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Speaker 1: Notre Dame didn't make the the I just kind of

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Speaker 1: just said that randomly, and Notre Dame got screwed, which

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Speaker 1: And that's because the Ravens are worse than the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: because Lamar is worse than Rogers, and because it's not

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Speaker 1: about excellence, it's about surviving. The Steelers defense allowed four

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Speaker 1: The Steelers got Nott gained by one hundred and two yards.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers hit the ball for only twenty six minutes.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers needed not one, not two, but three kind

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Speaker 1: of three game deciding calls to all go their way,

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Speaker 1: and had to hang on by their fingernails to win

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Speaker 1: at the very end. That's okay, it's better than the alternative,

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Speaker 1: but I still don't think the Steelers are very good.

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Speaker 1: But the narrative got restoked by that win, Oh yes

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Speaker 1: That's all the stooge is. After the big win, Schefter

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Speaker 1: reported that the Steelers have to pick up the option

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Speaker 1: He will coach the Steelers as long as he chooses to,

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Speaker 2: What happens, they could lose outs.

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Speaker 1: They are picking up that option for twenty seven, and

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Speaker 1: to be seen as part of the mix now, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: But they're not that good, But neither is the whole

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Speaker 1: AFC So for calls on the fifteenth which are so fit?

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Speaker 1: Which uh down now eight three three four one two WSDX,

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Speaker 1: Tell me where the Steelers are at in your mind,

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Speaker 1: maybe your fantasy world after having won yesterday? What teams

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Speaker 1: In what teams would they not? And are you real

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Speaker 2: Because I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna come down to them having to

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Speaker 1: what you're thinking. Baltimore has a real rough schedule between

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Speaker 1: like the Cleveland Browns and this coming week the Miami Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: and all that's true, but I bet they lose one

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Speaker 1: somewhere the Steelers are at Now, your thoughts Notre Dame. Hilariously,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say they got screwed. And like I,

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Speaker 1: he keeps saying the bottom couple teams, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: who they are no chance to win anyway. Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: I did like about the win. There's what I didn't

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Speaker 2: But here's what I liked about the win.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, Rogers played with a sense of timing and guts.

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Speaker 1: expected Rogers's numbers to be in every game this year,

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Speaker 1: but he so rarely has reached He's only played about

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Speaker 1: defensive pressure on Lamar. They got tangible numbers two sacks

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Speaker 1: The Steelers had a lot of guys hurt going into

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Speaker 1: So many guys got hurt, and Tom said earlier in

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Speaker 1: the Steelers didn't get the next play in quick enough,

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Speaker 1: gave Baltimore time to throw the red flag. Rogers was

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Speaker 2: I got to write that Sensation Nation stuff down.

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Speaker 1: I got a little bit of talk in about this

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Speaker 1: the goalieacht and lost in the shootout. You can't lose

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Speaker 1: every single effing shootout, but the Penguins might.

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Speaker 1: you got to start using different people to shoot. Jari

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Speaker 1: If you excelled in practice in the shootout, you got

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Speaker 2: Here. Doer scored and Novak scored.

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Speaker 1: The pengu was not played five in a row at home,

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Speaker 1: starting tomorrow night with Anaheim coming to town. No John Gibbson.

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Speaker 1: Ducks are in. My favorite player that's a non Penguin

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Speaker 1: for the Flyers. Now he has sixteen goals for the Ducks.

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Speaker 1: figure out a way to win. Anyway, here's one thing

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Speaker 1: discouraging about the Penguins.

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Speaker 2: And like I said earlier, the report that.

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Speaker 1: Edmonton turned down a deal for Jarry because they won't

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Speaker 1: one point. All right, we got Matt Williamson, our guru.

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Speaker 1: At the bottom of the hour. Get your calls in

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Speaker 1: next for calls on the fifteens A three three four

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Speaker 1: one two WXDX, Mark.

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Speaker 2: I think that says a lot about my integrity.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I think it's great.

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Speaker 2: Pung baby the X at one five nine. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: It's the audience participant page.

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Speaker 2: Now I've stuttered over it.

