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Speaker 3: Last night Austin, we took the kiddos to Went and

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Speaker 3: Woods to take in like some holiday festivities and afterwards

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Speaker 3: kind of chili it was windy last night. Man, I

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Speaker 3: need something to warm us up and get the Skyline chili.

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Speaker 3: Walker's favorite food is mac and cheese, and so normally, right,

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Speaker 3: normally when we go to Skyline, we're like getting him

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Speaker 3: a cheese coning. Then we cut up the hot dog

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Speaker 3: and he likes the chili. Last night, I see this.

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Speaker 3: for the little man here? He devoured it, devoured it.

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Speaker 3: You want to talk about creamy, it's fantastic, fantastic. So

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Speaker 3: thanks to Skyline Chili for that and for making a

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Speaker 3: perfect night cap to our night last night as well.

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Speaker 3: We've got a busy, busy three hours ahead of us here.

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Speaker 3: We've got guests throughout. Zach Taylor isn't a guest, but

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Speaker 3: he speaks today, so we'll carry that audio. At one o'clock,

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Speaker 3: we'll hear what Zach Taylor has to say. Going into

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Speaker 3: I know the Bengals sign Xavier Johnson, former Ohio state

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Speaker 3: Maybe he could put some fans in the stands Zach

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Speaker 3: Taylor at one o'clock. Jeff Carr locked on Red's We'll

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Speaker 3: join us at two o'clock. We're gonna spend a lot

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Speaker 3: of time today talking about what Ken Rosenthal reported on

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Speaker 3: with the Reds free agency plan. Now that they've missed

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Speaker 3: on Kyle Schwarber, it's going to be a topic of

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Speaker 3: conversation all throughout the afternoon. I'm sure we'll take some

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Speaker 3: phone calls along the way. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty. On that happy birthday, Joe Burrow, Joey Bee's

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Speaker 3: birthday is today. James Rapene wrote an article talked about

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Speaker 3: the clock is ticking. It's an inevitable truth when it

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Speaker 3: comes to Joe Burrow, the clock is ticking. We'll discuss

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Speaker 3: that this afternoon. The old line improvement. You asked the

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Speaker 3: expand on it a little bit. Just how well this

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Speaker 3: offensive line has played and in a season filled with

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Speaker 3: positive for both now and the foundation being said for

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Speaker 3: the future, the Bengals offensive line is one of those things.

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Speaker 3: We'll spend some time on that today. Also, we'll look

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Speaker 3: back to the Ravens win from a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: and look ahead to what the Bengals will have to

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Speaker 3: do in order to beat the Ravens this week. Mock

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Speaker 3: drafts are happening across the NFL. Are we ready for

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Speaker 3: mock drafts yet, Austin Or do you need to be

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent out of playoff contention before you'll even

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Speaker 3: look at a mock draft.

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Speaker 2: I'll look at a mock draft, you know, at all times,

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Speaker 2: just because I want to familiarize myself with some of

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Speaker 2: They're a fun time killer. They're a fun conversation starter.

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Speaker 2: Field Yates threw one out there today. Unfortunately, you know

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Speaker 2: it has the Rams at number nine taking Caleb Downs.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't that just be a kick in the groin? And

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Speaker 2: then it has the Bengals, according to field Yates, going

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Speaker 2: for Ruben Bain Junior, the edge rusher out of Miami. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he says, does field Yates, Hendrickson and Osi are scheduled

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Speaker 3: Ruben Bain Junior latest mock draft already for the Cincinnati Bengals. Hey,

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Speaker 3: congratulations to the White Sox Austin. Do you hear what

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Speaker 3: They won the the draft lottery. I didn't even know

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Speaker 2: The Chicago White Sox have won the draft lottery. The

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Speaker 2: Reds are number eighteen oh in the opening round of

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Speaker 2: the upcoming twenty twenty six Major League Baseball Draft. Oh.

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Speaker 2: I believe the Rule five draft is happening today. OH.

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Speaker 2: And the expectation is that the Reds will be active

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Speaker 2: It is also the final day of Winter meetings. Could

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Speaker 2: there be another blockbuster on the horizon. Well, there are

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Speaker 2: to trade for one Cotel Marte of the Arizona Diamondbacks.

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Speaker 2: Don't know, you know what that would look like, but

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Speaker 3: Uh, we're gonna do QB tiers today because we didn't

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Speaker 2: I saw a headline about the Knicks. Oh, it said,

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Speaker 2: shout out to Asia Wilson, by the way, AP Female

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Speaker 2: Athlete of the Year and on the cover of Time magazine.

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Speaker 3: I read a story. I know she's dating Bam out

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Speaker 2: You learn a thing or two. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine you're Asia Wilson. You practice one on

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Speaker 3: in the show today Austin, last night was the start

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Speaker 3: of V Week. If you're not familiar, V Week circles

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Speaker 3: around the Jimmy V Foundation, jim Valvano. Jimmy V Week

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Speaker 3: It started on December second and runs through officially December fourteenth.

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Speaker 3: But last night in college basketball was the start of

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Speaker 3: So there were two games played at Madison Square Garden

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Speaker 3: So when I was growing up Austin, for as long

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Speaker 3: not not because I'm urging people to donate to the foundation,

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Speaker 3: of good ones. Last night, Number ten rated BYU was

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Speaker 3: I'll say it again, forty three to twenty two at halftime.

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Speaker 3: Last night, BYU outscores Clemson forty five to twenty one,

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Speaker 3: including a Robert right the third three pointer as time

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Speaker 3: It was absolute madness. AJ Debansta scored twenty two of

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Speaker 3: being referred to Austin as this generation's Tracy McGrady. Oh

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you McGrady was in attendance last night. If

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Speaker 3: BYU wins. They beat Clemson, and then in a nightcap,

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Speaker 3: it was the defending champions, the Florida Gators, against a

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Speaker 3: the Yukon Huskies, And it was Yukon getting the better

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Speaker 3: Michigan has now beat six opponents in a row by

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Speaker 3: twenty five or more points. They dominated Villanova last night

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Speaker 2: Not a lot of people there in Columbus last night, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Now, as far as the football in the Natti part

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Speaker 2: Now, can Xavier Johnson help this team? Probably not know? Okay,

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Speaker 2: Now you know that's a guy we haven't given enough

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Speaker 2: and transparent about it, which is what's amazing to me. Now,

432
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Speaker 2: the Reds aren't the ones who came out and said

433
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Speaker 2: we're not gonna go after anybody else. That was a

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Speaker 2: report from Ken Rosenthal, but somehow he had to get

435
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Speaker 2: that information. Someone told him that. But they've also openly

436
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: said we want to eliminate peaks and valleys. We're trying

437
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Speaker 2: to break even where else you're gonna go. That is open.

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Speaker 2: They have been very open and transparent about their plan,

439
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Speaker 2: and it is insulting. I feel insulted as a Reds

440
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Speaker 2: fan that the only way they would consider trying to

441
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Speaker 2: make a splash and free agency is if it's a

442
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: guy who is from here as opposed to a guy

443
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Speaker 2: who can help you win baseball games. It go to

444
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: show that the priority list for the Reds is revenue

445
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: is first, winning baseball games is second. Yeah, they have

446
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Speaker 2: the ability, and there are avenues within the way that

447
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: the ownership is structured and the way that the financial

448
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 2: product can be a like all of it, there are avenues.

449
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Speaker 2: The Reds do not go down them. It's an issue

450
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Speaker 2: and if they're not gonna make a run and a

451
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Speaker 2: guy right now like Kyle Schwarber. And when you really

452
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Speaker 2: look at it, I had been saying that the Reds

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Speaker 2: deserve credit for taking a swing. I don't know that

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Speaker 2: they deserve all that much credit because even the Pirates

455
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: offered him thirty million dollars a year, the Reds didn't

456
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Speaker 2: do that, which is hard to believe. And who knows

457
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Speaker 2: what the incentives were. But to to just continue this

458
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: down this path of we're gonna draft and develop and

459
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Speaker 2: play small ball and this that and the other, well, listen, man,

460
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Speaker 2: they're not gonna play baseball next summer or this summer.

461
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 2: They will next summer they will not. And after that

462
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 2: the Reds will cry pour again because nobody came to

463
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: the games and they won't ask for money from their

464
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Speaker 2: other investors. And so we'll go through this vicious cycle

465
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 2: and then Ellie de la Cruz is out the door

466
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Speaker 2: in twenty nine. They have a club option for Hunter

467
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Speaker 2: Green then too, and we'll just restart this whole thing

468
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Speaker 2: over and over again. So can I just ask a

469
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Speaker 2: dumb question? So if not now, then win? Can I

470
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Speaker 2: just add my question a dumb question?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 3: Do they not understand that winning games will lead to

473
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Speaker 3: more revenue.

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Speaker 2: They don't care about winning games.

475
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Speaker 3: But they want revenue. They want fans in the stands,

476
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Speaker 3: their revenue winning games does that.

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Speaker 2: We've seen that, Like we've seen they think, I would

478
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Speaker 2: imagine their thought process is it costs more and it's

479
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: a bigger risk to go and sign players than it

480
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Speaker 2: is to put together a ticket package or a bibblehead

481
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 2: night or trot out some big red machine guys. That's

482
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: a low risk, cheap alternative to get butts in the

483
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: seats as opposed to a five or six year contract

484
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 2: with the player who could get hurt or could you know,

485
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: not perform or whatever reason regardless of winning.

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Speaker 3: Well, add more to their pocket And I get your

487
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 3: sense of it too. But like we've seen instances in

488
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Speaker 3: the past couple of years Austin, when they've just teased

489
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 3: five hundred, when they've teased getting into the wild card race,

490
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 3: the stadium is rocking. Was it two years ago that

491
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Speaker 3: Tiger series where the Tigers eventually swept them? And I

492
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: remember going down to that series and thinking, holy cow,

493
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: this stadium is alive and all three they got swept

494
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Speaker 3: by the Tigers. But that was just them teasing being competitive.

495
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Speaker 3: We saw last year at times when this team went

496
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Speaker 3: on a little bit of a run and they got

497
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Speaker 3: in the conversation. The atmosphere was a electric at Great

498
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Speaker 3: American Ballpark. I get revenue, revenue, revenue, revenue. Just win

499
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Speaker 3: games and the revenue is gonna come. It's so backwards

500
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Speaker 3: in a way of thinking, and.

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Speaker 2: I think you're missing the point though. The point is

502
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: if we can go if we can try to build

503
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: a team as cheap as possible through draft and developing,

504
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: and but they can't build that low level free agents again,

505
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 2: put your put yourself in their shoes. If we can

506
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: do that and actually win some games, more people will

507
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 2: come and we don't have to have the significant financial

508
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,479
Speaker 2: investment in someone else that It's never about the pursuit

509
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: of a champion. It hasn't been about the pursuit of

510
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: a chance. It never will be for years. It never

511
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: will be. It might be maybe one day when other

512
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: people are no longer in charge, but right now it's.

