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Speaker 3: So our coverage starts at eight am on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a chance for you tomorrow to when

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Speaker 1: at six o'clock. Listen to the entirety of the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter as the Broncos spoiler alert beat the Giants. And

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be a lot of fun though to relive that.

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Speaker 1: What a quarter of football.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure, man, They're down nineteen points at the

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Speaker 1: So we got some people calling you out for being

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Speaker 1: fire away? All right, it's from Joe and Parker. Ben

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Speaker 1: in your mind, are the Broncos doing anything right? It's

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Speaker 3: Because all I hear is how bad they are.

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Speaker 1: It was almost more fun when they did suck, because

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Speaker 2: Okay, we why I didn't say they were bad. That's

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Speaker 2: not a thing that happened. I said that there are

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Speaker 2: things that they're doing that are not sustainable. I mean,

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Speaker 2: be bad at that point. That there are things that

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Speaker 2: I am harping on process. The fact that we're throwing

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Speaker 2: What are we doing throwing passes to the left tackle

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Speaker 2: when we just need to run it in with JK Dobbs.

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Speaker 2: Are we really that thirsty to pad bros touchdown numbers

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Speaker 1: This is this is part and parcel to what Joe's

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Speaker 1: talking about. Like everything you just said there all negatives,

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Speaker 2: I mean this is this is legitimate criticism of process.

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Speaker 3: Sure, but also padding Bonix's stats.

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Speaker 2: A rhetorical question. It's a rhetorical device to make a point,

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Speaker 2: which you know, but is there anything you know? Listen,

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Speaker 2: we're good at running the ball. Let's do it more.

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Speaker 3: You guys want to talk about this, I've done this,

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Speaker 2: Don't don't add any other extra like negative on the

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Speaker 3: I said, you guys want to do this, we can.

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Speaker 2: You're wrong.

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Speaker 3: It's fine.

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Speaker 2: I don't have a problem tell the audience are wrong too.

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Speaker 2: It's rare that I get to sit there and just

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Speaker 1: Ask you for things that the Broncos are doing well,

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Speaker 2: Run the ball? Oh do you want more? I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: Actually, then you said pretty well, But what you really

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Speaker 3: I always say this because I know you and I

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Speaker 2: When you set the standard that we're a super Bowl

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Speaker 2: If you guys would quit crying a line about me

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Speaker 3: What do you mean, you people?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean you people?

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to help you right now. Yeah, you're helping,

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Speaker 2: This is a great content for a bit at all.

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Speaker 3: We rush the pastor well, we get rid of it quickly.

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Speaker 2: We don't we don't give up on things. Uh, we

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's plenty of little things that that

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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about this, Yeah, of course

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Speaker 2: where my frustration comes from, because I'm like doritis. I'm

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Speaker 2: talking to Sean Paton, like everybody can see it every

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Speaker 1: Do you ever think on game day, when you're live

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Speaker 2: I had for three years. Yeah, this offense is kind

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Speaker 1: Ben However, these last few years, it sounds like a

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Speaker 3: Isn't personal. It doesn't matter who it was.

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Speaker 3: Bad off it. You guys don't remember that. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: It's there's frustration level here. I hold Sean Payton to

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Speaker 2: A rookie coach with no experience. Sean Payton's been around

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it's overstated. I mean, I think

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Speaker 5: But I think every week in this league, you want

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Speaker 1: We have somebody coming to your defense here, family member.

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Speaker 1: not good enough to really stand toe to toe with

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Speaker 1: a lot of NFL teams. But you're just looking for all, right,

440
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Speaker 1: I need some improvement here, improvement there. I know, I

441
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Speaker 1: know they're building on something, but now ostensibly they're beyond that. Right,

442
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Speaker 1: we've jumped over the You're still in a building program

443
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Speaker 1: that hopes they can do something.

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Speaker 3: No, no, you think you've arrived.

445
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Speaker 1: You're leading in the AFC West now, So now it's

446
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Speaker 1: about what can you do with the next step, which

447
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Speaker 1: is winning this division. And that's what Sean said last

448
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Speaker 1: offseason in his final press conference to the media, is

449
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Speaker 1: we plan on winning the AFC West next year. Okay, Well,

450
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna win the AFC West and you're going

451
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Speaker 1: to go toe to toe with the Chiefs and the Chargers,

452
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Speaker 1: for example, well these are things that are problematic.

