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Speaker 1: Joining me now is a two time Super Bowl champion

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Speaker 1: with the Steelers. Got a great podcast going with Charlie Batch.

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Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to talk to Trey essex Tray. We

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Speaker 1: always talk with you about the O line first, is

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Speaker 1: fun to getting a lot better.

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Speaker 2: That seems the contensus that he's really come on strong.

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Speaker 3: He has, and for him to only be playing essentially

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Speaker 3: his rookie year with him only playing one game last year,

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Speaker 3: I didn't really impress with how much he's improved over

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Speaker 3: this first half of the season.

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Speaker 4: It was a little up and down.

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Speaker 3: I thought he started out actually kind of strong and

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Speaker 3: kind of dipped the second and third and fourth weekend season,

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Speaker 3: but picked it right back up after the bye weekend.

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Speaker 3: He's been playing some really outstanding ball as of Blake.

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Speaker 1: One thing you notice about him, because I always say, Trey,

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Speaker 1: you could tell an old lineman's playing good if you

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Speaker 1: can see it on the network feed, he looks really strong,

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Speaker 1: like he's just overwhelming some people physically.

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Speaker 3: He is, and he's just he has a nasty disposition

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Speaker 3: that he plays with. And that's the first thing you

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Speaker 3: notice what that jumps off film about him. He wants

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Speaker 3: to attack the offender. He punches with both hands. He'll

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Speaker 3: punch you with two hands. And so the thing that

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Speaker 3: I like to, you know, highlight about Austin Lineman for

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Speaker 3: so long, so many people thought we only did one

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Speaker 4: We were either run.

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Speaker 3: Blocking or pass blocking, and it looked the same time.

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Speaker 3: No old lineman got moves too. And that's as a.

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Speaker 4: Vet you get to know that a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: But he's showing moves that vents show already in his

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Speaker 3: second year in the NFL, with him dropping the nose

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Speaker 3: tackle when they put his hands out, getting him over balanced.

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Speaker 3: He's just really showing a depth of knowledge at the

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Speaker 3: position that usually isn't for somebody who's only had nine

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Speaker 1: Now is brodarn Jones at least doing okay? That also

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Speaker 1: seems to be a consensus he's.

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Speaker 3: Getting better, but I was I'm I'm not gonna say critical,

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Speaker 3: but I am a little cautious to heap too much

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Speaker 3: praise on him. There's still a lot of things in

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Speaker 3: his game that has to it better.

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Speaker 4: So and it seems to be mostly mentally based.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a confidence issue because he doesn't display

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Speaker 3: the same nasty position on a consistent basis. You see

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Speaker 3: he gets excited about the game, and you love that

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Speaker 3: that natural joy that he shows for the game. You

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Speaker 3: can build upon that, But there are some weight room

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Speaker 3: issues that he has to get to. He doesn't throw

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Speaker 3: his hands like Troy does. He doesn't have the experience

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Speaker 3: Toy does. But he's been in the league for three years,

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Speaker 3: and whether he has the experience or not, he's going

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Speaker 3: to have to pick it up because that teams are

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Speaker 3: going to see that and have seen it on film

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Speaker 4: Been throwing pressure his way.

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Speaker 3: If there's anybody that needs help right now, and that

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Speaker 3: we have to devote more offensive resources to one side

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Speaker 1: I generally like how the offense is operating trade. The

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Speaker 1: one thing I don't like is I think they abandon

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Speaker 2: Why are they doing that? And who do you think

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Speaker 4: It's not even a.

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Speaker 3: So our offense because we don't utilize the middle field

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Speaker 3: and Aaron feels he needs to get the ball out faster.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of side adjustment that Aaron will

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Speaker 3: I still think Arthur needs to call it more, especially

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Speaker 3: Between Mason, Isaac and Zach. I thought they've been getting

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Speaker 4: What we want to run other than the outside toss.

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Speaker 3: Arthur is well verse than that, and we have done

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Speaker 3: it really well whenever we run it for the most part,

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Speaker 3: especially out of that big personnel package, but we have

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Speaker 2: Would you have got somebody at the deadline? I would have, yeah.

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Speaker 3: It just it seems like the offensive signings they have.

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Speaker 3: don't bring enough VET to keep him on the practice squad.

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Speaker 3: They'll go through the motions and he'll probably be elevated

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Speaker 3: a few games here once he gets up to speed

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Speaker 3: with the playbook. But I mean they they did grab

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Speaker 4: Duggar and that duo back there with him and Ramsey.

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Speaker 3: I saw this past game, even though a lot of

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Speaker 3: coming in on Wednesday and having to play seventy seven

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Speaker 1: Well, you were right about them keeping the coverage is simple,

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Speaker 1: but they really shuffled the deck up front. They gave

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can only do that because we're usually.

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Speaker 3: Doing that at nickel and dime situations. For the most part,

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Speaker 3: We had JPJ and Slave even though he got hurt,

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Trey six.

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Speaker 1: This segment brought to us by eighty four Lumber Dynasty,

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Speaker 1: partner of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, I thought Dugart did good.

