1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: This music means one thing and one thing only. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: No, we're not watching Deliverance A ninety three point three KJFN. 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 2: We're headed to Tuscaloosa, Alabama, where they have had let's 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: just say, and interesting last twenty four hours since the 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: drubbing at the hands of Mendoza and the Hoosiers and 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: our friend, our best friend, maybe our only friend from Tuscaloosa. 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: Maybe I know somebody else from Tuscalosa, but I know 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: Ryan Fowler, Ryan the voice of the Tide. If people 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: turn to the Tide to listen to Tide Radio, it 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: is Ryan Fowler and Tuscalusa. 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: How are you, man, Well, I'm not. 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 3: Worth a flip, to be honest with you. It's been 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 3: a round twenty four hours. Yes, it's been bad. It's 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: been bad. It's uh yeah, it's not been a good day. 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 4: It's not been a good evening. 17 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 3: I mean the sun did come up, but barely here 18 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: in Tuscalousa. 19 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: Well, it it is not fun for Tied fans. I 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: know we've been here for Husky losses and you know, 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: crushing losses. We had won in the National Championship Game 22 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. But you know when it 23 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: comes to your radio show, I'm sure in one hundred 24 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 2: point nine the game in Tuscaloosa, I mean, my goodness, 25 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: it's it's it's like somebody took a bat to a beehive, right, 26 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: I mean, your next eight months on your radio show 27 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: is gonna be something else, maybe even maybe even more 28 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: interesting than had the Tide won a couple more games. 29 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a unique offseason because there's gonna be 30 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 3: a lot of discussions with you know, what's next, what's next? 31 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 4: And how do you fix the issues? 32 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: And and there is so many different conversations, you know. 33 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: I started writing down my rep sheet this morning at about 34 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: eight o'clock and I wrote down a lot of different notes, 35 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: and I'm going, all right, you know what changes need 36 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: to be made, And I do think that there's. 37 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 4: Some and I think that Caleni, but we's gonna make 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 4: some of those. 39 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 3: You're gonna have to upgrade in some of your coaching 40 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: staff areas. I think you to make an upgrade of 41 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: the offensive line. I think when you look at that 42 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: group as a unit, was just you know, not where 43 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: it needed to be. I mean, they got whipped in 44 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage all season. It would just last 45 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: not against Indiana, it was it was pretty much the 46 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: entire season. 47 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,399 Speaker 4: You look at, you know, running the football. 48 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: I know you guys know a lot about that, and 49 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: I'm sure there was probably some frustration that's probably echoed 50 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 3: by Seattle fans last year of running the football with 51 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: Ryn Grubb. 52 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 4: There's some of that. It's gonna be a long offseason. 53 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: I mean it's two hundred and forty five six days 54 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: away from the next game. It'll be a long off season. 55 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 3: You can remember, we don't have anything to distract us. 56 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 3: So it's not like you got Mariners baseball. You got 57 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 3: Seahawks that are doing great. By the way, I'm pulling 58 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: for you guys. Somehow you guys have turned me into 59 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: a Seattle Seahawks fan. 60 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: There we go. 61 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 4: It's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. 62 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: So I'm I'm pulling for you guys because I'm an 63 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: old Cowboys guy. So I'm maybe y'all can beat that 64 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: team that's up on the Northeast a little bit. I 65 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: do you guys to pound them a little bit. So, 66 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: but it's gonna be a long off season. It's gonna 67 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 3: be a rough one. It's gonna be a rough one. 68 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: And you just wrapped up your show for the first 69 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: day after that game. What was the general emotion was 70 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: it anger? Was it fire him now? Or was it Hey, 71 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: you know he's gonna be our guy. We can turn 72 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: this around. Like, what was the general feeling from your 73 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: listenership today. 