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Speaker 1: My faculties are going and I bet you don't notice

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Speaker 2: With double M. Good day, Double m I said, good day, Hey, Mark.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to talk about the swagger that Rogers had yesterday.

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Speaker 5: I just thought he brought the swag that was near.

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Speaker 1: he had swag good, told them to shut up, been

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Speaker 5: He contently elevates.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just he needed to hear what I said. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's he consistently elevate? Go ahead, because I bet you

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Speaker 1: Nobody gives a frig about you and your jackass hill

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Speaker 6: Elevated and listens you can learn how wrong you are.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Mark, I want to go back to Jebediah and

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Speaker 7: Good, what's trending on the Iheartsports Network present in Vice

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Speaker 7: super Sure. It's Week fourteen of the NFL season, set

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Speaker 7: to wrap up with the Eagles taking on the Chargers

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Speaker 2: That one's in LA.

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Speaker 7: Steelers took some heat off coach Mike Tomlin with Sunday's

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Speaker 7: DK Metcalf return to Pittsburgh today. Ebry stayed in Baltimore

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Speaker 2: I'm Scott Davidson. Do you own a small business? You

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Speaker 2: need to hear this.

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Speaker 6: A seismic shift is coming.

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Speaker 2: It's time to get super sure. Not kind of sure,

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Speaker 2: not pretty sure? Yes, Mark Madden day, how you doing.

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Speaker 2: We're all gonna walk to the rules I make. Are

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Speaker 1: That d exit one five nine Steelers with a very necessary,

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Speaker 1: Scott It's our football guru, Matt Williamson. Matt, let's just

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Speaker 3: I think the Steelers quarterback played extremely well, and we

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Speaker 3: it was game two with this, and he had a

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Speaker 3: better feel for what he could do. I'm sure it

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Speaker 3: hurt less, you know. I mean, it's easy for us

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Speaker 3: to say, you know, I'm sure it hurts like crazy,

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Speaker 3: but it probably wasn't as tender. You saw him under

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Speaker 3: center a little bit more, which I thought was really

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Speaker 3: telling you know again he would hold football longer, certainly,

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Speaker 3: more comfortable, more confident. So it's a really good step

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Speaker 3: in the in the right direction. I'm not saying they're

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Speaker 3: gonna win the Super Bowl or you know, win out

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Speaker 3: or anything like that. But see, I was really starting

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Speaker 3: to worry about Rogers considering his age that oh no,

447
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Speaker 3: you know, this could be hitting the wall. And seeing

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Speaker 3: him play as well as he did really, as Shane

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Speaker 3: my tune.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about Williamson brought to us by shop dot

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Speaker 1: Steelers dot Com Matt up. On the negative side, the

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Speaker 1: Steelers can't run the ball at all, can they?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Well, they do. They really don't even try, and

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Speaker 3: I mean they I thought going into this game it

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Speaker 3: would be a very run centric game plan and it wasn't,

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Speaker 3: I mean, and they weren't very good at it. They

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Speaker 3: don't stick with it. I'm not even one hundred percent

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Speaker 3: sold that they're not an okay running team, but the

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Speaker 3: inability to just stick with it over and over is

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Speaker 3: really troubling, especially because the defense can't stop the run.

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Speaker 3: The last two weeks and some of you and I

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Speaker 3: talk about every Monday, the defense now at this point,

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Speaker 3: Mark has played one hundred and seventy nine more snaps

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Speaker 3: than the offense. I mean, if you let that sync in,

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Speaker 3: that is almost exactly three full games that you've asked

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Speaker 3: the defense to play more than the offense. And as

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Speaker 3: terrible as the Raiders are, they have the second biggest

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Speaker 3: differential and it's like one hundred plays left. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is off the charts in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 3: having your defense out on the field way too much.

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Speaker 3: And once again in the second half, Baltimore started moving

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Speaker 3: the ball with ease and easy completions, and the pass

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Speaker 3: rush slows down and the run defense is a little

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Speaker 3: softer because they're out there too much. And the only

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Speaker 3: way to remedy that is run the ball more and

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Speaker 3: stop the run more, and they're doing the opposite.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with all that.