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Speaker 1: Would you keep Ramsey at safety now?

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Speaker 2: Period? I know he's gonna play there this week? What

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Speaker 4: No, I keep him there.

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Speaker 3: He seemed What I did not know about his game

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Speaker 3: this leadership he's that he's displaying. He seems to really

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Speaker 3: I think whatever you get a cornerback like that, you

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Speaker 4: Be the move for him.

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Speaker 2: We all love to win over Indy. It was a

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Speaker 2: weird win though, I mean.

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Speaker 1: You can't rely on six takeaways and they only won

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Speaker 3: It was still some things that are lingering that give

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Speaker 4: Up twenty points in that fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: So you want to be able to lean on your

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Speaker 3: Because that's what you're gonna have to do in January

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Speaker 3: That's what we're waiting for, is what we're going to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the defense. I mean the turnovers, it's

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Speaker 1: a slippery slope. If they beat New England that way too.

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Speaker 1: I just hope they can play you know the other stuff,

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Speaker 1: the other you know things, the sacks, etc. On a

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Speaker 1: Chargers game tray? Because they got big problems all those

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Speaker 1: injuries on the offensive line. They've lost three tackles, but

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Speaker 1: they got a good quarterback with Herbert. They can run

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Speaker 4: They play at Jim Harbeck hardball brand of football.

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Speaker 3: And regardless of these injuries, they're still finding a way

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Speaker 3: but they're like a top ten offense, still top ten

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Speaker 3: And obviously Herbert with that receiving court that he has

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Speaker 3: I will say took me gave me confidence about the

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Speaker 4: Stopped the run.

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Speaker 3: They stopped that the best running back in the best

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Speaker 4: And if they can keep that going, if they can.

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Speaker 3: Build upon that, then this defense has has a good future.

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Speaker 4: For the rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: And if they can win this game trade I mean,

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Speaker 1: I thought Baltimore was gonna jump right up their backside.

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Speaker 2: I thought they were gonna come on strong.

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Speaker 1: If they can win at LA and that's a winnable

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Speaker 4: So I agree, I think he needs to be utilized more.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to the Penguins game tonight, how disappointed

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Speaker 2: And what's gained by him not playing? Exactly? What is

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Speaker 1: That's the thing I get the least, because now he's

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Speaker 2: It's college football Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna see, nobody's gonna care in one of that

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Speaker 2: Just very frustrating.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the Penguins muse and Dupus disagree with me.

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Speaker 1: They're wrong. They're stupid for doing this rather not starting

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I do want to reiterate one thing we discussed,

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Speaker 1: which is the Steelers offensive line has really.

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Speaker 2: Come on, no doubt on that. You've got fatan who

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Speaker 1: You got Roderick Jones playing okay, Spencer Anderson's done pretty

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Speaker 2: You don't hear about him at guards, so we must

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Speaker 1: One thing I I you know, we only have trade

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Speaker 2: Jones. Next year's his fourth year.

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Speaker 1: You got to decide whether or not to pick up

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Speaker 2: What do you do?

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Speaker 1: Trey said, he has to earn it, and I get it.

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Speaker 1: But if you trade it up to get him to

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Speaker 1: pick up the fifth on his rookie contract, that's not

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Speaker 1: an indictment of him, that's an indictment of the organization

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Speaker 1: for trading up to get him and then doing so

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Speaker 1: poorly in developing him. By putting a bit right tackle

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Speaker 1: for the first two years, I'm making him a swing

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Speaker 2: So if they cut him, well, don't pick up his

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Speaker 1: Rather, that'll be on the Steelers more than it's on Jones,

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Speaker 1: because really, this is Jones's rookie year at left tackle,

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Speaker 2: Drafted to play to Frank, Frank, you're own with Mark.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Mark, So first off, correct if I'm wrong. It's

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Speaker 10: he's been alternating goalwis one and one since the.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, okay, so.

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Speaker 10: It seems like he's sticking to that, and I guess

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Speaker 10: I did it. But for him, being like a developmental

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, This is what developmental coach would do,

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Speaker 2: But uh, but that it's not the time for normalcy.

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Speaker 1: This is a a number one goaltender prospect.

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Speaker 2: Uh, he's the next star player for the Penguins. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He came up because of injury. So it's a sudden,

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Speaker 1: The Penguins are built on stars and events and this

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Speaker 2: Hey, no risk and no biscuit.

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Speaker 1: It's a mistake not to play him exactly.

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Speaker 10: And now do you think I hate to say this

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Speaker 12: Is News always gonna want to stick.

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Speaker 1: News News won't be the coach when the team's championship contender.

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Speaker 1: He's a developmental coach, and I don't I'm not insulting

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Speaker 1: reason could there possibly be to not.

