitement around you

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Speaker 5: know what this can bring with jobs, with economic development.

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Speaker 5: So I think it's pretty similar to other you know, uh,

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Speaker 5: the dynamics of different cities.

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Speaker 3: You know this world a lot better than I do.

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Speaker 2: My recollection is, for example, I thought the arena, the

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Speaker 2: Warriors New Arena or relatively new arena, the one built

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Speaker 2: in San Francisco was basically a private largely a private project.

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Speaker 3: May is that true? Is that?

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Speaker 2: Are there any lessons from that that that might be

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Speaker 2: the MO model going forward, especially in a place that

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Speaker 2: where folks are pretty stubborn legislators included, but not necessarily

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Speaker 2: writing checks to teams. Give me some sense of that history.

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Speaker 2: If there's any places where you say, okay, here's kind

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Speaker 2: of with some exceptions, here's kind of what we're looking for.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all options are on the table, and yeah, there's

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Speaker 5: there's some arenas that that were privately funded, there's some

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Speaker 2: in some ways, correct, Yes, yes.

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Speaker 4: You do.

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Speaker 4: Project to the council.

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Speaker 4: You know, if he gets seven out of thirteen, you

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Speaker 2: We talked about this a few weeks ago, but I'll

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Speaker 3: There's always the question.

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Speaker 2: I think ideally it's pretty clear you guys your preference

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. Yes, we have an.

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Speaker 2: One of the other big subjects that I know you've

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Speaker 3: It's the old look.

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Speaker 2: Because the team was as bad as it was for

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Speaker 5: No, Listen, I understand we don't take these decisions lightly.

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Speaker 4: So listen, we're.

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Speaker 5: Planning to build a you know, try to bring a

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Speaker 4: So I think all.

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Speaker 5: Those factors you know, justify you know, a price increase,

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because I get it. I mean, everybody is

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Speaker 2: But I'm wondering how you guys calculate one sneaky thing

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Speaker 4: Right, it's definitely a big consideration. The last thing we.

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Speaker 4: What I would say is the you know, there's a price.

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Speaker 5: For everyone in the arena. You can still buy a

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Speaker 5: I mean that's very cheap, you know, relatively speaking. If

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Speaker 4: Sure you can find another seat. And we made.

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Speaker 5: Sure to have, you know, pricing across the arena that's

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Speaker 4: Lower level, we have a lot of demand.

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Speaker 5: We had a big wait list of new business people

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Speaker 2: What is is there a sweet spot in your philosophy

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Speaker 4: If people will know.

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Speaker 3: What are you hearing?

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Speaker 2: So you know, I was gonna ask you about the

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Speaker 2: Lessening the space I have because you're adding three or

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Speaker 5: the lower bowl, but this is dead space that we're

444
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Speaker 5: not utilizing right now.

445
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Speaker 4: I think in the past there wasn't demand.

446
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Speaker 5: So we're being very mindful that people's own seat is

447
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Speaker 5: not being you know, squished, if you will.

448
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Speaker 4: And trying to be additive and open dead space that

449
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Speaker 4: we have.

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Speaker 2: In the remaining minutes, let me you mentioned the the

451
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Speaker 2: KG reunion, which you guys made a big announcement on

452
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Speaker 2: Can you give us any cent? Was that you would

453
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Speaker 2: you call those negotiating. My assumption was always that once

454
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Speaker 2: the ownership change was official, that that was not going

455
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Speaker 2: to be difficult to do that. That's what you know,

456
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Speaker 2: for whatever reason, better for worse, that's what KG was

457
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Speaker 2: waiting for, and once that change was official, that it

458
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Speaker 2: would be pretty easy for you guys to do it.

459
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Speaker 6: Was it?

460
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Speaker 3: I mean, there are all sorts of conversations and still

461
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Speaker 3: negotiations that a Rod and or Mark had to do

462
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Speaker 3: with with KG how do we get to this place

463
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Speaker 3: where now it looks like he's going to be back.

464
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's definitely coming back.

465
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Speaker 5: But I came in at the eleventh hour, you know,

466
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Speaker 5: so they did all all the dirty work. Mark and

467
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Speaker 5: Alex have been talking to Kevin since they got involved

468
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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty one.

469
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Speaker 4: I don't think it.

470
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Speaker 5: Was a foregone conclusion that he was definitely coming back

471
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Speaker 5: once they got majority of control, but it definitely made

472
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Speaker 5: things a lot lot easier.

473
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Speaker 4: I don't know if you've.

474
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Speaker 5: Met Kelly Leferrier, who is you know, interim CEO before

475
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Speaker 5: I arrived, and she's gonna be staying on with us.

476
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Speaker 5: She did a lot of work with Kevin's management team,

477
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Speaker 5: and you know, once the transaction closed the summer, you know, July, August,

478
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 5: September probably, you know, by weekly calls with them. We

479
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 5: wanted to script out how much we're going to pay him,

480
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Speaker 5: how much, how many visits he was going to make

481
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Speaker 5: Jersey retirement, you know, what was he going to do

482
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Speaker 5: in the community was here.

483
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Speaker 4: There was a lot of details to still iron out.

484
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Speaker 5: We really hadn't gotten to those, you know, specific conversations

485
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Speaker 5: with him and that that really picked up these last

486
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Speaker 5: couple of months.

487
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Speaker 4: But I didn't feel like it was like a.

488
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Speaker 5: Done deal until we really got to the finish line,

489
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Speaker 5: like December time Frameim.

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Speaker 2: Can you give us a sense lastly of what his

491
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Speaker 2: role is going to be, because as far as I

492
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Speaker 2: understand it, it's not management, it's not making trades, it's

493
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Speaker 2: not the personnel side, but some stuff that he wants

494
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Speaker 2: to do and that you guys are agreeable to have

495
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Speaker 2: him do. So can you lay that out as specifically

496
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Speaker 2: as you can.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he will be an ambassador. He loves this community.

498
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Speaker 5: He spent a lot of his you know, foundational years here. Yeah,

499
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Speaker 5: he's going to make a minimum of three visits. So

500
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Speaker 5: we're working on getting him here and you know, kind

501
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Speaker 5: of ended this regular season maybe beginning of playoffs, and

502
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Speaker 5: then we'll do the jersey retirement next year and then

503
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Speaker 5: we'll have you know, some meet and greets with season

504
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Speaker 5: ticket holders.