74 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: Well, only the ignorant fans are talking about firing Calin 75 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: of Bor, the ones that don't know a football from 76 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: a soccer ball. Okay, the ones who understand it, understand 77 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: that he stepped in, and I gotta give Softy this credit. Okay, 78 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: he stepped in the hardest job in the history of 79 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: college football. And I add to that, I think it's 80 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: the hardest job in the history of sports because you've 81 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: got to understand he's not only replacing the greatest of 82 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: all time, he's. 83 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 4: Doing it during an era that where college football is chaotic. Right. 84 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: Nick Saban retired because he couldn't do it to the 85 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: level that he was expected to do it, right. I mean, 86 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: he he hung up the headsets because he couldn't maintain 87 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: the standard. So Nick Saban quit when things got rough. 88 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: I mean, and I know this will probably make it 89 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 3: back Tuscaloos and the fans of hamm review for this, 90 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: but it did. I mean Nick Saban quit when time's 91 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: got rough, and Kaylini Bleer raised his hand and said, 92 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: I'll follow the greatest of all time. The fans who 93 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: understand that appreciate what he's been able to do. He 94 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 3: did something in year number two that we didn't do 95 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,239 Speaker 3: in year number one college football playoffs, going on the road, 96 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: getting that road you know, loss out of his system 97 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 3: right because Alabama was not a good road team this 98 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 3: year away from Bryant. Did he stadium may beat everybody. 99 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: I mean, they took care of business on the road. 100 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: It was the the you know, the Oklahoma loss and 101 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: home stings. The SEC title game in a neutral field, 102 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: its stings. The Florida State non conference is one of 103 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: the road losses. And you thought early on, but the 104 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: way that he navigated that, I think there is an appreciation, 105 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 3: but I think there's also an understanding that there's still 106 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: some work to do. And the barometer was Indiana and 107 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: you realize that there's a gap between where Alabama is 108 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: now and where they want to be. So you've got 109 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 3: a lot of fans that are asking, you know, for 110 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 3: him to make some coaching changes. They know they're going 111 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 3: to upgrade in personnel, but not really the reasonable fans. 112 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 4: You know, you got the. 113 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: Walmart jersey crowd, Yes, they are, well you know what I'm. 114 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 4: Talking about, the fake jerseys. Yeah, okay, okay, okay, sorry, 115 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 4: I got to know. 116 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: I hear you here, We've got Walmarts here. 117 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: I got to right, Let's just talk about the coaching 118 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: then yesterday. How much of it was coaching? How much 119 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: of it was a massive talent gap? Or was there 120 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: a massive talent gap? I don't think Alabama's five touchdowns 121 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 2: worse than Indiana talent wise. I mean I didn't think 122 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 2: going into the game Alabama really was inferior to Indiana 123 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: talent wise. Maybe I was wrong, But how much was 124 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 2: coaching in your mind? And how much was the Jimmies 125 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: and Joe's Oh, I think. 126 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 3: The talent Alabama's got a lot of talent. But I 127 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: look back at a call and you guys know, kaylin 128 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 3: Bor probably better than a lot of us in Tusca Lussa. 129 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 3: He's a very aggressive guy with his with his decisions. 130 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: You're going down fourth down, yep, on the thirty yard line. 131 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: I know exactly where you're going. 132 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, And if I remember correctly. Did he do that 133 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 4: against Washington State? 134 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: And yes, he ran and around to Roma Duneesa and 135 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: it actually worked and they ended up winning the game. 136 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: But I you know, Softie and I right, and I'm 137 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: gonna let you finish with Soathie and I have battled 138 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: over Ryan Grubb and his play calm for a couple 139 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: of years. I thought he was horrible when he was 140 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: with the Hawks. I appreciate the success of the U 141 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: doub offense under him, but I had issues with him 142 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: because I thought he was reckless in his decisions to 143 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: go for it on fourth down and he went full 144 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: Grub again on that play. But my question to you is, 145 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: do you believe it's Grub telling Kaylan, hey, we gotta 146 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: go for it. I got to play, we gotta go 147 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: for it. Or do you think it's Kaylan on the 148 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: headset saying we're going for this. Give me a play 149 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: call Ryan, Well, I think. 