446
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Speaker 5: I've been racking my brain for about five hours trying

447
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 5: to think of one, and from a business standpoint and

448
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 5: a hockey standpoint, I simply can't think of one. Business wise. Obviously,

449
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 5: it's a bad move. You had a chance on a

450
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 5: national televised game to sell some tickets and to just

451
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Speaker 5: generate some interest from Penguins fans all around the world

452
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 5: who've been clamoring to see this kid for a couple

453
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 5: of years now. And from a hockey standpoint, when you

454
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Speaker 5: look at the next three games, which I assume you'

455
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 5: or Shove will play one of them, Washington has by

456
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Speaker 5: far the least potent offense statistically of those three. And

457
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,200
Speaker 5: in the other two, you play in New Jersey where

458
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,919
Speaker 5: they never ever play well. And then you have a

459
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 5: game on Sunday against La the second night of it,

460
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,640
Speaker 5: back to back, when the Kings will have had three

461
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Speaker 5: days of breast entering that game. This was the most

462
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Speaker 5: comfortable game for him to play, in my opinion, And

463
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Speaker 5: I just I have not yet heard of reason from

464
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Speaker 5: anybody why it makes any sense.

465
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm not dumb enough to think that him

466
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 1: playing tonight would generate a big walk up, because there's

467
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 1: no such thing in sports anymore as a big walk up.

468
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 1: But Derek expecting a good crowd anyway, because the Caps

469
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 1: are playing here. A lot of Taps fans apparently bought

470
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Speaker 1: tickets thinking it might be the OV nine hundred night

471
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Speaker 1: and Caps fans travel well anyway. But if the Ticketmaster

472
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Speaker 1: map is to be believed, Josh, not many tickets available.

473
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Speaker 1: But to me, that's all the more reason to play

474
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Speaker 1: more a shop, give the fans who do come potentially

475
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Speaker 1: a big moment to keep them coming back.

476
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Speaker 5: No, there's no question whenever he makes his debut it'll

477
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 5: be a big deal. But when you'd rather be on

478
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 5: home ice against alex Ovechkin instead of being in Newark

479
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Speaker 5: on a Saturday afternoon, or or back at home during

480
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,719
Speaker 5: an NFL Sunday, like, I think, it's kind of a

481
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 5: no brainer. From a business standpoint, I think that goes

482
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Speaker 5: without saying, Mark, I think maybe the penguin's overthought things

483
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 5: a little bit too much. And I don't know whose

484
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Speaker 5: decision that was. It was Damn Muse or Kyle Dubis

485
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 5: or Andy Kyoto or some combination of the three or

486
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Speaker 5: somebody else. I don't know, but it doesn't make sense.

487
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Speaker 5: And also from your shops, like you know, he's deserving

488
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Speaker 5: of this opportunity. Look at the numbs he's put up.

489
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Speaker 5: This might be Alex Ovechkin's last NHL season, This.

490
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Speaker 2: Could be the last chance.

491
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Speaker 5: For all we know, that he ever gets to play

492
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Speaker 5: against him. I have to think that would have meant

493
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Speaker 5: a lot to him to make his NHL debut against

494
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Speaker 5: the most famous Russian player there's ever been.

495
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it just shows lack of recognizing an occasion. I

496
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 1: will Ben Kendall do on Sid's wing and wide. Does

497
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Speaker 1: it strike you as a good fit?

498
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Speaker 5: It does, simply put and I hate to make comparisons

499
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Speaker 5: to star players already for the eighteen year old kid,

500
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Speaker 5: but he reminds me of Jake Denzil so much just

501
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 5: the way he plays the game from a hockey I

502
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Speaker 5: q standpoint, from the hands that he has. But also

503
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Speaker 5: my favorite thing about Kendall, and nobody really talks about this,

504
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 5: there's a fearlessness to his game, like he will take

505
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Speaker 5: a beating in front of the net, he will go

506
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Speaker 5: to the corners. After Toronto took the lead the other night,

507
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Speaker 5: in a terrible third period for the Penguins, Kendall got

508
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Speaker 5: a shift with the Gunny Malkin and he took the

509
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Speaker 5: puck out wide on the right wing, and he barged

510
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Speaker 5: it a net and almost it was very much at

511
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Speaker 5: Jake Gonzel or Brian Russ looking play. Those are the

512
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Speaker 5: guys Sid wants to play with. He loves people who

513
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Speaker 5: will go down low with him, who will work with him.

514
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Speaker 5: And even though Kendall's not big, I had somebody in

515
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Speaker 5: the organization told me last week that he's hockey strong,

516
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Speaker 5: which I think is a really good way.

517
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Speaker 9: To put it.

518
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Speaker 5: He doesn't get knocked off bucks, he tends to win

519
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 5: a lot of battles down low. Combine that just with

520
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 5: his natural hockey IQ. I could see him and Sid

521
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Speaker 5: being a really good fit. Even though I know the

522
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Speaker 5: Penguins love him at center, I don't blame them for.

523
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Speaker 1: Trying this no, especially given the injury situation and Sid

524
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Speaker 1: really lacking anyone to play with besides Brian Russ Now

525
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Speaker 1: staying with Kindall, should he run the power play on

526
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Speaker 1: that left half wall, be the quarterback?

