1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Pretty good start, and now they're in Sweden for a 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: couple of games. Joining me now to talk Penguins. He 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: played for the team. He's the original Pittsburgh Penguin, the 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: guy born and raised in Upper Saint Clair. You now 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: see him on sports at Pittsburgh. He is Bugsy Ryan 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Malone bugs. We gonna talk shootout because the Penguins aren't very. 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 2: Good at it. 8 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: When you played, what was your team's shootout routine? How'd 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: a different from team to team? What did you guys 10 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: do to prepare? 11 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 3: Usually? Well, first, thanks for having me and happy Veterans 12 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 3: date all of our heroes out there. Of course it's 13 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 3: being off the dating awesome. Yeah, thanks for our freedom 14 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: with shootout for us. I think usually kind of had 15 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: your go to guys and then usually maybe a third 16 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 3: guy would be maybe who you know. We in practice, 17 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 3: you practice the shootout and the guy maybe won a 18 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: few times and just has whatever special movement in his 19 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: bag of tricks that usually works. So I think the 20 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: biggest thing is you need to stop right the goal. 21 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: Yeah you got they let you have Shiloh that has 22 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: been playing great, but in the shootouts, for whatever reason, 23 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 3: he has been you know, getting beat I don't know 24 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 3: what his percentages, but I know it's probably below average. 25 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: But you know, they're battling and hopefully they continue to 26 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: get themselves in those situations and just finish them over 27 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: time instead. 28 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: Well, it has been below average for Shiittoffs in the 29 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: shootout bugs he's a lot seven goals on eight attempts, 30 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: and you're right, I think he's played real good, you know, 31 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: up till that point, up till the shootout starts. But 32 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: given his struggles, would you sub him out for the shootout? 33 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: Would you put in Jari or morrish Off or whoever 34 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: the other goal he is when the shootout starts. 35 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 3: Geez, it's so hard because those guys are so cold 36 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: coming off the bed, sitting there unless you know, for 37 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: whatever reason, they feel like even in practice, he's not 38 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: able to, you know, stop the consistent breakaways. You know, 39 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: we might see that otherwise. 40 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 4: I think he's got to. 41 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: Roll with the guy in there and hopefully, you know, 42 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: he stops the next one. 43 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: What were your impressions at Morrishoff, the Russian goalie who 44 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: made his NHL debut on Sunday at home in the 45 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: lost to LA. 46 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 3: I thought he looked great, honestly, I thought he was 47 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: just very kind of controlled and you know, really quick 48 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: and powerful with his kind of movements and cutting down 49 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: the angles. And I really kind of liked just his attitude. 50 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 3: Or someone I think asked him a question if he's 51 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 3: like thrown in the fire, how he react, and he 52 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: was just kind of like, I prepare to be thrown 53 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 3: in the fire. That's my job to be in the fire. 54 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: So I think looking at Vassilevski, I'm down here in 55 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 3: Tampa seeing how he trains repairs and how many hours 56 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: he really puts in at the rink at his craft. Again, 57 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: those guys are well prepared before they step into that 58 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: game night, and so that they did all they can do. 59 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: And I think there he had a great mindset, and 60 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: then even some of the goals he did lit up. 61 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 3: He always saw him take a few, you know, big 62 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: deep breasts and get some water and kind of reset after. 63 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: But I really liked his attitude and his movement. So 64 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: I think we definitely got a good one there. 65 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: Did the pengwins deserve better than one point? Out of 66 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: the weekends games against Jersey in LA? I thought they 67 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: definitely all played Jersey at Jersey and they're a pretty 68 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: good team off to a great start. 69 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: Yes, I think definitely they probably could have had a 70 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 3: few more points. But I think that's where we really 71 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: notice just how hard it is to win in the NHL. 72 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 3: And if you have, you know, five ten minute laps. 73 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: The other team has so many skilled guys, you know, 74 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter if you know everybody's name or the 75 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 3: All Stars and not. Everyone is so skilled. If they're 76 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: getting these great opportunities, usually you know it might go in. 77 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: But I think you know they're playing the right way. 78 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: They're not giving up a thousand grade opportunities. I love 79 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: their their special teams. Everyone's doing it. Takes on the 80 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: penalty kill working together, and it's been a lot of 81 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: fun watching the power play snapping around and move the 82 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: puck and support each other. So it's been I think 83 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: a great buy in from everyone. I think none of 84 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: us really should be surprised with the leadership in that room, 85 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: and you know, with the coaching staff as well, getting 86 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: everyone prepared on the same page. So kudos to everyone 87 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: so far at the early part of the season. 88 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: Eric Carson's playing really well, isn't he. I wasn't impressed 89 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: his first two seasons in Pittsburgh. But these couple months, 90 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: I think he's been terrific. 91 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, I think he They put him kind 92 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: of as the obviously go to guy in the first 93 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: power play. They're given him the reins there, and I 94 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: think sometimes I think, as these elite players, making that 95 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: simple pass is like boring to them. So you know, 96 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: maybe the coaching staffage like, hey, just make that first pass, 97 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: make that easy, high percentage play, and you know good 98 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 3: things are going to happen. And I think consistently, through 99 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: him and all the defenseman there, they are just trying 100 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: to make that simple play and not try to do 101 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 3: too much, you know, back there and force it as much. 102 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 3: I think everyone's just been you know, a simple, simple 103 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: game and good puck support working together. 