150 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 4: It's the Boar talked about it. 151 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: He called a time out to even give himself more 152 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: time to think about it, and still decided. And I 153 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: think what he was trying to do is Alabama was 154 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: not playing with any confidence at this point. Indiana was 155 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: playing with a tremendous amount of confidence. I mean, the 156 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: swagger was there, the energy, the vib was there for Indiana. 157 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 4: It was not for Alabama. 158 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: And I think what the boor was trying to do 159 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,239 Speaker 3: is breathe confidence in this team to get their little 160 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: mojo back, and it didn't work. You know, it was 161 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: you know, another six inches and we could sit here 162 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: and be talking about, my god, the guy's brilliant. 163 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 4: I mean, did you see that? 164 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: And then what happened was Indiana took advantage of that, 165 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: and then here goes the fumble with a quarterback run 166 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: for Tys Simpson, the play that ends up putting him 167 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 3: in an injury where he said that he fractured a 168 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 3: rip that the X rays revealed. So it looks back 169 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: at those little moments right there, you know, the second quarter. 170 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: I know they scored early in the second quarter, but 171 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: seventeen points. It was the part that I didn't see 172 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: a fight in Alabama and an all season, this team 173 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: had grinded and it was almost like they were out 174 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 3: of gas. And you know, you got to credit Indiana. 175 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: I think Indiana's probably gonna go on and win a 176 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: national title. In an Alabama perspective, that might soften the 177 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 3: blow two weeks from now. But it's it's pretty painful 178 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: in Tuscabloosa. But not a lot of people are giving 179 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 3: up on Caleb Boor because there was two powerful coaches 180 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: excuse me, oh vacancies that fought over trying to get 181 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 3: him right, Penn stated Michigan, and they were doing everything 182 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 3: that they possibly could. And I think that creates some 183 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: appreciation for caleible or understanding to stick it out. And 184 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: I think this fan base, the majority of them understand 185 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 3: that they're frustrated. As you know, the word fanatic, it 186 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 3: comes into play. 187 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: I always thought it was an odd fit for Kaylen 188 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: to Boor to go to Alabama. I thought the much 189 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: more natural fit would have been to go to Michigan. Uh, 190 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: and that was coming from Washington. He decided, though, to 191 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: go to Alabama. How do you think that all played 192 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: out with Michigan? I mean, how hard do you think 193 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: they came after him? And why do you think if 194 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: they If you do, in fact think that they put 195 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: put a piece of paper in. 196 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: Front of him, said sign this. Why did you think 197 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: he said no? 198 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 4: No? And I don't think it ever got to him right. 199 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 3: If there's one thing we know about Caitlin Bor, He's 200 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: not gonna lie to you. 201 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 4: He's going to be a guy that's going to be 202 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: upfront with you. 203 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 3: I don't think they ever got to him, and I 204 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: don't think Penn State, you know, source have told me 205 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: that he didn't have an interest there, even though they 206 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 3: had an interest in him and they wanted to come 207 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: after him and a strong I don't think that would 208 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 3: ever got to his desk or his agent's desk or whatever. 209 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 3: But I think the Michigan there was some There was 210 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 3: some anks here in Tuscaloosa. I mean it was a 211 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: rough five or six days, you know, you know, because 212 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 3: they were going to make an offer that was just unbelievable. 