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Speaker 1: Six five one carpets plus studios.

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Speaker 2: It's nord to win for PA.

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Speaker 1: Although the host will be joining us from Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: around ten am this morning as the Minnesota Vikings at

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Speaker 1: so Far against the Chargers Thursday Night football. Tons of

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Speaker 1: coverage on the Purple throughout the show today, I will

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Speaker 1: eventually get to the timber Tech set list, but also

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Speaker 1: on the line Floyda Rosedale Saturday afternoon at Kinnick in

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Speaker 1: Iowa City. The five and two Gophers pj's team, fresh

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Speaker 1: off that hot win over mister Rayola and the Huskers

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Speaker 1: are in Iowa to take on well the last time

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Speaker 1: they were there, Well there was a victory.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're one and oh in our last they're

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Speaker 3: still selling T shirts down there over that game.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely at twelve ten, it's commemorated, There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: But Floyda the Pigs on the line in Iowa City

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Speaker 1: this Saturday.

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Speaker 2: So I'm kicking off nine to doon.

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Speaker 1: Giving that Mike grim voice of Gophers hoops, voice of

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Speaker 1: Gophers football, the ability to have him in studio.

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Speaker 2: I always appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: At Mike Grimm and the number three via X to

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Speaker 1: follow him and he joins me, Now, how are you, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 2: I like the Vikings to win tonight. Just my two

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Speaker 2: cents worth getting on that.

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Speaker 3: I know people want to hear about the Vikings and

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Speaker 3: we'll talk Gophers, but I just think it's setting up

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Speaker 3: for a Vikings win.

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's all I got, simply enough. Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 2: if they follow, if they follow their.

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Speaker 1: Routes, thus far, it has been w l w L

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Speaker 1: speaking the obvious here, a five hundred team, a team

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Speaker 1: that we've talked about throughout the week that maybe lacks

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Speaker 1: identity right now, potentially could find an identity tonight. It's

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Speaker 1: so FI against Justin Herbert's Chargers. And yeah, I don't

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Speaker 2: I was. I was one of those. Look, I don't

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Speaker 3: You know, my opinions don't mean anything, and oftentimes they

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Speaker 3: differ from others. I actually left the game more encouraged

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Speaker 3: last week than most because they moved the ball pretty well.

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Speaker 3: And I think that the red zone issues with the

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Speaker 3: talent that they have. That's not a weekly thing. When's

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Speaker 3: the last time they've really done that where they've gone

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Speaker 3: one for five and frankly they scored twice and one

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Speaker 3: was a bogus hold and one was I thought a

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Speaker 3: Hawkinson on Hawkinson's thing, and I think, if you're going

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Speaker 3: to overturn that, it's got to be more obvious, like

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Speaker 3: if I think there's how often do you see where

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Speaker 3: it's like, well, if that had been called incomplete, they

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Speaker 3: wouldn't have called it a touchdown either. That to me

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Speaker 3: falls in that category one of those. I mean, if

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Speaker 3: I had to bet the safety of my family, I

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Speaker 3: think probably technically by the rule it was incomplete, but

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Speaker 3: I don't think it was enough, and certainly not in

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Speaker 3: comparison to the one earlier that KOC had Manta Smith

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Speaker 3: that obviously hit the ground anyway, and it wasn't because

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Speaker 3: the refs all that stuff, But that they lost. There

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Speaker 3: were other reasons, but those the fact they move the

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Speaker 3: ball up and down the field. They should have won

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Speaker 3: the game. They probably should have won the game. So

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Speaker 3: I come away with it it sucks that they didn't.

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Speaker 3: And maybe I'm not as tight in emotionally as many

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Speaker 3: vikings fans are I want him to win? Of course

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Speaker 3: you're probably healthier for it, maybe, but so I maybe

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Speaker 3: have a different view of it. I thought, man, they

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Speaker 3: world champs, and this red zone issue thing. Look, if

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Speaker 3: it happens again tonight, then you might have an issue.

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Speaker 3: But they technically, I thought, you know, you know, and

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Speaker 3: justin Jefferson, you know, he still thinks he dropped that.

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Speaker 3: That was a pretty good defensive play by a former

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Speaker 3: Hawkeye on that play. But if those three things happen,

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Speaker 2: It's a pick six.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, I don't think they're as bad as everyone

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Speaker 3: Let me let me ask you that, go Vikings. I

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Speaker 3: can't wait seven twenty. I'll be there with Ron doing

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Speaker 2: Midnight through midnight.

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Speaker 3: I mean, are you gonna be like going to bed

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Speaker 1: Fan line will end around somewhere between midnight and twelve thirty.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: Oll get home and I'll be hopefully amped up because

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Speaker 1: the team won.

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Speaker 2: And yes I won't I won't go to bed to around.

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Speaker 3: It takes a little bit, I've found it takes a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like last Friday after that game with the Gophers,

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Speaker 3: And then yeah, I just kind of sat on the

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Speaker 2: Well, it takes a minute.

