1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: Mike or Michael. 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 2: Hey, I hope you get this for tomorrow Morning show. 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 3: One time I was southbound on I twenty five in 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 3: the number two lane, somewhere around Centennial, going about seventy 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 3: five miles an hour, and a lady and a beamer 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 3: came by me with a baby in her arms, breastfeeding, 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 3: and she motored by me like I was standing still. 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: Wait, wait a minute. 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 4: You you, sir, were at the twenty five in Centennial, 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 4: which is like right over here if you were done 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 4: seventy five, which I shouldn't say anything, because I left 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 4: a meeting yesterday and was going down twenty five headed 13 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 4: two home so we could go to dinner, and I 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 4: happened to look down and during it was amazing. During 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 4: rush hour, it was all moving around seventy five miles an. 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: Hour in this feedlnit over there sixty five, I don't. 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 4: Even know if it's sixty five, I'd be fifty five 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 4: right over there. 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that are fifty five because you're talking 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: the curves, but I think you get further south. Yeah, 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: pops up to seventy five. 22 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 4: But that's that's a perfect talk back because it encompasses 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 4: everything that you and I as teenagers, enjoy one. It's 24 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 4: it's it's a BMW, so we know the joke about 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 4: you know, porcupying pricks and we and then it's a 26 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 4: woman breastfeeding in a BMW at more than seventy five 27 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 4: miles an hour a long eye twenty five And of 28 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 4: course our listeners are observing and watching and have to 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 4: come back twenty four hours after we talk about something 30 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 4: because they can't let it go. Speaking, we can't let 31 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 4: it go. I have in my I don't know whether 32 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 4: I've used this term over here yet or not, but 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 4: I have every day, I have a POS. It's a 34 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 4: pile of stuff stuff, that's right, I have a pliless stuff. 35 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 4: And in my POS today is and Gina just finished 36 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: the news story about it about Excel, and I saw 37 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 4: it coming in today on the overhead signs something about 38 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: be prepared for blackouts and then something about be sure 39 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 4: and treat a dark intersection as a four way stop. 40 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 4: And I'm thinking two things. Can you guess the two 41 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 4: things I'm thinking up? One that first line just should 42 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 4: should have just said be prepared for blackouts, should just 43 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 4: said we are California. And then the second line said, 44 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 4: did you ever take driver's head, because I was taught 45 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 4: that you always treat a four way you know, a 46 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 4: intersection with lights and the lights are out, you treat 47 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 4: it as a four way stop. And by the way, 48 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 4: let me remind everybody, the person on the right has 49 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 4: the right of way, and if you both arrive at 50 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 4: the same time, the person on the right has the 51 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 4: right of way. And don't be that one jack wagon 52 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 4: that sits there and then tries to get you to 53 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 4: go ahead and move when it's their right away. 54 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: Drives me nuts. 55 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: I mean what they're trying to be polite, and. 56 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 4: They're trying to be polite to what they're doing, and 57 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 4: by trying to be polite, they're screwing up the whole 58 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 4: way it's supposed to work. 59 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: Oh, it drives me not Oh just oh just go ahead, 60 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: go ahead, No, it's your right away. 61 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: Oh and so then you look, you know, I give 62 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 4: them that, you know, as if they can even see 63 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: my eyes, I just give them that look like freaking 64 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: angry eyes. But I'm not going to talk about excel 65 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 4: until maybe later in the program mid little research yesterday. 66 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: Uh oh yeah, because because you know the talk back 67 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 4: that you know said, hey, you want to take back 68 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 4: anything you said about you know, fires and. 69 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 70 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 4: I did a little research, uh oh on. But as 71 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 4: you may or may not know, and if you don't know, 72 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 4: you really ain't paying attention. They they captured, they found 73 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 4: the body of the shooter from Brown University, and of 74 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: course the news can't let it go because now, oh, 75 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 4: what's the motive and you know, what's going on in 76 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 4: Portugal and what was the relationship between this guy and 77 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 4: his fellow student when they were in studying in Portugal? 78 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 4: And you know, and you know, there was a two 79 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: hour press conference last night, which I guess was a 80 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 4: real cluster, you know what. 81 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: And everybody, you know, everybody's all. 82 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: Around that I think we might be missing something important 83 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: about Brown University. 84 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: On December thirteenth. 