505
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Speaker 4: We will have some content that we're.

506
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Speaker 5: Going to do with him, and you know he's been

507
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 5: you know, he already did like a video with us.

508
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 5: As soon as we have the deal signed, we sent

509
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Speaker 5: a team out to la to get him in the

510
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Speaker 5: Classic edition jerseys that we have this year, and he was.

511
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Speaker 4: Wonderful and fans loved it and he had a lot

512
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Speaker 4: of fun with it.

513
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Speaker 5: So you'll see more of that content and then more

514
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Speaker 5: like in person visits.

515
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Speaker 2: Now I'm assuming when it comes to whatever compensation it's

516
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Speaker 2: more than a buck fifty that he's probably doing okay

517
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Speaker 2: in that regard.

518
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a lot more.

519
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Speaker 3: Now, is there any chance with your connections.

520
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Speaker 2: That you guys can convince him that it's part of

521
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: the Probably too late, he's probably already signed the contracts.

522
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Speaker 2: We were hoping that part of the contract could be

523
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Speaker 2: a minimum of three appearances on this program on the

524
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Speaker 2: Bumper of Bumper Show. Kevin Garnett is as hard as

525
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Speaker 2: anybody in my thirty five years in this business to

526
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Speaker 2: actually get on the radio away from like after games.

527
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 2: So that would be the ultimate challenge for us is

528
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Speaker 2: to just just like even once to either get him

529
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Speaker 2: in studio we'll take one, or even by telephone to

530
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 2: get him for like ten or fifteen minutes, because I

531
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Speaker 2: guarantee you it would go well. I guarantee you would

532
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 2: be fun and I know the audience would eat it up.

533
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Speaker 4: Yep.

534
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Speaker 5: I I wish you would have thought of this before,

535
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 5: a little too late.

536
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Speaker 3: I came to you too late.

537
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Speaker 4: See what I can do?

538
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, i'd love to. I think once

539
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 5: he gets here and he starts feeling welcome and he's

540
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Speaker 5: enjoying it, and we'll try to find an opportunity.

541
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Speaker 2: All right, I appreciate the time. Thanks for asking us

542
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 2: out for the extended visit. Good to see you too.

543
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Speaker 2: The new Timberwolves CEO Matt Caldwell kind enough to join us.

544
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 2: We'll make this to the bottom of the hour break.

545
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,479
Speaker 2: You want to do a five twenty sports fix. We'll

546
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: get some sports headlines in get to some other things.

547
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: We're at the Target Center Cage location, Wolves and Bulls

548
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 2: tonight on the Timberwolves channel because I think we also

549
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 2: have Minnesota wild Hockey. Oh one other thing? Can I

550
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Speaker 2: ask you? It just occurred to me, where are we real?

551
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 2: Quick on? I thought I read that you know, when

552
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: it comes to FanDuel and the regional deals that okay,

553
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: there may have been a payment or two minutes. That's

554
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: not always an ongoing challenge for any any teams. It

555
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: seems like regarding these regional deals, can you update us

556
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: on that?

557
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Speaker 3: Is that true?

558
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

559
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 5: There's been a mispayment for all teams, But we're working

560
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 5: diligently with FanDuel.

561
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Speaker 4: You know, we're confident we'll get them, you know, through

562
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Speaker 4: this season. We still have one more year with them.

563
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 4: They have apparently, you know, this is all in the news.

564
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Speaker 5: Two potential buyers and the NBA is leading all those discussions,

565
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Speaker 5: So we're hoping that this all gets worked out.

566
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Speaker 2: Do you have big plans beyond that that doesn't necessarily

567
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Speaker 2: involve them, like a way to reinvent the wheel already

568
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 2: or not so much.

569
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Speaker 4: It's kind of like the arena we have, you know,

570
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 4: plans B, C and D. But yeah, we'd love to try.

571
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Speaker 5: To work something out with them over the next next year.

572
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 5: And you know, we're working hard with the NBA to see,

573
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Speaker 5: you know what other solutions they have as well.

574
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Speaker 4: But we're we have some other opportunities in the market.

575
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Speaker 2: Thanks again. My only advice regarding the weather is layers.

576
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: It's all about layers. It doesn't have to be that

577
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: the outer layer is like, you know, as bulky as possible.

578
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: It's just if you have enough layers will be properly protected.

579
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Speaker 4: And that's all it is.

580
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 5: And I learned this line. It's not cold outside. You

581
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 5: just didn't address properly. Alright, I'm a little bit Minnesota, Minnesota.

582
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: Now, thanks again, I appreciate you. Bottom the hour break

583
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Speaker 2: back in just a couple of minutes here in the fan.

584
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Speaker 7: From just in case you missed it, it's the top

585
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Speaker 7: five sports taggers of the day. But now it's time

586
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Speaker 7: for Dan Barrero's Top five and five brought to you

587
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588
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589
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590
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Speaker 2: It's the five twenty Sports Fix at about five thirty five.

591
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Speaker 3: That might be about as late as it has ever been.

592
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Speaker 2: As we continue from our Target Center location where it

593
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Speaker 2: has been very busy, it's very festive. Now it's Wolves

594
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: Bulls tonight on the Timberwolves Channel. What else while we

595
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 2: want to talk about that and what else here in

596
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Speaker 2: the top five?

597
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Speaker 6: Well, I actually I'm going to continue because I've missed

598
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 6: it all week because I've been gone. I'm going to

599
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Speaker 6: give one final who's your hotline nugget? Because we have

600
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Speaker 6: some numbers from Monday nights championship game via ESPN and

601
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Speaker 6: their public relations team. Would you care to guess how

602
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Speaker 6: many people at the peak of the championship game between

603
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Speaker 6: Indiana and.

604
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Speaker 3: The National College Championship.

605
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Speaker 2: This isn't the NFL Divisional Round correct Monday peak, at

606
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Speaker 2: the peak Monday night, that's a good one.

607
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say. At the peak thirty two million. Wow,

608
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Speaker 3: you're pretty good. Close.

