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Speaker 2: One time a driver was asked if he's like, hey, man,

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Speaker 3: And I'm like what And he got out and peede

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Speaker 4: Listen, the more you use the service exactly, the more

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Speaker 5: Well, it changed when it went from being like a

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Speaker 5: side hustle when someone would hand you a screenplay or

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Speaker 5: have to tell you about like how they're really selling

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Speaker 5: gemstones and this is just you know, covering the losses. Yes,

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Speaker 5: when it became the professional Armenians that like took over

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Speaker 3: But that's only in LA. That's that's your South Southern

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Speaker 3: California experience.

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Speaker 6: Here.

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Speaker 2: It's like you're literally like, I guys that work out

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Speaker 5: But here's the best thing about the Pittsburgh But.

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Speaker 3: That sounded bad. It did not come out the way

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Speaker 3: I meant. It's a different app.

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Speaker 1: Really that Brandy Bellman and the DV Morning Show.

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Speaker 2: Joey bart Nick levin Studio with us this morning, and

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Speaker 2: Sean Callier here as well. Before we get to Abby's news,

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Speaker 2: we got cut off a little bit before getting to

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Speaker 2: the final sort of summation of Penguin six Flyers three

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Speaker 2: last night. Mike Sidney Crosby gets off the schneid, as

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Speaker 2: he always seems to do against the Flyers, puts one

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Speaker 7: I also had helper in the Penn's sixty three victory

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Speaker 7: last night. You can't talk about the Penns beating the

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Speaker 7: Flyers without mentioning Sidney Crosby. Those two points pushed him

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Speaker 7: over fifty to fifty one on the season. Now, this

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Speaker 7: is Crosby's nineteenth fifty points season of his career, temporarily

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Speaker 7: ties Alex Ovechkin for the most by an active player

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Speaker 7: and for the sixth most all time. He has one

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Speaker 7: hundred career system against Philly regular season of playoffs combined,

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Speaker 7: and in ninety three career games against Philly regular season

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Speaker 7: and playoffs combined, sixty goals, seventy nine assists, one hundred

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Speaker 1: Unreal.

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Speaker 2: Joey B how was it in the arena last night? Oh,

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Speaker 2: it was a celebration of Penguin Hockey. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 2: everybody super Bowl. Now we're two zero and one.

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Speaker 5: We've always taken the point from the cream stickles Sidney

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Speaker 5: Crosby doing the Lord's work again.

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Speaker 2: I like these sort of like intermittent celebrations amidst the season,

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Speaker 2: you know, where it's like, uh, yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 2: that we're gonna win the Stanley Cup here, but these

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Speaker 2: are still big monumental games, and you want to see

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Speaker 2: some progress within the organization with the players that they

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Speaker 5: You just want to beat Philadelphia. I was taking the

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Speaker 8: They had a little margarita with me, and they literally texted, Versey,

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Speaker 5: I always do that, okay, and then you take the train.

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Speaker 5: Take it on the train. Yeah, take it on the train.

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Speaker 5: And I'm there and I was getting emotional because it's

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Speaker 5: going to war versus. And when you're going to war,

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Speaker 2: Comedian Paul Versey was your I'm about to go up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta tell my loved ones. I'm thinking of

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Speaker 7: And you know, fifty six, I love that you still

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Speaker 7: it's just a beautiful thing. It's just what I want

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Speaker 5: And you know, we had a couple of early power

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Speaker 5: They always wanted to like, hey, we'll stick you in

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Speaker 5: You know it's Hey, it's money making night.

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Speaker 3: Well look they can have a talk with him about

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Speaker 7: Now, pic because they go on the road for four

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Speaker 2: Is this the trip that they go Oh no, this

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Speaker 7: It's at Carolina, at Vegas, at Utah, at Colorado, at Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's that far along. It's in the March. Okay.

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Speaker 2: We were trying to plan out some morning show stuff

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Speaker 2: and I remember getting that one thrown at me.