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Speaker 1: I am emotionally invested, yeah in this team, Yeah, in

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Speaker 2: It's all good. Well, Naps are so underrated.

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Speaker 1: They are underrated, absolutely hopefully overrated. Are the five and

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Speaker 1: They nit Penn State at the wire, Penn State's in

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Speaker 2: It's a great.

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Speaker 3: Question because you know, the schedule hasn't been particularly tough,

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Speaker 3: The five wins. None of those five teams in whatever

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Speaker 3: or like they combined h to eighteen. Now, what does

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Speaker 3: should try to factor in Minnesota because they have purduing

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Speaker 2: Well, and they are over in the league.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: They did beat Nebraska, who has a couple of wins,

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Speaker 3: can't think that, No, I haven't. I've been tracking the

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Speaker 3: they were the Demons Demons they I'd be shocked if

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Speaker 3: this Iowa defense doesn't look as good as that typical

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Speaker 3: stingy since they They did really shut down that Indiana

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Speaker 3: team Perdue. I'm sorry Penn State needed a blocked field

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Speaker 2: I was a weird play.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's a pretty salty defense.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I think they, as they usually do, they're going to

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Speaker 3: For a long time, that group had been a drop

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Speaker 3: back passing type team. They still are. Gronowski Mark Gronowski,

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Speaker 3: a little different. The Gophers are going to have to

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Speaker 3: Purdue quarterback Ryan Brown was pretty sneaky, athletic, big kid,

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Speaker 3: this kid, Gronowski moves a little better. And then he

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Speaker 3: kind of made an interesting comment. Knowing that Nebraska is

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Speaker 2: And how worried are you?

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Speaker 3: And he said, and I'm paraphrasing, well, the Nebraska quarterback

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Speaker 3: absolutely next your next month, but right here, right now.

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Speaker 2: So I was a little different. And then Minnesota's a

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Speaker 3: They've got a quarterback that they really like they've been

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Speaker 1: Well, they got this because Caleb Johnson obviously went to

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Speaker 1: Paris might have some ball hawking opportunities, I hope, so

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Speaker 3: For an underdog Gophers team into this game, I think

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Speaker 3: I like to support the band. So it was at Northwestern,

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Speaker 3: and this isn't a knock on Northwestern fans, although they aren't,

438
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 3: you know, the biggest drawing fan base in the Big Tennel.

439
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 3: That's a place where a lot of times the visiting

440
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,680
Speaker 3: fans will go in and gobble up tickets because it's

441
00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:49,880
Speaker 3: centrally located, so Ohio State, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin fans can

442
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 3: go watch their team in Chicago's a melting pot. There's

443
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:57,440
Speaker 3: a bunch of grads from Minnesota or Ohio State, or Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan,

444
00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,720
Speaker 3: Michigan State that live in Chicago, that that's their chance

445
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 3: on the purple line, and out they go and they're

446
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,919
Speaker 3: they're at the game anyway. I so I really did

447
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 3: not The intention was not to show how few people.

448
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 3: It really wasn't how few people were in the stands.

449
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,920
Speaker 3: So I send a picture out of the band. I'm like, halftime,

450
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,160
Speaker 3: you know, halftime, And back then I was doing that.

451
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 3: I always send out a picture of the band. Started

452
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,399
Speaker 3: to go for home games. But back then I was

453
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,119
Speaker 3: sending out each everywhere half to hey, halftime entertainment, and

454
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,680
Speaker 3: there was there's nobody in the stands, like literally literally,

455
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 3: i'll show you the picture after you can blow it

456
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 3: up and you can count. There's like seventeen people, a

457
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,440
Speaker 3: couple of them wearing the orange you know, the orange

458
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 3: deer hunting coats because it's so cold and rainy. And

459
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 3: and then I had a couple of people like that

460
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 3: had to be like the band practice this morning at

461
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Speaker 3: six am. There's zero chance that's live. So they're accusing

462
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 3: me of like trying to stir the pot. So I

463
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 3: take a picture of the third quarter kickoff about three

464
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,199
Speaker 3: minutes later. Yeah, and you can see the teams out

465
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 3: there lining up for the kickoff and tweet that out.

466
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 3: I said, here take and somehow one of the Nebraska

467
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 3: reporters got onto that, and then all these Nebraska fans

468
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 3: pipe in about terrible fans, we're the best, all this stuff. Anyway,

469
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 3: I digress. That's that's the game. Thirty nine nothing, my god,

470
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 3: And yeah it was.

471
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Speaker 2: That was a bad game.

472
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 3: But anyway, Purdue takes it nineteen nothing on the chin.

473
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 3: And my point is it's a week to week proposition

474
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 3: in college sports. If you to watch Minnesota's running attack

475
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 3: against Purdue, and Purdue hadn't been statistically very good against

476
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 3: the run, you would have said there's no way that

477
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 3: they're going to do what they did against Nebraska last Friday.