85 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 4: Brown University became the latest elite campus, an IVY League 86 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 4: school to learn a brutal lesson, and that is that 87 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 4: your governing philosophies don't stop bullets. Two students were killed, 88 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 4: nine were wounded inside the shooting in that engineering building 89 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 4: I think it's called Barrison Holly Hall or something. Investigators 90 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 4: say that the government who killed himself or they say 91 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 4: killed himself yesterday. But I don't know how they know 92 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 4: that unless they've got some sort of medical examiner report. Anyway, 93 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 4: they found him dead in a story shit. He fled 94 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 4: the campus on foot into the surrounding neighborhood. In the 95 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 4: days after the shooting, the cops leaned heavily on off 96 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 4: campus residential and business footage because there were so few 97 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 4: surveillance cameras in and around the classroom building where the 98 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: shooting occurred. While the Providence Police Department Brown was obviously 99 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 4: located in Providence, Rhode Island, and the FBI continued the 100 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 4: manhunt manhunt and the broader investigation, the spotlight really started 101 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 4: to swing toward something that universities hate. What exactly was 102 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 4: Brown University prioritizing in the name of campus safety. I 103 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 4: think it's appropriate that now we talk about this. I 104 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 4: don't want to talk about the shooter. Don't want to 105 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: talk about his motive. They'll find out that somehow, and 106 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: everybody's like, oooh, what's the motive? What's the mode? Will 107 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 4: you will? Okay, well, hang around, you'll soon find out. 108 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: But how about the choices that Brown University made, and 109 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: that those choices were in plaid site for years? At 110 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: an elite IVY League school, and that now look like 111 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 4: what it would I would describe it as a blueprint 112 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: raceoft target. Here's some deeps you need to know. The 113 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 4: top campus safety official at Brown University is a Yahoo 114 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: by the name of Rodney Chapman. He's the university's Vice 115 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 4: president for Public Safety and Emergency Management, and he's the 116 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 4: head of Brown's public safety department. 117 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 5: Now. 118 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 4: When the university first announced his appointment as the first 119 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 4: vice president for campus Safety, which happened in July twenty 120 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 4: twenty one, the university truly actually framed the role not 121 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 4: only as operational policing, but as a oh these words 122 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 4: just make my heart flutter, as a community facing project. 123 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 4: And that community facing project, remember this is July twenty 124 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 4: twenty one, just after George Floyd all that, you know, 125 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: the mostly peaceful summer of July twenty twenty. 126 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: You know, a year later, in July twenty twenty one. 127 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: They have a community facing project and in the announcement 128 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 4: they emphasize that this new Goober not not goober, This 129 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 4: new Yahoo brought a community focused approach. 130 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: Oh, community focused approach. 131 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 4: Transparency and accountability, and a track record of quote building 132 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 4: strong relationships with campus community members, including and especially those 133 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 4: from underrepresented groups. 134 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: What like dead students? Is that who you're representing? Or shooters? 135 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 4: I mean, who exactly are the underrepresented groups that you're 136 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 4: all concerned about. The announcement also said that he has 137 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 4: forthright views on the need to address the issues of 138 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 4: bias in law enforcement. 139 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 6: Wow. 140 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 4: I think he's really focused on safety right now. The 141 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 4: heart of the argument the Chapman was in effect a 142 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 4: values first selection because Brown did not merely hire a 143 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 4: police executive. It hired a public safety leader whose role was, 144 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 4: to quote, according to Brown University itself, to sustain a 145 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 4: community in which students, faculty, and staff are treated with 146 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 4: respect and provided equal access to employment and educational resources 147 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 4: in a setting to find by a commitment to well being, 148 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 4: safety and security. What a load of crap, What an 149 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 4: absolute load of crap. Now, if you believe that the 150 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 4: primary failure mode of campus police is community distrust, I 151 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 4: think the framework I just described might just be responsible 152 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 4: for that. And if you believe the primary failure Brown 153 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 4: is physical vulnerability because they had uncontrolled access, they had 154 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 4: blind camera coverage, they had lagging alerts, then Brown looks 155 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 4: like a university wide experiment that kind of pushed out 156 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: very basic security something that oh, I don't know, maybe 157 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 4: even the under Secretary of Home Land Security might be 158 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 4: awareof to understand why this feels like some kind of 159 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 4: reckoning or should be a reckoning, but the cabal will 160 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 4: probably keep it from being that. Let's go back to 161 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 4: twenty sixteen. That year is when Brown released its Diversity 162 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 4: and Inclusion Action Plan. Oh, the Diversity and Inclusion Action