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Speaker 3: So I get kind of where you're coming from.

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Speaker 2: But I can see where for some Broncos fans you

455
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Speaker 2: tend to lean in on the criticism a little heavier. Sometime.

456
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Speaker 3: I'm going to be harder.

457
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Speaker 2: On Sean Baden than I was on Date Hackett, and

458
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Speaker 2: I hold them to different standards. Hackett was a rookie

459
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Speaker 2: coach in a in a situation where we were rebuilding

460
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Speaker 2: and we did not actually think that team was going

461
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Speaker 2: to be a contender at any point. Sean Payton has

462
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Speaker 2: laid the ground where bease is your three of Sean Payton.

463
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Speaker 2: Sean Payton said that this is one of the Super

464
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Speaker 2: Bowl contending teams he's ever coached.

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Speaker 3: He set the standard at excellence.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna set the criticism at anything less than excellence.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And that's that's just the way I am.

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Speaker 2: If we don't you know, if you guys don't like that,

470
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Speaker 2: that's fine, But that's just that's who I am. You know,

471
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Speaker 2: you set the standard somewhere, I'm gonna try and meet it,

472
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Speaker 2: you know. And and that's so that's that's where I'm

473
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Speaker 2: gonna be the criticism set. We set the bar at

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Speaker 2: excellence because that's where Sean Payton set the bar.

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Speaker 3: That's me. Joey Vampire, Grant always bringing it back.

476
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Speaker 2: Joey Vampire. We cann't going to be in a concert,

477
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Speaker 2: by the way, just to get you.

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Speaker 3: I love them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they're good. Joy Vampire, Joey Vampire. We can George

480
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Speaker 1: Schultz brought a couple of wide receivers. I want to

481
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Speaker 1: talk to you about when we come back on the

482
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Speaker 1: other side, not see if the Broncos could be interested.

483
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Speaker 1: We'll get to that next. You are a little bit prickly.

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Speaker 1: I can't man, Yeah, a little bit.

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Speaker 2: What time is your rebroadcast of last Sunday's fourth quarter?

486
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Speaker 3: I'm so glad you asked. Is gonna be tomorrow night

487
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Speaker 3: at six o'clock.

488
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Speaker 2: We're gonna rebrid rebroadcast the fourth quarter of the Broncos

489
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Speaker 2: Giants game in its entirety. And then, as I understand it,

490
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Speaker 2: you guys are gonna have some commentary on BCT about it,

491
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Speaker 2: aren't you.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm told. Wait, you know what's coming on

493
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Speaker 3: your own show?

494
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we are. We're gonna have some commentary the guest. Uh.

495
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Speaker 2: I don't know if the mystery guest is tonight. I'm

496
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Speaker 2: not gonna be there, so I don't know. No, that's

497
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Speaker 2: not a real godmn Is Rick Lewis gonna be on

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Speaker 2: the show. Yes, probably for his annual with the Funk segment.

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Speaker 1: You may be nervous every time you say that. I'll

500
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Speaker 1: just gonna let you know every single time there's like

501
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Speaker 1: I gotta come down a heart on that end.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you read and actually, as I understand that, you're

503
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Speaker 2: going to kick off the top of the show recapping

504
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Speaker 2: the Chauncey Biller stuff. Yeah. No, we'll have commentary tomorrow

505
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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter myself and Nick. We'll be able to

506
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Speaker 2: do it. That's gonna be a lot of fun. It's

507
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Speaker 2: been a lot of fun with this. Plus we got

508
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Speaker 2: some Cowboys Broncos tickets to give away. So not only

509
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Speaker 2: will you be listening to the magic and listening to

510
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Speaker 2: the Magic, got a chance to wis some tickets.

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Speaker 3: Very cool.

512
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Speaker 1: Well, we'll have tickets on KAE Sports and Broncos Country

513
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Speaker 1: tonight coming up tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Very excited for that and excited for the game.

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Speaker 1: All right, So before we come go back into that,

516
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Speaker 1: and I do want to get some more thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the Nuggets since they're kicking off their season tonight. Our

518
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Speaker 1: friend Jordan Schultz is in a tweet today that the

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Speaker 1: wide receivers in New Orleans Crystal Lave and Rashid Rashid Shaheed. Now,

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Speaker 1: he said Chris o'lave was on the final year of

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Speaker 1: his contract. That is not actually correct.