513
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Speaker 3: Not just just and as a as a lifelong Reds fan,

514
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: it's maddening. Sure, it's frustrating because you know what it

515
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 3: could be, let's say.

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Speaker 2: And it sucks too, because there are some really good

517
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: people in that organization and people that I think are

518
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: smart if they want to win and are trying like hell,

519
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: and they do incredible things in the in the community,

520
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: and we have a great relationship with a lot of

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Speaker 2: people down there. But at the end of the day,

522
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Speaker 2: winning is not the priority, and that's all fans really

523
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Speaker 2: care about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like, what is the backing Austin if they say, well, Red,

525
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: we just missed on Kyle Schwarber, but we're going to

526
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Speaker 3: go after another one.

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Speaker 2: And I think we've already started to see some of

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Speaker 2: the you know, pr trying to come in and save

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Speaker 2: themselves by oh now they're interested in Catel Marte. Are

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Speaker 2: they really or did they make the next a weak

531
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Speaker 2: ass all for the Diamondbacks and leak it and say,

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Speaker 2: I'll see we're still trying. Because when you're not doing

533
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: everything in your power to win, you no longer get

534
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt. No one believes that you're

535
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: actually actively trying to get better. You're on record for

536
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: saying you've got five to ten million dollars in payroll

537
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: left to go. Yep, so we know you're not really trying.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a break.

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Speaker 2: That'd be good, that'd be fun. We need more podcasts,

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Speaker 2: you know. Uh?

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00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: Did you see the Philip Rivers start of his press

561
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Speaker 3: conference today?

562
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Speaker 2: I did, Yeah, How good was that?

563
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Speaker 9: Like?

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Speaker 2: Wow, no, zoom, he's a The last.

565
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 3: Time Philip Rivers was around, I've never there were zoom

566
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Speaker 3: calls for the team meetings.

567
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Speaker 2: I've never been a huge Philip Rivers fan, to be honest.

568
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: He's intense. Man, I've never really like been like, gosh,

569
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Speaker 2: I love that guy, but I do find him fascinating.

570
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Speaker 3: Well, where are we gonna slot him in today on

571
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: our QB tears?

572
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: Uh, he's not on him. Oh, okay, he's not on mine.

573
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: All right, I have three tiers basically fair enough, Mike

574
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: is calling in. What's going on? Mike?

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Speaker 10: Hey, guys, thank you appreciate it. Hey, you know, did

576
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 10: you watch that Florida Yukon game last night?

577
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Speaker 4: Time?

578
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Speaker 11: Yes, Florida should have won that game.

579
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Speaker 10: They had that five second called that blew the game. Boy.

580
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Speaker 10: Their coach was pissed off, wasn't you? Yep?

581
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Speaker 3: That was both games last night that the B y

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Speaker 3: U Clemson and Florida Yukon. That was high level college

583
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Speaker 3: basketball at Madison Square Garden.

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Speaker 10: Oh, it was at Florida front Line. Those guys are

585
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Speaker 10: talented and they'll just get better as the year goes.

586
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 10: They're they're scary teams. I think, hey, you know what

587
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 10: they were. I heard an interview with Edwin Diaz and

588
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 10: they were asking him about his brother or r X,

589
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Speaker 10: and uh, he's been working with h Dennis Eckers. He's

590
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Speaker 10: been working started working with the Dodgers relief pitchers last year,

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00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 10: and uh, they said, he's starting to come around. He's

592
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Speaker 10: added he's added a pitch to and he changed his

593
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Speaker 10: mechanics and stuff. Evidently has helped him out a lot.

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Speaker 10: So we'll see what happens. Maybe their ds end up

595
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 10: listing back again one day.

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00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 5: Who knows.

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00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 3: It's just always it's it's unique with pitchers as well,

598
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 3: because you've seen the ability at one point or another

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00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: that they can be elite and sometimes maybe it is

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Speaker 3: just a new coach being able to add something different

601
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Speaker 3: that unlocks something and gets them back to who they were.

602
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Speaker 3: And if that's the case for the Dodgers and they

603
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 3: got both, you know they can get Edwin and Alexis good.

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00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: Luck Alexis is with the Braves.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yes, yeah, but what the Dodgers were more

606
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Speaker 3: possibly able to open up with him?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, Ackers league really helped bring him around and

608
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 10: then they shocked him out. But but I was looking

609
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Speaker 10: at at Eckersley's career record, Tony. I knew he was

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Speaker 10: a starter, but I didn't know he had one hundred

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Speaker 10: complete games. He started three hundred and sixty one games,

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Speaker 10: completed one hundred of them, and then he he had

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Speaker 10: one thousand and seventy one games that he that he

614
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Speaker 10: had four hundred saves, then with twenty five hundred strikeouts

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Speaker 10: in a three point by the ra Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The deplet game status, Well, it'll just it'll never be

617
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Speaker 3: like that again. They're just with the pitch. The pitch

618
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: counts for players. You're just not going to see pitchers

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Speaker 3: go the distance like so many players I remember watching

620
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Speaker 3: growing up, that we're able to go out there and

621
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Speaker 3: throw one hundred and twenty five pitches and go nine

622
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Speaker 3: innings and then come back and do the same thing

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Speaker 3: in their next start.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that those days are gone. You're right. It's kind

625
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 10: of a shame in a way, I think, because everything's

626
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Speaker 10: gotten so dogged on, compartmentalized.

627
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Speaker 3: Well everything everything now is about velocity and it's and

628
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 3: it just everything puts so much stress on the arm

629
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Speaker 3: that these arms are just failing at a higher rate

630
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Speaker 3: because all anyone cares about is how hard can you

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Speaker 3: throw the ball?

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Speaker 10: And that's happening when they're starting at nine ten years old, right, correct? Yeah,

633
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Speaker 10: so by the time they're eighteen, they already are probably

634
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Speaker 10: developing problems that aren't known yet that are ready to

635
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Speaker 10: jump down. Hey, one quick question on the NFL. This

636
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 10: Houston team, now that defense is just staggering.

637
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a super Bowl defense.

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00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 10: It is, and Lee, that's what I want to confirm with.

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00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 10: I know Austin believes in Houston defense, but uh, do

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Speaker 10: you think Stroud's starting to come around now? You think

641
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 10: that offense can could get them there? Or are they not?

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Speaker 3: I still think their offensive line has a ways to go,

643
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: But their last win against the Chiefs, I thought it

644
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: was the best I've seen Stroud. Look, I know he's

645
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: he's been dealing with concussion and and and getting back

646
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: from that, but it feels like you still got Nico Collins.

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00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: I know they they drafted Jayden Higgins high and he's

648
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: played extremely well this year. So I don't think that

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00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: they're their offense will be a storyline at any point,

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Speaker 3: but they're good enough with how good that defense is

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Speaker 3: to compete.

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Speaker 10: Kind of like the Bears were back in age. I

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Speaker 10: mean they had Walter, but other than that, they didn't

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Speaker 10: have nothing. I don't remember much on offense, so so

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Speaker 10: did who was that other wide? And then I know

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Speaker 10: you gotta go who was that other wide out?

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Speaker 12: Tank?

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Speaker 10: That's his first nickname.

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Speaker 2: Let's take down. Yeah he's I think he's out for

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Speaker 2: the season still with that injury from last year.

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Speaker 10: He was a stud though, wasn't he?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And really what they've lost Nick Chubbs has been questionable.

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Speaker 3: That the whole Joe Mixon situation I think has hurt

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Speaker 3: this team dearly this year and and just the unknown

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Speaker 3: around that. So I Dalton Schultz is a good tight end.

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Speaker 3: They they have good, okay pieces on offense, but their

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Speaker 3: their defense is going to be what wins them or

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Speaker 3: loses them games.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they do. They might do some damage in the claffs.

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Speaker 2: Nice appreciate it. Uh, Greg, what's going on?

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Speaker 5: Hey? How's it going guys?

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 12: If obviously the Reds were serious little Kyle Scharver, But

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Speaker 12: if they're still serious, why not maybe take a shot

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Speaker 12: at Alonzo? And you know what I like about Alonzo?

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Speaker 12: Besides all the numbers, the last couple of couple of years,

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Speaker 12: he played one hundred and sixty two games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, Durable, you're gonna.

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Speaker 12: Rema ain't serious. Maybe they are taking a shot at him.

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Speaker 5: And then the other thing.

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Speaker 12: Of course, I'm one of those guys that can't let

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Speaker 12: stuff go. But when I saw the Pirates, I think

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Speaker 12: it was thirty million a year. The first thing I

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Speaker 12: thought of, we owe Key Bryant thirty million for the

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Speaker 12: next four years, a total of thirty million. I thought, Wow,

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Speaker 12: we really helped the Pirates out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I want to tell you that is, you know, one

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Speaker 12: of the dumbest moves I've ever seen.

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Speaker 5: The Reds move. Mate.

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Speaker 12: The guy cannot hit and he's got a chronic bad back.

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Speaker 12: Yeah yes, And and you know, but he can feel.

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Speaker 12: There's spent all these guys that, hey, he is a

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Speaker 12: great feeler. So what and then let's see going back

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Speaker 12: to the back. I know you guys all remember Scott Rowland,

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Speaker 12: we name him here for a couple of years and

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Speaker 12: Scott Rowland wanted to play enough another couple of years

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Speaker 12: that he couldn't because he had a chronic bad back. Anyway,

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Speaker 12: it's just when I see the Pirates, you're offering thirty million,

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Speaker 12: I said, Well, I know we're seven and a half

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Speaker 12: million came from Sure dumping him on us. So anyway, Greg,

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Speaker 12: thank you, man, I have good day.

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Speaker 3: Let me finish this conversation by asking you a question

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Speaker 3: that Moe asked me during one of the breaks.

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Speaker 2: Austin.

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Speaker 3: If you were a Reds fan and you're on the

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Speaker 3: fence about buying a thirteen game ticket package, and you

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Speaker 3: were saying, well, if they had Kyle Schwarber, I would

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Speaker 3: buy the thirteen game package. Would you not buy the

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Speaker 3: same package if they got Pete Alonzo? Right, for a

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Speaker 3: lot of Reds fans, would that be the biggest deal breaker? Beg, Well,

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Speaker 3: you know what, I was going to buy that package

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Speaker 3: if it was Swarber. But if it's pet Alonzo, I'm out. Yep,

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Speaker 3: I don't think many fans would. And I'd be like,

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Speaker 3: all right, I can get around that. Let's go see

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Speaker 3: Pete Alonzo, as Greg just mentioned, plays a ton of games,

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Speaker 3: hits a ton of home runs by all accounts, great teammate.

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Speaker 2: Would you really be out?

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Speaker 3: Would you really say I'm not buying tickets now they

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Speaker 3: didn't get Swarber, I'm out? Who cares if they get Alonzo?

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Speaker 2: How many thirteen game packages. Are you gonna buy with

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Speaker 2: Austin Hayes on an eight million dollars deal?