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Speaker 3: I'm like Jesus.

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Speaker 2: They say, brutal road trip, but going Pacific Northwest is

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Speaker 5: No, you know, it's the time change, it's a little

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Speaker 2: Mike de Fabo, who wrote the piece on coach Tomlin's

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Speaker 2: seven forty five. Don Wahs, legendary music producer and performer

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Speaker 2: who's at the Thunderbird tonight in Lawrenceville.

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Speaker 8: He'll join us at eight o'clock. Abbey has a news

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Speaker 4: This hour is brought to you by Keystone Basement Systems

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Speaker 4: Web Basement Keystone Basementsystems dot Com. It's mostly cloudy, not

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Speaker 4: as cold today, although this a great a little afternoon snow.

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievably cold.

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Speaker 9: Take nineteen degrees right now.

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Speaker 3: It feels way colder than that. I don't know why.

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Speaker 4: going to be a high of twenty seven. Jack Osbourne

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Speaker 4: has provided an update on the upcoming Ozzy Osbourne biopic,

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Speaker 9: Won't say who it is, all right.

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Speaker 3: This kind of bums me out.

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Speaker 2: I hope it's somebody young, because to me, the interesting

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Speaker 2: Ozzy is the the through Sabbath in the first three

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Speaker 2: Every time I hear about a music bio pick going

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Speaker 2: I thought to cast Jason Schwartzman when he was younger.

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Speaker 3: He looks like Keith Moon.

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Speaker 2: He like has the capability of doing that crazy sort

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Speaker 3: You can't play him.

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Speaker 8: I'm not sure Keith Moon's selling the tickets in Hollywood

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Speaker 3: May I love him?

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Speaker 8: I feel like they've he's got the If you're Willy

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Speaker 8: Wonka and Bob Dylan, you could be anything. Oh that'll

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Speaker 8: get that'll get people in the theater. What I want

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Speaker 3: Well he's English too, right, Yeah, yeah, that could work.

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Speaker 2: Well that makes sense. Yeah, that would be a that

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Speaker 2: but there's a lot of those English guys like Mescal

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Speaker 9: I think he's Paul in the upcoming Beatles biopics.

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Speaker 5: Yeah exactly, and then then he gets fired from Black

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Speaker 5: the Blizzard of Oz. Yes, that's that's I don't want

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Speaker 5: to see him when you know with his kids going around.

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Speaker 2: Oh you know, no, I don't want to see reality

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Speaker 2: show Ozzy.

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Speaker 3: I want that. That's the era I want to see.

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Speaker 2: And and it ends with like, you know, Randy Rhodes

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Speaker 2: or like the second half or the third act of

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Speaker 2: the movie is Randy Rhodes exactly era Ozzy.

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Speaker 8: Because then you can do a sequel, you can do

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Speaker 8: the do the reality later life Ozzy as the second movie,

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Speaker 3: You know my thoughts on that.

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Speaker 2: I think Shalomy should keep doing Dylan movies and just

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Speaker 2: keep going through every part of Dylan's life and the

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Speaker 2: next one should be post motorcycle accident, uh, up to

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Speaker 2: Dylan finds Jesus, because that was a weird period of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, second, class right.

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Speaker 9: It was part of the dogma.

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Speaker 3: I think we'll have fun.

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Speaker 2: my favorite thing about them is hearing the songs through

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Speaker 3: They did.

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Speaker 3: The whatever six and they're.

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Speaker 3: I loved it. It was the music was really good,

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Speaker 3: but for old people like me. Eddie and the Cruisers.

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Speaker 2: Eddie and the Cruisers was an eighties movie that, no,

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Speaker 2: they're not a band, they are a fake band that

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Speaker 2: John Cafferty in the Beaver Brown Band like on heavy

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Speaker 3: Talk Shots, coming Down, Nothing News Real.

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Speaker 2: It's the most hilarious fake band movie. And then the

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Speaker 2: third one that immediately comes to mind is the Oneaters.