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Speaker 2: He has two years left, including this year, but Christal

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Speaker 2: lave Rashid Shaheed could be on the market.

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Speaker 3: What are you hearing?

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Speaker 2: Shahed is getting a lot of calls and he may

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Speaker 2: be on the market. They have a contract, they're they're

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Speaker 2: negotiating with a lave. Now if they move him, they

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Speaker 2: move him. But they're negotiating with him right now to

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Speaker 2: try to get a deal done. So it doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: like a guy you want to move on from. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, honestly, I wouldn't move offrom me one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, honestly, New Orleans. I a little fight at

533
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Speaker 2: him this year. I'm not sure I'd be in a

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Speaker 2: fire sale right now unless you just think that some

535
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Speaker 2: of these guys aren't in your plans for the future.

536
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Speaker 2: But he can take the top off man, and I

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Speaker 2: you know, if I was in Orleans, I would move

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Speaker 2: on from me the one of them? Who is? I

539
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Speaker 2: guess you got to make room for Veal.

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Speaker 1: So obviously with his four catches for twenty nine yards

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Speaker 1: in a suchdown, So well, who is who is in

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Speaker 1: a firesale?

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Speaker 3: Do you think?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: I think Miami should be. I mean, you know, you

546
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Speaker 2: gotta see both the edge rushers gone Phillips and Chubb.

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Speaker 2: If the right number comes through for Waddle, he could

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Speaker 2: be gone. I know they said they weren't, but that's

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Speaker 2: that's garbage. I don't think there's anybody that's untouchable in

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Speaker 2: Miami right now. You're gonna blow the whole thing up.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're blowing it up at the end of

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Speaker 2: the year. That they should absolutely be in fire sale

553
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Speaker 2: mode unless you have just a key piece you think

554
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Speaker 2: you're building around, But who is that. You're not building

555
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Speaker 2: around Wattle?

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Speaker 1: Well, no you're not. And they look like they're primed

557
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Speaker 1: for a bit of a reset. I do wonder for Tua, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like what, you're gonna be a quarterback there

559
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Speaker 1: next year? Okay, so you think they're gonna go different

560
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Speaker 1: at quarterback and with Coke.

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to blow the whole thing. They

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Speaker 2: might even get a new general manager. We'll see Chris career.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if anybody survives, it'll be him. But I

564
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Speaker 2: like the vibes are bad, Yeah, the vibe, the vibe

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Speaker 2: from Miami. Get how many head coach has he been

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Speaker 2: allowed to hire? Now?

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Speaker 3: I know, no, I mean it's a fair point.

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Speaker 1: How does that roster look I mean that they just

569
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Speaker 1: gave to his extension one last year year before. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it would be sort of a tough pill to swallow, right,

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Speaker 1: And I mean you drafted Quinny errors, but I mean

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Speaker 1: that's not like I.

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Speaker 2: Mean it was what a six round pick or whatever.

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Speaker 3: It was something you had Zach Wilson there, But that's nothing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he won't be there either.

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Speaker 1: But you're playing bad enough, I guess. And that's always

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Speaker 1: the spot, right, You want to be bad enough that

578
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Speaker 1: you could be arranged to take a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: If you wanted to. Yeah, And it doesn't mean that

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Speaker 2: they're going to. That means that you can if you want, right,

581
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Speaker 2: and you need to, you know, I mean this year,

582
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Speaker 2: the best quarterback coming out this year is gonna be

583
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Speaker 2: Tye Simpson out of Alabama, So you gotta put yourself

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Speaker 2: in line for that. It's actually Chrystal Lobby is the

585
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Speaker 2: same type as Cortland Sutton. Wouldn't we want something different

586
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Speaker 2: like an after the catch guy? Yeah, I mean they're

587
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Speaker 2: both ex receivers like that. Yeah, I agree, that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Like i'd be a redundant to having a lave here

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Speaker 2: on top of that, I mean sewn Lys's redundancy, though

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Speaker 2: speaking broadly, I would say that, you know, maybe there's

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Speaker 2: interest striding. I don't think that the Bronc I mean,

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Speaker 2: if the Broncs rich and somebody would be shihed not

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Speaker 2: you know, not a lave and then noticed that caveat

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Speaker 2: that with if yeah, you know, I know I saw

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Speaker 2: some some interest about stuff out there earlier. I'm not

596
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Speaker 2: convinced that there is outside of potentially maybe adding a guard,

597
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Speaker 2: but we'll see.