478
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 2: But yet they did. And so that's why when you

479
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 2: when you're asked, what do you think is going to

480
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 2: happen this weekend? I don't know. I don't know. I

481
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 2: don't know. I would I would guess that PJ.

482
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 3: Fleck and Greg Harbo offensively are going to try to

483
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 3: establish the run. Given the success they had Friday, maybe

484
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 3: they've stumbled onto something. I also think Drake Lindsay worked

485
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 3: really hard getting them into the right run play. I

486
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 3: think for a young quarterback, maybe there's been a couple

487
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 3: of not miscommunications, but checking.

488
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 2: The wrong short thing or you know.

489
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 3: And I don't know how complicated it gets, and I

490
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 3: know they're putting a lot on his plate, and maybe

491
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 3: there was some misreads on what where to send the run,

492
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 3: where to send the play right left, and I don't know,

493
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 3: one hole, two hole, whatever, short hole, however it goes.

494
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 3: So I think that that was probably a little better

495
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 3: this week. And I do think another week of recovery

496
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 3: for Taylor. He had the pop in his step and

497
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 3: when he's one hundred percent man, he's really good. So

498
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 3: I think they're going to knock on the door on

499
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,479
Speaker 3: that and see can we establish some run and if

500
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 3: they can, they're going to go with that. If they can't,

501
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 3: they have fairly quickly the so far this season abandoned

502
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 3: the run. They did it against Rutgers, they did it

503
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 3: against Purdue, and they just said, all right, we're gonna

504
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 3: we're gonna get into this quick passing game. And sometimes

505
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 3: it is a four yard pass, but it serves as

506
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 3: a hand off. It serves to move the sticks and

507
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 3: so they've got that certainly that bullet in the hole

508
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 3: shirt if they have to try that. But I would

509
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 3: guess they're gonna, you know, kick the tires on the

510
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 3: run game to start and see where it takes them.

511
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,479
Speaker 1: So, you know, we've talked a lot about nil and

512
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: just kind of state of the Big Ten, just kind

513
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: of some global views of the of the conference and

514
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: you know, eliminating the divisions, never going to get the

515
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: chance to win the West again, and where everyone's staring

516
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: up at at Ohio State, Oregon and Michigan. So one

517
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: way that you keep people engaged is you win.

518
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: Your rivalry games.

519
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think since PJ started seven and one,

520
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: I was checking that while you were finishing your last answer.

521
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 2: I think he's seven and one against Nebraska. Love that.

522
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: How about the AX game.

523
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 1: He's won three of four against Wisconsin now and frankly

524
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: it should be four or five based on what I've

525
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: been seeing from Sconnieville thus far in twenty twenty five.

526
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 3: But no game is gearing in the twenty twenty game.

527
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 3: That one's still that went the COVID game. The Gopher

528
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 3: should have won that game. Yeah, Yeah, So slip away.

529
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: So with that, with that said, this is the this

530
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: is the one on the list. I feel like there's

531
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Speaker 1: a fervor around Gophers fans. Yep one in seven against

532
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: and I think they're one in nine in their last

533
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 1: ten against Iowa. And overall, I think Farrence is like

534
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: nineteen and six or nineteen those seven.

535
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: Overall, it is weird how.

536
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 3: You have the number like PJ I think against Purdue

537
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 3: was also like seven and one, and Perdue remember was

538
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 3: pretty good with Jeff Brahmin there absolutely and they got

539
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 3: in the league the same year, and there's always were

540
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 3: some comparisons. So there's got to be further around this game.

541
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,719
Speaker 3: There is, Yeah, we need to have the pig more often.

542
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 3: We do really to make it a good rivalry and

543
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 3: Wisconsin people, you know that for a while, that was

544
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 3: just that was just Remember when the Gophers won it

545
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen, that was the first time Minnesota had

546
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 3: won it in fifteen years, and we prayed that thing

547
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: around the state like it was the Lombardi Trophy, right,

548
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 3: And it was at the State Fair, and it was

549
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: at every little gathering, and the Gophers would take it

550
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 3: out on their fundraising trips and the Scanie fans would

551
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 3: would say, geez act like you've been there before, and

552
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 3: I would say, it's been fifteen years, and tell you

553
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 3: when you don't have something and you really want it

554
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 3: and you just don't and you finally get it, you're

555
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 3: going to celebrate it. And I think the Wisconsin fans

556
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 3: understand it a little more now that they haven't won

557
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 3: it each year, like it stings when you don't have it.

558
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 3: But Minnesota's pretty lucky. They've got, you know, three of

559
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 3: the great rivalry trophies in all of football. Right You've

560
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: got the Acts, You've got the Pig, and you've got

561
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 3: the Jug. The jug is literally the oldest sports trophy, yes,

562
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 3: in America, right n three.

563
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: We could use that more often.