609
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 6: Thirty three point two million was the peak. They averaged

610
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Speaker 6: thirty million throughout the broadcast. It's the second most watched

611
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Speaker 6: college football playoff game title game. I don't know which

612
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,239
Speaker 6: was first. It's the second best cable telecast ever. And

613
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 6: this is just too good. If that surprises me, it

614
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Speaker 6: shows you kind of how you've been living the last decade. Yeah,

615
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Speaker 6: it's the most viewed non NFL sports event since the

616
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Speaker 6: twenty sixteen World Series Game seven.

617
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Speaker 3: Who played in that World Series twenty sixteen Game.

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Speaker 6: Seven might have been the Cubs, that was the Chicago

619
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Speaker 6: might have been in the Chicago Cubs. So you're the

620
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Speaker 6: last decade of your fandom.

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Speaker 3: You know why that is?

622
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Speaker 2: There's more There are more Cub fans alive than of

623
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Speaker 2: fans of any other team, and there's more College Indiana

624
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Speaker 2: University fans live than any other college as well. Allegedly,

625
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Speaker 2: is that true? That's what they keep saying. I don't

626
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Speaker 2: know how true it is.

627
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Speaker 6: I haven't heard that five billion times in the last

628
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Speaker 6: How do you how do you calculate that? And where

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Speaker 6: have you been? Eight hundred thousand? That's been my favorite.

630
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Speaker 6: I think that's grated at me more than you know.

631
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Speaker 6: Indiana has eight hundred thousand living alums. Well, we're happy

632
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Speaker 6: for your longevity. And I didn't know it, but I had,

633
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Speaker 6: I don't. I don't even know if I believe it,

634
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 6: to be honest with you. But it's wonderful to shoot

635
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 6: those are those are nice, numb, they're huge, that's uh.

636
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Speaker 3: I will say that.

637
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: And you and I haven't had a chance to talk

638
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: about the game itself in much detail that when you.

639
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 3: Know, what are you looking for in a game like that?

640
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Speaker 2: You want sort of mythic moments by which it can

641
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: be remembered forever and ever that you can put to music. Obviously,

642
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: there's a million being put to Hoosiers to say, you know,

643
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: I love you guys a whole bit. Yep, But it's it,

644
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: really is It not hard to top the quarterback option

645
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: draw play on fourth and five to basically win the

646
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Speaker 2: game ultimately, even if you didn't know it at the

647
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: time where the QB has to make several moves in order,

648
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Speaker 2: and then you got the leap.

649
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: The leap you know you're gonna get crushed.

650
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: You bring the ball back in responsibly so there's no

651
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: chance it's gonna be fumbled, and you're the Heisman Trophy winner.

652
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: That's hard to top to symbolize what you've done when

653
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: you know, when people are looking back on this game

654
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: fifty years from do you remember that time when that

655
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Speaker 2: Mendoza kid, what he did the Heisman Trophy won the

656
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: game on that's hard to top.

657
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Speaker 3: Would you not agree?

658
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Speaker 6: It was unbelievable And not that it matters to anybody

659
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 6: anymore because it's not as myth because it once was.

660
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Speaker 6: But it is the Sports Illustrated cover this week. It

661
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Speaker 6: is that picture, which you know, kids don't even know

662
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Speaker 6: what that means anymore. But for you know, people my

663
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Speaker 6: age and obviously older, that's pretty cool. And you know

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Speaker 6: what's completely getting overshadowed. I don't know if you talked

665
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Speaker 6: about this the fourth down throw and catch earlier on

666
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 6: that drive, like that play, that's the play of the

667
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 6: game to me, because at that if you don't get

668
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 6: that Miami's got the ball right around midfield. I think

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Speaker 6: I don't remember the the right side, yes, the little

670
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Speaker 6: back shoulder, that shoulder where he had to bring it

671
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Speaker 6: to get it or he was going to end up

672
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Speaker 6: trapping it and it was gonna end.

673
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Speaker 3: Up being there. They are going to be ending up

674
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Speaker 3: being overturned.

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Speaker 2: You're right, that's a very sneaky good play, but it's

676
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: an example of why they ended up where they were.

677
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: They they tended and that's.

678
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Speaker 2: A kid who started this season not even playing for

679
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Speaker 2: the first half of the season until Sarah got hurt.

680
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: So uh yeah, that you're right, that was That was

681
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: an extremely underrated play and it's the old They seem

682
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: to make a higher percentage of plays they have to

683
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: make than you know, most.

684
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Speaker 3: Teams that you're going to remember. What's crazy to me.

685
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Speaker 6: Last thing on this is my big takeaway was Indiana

686
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 6: went undefeated obviously sixteen and h yeah, like you talk

687
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 6: about college football parody, like Miami lost twice. Like you

688
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 6: you watch what they did in the playoff and then

689
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 6: how well they played I thought on Monday night, I agree,

690
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 6: and they lost two games. It just shows you how

691
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 6: hard it is to actually go through something unscathed like

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Speaker 6: the Hoosiers did.

693
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Speaker 3: So there we go.

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Speaker 2: You know what their final record was, the Hoosiers sixteen. Yeah,

695
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: the last undefeated men's college basketball champion. You remember their

696
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 2: record thirty two and oh it's all symmetrical, all amazing. Yeah,

697
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: fifty years apart and now they got both. Yeah, I

698
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: think sixteen times two is thirty two, right, even I

699
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: can figure out that match that was the test exactly.

700
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Speaker 2: The Timberwolves are on the Timberwolves channel of your iHeartRadio

701
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: app tonight seven o'clock against the Bulls because the Minnesota

702
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: Wilder back in action at Grand Casino Arena on the

703
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Speaker 2: other side of town. It is an eight thirty puck

704
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Speaker 2: drop because it's national TV, so you could, you know,

705
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: listen to maxon Mix and Match. Looks like Gus Buss

706
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: is in the net tonight for the Minnesota wild who

707
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: lost on Tuesday right to Montreal. They did late sound

708
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Speaker 2: very late. We talked to Louis was there. He's doing

709
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: TV yep, and uh we talked to him about, uh

710
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: that that was the classic game where they were you know,

711
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: completely dominated earlier, got early in the game, got more

712
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: into it and we're just sort of trying now to

713
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: get we're back to as much as it's a it's

714
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: an old story, just getting healthy enough or healthier, which

715
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Speaker 2: I think we're starting to.