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Speaker 1: You think a lot of this is going to come

599
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Speaker 1: down to, I mean, where it's gonna be on the

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Speaker 1: other side of week eighth. No, we I think it's

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Speaker 1: actually they moved the trade that they did move the

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Speaker 1: trades on the last after week nine now, so which

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Speaker 1: I actually like. I like later later the better because

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Speaker 1: you know, most of the time teams don't really know,

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Speaker 1: maybe don't know by week eight what they're going to be,

606
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Speaker 1: but maybe by week nine, when you're tipping to the

607
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Speaker 1: other side of the season, then you're like, all right,

608
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Speaker 1: well we are five games out of either a playoff

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Speaker 1: spot or the division, and then you kind of know

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Speaker 1: a little bit more. But if you win a couple

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Speaker 1: of games in a row, I mean we've seen things

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Speaker 1: shift quickly or some of these teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, neither. I mean the trade deadline is a

614
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Speaker 2: week from this coming Tuesday, that's right, So you know,

615
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Speaker 2: plenty of times still on all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: What you're seeing now are a lot of teams posturing

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Speaker 2: I don't need anybody, or we're not trading somebody. Oh

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Speaker 2: we've got we're listening to offers, we're not you know,

619
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Speaker 2: a lot of posturing on that kind of stuff. We'll see,

620
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Speaker 2: you know how it goes. But yeah, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: if you're the Broncos and you keep winning, I mean

622
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Speaker 2: maybe maybe you do start looking like, all right, we

623
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Speaker 2: want to make sure that we've were covered. We got

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Speaker 2: coverage you know, down the stretch for a tough stretch here.

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Speaker 2: If you're if you lose both those games, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think that they're certainly night

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Speaker 2: be sellers. I just don't think. I don't know if

628
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Speaker 2: there's anything out there that you're what would you buy

629
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Speaker 2: you know, I mean a left guard maybe, but beyond that, like,

630
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Speaker 2: what would you buy a speed receiver? Mean you already

631
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Speaker 2: don't use Marvin Mims enough, listen, I'm on the same page.

632
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Speaker 2: I was having this discussion with Rick yesterday as he

633
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Speaker 2: was in studio, and he is of the opinion that

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Speaker 2: they could use an injection there with the receivers, and

635
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Speaker 2: I argued, more, your side of it is like you're

636
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Speaker 2: barely utilizing the guys that you have on the roster,

637
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Speaker 2: and we still haven't even sort of cracked open Pat

638
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Speaker 2: Bryan's like, like that still is like an underutilized portion

639
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: of this office. Like honestly a Troy Franklin replacement. Okay,

640
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Speaker 2: but you know Marvin Minn, we'd already don't use Marvin

641
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Speaker 2: Mims enough. You know, Troy's he's moved up to I

642
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 2: guess average, but he's there's still too many drops, too many,

643
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Speaker 2: too many fumbles, you know, those kinds of things going

644
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: on with him. So you know, I mean, but the position,

645
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Speaker 2: the archetype for the position he plays was like, you know,

646
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Speaker 2: a guy like Josh Reynolds last year, I mean, who

647
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Speaker 2: fits that mold you go out there and trade for

648
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Speaker 2: this year?

649
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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And you you don't trade for those guys anyways, right right,

651
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Speaker 1: most of the times you can add guys like that,

652
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Speaker 1: What are you doing give it up assets for that?

653
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Speaker 3: No, I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I wanted to go through the exercise

655
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Speaker 1: of it based on what Jordan Schultz was saying. And

656
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Speaker 1: of course the relationship with the Saints got a lot

657
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Speaker 1: of Broncos fans in a bit of a tizzy today

658
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Speaker 1: when they're like, well, gosh, Christal Love here would be pretty.

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Speaker 2: Great, or rashi ja, do you want to see less

660
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Speaker 2: court and sudden because that's what that means.

