WEBVTT - Uvalde Cowards-err... Cops Charged 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.680 You're listening to kf I Am six forty the Bill 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:08.879 Handles show on demand on the iHeartRadio f HI I 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:14.200 Am six forty Bill Handle Here a Saturday morning, well. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:15.239 Into the new year. 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:19.080 We only have a couple of hundred actually three hundred 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:22.000 and something days shopping days till Christmas, so we're getting 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:22.920 close again. 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:25.840 And welcome to the show. 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:29.319 And as always, if you are interested in asking me, 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:33.800 the lawyer extraordinary with a deep, vast knowledge of the law. 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:39.320 Actually it's not particularly deep and it's not particularly vast, 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.880 but I like to think so. The phone number here 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:44.920 is eight hundred five to two zero one five three four. 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:49.240 That's eight hundred five two zero one five three four. 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:54.200 And of course first hour out top of the hour, 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:59.279 no phone calls up, which means that you're not going 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.240 to be put and you're not going to get a 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:05.160 busys signal, which sometimes happened when we have a full board, 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:09.280 and as hit or miss, sometimes I'm asking for phone numbers, 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.880 and because I don't have enough calls coming in, sometimes 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.040 I'm asking for phone numbers. I give you phone numbers 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.520 only because it's habit and I do have a full board, 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:22.280 and sometimes we just have a full board, and I 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:23.480 don't even. 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.200 Bother asking for phone calls. 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.839 They give you the phone numbers, so right now, great 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:31.040 time to call the numbers eight hundred five to zero 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:36.199 one five three four, eight hundred five two zero one 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:37.680 five three. 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.800 Four And man, the lines are pouring in. 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:45.240 Not quite so feel free and I'll be more than 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.520 happy to answer your question hopefully make you miserable, which 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:55.200 makes me feel great. It's marginal legal advice, and I 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.200 love telling you you have absolutely nothing. As a matter 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:02.240 of fact, this is handle on the law, marginal legal 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.360 advice where I tell you you have absolutely no case. 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.000 I mean as often as I can. All right. 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.960 In twenty twenty two, of course, you remember, we all 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:18.800 remember the shooting in Uvalde, Texas inside that elementary school, 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:23.840 and the cops showed up within a few minutes and 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:27.160 as the shooter who was later killed. As the shooter 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:31.480 had gone into a classroom and then another classroom and 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:37.200 point blank was shooting at and killing and wounding the 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.560 students and a couple of teachers. The police show up 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:46.800 and wait seventy seven minutes before storming the classroom, and 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.720 they could hear the shots on the other side of 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:56.400 the door. And the police were gutless wonders as this 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.799 was playing out in real time and we were watching 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:03.960 it happened, and so you figure these cops who had 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.080 a duty to go in there and had a duty 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.720 to try to save the children, did nothing for seventy 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:13.200 seven minutes. And most of us who were watching this, 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:16.680 who looked at it on video and you've seen it 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:20.320 on YouTube, are thinking these cops should be tried. I mean, 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.800 this is a crime. Well, yeah, it is a crime. 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:23.760 It is a crime. 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:27.079 Morally, and it is a crime legally. 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:33.240 Now one police officer is being charged, one cop of 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:37.720 all of them, and it's a school officer. That means 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.440 it's a police, a peace officer on the school premises, 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:45.960 not the police coming in from the police departments outside. 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:50.320 Adrian Gonzalez, he arrives. 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:55.120 At the scene, the teener, the teenager saw a silent 0:03:55.400 --> 0:04:00.080 assailant is still outside the building and didn't try to 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.640 engage or distract him coming in, even when the teacher 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.200 pointed out, look at this guy, and he did nothing. 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:12.000 He only went inside after the damage had been done, 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:16.560 according to the prosecutor, and he is being charged. 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:18.920 He's being charged now. 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:24.320 Defense attorneys are disputing those accusations. One of two officers 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:28.000 charged this one's going to trial, sorry about that, disputed 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.520 that he did nothing, saying he radioed for more help 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:35.000 and he evacuated children and his other police officers arrived, 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:39.440 but the shooting was still continuing on and he had 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:44.400 a duty to storm the building. And which usually happens 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:48.000 with active shooters. They stormed the building. And then whenever 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.880 the active shooter is fingered out as to which room, 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:56.080 which office, which classroom the shooter the active shooters in, 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:56.840 they just storm it. 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:58.760 They just bang, break. 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:03.400 Down the door, and simply attack what's going on inside. 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:04.040 He didn't do it. 