104 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: I haven't talked to you since Ben Kendall kind it 105 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: came on strong as a rookie. 106 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: What's your take on him? 107 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think he's obviously very smart player, 108 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: and he's been putting themselves in these situations to uh, 109 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 3: you know, find some school. But just watching him play 110 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 3: and you know, the coach even in those early, you know, 111 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: first five games, he was still out there last you know, 112 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 3: three minutes of the game, and I think that was 113 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 3: just those kind of like little tests to see how 114 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: he would respond. And I was really impressed more with 115 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 3: his patience with the puck. Usually, like I'm thinking back 116 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: when I was even twenty some years old, it's like 117 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 3: off the glass and out, get rid of it real fast. 118 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: But he's really seemed composed and you know, making the 119 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 3: right decision and then you know, as unfortunately the injury 120 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: bug has kind of hit us a little bit, these 121 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: other opportunities have happened, and he stepped up and and showed, 122 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 3: you know, he can think and play with the big 123 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: boys as well. So it's a great, uh, great future 124 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 3: for him. 125 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: What would you do with Brunette? 126 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: He's been scratched a few games, he struggled a few 127 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: before that. If he plays one more, his work he 128 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: contract kicks in. I think they're thinking about keeping him 129 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: because if they were gonna send it back, I think 130 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: they would have buy now. 131 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: But what's your call? 132 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean personally, I guess if I was put 133 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: on a GM hat, I would probably send them back. 134 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: I think the game with Pickering, they played twice, it showed, 135 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 3: you know, to myself, both are young, good defenseman and 136 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: they didn't. I think without having Dunba or Clifton or 137 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 3: you know, a veteran presence out there with him, it 138 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 3: kind of showed maybe some weaknesses that maybe just a 139 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: little stronger, you know, battling in front a little maybe 140 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 3: quicker decisions only because we I think right now, if 141 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: they're keeping all the defensemen they have Clifton, Dumba and 142 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: now Graves up, you know they have enough guys I 143 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: think back there that can play and play that five 144 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 3: to six role where if he goes back to junior, 145 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: you know he can be the stud playing twenty five 146 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: thirty minutes a night and then he really has a 147 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 3: good of what it takes. And then coming into camp 148 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: next year, you know, whole summer training. You know, it's 149 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: a whole different animal and player would be looking at. 150 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: So my take would be, uh to send them back. 151 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: But I love his upside and what he brings. I 152 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: just think with the players that have now obviously not 153 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: knowing if they're playing on moving, these older guys are 154 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: not UH for to make space for him. But I would 155 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: say with the decore they have now, I would send 156 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,119 Speaker 3: them back to junior, let them rip it up, build 157 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: some confidence and bring them back to. 158 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 5: Camp next year. 159 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: What's your take on the coaching change over. 160 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: What do you see Mews doing differently than Sellivan did, 161 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: because obviously Selly had a great run here, But sometimes 162 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: fresh is better and different is better. 163 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: And I think we're seeing the fruits to that, don't you. 164 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: One hundred percent? I think you hear a lot of 165 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: time is just kind of you know, puck support and 166 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: putting pucks in places where we're going to get it back. 167 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 3: We're not just ringing around the boards for no reason 168 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: and giving them to their goalie, even on the and 169 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: I think it's more of thinking defense or getting on 170 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: the defense the side of the pucks, even in the ozone, 171 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,559 Speaker 3: getting up kind of in between you and your player, 172 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 3: and just not giving up these odd man rushes and 173 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: so many turnovers in the neutral zone when you're making 174 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: the team go two hundred feet down the ice to 175 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: earn their goal, the chances of you, you know, breaking 176 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: it up by the time because you're in are pretty 177 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: good compared to some East West plays in turnovers where 178 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,119 Speaker 3: they shorten the ice and take advantage of the games. 179 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: We kind of lost. Guys were just getting a little 180 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: sloppy with the puck or not supporting each other well, 181 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 3: so I think he really is keeping it simple for 182 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: the guys again, keep everyone on the same page, so 183 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 3: everyone's kind of on their toes and know what's happening. 184 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: And I think offensively, he's letting guys be creative. And 185 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: it's actually been great to watch the puck support. You know, 186 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: four or five sixsses are getting snapped around the ozone 187 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: sometimes before a shot, and they're really maintaining that ozone control. 