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Speaker 3: It's a great question. What about Key Brian about his back.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a break. We'll finish up Hour number one

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Speaker 3: next and then we'll get to hear from Zach Taylor

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Speaker 3: to kick off Hour number two.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it. I get off talking about

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Speaker 2: the I know this is much rather here, Zach taalk

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Speaker 2: this is maddening. Let's talk about the Bengals and their

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Speaker 2: path to the playoffs. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station

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Speaker 3: Hour number one, Zach Taylor's weekly press conference will kick

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Speaker 3: off our second hour in just a few minutes, which

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Speaker 3: means we are very quick to get to our end

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Speaker 3: of the hour. Break here, Austin, I didn't have a

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Speaker 3: chance last night to see, but I have seen video clips.

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Speaker 3: Were any big takeaways from I know you're a Hard

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Speaker 3: Hard Knocks is happening right now. Big takeaway for you

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Speaker 3: last night was.

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Speaker 2: What two things through the first two episodes. Brian Schottenheimer

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Speaker 2: is awesome. Yeah, that's the clip. I keep saying. I'm

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Speaker 2: falling in love with him as a potential head coach

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Speaker 2: or as a as the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Really fun to watch and root for. But my favorite

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Speaker 2: segment or scene of last night was they did a

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Speaker 2: montage of all the different cities New York, Washington, Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: Dallas with a remixed version of Ain't No Love in

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Speaker 2: the Heart of the City behind it, and they kept

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Speaker 2: using clips from all the different sports talk radio shows

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Speaker 2: in each of those cities, like criticizing or discussing or whatever,

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Speaker 2: all the different issues because every single team lost that week,

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Speaker 2: and they all lost on the road. It was an

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Speaker 2: me because of what I do.

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Speaker 3: The clip Ice saw, and we talked about this before,

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Speaker 3: was essentially something that we've talked about on the show

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Speaker 3: as it relates to Jamar Chase or even stuff I

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Speaker 3: did back when I was playing of a coach on

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Speaker 3: the sideline, having an understanding that hey, you've got to

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Speaker 3: get certain guys touches on a certain drive. And I

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Speaker 3: know I saw that with Schottenheimer last night as it

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Speaker 3: relates to Cede Lamb and George Pickens. I like that,

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Speaker 3: Hey got to have the understanding, our guys need touches.

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Speaker 3: Let's make sure they get those touches, and they did.

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Speaker 3: Imagine that. Let's take a break. Zach Taylor his weekly

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Speaker 3: you're having a wonderful Wednesday afternoon. It is Wednesday, it's

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Speaker 3: one o'clock. That means Zach Taylor is at the podium

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Speaker 3: for his weekly press conference.

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Speaker 2: We go there now, inspects Stewart to practice today.

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Speaker 15: Short it back, yep, see what he looks.

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Speaker 2: What would you need to see for him to play

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Speaker 2: on Sunday?

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Speaker 15: As it just too yeah different because he's a rookie,

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Speaker 15: you know, and he's missing time. So we'll just get

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Speaker 15: him back. You know, saw of the rehab people last

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Speaker 15: week looked like he's making really good progress. Now it's

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Speaker 15: just to get him out there and see what it

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Speaker 15: looks like today. Today is not full scale, you know

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Speaker 15: like we have on previous Wednesdays. We'll start to light

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Speaker 15: it up a little bit so tomorrow probably get a

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Speaker 15: better indication of what he looks feels like. There's at

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Speaker 15: least a chance that he Yes, where does standah protocol?

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Speaker 15: So he'll be limited today individual stuff and the limited

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Speaker 15: individual stuff that's part of this, Uh, come back from

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Speaker 15: the from the concussion.

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Speaker 16: What happened and coming back is that interecting yourself back

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Speaker 16: into the protocol after the Bills game, do you have

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Speaker 16: to be extra careful?

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Speaker 17: Are you still just leave it into the doctor's hands

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Speaker 17: and whatever?

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Speaker 9: Thing?

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Speaker 5: Say?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, we trust them. I mean they've done a great

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Speaker 15: job with all this stuff, and so again we trust him.

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Speaker 15: And getting your guy back to practice is part of

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Speaker 15: a guy coming back and returning from his percussion, and

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Speaker 15: it'll be a very limited basis.

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Speaker 2: What's the plan for you know, if you can't play,

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Speaker 2: I you know, you go deep in that receiver room with.

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Speaker 15: Just the last time we played him two weeks ago,

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Speaker 15: you know, same same roster, same book, so at least

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Speaker 15: we know what that looks like if he's not able

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Speaker 15: to go, you know, very similar group.

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Speaker 17: How disappointing was it to find out about Hendrickson and

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Speaker 17: not potentially being able to happen for the rest.

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Speaker 10: Of the year.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, nothing new, realiant, I mean that's what it's been

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Speaker 15: the last couple weeks. How do you the next four

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Speaker 15: games could be for some more development he's able to play.

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Speaker 15: I mean, I think you know, we've got high expectations

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Speaker 15: for him, and he's worked really hard to meet those

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Speaker 15: and done everything he can do, and unfortunately to set

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Speaker 15: back with the injury. There's nothing he can control. So

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Speaker 15: I don't think there's there's a pressure to see anything

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Speaker 15: from him in the next four weeks. We'll just we'll

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Speaker 15: see how he feels his practice goes this week, if

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Speaker 15: he's able to get into the game this week, whatever

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Speaker 15: it is, just keep progressing them, keep improving, and that's

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Speaker 15: the big thing. Kind of like I've said, with a

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Speaker 15: lot of the other rookies we've got that have gotten

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Speaker 15: to play more and more time, keep getting better every

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Speaker 15: single week, and Shamara falls in the same category. But

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Speaker 15: he's been great. I mean, these last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 15: he's been He sits right in front of me in

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Speaker 15: the team meeting like he's intented. You can tell he

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Speaker 15: wants to be back, and now it's just a matter

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Speaker 15: of making sure he's healthy.

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Speaker 2: Challenging has the season been for you?

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Speaker 15: They're all challenging. Every situation, every season is unique. He's

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Speaker 15: got his own challenges. He's got his own ups and downs,

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Speaker 15: so it's I just take a week the week, you know,

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Speaker 15: and now we're focused on Baltimore and trying to find

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Speaker 15: a win and really want to win this game to

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Speaker 15: get ourselves a little bit of momentum before the next one.

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Speaker 15: But every season is a challenge in so many ways.

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Speaker 15: Even when your your record is flipped from what it

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Speaker 15: is now, there's still challenges. And the first year you're

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Speaker 15: going to face and our guys are eager for this one.

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Speaker 15: You can feel the energy level is still really good

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Speaker 15: in the building and expected to go play well on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Anytime you're asked about pressure, you say, no one puts

867
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 2: more pressure on you than you.

868
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 15: When when did you.

869
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 5: Get comfortable?

870
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 18: Wasn't right, But when were you able to kind of

871
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 18: tune out the outside noise, especially during challenging seasons like

872
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 18: this record?

873
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 15: Lise, Oh yeah, I don't think that's something that just

874
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 15: happens now. I mean, that's your whole life gets you

875
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 15: ready for that. So I enjoy pressure and enjoy adversity.

876
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 15: Something that scares us or makes us nervous. It's part

877
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 15: of why you're in this profession is doing challenging things

878
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 15: and doing things you don't think everybody can do. And

879
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 15: so we work really hard, even when it's tough, and

880
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 15: even when it looks bleak, to find this over lining

881
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 15: and keep working through it and find a way to win.

882
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 15: And those are some of your greatest moments when you

883
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 15: face a lot of challenges and you come through it.

884
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 15: And so we embrace that. It's not something we let

885
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 15: get us down. It's frustrating when you don't win. It's

886
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 15: frustrating when you're in close games. Yeah, that's the amount

887
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 15: of work we put in and the expectations we have ourself.

888
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 15: That's really hard when it doesn't go your way. But

889
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 15: it doesn't change the fact that you got to wake

890
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 15: up Monday morning and the Ravens are coming to town,

891
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 15: and so you gotta find a way to win.

892
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 18: Obviously, try many different things, I'm sure through the course

893
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 18: of the season, to message your players, get through them,

894
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 18: to motivate them in any way possible.

895
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 11: What has that been like for you this year?

896
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 15: How many ways have you tried? Yeah, I don't try

897
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 15: to do anything outside of my personality number one. You know,

898
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 15: I think that's guys can see through that. So I

899
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 15: just try to be true to myself and and everything

900
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 15: I say is upfront and honest with them. And my

901
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 15: message can change week to week in terms of the

902
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 15: tone and what our approaches, but the bottom line is

903
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 15: I'm gonna try to find every way I can to

904
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 15: keep the team moving in the right direction and get

905
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 15: the best out of everybody. And our coaches do the

906
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 15: same thing, and our players have been responsive to that.

907
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 15: I think they've taken really well of the feedback. We've

908
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 15: had great, honest conversations with a lot of guys, and

909
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 15: we'll just keep keep going on that course. You remember,

910
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 15: we're starting this moment with the team even individually. No,

911
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 15: I mean it's it's every week you kind of put

912
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 15: in the pass a little bit, you know. I obviously

913
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 15: take my notes on on things I gotta do front

914
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 15: of the course of the week or things we did well,

915
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 15: But my focus is solely on Baltimore right now.

916
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: That's tough to game play against.

917
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 15: They're really good. I mean, they've got a lot of veterans,

918
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 15: they're really smart, and you can just see the communication

919
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 15: really starting with Roquan seeing on the whole back end Hamilton.

920
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 15: They've got edge guys that are veteran veterans, interior guys

921
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 15: that are veterans linebacker, that's a veteran safeties that are

922
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 15: veteran and rookie first round pick, and the dvs are

923
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 15: all really smart. And you know, obviously a younger one

924
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 15: over there with number two, but still with Cheeto and

925
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 15: Marlin and all those guys, it's a really veteran group.

926
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 15: And so that shows up with their communication, with how

927
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 15: they're playing all the different defenses, their response to one

928
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 15: of your responses, how quickly they get it communicated. It's

929
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 15: all really impressive and nothing is easy when you play

930
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 15: against them, and so again it takes a lot of

931
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 15: work from us over the course of the week. Obviously

932
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 15: it's nice for having seven days as supposed to four days,

933
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 15: but that still doesn't make it any less challenging. It's

934
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 15: it's they're a tough defense to go against.

935
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 14: How important is it to have a building a roster

936
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 14: to have that mesh of veteran guys, young guys are

937
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 14: a defensive side of the ball, like Matrid, it's the

938
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 14: right mix to get it to where you need to be.

939
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 15: Yeah, you try to find a balance just to make

940
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 15: sure your units as good as it can be.

941
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 2: What makes what's special.