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:08.760 And if you look at tactics that have changed rather dramatically, 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:14.440 and that is exactly what I said, is the police 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:18.720 officers who hear anything on the other side, or who 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:22.560 are told that there is a crime being committed and 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.680 people kids, especially when you're talking about elementary schools, can 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:30.960 you imagine that being shot up? They have to storm. 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:34.320 Now that is the new policy, but that's a policy 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:35.920 that was in place in twenty twenty two. 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:38.960 That was in place. 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.160 Now usually what ended up happening, or prior to that, 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:45.680 they'd call swat, swat would be outside, and their negotiations 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.239 would happen calling in, the calling and the shooter. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:49.560 They don't do that anymore. 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.320 If there is an active shooter inside, they're going to 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:54.040 just go for it. 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:56.719 So it's. 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:05.120 It's heartbreaking. Kids died who shouldn't have died. It's that simple. Okay, 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:10.200 let's take some phone calls here. Joan, Hello, Joan, welcome. 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:15.800 Yeah, Hi Bill, I am my daughter. We have a case. 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.560 You know, you see these cases on Facebook, you know, 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:24.240 sue cohls or whatever for invading your privacy, and one 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:28.680 came up that she more than qualifies for. It's a 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:35.760 MEDA case and it's for teenagers who were mentally damaged 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:42.040 by Facebook. And okay, what do you mean case metam 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:42.520 et a. 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.200 It's oh, okay, got it's oh okay. 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:48.600 Got it. It's a class actually. 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.440 Okay, it's case against MADO. Okay, so understood. 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.839 Yeah. So I filled out the paperwork for her and 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.479 sent it in. They sent the legal forms. And my 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.920 daughter is on a boat. She works on a ship, 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.839 and she's pretty hard to get a hold of. And 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.440 she had told this legal firm that I could fill 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:12.760 out the paperwork for her getting the authorization. But they're 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.480 being a little weird about it and want her to 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:19.559 do it, and there's a deadline and I just don't. 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:21.760 Okay, Okay, Just. 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:25.000 To make it real simple, let's just go practical here, 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:29.400 all right. Do you have access to a phone. Do 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.360 you talk to her? 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:32.280 Yes? 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.840 Okay, there is there internet on the phone? 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:38.440 Correct? 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.360 Okay, why doesn't she just why don't Why doesn't she 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.640 just fill out the paperwork and send it and send 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:46.360 it to the email and then you send it in 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.480 have her sign it with one of those docus signed 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:55.280 the DOCU sign programs and sign it. Why wouldn't you 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.760 do that? Then all this problem is over. And if 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.640 the law firm isn't jumping on this, you get a 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.320 self another law firm, or you call them up and 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.520 you say, this is something's really wrong. 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.280 Here, got it? 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:07.080 That's what I'll do. 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:08.200 Yeah, that's what you do. 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.440 And by the way, if she doesn't join the class 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:16.600 action lawsuit, she can sue individually. She can opt out 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:21.000 of the class action lawsuit. Okay, so there's a couple 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.120 of ways of going. But just let's get let's get 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.840 practical here for a moment. Please just have her fill 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.240 out the paperwork and it doesn't matter what anybody says. 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.120 We've tried a lot of that. It's been a back 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:32.880 and forth kind of me. 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:35.640 It's been back and forth. 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.360 The paperwork is filled out by her, signed by her, 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:41.880 and the law firm is not accepting it. 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.319 No, they keep saying that they're sending her emails. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.360 Now just a delay. Okay, Well, then you send it 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.800 to her. Then you get a copy of it. You know, 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:53.920 you just just tell. 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:55.640 Her law firm, I want a copy of it, I 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:59.880 want the application, and they're going to give it to you. Yeah, 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.320 I mean, there's no other way of doing that. Wow. 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:04.559 All right, let me tell you a little bit about 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.199 Handle on the Law dot com. 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Eight 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:28.920 hundred five two zero one five three four is the number, 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:32.040 and welcome back to Handle on. 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:37.000 The Law Marginal Legal Advice. All right, Steve, your turn, 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:38.440 Welcome to the show. 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:46.319 Steve, Yes, sir, yeah, yeah. Have they looked any further 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:53.680 into the situation that were maybe a school employee like 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:59.400 a genre or electrician possibly even a teacher might be 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:05.440 a trained and qualified to carry to carry conceal. 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.720 No, you know, that is a very good question, and 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.560 that has a lot to do with the jurisdiction and 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:16.160 certain mainly school districts in the south southern part of 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.040 the United States. First of all, open carry, so anybody 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.640 can carry a weapon, any adult can carry a weapon. 