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Speaker 3: Great that thing you do do?

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Speaker 8: I almost I think the Eerie minor League team were

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Speaker 8: a commitment that I'm looking for. It's hard to not

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Speaker 8: go straight to spinal tap. Well, there you go, there's

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Speaker 9: What's the famous what do they call it?

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Speaker 3: Sweetwater?

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Speaker 3: Sweetwater's real.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, sure that they like tears up the band where

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Speaker 3: Do you know what shirt I have? The Jeff Bbi band?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love that shirt. Yeah, it's just a

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Speaker 2: picture of what's his name from? My name is Earl

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Speaker 3: Back when we were the Jeff Baby band Man.

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Speaker 5: The Bandroom step Brothers.

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Speaker 2: The Billy Joel cover band, or the one that the

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Speaker 2: Billy Joel covered.

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Speaker 3: They only play.

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Speaker 8: A little more in my generation sex Ba Bam from

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Speaker 8: Scott Pilgrim versus the world love that music. Okay, that's

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Speaker 8: more indie punk kind of thing. And don't forget one's

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Speaker 8: gonna win an oscar in a month and a half.

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Speaker 8: Hunters from K Pop Demon Hunters really good. I have

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Speaker 2: Every time it comes up, I could not feel more

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Speaker 3: It love it.

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Speaker 9: Oh, soundtrack is a banger. YEP, it's really good.

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Speaker 3: It's I didn't.

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Speaker 8: I didn't watch it when it came out, and I

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Speaker 3: The music's good.

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Speaker 4: At first when she said she wanted to watch it,

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Speaker 4: animation is really good, Like everything about it is really

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Speaker 3: How weird would it be if I watched it like

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Speaker 9: The background and pretend like you're not in love with it?

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Speaker 8: Not any more than any you know, acclaimed picture movie

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Speaker 8: you know who's great and we and it's not fun anymore?

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Speaker 3: Just so skipping the Blues Brothers pretty pretty good. But

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Speaker 3: they're not but they're not fakes. But if they're not fake,

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Speaker 4: Fake, TAOUSD would have been fake, right, and then it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Neo has rocked. Those melodies are so damn good.

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Speaker 2: I remember when that first Tenacious D record came out

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Speaker 2: I mean, with Jack Black's voice, I was like, why

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Speaker 3: This is one of the greatest singers I've ever heard,

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Speaker 3: And he had like the perfect cross between doing like

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Speaker 8: When they honored the Who, they were incredible. Today's just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess there's a lot more fake fun bands

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Speaker 3: But to me, it all goes back to Eddie and

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Speaker 5: Because there was no Internet, you just thought they were

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Speaker 3: I was faked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, because MTV would play the real band, John

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Speaker 2: Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band. That's the major was

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Speaker 2: part of the New Jersey Bruce Springsteen, Southside, Johnny Joegersky

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Speaker 7: in cinema. Yes, I don't know if you're familiar with

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Speaker 7: a movie starring Robert Duval tender Mercy.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good one.

447
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Speaker 7: He plays it down and out country singer who drunk

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Speaker 7: himself out of famous fortune.

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Speaker 3: And crazy Heart, same way, the Jeff Bridges.

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Speaker 2: One, right, but some some good songs in there, Honky

451
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Speaker 2: tunk Man, Clint Eastwood, same thing.

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Speaker 3: It's some great songs in there, and it was kind

453
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Speaker 3: of the same character.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well not a typical country guy. Yeah, Hey, make

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Speaker 7: my Day by Robert Duval is just such a phenomenal actor.

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Speaker 7: He can Clay Andrew roll and he nailed this one. Yes,

457
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Speaker 7: by the guy that he said he drunk himself out

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Speaker 7: of fame and he had tragedy and then even when

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Speaker 7: he got it together, there was more tragedy and just

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Speaker 7: how life can max ledge. Yes, life can keep kicking

461
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Speaker 7: you in the nuts and you just got to keep going.