Plan, 163 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 4: that's a campus wide strategy. It was buried in and 164 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 4: buried in the plan's institutional commitments was a direct reference 165 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 4: to the Department of Public Safety. They wanted to expand 166 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 4: the Department of Public Safety, Law Enforcement, campus security. What 167 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 4: was their main focus? To expand diversity and inclusion training 168 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 4: for public safety that's identified as part of the plan's 169 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 4: main action items. In other words, the DEI framework didn't 170 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 4: just live over in the academic departments. It didn't live 171 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 4: over there in student life. It its tentacles went all 172 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 4: the way into campus policing. And it didn't stop there. No, 173 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 4: Because DEI is like some sort of it's it's like 174 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: pancreatic it's it's it's truly a matas sizing cancer Brown's 175 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 4: very own public safety and emergency management materials highlight that 176 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 4: it's diversity, diversity oriented. That's one of the commitments that's 177 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 4: core to the department's identity and practice, including a formal 178 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 4: commitment to a diversity Commitment value statement. So they ran 179 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 4: student listening sessions. Oh yes, Oh I love listening sessions 180 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 4: because they wanted to tie police, community relations, and campus 181 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 4: safety programming to their DEI program. So they invited students 182 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 4: to learn about the safety plan and to provide feedback. 183 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: Now you kind of cobble all of those pieces together 184 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 4: and you get an institutional posture that's pretty clear. Since 185 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, Brown University has treated campus security not as 186 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 4: deterrence and when needed, rapid response, but as a singular 187 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: domain for DEI aligned governance, which include training, messaging, community 188 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 4: partnership structures all meant to shape how the policing is perceived, 189 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 4: not necessarily well, and I guess I could say how 190 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 4: it's experienced also, So what did the shooting reveal. Let's 191 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 4: start with surveillance. 192 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: There were. 193 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 4: There were very few cameras in the engineering building where 194 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 4: the attack occurred, despite the campus actually having extensive camera 195 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 4: coverage overall, I guess they just don't care about engineers, 196 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 4: or if they maybe they just ran out of money 197 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 4: because they were paying everybody else to you know, to 198 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 4: the highest salaries. Man, we don't have any money. We 199 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,119 Speaker 4: just won't put any cameras over there because they're the engineers. 200 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 4: Nobody cares about the engineers. Now, if you know, if 201 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 4: there was a law school, you know, the lawyers would 202 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 4: go to kill all the lawyers first. You know, we'll we'll, 203 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 4: we'll not put the cameras there. No, they don't do anything. 204 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: They're out. 205 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 4: They had an outdoor siren system, or some people like 206 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 4: to say a sirreen. They had a siren system. It 207 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 4: was designed to warn the campus community and life threatening emergencies, 208 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 4: and it was you know, you hear the siren, that 209 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 4: was your signal to shelter in place. But Brown's president 210 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 4: said the siren system would. 211 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: Not be activated. Listen closely. 212 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 4: They would not activate it for an active shooter situation 213 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 4: because that might send people rushing toward the danger zone. Now, 214 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: if you know anything about Brown University, it's like a 215 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 4: little postage stamp inside the middle of a very wealthy community. 216 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 4: So if you hear a siren go off, on the 217 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 4: campus or are you going to run toward the middle 218 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 4: of the campus or are you gonna run because I've 219 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 4: heard many people describe I've been on Brown maybe once 220 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 4: or twice in my entire life, that you could probably 221 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 4: cross the entire campus in ten minutes or less. 222 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: So if the sirens go off, are you. 223 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 4: Gonna run onto the campus or you're gonna run away 224 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 4: from the campus. Yeah, But the president of Brown University says, oh, 225 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 4: we you know, we don't want to use the siren 226 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 4: in an ACTI shooter situation because well, people might you know, 227 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 4: react the wrong way and run toward the danger. I 228 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 4: thought cops were supposed to run toward the danger. Now, 229 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 4: I know you can disagree about the sirens. I don't care, 230 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 4: but if you get kind of where I'm going before 231 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 4: I take a break here, Notice what all this implies 232 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 4: at the moment that there was a maximum need for 233 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 4: honest to goodness safety and security. Brown's emergency signaling tools 234 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 4: were either not used or they saw them as ill 235 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 4: suited for the scenario they appear on paper to address. 