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.839 Usually you can't carry a weapon on school grounds. That's 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.840 generally where the line is drawn. However, there are a 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:34.160 lot of people and I'm included, that are thinking exactly 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:38.760 the same lines that you are, that school employees, as 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:44.600 you said, janitors and teachers be armed and trained to 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:48.480 deal with an active shooter. So as of this point 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.800 there isn't any place in the country to my knowledge, 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:54.560 but pretty good I have to tell you what. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:56.720 And they have looked at it and it's being considered 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.920 by legislators across the country. 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:04.119 Had one more question of Medicare question right, yes. 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:07.400 Well, on the Medicare there's a special number on the 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:12.120 Medicare card. My question on the Medicare once that your 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:16.200 name and that number, it's a series of the letters 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:20.720 and numbers to identify are you on the Medicare card? 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:25.240 Once that's in the system, isn't the system answer linked? 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.559 Like I walked into a doctor's office front and desk 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:30.320 and they brought my name. 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:32.440 No, I don't think so. No, I don't think so. 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.280 I think they have to call or they have to 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:37.800 go into the Medicare system. 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:38.280 It's not. 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.320 I don't think it's linked automatically. I think they have 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:41.960 to go into it. Unless so, if you go in 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.000 the second time, it probably is. I don't think the 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:45.960 first time it is. If they have it all on 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.560 your the record is there. Yeah, if the doctor already 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.320 has that information, yeah, then it's linked. But other than that, no, 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:54.000 it's not a link. It's just the information is there. 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.920 In other words, you know it's on it's on your chart, 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:01.920 and there it is. But just to be really careful, 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:05.839 because I'm pretty careful about my Medicare because I hit 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:09.360 sixty five, what I do and in terms of the numbers, 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.760 just in case, So what I do is that I 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:16.040 had my Medicare number tattooed on my butt. Now it 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.440 had to go backwards because I'm looking in the mirror 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:24.360 to make sure it's right. So it's it's a little complicated, 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:29.520 all right, Oh, Katrina Hi, Katrina. 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:39.800 Hello, Yes, an ha HA in Fullerton, and they are 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:44.560 responsible for replacing the roofs and also doing yearly maintenance 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:50.760 on them. And during the reigns people's roofs had leaked, 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:56.040 they had caused damage inside the properties. The HIA is 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.520 playing for the repairs of it, but none of the 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.720 damage that was done from the leak. You move inside, 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:02.719 there are places. 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:08.120 Okay, so it's responsible, Okay, probably. 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:09.599 Probably probably the h o A. 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:13.240 But I'm assuming you have insurance, correct, you have either 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:14.880 home or Renner's insurance. 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:15.760 Is that right? 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:16.600 Yes? 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:17.800 But they have denied it. 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:19.600 They said, why would they know what? 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:21.480 They deny it because the h o A. 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.720 They say, the h o A is responsible and therefore 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:29.360 they're denying it, right, Yes, Yeah, Well that's I don't 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.400 think that's the way it works. I think you get 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.960 insurance come hell or high water. Because if let's say 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:37.280 a burglar comes in right and trash is your place, 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:41.040 can they deny it and say, oh, it's the burglar's responsibility. 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:43.720 I you just first of all, you got. 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:45.240 To fix it, obviously, have to fix it, and then 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.400 you go after the HOA and you look at the 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:51.800 c CNRS because when you say they are responsible. Have 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:57.120 you have you looked at the c cnrs, because under 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.640 the c cnrs, and I'm just I don't have them 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.280 in front of me. And this is California, Fullerton is 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:07.440 in Orange County. I they can say we're only responsible 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:11.040 for the repairs and you must buy insurance. Now, the 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:13.960 insurance companies can't come back and say the HOA is 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:17.440 responsible because right there it's clearly said we're not responsible. 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:18.520 They're not. 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.200 Effectively the insurance. 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:24.000 Company are saying the HOA is quote primary insurance and 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.840 that and they're saying that's why we're denying, which by 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:27.600 the way, is a CROC. 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:29.560 But you got to get it fixed. 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:32.480 And if there's a bunch of if there are a 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.240 bunch of you where the property damage occurred, you all 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.240 get together and you sue them. But look at the 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.360 look at look at the HOA. You have to read 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:45.040 the you have to read the ccnrs. The problem with 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:48.200 those ccnrs and you're handed the CCNRS when you buy 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.360 a condo or the owner when the condo or the 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:55.600 apartment is rented, it's usually a condo owned by someone else, 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.040 they have a copy of the CCNRS. And now you're 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.800 talking to the owner and now it's and these things 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:07.400 are pages and pages long. I mean they can be 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:13.320 little books. I remember the hoa that I have on 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.040 my property. I have a house, but it's part of 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:19.400 an hoa community, and man, I go. You know, I'm 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.720 a lawyer, granted a bad one, but I'm a lawyer 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:23.680 and I go through it and I can't understand three 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.720 quarters of it. 