527
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Speaker 2: Should things go through him? Because I can see it.

528
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Speaker 1: He has more power play acumen than Crosby or Malkin.

529
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Speaker 1: And that seems hard to believe, but you know it's true.

530
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Speaker 5: Oh, I mean, if you're going to long, especially at Sid,

531
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Speaker 5: who's one of the five greatest players who ever lived,

532
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Speaker 5: the power plays been his strength, per se. He still

533
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 5: puts up a lot of numbers on the power play

534
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Speaker 5: because he's so great. I don't think.

535
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Speaker 4: I don't.

536
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Speaker 5: I don't think the game comes naturally to sit. The

537
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Speaker 5: game slows down, and it just naturally slows down on

538
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Speaker 5: the power play, right, So kid.

539
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Speaker 2: But Kendall has that knack.

540
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Speaker 9: Yes, no, he does.

541
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Speaker 5: And I don't know where they should use him moving forward,

542
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Speaker 5: because I'll tell you what. I've seen him playing on

543
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 5: the bumper in practice and he really do it well.

544
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Speaker 5: So that's something to consider. I will say this, no

545
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Speaker 5: matter whether it should go through or him or not,

546
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Speaker 5: I don't know if he's ready for that, but I

547
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 5: do think even when this team's completely healthy, that he

548
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 5: should be somewhere on the top power play unit. And

549
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Speaker 5: if that means taking Malkin off, that's okay. I would

550
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Speaker 5: compare it to what Washington did years ago when they

551
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Speaker 5: had Nick Baxtrom on the right wing wall and he

552
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 5: had one timers with Ovechkin and Oshi and John Carlson

553
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 5: all right handed shots. Now the Penguins could have that

554
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 5: when you've got Carlson and Raquel and Rust and kinda

555
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 5: wall health. That could be a really interesting look on

556
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Speaker 5: the power play and one for them to consider. He's

557
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Speaker 5: just a total natural Mark. I mean everything he does

558
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 5: in the offensive zone, especially, but also defensively, but now

559
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 5: everything he does the game just he processes information at

560
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 5: a much higher level than almost any teenager I've ever watched.

561
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Speaker 2: It's a soccer backer on Josh. He has that football vision.

562
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Speaker 1: Is it good or bad that Heinen's back because he's recycled.

563
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: He's starting, but he was ripping it up at Wilkes

564
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Speaker 1: And he's kind of learned to play center late in

565
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: his career, hasn't he It's fine.

566
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Speaker 5: He's not a terrible NHL player. He's the kind of

567
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 5: guy that will drive you nuts if you watch him

568
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 5: for eighty two games because he's just so low intensity

569
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 5: that it can be painful. But he has some scoring touch.

570
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 5: He's never really going to hurt you. I think for

571
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 5: a rebuilding team, you don't want him out there eighty

572
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 5: two nights a year, But if you need him to

573
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Speaker 5: come up for a month when people are banged up,

574
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Speaker 5: he's actually a nice guy to have around. This is

575
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Speaker 5: a guy who can know he's scored fifteen to twenty

576
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Speaker 5: in the NHL. He's not a bad hockey player, and

577
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Speaker 5: I'll give him credit, and I'll say the same thing

578
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 5: for Ryan Graves Mark on this level. On those two

579
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 5: guys could have gone to wilkes Bury and pouted and

580
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 5: been down in the dumpson and they didn't. By all accounts,

581
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 5: They've worked hard and especially in the case of Heine,

582
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Speaker 5: and played really well. So I have no problem with

583
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Speaker 5: him being rewarded. And as a short term guy, you

584
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 5: need people like that in the organization who are decent

585
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 5: NHL players who can fill in from time to time,

586
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 5: because the Penguins, as we all know, are really dealing

587
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 5: with a rash of injuries right now, which is very

588
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 5: unfortunate given how well they've been playing.

589
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Speaker 1: We're talking to Josh Elwey of the Athletic here on

590
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Speaker 1: the Mark Madden Show. Yeah, I'm not displeased to see

591
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Speaker 1: Graves back. For one thing, it's not too hard to

592
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Speaker 1: get in the lineup on the left side of that

593
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: Penguins defense, and they got guys hurt there. Second off,

594
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Speaker 1: I think muse a system which is more systematic and

595
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Speaker 1: doesn't require Ryan Graves to try to play the same

596
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Speaker 1: way as Chris Latang. I think he might do better

597
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: in this set up, although to be fair, it was

598
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: the same setup as in the preseason and he got cuts.

599
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, he didn't look great in the preseason, but yeah,

600
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 5: we'll see. The fact is, I think, especially with defenceman,

601
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 5: coaching changes can be a really big deal for them.

602
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 5: I'm not comparing Eric Carlson with Ryan Graves, but Eric

604
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 5: Carlson too, was a big disappointment his first two seasons

605
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 5: in Pittsburgh. He's been way better this season, and obviously

606
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Speaker 5: I think the new coaching regime has something to do

607
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Speaker 5: with that. And in Graves case, like as awful as

608
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Speaker 5: he was last season, I thought he was marginally better

609
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Speaker 5: last year than he was the year before when he

610
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 5: was a complete disaster.