188 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 3: So I think it's some news. And then all the 189 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 3: assistant coaches have their little part right to play and 190 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: help the team, and you know, keeping I heard the 191 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,599 Speaker 3: practices and lots of energy and gu some competition and 192 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: they're keeping it light and fun and enjoying it. And 193 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: I think all around is just a great mix. And 194 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: everyone understand how hard is to win. But you know, 195 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 3: again we have the leadership as we. 196 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: Do and. 197 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: The coaching now just kind of I guess, reassuring the 198 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: players that you know, if we play this way, we 199 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: can't have success. And again, these little things have added 200 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 3: up so far at the end of the season for 201 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 3: a great start for the Black and Gold. 202 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: Bugsy, you mentioned Veterans Day, which is today. Thanks to 203 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: all the veterans out there for everything they've done and 204 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: in that vein. What do we got going on with 205 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: the Malone Family Foundation. What's up next? You've had some 206 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: great events. 207 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks. We were very fortunate again to just honor 208 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 3: our heroes in the community with the game of hockey 209 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: and actually were Our next event is down here in 210 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: Tampa November twenty six at Benchmark Arena. We'll have close 211 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 3: to eighty veterans and first responders. We have all four 212 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 3: Warriors teams from the state of Florida participating along with 213 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: the fire and police teams here of Tampa, and we 214 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: just got some alumni involved and we kind of do 215 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: our thing there with our Warrior Hockey Academy that you know, 216 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: we're really trying to run this program not only in Tampa, 217 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: but other NHL cities as well. So we're very fortunate 218 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 3: for the Lightning to open up their doors and really 219 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 3: help us with the ice time and sponsorships to get 220 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 3: on board and celebrate our heroes. And we're happy to 221 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 3: announce the NHL actually has stepped in as well to 222 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: be the presenting sponsor at our academy, So we're very 223 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 3: excited to have the NHL on board now supporting our 224 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: mission and celebrating our heroes in the community. 225 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: Well that is great news. 226 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: And let's look even further ahead, Bugsy, because in twenty 227 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: twenty six, welcially, we got the celebrity game like last year. 228 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: This year made thirteenth at RMU and the gala May 229 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: fifteenth at River's Casino, which I attended last year, and boy, 230 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: what a night that was. 231 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's we're all the support and lovely got 232 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 3: from that, Gal, we'd be able to roll into these 233 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: different academies in Pittsburgh, Minnesota and Tampa now, so we're 234 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: gonna bring that back and again I think even during 235 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: the day. We're gonna have a veterans kind of tournament 236 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 3: on that Wednesday, and we'll end the evening kind of 237 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 3: with a celebrity game there. So then Friday will be 238 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 3: at Rivers Casino again. We can't thank them enough for 239 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 3: their hospitality for hosting us again this year. So we're 240 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 3: very excited again to be back in Pittsburgh and breaking 241 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: the mold with the block and gold Bugsy. 242 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: Great stuff. 243 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: We'll see as soon, I hope my best of the 244 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: boys and the big Bugsy of course, and we'll talk soon. 245 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, all right, I'll talk to you Elier. 246 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,239 Speaker 2: That's why I'm alone. Check him out on sports Net Pittsburgh. 247 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: And of course the work he does with the Malone 248 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: Family Foundation in their Warriors Hockey Academy is just unparalleled. 249 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: We got Mike to favor at the bottom of the hour. 250 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: Get your calls in now. I love that SoundBite from 251 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens rookie linebacker. It just as a matter of fact, 252 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: but yeah, we know we're winning the division and to 253 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: kind of feel that way. I also want your thoughts 254 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: on Tomlin's saying that the Steelers have to convert more 255 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: on third down to get Jalen War and more touches. No, 256 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: the only way to get the best way to get 257 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: Jalen War more touches is to just give him more touches. 258 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: And he's keeping Ramsey and uh Dugger as the starting safeties, 259 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: which I totally agree with. So we do got a 260 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: lot of Steelers to talk about. But I think it's 261 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: all leading to the same place it always does. A 262 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: one way ticket to Pollukville nine. 263 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 5: X one O five nine the ex as your shot 264 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 5: at X drug cash. 265 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 3: See what I did there? 266 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 5: Thirteen times a day, nine am through nine pm. 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They have signed a Sante Samuel Junior, 277 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: the cornerback, to the practice squad. He had a spinal 278 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: fusion procedure that ended his season last year. Spinal fusion. Well, 279 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: these go to eleven. I hope listen, this guy's not 280 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: gonna help it all. Nobody can sign as a free 281 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: agent after you've already played nine games. Is gonna help 282 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: it all? Then again, he might help more than one 283 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: Thornhill who they caught. There's a train of thought that 284 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: Marquez Valdez Scantling, the receiver, the thirty one year old, 285 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: the old timey crony of Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay 286 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: that he's gonna get a helmet against Cincinnati Sundy at ACRESSHRU, 287 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: and I think we can agree that that would solve 288 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: all the Steelers' problems. Speaking of Rogers, I spoke at 289 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: the Talk of the show. Have I overestimated overrated how 290 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: well Rodgers has played so far this year? He ranks 291 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: third interception percentage that means too many, not hardly any. 292 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: He ranks twenty second and completed air yards not a 293 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: lot of touchdowns, but his passer rating completion percentage, those 294 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: are man. He's not had a three hundred yard game 295 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: passing yet this year. He was beyond awful at LA 296 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: and looked extremely rattled. So, like I said earlier on 297 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: the year, I'd maybe give him a C plus, which 298 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: would still make him the Steelers team MVP. And I've 299 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: heard further I hate to talk about this, but I'm 300 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: gonna I. 301 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: Don't know him. 302 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: I've heard further that Rogers is bothered by that storing 303 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: the New Yor post that suggests his wife is a 304 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: phantom and might not exist, and quote Steelers wives and 305 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: girlfriends anonymously of course, who say they haven't seen her 306 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: or met her, and I'm told that bothers Rogers not 307 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: because of the story that his wife's fake, but because 308 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: the wives and girlfriends of his teammate appear to have 309 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: cooperated with the story, however anonymously. 