213 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: So I do think that there was at least some 214 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 3: conversations with his agent in Michigan making sure that it 215 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: could have been just Michigan gauging interest. Now, Jimmy Sexton 216 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: plays everybody, right, I mean, this is who Jimmy Sexton is. 217 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: You know, he could get a dollar out of a 218 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 3: homeless guy on the street, right, I mean, I mean 219 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: he could go and squeeze and get that dollar, give 220 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 3: me that last dollar. That's who Jimmy Sexon is. So 221 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 3: I'm sure that was some of those moves. But it 222 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 3: was also I wonder where if there is an extension, 223 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 3: because there was some discussion about that. And see, you 224 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 3: also have to wonder how the Indiana loss plays into that, 225 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: because if you're Greg Burn, can you come out from 226 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: a PR standpoint and give the Born extension? Maybe you 227 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 3: come out and put money in the NIL collective, or 228 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: you know, hey, we're more committed to this type of 229 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: resources or whatever. 230 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 4: But I don't know. 231 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: If you're Greg Byrn, can you add those two years 232 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 3: right now? Not from a PR standpoint, I don't know 233 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: if you can. But they had to have some type 234 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 3: of verbal agreement for them to move beyond the Michigan 235 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 3: talk because it went quiet in a hurry here in 236 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: Tusclus and it was heavy. It's all the fan base 237 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: wanted to talk about. All the fan base wanted to 238 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: talk about, what do you go to Michigan? 239 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 4: What do you go to Michigan? 240 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: So if it hadn't been for that, that probably less 241 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: than the blow of the Indiana game. 242 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: That's interesting. 243 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've and Ryan Follers joining us from the 244 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 2: game in TUSCALOOSAD, You've had the opportunity to talk to 245 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: him many times. Softie and I have had the opportunity 246 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: to talk to him many times, and I think, you know, 247 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: we're a little we've got a different because we've had 248 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: a we've had personal, you know, intricate times with Kaylen 249 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: de Bor many many times. We've got a different vibe 250 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 2: than you know, the typical Husky fan that had never 251 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: met him before, and just you know, screw you. 252 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: You went to Malabama, you left us. I get that. 253 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: I totally get why Husky fans are reveling in Kaylen 254 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: de Bor's failure this year. I don't revel in it, 255 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: but and I do look at him, and I there's 256 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 2: almost kind of a part of me that feels a 257 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: little bit sorry for him because he Ryan. 258 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: He looks old, you know how, Like you. 259 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: See like a nephew or a niece you haven't seen 260 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 2: in a year or two and they come over to 261 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: your house for dinner and you're like, oh my gosh, 262 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: you look so much older. 263 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 4: Ryan. 264 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: He looks five to ten ten years older than the 265 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: day he left Washington. 266 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: How hard has this been on him? 267 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: Because it just looks like this whole thing's taking a 268 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: toll on him. 269 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 3: Well, let me say this, he's lost a lot of 270 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: weight from that, and I think that probably is maybe 271 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 3: the change is just losing weight. 272 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 4: And I'm sure probably he's missed a few meals, right, 273 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 4: I mean, because this job. 274 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: I can't explain this job it really, I mean to 275 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 3: put it in your audience perspective. 276 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 4: Okay, this is about twenty fifth year of radio in 277 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 4: Tuscos this year. 278 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 3: No, actually last year it was twenty five, so it'll 279 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: be year number twenty six. I started in two thousand 280 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: and it's all we talk about. I do four hours 281 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 3: of Alabama football, five days a week. I talked nothing 282 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 3: about anything else. If I mentioned the NBA or the NFL, 283 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: my audience would flip over my toyota. 284 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 4: It just it would. I mean, it's just crazy. 285 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: Okay, there's a different demand down here. There's a different 286 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: understanding that your microscope. But I remember one of the 287 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 3: first conversations that I had with Caitlin of HR in February. 288 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 4: Of except the job. I was telling him. He was like, 289 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 4: tell me what you do. 290 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 3: And I told him and He's like, wow, that is 291 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 3: as crazy, Like what do you talk about. 292 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 4: So there's a different microscope that you're under. 293 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, fans are driving by the football 294 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: building at nine o'clock at night going is he still there? 