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Speaker 1: I think in the second quarter, even a lot of

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Speaker 1: games lately, they start to look tired on defense. By

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Speaker 1: the third quarter, they start to look desperate, and I

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Speaker 1: think Baltimore sensed that and took advantage of it.

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Speaker 2: I was surprised Baltimore didn't run the.

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Speaker 1: Ball with more success in the first half, and for

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Speaker 1: that matter, run the ball more often.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a thousand percent. And it's just such a tough

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Speaker 3: way to live because you keep up this pace, you're

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Speaker 3: going to end up with more defensive injuries and they're

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Speaker 3: already sustaining a few, and then it gets worse and

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Speaker 3: then you're not able to go up the field even more.

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Speaker 3: I mean, these kind of issues snowball like crazy, and

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Speaker 3: I don't know how it's going to get better. And frankly,

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Speaker 3: if Lamar was one hundred percent, or maybe if a

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Speaker 3: call would have went the Ravens way, there'd been a

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Speaker 3: much different result.

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Speaker 1: Uh, some of the Steelers' backups on defense came through

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Speaker 1: in the face of all the injuries, didn't they.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm really warming up to Pierre as being a

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Speaker 3: legit starting corner And unfortunately he's a free agent after

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Speaker 3: the year and he's making himself a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: But he's won for sure. I thought we'd see a

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Speaker 3: fair amount of as Sante Samuel. I think he played

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Speaker 3: one or two snaps. Didn't even notice he got in

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Speaker 3: because Eccles and Pierre had played so well. Where they're

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Speaker 3: not getting the help though, from depth wise is the

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Speaker 3: D line.

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Speaker 2: You know that.

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Speaker 3: I thought Black had a tough.

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Speaker 2: Game, Beck was able to go back in.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't think of him as irreplaceable, but

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Speaker 1: he's pretty close with Harmon's.

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Speaker 3: Out, yes, And I mean this is a small sample size,

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Speaker 3: but the games that Harmon has missed, they've allowed like

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Speaker 3: one hundred rushing yards more per game than the games

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Speaker 3: he's in there. And he's a good player, but he

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Speaker 3: shouldn't be that impactful. And frankly, the D line not

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Speaker 3: named Cam Hayward has just been going backwards too much

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Speaker 3: in the run game the last two weeks.

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Speaker 1: And here's something scary too, Matt. I thought Chuck Clark

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Speaker 1: and Jabriel Peppers played okay. Carson Brunner got on the

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Speaker 1: field and actually made some plays, and don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 1: we're power of them, but that's something I don't want

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Speaker 1: to count.

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Speaker 3: On, right, I mean, that's not a world you want

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Speaker 3: to live in. And just go to throw this out there.

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Speaker 3: Though you mentioned Carson Bruner. He made a lot of

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Speaker 3: plays on special teams too, by the way, so I

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Speaker 3: guess wanted to give him a quick little shout out. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think he's a terrible talent. I just

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Speaker 1: I think the more he plays, the best.

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Speaker 3: No, I think he's going to be man A Kavich.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think he'll be a Steeler for ten

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Speaker 3: years and be their next killerber.

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Speaker 1: How firm is the Steelers control of the AFC Dwarf.

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Speaker 1: I know they're in first place, but all their reaction

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Speaker 1: I've heard today, a lot of people are assuming a

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Speaker 1: lot of things.

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred percent agree.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: I know that their schedule sets up to be easier

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Speaker 3: than the Ravens, and they may even be a better

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Speaker 3: team than the Ravens, but winning against Miami right now

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Speaker 3: is no guarantee. Miami is running all over teams right now.

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Speaker 3: They're playing really, really well, and like.

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Speaker 2: You said, literally running.

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Speaker 1: They're running the ball, which makes them automatically a bad

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Speaker 1: matchup for that Steelers defense.

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Speaker 3: One thousand percent. And I know a Chan will be

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Speaker 3: on the injury report, but I bet he plays. They

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Speaker 3: were blowing out the Jets or he probably would have

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Speaker 3: went back in that game, and he's having a tremendous year.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you also look at like that Browns game,

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Speaker 3: but if it's a blizzard and you know it's a

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Speaker 3: first one to nine points or whatever, that's not a

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Speaker 3: definite win to be either. They probably lose against the Lions.