611
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Speaker 9: We'll see.

612
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 5: He's going to have his minutes sheltered. Whenever he does play,

613
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Speaker 5: He's not going to be out there twenty two minutes

614
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 5: to night. He might not kill them in a third

615
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 5: pairing role, and that's all you can ask for right now.

616
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 9: But we'll see.

617
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 5: I give him credit. I think his attitude throughout all

618
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 5: of this has been really good. And yes, I know

619
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Speaker 5: he's still getting paid, so I know there's some people

620
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 5: say he's a millionaire. I'm not going to feel bad

621
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 5: for him, but it's not easy going back to the

622
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 5: minor leagues. When you've been in the NHL for years,

623
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 5: a lot of guys would just pout and collect their paycheck.

624
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Speaker 5: But I don't think he's one of those guys.

625
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Speaker 1: Ov got goal number nine hundred last night. He only

626
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: has three this season. I think he might be about done.

627
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: But I wish he'd have got the goal tonight. I

628
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: respect Ovie and it's fun to see stuff like that.

629
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Speaker 1: Although the goal was kind of a typical because it

630
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: was that checks hockey backhand to spin, a rama type thing.

631
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 5: It was kind of a thinking man's goal, which isn't

632
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 5: a knock on Obie, but that's just not what we

633
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 5: think of when we think of him scoring goals. You know,

634
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 5: the goal that's set the record last spring was the

635
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 5: classic Obie goal, the one timer from the left circle,

636
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 5: which is probably where he scored I'm sure more than

637
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 5: half of his goals in his career. But no, I

638
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 5: agree with you. I think anytime you get a chance

639
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 5: to see history, whether it's a rival or not, or

640
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 5: somebody you like or not. They play eighty two games

641
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 5: a year, that's a lot. Sometimes you need something to

642
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 5: entice you a little bit, and something like that would

643
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 5: have been cool. And I do think things have thought

644
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 5: between the Penguins and Capitals over the years. The Penguins

645
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 5: fans actually gave Obi a very lengthy standing ovation when

646
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 5: Washington was in town right after he broke the record

647
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 5: the last game.

648
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 4: Of the season last year.

649
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 5: That was actually a pretty cool moment. And Mark, there's

650
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 5: no garan.

651
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Speaker 2: I think he'll get the same tonight.

652
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 5: He might and there's no guarantee he'll be back after

653
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 5: this season. A lot of people that I know in

654
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 5: Washington think this is probably his last season. So that

655
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 5: means if you're a Penguins fan, you probably only have

656
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 5: two more chances to see Crosby and ovech Get and

657
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 5: Malkin all the same sheet of ice together. That's a

658
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 5: pretty big deal.

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Speaker 1: How about Tonight's the ninety ninth meeting of Crosby and Ovechkin.

660
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Speaker 2: I kind of feel like they should fight.

661
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Speaker 5: I actually said that to Sit in the locker room yesterday,

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Speaker 5: and he looked at me without smiling, and he said,

663
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Speaker 5: how do you know we won't? And I finally broke

664
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Speaker 5: a smile myself because he was just being funny to

665
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Speaker 5: Speaking of thought, things have certainly thought between those two.

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Speaker 5: But I have always said Mark that when those two

667
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Speaker 5: were on the same sheet of ice. Sure it was

668
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Speaker 5: like that in the Boston Garden when Bird and Magic

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Speaker 5: played each other. These are two of the players of

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Speaker 5: all time who have been going at it for twenty

671
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Speaker 5: years and countless memorable moments for classic playoff series. All

672
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Speaker 5: four of them were No, if you're a hockey fan,

673
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Speaker 5: you have to appreciate seeing these two together for however

674
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Speaker 5: many more years it will be. And like I said,

675
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Speaker 5: I know a lot of people in Washington who who

676
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Speaker 5: really think this might be Obuchtions last year, and we

677
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Speaker 5: know there's could be Malklins as well. So there's only

678
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Speaker 5: so many of these memories left.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And whenever you hear Ov talk now, does he

680
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Speaker 1: look a bit worn out when he plays? I mean,

681
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Speaker 1: not bad, but just like you know forty, But he

682
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Speaker 1: also sounds a bit worn out when he talks, even

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Speaker 1: after he scored goal number nine hundred last night. I

684
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Speaker 1: never had much dot sid would not last Ov, But

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Speaker 1: now I think we're seeing that come to pass.

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Speaker 2: Where the ping was at right now.

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Speaker 1: Josh, because I'm sure you've looked at the Eastern Conference standings.

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Speaker 1: How about only six points separate first from sixteen in

689
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Speaker 1: the conference standings, FLD is in last place at six

690
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Speaker 1: six and one. No team has more regulation losses than

691
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Speaker 1: it does wins, which A is crazy the standings being

692
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Speaker 1: packed that tight, and B shows how screwy the loser

693
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Speaker 1: point really is.