942
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 15: I don't know what position you would you would really

943
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 15: say he plays. He's I don't even know if he's

944
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 15: listed as a safety. Maybe that's probably the last position

945
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 15: he plays right now. But he's he is really an

946
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 15: effective defensive end. He's an effective linebacker, he's an effective nickel,

947
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 15: he's an effective cover guy. So whatever spot you want

948
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 15: to classify that as. He's really intelligent, he's really long,

949
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 15: he's really strong. It's it's there's not a lot of

950
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 15: weaknesses to his game. His football intelligence is extremely high,

951
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 15: and so he's he's somebody you have to be in

952
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 15: tune with every single play. No, not really, no, I

953
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 15: mean you can maybe put him in a safety category

954
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 15: with some really great I didn't really play. I hate

955
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 15: to make some comparisons because some guys I don't know

956
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 15: as well, but he's certainly a unique guy de play against.

957
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 15: He's really good.

958
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 16: I'm I'm pretty honest with a few of us at

959
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 16: owner's meetings about the lack of the second contracts that

960
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 16: you guys have given to offensive linemen being an indictment

961
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 16: of that being an area that you guys.

962
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 17: Wanted to improve. When you look at how well Marius

963
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 17: is playing and how well Dylan is playing right now?

964
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: Did you and Duke and the.

965
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 17: Personnel group change anything in your process of evaluating offensive

966
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 17: lineman or is it just as simple as those two.

967
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:38,959
Speaker 10: You guys just really hit.

968
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 15: On those two.

969
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 12: Well.

970
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 15: Starting with a Marius, I mean the reason we took

971
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 15: him in the first round. Our scouts had tremendous conviction

972
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 15: on him. They he only had seven games on tape

973
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 15: for us to watch as a coaching staff. Our scouts

974
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 15: had been there in Georgia. They talked to the coaches

975
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 15: they'd watched in practice. So I give a lot of

976
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 15: credit to our scouting department on A Marius because they

977
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 15: had great conviction. You can imagine anytime a guy has

978
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 15: a limited film from a coaching standpoint, it's hard to

979
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 15: know what you're getting. So I give them full credit

980
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 15: because he's He's been awesome to work with. He's a

981
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 15: guy who's eager to be at his best. He's very coachable,

982
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 15: he's got a high level football intelligence. A Marius is

983
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 15: really on a tremendous trajectory for us right now, but

984
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 15: our scouting department played a huge part in that. Dalton

985
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 15: is a veteran guy that some of our coaches have

986
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 15: been around before as well, so we knew what we

987
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 15: were getting when we added him in training camp from

988
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 15: that veteran this and I think he's he's done an

989
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 15: excellent job filling in the right guard and giving us

990
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 15: really good leadership in the room in conjunction with some

991
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 15: other veterans we have. But also just this play on

992
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 15: the field next to Marius has been good too, you know,

993
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 15: as a veteran guy next to a second year player.

994
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 15: So really pleased with how those two guys have have

995
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 15: done a great job for us this year. I think

996
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 15: Dylan's on a great trajectory as well. I'm really pleased

997
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 15: with him again, he's standers between two really veteran players

998
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 15: that are help him bring him along. I think Scott

999
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 15: and Mike have done a great job in that room

1000
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 15: as well, developing these guys and getting the most out

1001
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 15: of everybody. So it's been a great combination of a

1002
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 15: lot of things. And we've got a lot of confidence

1003
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 15: in our offensive line.

1004
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 11: Right now, you're talking about pressure, Do you feel any

1005
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 11: extra pressure this week because you guys could be eliminated

1006
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 11: from playoff contention?

1007
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 15: As I mean, maybe it sounds silly, But every week

1008
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 15: for us is I can tell you what we're doing

1009
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 15: every minute of every single day leading up to Sunday

1010
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 15: to get ourselves right. And that's that's what we're focused on.

1011
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 15: We want to win more than anything, so we don't

1012
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 15: we don't look at it in that light. It's just

1013
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 15: what can we do to win this game? And that's

1014
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 15: that's the same approach that we have every week.

1015
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 7: Any tell tale signs you look forward to make sure

1016
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 7: the guys are still into it, and telltale signs around

1017
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 7: the building.

1018
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 4: You know.

1019
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 15: I just I feel like I've got a really good

1020
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 15: feel for these guys right now, and they can and

1021
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 15: you see it when you're watching the Buffalo game, when

1022
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 15: you're watching the Baltimore game. I mean, it's it's there,

1023
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 15: it's evident, and and our guys have expected to win

1024
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 15: these games. And obviously we didn't come through on that

1025
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 15: last one. But I think it's crystal clear when you

1026
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 15: when you watch this play football, what our guys are

1027
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 15: up to right now. I'm not I'm not always in

1028
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 15: the way, you know, so practice, the energy has been great,

1029
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 15: that communications outstanding, guys are flying around. Guys are you know,

1030
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 15: we're asking certain things of them during practice that we're

1031
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 15: going to show the team on Friday mornings, and it

1032
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 15: always shows up in practice. And so, uh, that's that's

1033
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 15: what you can ask for, and our guys are giving.

1034
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 5: That to us.

1035
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 15: Three your four wins this year come against the AC North.

1036
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 15: Why have you guys been so successful as indivision? I

1037
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 15: can't answer that. You know, it's obviously I wish there's

1038
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 15: more of them, and it's it's a big deal. You know,

1039
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 15: your your best chance of doing all the things you

1040
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 15: want to do in the postseason, run through the division,

1041
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 15: winning the division, being successful in your division, and so

1042
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 15: you know, we we feel like we got a great

1043
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 15: feel for them. They got a great feel for us.

1044
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 15: I can't pinpoint why three of us four have been

1045
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 15: in a stow division.

1046
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 18: A DJ Turner trailing the other team's best receiver a

1047
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 18: lot this year. What's its meaning for the defense when

1048
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 18: you can do that? And uh, and what's it say

1049
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 18: about his willingness to want that what he wants?

1050
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 15: He absolutely wants that. He's he's he's earned all this.

1051
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 15: You know, he's not a guy that just speaks and

1052
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 15: doesn't put in the work. He's I've told you know,

1053
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 15: stories all season about training camp conversations with him, and

1054
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 15: just really proud of him the way he's handled everything

1055
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 15: and and the way that he just fights every week.

1056
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 15: And you can just feel the I mean, you can

1057
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 15: genuinely feel the confidence from him oozing off of him.

1058
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 15: And he's he's been a tremendous asset for us.

1059
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 12: Uh.

1060
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 15: He's a really good communicator. It's really important to him.

1061
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 15: He understands what it means to cover their best guy.

1062
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 15: He understands all that that entails, the good and the bad,

1063
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 15: and he's willing to embrace it all and proud of

1064
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 15: the season he's he's having and he'll just continue to

1065
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 15: lead us. And there's some great opportunity here starting with

1066
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 15: this game as well. So I'm excited to watch DJ

1067
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 15: finish out the year.

1068
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 2: Is that always the case you could feel his confidence

1069
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: or is this something.

1070
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 5: That you've kind of.

1071
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 2: I think he's always had it.

1072
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 15: I pinpoint any any difference. I just think for a

1073
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 15: lot of guys going into this is what year three

1074
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 15: for DJ, that that makes a lot of sense. You know,

1075
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 15: in corners a really challenging position. There's a lot of

1076
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 15: ups and downs when you're facing the high level of

1077
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 15: players you got to face every week in this league,

1078
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 15: and so your experience really starts to kick in. You've

1079
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 15: seen a lot of different things. You've started to see

1080
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 15: repeat receivers over and over again, so you understand a

1081
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 15: little bit of maybe how they're trying to attack you

1082
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 15: and some of the nuances of their game. And so

1083
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 15: you get into that third year, that fourth year, and

1084
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 15: and a lot of things start to kick in, you know,

1085
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 15: and I think he's just really disappointed with how he

1086
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 15: goes about his whole process, how he practices and how

1087
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 15: he plays, and he's he's proven a big guy that

1088
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 15: we can really count on. When you play a team

1089
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 15: twice in three weeks, Is it easier?

1090
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1091
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 15: I really don't know. It's you know, it's there's only

1092
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 15: one game. There's there's really eight quarters, like Pitch likes

1093
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 15: to say before we of new film, and that's including

1094
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 15: ours against him. So, you know, you get to this

1095
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 15: point in the year and yeah, there's adjustments everyone's making.

1096
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 15: We're making and they're making. But the proof is kind

1097
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 15: of in the in the previous twelve thirteen games of

1098
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 15: tape of what your identity is and how you want

1099
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 15: to be and you can always adjust based on your opponent,

1100
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 15: but for the most part, the core of what you're

1101
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 15: going to be is out there. And so to play

1102
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 15: tea in two times in three weeks is you know

1103
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 15: what their identity is and now you just gotta be

1104
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 15: ready for some of the wrinkles they're gonna throw at you.

1105
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 15: Thank you all right.

1106
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 3: That is Zach Taylor's weekly Wednesday press conference. I believe

1107
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow speaks later today as well. Moager will have that.

1108
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 3: A couple quick things that stood out awesome. I thought

1109
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 3: Jay Morrison brought up a good question there at the

1110
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 3: end of how difficult is it to play the same

1111
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 3: team twice in three weeks, especially when it's a division opponent,

1112
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 3: right Like, you already are familiar with your opponent, then

1113
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 3: you turn around and play them twice in a three

1114
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 3: weeks span. That's extremely hard to do.

1115
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 6: It.

1116
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 3: It puts more of an emphasis on game planning, It

1117
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 3: puts more of an emphasis on the in game coaching

1118
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 3: because you do know each other so well, and it

1119
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 3: also puts an emphasis on what the injury and availability

1120
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 3: is going to look like. Two of the things that

1121
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 3: I thought stood out at the start of that press conference,

1122
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 3: was t Higgins at least going through individual drills today

1123
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 3: on a limited basis.

1124
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 2: Shocked to hear that?

1125
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 3: Shocked. I thought he would for sure be out today.

1126
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 3: And then Shamar Stewart practicing and not completely downplaying, did

1127
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor the chance that perhaps Shamar Stewart could play

1128
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 3: and help this team on Sunday? Anything else stand out

1129
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 3: to you that you took note of.

1130
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: I liked the question from Kelsey about did they change

1131
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: anything about the way that they evaluate offensive linemen and

1132
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 2: he didn't really say that they did, but more the

1133
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 2: experience of veteran guys next to them and kind of

1134
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: helping him out. And he repeatedly talked about the conviction

1135
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 2: that the scouting department had on Amarius Mims. And I

1136
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: think when we look back on this season and try

1137
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: to figure out the good, the bad, and the ugly,

1138
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 2: I don't know that Amarius Mims has been the best

1139
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: right tackle in the NFL, but he wasn't that far

1140
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 2: away from it. I mean, he's been a very good

1141
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: player for this team. You never talk about him. He

1142
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 2: doesn't commit penalties, He rarely, you know, screws up, and

1143
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 2: I think that's a big, big building block figuratively and

1144
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 2: literally for this team going into this next phase of

1145
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 2: Bengals football, and if they're able to hit on Dylan

1146
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: Fairchild now going to the offseason, depth at that position

1147
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 2: has to be addressed. Yes, they're not going to be

1148
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 2: fully healthy, you know, all of next year and obviously

1149
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 2: the Borrow injuries, but I think you know, there is

1150
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 2: a certainly some positive momentum for that group that should

1151
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: not be ignored.