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't shock me one bit if this division comes

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Speaker 3: down the Week eight team.

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Speaker 1: If the Steelers would win the AFC North and get

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Speaker 1: a home playoff game, what team would they be most

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Speaker 1: likely to beat out of the potential matchups and what

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Speaker 1: team could they just not beat?

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Speaker 3: So I'm probably out on a limb on this one,

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Speaker 3: but I think, well, first of all, I think the

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Speaker 3: Colts won't win another game. You know, they lost their quarterback.

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Speaker 3: They have an awful, awful schedule, So as good as

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Speaker 3: the Colts started, I think they're going to be out

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Speaker 3: of contention here very soon, which is unfortunate. If you're them.

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Speaker 3: It's not really their fault, but they're in a real problem.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm crazy, but I think the Chargers are set

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Speaker 3: to kind of fall off a little bit too. Maybe

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Speaker 3: I'll look dumb, but I think they're going to get

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Speaker 3: beat bad tonight, so I think they could go backwards.

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Speaker 3: Now we're That leaves me though, is if I'm right

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Speaker 3: on those I still think Kansas City could win out,

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Speaker 3: and I know that on many tie breakers in their favor.

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Speaker 3: But if I'm right about that, they would be the

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Speaker 3: seven seed, which comes to then uh, well, then you'd

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Speaker 3: end up, you know, having mahomes allen all these scary

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Speaker 3: teams in the playoffs. I wouldn't want to play the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs and they would.

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Speaker 2: They would all be in the bottom of the draw.

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Speaker 2: They'd all be on the road in the wild card too.

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Speaker 3: That's what I mean. They all could come visit you.

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Speaker 3: But when you ask me that, I think the short

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Speaker 3: answer is the Bills will be the five seed. The

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Speaker 3: Steelers will be the four seed. That's not great, Matt.

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Speaker 1: What did you think of the three calls that decided

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Speaker 1: the game? The touchdown to likely the the the uh

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Speaker 1: recovered fumble pass whatever it was by Rogers, and then

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Speaker 1: the the personal file against the long snappercoots.

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Speaker 3: So if you break them all down super quick, I

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Speaker 3: never would have thrown I never would have thrown a

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Speaker 3: flag on the Coons one, you know, especially maybe by

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Speaker 3: the letter of the law. You touched the long snapper,

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Speaker 3: but this is football, and he's two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: pounds of pads on and the helmets, and it wasn't egregious.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was a bad flag that greatly benefit

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Speaker 3: the Steelers, And I'd be pretty fired up of either

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Speaker 3: if I was the Ravens. Frankly, I'd probably be pretty

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Speaker 3: fired up about them all if I was a Ravens fan. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: they they.

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Speaker 1: Could have gone either way without outrage, is what I said.

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Speaker 3: I thought so too, And the fact that both were

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Speaker 3: originally called the Ravens way and then they saw enough

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Speaker 3: to overturn it shocked me. On the Likely and Rodgers plays,

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Speaker 3: But frankly, when you study them and you break them

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Speaker 3: down frame by frame, I think they're the right call,

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Speaker 3: especially the Rogers one, because there's pretty clear evidence that

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Speaker 3: he has the ball in his hands with the knee

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Speaker 3: on the.

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Speaker 1: Ground, right, But what he touched, what he tackled, because

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Speaker 1: at that point he's a receiver.

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Speaker 3: Tht so right I thought he was. But the Likely

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Speaker 3: one I think I'd have more of a problem with.

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Speaker 3: But if I'm trying to be as impartial as possible,

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Speaker 3: I think they got the Rogers and likely call rights.

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Speaker 3: I think they got the long snapper one wrong.

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Speaker 1: No, that's fair, and honestly I'm not outraged by any

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Speaker 1: of the three calls, nor would I have been at

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Speaker 1: they all yea, all all two.

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Speaker 2: Or or none or one gone the other way.

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Speaker 1: But they just all close calls, and that is what

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Speaker 1: decides the games. Matt, great stuff as always. We'll do

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Speaker 1: it again next week.

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Speaker 5: How about take care.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to him.

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