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Speaker 5: It seems like every time I look at the scores

695
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Speaker 5: around the league, every single one is a three point game.

696
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Speaker 5: They have to be on a record chattering pace for

697
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Speaker 5: overtime games, which I don't really know is a good thing.

698
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Speaker 5: Maybe it is, maybe it is, and I don't know.

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Speaker 5: We always say in the Eastern Conference stinks. It's easy

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Speaker 5: to say that, but really I would say the conference

701
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Speaker 5: doesn't have a dominant team. I don't know that any

702
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 5: of the teams in the East are really terrible. Some

703
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Speaker 5: might be better than others, but it's never been this close.

704
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Speaker 5: And as for the Penguins, hey, it's been a great start,

705
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Speaker 5: but they're in the middle of a really tough stretch

706
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Speaker 5: mark They've lost two in a row, and they are

707
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Speaker 5: playing against a very good Capitals team tonight, and then

708
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Speaker 5: this weekend two teams in the and Kings who historically

709
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 5: give them a lot of problems. I don't want to

710
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Speaker 5: say it's danger time for the Penguins. If you're thinking

711
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Speaker 5: about them, you know, staying in playoff position or that

712
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Speaker 5: kind of thing. But you might want to get three

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Speaker 5: out of six points in those three games if you're

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Speaker 5: the Penguins, because then you don't play again for five

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Speaker 5: days until you play in Sweden. So I think these

716
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Speaker 5: are really important games. And I think Tonight' says because listen,

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Speaker 5: they let two points get away in Toronto with their

718
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Speaker 5: worst period of the season. You don't want to let

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Speaker 5: that linger. I think it's a sign of a good

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Speaker 5: team if you've come right back and beat one of

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Speaker 5: your arrivals. So I actually think this is the biggest

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Speaker 5: game of the young season so far.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the Penguins like some of the decisions

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Speaker 1: like sticking with the goalie rotation and calling up Pinen

726
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Speaker 1: instead of a Tristan braz Is because they're enamored with

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Speaker 1: that eight four and two start and want to prop it.

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Speaker 5: Up maybe a little bit. I understand the goalie rotation

729
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Speaker 5: thing because both goalies have been good, but you can't

730
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Speaker 5: keep doing that. Ever, it's okay to change things up

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Speaker 5: a little bit. I suspect you know that they've been

732
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Speaker 5: doing it because it's working. If it's if it ain't broke,

733
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Speaker 5: don't fix it, right. I think that's been the mindset,

734
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Speaker 5: and that's fine. They're kind of playing it safe, and

735
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Speaker 5: I don't mind the hiding thing because it's for a

736
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Speaker 5: week or two. That's what veterans. I know, everyone wants

737
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Speaker 5: to see all the younger I understand if you're the

738
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Speaker 5: Penguin's not bringing all the young guys having seven rookies

739
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Speaker 5: on the ice at once, I understand that you could

740
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Speaker 5: kind of do it bit by bit. But sure, I

741
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 5: think they're a little surprised by what the record is

742
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Speaker 5: right now, quite honestly, and sometimes that can impact well.

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Speaker 1: That game was weird because the first two periods they

744
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Speaker 1: totally dominated, and while you hate blowing that game, you've

745
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Speaker 1: got to take away something good from those first two

746
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Speaker 1: periods as well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, after the game, somebody has Tom Musough

748
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Speaker 5: you don't want to remember this game anymore, and he

749
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Speaker 5: basically corrected corrected with him and said, no, we can

750
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Speaker 5: take a lot away from this game, and he referenced

751
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Speaker 5: the second period in particular, which, in the words of

752
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Speaker 5: Brian Russ, I don't think Toronto had the puck the

753
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 5: whole period like he might be right. That was flawless,

754
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 5: clinical hockey. That was the best period I've seen the

755
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 5: Penguins play in probably two or three years at least.

756
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 5: It was unbelievable how dominant they were. Hockey is a

757
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 5: funny game. You can't always maintain that level of play,

758
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Speaker 5: and in the Penguins case, they really fell apart in

759
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 5: a bad time in Toronto, because boy, that would have

760
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Speaker 5: been some kind of a nice win for them. Let's

761
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Speaker 5: see how they respond. I think we'll learn a lot

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Speaker 5: about the overall depth that this team has with the injuries,

763
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Speaker 5: and also just the mental toughness that it has, because

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Speaker 5: I think the Capitol is like they haven't been playing great, right.

765
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Speaker 5: Ohbi got his big goal last night, second night of

766
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Speaker 5: a back to back. They won six to one last night.

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Speaker 5: Seemed like this is a pretty good time to catch

768
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Speaker 5: the Capitals. I don't think you're gonna get a.

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Speaker 2: Pretty good time to play.

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Speaker 1: Morrishoff too, and Josh, I'm really pissed, as you know,

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Speaker 1: we talked earlier today. I mean I'm really pissed. And

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Speaker 1: part of it is I don't think the GM and

773
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: coach understand what this team's built on and understand this market.