236 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 4: So let's don't sound an alarm, Let's don't you know, 237 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 4: let's don't worry about you know, we got cameras, except 238 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 4: we got blind spots and all of that. So that 239 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 4: leads to an awful lot of operation questions, coverage, access, 240 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 4: the alerting doctrine, and I guarante an to you none 241 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 4: of that's gonna get sold by calling the students together, 242 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: calling the community together, and having a listening session. Yes, 243 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 4: our little listening session will continue after this. 244 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 5: So is today the last day of the year for 245 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 5: the Brownie and Dragon Show? Are you coming back January second? 246 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 5: January fifth? Give us all the details please. 247 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't know it'd be lucky if they invite us 248 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: back at all. 249 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 4: I know, uh, yeah, it'll be January fifth. 250 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. 251 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 4: First of all, my vacation is through the thirty first. 252 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 4: That's New Year's Eve, which I think is a company holiday. 253 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. 254 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 4: I know New Year's Day is why we're not gonna 255 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 4: come back and just work that Friday. 256 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you have to use a vacation in 257 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: the new year, so you've already starting off the new 258 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: year with a vacation day spent. 259 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: Okay. 260 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 4: I don't know whether it's say anything publicly about this 261 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 4: or not. But I went into correct because I didn't 262 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 4: realize that that Friday was in there. I mean, I 263 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 4: had not included that Friday. So I went in there 264 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 4: and included that Friday, and the system took it out 265 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 4: of this year. Don't say anything? What don't say? 266 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you is it too late for 267 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: me to do that? I mean, because I didn't want 268 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: to use one for next year on just one day 269 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: that that first Friday. It's like, it's a Friday, it 270 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. I can't remember, So I just figured 271 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: i'd come in work. But if it's taken off of 272 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: this year now, well. 273 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. 274 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 4: And again I don't know because I know that you know, 275 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 4: I've got that little deal, so I don't know whether 276 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 4: it's miscalculating. 277 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: Or what it was doing. 278 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, computers in math, do you really trust it? 279 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: Well, it's yeah, this is one of the few times 280 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 2: I've actually taken two weeks off. 281 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 4: I'm pretty excited about it because that means I don't 282 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 4: have to see Yahoo back there. 283 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 2: That's great. 284 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: We got what two and a half hours ago, and 285 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: then we don't have to see each other for two weeks. 286 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 4: I know. Glorious I'm already in a good mood, actually 287 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 4: happy to see my family. I can't say my family's 288 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 4: going to be happy to see me. I'm going to 289 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 4: be happy to see them, So you know, that's a 290 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 4: win for me. Back to Brown University last fall the fault, 291 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 4: this is just past fall, two campus police unions issued 292 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 4: votes and no confidence in Vice President Chapman. In fact, 293 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 4: the no confidence votes were about the entire department leadership. 294 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 4: They were citing serious concerns about leadership direction, public safety, 295 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 4: and then earlier this year there are also complaints from 296 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 4: officers themselves about how the leadership handled threats and safety operations. Now, 297 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 4: those votes don't prove that anyone policy caused the shooting. 298 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to say that. But what I am 299 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 4: saying is that, well before the shooting this week December thirteen, 300 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: there were internal stakeholders warning that the department's direction was 301 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 4: simply unacceptable. I know that most universities, as by Frankly, 302 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 4: I think even many businesses treat those kinds of warnings 303 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 4: as just labor noise. Maybe after this week that kind 304 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 4: of posture looks less like prudence and more like sticking 305 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 4: your head in the sand. So If Brown wants to 306 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 4: persuade anybody that it has learned anything from this, it 307 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 4: really should stop treating physical security as some kind of 308 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 4: an embarrassment or some kind of cover for DEI program 309 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 4: and start treating it as a duty that a campus 310 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 4: has to the people that pay the tuition or that 311 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 4: that you know, they pay the salaries to to teach 312 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 4: the students that pay the tuition, or for visitors, or 313 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 4: for that matter, the community that surrounds Brown University in 314 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 4: the campus. It requires acknowledging something that I think campus 315 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 4: administrators avoid saying out loud. A police department exists to 316 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 4: deter violence and respond to and investigate violence. A police 317 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 4: department is not there to market itself as being, Oh, 318 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 4: we're non threatening, Yeah, we're you know, we're just we're 319 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 4: just here to you know, we're here for show and tell. 320 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 4: Brown's own public communications show that it was deliberate when 321 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 4: it embedded DEI priorities into campus policing starting back in 322 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, and and elevated a safety leader in twenty 323 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 4: twenty one whose appointment was announced and explicitly framed in 324 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 4: terms of community engagement, under represented group relationship building, and 325 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 4: bias oriented policing reform. 