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Speaker 3: So he says we need an Emmanuel Sanders.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean us in everyone. Yeah, manuals great

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Speaker 2: in the booth. By the way, that was a lot

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Speaker 2: of fun that.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, so he was in the third quarter, so we

666
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Speaker 1: won't get to hear Emmanuel Sanders in the booth. I

667
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Speaker 1: played I played the cut yesterday just for fun. Did

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Speaker 1: you hear Emmanuel Sanders call? Or he was on the

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Speaker 1: call for the Tyrone Tracy touchdown?

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Speaker 3: Oh I missed that. Oh it was epic.

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Speaker 7: Here we go, oh Tracy right off left yard and

672
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Speaker 7: we'll walk into the dand zone.

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Speaker 2: With Louise touch down too.

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Speaker 7: He's a thirty one yard run by Tyrone Tracy, his

675
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 7: first rushing touchdown of the year, and just like that,

676
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Speaker 7: with two forty one left in the third the Giants

677
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 7: are ahead nineteen to nothing, and then what happened.

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Speaker 3: No, that was pretty funny. The mano standers like before, they're.

679
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Speaker 1: Just sort of chatting and chatting, and then all of

680
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: a sudden you could just hear like, oh no, yeah

681
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Speaker 1: and yeah, Tyrone Tracy just burst up the middle.

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Speaker 2: And that was a very I will say that was

683
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Speaker 2: a very low point, not just for him, but for

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Speaker 2: a lot of Broncos alums. There were there was scroup

685
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Speaker 2: chats were popping at that point.

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Speaker 1: Well because at that point you thought they'd given up

687
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Speaker 1: a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I mean that the Broncos defense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if it's against Jonathan Taylor, Okay, right, I

690
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: mean Jhonthan Taylor's unbelievable, Say Won Barkley, unbelievable.

691
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Speaker 2: Tylon Tracy I think is good running back. I don't

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Speaker 2: think he's in that category.

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Speaker 3: So and so.

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Speaker 1: Allow him to go untouched for thirty one yards. Yeah,

695
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Speaker 1: at that point, late in the third quarter, it's feeling like,

696
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: all right, this one's done. And on Damarius Thomas Day

697
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Speaker 1: and Super Bowl fifty Day, that was the biggest part

698
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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 3: You're just you're you're confounded, it was.

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Speaker 2: Less about the Super Bowl fifty thing and the DT thing,

701
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: Like there was a lot of I hope they're not

702
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: going to do DT the way they did Mike on

703
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: My Shanahan day. You know, there was some there was

704
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: some pretty harsh feelings about that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that I was, I mean grateful for

706
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: the comeback and then the fact that they able to

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Speaker 1: win the game. I think that is obviously remarkable. But

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Speaker 1: I saw when they scored that first time down in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, which again you're gonna hear tomorrow night

710
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Speaker 1: after six o'clock, there was a lot of like, I

711
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: don't even care what points they put up in this quarter,

712
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: it's all garbage time. I am grateful after the fact

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00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: that we didn't have to have that discussion the week after.

714
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: Let's just say that they didn't come completely comeback and

715
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: it was all like style points there in the fourth quarter,

716
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Speaker 1: And there would have been a lot of people, like

717
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: maybe even you, that would have said, I don't even

718
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: care about any of those points because the game was

719
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Speaker 1: over by the third quarter.

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Speaker 3: That's all style points, garbage points.

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Speaker 1: That would have been a big discussion point among the

722
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: fan base and some media wouldn't have been well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 2: I think you always try to stack points in a

725
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: comeback attempt. But if it had fallen short, I mean

726
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: maybe maybe the narrative would have been a little bit different,

727
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: certainly the pad, especially with the you know, the touchdown

728
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: of the pad, the status once they got within I

729
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: don't know, twenty six sixteen maybe, But then once you

730
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: got it to within two scores, all of a sudden,

731
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Speaker 2: my eyes lit up. I'm like, they have a shot

732
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: at this. Yeah, And the energy had changed in the stadium.

733
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Speaker 2: Oh sure, you could hear it, you know, once they

734
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Speaker 2: got within Once you get it within two score, and

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Speaker 2: that's the thing. It's no longer garbage time when it's

736
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Speaker 2: two scores, that's right, because anything can happen on a play. Yeah,

737
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Speaker 2: so you know, that's that's really the thing. If it

738
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Speaker 2: had stayed like a three score garbage time thing and

739
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Speaker 2: you were then okay, then that's war died. But when

740
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Speaker 2: you get within two scores, anything can happen.