774
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: And I think hockey in general has long since forgotten.

775
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: It's in the entertainment business.

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Speaker 5: That's a really good way to put it. It's kind

777
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 5: of tone deaf more than anything to me.

778
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Speaker 1: And it's just as there are debates like the Steelers

779
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: getting what's his name, Jacoby Meyers the receiver that Jacksonville got. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I don't care, b there's two sides of that story.

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00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: There's not two sides this story. I am one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent right.

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Speaker 9: No, you are.

784
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Speaker 5: And listen, the Penguins as we've known them since nineteen

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Speaker 5: eighty four. If it all about star power, that that's

786
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 5: just what this franchise is, Okay, And in Miroshav, I've

787
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 5: had enough people in the organization tell me they think

788
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 5: this might be a star. So when he gets recalled

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Speaker 5: and he gets a practice the day before and you're

790
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 5: playing Obie on national television in Pittsburgh, like, come on,

791
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 5: it's too easy of a script to pass up. I

792
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 5: can't believe he's not starting tonight.

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Speaker 2: I'm so mad, Josh, I might drink before I go

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Speaker 2: to the game. We'll see you down there.

795
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Speaker 5: Oh, I'll drive you home if necessary.

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Speaker 9: It's fine.

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Speaker 1: That's Josh hooey. Now, It's time to ask Mark Anything.

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Speaker 8: They're gonna nail us no matter what we do, so

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Speaker 1: as Mark anything too, because the list is.

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Speaker 2: Really short, and you'll see why.

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Speaker 1: six till six thirty, so I can rage mindlessly about

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Speaker 1: how pissed I am about morishof not playing for thirty

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Speaker 1: minutes more. You know, the people who think this is

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Speaker 1: no big deal. All they want to talk about is

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. If you're a penguinsman, this should be a

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Speaker 1: big deal. Let's go to Joe in Ocean City. Joe,

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Speaker 1: you're on with double M.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Mark, Today is Pat Tillman's birthday. Okay, And for

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Speaker 9: years I've always wondered, I don't know if I've ever

839
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Speaker 9: heard you really sneak on him. I mean I might

840
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Speaker 9: have missed it or something like that. I was just

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Speaker 9: always curious of how you felt about, you know, what

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Speaker 9: he did leaving the league and going.

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Speaker 1: And then from what I've read, and I've read extensively

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Speaker 1: on it, by the way, I don't think Pat left, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there any obligation to serve his country. I think Pat

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Speaker 1: wanted to test himself in war. Isn't that the impression

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Speaker 1: you got from everything you've read?

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Speaker 9: From what I saw was the interview about his grandson

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Speaker 9: the day after nine to eleven, was the interview he

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Speaker 9: did or he spoke of his grandfather in World War two,

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Speaker 9: and he said they kind of put him in check

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Speaker 9: and he had felt like he hadn't really accomplished anything,

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Speaker 9: and he did want to test his medals. So yeah,

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Speaker 9: I do kind of I agree with you on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really fair enough.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I give the guy credit for walking away

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Speaker 1: from millions to prove himself to himself. You know, whether

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Speaker 1: it makes him a national hero, a Medal of honor winner,

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Speaker 1: whether it makes him any more noble than anybody who

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Speaker 1: died in combat, I don't know about that. But I

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Speaker 1: give the guy credit. He's a man.

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Speaker 9: Have you heard the cover up. I mean, have you

863
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Speaker 9: read it into the cover up and everything?

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Speaker 1: Well, he was supposedly killed by friendly fire. That's the case, right, No.

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Speaker 9: Oh, well it was killed by fly fire, but it

866
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Speaker 9: was there was a lot more too. It's a I

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Speaker 9: recommend me digging. I mean, I made other story in

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Speaker 9: sports thoughts, you know what I mean, dig into It's

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Speaker 9: a pretty crazy story when when now that you know,

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Speaker 9: years have passed, when his mother went through, you know,

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Speaker 9: dealing with the government and everything. I mean, it's it

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Speaker 9: turned out to be a pretty insane cover up, a

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Speaker 9: pretty disgusting story.

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Speaker 2: Story has always started off. But I appreciate the call

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Speaker 2: and I will for sure check it out. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Mike. Mike ask Mark anything?

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Speaker 11: Hey, Mark? Yeah, about your chef. I mean, I'm disappointed

878
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Speaker 11: as well. You were saying about uh us Naught's kind

879
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Speaker 11: of knowing the situation, and I agree with that there.

880
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 11: But whenever he started the season with Crosby Malkin kindle

881
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Speaker 11: with tang In Brunick, I thought that was pretty neat

882
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Speaker 11: and I am surprised that he didn't do something similar.

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Speaker 12: Here with from yourself.

884
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Speaker 2: Well, the eight four and two start has them hypnotized.