326 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: That is DEI personified. 327 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 4: Now, whether that model contributed to under investment in cameras, 328 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 4: access control, and emergency doctrine, an independent review should answer. 329 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 4: But after December thirteenth, I think one thing is already clear. 330 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 4: An institution can spend an entire decade perfecting the language 331 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 4: is safety and still fail miserably at the mechanics of safety. 332 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 4: And I think what we see here is not just 333 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 4: applicable to Brown University, but it's one more example of 334 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 4: the dangers of of diversity, equity and inclusion. There's always 335 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 4: going to be racism, and our job as people who 336 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 4: abhor racism is to call it out when we see it. 337 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 4: But to perpetuate racism by saying that you know we're 338 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 4: going to do this or we're not going to do 339 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 4: this is absolutely insane. Now I've not and there's some 340 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: danger in this, except it comes from Alexa. So I'll 341 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 4: take some trust in this. But here is a university student. 342 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 4: This is supposed to buy somebody. I follow also on 343 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 4: ex Eric Doherty Brown University student Alex Say previously if 344 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 4: this rayed the school's administrators for having a forty six 345 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 4: million dollar deficit, despite surging costs for students they paid 346 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 4: ninety thousand plus per year. Let's just listen to what 347 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 4: he has to say. 348 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 7: Er Snake, one of the most exclusive institutions in the world. 349 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 6: But I'm not here to glorify the Ivy League. 350 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 7: I'm here to warn you and the promise of American 351 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 7: higher education of opportunity through meritocracy is under attack. 352 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 6: I'm a legacy student at Brown. 353 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 2: I went to a. 354 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 7: Prep school that fees to the Ivy League, and my 355 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 7: parents are doctors who can afford the ninety three thousand 356 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 7: dollars a year sticker price. In other words, I'm exactly 357 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 7: who the Ivy League was built for. 358 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 6: But what about the kids who weren't born on third base? 359 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 7: Statistically speaking, for a smart kid from a poor family, 360 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 7: an Ivy League degree can power their assent to the 361 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 7: upper income brackets better than anything else. That's the American dream. 362 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 7: But today that dream is now a luxury good. According 363 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 7: to The New York Times, at Brown, the median student's 364 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 7: family makes over two hundred thousand dollars a year. Half 365 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 7: the student body comes from the top five percent of earners, 366 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 7: and research by Brown's own professor John Friedman shows that 367 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 7: even equally qualified, low. 368 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 6: Income students are vastly underrepresented. 369 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 7: At this very moment, the American people are tightening their belts, 370 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 7: and Brown is raising tuition to beyond ninety thousand dollars 371 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 7: a year, and even while charging students the price. 372 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 6: Of a luxury car. Brown is on track to run 373 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 6: a forty six million dollar deficit this year. 374 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 4: Maybe they're spending too much money on DEI programs. Maybe 375 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 4: instead of hiring a vice president to run your safety department, 376 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 4: maybe I ought to hire a cop to run your 377 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 4: campus police department. Maybe that's what you want to do. 378 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 6: I'll tell you where it's going. 379 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 7: It's going into an empire of administrative bloat and bureaucracy. 380 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 4: Oh so Brown University is like any other public education somewhere, 381 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 4: it just happens to be a private university. Yeah, they're 382 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 4: squandering their money on bloat, on administrative overhead. 383 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 7: Brown employees three eight hundred and five full time non 384 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 7: instructional staff for just two hundred and twenty nine undergrads. 385 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 4: Wow, so for every two undergrads you've got an administrator. 386 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 4: That's pretty good ratio, don't you think. I wonder how 387 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 4: many cops they have per what it was that seven 388 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 4: thousand students. I wonder how many cops say out for 389 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 4: those to. 390 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 6: One administrator for every two students. This isn't education. 391 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 7: This is bloat paid for on the backs of students 392 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 7: and families who are mortgaging their futures for a shot 393 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 7: at a better life. Meanwhile, Grace Calhoun, Brown's athletic director, 394 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 7: earns over one million dollars. A household assistant on payroll 395 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 7: tends to university president Christina Packson, and when budget cuts 396 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 7: are made, these expenses stay while the. 397 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 6: Student experience deteriorates. 398 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 7: My dorm floods when it rains, and the burger patties 399 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 7: in our dining hall have been replaced by an unappetizing 400 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 7: beef mushroom blend. The idea that Brown's administration can. 401 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 6: Be streamlined is in conjecture. We didn't used to have 402 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 6: these many administrators. 