716
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Speaker 3: But that's got to be the goal.

717
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: On the other side of the Olympic break, I think

718
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: is can we ever get to a place where we're

719
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: reasonably healthy and got most of our people? The Twins

720
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: fired trainers for stuff like that, Yes, they do, multiple trainers.

721
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Speaker 3: Also, Eric tonight, he got activated the nugget A good addition, right,

722
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Speaker 3: what do we call that on?

723
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Speaker 6: What do we call that? On Beyond the Pond? Brett's bits?

724
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Speaker 6: What do we call it? What is breaks? Breakaways? Breath breakaways?

725
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Speaker 6: It works well?

726
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: Thanks for jumping in. Want caught up and continue this

727
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Speaker 3: after the break. I didn't have much.

728
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Speaker 6: Else really, We're just going to talk about the wolves

729
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Speaker 6: and the fact that Julius Randall is available tonight. He

730
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Speaker 6: was a late add to the injury was on the

731
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Speaker 6: injury Yes, he was questionable with left foot soreness, but

732
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Speaker 6: he is available as of the official injury report tonight.

733
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Speaker 2: Interesting and uh, you mentioned Dillingham is questionable tonight, but

734
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Speaker 2: it has nothing to do.

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Speaker 6: I won't go there with I think you got he's twenty.

736
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Speaker 6: I'm not giving up on it. And it hasn't worked

737
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Speaker 6: out as much.

738
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Speaker 2: There's no way they thought two years in they didn't

739
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Speaker 2: couldn't feel comfortable having him play ten minutes a game.

740
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Speaker 3: There's just no chance. And they they're not comfortable playing

741
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: him ten minutes a game. That's true. That's the position there.

742
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Speaker 2: They're going to make a move. I guarantee you there

743
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: will be a movie guarantee you. I don't think there's

744
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Speaker 2: any and it may but it may not be a

745
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Speaker 2: sexy move. But there are players. See, Johnny's got me

746
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: going with the kid, the Pacers kid. What's his name, Mathrin? Yeah,

747
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: pronounce that man that see. I think that would be

748
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: a massive win and upgrade for the team.

749
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Speaker 3: But I have no idea if he's even available. But

750
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Speaker 3: I love that kid.

751
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: I think theofs outstanding and he give him He would

752
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: give them a little bit at that added dimension and

753
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: definitely as a streaky scorer, but he can score a

754
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: little bit.

755
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Speaker 6: He's got some ability. You think we could prime out

756
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Speaker 6: of Indianapolis. Nobody wants to leave Indy, that's the question.

757
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Speaker 2: Especially anybody have to give up and can you give

758
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Speaker 2: us because you're gonna have to give up a couple

759
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Speaker 2: of your young pieces. Probably you're not gonna give up

760
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Speaker 2: your your core. I don't think at this point you're

761
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Speaker 2: not gonna give up nas Red. I don't know if

762
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Speaker 2: you're not gonna give up Randall at this point, or

763
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Speaker 2: as I mentioned earlier, maybe we get capt back.

764
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Speaker 3: There's our depth. Be a nice piece, he'd be. That'd

765
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Speaker 3: be a big he'd be a big team at that point.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we could play four posts because Kat could play

767
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Speaker 6: point forward.

768
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Top five and five in the books.

769
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Speaker 2: A little late, but better late than ever. Back with

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Speaker 2: much more from the cage, target center. Where the fans

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Speaker 2: are lining up. Man, they are ready to go hated

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Speaker 2: rival the Chicago Bulls in town more next you're in

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Speaker 3: All right, we are back target center location places.

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Speaker 2: I mean, people are I guess that the gates are

783
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: about to open, so it's backed up pretty considerably.

784
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Speaker 3: Have I missed something about the bulls or is it

785
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 3: just that people like this team?

786
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Speaker 2: People like this team and as you snarkily mentioned, they're

787
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: trying to get ahead of the ticket increase. Yeah, they

788
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: want how they can enjoy this the team while they can. Yeah,

789
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: what did you make of what I guess we had?

790
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: We'll CEO Matt called well the new guy in town.

791
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Speaker 2: Nothing about what he said surprised me. He's he's going

792
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Speaker 2: to try to minimize them, smooth it over, whatever the

793
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Speaker 2: case may be.

794
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Speaker 6: What did you take out of that all of that? Yeah, nothing,

795
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 6: nothing necessarily surprised me. I thought he played the hits

796
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 6: with And there's facts. I know what Johnny said as well.

797
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 6: I think is accurate. It's indisputable to me. Two things

798
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Speaker 6: are both in the disputable. Yeah, and you know I'm

799
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Speaker 6: a season ticket member. Oh good for me. And as

800
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 6: I've told people, one of the reasons that I jumped

801
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 6: in a couple of years ago is because the value

802
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 6: was unbelievable. The value was ridiculous and it wasn't crazy

803
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 6: expensive even you know, for lower.

804
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Speaker 3: Level seats at the time. My season tickets.

805
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Speaker 6: Over the last for three years, whatever it's been, you know,

806
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 6: they they've gone up at least fifty percent, and so

807
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 6: you know, we've got a month to figure out what

808
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 6: we're going to do on the whole thing, because at

809
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 6: some point it does it does become you know, cost prohibitive.

810
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 6: But one of the reasons why I think that they

811
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Speaker 6: have so many loyal season ticket holders is A, the

812
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 6: team's really good, but B they did a great job

813
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Speaker 6: of getting people in here on the front end all

814
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 6: those years ago with extremely good value. And but I

815
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 6: also don't think there's even though they're still underpriced relative

816
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 6: to the NBA, I think they're going to lose some people.

817
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't think there's any questions. I do.