1152
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is an upward trajectory. We've talked about their

1153
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 3: inability to sign lineman that they've brought into a second

1154
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 3: deal for quite some time. But again, I do go

1155
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 3: back to the difficulty that goes into playing a team

1156
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 3: that you're so familiar with already twice in a three

1157
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 3: week span. I think that is extremely, extremely difficult to do,

1158
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 3: and I do think it puts an emphasis on coaching

1159
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 3: and scheme and in game adjustments. I also think it's interesting, Austin,

1160
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 3: it's for both teams an elimination game on Sunday, not

1161
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 3: just for one of these teams. It's essentially an elimination

1162
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 3: game for both of these teams on Sunday. And when

1163
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 3: that becomes the possibility or when that becomes out there.

1164
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 3: Do you approach the game any differently? It's fine, coach

1165
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: peak is good. We're gonna approach this week the same

1166
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 3: way when you get into the meetings, when you get

1167
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 3: on the practice field. Is it truly being approached the

1168
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 3: same way or is there an understanding that you're going

1169
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 3: to get that team's best. You have to match intensity,

1170
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 3: you have to match the physicality, And I think it

1171
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: being a division game helps that because you already know

1172
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 3: you're going to have to do that. But so many

1173
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 3: interesting parallels right now between these two teams, what they're

1174
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 3: going up against and what they're facing on Sunday.

1175
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: I would imagine there's a lot like situationally going into it.

1176
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 2: You know, maybe we're gonna be a little bit more

1177
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 2: aggressive on fourth down or this is you know, we're

1178
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: gonna call these plays knowing that we have two downs

1179
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 2: to get it first fourth and short of the game,

1180
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 2: We're going no matteractly like that sort of stuff, because

1181
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: you know, I do I think Zach's being genuine in

1182
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 2: the sense of, like, I don't feel the pressure. I

1183
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 2: do the same thing every week to try to prepare,

1184
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 2: and I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing. But yeah,

1185
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 2: I think that sort of stuff, the communication with the

1186
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 2: team of like, Okay, this is our last shot. Here's

1187
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: how we're going to approach these downs, these situations, red zone,

1188
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: so on the come up with a plan that might

1189
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:45,439
Speaker 2: be a little bit different than normal.

1190
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 3: All Right, we'll take our first break to the second

1191
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 3: hour when we come back your Wednesday edition of talkbacks

1192
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 3: here on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1193
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 8: Hey, Alexa, who's like ESPN fifteenth Cincinnati Sports Station's.

1194
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 10: That type for talkbacks?

1195
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 5: It's that microphone and record a message a missile toe,

1196
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 5: I bring this nut keeper this.

1197
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 15: You better not be naughty.

1198
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 5: That's that time for talkbacks.

1199
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 2: It's the most what rifle time of the show.

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01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 7: Austin and Hody, Well, you guide this very slay today

1201
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 7: and try not to sabotage it.

1202
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 2: Very Christmas.

1203
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 3: Thank you Santa. Appreciate that we do have some updates

1204
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 3: from winter meetings. Real quick before we get into talkbacks. Austin,

1205
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 3: you know that Ken Rosenthal quote that everyone in Cincinnati

1206
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 3: was going crazy about. That said, unlike the Orioles, the

1207
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 3: Reds are not expected to pursue any other big names. Well,

1208
01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 3: the Orioles did pursue another big name, and they took

1209
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 3: that one fifty a year or one fifty that Kyle

1210
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 3: Schuberg gott and they said, okay, pet Alonzo, how about

1211
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 3: five years for a buck fifty five? Pete Alonzo is

1212
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 3: a Baltimore oriol Good for Pete, Good for Pete, Good

1213
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 3: for the Baltimore Orioles. Who I believe I saw it

1214
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 3: right up here. The Orioles revenue is only about eight

1215
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 3: million dollars more than the Reds, and they just been

1216
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty five million on pet Alonzo.

1217
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 2: Here are your talkbacks. The Orioles got new owners.

1218
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 5: Oh oh hey guys, James from Batavia here, James, I

1219
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 5: just wish the.

1220
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 4: Castelinis knew how tone death they really were. This comment

1221
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 4: from yesterday, you know about them having money and just

1222
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 4: they're choosing not to spend it.

1223
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 10: It's worse than the where You're gonna go comment.

1224
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 5: It's just tone death and it's ridiculous.

1225
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 10: You know, Bob, we have money too, and we can

1226
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 10: choose not to spend it.

1227
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 5: We can choose not to come the game.

1228
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 10: We come to games because we love the Reds.

1229
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:58,439
Speaker 7: Figure it out.

1230
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 9: Okay, before I start singing, I'd like to make the

1231
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 9: following statement, I think it's a travesty that the great

1232
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 9: Joe Burrow is saddled with Zach Taylor as his head coach.

1233
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 9: The Bengals need to move on from this buffoon. They

1234
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 9: should fire Taylor soon, preferably Christmas morning.

1235
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: Oh, Tony Pie Carson, Paul Mr Mett Lieiner, A J. Brown, Say,

1236
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 2: Quon bar Plea, Jalen Herb.

1237
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 19: Yeah, wow, Hey, Tony Haywson, it's the Lord. If you

1238
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 19: got a chance to run in the cash cab and

1239
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 19: you asked a question about the Bengals and you did

1240
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 19: not know the answer to it, Charlie Goldsmith, who would

1241
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,439
Speaker 19: you call to get that answer? And you have three

1242
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 19: candidates and you can only pick one. Would you call

1243
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 19: James Orpene, No, hell, No, Joe Daniman or Charlie Goldsmith

1244
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 19: and you can only tick one, and this question is

1245
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 19: worth one thousand dollars.

1246
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 2: I would pick. Yeah, it would be Charlie, then Joe,

1247
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: then James.

1248
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 3: I think I would agree. And if it got down,

1249
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 3: and I think Danman will tell you that as well.

1250
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. And if it was if

1251
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 2: Charlie and Joe didn't pick up, then I would just

1252
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 2: guess I would even call you now, James, when you

1253
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 2: get a call.

1254
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 6: I was at the barbershop this morning and the guy

1255
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 6: waiting was talking about how Joe Burrows, yeah with the

1256
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 6: S was solely to blame for the Bengals loss and

1257
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 6: Kyle Schwarber denied the Reds offer. It took so much

1258
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 6: effort not to chime back at him. But when I

1259
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 6: left there, I told him to tune in the ESPN

1260
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 6: fifteen thirty get a little more sports knowledge.

1261
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that. Now he knows what's better

1262
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: though than a good barbershop banter. If he's listening, you know,

1263
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 2: now he knows that you You kind of outed him,

1264
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 2: and good luck getting your haircut next time.

1265
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 4: Hello, this is former President Ronaldric and Roddy well El.

1266
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,439
Speaker 4: Since you two are the number one sports talk duo

1267
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 4: in the land, I was wondering what Christmas show duo

1268
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 4: are you most like? Rudolph and Herbie or the Heat

1269
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 4: Miser and Cold Miser, or would it be John McLean

1270
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 4: and Hans Gruber.

1271
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 2: I think morning it was Heat Miser and Cold Mines. Yeah,

1272
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 2: a lot more lately it's been Heat Miser and Cals.

1273
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 2: Who does the top sports do is that City Beat?

1274
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 2: Probably not, probably not the inquire I don't know, I

1275
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: don't I don't know who John McLean Is that die Hards?

1276
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 2: That's Diehard? Good job, good job, Thanks Mann, Hey, guys,

1277
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 2: Jeff and Ner Richmond.

1278
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 20: Happy Wednesday two Yet, So I was thinking about the

1279
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 20: Kyle Schwarber thing yesterday. Sure it sounds like we just

1280
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 20: missed out by like twenty five million. Boy, it's a

1281
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 20: shame we had to pay j Mar twenty one million

1282
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 20: to go away. We could use that money more. It

1283
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 20: just shows the mismanagement of this REDS organization constantly comes

1284
01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 20: back to bite us.

1285
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 2: Jmar.

1286
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's Greig. Hey.

1287
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 12: I saw this morning on a mock draft they had

1288
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 12: the Bengals at ten taking Jeremiah Love running back, Notre Dame.

1289
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 2: How do you guys feel about that?

1290
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 5: And today?

1291
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 2: Where would each of you be with number ten?

1292
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 3: Oh man, if I had any chance to get Caleb Downs,

1293
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 3: I would, if not, just burn the whole thing down

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Speaker 3: and just get another offensive weapon.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be taking a running back, I can tell

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Speaker 2: you that much.

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Speaker 21: I'm glad all these UC fans got time during their

1298
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 21: smoke break at Burger King to send a message about

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01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 21: big brother get back on the fryar.

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Speaker 3: My guy, Wow, that's to Maso. I think I saw

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01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 3: he just tell Mason to get back on that friar.

1302
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 2: I think it was the one yesterday that I had

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01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 2: to cut off. I saw a tweet from someone today

1304
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 2: who is a UC fan and they're like one of

1305
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 2: those trolls, trolls Xavier. Oh and so their name is

1306
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 2: Xavier has zero final force. But they spelled I just

1307
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 2: don't know how at this point you control hold on

1308
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 2: stop Xavier. They said they spelled Xavier wrong. How can

1309
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 2: you do you understand the damage you're doing to the

1310
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 2: rest of the fan base when you do something like that. Yeah,

1311
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 2: I mean it's dammage. How do you spell Xavier wrong?

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01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 2: It's not hard.

1313
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 22: Tony and Austin Ray from cleeves Hey in relation to

1314
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 22: Jermaine Burton and I think you guys told the story

1315
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 22: that Zach Taylor and Duke Tobin were high five in

1316
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 22: each other when they.

1317
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 2: Got they thought they got a STEALA.

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01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 22: Didn't there have to be something out there that said

1319
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:41,439
Speaker 22: that Jermaine was seriously fundamentally flawed, that Zach and Duke

1320
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 22: should have seen and by the fact that they didn't.

1321
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,959
Speaker 22: Doesn't that mean that they're incredibly incompetent evaluators?

1322
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 3: Yes, I know that there were a lot of people

1323
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,959
Speaker 3: Austin that took Jermaine Burton completely off their draft board,

1324
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 3: if you were because of those issues.

1325
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 2: We were talking about Hard Knocks earlier that season. There

1326
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 2: was the off season version of Hard Knocks with the

1327
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 2: New York Giants, and at one point they didn't blur

1328
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 2: out the Giants draft board. And you see certain guys

1329
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 2: that have a different colored name, and all I believe

1330
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 2: it was purple. Everybody who was purple is character concerns,

1331
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 2: doesn't love football. Not on our board. Jermaine Burton's name

1332
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 2: was purple. Yeah for the New York Giants, and the

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01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 2: New York Giants suck right well.