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Speaker 1: Big breaking news story today with the Chauncey Billips being

742
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Speaker 1: arrested by the FBI. That definitely got some pretty significant headlines,

743
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Speaker 1: and we talked about it quite a bit in the

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Speaker 1: first hour of our show. So if you missed any

745
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Speaker 1: of that, you can check it out on demand at

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Speaker 1: kwacolorout dot com or on the iHeartRadio app. We've got

747
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Speaker 1: a couple of things coming up here tonight.

748
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Speaker 2: We've got Thursday night football between the Chargers and the Vikings.

749
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Speaker 3: We'll do that pick here in just a second and

750
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Speaker 3: show me the money.

751
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Speaker 1: The Nuggets get underway tonight as well. That's such a

752
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: weird deal. By the way, on the side, know you

753
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Speaker 1: have this huge night for the NBA, right, I mean,

754
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: of course, the league kicked off on Tuesday, but then

755
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: last night was like the full Everybody for the most

756
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Speaker 1: part is playing, with the exception of a couple of teams,

757
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Speaker 1: including the Nuggets, and so everybody's playing last night, and

758
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: then you wake up in the morning and the NBA

759
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: is in the headlines for all the wrong reasons. You know,

760
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: last night Victor women and Yama unbelievable performance right, forty

761
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: point fifteen rebounds, three blocks versus also performance.

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Speaker 3: By the way, credit to you you picked the Spurs.

763
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Speaker 3: If you credit on that just like that, that would

764
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Speaker 3: be one of the headlines.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about the NBA from last night and instead

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Speaker 1: it's this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the NBA finally got the a block

768
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Speaker 2: in the middle of an NFL season.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: No, I look, yeah, that's that's the thing. I mean,

771
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Speaker 2: I think if you're an NBA fan, this is egg

772
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Speaker 2: on the face in some ways. But at the end

773
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Speaker 2: of the day, I mean, this just keeps the NBA

774
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: in the in the spotlight. All press is good press, right,

775
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: it keeps it in the spotlight. I think, again, to

776
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: recap earlier, I think wagering officionados are like, yeah, this

777
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: proves the system works.

778
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,479
Speaker 3: This is why we have legalized sports gambling.

779
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: The bad faith actors get caught now they didn't used

780
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Speaker 2: to get caught, So you know, I overall it sucks

781
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: that Chauncey is at the center of this, but overall,

782
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: I think the rest of these things are good. I

783
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: think we're getting the bad face the actors out of

784
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: the space. Yeah, it is unfortunate the Chauncey who's in

785
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: a local legend and and he's got a lot of

786
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: connections here in the community.

787
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Speaker 1: And still even though he's up there in Portland, he's

788
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: he's still got a lot of connections here.

789
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: And that's that was sort of the just bizarre nature

790
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: of this entire story for me because from a character standpoint,

791
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: he's sort of like you think you know people kind

792
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: of deal. That's what it feels like right now. But again,

793
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Speaker 2: I want to get all the information.

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00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll get more as the days go on, because

795
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: it feels like we're missing some pieces of this leave

796
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Speaker 1: right now.

797
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think, like I said, there's going to

798
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: be another wave of people that get caught up in this,

799
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: and you could see bigger names eventually overshadowing this. But

800
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: I think they're starting at the in concentric circles and

801
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: working their way outward.

802
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Speaker 3: He Yeah, what's coming up on BCT Grant.

803
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Speaker 4: We got Rick Lewis at six point thirty, Brimsdis at

804
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 4: seven oh five. We're gonna talk a little bit about

805
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame because Nick just thinks they have

806
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 4: a Broncos hatred. And of course we'll have Benjamin Albright

807
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 4: for the first couple of minutes to give us a

808
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 4: breakdown on the Chauncey Billups story.

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Speaker 3: Wow, it sounds like you.

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Speaker 1: Guys prepare for the show and then you actually know

811
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Speaker 1: what's coming up. That's pretty cool. No mystery guests tonight,

812
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Speaker 1: that's amazing, what a rip off. It's it's weird.

813
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: I think I think most people the surprise of what

814
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: the three hours is gonna be, saying they love to

815
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Speaker 2: not know what's coming up. What am I gonna hear next?

816
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Speaker 3: Great job that avin all right, pct next