818
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Speaker 6: I agree with you on that, because they've gone up

819
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 6: incrementally the last few years, like in which again is

820
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 6: there right? And I get it because and I want

821
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 6: to emphasize, like when I bought season tickets, I'm like,

822
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 6: that's all that they cost, and I can sell them

823
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 6: easily at and give them to people, And I get

824
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 6: Playoff access like it made so much sense, and it's

825
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 6: been a great experience. It's been a wonderful experience. How

826
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 6: can you argue with it as a season ticket member

827
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 6: the last few years. But I definitely get how people

828
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 6: are monitoring it. And I'm lucky because mine started so

829
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 6: low that even with the percentages, it's still not like

830
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 6: an absurdly crazy number, especially relative to the rest of

831
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Speaker 6: the NBA. So but it's this one I think did

832
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 6: kind of shock some people more than the other ones have.

833
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: Well, the danger, that's always the danger of depressing your

834
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: ticket prices out of desperation, where you say, we have

835
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: no choice and we know what this is going to

836
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: set up later, but we don't care.

837
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Speaker 3: We have to do it.

838
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Speaker 2: But this is this every place where ticket prices are

839
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: compared to every place else ridiculously low. That's always, and

840
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 2: that's frankly why some places refuse to do it, because

841
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: they go, we can't do it, because once we go,

842
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: once we do this, people.

843
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: Are never gonna forget it.

844
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: They're never going to forgive us if we say, well,

845
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: now we're compensating on the other end of it. And

846
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: so you know, again, I can't blame the wolves for

847
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: doing what they're doing. Now, what you could say is

848
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 2: how many years in a row are you going to

849
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: do it right? And then how this is an actual

850
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: reset what he suggests we are you going to keep

851
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: the trend? You're going to keep the trend going. But

852
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: I also can't blame fans who are saying, wait a minute, now,

853
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: I this is this is ridiculous. This isn't New York,

854
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: this isn't California. You're you're kidding yourself if you think

855
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: I can keep up with it. And as you say,

856
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: I don't think some people are. I think they will

857
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: lose people for sure, And I got to believe that's

858
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: in their calculations and they've decided, all right, well if

859
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 2: we have to lose people for a little while, we will.

860
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: Or maybe there's other people we think that are waiting

861
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: and they've had a waiting list.

862
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and yeah, and they've had a waiting list.

863
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: But it's it. It's two forces that I think we're

864
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: in evitably going to collide at some point, and where

865
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: you know you're there was going to be a reckoning.

866
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: And so I'm not surprised that they're they're raising them.

867
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: I think more generally, and this is an ongoing discussion

868
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: around the league, is what's the tipping point across the

869
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: board where it's that's it. You didn't believe it, but no,

870
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: people can't keep paying it, and you're back to how

871
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 2: many people you lose. I mentioned the crowds at Chicago

872
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: Stadium that were so different than the United Center crowds

873
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 2: when the Bulls are in their heyday, and by the way,

874
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: the atmosphere, people loved it and because they want a lot,

875
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: but it wasn't the same crowd at all.

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Speaker 3: And you pointed this out and you can see it.

877
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Speaker 2: I think you can even see it in some of

878
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: the more expensive seats that when this resurgence took place,

879
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: there were a lot of young people, big time that

880
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 2: I felt.

881
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: And you know, I've talked about this on the air.

882
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: I've always praised links crowds for being utterly interested in

883
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: the games in a way that the beautiful people in

884
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: a lot of wolves games, wild games, et.

885
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 3: Cetera might not be.

886
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: But what I thought I saw during these last two

887
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: runs was they may be in some cases, somehow, some

888
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 2: way in the quote unquote beautiful people's seats, but.

889
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: They're into it. Oh yeah, they are young, as you say.

890
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: And they are utterly committed to watching the team evolve

891
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: and and and watching the story play out, and you know,

892
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 2: you lose, there's the risk. The risk is you're going

893
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: to lose some of those people. And what impact is

894
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: that out of an atmosphere. Now, again, it's a bottom

895
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: line business, so they may say, well, we don't care.

896
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 2: This happens everywhere and if it's if it's more the

897
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: other folks, that's what every other franchise tends to lean toward.

898
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: Well, along what you just said of the crowds.

899
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 6: Look at the two of the famous photos, the Garnett

900
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 6: scorers table photo from OH four Game seven and the

901
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 6: pat Bet Anthony Edwards game playing games. Yes photo, but

902
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 6: look at the crowds side by side.

903
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: They are so different. They are in age, ethnicities.

904
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 6: Even like people are wearing basically in O four, they're

905
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 6: wearing like what I'm wearing, just like a generic hoodie.

906
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 3: I'm just here at the game.

907
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 6: Well, there's probably like nine different Anthony Edwards jerseys, you know,

908
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,959
Speaker 6: every night, because people, it's just it's just a different deal.

909
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 6: The one place I don't agree with Matt Caldwell and

910
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 6: I don't agree with people at the University of Minnesota

911
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 6: that do this.

912
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 3: It drives me crazy.

913
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 6: When he talked about we're not just gonna, you know,

914
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 6: lower ticket prices for promotions and we're not going to

915
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 6: give compswag get while you're not going to give comps away.

916
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 6: But one thing I think the Wolves have done a

917
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 6: great job in over the years of They've never missed

918
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 6: an opportunity to tweak their marketing a little bit. Like

919
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 6: Anthony Edwards just scored whatever, ten thousand points or whatever.

920
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 6: And I think tonight was one of the nights where

921
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 6: two weeks ago on the Wolves app I got an alert.

922
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 6: It's like Anthony has ten thousand, ten dollars tickets on

923
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 6: third Like they've never missed an opportunity to do that

924
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 6: smart and I think that helps. But what he said was, well,

925
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 6: if you don't respect your brand, who will I just

926
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 6: And again I'm not the president. I don't know how

927
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 6: business works, but I can never accept that we're not

928
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 6: going to try to do everything we can to fill

929
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 6: the building, like even if we have to cut prices.

930
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 3: And this has been a Minnesota problem forever.

931
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 6: They're sick of me talking about it with them, Like

932
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 6: the I guess what's the word the ease, Not ease,

933
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 6: but the acceptance that, well, these are our prices and

934
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 6: we're going to set them and if people don't come, yeah,

935
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 6: we'll figure it out. I just I reject that because

936
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 6: I think sports are to me about atmosphere, and I

937
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 6: think you try to get as many people as he

938
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 6: possibly can, so that that I didn't. I get what

939
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 6: he was saying that you have to value and protect

940
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 6: your brand, but if you've got a couple thousand empty

941
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 6: seats every night, that seems like a missed opportunity.