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01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 23: Talking about the O line, quick check shows that the

1335
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 23: Pro Football Riders vote on the all rookie team. We

1336
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 23: gotta think Fairchild is going to get some recognition out

1337
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 23: of that, don't we should?

1338
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 2: I would think so we should.

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01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 13: Tony Austin loved the show.

1340
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 2: Do have a question though, and this is not sarcasm.

1341
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 4: I never heard of Asia Wilson until yesterday afternoon, when

1342
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 4: when Moe talked about her on his show.

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01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 2: Am I the only one? You're probably not the only

1344
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 2: only one, but I don't know that. I'd be proud

1345
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 2: of you.

1346
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 3: Follow along with sports, it's hard to ignore what she's done. Yeah,

1347
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 3: she's also like one of the biggest Nike athletes in

1348
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 3: the world.

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01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 10: Heay, here's the thought. Do you know what tell tickets?

1350
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 5: Winning?

1351
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 10: Yes, winning ticket?

1352
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 1: Maybe we could get somebody STI can help with win

1353
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 1: red front office.

1354
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 5: People know who you are, but who.

1355
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 2: Who could help us with? Hey, Tony and Austin. Austin.

1356
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 24: I've been playing around with the playoff simulator on ESPN,

1357
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 24: and I found out that it is possible for the

1358
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 24: Bengals to make the playoffs at seven and ten. It's possible,

1359
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 24: but not probable. And to quote the mom from home alone,

1360
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 24: this is Christmas, the season of perpetual hope. Yes, so

1361
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 24: I guess I'll just continue to hope and hold out

1362
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 24: until they break my miserable little heart again.

1363
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 2: That that path would be that the Bengals lose to

1364
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, I think, or maybe lose to the Cardinals.

1365
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 2: But when the other games and then Baltimore and Pittsburgh

1366
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 2: tie and lose the rest of their games. Whoday lose them,

1367
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:09,600
Speaker 2: Is that right? I don't know.

1368
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 21: You know, Red's attendance went up last year, So the

1369
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 21: Castellinis and the owner ownership group has been receiving more

1370
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 21: money year over year. Fans are doing their part, and

1371
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 21: god forbid, they ask the ownership to do theirs and

1372
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 21: try to put a better product on the field when

1373
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 21: there's glaring holes on the roster. I don't care if

1374
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,799
Speaker 21: Carl Schwarver hits a game winning home runner, if it's espinal,

1375
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 21: I'm cheering just the same. Just put a damn winning

1376
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 21: product on the field.

1377
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 25: Yeah, it's either really sad or really funny that they'd

1378
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 25: want to sign them to sell tickets.

1379
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 2: It's okay to win games. They should have signed them

1380
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 2: whatever it took.

1381
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 25: It had been a bright light in like a two

1382
01:10:53,360 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 25: month Nebraska Alaska dark night, I wouldn't have pub Rivers.

1383
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 25: I would have went after THENNY tester Verdi Ton.

1384
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 2: I saw bad Brad Johnson throwing some passes the other day.

1385
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 26: What about us mcahoona in Kentucky. Now, Jermaine Burton's gone.

1386
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 26: I got a feeling he's gonna go somewhere and be

1387
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 26: a star. Probably they have a good year. So but

1388
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 26: did we ever figure out why he got a victim?

1389
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 26: And then where he started living at after that? Did

1390
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 26: he live with Burrow? Did he live with Chase? Did

1391
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 26: he might try to take him under his wing. I

1392
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 26: just hate to see the guy go like that. And

1393
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 26: Mike in La, I mean, take his Dodgers talking stick

1394
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 26: it somewhere. I'm tired of him calling in about the Dodgers.

1395
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 26: We had a beat last year and let him get

1396
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 26: in our path. Next year, we're gonna whip them.

1397
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 2: Had a beat. Yeah, Jamaine Burton's gonna be starring the

1398
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 2: World Series of Poker. When when did we the Dodgers beat? Awesome?

1399
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 5: Tony?

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01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 27: You know what drives ticket sales? Winning winning baseball drive sales.

1401
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 27: They asked us to pack the part for that weekend

1402
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 27: when we were still in the fight. Yep, they get

1403
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 27: swept and yet it was near so all crowd all

1404
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 27: three nights. Why because of winning baseball? This city is

1405
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 27: torn on the Bearcats and Xavior, This city is in

1406
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 27: and out on the Browns family, but this city loves

1407
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 27: its Red baseball.

1408
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 2: He hasn't seen the Reds win in a long time,

1409
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 2: and that they'll still come out and do it. Hey, guys,

1410
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 2: which goes to the point it is a lifestyle brand.

1411
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 2: It's not a baseball team. The Reds have brainwashed people

1412
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 2: enough to think.

1413
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 28: That, Hey, guys, does Terry Francona realize that he was

1414
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 28: hired to sell tickets too, and not really be concerned

1415
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 28: about winning games.

1416
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 5: That may explain some of the managerial decisions. I don't know.

1417
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 2: Possibly, I'm beginning to join the chorus of everyone else.

1418
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 2: It's just pleased? Is can somebody else buy the team

1419
01:12:53,360 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 2: that really wants to win? Have a good one? Guys, frustrate.

1420
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 29: Stress, Shore's off the table. Alonzo's off the table after

1421
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 29: signing with the Orioles Sars is our guy. He just

1422
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 29: had forty nine home runs last year. We could make

1423
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 29: him our full time DH. He's insurance to play third

1424
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 29: base of Hayes is having a bad back day.

1425
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 5: That to me makes the most sense.

1426
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 29: Maybe twenty two to twenty three million dollars a year,

1427
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 29: Maybe a three year deal since he's thirty four, Maybe

1428
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 29: a two year deal.

1429
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that makes sense because he would sell

1430
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: tickets because he's a beloved figure. Yep, he hasn't a

1431
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 2: bride in the LBA.

1432
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 30: Boy Anyway, I'm done Denzel Alfanato, who are making a

1433
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 30: root for? Oh, it's an honor to get an invitation

1434
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 30: to the historically relevant Uh, Liberty Ball?

1435
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 13: Are you cadding me?

1436
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 7: Are you canding me?

1437
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 2: Cutting Ham? What a joke.

1438
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 30: We get to sit back next year and watch Sores

1439
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 30: be having sinner looking season somewhere else.

1440
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 5: I'm done.

1441
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 12: Hey, guys, run in Wisconsin looking for a white helth

1442
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 12: and Christmas gift. If you can help me find a

1443
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 12: game worn Burton jersey.

1444
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 2: I can't find one anywhere that would be a Hi

1445
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 2: Tony Hi AUTI. I just have a Bearcats football question

1446
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 2: for you TP.

1447
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 27: If the Bearcats do move on from ben in Swordsby

1448
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 27: or should I say Swordsby moves on, it's Samas Jones.

1449
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 2: Is he ready to take control?

1450
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think they If that's the case,

1451
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 3: they would have to go into the portal.

1452
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 31: With all the turmoil within the bankals and with management

1453
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:55,600
Speaker 31: and everything, do you think it's time for everyone to

1454
01:14:55,760 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 31: start picking a backup team to root for. I'm kinda

1455
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 31: I'm kind of rooting for the Bills at this point.

1456
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 31: I'm still rooting for Joe Burrow, but whoa. I like

1457
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 31: the Bills my back list.

1458
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 3: If a horn or something like that goes off in

1459
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 3: the middle of your talk back, you have you have

1460
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 3: to address it.

1461
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 2: It sounds like he was there's only he paused and

1462
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 2: he was going to it almost sound like a clown horn.

1463
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 2: There's only a few people out there that are going

1464
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 2: to get this, but it sounded like he just pulled

1465
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 2: up to the redeploy station. I have this actually earmarked

1466
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 2: for a segment later on. Is us picking our team

1467
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 2: for the playoffs and explaining why yep, I've already been thinking.

1468
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,759
Speaker 3: Always a fun segment. His playoffs come with Cincinnati sports fans.

1469
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 3: Pick an na tournament team, pick a Major League Baseball team,

1470
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 3: pick an NFL team you want to adopt for the playoffs?

1471
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 3: Tail as old as time. Just keep doing that. We're done,

1472
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 3: take a break. Football INNNATI Next ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati

1473
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 3: Sports Station.

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01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 2: Are you paying too much for Cinnati?

1475
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: Brought to you by butt Light on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 1: the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back football in the NATI since e

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Speaker 3: three to sixty thanks to Cincy shirts.

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Speaker 11: Do you have.

1480
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 3: A hard time or struggle figuring out what the perfect

1481
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 3: Christmas gift is for someone in your family. I mean,

1482
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 3: it's pretty easy with Cincy Shirts, whether it's a gift

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Speaker 3: card or just get them a shirt or a sweatshirt,

1484
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 3: their favorite team or their throwback shirts are fantastic. It's

1485
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Speaker 3: not all about the apparel as well. You can find

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Speaker 3: everything at any of their two retail locations or go

1487
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 3: to Cinci Shirts dot com. It is the perfect holiday gift. Austin,

1488
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 3: do we have breaking NFL news?

1489
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 2: We do, Tony. Today, the NFL Virtual League meetings are

1490
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 2: happening and the National Football League has announced that they

1491
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 2: are financial backing a professional flag football league. They are

1492
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 2: going to support, financially and develop the launch of a

1493
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 2: professional flag football league. This landmark decision authorizes thirty two Equity,

1494
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 2: which is the league's collective investment vehicle, to enter into

1495
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 2: an agreement with a partner to operate a professional flag

1496
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 2: football league and invest up to thirty two million dollars

1497
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 2: in that league. The NFL's commitment reflects a long term

1498
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,600
Speaker 2: effort to support flag football in all forms as it

1499
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 2: continues to grow and evice nice. So congratulations, Now, I

1500
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 2: guess I think I have to ask as well, if

1501
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 2: you followed along Monday Night Football to the Monsters, Inc.

1502
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 2: Broadcast at All Sunday Night Football. They called it the

1503
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 2: Chargers put up a stat line for James P. Sullivan

1504
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 2: Sully what he was able to do Monday night listening

1505
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 2: to us. He had a sack, Sure, he scored a touchdown, right,

1506
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,759
Speaker 2: he had a sixty yard catch, He made a fifty

1507
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 2: four yard field goal, and four interceptions on Jalen Hurts preay,

1508
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: good night. Now, anytime something like that happens in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: you have to expect that things are going to be

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Speaker 2: looked into random drug tests. We get anything on Solly. Uh,

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Speaker 2: there was some out there have said that James P.

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Speaker 2: Sully Sullivan has tested positive for performance enhancing drugs and

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Speaker 2: thus been suspended. Oh definitely by the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: Sally really bursts out of the scene there. Oh, what

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Speaker 2: a huge game. And uh, you know it's too good

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Speaker 2: to bear out of that balloon. You knew it was

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01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 2: too good to be true. Don't know how the Chargers

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Speaker 2: are going to recover?