885
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Speaker 1: Being tied for second overall in the Eastern Conference has

886
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Speaker 1: them hypnotized. They don't get that it's fool's goal very likely,

887
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Speaker 1: and they want to prop it up as long as

888
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Speaker 1: they can by way of sustaining interest. But if you

889
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Speaker 1: want to sustain interest, you want to create hype. Play

890
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Speaker 1: this kid tonight, but it ain't gonna happen.

891
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,959
Speaker 11: Yeah, I agree. I don't know if it's perhaps maybe

892
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Speaker 11: like the rotation that they.

893
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Speaker 2: Have, or I don't know, they want ro.

894
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Speaker 1: It's shilovs his turn. It's mused, good term, it's mused

895
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: being tone death. Let's go to a talkback.

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Speaker 14: If Muse is a transitional style coach, what type of

897
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Speaker 14: coach do you think would be the type that will

898
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Speaker 14: get them to the next cup. Would it be an

899
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Speaker 14: authoritarian or some other type of personality.

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Speaker 1: I never said he was a transitional coach. I said

901
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Speaker 1: he was a developmental coach. They'll get I can't name

902
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Speaker 1: a name. I don't think it'll be an authoritarian because

903
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: really those guys don't exist or prosper in any sport.

904
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Speaker 2: Now.

905
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Speaker 1: I think it'll be more of a tactical coach. At

906
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Speaker 1: that point, let's go to a talk.

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Speaker 2: Back, Hey Mark.

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Speaker 1: If Mrshov plays incredibly well, do you think the Penguins

909
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Speaker 1: a look at trying to trade Tristan Jarry to keep

910
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Speaker 1: Mrshov in Pittsburgh. I don't know that's a good question.

911
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Speaker 1: I think they'd love to trade Jarry. I'm not sure

912
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Speaker 1: that's predicated on Morrishof's development. Let's say Morrishof wasn't playing

913
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Speaker 1: great in Wilkes and Tristan Jarry was playing well enough

914
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: to trade I think they trade him just to get

915
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Speaker 1: that contract off the books, and you know, to stick

916
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Speaker 1: with what was the plan of keeping Morishof and Wilkes

917
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Speaker 1: our year. Maybe you'd call up Philip Larson or Joel Blumquist,

918
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Speaker 1: who his hurt. But boy, he's a bum. So I

919
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Speaker 1: don't know exactly what the intent in goal is. But

920
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Speaker 1: they'd love to trade Jarry. They would for sure love

921
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: to trade Jarry. Let's go to Graham. Graham, ask Mark anything.

922
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Speaker 12: Hey Mark, I think the biggest disappointment tonight is that

923
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Speaker 12: if they go with the rotation, Mirosov will start in

924
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Speaker 12: New Jersey and then they play a home game and

925
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Speaker 12: then they go to Sweden. So you might not see

926
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Speaker 12: Mirasov at home for a good bit if they stick

927
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Speaker 12: with that rotation.

928
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just stupid. I can't describe how stupid this is.

929
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Speaker 1: Thank you for the cor Let's go to Cosmo. Cosmo,

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Speaker 1: you're on with double M.

931
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Speaker 5: Mark.

932
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Speaker 15: Who will have a more electric trade deadline? The twenty

933
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 15: twenty five Pittsburgh Steelers or the twenty twenty six Pittsburgh Pirates.

934
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Speaker 1: I don't know. The Steelers didn't trade for Skiings, did they.

935
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Speaker 9: Good?

936
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Speaker 2: Try good good? No, they didn't.

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Speaker 1: It could have could be a little in through the

938
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Speaker 1: outdoor action. I feel you. That's pretty funny. Let's go

939
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Speaker 1: to a talkback.

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Speaker 9: Mark.

941
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Speaker 2: How many more games does TJ.

942
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Speaker 1: Watt have to perform like you did against the Colts

943
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Speaker 1: to have earned his contract? I think he needs to

944
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Speaker 1: make impact on every game he plays to truly earn

945
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Speaker 1: that contract, not major like he did against Indy. But

946
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Speaker 1: that's the only time he's made major impact all year?

947
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Speaker 1: Am I right? I think so? He's been pretty good

948
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Speaker 1: in two other games. So let's say in three out

949
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Speaker 1: of eight games he's made impact.

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Speaker 2: That's not enough.

951
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Speaker 1: And I don't care about the double teams and the chips.

952
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Speaker 1: You make the most, you do the most that one color.

953
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Speaker 1: But up a good point that if Shiloffs plays at

954
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Speaker 1: home tonight and Sunday and then they go to Sweden,

955
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Speaker 1: who knows when Pittsburgh fans are going to see morishoff.

956
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Speaker 2: It's just what they did is dumb. It's dumb.

957
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Speaker 1: It shows no sense of the occasion and no understanding

958
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Speaker 1: of what this franchise is. As good as Kyle is

959
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Speaker 1: at his job, he doesn't get this market and what

960
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Speaker 1: this team really is.

961
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Speaker 2: And the same obviously goes for the coach five ninety X.

962
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Speaker 7: Now it's your chance to win one thousand dollars. Just

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Speaker 7: enter