942
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: The hardest part with him, and he's not going to

943
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: give away his cards on this is for me as

944
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 2: the arena, because I know there's a lot more meat

945
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: on the bone that in his vision and their vision

946
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: has to be much further along then he's willing to

947
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: say at this point, which I understand because nothing's done yet.

948
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: But that's I'm still fascinated to see where that's going

949
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: to go, how it's going to go, how feasible it is,

950
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: where they I think I want to do it, which

951
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: is really not that far from where we are right now.

952
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: Yep, and and and again.

953
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: How long I think they are realistic about saying we're

954
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: probably seven years away, right, six seven years away in

955
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: terms of being done.

956
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 3: That's a long time.

957
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 6: Will we be doing the show the new Skywaycats, Yeah,

958
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 6: that's exactly well, there be a yeah Skyway cage and

959
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 6: how how how much will that that rental.

960
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: Cost the station? And will the speakers work? And will

961
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: the speakers work? Finally, after all these years, top of

962
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 2: the Hour break, half hour yet to go, will come

963
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 2: back and then maybe even cover a couple of a

964
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: section controversies when we return, build.

965
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 3: The energy of the state of hockey.

966
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: That's a little while they're back at Grand Casino Arena

967
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: to us to speed the hits, the roar of the crowd.

968
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: Get your tickets down wild dot com, slash tickets, Wild

969
00:44:54,080 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: dot com slash tickets rank.

970
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, k Fair.

971
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 4: What do you mean?

972
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: One of my favorite follows on X and know that's

973
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: dangerous to admit to following anybody because everybody's got their

974
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: opinions and that they could you could either hate me

975
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: or admire me on the basis of any particular following

976
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: because everybody's polarizing.

977
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 3: Uh he's uh.

978
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: I think he's in the I don't know the fancy

979
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 2: title he has for fire dot Org. I think he's

980
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: a pretty straight shooter when it comes to First Mement issues,

981
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 2: and consistent enough that he ends up annoying both sharks

982
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 2: and jets on a regular basis. I don't know how

983
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: to pronounce his name. I think it's Lukanoff. It's Greg

984
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 2: is the first name. And he wrote a piece regarding

985
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 2: what's been going on in Minneapolis over recent weeks, and

986
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 2: I thought I wanted to I wanted to get into

987
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: a couple of things he mentioned because I agree with

988
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: the great deal of this he's he's attempting to sort

989
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: of cut through all the nonsense regarding what's speech that's

990
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 2: over the line, and you know what isn't and when

991
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: is the First Amendment an inaccurate or unsuccessful justification for

992
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: certain activity? As well, he writes there's plenty of as

993
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: for the protest himself. So what we see is textbook

994
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: First Amendment activity. Protesters chanting in public streets, filming law enforcement,

995
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: warning neighbors of enforced activity, criticizing policy. This is precisely

996
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 2: the kind of free speech and free assembly the First

997
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 2: Amendment was designed to protect. Nonetheless, there's plenty of unprotected

998
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: speech being improperly justified on First Amendment Amendment grounds. Since

999
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: the start of ICE operations in Minnesota in November, it's

1000
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: only well, it's only been since November. It feels like

1001
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: it's been five years. Well, I feel like December one

1002
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: was big. Yeah, you're right, that's true. Yeah, we've seen

1003
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: objects thrown at officers, crowds, pepper sprayed and tear gased

1004
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: and worse. But the extent to which the First Amendment

1005
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: is implicated in interactions between protesters and ICE agents often

1006
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: depends on how the granular details played out, which isn't

1007
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 2: always clear from the videos and testimonies. Can I repeat

1008
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: that it isn't always clear from the videos and testimonies,

1009
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: way too nuanced for most people. I get that A

1010
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: US District Judge, Catherine Menendez ruled last week that ICE

1011
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: agents can't detain or use tear gas on peaceful observers

1012
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: who haven't obstructed their operations. The a three page ruling

1013
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 2: includes countless allegations from activists and ICE officers by each

1014
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: other's conduct, many of which are egregious, and saw which

1015
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 2: are actually incompatible with others. Now, since then, I believe

1016
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: an appeals court overturned that decision as well. This I

1017
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 2: think was written before that some types of speech, like

1018
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: crowds telling ICE agents to kill themselves in the heat

1019
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 2: of a protest, might strike most people as upsetting an offensive,

1020
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: but are still protected. While the white houses claimed in

1021
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 2: such incidents are the result of a campaign of targeted

1022
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 2: harassment against federal officers, it has so far not provided

1023
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 2: evidence to that effect. It seems just as probable that

1024
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 2: those protesters were motivated by their personal dislike a federal

1025
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: law enforcement and chose a harsh way to express it.

1026
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 2: He notes that some law enforcement activity violates the First

1027
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: Amendment even though it's non physical. There are credible reports

1028
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: that ICE agents have led civilian observers back to the

1029
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: observer's homes.

1030
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 3: The message couldn't be any clearer.

1031
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: ICE knows where you live, assuming there's no law enforcement

1032
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 2: reason to go to these homes. It's a pure intimidation

1033
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: tactic designed to create a chilling effect, and the First

1034
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: Amendment is meant to protect us from that kind of

1035
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 2: retaliation for speaking out. Then, he writes, there's the moment

1036
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: where the First Amendment lesson goes completely off the rails.

1037
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: This is related to the across the river. As he

1038
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 2: writes in Saint Paul, protesters entered a church disrupted a

1039
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 2: worship service. Journalist Don Lemon filmed the event, and while

1040
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 2: interviewing a member of the congregation, was told, our church

1041
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: had gathered for worship, which we do every Sunday. We

1042
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: asked them to leave, and they obviously have not left.

1043
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: The next thing we hear is Lemon saying, quote, so

1044
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 2: this is what the First Amendment is about, to which

1045
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: look it off rights, No, it's not. The First Amendment

1046
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 2: does not grant a right to commandeer private spaces or

1047
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: force unwilling audiences in a private space into a political confrontation.