295 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 4: Is he still working? I mean, I mean that's the topic. 296 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 4: I mean, you just. 297 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: Don't understand the scrutiny. And I'm listen it not to 298 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: coach Nick Saban. You got to remember back in twenty twelve, 299 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: twenty thirteen, you know, Miss Terry in Texas and that 300 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: fort there that was there from you know, talking about 301 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: the fan base didn't really appreciate them winning the three 302 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: national titles. And you know, because the twenty thirteen went 303 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: the other way and they lost on that kicked six 304 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: play to offer, and there was an appreciation, like the 305 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: fans don't really appreciate the winning. They do appreciate it, 306 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: but it's all they have to do. There is no 307 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: other distraction. And that's what's different about this job. And 308 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: I'm sure that comes to a different level of pressure. 309 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: But also understand that Calen de Board this year coached 310 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: his absolutely butt off to put this team in a 311 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 3: position to go win a playoff game, to make the playoffs. 312 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: This is not one of the most talented in Alabama teams, 313 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: even though you compared the talent to Indiana. The talent 314 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: here is not what a lot of people think it is. 315 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 3: There was a dip in talent that lasts three to 316 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: four years in coach Saban's tenure, and Caylen to Board 317 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 3: would never admit this, but I bet you he walked 318 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: in thinking this big talent, pull over here, and when 319 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: he gets here, he win. Where's the offensive lineman? Where 320 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 3: are these guys? Because those monsters that you think about 321 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 3: Alabama football, they were not here. 322 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was coming from the best offensive line 323 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: in football in Washington, the Joe morri winning offensive line, 324 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: and he goes to Alabama, he doesn't have the same guys. 325 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: He brought one or two of them with them. He 326 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: brought broils for with them. I mean, look look at 327 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: Josh Quavis. He didn't do anything for you guys. Look 328 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: at what he's here. I mean, he was a safety 329 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: outlet for this team. 330 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 3: And I don't know whether this team would be without 331 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: a Parker Brells or a Josh Quavis or a Germ. 332 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I just don't know where this team would be. 333 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: So if you, if you're a sensible fan, you look 334 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 3: at the young players that have made an impact. Those 335 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: are Kaelin of Boor's recruits. 336 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 4: Those are his guys. 337 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: Very few of these guys are Sabans, guys that were 338 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: left over that are making the impact. I'm not here 339 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: to crack on Nick Saban. I'm just trying to give 340 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 3: you some transparency to understand what he walked into. He 341 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 3: walked into a very difficult challenge if the cover would 342 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 3: have been completely stocked, but it wasn't. He walked into 343 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: a situation that Saban was having trouble hiring assistant coaches. 344 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 4: Here. 345 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: He couldn't recruit assistant coaches. I mean, I mean he 346 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 3: was recruiting guys that were two steps away from the 347 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: nursing home. And I don't mean that sarcastically. And you 348 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 3: got to remember Kevin Steele retired before he did, and 349 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 3: that was his defensive coordinator. I watched him at the 350 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 3: Rolls ball against Michigan. He barely couldn't get across the field. 351 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna have to go help a 352 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator get across the field, Like I mean, I'm 353 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 3: watching him and I'm going what I mean, This is 354 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: the coach Saban that was the last two or three years. 355 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 4: And most fans will never admit. 356 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 3: That because they don't understand the running backs that Alabama 357 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 3: had to deal with this year. The running backs were 358 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: those were saving guys. They were saving guys. Now, you 359 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 3: could also rebuttal and say you got the portal, go 360 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: plan it up, go pleaned it up. 361 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 4: Well, you gotta have a you gotta have a ton 362 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 4: of money right now. 363 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 3: And I think Alabama was lacking in that transfer portal 364 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 3: in Aisle Fun last year. 365 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 4: I think that's now has been cleaned up. And I 366 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 4: think that Michigan. 