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Speaker 8: Tess Harper, Betty Buckley, and Wolford Brimley semi unscrupulous agent.

463
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Speaker 8: You keep drinking like that, you're gonna get the diabetes.

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Speaker 7: Steelers list of potential successors to Mike Tomlin is growing,

465
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Speaker 7: and I'm sure one of the names reported yesterday, Clay Kubiak,

466
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Speaker 7: the offensive coordinator of the San Francisco forty nine ers,

467
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Speaker 7: has gotten people's attention to the sense that people want

468
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Speaker 7: to see an offensive innovator come in and want to

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Speaker 7: see the offense modernize and do all kinds of jazzy

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Speaker 7: New Age kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: That's what I think the fan basic gets excited about

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Speaker 2: when they hear those names. The defensive guys, I think

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Speaker 2: they think more of the same.

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Speaker 7: Now here's the monkey in that wrench. You don't have

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Speaker 7: a quarterback, and you're probably gonna end up with a

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Speaker 7: game manager because this is probably not the year to

477
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Speaker 7: go shopping for a franchise quarterback in the draft, and

478
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Speaker 7: those guys are rarely, if ever available in free agency.

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Speaker 3: So what you might have to morph into here is.

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Speaker 7: A team that the follow along runs the ball and

481
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Speaker 7: plays defense, right, which is I'm sure not what anybody

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Speaker 7: wants to hear. But if they're going to have any

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Speaker 7: success next year, I think that's going to be the path.

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Speaker 3: Do they have Gamewell on a one year yep?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 3: What are the chances they can lure him back? Because

487
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Speaker 3: he might have made himself a lot of money.

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Speaker 7: I mean, if they were just rolling with it, I

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Speaker 7: would have said very good, yes, But who knows now.

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Speaker 7: I mean it's a new regime, and you know, all

491
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Speaker 7: the assistants have been told go get another job, because

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Speaker 7: you're probably not gonna get or you might not get

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Speaker 7: retained here. If you're him, what do you do? Take

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Speaker 7: the money and run right, Yeah, because you don't know

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Speaker 7: what kind of role you're gonna have or how much

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Speaker 7: you're gonna be featured. There's no certainty here anymore.

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Speaker 3: No, there's not. That's why you hope Caleb Johnson is

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Speaker 3: not Bustola. It's trending towards Bustville. Mike, it was. We

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Speaker 3: saw that worked out with Roma Wilson.

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Speaker 5: But Mike, now, if you think you found the offensive

501
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Speaker 5: guru that you want, isn't it easier to find a

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Speaker 5: defensive guy that can coach up some guys than to

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Speaker 5: get a defensive guy and then find an offensive genius.

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Speaker 3: Don't know, maybe, but I know this much. We didn't

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Speaker 3: have one. We had Terol Austin. I know this much.

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Speaker 7: You're probably not gonna scheme chicken salad out of.

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Speaker 5: Something other than chickens, no ballad. But it just seems

508
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Speaker 5: like there's way more defensive gurus. The guys that can

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Speaker 5: have good defenses in there are offensive genius, but their

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Speaker 5: parallel moves for those people that all.

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Speaker 3: Those guys were interviewing.

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Speaker 2: It's not like you're gonna lure someone from being the

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Speaker 2: decoordinator of the Rams to be the decordinator of the Steelers.

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Speaker 7: No, you're gonna lure him to be the head coach

515
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Speaker 7: of the Steelers, right, that's how you get them. And

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Speaker 7: now the wild card is Sielhass because he is not

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Speaker 7: a coordinator. He's the passing game coordinator, but he's not

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Speaker 7: the offensive coordinator, so theoret and he's also very young,

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Speaker 7: hasn't been doing this very long. He is a guy

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Speaker 7: who theoretically could be hired by a defensive coordinator who

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Speaker 7: becomes your head coach, and Shielhaus has made the offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 7: And then you figure, Okay, he's gonna be here for

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Speaker 7: a couple of years till somebody thinks he's ready to

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Speaker 7: be a head coach. But again, is he gonna want

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Speaker 7: to make that leap into quarterback unknown?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I hate the uncertainty. This is the part of the

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Speaker 2: change that is tough. Things have to change.