1048
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: Church is not a public form, and the actions of

1049
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 2: that group that day are not legally protected expression. They

1050
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 2: have a right to gather outside the church and protest

1051
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: on the sidewalk. By walking into a private service and

1052
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: refusing to leave, they are at a minimum trespassing, and

1053
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: in this case, the protesters displayed a flawed understanding of

1054
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: protected speech. Believing your cause is morally urgent. Let me

1055
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: repeat this. Believing your cause is morally urgent isn't a

1056
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 2: valid defense for ending a private space unlawfully to deliver

1057
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 2: a message. He goes on to note that speech is

1058
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 2: not violence, Protest is not conspiracy, criticism is not incitement,

1059
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: violence is not speech, and disruptive disruption of public private

1060
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 2: spaces is not protests. And when we blur those lines,

1061
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 2: we don't advance justice. We empower whoever currently has the

1062
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 2: authority to determine what those words mean.

1063
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: Very well written.

1064
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 2: I think he's the president and CEO of Fire, co

1065
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: author of a book called The Coddling of the American

1066
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: Mind and the Canceling of the American Mind as well.

1067
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 2: I agree with all that Now today, I think among

1068
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 2: the organizers the Church of Protest, Nikima Levy Pounds was arrested,

1069
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: and one of the allegations I have been able to

1070
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: fact check, although I think you told me, or maybe

1071
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 2: it was somebody else who told me that, in effect,

1072
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: the White House has almost confirmed what they've done. That

1073
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: there's a photo of Levy Pounds being arrested, the real photo,

1074
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 2: and then there's an AI photo in which she appears

1075
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: to be crying that the White House allegedly dropped as

1076
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: in sent out, and the story seems to be that

1077
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: they are perfectly willing. They said, well, we're we're going

1078
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 2: to do a couple of things.

1079
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 3: We're going to do.

1080
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 2: We're going to send out the photos, and then we're

1081
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 2: going to do We're you're gonna be ready, We're gonna

1082
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 2: do more memes, which almost would seem to confirm that

1083
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,439
Speaker 2: we're doing exactly what we're going to do. They don't

1084
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: care at this point if you try to make any

1085
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: draw the importance of the distinctions that if you're representing

1086
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: the government and you think you're trying to hold an

1087
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 2: individual accountable for that protest, and we can debate and

1088
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: argue about all of that strategically in a minute, that

1089
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: that's too There is a step to take to memeify it, right,

1090
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 2: to turn it into that sort of thing. But I

1091
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 2: almost hesitate saying it because in that world of performance,

1092
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: it's no one, no one. I shouldn't say no one.

1093
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 2: The folks who are going down this road are gonna

1094
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: revel in it. They're gonna say, well, they they meme

1095
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: us all the time. So there's no meaningful distinction. So

1096
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: I don't even know why it may not even be

1097
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 2: worth bothering, correct right, I know that's sort of the

1098
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 2: position we're in, unfortunately at this point, and strategically here's

1099
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: what's interesting. I don't know if you agree. Maybe there

1100
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 2: are a lot of listeners who don't agree with this.

1101
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what the line is. I believe and

1102
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: Kesser and I talked about this yesterday, that a line

1103
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: was crossed going and going inside the church and bothering

1104
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: people who had every right to be offended by what

1105
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: was done. It's not the only story that needs to

1106
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 2: be covered. In fact, let's be hones honest. The notion

1107
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: that once you talk about this story right now at

1108
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 2: the text line, it's but what about what about what

1109
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 2: Ice is doing? And you can say we've been talking

1110
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: about ICE's tactics being over the line for weeks, but

1111
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: in that moment it won't matter. It's like, well, why

1112
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 2: are you talking about this at all? Because it is relevant,

1113
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 2: because I think it's germane Strategically, do you not run

1114
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: the risk in arresting her of creating more of a

1115
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: martyr out of her anyway and actually elevating the protest

1116
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 2: to a bigger place as opposed to We're just gonna

1117
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: move on, We're gonna criticize it, we're gonna move on

1118
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: with the rest of our lives.

1119
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 3: You know what, I mean I do.

1120
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 2: That's strategically to me, the danger of all right, yeah,

1121
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 2: we're you know, we're gonna arrest her, we're gonna have

1122
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: a purp walk where she's got I didn't know she

1123
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 2: was cuffed in the photo or not. I'm not sure,

1124
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 2: but that's to me why sometimes if you're thinking about

1125
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: strategy sadly politicizing this, then I'm not even sure that

1126
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: that's a wise move to do, because I think that's

1127
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: just carrying the story forward word for now a longer

1128
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: period of time than it might have been covered previously.

1129
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 3: But do they even care. No, they don't. That's the thing.

1130
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 3: They probably what I.

1131
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 6: Always just keep coming back to, like or anybody's mind's

1132
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 6: going to be changed from what they believe right now

1133
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 6: either side either way on this thing, and so everybody

1134
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 6: just kind of digs in and they do what they

1135
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 6: want to do.

1136
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: I've always felt you're better maintaining the high road or

1137
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 2: the higher road, and once you go down the road

1138
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 2: that you start infilt trading places because you've identified an

1139
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 2: individual who's associated with, in this case, that church, you

1140
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 2: lose a little of your higher ground and you can say, yeah,

1141
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: but this is different. We got to make a point,

1142
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 2: and by God we got to You can do it,

1143
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: but I actually think in the public eye, you make

1144
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 2: it easier to distract from people concentrating on the number

1145
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 2: of times in the number of situations in which ice

1146
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: has been well over the line. Well, break, come back,

1147
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: wrap up, a very busy program, give you some highlights

1148
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 2: and even perhaps some low lights.

1149
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 3: Next it's the Bumper to Bumper show. Wrap could line

1150
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 3: up today.

1151
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: That included an appearance very early in the show with

1152
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 2: Fox nine Weather superstar Ian Leonard, who actually I thought

1153
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: did a very good job trying to help us understand

1154
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: the larger weather phenomenon that is leading to what seems

1155
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: to be a fairly historic set of conditions, not just

1156
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: so much necessarily here with the windshill, but through much

1157
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 2: of the southern part of the United States, the unusual

1158
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 2: combination of this time of year, some of these storms

1159
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 2: usually being rain and in this time being ice and

1160
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 2: snow going of you know, very far south, including Atlanta, Washington,

1161
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 2: d C. Is supposed to get like a foot of snow,

1162
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: which is pretty rare, I think.