367 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 3: Job that may have been what helped kind of understand 368 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: you gotta spend money in college football. 369 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 4: This is U dub fans right there too. 370 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 3: If you want to be competitive, that's right. You gotta 371 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: find a way to spend money in the portal. If not, 372 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 3: you're not gonna be competitive. You got to buy your way. 373 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 4: To the top. 374 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: Ryan, we really appreciate it. 375 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: No, it's been a long day, a tough day for 376 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: you guys down there in Tuscaloosa. But thanks for shedding 377 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: light on the whole situation with us back here in Seattle. 378 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 2: Because as long as Kaitlyn de Bor is the coach 379 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 2: in Alabama, there's gonna be a lot of people interested 380 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: in Alabama football up here in Seattle, so we really 381 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 2: appreciate it. 382 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 4: Roll Todd sounds good. 383 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: That's uh, that's our friend Ryan Fowler from Tuscaloosa, Alabama. 384 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 2: We'll come back a little fun with audio before we 385 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 2: chat with Big al Kiniski on ninety three point three KJRFM. 386 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: But let's do a little fun with audio here a 387 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: little bit later in the show than usual. 388 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: Hey Jackson, did you hear that? 389 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 4: What's that? Dick? 390 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: Former Hurricanes receiver in Miami's biggest superfan, Michael Irvin, was 391 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 2: just a. 392 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 4: Li little bit excited. 393 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: After the team's stunning win over Ohio State and the convoy. 394 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 4: I'm I went to wait for what it's here now? 395 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 4: I ain't told them. I'm not led that story messed with. 396 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 5: My glory talking about how long damn it, how long 397 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 5: history is gone. 398 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 6: We are right here, right now, and. 399 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 4: Every team they thought was gonna beat us just taking 400 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 4: the ass. 401 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: I do think it's interesting how Michael's talking about their 402 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: Lee's talking about there like the revenge over a national 403 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: championship game that happened over twenty years ago. Yeah, this 404 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: wasn't a national championship game, so like, yeah, there's some revenge. 405 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 6: But like, is there a single person associated with either 406 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 6: program who was there twenty years ago? I mean, give 407 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 6: me an assistant, give me. 408 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 4: A ball boy. 409 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: Is there one person? 410 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 6: I don't think so. 411 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: I mean that would be like saying that if the 412 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: forty nine ers beat us tomorrow would be revenge on. 413 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: The tip game. 414 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: It's just like, No, it's a different level of football game. 415 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: Yes, tomorrow's game is really really big. It ain't the 416 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: NFC championship game. 417 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 2: Ohio State Miami in double overtime twenty three or whatever 418 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: years ago was a national championship game. 419 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: This was a quarterfinal. 420 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 6: Absolutely. I will say that. I think like Miami's one 421 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 6: of those teams in sports around the country that when like, 422 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 6: when they're good, it raises the tiger, the entire sport. 423 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 6: You know, it's it's USC, It's the Yankees, it's you know, 424 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 6: it's it's it's those teams were like I think everybody, 425 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 6: whether you hate them or you love them, and there's 426 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 6: a lot of hate, it just raises the tide. 427 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: No, that's right. 428 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 2: And I was in you know, high school college mostly 429 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: trying to think mostly high school when when Miami was 430 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: really really good and they were cool, I mean they. 431 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: Were, they were. 432 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: I loved watching I want them to kick Notre Dames 433 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: as every year if they played him in absolutely Hey Jackson, 434 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: you hear this I this morning on first Dake on ESPN. 435 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: Cam Newton, our old friend Cam Newton. Nobody loves Cam 436 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: Newton more than me and Hugh, that's for sure. Cam 437 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: Newton has some thoughts as they were discussing the topic 438 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 2: or the days of the SEC dominance in college football. 