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Speaker 3: This is what people don't think about when they're screaming

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Speaker 3: fire Tomlin. I think they do. I think that.

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Speaker 2: I think that it is wrong to say that everybody

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Speaker 2: that wanted Tomlin gone, didn't realize it would require a

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Speaker 2: major reboot. It's not like everyone's sitting there going, oh no,

534
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Speaker 2: what did I do after they push the plunger down

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Speaker 2: and everything blows up.

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Speaker 3: I think most people understand that.

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Speaker 6: It's the.

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Speaker 2: Process of going through it that can be kind of hard,

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Speaker 2: because your growth bone isn't used to having to grow meat. Also,

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Speaker 2: you just want there to be meat on the growth bone, abbey,

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Speaker 2: But now we have to actually generate some meat to.

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Speaker 3: Put on that growth bone. Either that or they hired

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Speaker 3: with the lower meat from another.

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Speaker 8: You won't, No, I don't gotta go find a big

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Speaker 8: piece of meat and get that meat's attention, right, get

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Speaker 8: that meat to kind of stand up and notice it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, alternative to say higher sheelhouse.

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Speaker 7: And after they lose to Cleveland, to fall to three

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Speaker 7: and twelve, he says, well, that's about as well as

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Speaker 7: we can do.

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Speaker 3: There really was no more meat on that boat. It

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Speaker 3: was like the wing bones in the bucket when you

553
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Speaker 3: drank too much and.

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Speaker 7: You hate them already, right, but you still want more wings,

555
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Speaker 7: so you pick them up and look around and look,

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Speaker 7: uh nope, yeah, he's no more.

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Speaker 2: Meat in the secondment, he turned it into a different

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Speaker 2: kind of meat. He did a meat conversion last night.

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Speaker 2: Crosby met the back of the net as he.

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Speaker 3: Does against Philadelphia.

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Speaker 10: Malkins, got it to La Tang high slot side skates,

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Speaker 10: throws it off the ndboards to Russ. He turns around,

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Speaker 10: passes it to Malkin lt Tang again on loads trickles

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Speaker 10: wider than that on the redirection and now to Malkin

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Speaker 10: to Crosby. Scar make it sixty career goals for Sidney

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Speaker 10: Crosby against the Philadelphia Flyers, and it's five one Penguins

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Speaker 10: who dominate the power play.

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Speaker 7: Six to three year final Penguins improving on the season

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Speaker 7: to twenty two, fourteen and ten. They're not in the

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Speaker 7: wild card picture there in third place in the Metro,

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Speaker 7: which takes that whole wildcard thing right out of the equation.

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Speaker 5: Yes, so we uh yeah, we're in the playoffs now.

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Speaker 5: We don't even have to because we actually have to win.

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Speaker 5: We have to be in our division because now the

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Speaker 5: Atlantic is so strong, we're not going to get a

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Speaker 5: wild card. Probably not gonna wild card. I'm not going

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Speaker 5: to chinx this, but fun scene at the arena last night.

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Speaker 5: It was a It was a party. I mean yes,

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Speaker 5: and even I I was listening. I was listening to

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Speaker 5: the old two niner. He was fired up on the

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Speaker 5: radio because he said there was like, you know, five

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Speaker 5: or six very loud flyers.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know if we can say the

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Speaker 3: word or not fans, no, because of the nests. Ends

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Speaker 3: with the nests.

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Speaker 9: I don't know say flyers suck.

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Speaker 3: We can say that fire suck.