564
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 3: You said, we don't play them that much, but you

565
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 3: know that, as you mentioned, when you're in this Big

566
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 3: ten and the way it stacks up with everything, that's

567
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 3: a hard, harder game to win than your I would

568
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 3: consider in terms of level of competition, class, you know,

569
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: the the you know class one, A, two A, three A,

570
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 3: four A, if you want to do it like high schools,

571
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 3: I think Minnesota to be in the same class as Wisconsin, Iowa,

572
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 3: and Nebraska. So you want to win those rivalry games

573
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: for sure, and occasionally you can you know, wait up

574
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 3: and punch above your weight, as they say, and you

575
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 3: hope to win that jug sometimes. I think twenty fourteen

576
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 3: was the last time, but they've only played you know,

577
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 3: they only played once every three years now, the way

578
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 3: the things set up anyway, Yes, I in fact, I

579
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 3: looked this up in researching the game a little, you know,

580
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 3: getting rolling on the boards last night at Kinnick Stadium.

581
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 3: Minnesota's three and nineteen in their last twenty two. So

582
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 3: it's hard. I mean that that Iowa program has been

583
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: pretty steady. There's been some dips for Minnesota in that stretch.

584
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 3: And you think three and nineteen in their last twenty two,

585
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 3: so that's twenty two games. That's not twenty two years.

586
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 3: It's for you play every other year, twenty two at Kinnick.

587
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: That goes back to the eighties, right mid eighties. So

588
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 3: i always had some good run in there. Minnesota's had

589
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 3: a few dips, and then when the teams have been

590
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 3: relatively even, Minnesota has not had as much luck either.

591
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: So it's time. We said last time it was time,

592
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 3: and they got it down there, and what you say

593
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: it was like a seven point seven point spread.

594
00:26:58,800 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: Is that what you said?

595
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: Well, I saw I think it's at eight eight. Okay, yeah,

596
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 3: so you're an underdog, you got nothing to lose. Let's

597
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 3: go down there and bring that to Floyda Rosedale back.

598
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: It's a great trophy.

599
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 2: There we go. You know, it's a great trophy, and

600
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: it does add to the game. It just does.

601
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 3: There's just an aspect of you wait to see who wins,

602
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: and then you know, whatever winning team charges to go

603
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 3: get the trophy, the axe, whatever it is, the pig.

604
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 3: There is just something about a rivalry game that includes

605
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: a trophy, and especially the older ones. Right now, they've

606
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 3: come up with some you know, the Governor's victory bell

607
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 3: with Penn State. I remember when the Gophers beat Penn

608
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: State in twenty nineteen.

609
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: It wasn't until like two days later.

610
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 3: That somebody said, you never mentioned the victory bell in

611
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 3: the call, and I'm like, I forgot the thing even existed. Sorry,

612
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, that just isn't in the top

613
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: of your mind. I think Iowa and Wisconsin like, hell.

614
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: You guys are too busy storm in the field.

615
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, way exactly. Daryl was lighting up a victory cigar

616
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: in the radio booth. Literally he was. And I don't

617
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: blame but the Iowa Wisconsin created like that I'm going

618
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 3: to say fifteen years ago maybe in their.

619
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 2: Rivalry, and that's a good rivalry. That's a border battle

620
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: as well.

621
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: Sure the Heartland Trophy and it's a cow, okay, and

622
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 3: you know it from from Wisconsin, I'm sure they think

623
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: it's a dairy cow, and from Iowa they probably think

624
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: it's a beef cow or.

625
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: What have you.

626
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 3: But for a beef myself, it isn't. There just isn't.

627
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: And maybe it's because I'm not part of that on

628
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 3: either side, but it seems to me that it's it

629
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: almost seems gimmicky because it was created recently, right just

630
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 3: as a just as a where you know, these things

631
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: like the jug is nineteen oh three, I don't remember

632
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 3: how far back. I think nineteen thirty six for the Floyd.

633
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: The first Floyd was a real pig live. The two

634
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: governors bet a real pig on the game, and so

635
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: I think it's like the mid thirties when that started.

636
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: And then they said, well, we can't do a live

637
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: pig every year, so let's let's bronze a pig. It's

638
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: ninety eight pounds, and here we are playing for it

639
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 3: every year.

640
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: Well, I'm scrambling to find when the pig first started.

641
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 3: I think it's the I think it's the mid thirties.

642
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: And it was a real pig from Rosedale Farms down

643
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 3: in like Fort Dodge, Iowa. And and the winning governor

644
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: got to I don't know what he did. I guess

645
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: he would butcher the pig. Well, I'm just I'm scrambling

646
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: via Wikipedia. President so FDR's former son in law Curtis Dahl,

647
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: who attended the nineteen thirty five game as a guest

648
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: to the governors, et cetera, et cetera. Well, the rivalry

649
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: was so heated, it had gotten to be heated, and

650
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: I think they sent somebody from the White House to say, hey,

651
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Speaker 3: we got to be calmer here. And as a peace offering,

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Speaker 3: the governors of both states decided, I mean, I think

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Speaker 3: that that will really that will really calm calm people.