439 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: Over order, order order in. 440 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 5: The court because somebody has to speak reasoning to the 441 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 5: beautiful people of America and my American people. I will 442 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 5: have you to know that the SEC is not and 443 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 5: has not went anywhere. Why because every team in the 444 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 5: SEC does more numbers than every team in the Big Ten, 445 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 5: now TEA, the ACC, than everything. 446 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: Man. 447 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 6: Listen, at the end. 448 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 4: Of the day, everybody knows. 449 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 7: That if you want to go and get put on, 450 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 7: you still go to the SEC and have a great coach. 451 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 6: Signetti, is you still oh? 452 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 7: I'm not about to go watch Indiana football. 453 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 6: I don't prefer to go watch LSU. 454 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 5: Oh Miss They're great, Auburn, Alabama. 455 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 7: Uga, Tennessee, Arkansas, Missippi. 456 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 6: State Way for that watch State. 457 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 7: Wait before I watch at Michigan State, Iowa State, man, 458 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 7: Come on now, is the dominance over? 459 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 4: Yes? 460 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 7: Why is because the ability to pay players now, But 461 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 7: they still don't do the numbers that the SEC does. 462 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: Well. 463 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 2: Numbers and the better team are two separate things. Yes, 464 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: I mean the numbers, the number. Ryan Fowler explained why 465 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: the numbers are the numbers. People in the South live 466 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 2: and breathe. SEC football means more people in Big ten 467 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: country love their team, like their team. But you know what, 468 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: they also have NFL teams, right, They also have baseball teams, 469 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: They also have basketball teams. 470 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: They have other things going on in their lives. 471 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 6: Zippy in Alabama don't have that other than three. 472 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: Hundred and sixty. 473 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 2: So yeah, the ratings of the secre never gonna be bad. 474 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: The problem with the SEC is the talent is flooding 475 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 2: away from the SEC. 476 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 6: And that's the thing, right because he spends like Cam Newton, 477 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 6: such a dufis. He spends a minute in that answer 478 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 6: being like everybody knows to come to the SEC and 479 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 6: that's where you get on TV. Yeah, but the dominance 480 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 6: is over because everybody is leaving because you can pay 481 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 6: athletes well, no bleef Sherlock. Then obviously your whole point 482 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 6: of sec SEC. 483 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: Shut its point down a last ten seconds, he shut 484 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: his own point down. Hey, Jackson, jear that that's On 485 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: College Game Day yesterday, before Indiana's win in the Rose Bowl, 486 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: Kirk Herbstreet talked about the mistique that the bowl game 487 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: still has. Do we think the College Football Playoff is 488 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 2: only building the mystique of the Rose Bull? 489 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 8: Like? 490 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: What do you think about this chapter of the Rose 491 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: I think. 492 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 9: For those of us that are willing to adjust with 493 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 9: the times, it is. But I think there are still 494 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 9: a lot of people. I bumped into so many Indiana people. 495 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 4: You live in Indiana. 496 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 9: I talked to a woman who's eighty years old and 497 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 9: a gentleman who was in his early eighties. They're crying 498 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 9: talking about being here at the Rose Bull. It's not 499 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 9: about the CFP, It's about being in this stadium. They 500 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 9: never thought they'd live long enough to bring to have 501 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 9: their team play in this stadium, in this venue. 502 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: Did it feel like the Rose Bowl to you? In 503 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: that game yesterday? 504 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 6: It did? Okay, there's something about that. I get it. 505 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 6: There was cloudy, it was rainy rising in the Classic. 506 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 6: But there's just something about that stadium, and even when 507 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 6: the Huskies played there, there's there's a mistique to that building. 508 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 6: Whenever a big soccer game is there, there's something about 509 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 6: that building that just brings out I don't know, history 510 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 6: and something else. 511 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: And I wanted to continue, but I want bigger games 512 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 2: to be there. 513 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: I mean than the quarterfinal. 514 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: The rose buls should be reserved for at the very 515 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: least a national semifinal, if not the national champion. 