403 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 7: Across the nation, the number of university administrators has risen 404 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 7: by one hundred and sixty two percent in recent decades, 405 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 7: and it's no coincidence that correspondingly, the cost of education 406 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 7: has risen one hundred and eighty one percent in inflation adjusted dollars. 407 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 6: Since the nineties. Across the pond. 408 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 7: A world class education on Oxford or Cambridge can cost 409 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 7: about half as much as an Ivy League degree in 410 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 7: parts due to a much lower administrative burden. 411 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 4: And that's true, I think everywhere. And then you throw 412 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 4: in into that mix, into that blender DEI programs, the 413 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 4: bloat becomes even worse. And then when when, I mean, 414 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 4: I want you to think for yourself. When, because we've 415 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 4: got the holidays coming up, and we've got the shooter dead, 416 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 4: so I know everybody's focused on the motive. When will 417 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 4: the cabal, if ever, start asking questions what were you 418 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 4: doing with DEI versus what were you doing with actual 419 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 4: campus security? 420 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 2: I'll be right back right. 421 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 4: You may be taking two weeks off, but I guarantee 422 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 4: you you're gonna. 423 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: Hear my lap in your head down whole vacation. 424 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 4: Sad but true, I know, right, sad but true. Every 425 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 4: time it's true. Every time I see an eighteen wheel her, 426 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 4: I just I kind of like, hey, I should just 427 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 4: lie and say, you know, I actually drive a twenty 428 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 4: sixteen Kia. It's a it's a brown, rusted out twenty 429 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 4: sixteen Kia, and it's got a it's got a little 430 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 4: dent on the on the Let's see what he'd be 431 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 4: driving in the left lane because he's driving seventy five 432 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 4: miles an hour down twenty five. So I'll be in 433 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 4: the middle lane trying to pudd along. By the way, 434 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 4: the exhaust just flares out. You know, it's just blue 435 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 4: smoke flowing everywhere. So look for that, that'll be me. 436 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 4: Don't look for a white DMWM sport. 437 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: Don't look. Don't look for that. Won't see me, because 438 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: it really is. 439 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 4: It is sad when you look at every truck and 440 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 4: you think, oh my god, is that him? Because I 441 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 4: you know, you you you start pulling over as far 442 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 4: as you can over into the you know, far right side, 443 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 4: or you full the our left side. 444 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: Kid. 445 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 4: You the truck's just weaving and everything, you know, and 446 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 4: there's you know, rappers blowing out of the you know 447 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 4: he wrote down the window and how you know the. 448 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: Speriend getting tossed out. 449 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, stuff tossed out. You know it's him, you know 450 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 2: it's him. 451 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 5: You know. 452 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 4: Here's the thing. I don't ever want to meet him 453 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 4: because I have I have the perfect picture in my 454 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 4: mind what he looks like, how he acts, how he 455 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 4: smells everything, And I know what that runs. I know 456 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 4: what he may keep like right now. He may be 457 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 4: kind of like, you know, a little sport coat, you know, 458 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 4: and a really nice real shirt and clean, crisp jeans 459 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 4: and you know, a really nice, shiny new pair of 460 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 4: work boots or something, and it's just going to ruin 461 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 4: my entire image. 462 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit like Gilbert Godfried and have that 463 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: voice as a fake voice, yes, exactly. 464 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 4: He may have like a real radio voice. It probably 465 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 4: doesn't smoke, drink, do anything, you know. But somehow I 466 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 4: think that's not true. I think it's true. I think 467 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 4: what we get is what we get text messages. Uh 468 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 4: Juber number eighty seven thirty, Please, for the love of 469 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 4: Santa Claus, record a new Michael Brown minute over on 470 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 4: Freedom while you're away at the North Pole. I can't 471 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 4: take the same MSG. We don't use MSG in our 472 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 4: food here. We don't use delicious, though I know it 473 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 4: makes it much more delicious occasionally gets you a headache, 474 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 4: but you're right, it's worth it. I can't take the 475 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 4: same MSG over and over for weeks on end. Also, 476 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 4: you have a guest host for the weekend program. No, 477 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 4: it doesn't mean we'll be live either. But oh, yeah, 478 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 4: I can't let out that can't let out that radio secret? 479 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 4: Can you? 480 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: Oh, nothing's ever recorded on a station. 481 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 4: Do you want to hear what you're gonna hear for 482 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 4: the next two weeks? You want to record it right now? 483 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: Dragon A Holy can give you one second? 484 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: You want to record it live on air right now. 485 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: We don't. It's like we don't have time to do it. 486 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: We'll do yeah, we'll do it during the break.