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Speaker 3: Now you've put more at stake on the game that

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Speaker 1: well go go for crazy. I appreciate it and sad news.

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Speaker 1: I know you're a Kiss fan, Ace Freely. It sounded

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Speaker 2: What a life?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know when you think about Hey and

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Speaker 3: it's like kind of like that commercial whatever the workforce

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Speaker 3: are real life rock stars. Ace Freely was a real

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Speaker 3: in the mid nineties, and you know, it's the same concert.

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Speaker 3: Kiss has put on the same concert for forty years.

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Speaker 3: Paul Stanley talks about it. He's like, if we don't

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Speaker 3: put that concert on, people get mad. They don't want

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Speaker 3: to hear new Kiss songs. They want to hear the

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Speaker 3: Kiss songs that they and they want to see Gene

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Speaker 3: split Blood and they want to see him, you know,

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Speaker 3: throw a fireball, and they want to see him. They

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Speaker 3: want to see Paul fly out into the crowd and

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Speaker 3: sing love gun and they want to see Ace Freely

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Speaker 3: shoot out of the end of his guitar. Yeah, fake

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Speaker 3: bullets that then they're firecrackers across the way that make

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Speaker 3: of Ace Freely is in those when they reunited and

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Speaker 3: he would they had those sound effects with firecrackers and

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Speaker 3: it looked like he was shooting bullets out of his guitar.

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Speaker 2: Keyword bills.

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Speaker 1: Vikes Bites lost four to one last night in their

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Speaker 1: road trip finale at the New Jersey Devils. They're coming

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Speaker 1: home for six. Meanwhile, the Howell won their opener last night.

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Speaker 1: Tough night, by the way for Chauncey. Billups here at

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Speaker 1: least in the last I'd say sixteen eighteen hours, however long.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if you knew the FBI was going to

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Speaker 2: be at.

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Speaker 1: His doorstep this morning as as he was taken into

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Speaker 1: custody along with Miami Heat player Terry Rosier. They were

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Speaker 1: arrested yesterday as part of a pair of investigations.

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Speaker 2: This is per ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Related to illegal gambling, and so Rogier was arrested let

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Speaker 1: me see here this morning at a hotel in Orlando,

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Speaker 1: and then Billups he was arrested in Oregon as part

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Speaker 1: of a separate but related illegal gambling case linked to

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Speaker 1: an illegal poker operation tied to the mafia.

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Speaker 2: My goodness. Let me see.

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Speaker 1: Former Cleveland CALVS player and assistant coach Damon Jones was

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Speaker 1: arrested as part of providing let me see, providing inside

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Speaker 1: information about NBA games to code defendants.

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Speaker 2: And you found some audio.

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Speaker 1: Cash Betel, of course, director of the FBI, spoke to

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Speaker 1: the media, I think around forty minutes ago, and I

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Speaker 1: think you found like a ninety second clip of him

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Speaker 1: just kind of summing up exactly what's going on where

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Speaker 1: this is a massive, massive story connecting the mafia and

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Speaker 1: sports gambling.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear from Cash.

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Speaker 4: To announce a historic arrest across a wide, sweeping criminal

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Speaker 4: enterprise that envelops both the NBA.

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Speaker 2: And Lakasa Nostra.

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Speaker 4: The men and women up here standing with me represent

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Speaker 4: a small portion of the leadership team that brought profound

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Speaker 4: justice in an era that needed it more than any

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Speaker 4: I'll just highlight some of some of the details in

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Speaker 4: the case and the FBI work, and then you'll hear

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Speaker 4: from the others. But as you now know, individuals such

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Speaker 4: as Chauncey Billups, Damon Jones, and Terry Rozier were taking

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Speaker 4: into custody today former current NBA players and coaches. What

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Speaker 4: you don't know is that this is an illegal gambling

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Speaker 4: operation and sports rigging operation that spanned the course of years.

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Speaker 4: The FBI led a coordinative takedown across eleven states to

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Speaker 4: arrest over thirty individuals today responsible for this case, which

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Speaker 4: is very much ongoing. Not only did we crack into

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Speaker 4: the fraud that these perpetrators committed on the grand stage

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Speaker 4: of the NBA, but we also entered and executed a

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Speaker 4: system of justice against La Casinostra to include the Bonano, Gambino,

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Speaker 4: Genevesi and Luchase crime families, and you'll hear more about

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Speaker 4: those details today. The charges and the arrests that were

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Speaker 4: taken down across this country range from wire fraud, money laundering, extortion, robbery,

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Speaker 4: illegal gambling. This FBI will leave no room for any

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Speaker 4: perpetrator of crime across this country. You hear a lot

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Speaker 4: about our work of defending the homeland and crushing violent crime. Well,

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Speaker 4: this work is also representative of a colossal portion of

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Speaker 4: the FBI's mandate to keep America safe and to keep

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Speaker 4: our entertainment industry fair and secure.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we're good on that. Brett.