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Speaker 9: Ye say that, honey, That's what I said in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean that's my mom. Yeah, you just

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Speaker 2: can't say what they're sucking. Okay, Yeah, don was rock

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Speaker 2: and roll legend at eight o'clock. And when we come

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Speaker 2: back from this commercial break, Mike to Fable from The

593
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Speaker 2: Athletic talking about the piece he wrote yesterday that really

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Speaker 2: kind of set the whole NFL a buzz about what

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Speaker 2: seemed like a very dramatic scene as Mike Tomlin said

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Speaker 2: goodbye to his Pittsburgh Steeler.

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Speaker 1: Team, the fourth Ghost of Christmas past that Lingers Good.

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Speaker 2: Morning Show and joined right now by Mike to Fable

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Speaker 2: from the Athletic, whose piece on Mike Tomlins informing the

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Speaker 2: team of his resignation was all the buzz on the

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Speaker 2: NFL media landscape yesterday and Mike, good morning, how are you, buddy?

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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me man Hey, thanks for making

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Speaker 3: time and really well done.

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Speaker 2: And I'm glad you got your flowers all day yesterday

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Speaker 2: from everybody, because that was a really insightful piece on

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Speaker 2: a moment that everybody in Steeler Nation was hoping.

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Speaker 3: To have a window on. And it really seemed to

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Speaker 3: me like something out of a movie the scene that

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Speaker 3: you set.

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Speaker 2: Did you get the notion from the people that you

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Speaker 2: talked to that the sense of surprise was genuine or

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Speaker 2: was there any uh oh?

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Speaker 3: As Mike Tomlin entered the room, Yeah, a couple of guys.

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Speaker 11: I talked to said like there was an inking or

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Speaker 11: they maybe had heard rumblings where they thought, could this

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Speaker 11: really be real? But they didn't believe enough that they

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Speaker 11: actually thought he was going to step down, So a

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Speaker 11: lot of them used the word shocked to me. And

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Speaker 11: in the week leading up to this, I had heard

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Speaker 11: some buzz and as a lot of reporters had I

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Speaker 11: think some speculation that perhaps Mike Tomlin could step down,

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Speaker 11: And when I had reached out to people within the

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Speaker 11: staff or players on the team, they basically like buddy,

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Speaker 11: you're wasting your time. Like Mike Tomlin is going to

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Speaker 11: have to be carried out here. There's no way that

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Speaker 11: he's going to step down on his own. And so

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Speaker 11: I think that there was certainly a lot of shock,

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Speaker 11: And I think the biggest thing I hope people take

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Speaker 11: away from the story is that Mike Tomlin, his legacy

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Speaker 11: really lies in his players. His superpower was his ability

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Speaker 11: to connect with people on a deeper level and to

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Speaker 11: get the most out of him.

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Speaker 6: And I think what you saw there was that until his.

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Speaker 11: Very last moment, Mike Tomlin had that locker room and

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Speaker 11: they believed in him, and in some sense, his guys

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Speaker 11: felt like they they let him down because they wanted

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Speaker 11: to play.

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Speaker 6: So hard for him until the very end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously paint the picture of you know,

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. It almost made me wonder if Aaron Rodgers knew.

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Speaker 8: That Mike Tomlin was going to step down if they

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Speaker 8: didn't win that game, or rather that you know, if

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Speaker 8: things didn't go in a better direction for Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 8: there in the postseason, Aaron Rodgers knew that he was

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Speaker 8: done also because he wasn't going to stay with Mike.

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Speaker 8: The I'm sorry that you said that he reportedly was

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Speaker 8: was uttering over and over. Do you think that came

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Speaker 8: with a sense of he knew, you know.

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Speaker 6: I think the.

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Speaker 11: I'm sorry just shows how much he wanted to win

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Speaker 11: for Mike Tomlin. And I think it's really important to

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Speaker 11: note that just because he says he's sorry, Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 11: is not responsible for the last ten years of Mike

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Speaker 11: Tomlin football, and.