516 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 6: I mean, listen, I think when we talk about the 517 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 6: CFP and the setups and the perfect models, another degree 518 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 6: of that is where the bowl games go? Right, yep, 519 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 6: you know where does the rose bul where's the cot? 520 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 6: Where do those games go? And I agree with you. 521 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 6: I think you have to reserve the elite of the 522 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 6: elite bowl games, of those six to go in the quarterfinals, 523 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 6: in semi final spots. And the reality is of those six, 524 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 6: the nowhere else has the mystique. 525 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: The Rose bowls rosels number one of one. 526 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: I mean, like SEC fans will disagree, they'd say sugar, 527 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: but Rose is one of one. 528 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 6: So I was wondering, like, what's number two? Is it 529 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 6: the sugar? 530 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: It's a sugar bowl, Okay, So then there's the number 531 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: three is that probably didn't Orange Bowl. 532 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 6: Then it's so simple. You have one semifinal on the 533 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 6: East coast, you have one semi final on the West coast. 534 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 6: It's that simple. 535 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 2: Well, or you have you have a semi final in 536 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: the Fiesta Bowl and a semi final in the Sugar 537 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: or the Orange Bals, and every national championship in the in. 538 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 6: The I'll hear you, but every semifinal needs to be 539 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 6: Rose every year because it's it's no else has the 540 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 6: mystique of the Rose Bowl. 541 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's right, it needs it needs to be bigger. 542 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 4: I felt I was. 543 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 2: It didn't quite feel Rose bull ish yesterday in that game. 544 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 2: It just kind of felt like another college football playoff game. 545 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: So hopefully that changed. 546 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 6: I think that's you think if the weather was better 547 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 6: you would have felt it. 548 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 2: Maybe so maybe so, Hey Jackson, do you hear that? 549 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 2: Oh boy, our old friend will Wade. After North Carolina 550 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 2: State's win over Wake Forest, head coach Will Wade, he 551 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 2: of the just massive cheating. 552 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: Scandals year after year after year after year. 553 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 2: Popped off on a reporter who dared to be critical 554 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 2: of the team's star forward, Darien Williams. 555 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 6: What's your concern level where Darien's game is absolutely zero? 556 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 8: You know, I'm tired of hearing about frickin' Darien playing well. 557 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 8: All right, it's a terrible question. It's a terrible question. 558 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 8: Let me, let me, let me be let me be 559 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 8: frank with you. He affects winning, and everybody's out here 560 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 8: about him and all this stuff. 561 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: He affects winning. 562 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 8: He was plus thirteen against Ole Miss and didn't hit 563 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 8: a sh and everybody's acting like the world's caving in. 564 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 8: The guy's a damn good player. He didn't shoot it 565 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 8: well today. What did he have? 566 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 6: Who had zero turnovers for us today? 567 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 4: Darian Williams. 568 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 8: So everybody needs to shut the hell up about him. 569 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 8: He's a damn good player and the SHOT's gonna fall. 570 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 8: I'm tired of answering questions about him. He's really good. 571 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 8: We're thankful to have him. 572 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: What does he really feel, oh Man, will Wade, We'll 573 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 2: just just go google will Wade and sift through the 574 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 2: garbage that he that he has gone through with NCUBA violations. 575 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 6: I think that Darian Williams may be a name that'll 576 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 6: obviously college basketball these days, a lot of those big 577 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 6: transfer names are lost on people. Darian Williams is the 578 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 6: player who led Texas Tech all the way deep for 579 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 6: the last couple of years, those big shots in NCAA 580 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 6: tournament games late, he transfers to ends he state to 581 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 6: play for will Wade, and yet he's having a bad year. 582 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 6: I went and looked at some of his stats. He's 583 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 6: having a rough year shooting. So a reporter asking, you know, 584 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 6: he's continuing to struggle, and then for Wade to say 585 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 6: it's a stupid double whatever, terrible question. He said, wait, 586 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 6: look at these look at the numbers. 587 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he's he struggling. I want to know why.