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Speaker 1: Thirty individuals, eleven states, multiple years, and we've heard a

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Speaker 1: few again. Chauncey Billups, Damon Terry Rozier are the three

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Speaker 1: names that we've heard many more to come out connection

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Speaker 1: to the mob. Brett, how about that, I've always just

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Speaker 1: in casual conversation. I mean, there's an allure whether you

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Speaker 1: watch The Godfather or Goodfellas, there's kind of a you know,

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Speaker 1: Sopranos and d hof TV show that that is there's

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Speaker 1: kind of an allure as an outsider like that that

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Speaker 1: mob life in the way it's portrayed in media. However,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just just a dumb ass kid from

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Speaker 1: man Cato, Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about the mafia, but.

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Speaker 1: You read you read stories, you watch documentaries and all

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Speaker 1: those things. But I've always kind of wondered through the technology,

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Speaker 1: through the technological age, how has the mafia evolved? And

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Speaker 1: nowadays I'm just kind of picturing like they're those they

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Speaker 1: got bot farms running like tele you know, cell phone

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Speaker 1: scams and internet bits, like they've been finding different ways

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Speaker 1: to take advantage of it, and thinking when it comes

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Speaker 1: to like sports betting and sports gambling, throwing games and

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Speaker 1: things like that. Point shaving. I forget who the Arizona

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Speaker 1: State player was back in the day. That was a

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Speaker 1: huge story, but just kind of the idea at some point,

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Speaker 1: as athletes begun to make so much money, there's so

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Speaker 1: much money in professional sports, and in talking about the

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Speaker 1: nil era, there's some money in college sports too. You're

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Speaker 1: thinking of like Johntay Porter, you heard it, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's he's running his own props and maybe he makes

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00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: one hundred grand off of that and sacrifices his entire

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Speaker 1: NBA career. This is just insanity where Jouncey Billip I

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Speaker 1: can only assume It's not like I'm looking at his

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Speaker 1: bank account here tens of millions of dollars over the

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Speaker 1: course of his career.

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Speaker 2: He's the head coach of a freaking NBA team.

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Speaker 1: Now, it's not you know, people can be leaned on

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Speaker 1: and if there are gambling debts or there's leverage that

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Speaker 1: is imposed and things over the course of time. You know,

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Speaker 1: these individuals when they want to make that cash, they

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Speaker 1: can be pretty relentless. I get it, But how do

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Speaker 1: you get yourself in that spot? I mean, these people

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Speaker 1: aren't making pennies here. I mean you think about what

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Speaker 1: you know a couple hundred grand would do to your life,

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Speaker 1: for my life, et cetera. I mean, these guys have

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Speaker 1: been in the top point one percent for a very

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Speaker 1: long time, and even they are potentially at risk of

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Speaker 1: being captured by organized crime.

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Speaker 2: This is craziness, man, the FBI.

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Speaker 5: This comes from senior ESPN writer Dan Wetzel. The two

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Speaker 5: operations in the two cases in the gambling probe are

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Speaker 5: named Operation Nothing But Debt and Operation Royal Flush.

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Speaker 2: It's brilliant. I don't know if that's satire or not,

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Speaker 2: but I'm running with it.

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Speaker 1: That's probably part of I mean, you know, the ability

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Speaker 1: to investigate and potentially bring down these things.

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Speaker 2: There has to be a rush.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just the you know when you put something,

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Speaker 1: when you put a group of guys together and gals

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Speaker 1: in a room and it's like, all right, we're going

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Speaker 1: after these guys. There's got to be some excitements and motivation.

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Speaker 1: It's naming the operation. It's got to be kind of fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: part of it, I should say, still very early in

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Speaker 1: terms of who the other names are and exactly the

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Speaker 1: implications of some of what's going on, but certainly massive news,

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Speaker 1: and it appears at this stage MBA focused interested again

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Speaker 1: as more names and more information comes out exactly where

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Speaker 1: things are headed with this thing. But wow, huge huge

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Speaker 1: betting connection between the mafia, Chelncey, Billups what just crazy,

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Speaker 1: crazy news coming out earlier this morning, and we'll try

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Speaker 1: to keep posted on it as new stuff pops up.

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Speaker 1: When we return, well, we'll do some Vikes bites and

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Speaker 1: catch up on the clock and then again Pa, he's

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Speaker 1: in LA and we'll talk about Vikes at so fa

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Speaker 2: I can't help it.

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Speaker 1: I just keep refreshing social and just waiting for more

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Speaker 1: names and such. With this NBA betting, you got billups

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Speaker 1: and some poker rigging bit man, it's kind of weird.

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Speaker 1: It's I don't know, I shouldn't be attracted to bad

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Speaker 1: and you just want to kind of become obsessed with it.