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Speaker 6: No one should expect him to.

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Speaker 11: No one was expecting him to come in and be

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Speaker 11: this savior for this team, and largely Aaron Rodgers played

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Speaker 11: better than I think a lot of people would have expected.

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Speaker 11: But still, I think that he had developed such a

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Speaker 11: relationship and a connection with Mike Tomlin in a very

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Speaker 11: short period of time that he did feel badly in

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Speaker 11: some ways. And you know, I think that for Rogers,

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Speaker 11: you know, I know that that moment for some reason

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Speaker 11: has become polarizing.

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Speaker 6: I guess, I'll say, or just some people have criticized

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Speaker 6: me or other is for that moment.

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Speaker 11: I think it's nothing but a positive for Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 11: and I think it should be viewed in that way, like,

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Speaker 11: let's just remember that when he arrived in Pittsburgh. Aaron

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Speaker 11: Rodgers was largely portrayed by the national media as a.

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Speaker 6: Bad teammate and a selfish person.

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Speaker 11: And everything that I've reported about Aaron Rodgers throughout this

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Speaker 11: year has been his ability in willingness to go above

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Speaker 11: and beyond to connect with teammates, to invite them to

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Speaker 11: his place in Malibu, to spend extra time with them

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Speaker 11: at Saint Vincent College, to spend extra time and meeting

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Speaker 11: room with them.

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Speaker 6: And he had developed a very real connection with this team.

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Speaker 11: And so I think that it should be this moment

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Speaker 11: should be viewed as nothing more than Aaron Rodgers, a

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Speaker 11: guy who again was I think misrepresented by the media

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Speaker 11: largely being a very good and bought in and passionate

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Speaker 11: teammate that wanted to win for his head coach and

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Speaker 11: for the rest of the players.

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Speaker 3: On that one of the criticisms came from JJ Watt.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't about you, It was about the players confessing

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Speaker 2: to you what had happened in that locker room. And

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Speaker 2: I think part of that was because of how you

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Speaker 2: described TJ. Watt or how he was described to you,

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Speaker 2: as you know, just uttering no, no, no, over and

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Speaker 2: over again with his eyes welling up with tears. Did

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Speaker 2: you have any concern that this might have the collateral

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Speaker 2: effect of people being a little angry with you for

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Speaker 2: being the window into that scene.

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Speaker 11: Well, you know, I think that sometimes there is the

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Speaker 11: whole notion of like the sanctity of a locker room,

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Speaker 11: and I understand from a team perspective if some players

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Speaker 11: felt like they didn't want everything to get out. But

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Speaker 11: I think that this was an important moment in Pittsburgh Steelers' history,

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Speaker 11: and I think as time goes on, more and more

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Speaker 11: players are going to share what happened Like it wouldn't

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Speaker 11: surprise me if on a lot of these podcasts that

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Speaker 11: players have over time, they're going to start sharing stories

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Speaker 11: and moments and memories from this.

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Speaker 7: So I started Mike Kooniz, did it? Kons, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 11: Seeing that that he that he started saying moments moments

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Speaker 11: from this as well. And I think that the other

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Speaker 11: part of this is JJ was reacting to a screenshot

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Speaker 11: that was out of context, so he took something that

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Speaker 11: was out of context, he interpreted it out of context,

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Speaker 11: and I think that that's why I would encourage him,

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Speaker 11: if he has not done so, to read the article

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Speaker 11: because I think he'll get a very different idea of

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Speaker 11: the motivation behind writing this, and and also just like

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Speaker 11: what was actually going on with with within that, and

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Speaker 11: not to mention the fact that the individual, the radio

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Speaker 11: host who had taken this out of context the days earlier,

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Speaker 11: was peddling a narrative that JJ was happy that Mike Tomlin. So,

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Speaker 11: if anything, in some senses, I think that JJ should

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Speaker 11: be happy that I corrected this information about his brother,

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Speaker 11: who was being portrayed in the Pittsburgh media as happy

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Speaker 11: that Mike Tomlin stepped away, when in reality it seemed

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Speaker 11: to be exactly the opposite.