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Speaker 3: One final break for the hour, we'll come back, we'll

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Speaker 3: put a bow on things, we'll try to take a

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Speaker 3: phone call, and then we'll get to Jeff Carr. You

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Speaker 3: want to talk about wellness checks, We need to check

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Speaker 3: on our guy, Jeff Carr. We'll do so at two

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Speaker 32: for snow this afternoon. We dry out briefly tomorrow, still

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Speaker 32: cloudy and cold, but more snow moves in Friday morning,

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Speaker 1: Continues now on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: Hey there, welcome back Sincey three sixty Thanks to Sincey shirts.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for spending part of your win day afternoon

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Speaker 3: with us our number three ahead. Jeff Carr lockedown Reds

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01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 3: Podcast to join us. We will take a few minutes.

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01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 3: I am going to play part of Jim Valvano's sb's speech,

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01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 3: his initial sp speech that I've watched every year and

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01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 3: share it with you if you've heard it, if you've

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01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 3: not heard it, doesn't hurt to hear it again this

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01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 3: time of the year. Mo Wager will join us for

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01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 3: quick hits and more. Before we get to that third hour,

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Speaker 3: Let's grab John's phone call.

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Speaker 11: Hey John, Happy hump day, fellas.

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01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, it's cold and snowy here, but that's

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01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 11: going to be like that for the next three months

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01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 11: here in Boston, so we just have to cope with it.

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01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 11: I'm anxious to hear your quarterback tiers. My top tier

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01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 11: would be Borow, Mahomes, Jackson, Allen, and Stafford because they've

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01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 11: been around enough, they've accomplished a lot, so I think

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Speaker 11: like Drake Nak could just definitely jump into that category.

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Speaker 11: Do it more than just one year, So I'd say

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Speaker 11: those five guys are the tier to one quarterbacks and

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01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 11: the narrative you hear so much about Borrow, Jackson, and

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01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 11: Allen is they're never gonna win anything. Well, Peyton Manning

1565
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 11: didn't make the playoffs till his sixth season. Drew Brees, Actually,

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Speaker 11: I take that back. If Peyton Manning didn't win a

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01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 11: playoff game till the sixth season, Drew Brees didn't didn't

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01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 11: make a playoff appear until his sixth season. We consider

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01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 11: them pretty good quarterbacks, right, great quarterbacks. These three guys

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01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,560
Speaker 11: have won fifteen playoff games. Borrow of course went with

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01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 11: the Super Bowl four years ago, and they played in

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01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 11: the last five AFC Championship games against Patrick Mahomes. So

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01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 11: and they're all still on the right side of thirty.

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01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,759
Speaker 11: So I don't think they're going anywhere. It's just what happens.

1575
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 11: Is is the place I live. You have Tom Brady,

1576
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 11: you know, went to the Super Bowl nine times, so

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01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 11: everybody just wants to compare it with him on Mahomes

1578
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 11: and it's not fair to the younger guys who still

1579
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 11: have a lot left. And Austin, I can't agree with

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01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 11: you more about Philip Rivers. He makes me nervous watching him.

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01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 11: I mean, he's just so jittery. And like the reason

1582
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 11: I like Borrow so much is how cool and Tom

1583
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 11: instead of be pleasing, he is to watch like Tony.

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Speaker 11: I think you might agree with me on this. If

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Speaker 11: you had like a tenth grader in high school who

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01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 11: is a QUB prospect, you'd probably say go watch number nine.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he's quiet, perfectly right, confident.

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Speaker 11: Yes, yeah, everything the footwork is impeccable. Just this is

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Speaker 11: a clinic. This is like Tom Brady. I say it

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Speaker 11: all the time, He's Baby Brady. But Philip Rivers to me,

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Speaker 11: is like watching Elaine Bennison dance, you know, in Vintall.

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01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 11: This is just very Turkey jerky. And if I was

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Speaker 11: to equate these guys, I always like to compare quarterbacks

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01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 11: to pilots. So if I get Hunt on an airplane,

1595
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 11: then I see Burrows the captain. I'm like, this thing's

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01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,520
Speaker 11: gonna go fine, it's gonna land safely. He'll be selling Sullenburger.

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Speaker 11: With Philip Rivers. I don't know. He might be Denzel

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Speaker 11: Washington in flight, laying anything upside down. A lot of chaos,

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Speaker 11: you know. So I'm not anxious to really see him play.

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Speaker 11: He just he makes me nervous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's fair. I'm one hundred percent with you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, with you it is.

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Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to watch because again, I Austin, you

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01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 3: mentioned yesterday with Rivers that I believe he was running

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01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 3: and coaching the same system that India is running right now.

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01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 2: Yeah's you're familiar with A. J. Watt that he was

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01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 2: running the Shane stike In offense, and him and Shane

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01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 2: Stike and were together when he was in San Diego

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01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 2: years ago. And apparently he had been calling Shane Stike

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01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 2: in every week and going over film and stuff with

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01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 2: over the course of their high school season. Because he's

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01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 2: coaching his son, who's a junior in high school. And uh, yeah,

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01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 2: so he's pretty familiar with everything that they're trying to run.

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Speaker 11: He's got a loving kids, right, so he's got an

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Speaker 11: offense all ready to go.

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01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 2: They can play a grand kid. Say they could play

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Speaker 2: pick up basketball five on five.

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01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 11: And they did be eleving kids are driving it back

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01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,600
Speaker 11: and playing in the NFL. I mean, he's probably like,

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01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 11: let me go in where in Indianapolis is far away

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Speaker 11: from right now. But yeah, I mean, God bless him.

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01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 11: I mean he's he's a likable guy, but he's just

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Speaker 11: jittery man. And I also think Joe Flackler should be

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01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 11: the bigger than the quarterback of the NFL, and you

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Speaker 11: need a quarterback just called Joe.

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Speaker 2: I wonder.

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Speaker 3: I wondered that, Like, did Indy at all reach out

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Speaker 3: to the Bengals and and inquire about Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 2: That's that's to be fascinating to me. I mean, they

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Speaker 2: can't trade it, right, and now you just have to.

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Speaker 5: I mean I wouldn't give him up.

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01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 11: I wouldn't give him up only because if something, if

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01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 11: Joe has right, if you needed something to come in,

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01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 11: and also I would love to see him back here

1635
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 11: next year as the background. I don't know if he

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01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 11: wants to be a backup going forward, but this would

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01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 11: be a perfect spot for him and he can again.

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01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 11: I think he's seen some changes in Burrow's game the

1639
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 11: last two games, getting rid of the ball a little

1640
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 11: quick there, maybe watching Joe Flacco and wants himself to that.

1641
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Speaker 11: So I think that he'd be a great older quarterback

1642
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 11: mentor that type of thing.

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Speaker 5: For for Borrow going forward.

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Speaker 3: Yep, completely agreed, John, Thank you so much, man, have

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01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 3: a great day, ye you too.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: We will break our third and final hour is next

1648
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 3: and it kicks off with Jeff Carr from the Lockdown

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Speaker 3: Reds Podcast on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike Sincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: mine today. This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's Sports station.

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Speaker 3: It is our number three. We think, as you heard right,

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Speaker 3: there are friends at Penn Station. Thank you for listening.

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01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 3: Let's get our number three underway. Let's do so by

1658
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 3: talking to our good friend from the Lockdown Reds podcast

1659
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 3: and a guy you just got to check in on

1660
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 3: after what has transpired in the last twenty four or

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01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 3: so hours. Jeff Carr is joining us right now.

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01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 5: Hi, Jeff, Tony Haustin. It's really good to hear your voices.

1663
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 5: You guys seem like some dudes that know how to

1664
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 5: spend money outside of Middletown.

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01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 2: Jeff, here's my issue, here's my issue.

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01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 3: On Sunday, the Bengals went up by ten with under

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01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 3: nine minutes left in the game, and I allowed myself

1668
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:01,679
Speaker 3: for a moment to believe. I believe that it would

1669
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,679
Speaker 3: be different on Sunday, and then the Bengals broke my heart.

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01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 3: And I had heard coming into this week a lot

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01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 3: of Kyle Schwarber talk and could this be the domino

1672
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 3: that finally falls? And I was a little bit on

1673
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 3: the fence. And then yesterday, as I got into the studio,

1674
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:21,799
Speaker 3: I watched a video on your ex and it seemed

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01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 3: like you were believing. It seemed like with all the

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01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 3: conversation that was going on around Kyle Schwarber, that maybe

1677
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 3: this was more than just a rumor, maybe this was

1678
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 3: more than just kicking the tires, Maybe this can actually happen.

1679
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 3: And I did the same thing I did Sunday, and

1680
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 3: I allowed myself to believe, and it felt as if

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01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 3: moments later the world came crashing down again. Your reaction,

1682
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 3: let's start with that. Your reaction seeing the Swarber deal

1683
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 3: to the Phillies, what is being reported that that deal

1684
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 3: is worth, and the reports of what the Reds offered

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01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:56,719
Speaker 3: Kyle Schwarber.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the thing that I had come to the conclusion

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01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 5: of on that video, Tony, was that it felt like

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01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 5: ninety nine percent of this was done, but it's clear

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01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 5: that the one percent that was left was one hundred

1690
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 5: percent of the matter, you know, doing a little bit

1691
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 5: of John Madden math here for you on this Wednesday.

1692
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 5: When it comes to the money, the Reds were outbid

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01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 5: by twenty five million total dollars, and some people want

1694
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 5: to say, well, you know, it's thirty million dollars, thirty

1695
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 5: million dollars per year compared to twenty five million dollars

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01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 5: per year. Kind of feels like the Reds were in

1697
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 5: the ballpark and it's like, yeah, but that's like saying

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01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 5: that they were setting up in the five hundred section

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01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 5: and the Phillies were down on the field. Because you're

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01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 5: talking about another twenty five million dollars. That's basically an

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01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 5: entire year, a year's worth of money that he is

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01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:49,600
Speaker 5: going to get from Philadelphia as opposed to Cincinnati. And

1703
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 5: it's clear that they really felt as though some sort

1704
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 5: of local drawl, call it the will of the force

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01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 5: or something in Middletown, it was going to cause him

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Speaker 5: to take less money.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know where they.

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01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 5: Got this from, because every reporter I saw was saying

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01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 5: thirty million, thirty million, thirty million. Some people said twenty eight,

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01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 5: but most people were saying thirty million, and for them

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01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 5: to go twenty five just makes me. It makes me

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01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 5: wonder how serious they were. But then what they said

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01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 5: after that is really what it's really what flattened me.

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01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 5: Like I felt like then getting to the playoffs was

1715
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,600
Speaker 5: fun in the way that they lost stunk, but I

1716
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 5: didn't feel this flattened as I feel right now.