310 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: Also, the new. 311 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: Narrative is that Tomlin could be the coach of the 312 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: New York Giants at some point in the not through 313 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: distant future, because they just fired their coach. Rich Eisen 314 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: on the NFL Networks that it would be a great fit. 315 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: Mike Greenberg on the ESPN said it would be a 316 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: great fit. And now that has evolved locally too. The 317 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: Steelers should trade Tomlin to the New York Giants for 318 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: their first round pick. 319 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: Ay, that's going to be a pretty good pick. Why 320 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: would they do that? 321 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: Why would they bring in a defensive coach whose offense 322 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: operates in the Paleozoic era. Why would they bring him 323 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: in to inflict that on their promising young quarterback Jackson 324 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: Darts three? Why would anybody think Tomlin would do well there? 325 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: Tomlin inherited the dog's bollocks for the situation here in Pittsburgh. 326 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: Inherited a team two years off winning a Super Bowl 327 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: that already had great players, leaders and a culture in place. 328 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: He's going to go some place like New York and 329 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: he would just fail miserably like he has for most 330 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: of the final half of his resume here in Pittsburgh. 331 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: And fourth, and most importantly, the Steelers just aren't going 332 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: to do that. 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Kind of anticlimactic when 377 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, but we know. Joining me now to talk Steelers. 378 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: He covers the team for the athletic key is Mike 379 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: de Febo. Mike, the Steelers picked up as sante Samuel Junior, 380 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: the cornerback who just had spinal fusion about a year ago. 381 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: How ready will he be to come in and contribute? 382 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: And boy, if you're lying a guy like that after 383 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: you've already played nine games, that says a lot about 384 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: your roster at defensive back. 385 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. I think that that's the biggest thing is there's 386 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 6: an opportunity there. They believe that they had turned the 387 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 6: cornerback position into a strength. Now they have to move 388 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 6: Jalen Ramsey to safety full time. At times, he's looked 389 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 6: like he's thirty one years old. Darius Slay looks like 390 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 6: he's thirty four years old, and not to mention that 391 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 6: move to safety by Jalen Ramsey has diminished or depleted 392 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 6: their cornerback room to some degree. So you know, he's 393 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 6: on the practice odd to start. I don't expect he'll 394 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 6: stay there very long, just because he had other options 395 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 6: and he wanted to come to Pittsburgh recognizing that there 396 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 6: was an opportunity here. He primarily is an outside corner, 397 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 6: but he also has played in the slot, and I 398 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 6: think the Steelers could use bodies in both of those positions. 399 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 6: So I would expect to see him. You know, I 400 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 6: don't know if we'll be up to speed for this week, 401 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 6: but sooner than later, I think he's going to be 402 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 6: a meaningful contributor to that defense. 403 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: I hear that Valdez Scantling is likely to get a 404 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: helmet for Sunday against Cincinnati. 405 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: What do you hear? What kind of role might he 406 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: step into? 407 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, his participation is picked up with each practice, and 408 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 6: you know that Aaron Rodgers behind the scenes is surely 409 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 6: doing some lobbying. He likes Valdez Scantling. You know, at 410 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 6: one point in his career he had four to three 411 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 6: speed and could stress a defense vertically. You know now, 412 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 6: I don't know that he still has that top end speed, 413 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 6: and I also don't know that the Steelers offense is 414 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 6: that kind of offense. But he's a pretty willing blocker. 415 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 6: I would expect him to take some snaps from Ben Scoronick, 416 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 6: who kind of has that role currently a little bit. 417 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 6: And just because the fact that Rogers trusts MBS, I 418 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 6: think he's going to get opportunities because how could you 419 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 6: gain trust when you throw the ball to Calvin Austin, 420 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 6: hits him in the hands and turns into an interception. 421 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 6: You know, how can you trust Roman Wilson when it's 422 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 6: been this long. So I think for all those reasons, 423 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 6: you know, I would expect him to start playing sooner 424 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 6: than later, and I would expect Rogers to be targeted 425 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 6: him sooner than later. 426 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: Today, at his press briefing, Mike Tomlins said that Jalen 427 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: Warren can't play more because the Steelers don't convert third downs. 428 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: Okay, so play him on third down. 429 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: It seems to me the simplest way to get warn 430 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: more touches, Mike is to just give him more touches. 