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Speaker 7: Mike getting back to the everybody thought Tomlin was going

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Speaker 7: to have to get carried out or I was absolutely

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Speaker 7: in that camp like you, I was told that. Do

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Speaker 7: you think part of the shock is when Mike Thomas said, Hey,

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Speaker 7: I didn't do enough for you guys, or however you

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Speaker 7: phrased it. I can't remember it exactly, but you know

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Speaker 7: I wanted to do better for you guys. Is that

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Speaker 7: really the reason or is there a certain mystery about

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Speaker 7: this that is making it hard to accept on the

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Speaker 7: part of the players.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I think that the players interpreted it

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Speaker 11: as the way that you described it right there where

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Speaker 11: Mike Tomins said that he told them or they said

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Speaker 11: that Mike Tomlin told him them that he wanted better

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Speaker 11: for them, And one player described it as he kind

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Speaker 11: of was building us up and taking it all on

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Speaker 11: and saying that he the reason why he wanted to

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Speaker 11: step away is because he cared so much about us

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Speaker 11: and he wanted it to be better for us.

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Speaker 6: So that seemed to resonate with players that they felt

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Speaker 6: like that was genuine for Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 11: And like, one thing that's been cool is there's different

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Speaker 11: leadership styles, Like you can get the best out of

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Speaker 11: somebody by scaring them, like phrazy Bill Belichick, Hey, you

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Speaker 11: better wreck your car if you're going to be late

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Speaker 11: for practice, because I'm going to cut your ass, that

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Speaker 11: kind of thing. But then Mike Tomlin took the opposite

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Speaker 11: coach where guys wanted to run through walls for him.

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Speaker 11: They wanted to do well for him, and that's why

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Speaker 11: I think that they were so disappointed to not get

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Speaker 11: it done.

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Speaker 2: Were the other coaches in attendance, Yeah, yeah they were,

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Speaker 2: And but that wasn't there first finding out about that,

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Speaker 2: like that, had he told the coaches first, Well.

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Speaker 6: My understanding is that's when everybody found out.

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Speaker 11: My understanding is, like around shortly before the team meeting,

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Speaker 11: which took place like around two o'clock, Mike Tomlin walked

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Speaker 11: into Art Rooney's office told him, and then the rest

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Speaker 11: of the team ultimately found out. And assistant coaches kind

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Speaker 11: of are having a different point of view than than

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Speaker 11: players because assistant coaches, most of them are yeah, and

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Speaker 11: right now, you know, I mean, they all are looking

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Speaker 11: for jobs right now. So I think that a lot

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Speaker 11: of them, while they have respect and admiration for Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 11: also aren't completely thrilled by the idea that this guy

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Speaker 11: in a sense fired himself or fired them the facto

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Speaker 11: by stepping off of his job.

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Speaker 2: Mike de Fabo from The Athletic an unbelievably great piece

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Speaker 2: by you. Congratulations buddy and continued success to you. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for making time for us this morning.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, man, thank you guys for that. I got it.

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Speaker 2: I retweeted that out yesterday. He did so with the

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Speaker 2: station account as well. You gotta check that out because

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Speaker 2: it sets the scene like a movie.

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Speaker 3: It's the best stealer story of the year and maybe

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Speaker 8: if you had It's not just walk the Dinosaur, Abby Sean.

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Speaker 2: It was not was, which is, I think is how

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Speaker 2: you were supposed to say the name of that band,

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Speaker 2: Detroit Ensemble tonight and they are paying tribute to the

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Speaker 5: such a great place to see music.

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Speaker 3: It's the best.

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Speaker 2: And he's the longtime musical director of Bob Weir and

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Speaker 2: the Wolf Brothers. So we're going to talk a lot

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Speaker 2: about Bobby and his legacy when we come back with Don.

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