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Let's get back to 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.879 more Handle on the Law Marginal Legal Advice where I 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.400 tell you, whatever your name is, that you have absolutely 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:23.360 no case hopefully. 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.200 Braiden, Hi, Braiden, welcome to the show. 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:30.600 You know something's going on with a little bit of 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:37.920 a delay here, and I don't understand what Braiden you're there, Sam, 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:40.760 What is going on with these calls? 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.960 Doesn't it seem to be okay? Should be good, Braiden. 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.040 Unless you're in we're gonna are we in here at 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:50.240 toilet flesh in a minute because we're on a delay. 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:52.960 I mean, Braiden may not understand that. But what you're 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:57.880 listening to on the radio is after I am or 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.320 we are talking just in case you say you know 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.600 wonderful things that we don't want. 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:03.200 Anybody to hear. 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:06.159 Okay, I'll put Brandon on hold because he's got a 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:12.840 good question. Actually, Oh Carol, Hi Carol, welcome, Hi Bill. 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:14.760 Yes, ma'am my mother in law. 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:17.159 My mother in law is in her mid eighties and 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:21.359 she fell and broke her femur about five months ago. 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:25.840 The surgeons they put a plate in her arm with screws, 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:31.919 and within a month approximately, she had bent the plate 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:33.960 and the screws ripped. 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:34.560 Out of the bone. 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:35.679 How she do that? 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:41.359 And they they said they'd never really have this happen. 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:45.840 And she thinks maybe sleeping rolling over on her side. 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:47.119 Did she play tennis? 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:53.560 And so no play highlights a great sport that can 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:58.159 really do it. Pickleball also is a strong one. Racketball, 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:02.160 not it works. Lacrosse is a possibility on none of those. 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:04.240 Right now. 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.480 She's in her eighties and smoked a good part of 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:06.880 her life. 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:13.040 Okay, couldn't be all right, So there she is with 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:17.119 her armall screwed up, and the plate and the screws unscrewing, 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:18.360 the plate bending. 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:21.560 Uh, that's a problem. So let's go on with the story. 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:27.159 Yeah, and it's a really painful injury. So they she 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:30.879 went back to the doctor earlier, like I think last week, 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:35.359 and they said that, yeah, the bones didn't hold the 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:39.359 screws and that this isn't something that normally happens, and 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:42.240 the logical choice is to go back in and replace 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:46.120 the plate, and they wanted to do it pretty much 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:51.159 that day or in the morning, and she kind of 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:53.679 got the vibe and my husband had the vibe that 0:20:54.280 --> 0:21:02.040 something wasn't done correctly. So she's she does not go 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:06.000 through surgery very well. She usually, you know, she's afraid 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:08.920 she's not going to make it through surgery, and so 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:12.760 she's scared and doesn't do well post surgery at all. 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:17.760 But now she can't. She's in a lot of pain 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:21.480 and she can't lift her arm. Okay, So I'm just 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.600 kind of wondering if there's any inkling of maybe some 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:25.960 type of malpractice there. 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:28.639 How I wouldn't know. At this point. You don't know. 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:32.040 You don't know, and the only way you're going to 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:38.719 know is go to another physician, another orthopedic surgeon. You 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:42.119 can go to a medical malpractice attorney who will refer 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:50.240 her to a doctor that specializes in this, an orthopedic surgeon. 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:53.879 So you have two choices. I would go to the lawyer, 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:57.600 not because I'm a lawyer. It's because the lawyer knows 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:01.119 enough and knows to go to the doctor directly, so 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:03.240 you don't have to figure out which doctor and they'll 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:06.040 tell you, yeah, there's enough there for a malpractice case, 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:09.600 or there isn't, because malpractice cases. 0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:10.440 A fact have to be certified. 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:12.560 I mean, a doctor has to sign off on medical 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:15.960 malpractice cases. And then you find out now the fact 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:19.520 that they wanted to fix it immediately, Yeah, that is 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:22.480 a red flag. I would think, wait a minute, this 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:26.480 isn't one of those where you're talking about a heart 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:28.800 issue where you got to go in like that day 0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:33.280 my dad, for example, I had blockage in his heart 0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:37.920 one of his arteries, and man, that was diagnosed in 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:38.600 the afternoon. 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:41.040 The next morning he was in surgery. 0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:44.159 Because that could have gone any time, but this doesn't 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:47.920 seem to be the case, and so yeah, it's time 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.919 for you to explore what's going on now. 0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:54.640 The other issue is if it can be fixed. 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:58.399 And she chooses not to go into surgery, that is 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:02.520