1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Station East Coast Subs since e three sixty of bount 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Cincinnati from Cincinnati, sponsored in part by Penn Station East 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: Coast Subs. Handcrafted hot grilled subs, fresh cut fries and lemonade. 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: It's all about good taste. Penn Station East Coast Subs 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: order online today. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: Welcome back. We're rolling along our number three thanks to 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: Penn Station on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Uh, 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: appreciate you listening in. Let's take this to our guy, 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: Bob man Jean from the University of Cincinnati and Nova 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: Care joining us each and every week as he does 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: right now. 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: Bob, how are you Tony having another great data on 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 3: here in Derrik Catland, you know, getting ready for basketball 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 3: practice and you know in two weeks we scrimmaged Michigan 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: up in ann Arbor, so it's exciting times on campus. 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: Plus we're playing Iowa State on Saturday. 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: My big question for you, Bob, and you know, I 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: know we're going to get to an injury point of 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: view here, but eight years ago today the inception of 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: Sincy three to sixty happened. It is our anniversary of 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: Sincy three sixty today. I just wanted to know from you, 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: how has Cincy three to sixty changed your life? 23 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 3: Great question. It's an unbelievable show. I have fun on it. 24 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 3: I get to listen to it when I'm in the car. 25 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 3: Some of your features, obviously I can't say your gambling 26 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: feature or your Picks of the week is my favorite, 27 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: only because I'm not allowed to participate. But some of 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 3: the callback responses that your people give are interesting. And 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: one of these days I'm going to leave a callback 30 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: and say something stupid like some of the other people do. 31 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that, Bob. What I want to 32 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: ask you is you kind of just alluded to it. 33 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: People are so entrenched in football season that's happening right now, 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: that you kind of get caught sometimes with how close 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: the basketball season is. And for some athletes that's the 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: case when you start talking about club sports or AAU 37 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: while they're alsco also playing for their high school team. 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: When you start talking about playing multiple sports, that maybe 39 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: cross over at once. Where is the line drawn? Because 40 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 2: there are so many people that say play as many 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: sports as you can because it's good for you, there's 42 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: also that line that we've talked about of making sure 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: you allow your body to rest. How do you walk 44 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: that line when you are trying to do two different 45 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: things and juggle at once. 46 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: That's a great question only because, as he said, you know, 47 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: we're preaching now to parents and athletes alike that this 48 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: whole concept of specialization too early in their sports careers 49 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: is not good. These teams should be playing multiple sports. 50 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: You know, basketball players should be you know, participating in baseball, 51 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: and baseball should be participating in you know, track and field, 52 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 3: et cetera. And again, I think the whole concept of 53 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 3: having these athletes some specialized too early, and to me, 54 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 3: the two biggest groups that really abuse this are basketball 55 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 3: and baseball. I think too many parents you know, want 56 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: to just put their kids in one sport. And part 57 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: of it is, you know, it's easy, you know, I 58 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: only have to deal with one sport rather than trying 59 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: to get my kids around the gymnastics or swim and 60 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: dive or soccer. But the problem becomes you have to 61 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: have a fine line. I can let my kids play 62 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: you know, summer soccer and then come back and let 63 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: them play football in the fall, and then come back 64 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: and let them play you know, basketball in the in 65 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: the spring or whatever, baseball in the spring. I think, 66 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: if you you need to let the kids play multiple sports. 67 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: But at the same time, it goes the other way. 68 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: I had a kid in the other day who's playing 69 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: you know, soccer this time of year. She's playing volleyball 70 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: at the same time, and you know then she's going 71 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 3: to go right back into basketball. Now you're talking overload. 72 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: You're talking about a a fourteen fifteen year old kid 73 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: who's trying to play three sports that all overlap for 74 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 3: about a month. And that's not good for your body either. 75 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 3: You know. It's like most high school kids, if they 76 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: play football, I have to take off a five day 77 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 3: six day period after football before they're allowed to play basketball. 78 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 3: Or if you're playing basketball in high school, you generally 79 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 3: have to have a four or five rest day period 80 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: before you're allowed to play baseball or you know, go 81 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: on to track and field. So but there are some 82 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 3: sports that are naturally i'll say aligned. So if I'm 83 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: got a football player and they're a skilled football player, 84 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 3: my old role at Comingy Catholic would be, well, let's 85 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: run track and field in the spring. Or if it 86 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 3: were a kid who is an offensive defensive lineman, maybe 87 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: throw shot or even wrestled in the offseason. Quarterbacks, you know, 88 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: let's go pitch in the spring, so that there's a 89 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: natural evolution of, you know, the sports that actually align 90 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: with each other. And I think that's the whole premise 91 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: of letting a kid play multiple sports. But if you 92 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,559 Speaker 3: get a six, seven, eight year old and you say, okay, 93 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: we're gonna play basketball, then we're gonna play summer AAU. 94 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: Then we're gonna play elementary school, then we're going to 95 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 3: play high school, and we're basketball basketball, basketball, I don't 96 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: recruit a kid today, well I don't do the recruiting, 97 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 3: but I'm stuck with him. I get players today that 98 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: have come to us in college and they've already had 99 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: three four injuries before they even get here, and most 100 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: of them occur during AAU in the summer, more so 101 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: than any other time of year. So I think you 102 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: have that fine line where I want my kids to 103 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: play multiple sports. And my kids played soccer, they've tried swimming, 104 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 3: they all played either hockey or football, so that you know, 105 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: they did a variety of things, and then by the 106 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 3: time they got to be a freshman in high school. 