431 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would agree. I think that he's earned the 432 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 6: opportunity to be a real lead back, and also he's 433 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 6: just so good in past protection situations. I mean, I 434 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 6: remember sitting there watching the game live and they had 435 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 6: Caleb Johnson in when they were down by the goal line, 436 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 6: and I'm thinking, man, this is going to go really 437 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 6: poorly because he's just not good in pass protection. And 438 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 6: you know, they gave it to him a couple of 439 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 6: times and then a few plays later, ultimately he took 440 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 6: the sack for the safety. But I just think that 441 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 6: Jalen he earned his It's interesting because most backs like 442 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 6: Caleb Johnson, you say, are they going to be hold up? 443 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 6: Be able to hold up in pass protection? But that's 444 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 6: how Jalen Warren earned his opportunity into this league. And 445 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 6: just because he now has ascended to the top of 446 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 6: the depth chart, I think you don't want to take 447 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 6: away something that he was so good at, and that 448 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 6: was being a throwd down back in order to, you know, 449 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 6: help you in other areas. So I think it definitely 450 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 6: makes sense to play Jalen Moore more and more, to 451 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 6: give him the ball more, and to feature him in 452 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 6: all his many talents. 453 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: That Los Angeles seemed damaging. Mike like it left the Mark, 454 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: Am I reading too much into that? 455 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 6: No, I think you're right, Mark, and it was significant 456 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 6: because you know, I'm not overseeing it when I say 457 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 6: there's a non zero chance that they could have missed 458 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 6: their chance to make the playoffs because of that loss, 459 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 6: Because you know, when you look at it right now, 460 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 6: there's a real possibility that three teams from the AFC 461 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 6: West could make the playoffs, and there's a real possibility 462 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 6: that comes down to a tiebreaker between the Chargers and 463 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 6: the Steelers for which of those teams makes the wild cards. 464 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 6: And there's a real chance that head to head could 465 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 6: be that tiebreaker that keeps the Steelers out. So you know, 466 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 6: we have some nerd that has some model with computers 467 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 6: and analytics and stuff, and he claims that the Steelers' 468 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 6: chances of making the playoffs went from like fifty eight 469 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 6: percent before that game to now like thirty two percent 470 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 6: after that game. So I think that that accurately reflects 471 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 6: how damaging that loss was. Not to mention, I think 472 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 6: that some of the warning signs about Aaron Rodgers play 473 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 6: or some of the concerns that we had, even though 474 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 6: I want to be clear, he's played at a much 475 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 6: higher level than I anticipated. Some of the concerns about 476 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 6: can't he throw the ball down field? 477 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: Still? 478 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 6: You know, what's it going to happen when he is 479 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 6: he going to be willing to take the hits necessary 480 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 6: to make those types of plays. You know, a lot 481 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 6: of the concerns that I had before the year, I 482 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 6: didn't really see them through the first couple of games. 483 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 6: A lot of those concerns reared their ugly head in 484 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 6: this one. And so you have to ask, is this 485 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 6: just a blip on the radar and a hiccup, or 486 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 6: is this an early warning sign of things to come? 487 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 6: Because in Pittsburgh we have seen this story before. We 488 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 6: have seen an old and aging quarterback look pretty good 489 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 6: through the first half or three quarters of the season, 490 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 6: only to see the whole thing collapse upon itself as 491 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 6: the season continues. And you know, in part of my brain, 492 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 6: I'm sitting here thinking, is this going to be like 493 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 6: the eleven zero start with Ben Roethlisberger that fell apart 494 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 6: down the end? Is this going to be like last 495 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 6: year when we were talking about the Steelers maybe using 496 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 6: the transition to tag to retain Russell Wilson, only to 497 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 6: see his career basically go up in flames over the end. 498 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 6: You know, how is Aaron Rodgers going to respond after 499 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 6: his first poor performance as a Steeler? 500 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: No, I think that's worth asking. 501 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: And one thing that people overlook, not just with Rogers, 502 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: but with the older players on the roster. Mic older 503 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: players don't rally and get better in the second half 504 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: of the season. They just get older and more tired. 505 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: But Rogers specifically, he was so bad at LA it 506 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: made me wonder if I've overrated how he's played to 507 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: this point. It made me kind of do the report 508 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: cards thing, and I grated him a C plus on 509 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: the year, and beyond the bad stats. On Sunday, I 510 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: thought he looked sloppy and rattled. I thought he looked 511 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: bad in ways that could easily be seen to likely 512 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: carry forward. 513 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think one of the biggest things that stuck 514 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 6: out to me is it didn't look like he wanted 515 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 6: to be hit. You know, a lot of those throws 516 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 6: that were inaccurate. I felt like if he stepped up 517 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 6: in the pocket threw off of two feet, it might 518 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 6: have been a more accurate pass. But when you're worried 519 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 6: about getting hit and you're throwing off of your back foot, 520 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 6: you're going to have ball sale on you, You're gonna 521 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 6: have inaccuracy issues, and so yeah, I think that, you know, 522 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 6: for the more large part of the season, I think 523 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 6: he's done basically anything you could have asked out of 524 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 6: a forty one year old quarterback. But he looked like 525 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 6: a forty one year old quarterback that didn't really want 526 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 6: to be hit and didn't feel confident in anyone not 527 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 6: named DK Metcalf to throw the football too. 528 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: We're talking to Mike the fable of the athletic. He's 529 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: brought to us by Armstrong the Internet. You kind of 530 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: on the people you trust Armstrong one Wired dot Com. Mike, 531 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: did the offensive line take a step backwards at LA 532 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: because Rogers was under siege and the Chargers never blitzed once? 533 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 2: They say, I think the guy. 534 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 6: Who took the biggest step back was Broderick Jones. You know, 535 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 6: he allowed three sacks in the first game against the Jets. 536 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 6: He had allowed three sacks since then, but he really 537 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 6: had a rough game overall. And I'm you know, as 538 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 6: I watched back through it, they talked so much about 539 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 6: their failures on third down. On both of their first 540 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 6: two third downs, Broderick Jones got beat early and inside, 541 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 6: and that's where you can't get beaten. If you get 542 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 6: beat wide and you give your quarterback a chance to 543 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 6: step up in the pocket or you know you you 544 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 6: fight through it, you're giving your quarterback a chance. But 545 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 6: Rogers had no chance when when Broderick was beaten early 546 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 6: and inside, and fellow Tanu has continued to develop with 547 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 6: each game that he gets, I'm gaining more and more 548 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 6: confidence in him, and I think he's going to be 549 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 6: a solid right tackle. You know, before too long, he's 550 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 6: he's been solid or better than that through most of 551 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 6: the season. He had a rare, uncharacteristically up and down performance. 552 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 6: You know, specifically, he was responsible to some degree for 553 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 6: that that safety. So those are really the two guys 554 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 6: that had the toughest outings in that game. And Broderick 555 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 6: in particular was the one that really you know, he 556 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 6: had a poor game overall. For sure. 557 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: Why are the tight ends not bigger factors? After all 558 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: that talk before the season about what a diverse room 559 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: it was that they had a lot of guys who 560 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: can do a lot of different things. 561 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 2: They are all minor factors. 562 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 6: I agree with you, Mark, I mean right now, they 563 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 6: have two of the ten highest paid tight ends in 564 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 6: Pat fryar Muth and Johnny Smith, And right now they're 565 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 6: receiving stats in terms of like receptions, receiving yards, they're 566 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 6: between twenty and thirty in the league, and they're just 567 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 6: you can't justify paying two top ten tight ends if 568 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 6: you're not getting them in the football And part of 569 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 6: it is Pat Frarmuth and john who have somewhat overlapping 570 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 6: skill sets. So Pat Frymuth snaps are down because our 571 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 6: this Smith is going to favor his guy, Johnny Smith, 572 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 6: and that just begs the question are they redundant? Do 573 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 6: you really need two guys who have such similar skill 574 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 6: sets that you're paying too much if you're not going 575 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 6: to build an offense that highlights them in the passing game? 576 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 6: And right now, I just I just feel like what 577 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,239 Speaker 6: they're trying to do is trick people by putting this 578 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 6: big personnel on the field and get a tight end 579 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 6: against the linebacker, whereas the rest of the league says, 580 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,719 Speaker 6: we'll just put a wide receiver out there who can 581 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 6: beat a nickel corner. And so they've taken this approach 582 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 6: and at this point, you know, it's producing the results 583 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 6: that you see on the field. 584 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: Is DK Metcalf a bust so far what's happened there, 585 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: His impact has been absolutely minimal. 586 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 6: You know, I don't think he's a total bust. I 587 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 6: think he's still a pretty good player. But I think 588 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 6: there's one thing that works, and that's throwing quick slants 589 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 6: to DK and letting him create after the catch. And 590 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 6: the problem is Rogers isn't attacking downfield. The offensive line 591 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 6: isn't protecting well enough to do it, he's not buying 592 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 6: enough time to do it, he's not willing to take 593 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 6: the hits, and he's not accurate enough to attack downfield. 594 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 6: And that's one half of what DK Metcalf does well. 595 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 6: Is he was, at one poin in his career one 596 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 6: of the better or one of the best go ball 597 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 6: receivers in the NFL. But when you take one half 598 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 6: of that away, and then the other part is he 599 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 6: does have a history of drops and those drops have 600 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 6: been a problem, and his hands have been inconsistent, and 601 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 6: so you know they're asking a lot out of him. 602 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 6: There's also in the most recent game, it also seemed 603 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 6: like the Chargers really had a good plan. Their plan 604 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 6: was in a lot of instances they were either doubling 605 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 6: him in man coverage or in zone coverage they had 606 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 6: a safety over top of him. And so when when 607 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 6: you're getting that much dedicated to him to take him 608 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 6: out of the game, you're counting upon some of these 609 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 6: other guys to step up. And that's where the lack 610 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 6: of depth at that position is really showing up and 611 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 6: really becoming a problem. So I agree with you that 612 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 6: DK hasn't been as impactful as you would have hoped. 613 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 6: And I also think that the lack of talent around 614 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 6: him is also hurting his chances. 615 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: That the defense play well at LA because it's being 616 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: made out that the offense let down the defense, and 617 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: the offense was terrible. I'm not sure how great the 618 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: defense really was with no takeaways. 