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Speaker 1: But Minnesota Vikings looking for good news tonight at so

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Speaker 1: Far facing the Los Angeles Chargers. If everything goes according

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Speaker 1: to rhythm, should be a w right win loss win, loss,

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Speaker 1: win loss win tonight against Justin Herbert and the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to that Vikes Bites with the host around

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Speaker 1: the corner, Pa joining from Los Angeles. Vikes Bites is

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Speaker 2: Where are we headed to, Brett?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm scrolling Twitter just to make sure that Benny,

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Speaker 5: the Bowl and the Sun's guerrillas okay and have not

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Speaker 5: been taking into custody.

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Speaker 2: I think Crunch is fine. We'll go here. Bikes Bites.

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Speaker 5: You have to start with the QB and I'm putting

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Speaker 5: together the Common Man montage at the same time as

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Speaker 5: running the show Full Disclosure, And I was just listening

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Speaker 5: to Koc say, this is a Sunday game. Maybe would

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Speaker 5: have pushed JJ and maybe would have been okay to go,

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Speaker 5: but just because it's a Thursday, we didn't feel comfortable

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Speaker 5: pushing him. So Carson Wentz is your starter? Where's your

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Speaker 5: gauge on the urgency meter that Wentz is starting tonight.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean urgency in terms of getting the victory.

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Speaker 1: I admittedly following the Eagles game as frustrating as I was,

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Speaker 1: as frustrated as I was with the regression that we saw. Again,

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Speaker 1: you know a lot of I've joked about the seven

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Speaker 1: oh one's, the seven oh one area codes popping into

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Speaker 1: the text message machine about Carson, you know, and D

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Speaker 1: and D's fine is Carson Wentz Bismarck, the love of Bismarck,

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Speaker 1: go buys in against South Dakota State. I have no

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's I think they have a

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Speaker 1: trophy and it's like a giant rock or something like that.

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Speaker 1: But but no, I have no I have no dog

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Speaker 1: in the fight. Hopefully it's a great game number one,

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Speaker 1: number two, that's super cool. But but to that end,

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Speaker 1: massive regression. He was inaccurate, as inaccurate as we've seen him.

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Speaker 1: How much is the shoulder hurting him?

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Speaker 2: Et cetera.

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Speaker 1: But I never had any any feeling that that JJ

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Speaker 1: was going to return tonight against the Chargers. So in

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Speaker 1: terms of UH, in terms of Carson playing, I'm not

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Speaker 1: surprised by it.

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Speaker 2: The way that you led into it.

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Speaker 1: Though with if it may have been as if it

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Speaker 1: was a Sunday game, the conversation could be different. Around McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: I think it's just the same conversation. When he's healthy,

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Speaker 1: he's going to play and so and I think that's

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Speaker 1: regardless of how Carson performs tonight. I want him to

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Speaker 1: throw four hundred and four against the against the Chargers

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Speaker 1: this evening and just get some runaway w that'd be sweet.

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Speaker 1: And I'm rooting for Carson, but but I just I

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Speaker 1: just think that that JJ around the corner. When he's healthy,

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Speaker 1: he's he's absolutely gonna play. Text message, what Regression Wentz

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Speaker 1: is who he is? Text message is six four six

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Speaker 1: eighty six. I always appreciated, but I got this text

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Speaker 1: what Regression Wentz is who he is? That was as

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Speaker 1: bad a game with the opportunities presented as I've seen

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Speaker 1: from Carson Wentz. You have to factor in that shoulder injury,

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Speaker 1: potentially something else that we're not aware of. You can

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Speaker 1: talk about ribs, he can talk about a hip, whatever

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Speaker 1: it is. He's been getting just blasted and he keeps

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Speaker 1: getting up. But it was ugly on Sunday. Needs to

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Speaker 1: be less so this.

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Speaker 2: Evening bikes bites, bikes, bikes.

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Speaker 5: The other big talker is the tackle situation on both

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Speaker 5: sides of the line, most importantly CD of course significant soreness.

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Speaker 5: It would be a huge, massive concern if not either

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Speaker 5: one of them could play. I'm just I would be

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Speaker 5: very worried if neither one of them go for the

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Speaker 5: Viking side because that CD. I mean when he was

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Speaker 5: out earlier on and then when he came back, it

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Speaker 5: was night and day different when Darisaw was in compared

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Speaker 5: to worrying is out. So you got to hope that

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Speaker 5: he at least gets some sort of snaps tonight.

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Speaker 1: This is this is worrisome, not so much. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's it's worrisome if O'Neil doesn't play. Was less surprised

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Speaker 1: though throughout the week he saw limited and limited and

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Speaker 1: such in terms of him making his return making all

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Speaker 1: the snaps.

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Speaker 2: This one's a little weird.

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Speaker 1: You get the bye week, he's on the he's on

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Speaker 1: the pitch count, and then okay, we can just kind

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Speaker 1: of wash our hands of the idea of ramping him up.

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Speaker 2: We're just gonna plug him in at left tackle.