107 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: You know, I would then say, okay, let's focus on 108 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: one or two and one played hockey and one played baseball, 109 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: and the other ones played football and maybe did a 110 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: little track or wrestling activity. So we have to sub 111 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: We've got to let them have some freedom to play 112 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: with that getting too sub specialized too early. 113 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 2: How important then if they are having that freedom to 114 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: play multiple sports and you're active and you're always on 115 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: the go, go go, How important do the things that 116 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: maybe young kids are overlooking, sleep, recovery, stretching, How important 117 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: do those things become to the athlete, and how important 118 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 2: it is for the parents or the guardians to be 119 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: able to look out for that and push that to 120 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: the kids as well well. 121 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: Number One, recovery is way underperformed in this country. Recovery 122 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: is just not done enough by the athletes, push enough 123 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: or you know, in most cases, you know, unless you 124 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: played at the collegiate level or played at the professional level. 125 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: You know, how does the average parent know about recovery? 126 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 3: You know, And the bottom line is like you know, 127 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: using maybe contrast or you know, getting in the cold 128 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: tubs after they play, or this country's horrible when it 129 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: comes to stretching, I would say if you look at football, 130 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 3: you look at college basketball, eighty percent of the players 131 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: have no clue even at that level coming out of 132 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: high schooler A and you how to stretch. They're all tight. 133 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: They don't spend enough time working their mobility. Mobility starts 134 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: at ain't nine ten years old. Strength training starts at 135 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: ain't nine ten years old. And when I mean strength training, 136 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: I'm not talking about getting them in the wink room 137 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: and weight around, but simple things that like bandit programming 138 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: or working with somebody who might be a certified strength 139 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: coach who can get them into both mobility and strength 140 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: training and landing mechanics. People say to me all the time, 141 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: well one of these little girls fourteen fifteen, sixteen years 142 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: old have so many injuries. Well think about it. Let's 143 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: say I sub specialized. I want to be a soccer 144 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: player or a lacrosse player. I play you know, summer 145 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: AAU programming, your own DP Olympic development programming. Then I 146 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: go right into high school. Then I come out and 147 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: play right in the indoor, then I go right back 148 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 3: to spring outdoor. When are you taking off? I mean 149 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: you played football right, you know, as soon as the 150 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: season over where was your butt? Your butt was in 151 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: the weight room for the next three months, four months, 152 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: and then when we had off in the summer, where 153 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: where were you were in the weight room? These we 154 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: got high school girls that come into PLoud On campus 155 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: who came to pick up a forty five pound bar 156 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 3: because they've never been told to lift before. So, you know, 157 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 3: the bottom line is, until we teach these kids' mobility, 158 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: how to move, do some strengths training with them, the 159 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: injury rate is not changing. You look at the little 160 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: kids with owner collateral ligament injuries in the elbow from throwing. 161 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: They've thrown too much. Okay, here's a newsflash. You're overloading. 162 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: You're too young of an age. You can't load that 163 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 3: much that fast. And so you know, the parents have 164 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: to protect their The whole idea of being a parent 165 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: is to protect your kid. The whole idea of a 166 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: parent isn't to make your kid the next Nolan Ryan, 167 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: you know. And the bottom line is these parents have 168 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: dollar bills in their eyes because they think my kid's 169 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: going to sign the next nil contract, or they're going 170 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: to get the next scholarship. You want them to get 171 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: the scholarship, or you want them to get the nil money, 172 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 3: you better make sure they stay healthy. And to stay 173 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: healthy means forget always worrying about what's wort they're playing. 174 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: You need to get them into with somebody who really 175 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 3: knows how to lift, who really knows how to work 176 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: on mobility, and get them in better shape and that 177 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: reduces the raising risk. Otherwise by the time we get 178 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 3: him in college. Heck, are females in college can't even 179 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: take a bar up off the ground because you've never 180 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: been in a weight room? Yep. 181 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: Obviously something that needs to be taken into accountability. Bob, 182 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: as always, thank you so much for your time. Enjoy 183 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: the week. College basketball right around the corner, a huge 184 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: game in Niffert Stadium on Saturday. As always, we appreciate 185 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: your time. 186 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 3: Are you in the box on Saturday? Are you on 187 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: the side? 188 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: Back on the sideline, Baby, back on the sideline. 189 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: I'll see on the sideline Tony. 190 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: Out of work. 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