619 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, they were fine. They weren't the reason why the 620 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 6: Steelers lost, but they also weren't the reason why the 621 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 6: Steelers won. And it seems like they're just so turnover 622 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 6: dependent and this is such a jeckal and high defense 623 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 6: where they can play the number one offense in the 624 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 6: NFL and produce five turnovers and look really good, but 625 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 6: they can also give up thirty plus points to you know, 626 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 6: a sixty five year old Joe Flacco who's dinner by himself, 627 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 6: and it seems like it's one or the other. It's 628 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 6: either five turnovers or thirty points and you're getting nothing 629 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 6: really in between. So you know, in the most recent game, 630 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 6: I felt like that the defense for the first half 631 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 6: kept them in it. And you know, it was five 632 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 6: to three when Rogers threw the interception. It gave the 633 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 6: Chargers of the ball at the thirty eight yard line. 634 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 6: Fifteen of those yards in the scoring draft team when 635 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 6: Brandon Eckles was burned. So the problem with defense is 636 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 6: it's a weak link unit. And right now they've identified 637 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 6: the link in that game was Brandon Eckles, and they 638 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 6: targeted him and they exposed him. So you could spend 639 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 6: as much money as you want on defense, but if 640 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 6: there's one guy who's susceptible on your defense, they're going 641 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 6: to target that guy and they're going to expose him. 642 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 6: And I think that that's what's happening time and time 643 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 6: against his defense. 644 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: Why is Flaco such a problem for the Steelers with 645 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: this game at home against since he coming up in 646 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: him at quarterback, he's their boge quarterback. 647 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, in the last game, he had the quickest 648 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,239 Speaker 6: time to throw of any quarterback to Steelers' face, and 649 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 6: really a lot of it was just getting the ball 650 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 6: out of his hands and getting it to Jamar Chase, 651 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 6: who set a franchise record with sixteen receptions. So when 652 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 6: you're an old guy who can't move very well, the 653 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 6: one thing you have his experience, and in this case 654 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 6: of Joe Flacco, a lot of experience with the Pittsburgh 655 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 6: Steelers defense that hasn't changed much since Joe Flacco won 656 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 6: a Super Bowl in Baltimore. He's been facing Mike Tomlin's defense, 657 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 6: which hasn't changed a lot for years. He knows the 658 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 6: soft spots in the zones, he knows what coverages to 659 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 6: anticipate and to expect, and he's just taking full advantage 660 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 6: and just picking them apart. And so in this game, 661 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 6: you know, I think it very much could be another 662 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 6: shootout where you're you're asking Aaron Rodgers to put up 663 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 6: thirty five points, and even that might not get the 664 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 6: job done. Because as talented as Key Higgins and Jamar 665 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 6: Chase are, even a guy like Joe Flacco in his 666 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 6: advanced age is experienced enough and still has enough left 667 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 6: to get those guys the football. And because those guys 668 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 6: are so dynamic, you know, it makes it absolute nightmare 669 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 6: for teams, especially like the Steelers, to slow them down. 670 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and in that vein, Mike, this game is a trap, 671 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean in every sense of the word. Since he's 672 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,479 Speaker 1: kind of still in the race. Burrow thinks they are 673 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: and he's practicing, and that Bengals defense sucks. But the 674 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: Steelers offense could stop itself. It wouldn't shock me if 675 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: the Bengals scored thirty points and the Steelers scored ten 676 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: and their failure on offense had nothing to do with 677 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: the Bengals defense. 678 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. In recent years, this Bengals defense has been the 679 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 6: cure all for whatever has ailed the Steelers offense. But 680 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 6: in this one, you know, how do you restart things 681 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 6: after such a dismal performance? And it is that performance 682 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 6: versus the Chargers going to carry over. And so I 683 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 6: think that I agree with you, Mark, I think that 684 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 6: this could be a disappointing day for the Pittsburgh Steelers. 685 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: Finally, is Tomlin doing a good job, bad job or 686 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: in different job, Mike? And will he be traded to 687 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: the New York Giants like everybody wants now in national media. 688 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 6: I think Tom's doing the same job that he has 689 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 6: for the last decade, which is just enough to get 690 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 6: the team ten and seven and preserve the non losing 691 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 6: season streak, but maybe not much more. I mean I 692 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 6: think that considering he has his fingerprints all over this defense, 693 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 6: and largely if you look at the entire sample size, 694 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 6: the defense has been what's let them down more often 695 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 6: than not, I think he has to shoulder a considerable 696 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 6: amount of the blame. That said, the Pittsburgh Steelers do 697 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 6: things their way, and I just feel like, even though 698 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 6: it might make a tremendous amount of sense for the 699 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 6: Giants to trade for Tomlin, and a lot of fans 700 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 6: in Pittsburgh would probably love the idea of moving on 701 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 6: and having a fresh start, I feel like the Steelers 702 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 6: aren't going to want to conduct a search to find 703 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 6: their next coach for the next twenty five years, and 704 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 6: I think they're gonna view it just like that that 705 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 6: they have to find a guy for the next twenty years, 706 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 6: and for that reason, I think they'll take the risk 707 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 6: adverse and the conservative approach and keep Tomlin and keep 708 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 6: doing the same on things. 709 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 2: Same as it ever was Mike, great stuff. Thank you 710 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 2: for taking the time. 711 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 6: Absolutely, Mark, thank you for having me. 712 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: That's Mike de Fabo. Time not to ask Mark anything. 713 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: Get your calls in eight three three four one two 714 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: wxdx eight three three four one two wxdx, or leave 715 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: a talkback via the microphone icon on the iHeartMedia app. 716 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: Do it now and you can ask Mark Anything. 