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Speaker 1: But I think whether it was Ian Rappaport this morning,

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Speaker 1: and just kind of seeing the way that the the

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Speaker 1: injury report played out with the final one going yesterday

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Speaker 1: and seeing him as questionable and seeing him apparently having

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Speaker 1: pain in that knee.

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Speaker 2: This is problematic, man.

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Speaker 1: And and not that the I mean Khalil Mack is

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Speaker 1: not what he used to be, so I mean and

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Speaker 1: I don't want to give him an opportunity against Justin's

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Speaker 1: School to find the days of old, certainly, but this

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Speaker 1: team can get after you a little bit, and it

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Speaker 1: is incredibly worrisome and potentially a problem if neither of

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Speaker 1: them go. So now you think about Justin's School, you

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Speaker 1: got Walter Rouse in the mix, you're already kind of

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Speaker 1: wondering what Kevin O'Connell has up his sleeve in terms

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Speaker 1: of the center spot. Not that he was vague or ambiguous,

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Speaker 1: just kind of we're going to see who's the best

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Speaker 1: now that Michael Jurgens has returned to the fold and

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Speaker 1: practicing in full and Brandell frankly did not have a

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Speaker 1: good game. His second game at center was not as

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Speaker 1: good as his first in London. So potentially musical chairs

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Speaker 1: again with this group, you know, you might have a

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Speaker 1: justin school. On one side, does Brandell come out and

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Speaker 1: play tackle.

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Speaker 2: Or are you using Walter Rouse.

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Speaker 1: I'm just so exhausted having these offensive line combination conversations.

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Speaker 1: And in the end, I think we've had fifteen different

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Speaker 1: combos through six games. Sounds like it could be sixteen

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Speaker 1: potentially tonight.

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Speaker 2: Fikes Bikes got one more in you I do as

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Speaker 2: I roll back, So I'm like, what do you think

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Speaker 2: of the Chargers? Where's your meter on them?

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Speaker 5: Because they started off red hot, they spanked the Chiefs

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Speaker 5: in week one, they looked very good. They're three and zero.

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Speaker 5: They've lost three of their last four, including to the Giants,

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Speaker 5: to the Commanders, to the Colts.

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Speaker 2: Not very good losses.

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Speaker 5: And the only team they've beaten the last four was

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Speaker 5: the Dolphins, who are just a dumpster fire. But Herbert

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Speaker 5: is very good and Harbaugh is, for the most part

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Speaker 5: a good coach. Where's your temperature at with the Chargers?

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Speaker 1: Well, my temperature at and well we'll talk more about

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Speaker 1: this right around the corner with the host but in

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Speaker 1: the end, with Aaron Jones potentially returning to the lineup,

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Speaker 1: if we can establish the run, the Chargers have allowed

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Speaker 1: a buck forty a game over the last five in

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Speaker 1: which they are I believe two and three in that stretch,

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Speaker 1: and you mentioned they've lost three the last four. They

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Speaker 1: also cannot run the ball right now, and I'm still

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out exactly is it Vidal Sassoon, oh

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Speaker 1: Kamadi Vedal is there? Starting running back Hassan Haskins. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's out in this game or if

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Speaker 1: he's questionable. But O'marion Hampton, the rookie tar Heel and

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Speaker 1: then and then Najie Harris both not part of this equation.

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Speaker 1: Naji the whole year, Amarion Hampton at least the next month.

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Speaker 1: So uh, they can't run the ball, which has led

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Speaker 1: Herbert now to I believe leading the NFL in passing yards.

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Speaker 2: So this is a very gettable team.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But the way that Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 1: Got us on Sunday was was with deep passes and

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Speaker 1: second chance opportunities where he buys himself a couple extra

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Speaker 1: seconds and then aj Brown and DeVante Smith are open

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Speaker 1: down the field. Similarly, tonight, you're worried about Keenan Allen,

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Speaker 1: who always has career games against us. You're worried about

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Speaker 1: Lad McConkie, a terrific young start to start to his

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Speaker 1: young career. And then and then gwenton Johnston, and they

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Speaker 1: might be that's their big play guy, their deep threat

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Speaker 1: down the field, if they're able to extend it down

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Speaker 1: the field the way that the Eagles were.

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Speaker 2: In just a handful of plays against the Purple.

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Speaker 1: Uh, We're we're gonna be uh, We're gonna be having

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Speaker 1: some tough, some tough texts and talkbacks during fan line

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Speaker 1: tonight so that that can't be the way it was

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Speaker 1: against the Birds. That's Vikes Bites, Thank you, Brett, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Thousand Hills. When we return, we'll check

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Speaker 1: in with Pa who's in Los Angeles, get his thoughts

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Speaker 1: on the health situation with the old line, the QB,

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Speaker 1: and just how we beat the Bolts tonight mission beat

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Speaker 1: the Bolts at so far. We'll continue this into the

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Speaker 1: second hour. It's Nordo in for Pa, but with Pa

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Speaker 1: next on the fan