1163
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 6: So that was early in the broadcast. He listed like

1164
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 6: eight states that don't have a wind weather.

1165
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 2: Including the one you were at Oregon was one of

1166
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 2: them thinking watch the state Washington State, yep?

1167
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 3: Or two of them? What was that?

1168
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 2: Followed by Johnny Athletic washn Salisbury. Salisbury was a three thirty.

1169
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: We had a good discussion with him, not just about

1170
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 2: the playoffs, but about the Viking's future at the quarterback

1171
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: position and an interesting name that he offered up as

1172
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: being one worthy of at least their consideration. In addition,

1173
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: Johnny Athletic joined in studio. Who am I forgetting? Oh

1174
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 2: Alan Horton he joined in studio. When I say studio

1175
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: in our Target Center booth studio, The new CEO of

1176
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 2: the Minnesota timb Rolves, Matt Caldwell, gave us a half

1177
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: hour between five and five thirty tomorrow is Friday. And

1178
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: Derek and Derek Shelton, they they waved, They walked by

1179
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 2: and waved. You should have brought him in, I know,

1180
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 2: but that's okay. We just had the new manager not

1181
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 2: that long ago.

1182
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 3: Yep.

1183
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 2: They looked like they were celebrating the big is it Taylor.

1184
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 6: Roch Rogers is Taylor Rodgers two million bucks?

1185
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 3: Two million a year?

1186
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 6: Which is that's our speed? If you you say two million. Yeah,

1187
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 6: we'll raise our hand old thirty five. Yeah, yeah, come on,

1188
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 6: we'll take a shot. Yeah, here we go, very very true, Davy.

1189
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 6: So tomorrow is uh predictions with Gerby?

1190
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 3: We assume.

1191
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, it sounds like from his social media he's back.

1192
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 6: He's Oh, he's no longer tail between the legs. I

1193
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 6: guess yeah.

1194
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:22,959
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1195
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 6: He responded to some people shockingly right after the Bears

1196
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 6: were eliminated from the postseason.

1197
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 3: That changed everything, seemed like it. Yeah, that was a

1198
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 3: heck of a Caleb throw. United get to talk about it.

1199
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 3: What I mean, that's just absurd.

1200
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 2: Well, you know, the other the underrated part about it

1201
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: two is and and Salivery talked about this, it's almost

1202
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 2: impossible to get him down. Yes, I think the hidden,

1203
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: the sneaky part of him isn't just elusiveness, but he is.

1204
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 3: He's strong.

1205
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 2: I think his lower body is reasonably strong. Yeah, that

1206
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 2: throw you can't make up. I mean, you just can't

1207
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: make up that play. Unfortunately, as we talked about later

1208
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 2: with Sean, I do think the interception was a bit reckless,

1209
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: even if that's sort of part of who he is,

1210
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: because they're in a position there where if they just

1211
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: play it I thought observatively, I thought it was over

1212
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: me too. It felt like it was over when they

1213
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: got to the fifty and I think that was a

1214
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: first down throw. I'm not mistaken. I do not think

1215
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: that was that they needed that pass to be completed.

1216
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 2: But in any case, we'll talk predictions Ben Gestling tomorrow,

1217
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 2: and I'm pretty sure Lavelle will be part of the

1218
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 2: festivities tomorrow as well.

1219
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that truly should be.

1220
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: Unless is there any reason to believe that the willing

1221
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 2: wind showill be so bad tomorrow that we will be

1222
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: knocked off the air?

1223
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 3: Does that? Does that ever happen?

1224
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 5: Do we?

1225
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 2: Can we just say we don't want to travel anywhere

1226
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: because of the weather.

1227
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 3: Can we get away with that? Not? Really? I didn't

1228
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 3: think so. Yeah, we really can.

1229
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 6: That's the problem, unless like a tree explodes on our transmitter.

1230
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be the one. We'reption to that as well.

1231
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 2: So that's all a part of the festivities for tomorrow.

1232
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 2: I felt like I had something else to finish with,

1233
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 2: but I cannot remember what it is. The worst of

1234
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: the windshill. I think its supposed to be to night

1235
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: into tomorrow morning, right like minus.

1236
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 3: Or something.

1237
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: Tomorrow stops say those schools are open, and I don't

1238
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 2: think this if this is true, this is I think

1239
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: should be mentioned again.

1240
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 3: It's going to stay cold.

1241
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 2: But if the winds died down, which I think he

1242
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 2: said they were going to as the day went on,

1243
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 2: that does make a big difference.

1244
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 3: Of course, there's no questions about that.

1245
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 2: But you know, because then the old real feel I

1246
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 2: mean minus ten feels bad.

1247
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 3: I mean it hurts.

1248
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 2: You don't want to have a lot of bare skin.

1249
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 2: But if the winds blowing whistling at like thirty two

1250
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 2: miles per hour doesn't help out of the northwest, and

1251
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 2: that changes everything as well. Uh.

1252
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 3: That's the music.

1253
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 2: I assume it's fan of the Man in the Air tonight, yes,

1254
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,959
Speaker 2: and then Wild Hockey late on the fan start.

1255
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 6: If you're interesting, it should be doing an extended pregame,

1256
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 6: but he never does that.

1257
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 3: He should be doing seven to eight ever.

1258
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 2: Ever does Timberwolves Bulls tonight. That's why we're here. Ostensibly

1259
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 2: that can be heard on the Timberwolves channel. That's a

1260
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 2: regular time seven o'clock. I'm assuming six forty five pre game,

1261
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 2: not exactly sure, but that's on the free free free

1262
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app and the Wolves channel. In particular, I want

1263
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 2: to go for men play again Saturday morning against Hoiberg.

1264
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. And next when's the next one?

1265
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 6: Women's Sunday against Wisconsin back at home, the red hot

1266
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 6: Badgers hated rivals.

1267
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question. Thanks for watching, Thank you for listening.

1268
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 2: We will talk to you tomorrow.

1269
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 6: Beginning of three