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Thanks to all the 733 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: veterans out there. Fifty guys who played for the Steelers 734 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: served in World War Two. Wow, over fifty over fifty 735 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: Steelers served in World War Two, including Aaron Rodgers and 736 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: Darius Slay. 737 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 2: Uh. Let's go to Greg, Greg. 738 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 6: What up? What up? 739 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 4: Mark? Talk? 740 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 5: Hey? 741 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 6: I was wondering what's uh? 742 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 9: Hey, I was wondering what your opinion was on the 743 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 9: penalty called on the Kudos in the last game of 744 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 9: your Mark Medden tournament on Sunday, The rocking call in overtime. 745 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, obvious call. Obvious check. Thank you for the call. 746 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, a penalty in overtime is the same as call 747 00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: it a penalty any other time. 748 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 2: Let's go to Dick in Churchill, Dick, what's up? 749 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 10: So you know, I'm sure we all remember a few 750 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 10: games ago when I think it was Warren didn't get 751 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 10: the memo with the fleef liquor or whatever, and he 752 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 10: gave it back to Rogers, and Rogers like threw it 753 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 10: on the turf. 754 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,280 Speaker 2: In disgust, it seemed. 755 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 8: And that brings me to Sunday night where that fourth 756 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 8: and sixth to DK metcalf It seemed like it had 757 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 8: absolutely no chance, and I just wonder if Rogers it 758 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 8: was almost his way of saying, you know what, this 759 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 8: is all you're gonna give me. 760 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: No, that's not his way of subtly suggesting he's unhappy. 761 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: He's trying to throw a touchdown to get the Steelers 762 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: back in the game. However, if you injected Rogers with 763 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: sodium pentathal truth serum, I would love to ask him 764 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: if playing for the Steelers is anything like he thought 765 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: it would be, because I doubted it is. I adopted 766 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: it's lift up to the expectations he had before he 767 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: signed with the Steelers. Let's go to Dave. 768 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 4: Ask Mark anything, Hey, Mark, check it out. 769 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 6: Do you hear about that Antonio bron thing where he 770 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 6: grabbed the security guards guards Guy's gune, Yeah. 771 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: I think that's the case. He got extradited for correct 772 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 1: brought back to America. 773 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 4: I believe so, I believe it is. 774 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 775 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,720 Speaker 1: I mean, does anything goofy that ab does really surprise 776 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: you at this point. 777 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 4: No, he's a piece of work. 778 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: I said back when he played for the Steelers, said 779 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: wind up in jail. That may yet happen. Let's go 780 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: to Dave Dave ass Mark anything him. 781 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 6: Mark Hey, next week in Greensburg is Queen's Reich and 782 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 6: accept and I just want to getr opinion on those 783 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 6: bands or if that's to show you at its. 784 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 2: Tenth, no interest whatsoever. 785 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: I like a couple accept songs like Fast as a 786 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: Shark and of course Balls to the Wall. But no, 787 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: I'm especially not a big fan of Queen's Reich. I've 788 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: met Todd Dlatori, their new singer, a bunch of times. 789 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: He's an okay, I hated what was the Jeff Tate 790 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: I interviewed him on a dink. 791 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 2: I don't much like their song, so I'm not gonna go. 792 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 6: Let's go to a talkback, Mark, what will it take 793 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 6: for coach t to regain your trust? 794 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: It can't happen. He's been too bad for too long. 795 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: I think he's a phony. I think he's a horseman 796 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: or artist. I don't like him, and I wouldn't let 797 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: trust him to wash my car let alone coach my 798 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: football team. 799 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 2: He is the single most. 800 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: Overrated coach in sports history, not just football sports history. 801 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 2: Let's go to David David Eskmark anything. 802 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 4: Hey. 803 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 9: I was wondering if Edmonton misses the playoffs, which doesn't 804 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,240 Speaker 9: seem all that unlikely right now. Do you think McDavid 805 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 9: would force his way out of there, Well. 806 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: He signed a two year contract, you know, to give 807 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 1: them a chance to defecate or get off the pot. 808 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: But you know he's been in the last two Stanley 809 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: Cup finals. He slumped at the end of both of 810 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: those series. I think he has to take X amount 811 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: of blame. But I don't think this year would hasten 812 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: his exit. But I think I don't know. I think 813 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: if they don't win a Cup by the end of 814 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: next season, I think at that point they have to 815 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: trade him unless he signs another extension. 816 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I know you talked about how they need 817 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,760 Speaker 9: a goalie, but they're just no one. 818 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 2: To get nobody to get correct. Let's go to a. 819 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 6: Talkback super genius Eric and Toledo. Who was the better 820 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 6: number fifty five Sergei Gonchar or Larry Murphy? 821 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: Thanks, Wow, that's a tough one. 822 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 2: If you made me pick one at pick Murph. 823 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: Just a little bit better all around, a little bigger, 824 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: slightly more physical, not much. Both go to the power play. 825 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 1: Gons better than the power play. Murph's in the Hall 826 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: of fame gunch should be. That is a really tough question. 827 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: If you make me pick one, I'll go with Murph, 828 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,720 Speaker 1: but I have mad love and respect for Gaunch as well. 829 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,760 Speaker 2: Let's go to a talkback. 830 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 11: Super genius Bob from Brookline. I can say nothing with 831 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 11: zero words. Why does it take Mike Tomlin ten thousand words? 832 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: Whemy, I'm Mark Man and getting ready to go to 833 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: McCartney in an hour or so. 834 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 2: One O five ninety x on our website, deposit that's