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Speaker 3: Well, I want to get to that comment in just

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01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 3: a moment. Let me ask you this first. If you

1719
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 3: think that the Reds came in with the exact same

1720
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 3: offer that the Phillies did, do you think Kyle Swumber

1721
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 3: would have chosen Cincinnati. I mean, obviously we don't know that,

1722
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 3: but do you think if the money was the exact

1723
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 3: same would he be a Red?

1724
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 5: One hundred percent? Yeah, I think that there's a lot

1725
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 5: of folks that are reporting, you know, man, he just

1726
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,879
Speaker 5: didn't want to leave. He was really comfortable in the clubhouse,

1727
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 5: and he really loves Philadelphia. But that's literally exactly what

1728
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 5: they were saying about his feelings toward coming home. And

1729
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 5: I think that they're saying that with hindsight being the

1730
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 5: determining factor here, I fully believe that he was ready

1731
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 5: to build something here. With the Reds and be a

1732
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 5: part of his hometown team for the rest of his

1733
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 5: career if the money made sense, and the fact that

1734
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 5: they not were only outbid by the Phillies but also

1735
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 5: outbid by the Orioles is just super telling to me.

1736
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 3: And then Jeff, we get the Ken Rosenthal piece and

1737
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 3: the quote was unlike the Orioles, who, by the way,

1738
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 3: have already signed Pete Alonzo to one hundred and fifty

1739
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 3: five million dollar deal, Unlike the Orioles, the Reds are

1740
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 3: not expected to pursue other expensive free agents. They're offered

1741
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 3: to Schwarber, a native of Middletown, Ohio, was tied to

1742
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 3: their belief that his addition would help drive ticket sales.

1743
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 3: That to me, Jeff, is shocking in a sense that,

1744
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 3: holy cow, they actually admitted it, that it's not truly

1745
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 3: about winning, it's more about selling tickets. Your reaction to

1746
01:29:58,160 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 3: the Rosenthal quote.

1747
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 5: I was worried throughout this entire process that the main

1748
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 5: reason that they were ever in on Kyle Schwarber was

1749
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 5: because he was local. And I thought, well, that's silly.

1750
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 5: Nobody could truly believe that. But it's clear that that's

1751
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 5: what they believed, and they said that, well, he drive

1752
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 5: ticket sales and all this other stuff. Pete Alonzo would

1753
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 5: drive ticket sales. Cody Bellinger would drive ticket sales because

1754
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:23,799
Speaker 5: they would help the team.

1755
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 2: Win ticket sales. Yes, that hikes. Yes.

1756
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 5: When they were on streaks in twenty twenty three and

1757
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 5: when they were on a streak this past year, there

1758
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 5: were times when you're just like, let's go down to

1759
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,720
Speaker 5: the ballpark and watch this team. I wasn't going, like,

1760
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 5: obviously you go because you like watching different players, but

1761
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 5: it's because you know it all comes together in a

1762
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 5: winning product. That's why people are down at pay Court

1763
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 5: Stadium every week to watch Joe Burrow. And that's why

1764
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 5: people show up to Reds games whenever they know that

1765
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 5: they're going to win. And the thing for me, Tony,

1766
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 5: is that they could have just said, and they do

1767
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 5: this all the time. They could have just said, we

1768
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 5: thought that this was a legitimate move to make us

1769
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 5: a legitimate contender. No, they chose to say we thought

1770
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 5: this would drive tickets.

1771
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, Like, isn't it kind of amazing how transparent they

1772
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:16,599
Speaker 2: have been.

1773
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's funny because there are times when

1774
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 5: Nikral gives an answer to a question and it's like, Okay,

1775
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 5: he's he's holding his cards close to his vest. Here

1776
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 5: he's got something up asleep. And then there's other times

1777
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 5: where he tells you that Elida la Cruz had one

1778
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 5: leg for two months, and you're like, oh, so you

1779
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 5: think that we wanted to know that, like tell us

1780
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 5: something else. Like there's times where I'm just like, thank

1781
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 5: you for your transparency. You should have told us anything

1782
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 5: else like that. That's what it feels like, And this

1783
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 5: is another one of those examples. Do you think it's

1784
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 5: also part of it? We obviously know the main issue

1785
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 5: is that the ownership has a plan that doesn't and

1786
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 5: does include spending to the best of their abilities to

1787
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 5: try to win. But do you think it's made worse

1788
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 5: by the fact that there's not really an adequate spokesperson

1789
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 5: for the franchise to try to communicate what the plan

1790
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 5: is because of what you just said. I mean, on

1791
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:16,560
Speaker 5: one hand, you've got Phil Castellini saying where are you

1792
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 5: gonna go? And on the other hand you've got Nick

1793
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 5: Krawl you know, depending on which way the wind is

1794
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 5: blowing that day. Yeah, I mean, we've got a lot

1795
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:27,640
Speaker 5: of humdingers from Nick Krawl, you know, the peaks in

1796
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 5: the Valley's comment, the break even comment, you know, the

1797
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:33,759
Speaker 5: kind of things that really drive inspiration around Red's Country,

1798
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 5: really really gets people to the ticket booth. No, you're

1799
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 5: right like that, that seems to be the biggest problem

1800
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,679
Speaker 5: here and I see that sometimes, like looking at other teams.

1801
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 5: With the Yankees, anytime Brian Cashman gets in front of

1802
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 5: a microphone, Yankees fans just collectively grown because he says

1803
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:55,680
Speaker 5: whatever comes to his mind. And that that's not necessarily

1804
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 5: what Nick Krawl does. But it feels as though they

1805
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 5: craft these messages that they I think, well, we're being

1806
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 5: transparent and we're being honest with the fan base, but

1807
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 5: the honesty that they're giving us is just absolutely depressing

1808
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 5: because they have told us over this last week that

1809
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:14,560
Speaker 5: they will try for somebody who grew up here, and

1810
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 5: if they didn't grow up here, then we're not going

1811
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 5: to pay that much for them, because for some reason,

1812
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 5: growing up here is what leads to winning baseball or something.

1813
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 5: And while I love a local hometown, again, I just

1814
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 5: want to see some winning baseball. And it feels as

1815
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 5: though there are three ways that you can build a team.

1816
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 5: You draft and develop you sign free agents, and you

1817
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 5: make trades and said we were actively shunning two of

1818
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 5: those three things.

1819
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 3: I'm fascinated if they actually believe the stuff they're saying

1820
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 3: half the time, Like Moe brought this up off air today, Jeff,

1821
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 3: if you are a fan and you're legitimately thinking about

1822
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 3: buying tickets or buying a ticket package, and you're that

1823
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 3: fan and you say, well, I'm in if they get

1824
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 3: Kyle Schwarber, but I'm not buying that package if they

1825
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 3: were to land Pee Alonzo, Like.

1826
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 2: Do the Reds actually believe that that's the thing?

1827
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 4: To me?

1828
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 3: Like, if I'm choosing to buy tickets, I'm choosing to

1829
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:12,559
Speaker 3: buy because I want to go see a winning product,

1830
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 3: and whether that's Kyle Schwarber, which is a cool story

1831
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 3: because he's from Middletown, or a guy from Pete Alonzo

1832
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 3: or anyone else that helps this team win. It's not

1833
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:23,639
Speaker 3: like I'd be like, yep, I was buying with Swarber,

1834
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:24,839
Speaker 3: but now I'm out with Alonzo.

1835
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 2: Do they believe that?

1836
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 5: I have a hard time arguing against it, To be

1837
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:34,639
Speaker 5: honest with you, Like the way that they have presented

1838
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 5: themselves these last couple of days is just so silly,

1839
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 5: like there were so many people you and me and

1840
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 5: Mo and maybe Austin. I don't know. Sometimes I don't

1841
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 5: know what Austin's thinking, but I'd like to think that

1842
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 5: Austin was in on this too. That man at Schwarber's here,

1843
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 5: I'm buying a jersey, I'm buying something from sensy shirts.

1844
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 5: I'm buying some kind of Kyle Schwarber memorabilia. I saw

1845
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 5: people talking about man signing up for season decats, Let's go.

1846
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 5: There was so much excitement and then immediately it was

1847
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 5: crushed and now everyone is mad again. And nobody has

1848
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:13,600
Speaker 5: that kind of ability in Major League Baseball like the

1849
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:17,639
Speaker 5: Cincinnati Reds to drum up that sort of feeling only

1850
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:18,600
Speaker 5: to squash it.

1851
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 2: Now that being said, the reports out about to tell

1852
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 2: Marte and the Red's interest in that, how much are

1853
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 2: you buying that?

1854
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:34,680
Speaker 5: I would like to And I think if this were

1855
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 5: a few years ago, I would have Guys. I love

1856
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:40,679
Speaker 5: the Reds, I really do. But this whole like super

1857
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 5: optimism thing has really gotten beaten down over the last

1858
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 5: couple of years. Man, Like, looking at this rumor, it's

1859
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 5: nice to tell Marte all star last two years, Silber

1860
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 5: slugger last two years. Even Brandon Law from the Tampa

1861
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 5: Bay Rays, he hit thirty bombs last year. These are

1862
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:00,640
Speaker 5: the kind of guys that the Reds should be. But

1863
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 5: there's a part of me and there's a question, and

1864
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that I firmly believe this question, that

1865
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 5: this question is probably in your minds too. Is this

1866
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:14,759
Speaker 5: rumor out there to soften the blow from yesterday? Because

1867
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 5: they did a lot of damage yesterday, and I think

1868
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 5: they know that, and I think they've got to come

1869
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:22,639
Speaker 5: back with, well, we talked to these guys or these

1870
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:26,680
Speaker 5: teams about these players, and so maybe that's there, But

1871
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 5: it feels like if it is there, they're just starting

1872
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 5: those negotiations and we know how that goes with Nick

1873
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 5: Crawl and trade negotiations. If it happens, we'll see you

1874
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 5: in May.

1875
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 3: That's the thing like to me, Like and Austin made

1876
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:42,600
Speaker 3: this point today. Is it legit interest in Marte or

1877
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:44,599
Speaker 3: is it man we messed up so bad yesterday If

1878
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 3: we just leaked that we're linked to him, maybe people

1879
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 3: all think that we're now trying to kick the can.

1880
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 3: But you just told us yesterday that you're not kicking

1881
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 3: the can. On anybody else because you wanted to just

1882
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:58,080
Speaker 3: put fans in the stands instead of actually win baseball games.

1883
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:02,759
Speaker 3: If it were to come Fui, if Marte did work out, Jeff,

1884
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 3: what would that require in your opinion, the Reds giving

1885
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 3: up That.

1886
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 5: Would be a tough one because he is He's thirty

1887
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:12,680
Speaker 5: two years old, so it's not as if he's like

1888
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 5: a prospect anymore or somebody who's like just entering his prime.

1889
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 5: He's in the middle of it, maybe on the twilight

1890
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 5: of it, but he does have six years left the

1891
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:24,599
Speaker 5: team control. At just over one hundred million dollars, that's

1892
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 5: still well within the price range that the Reds presented

1893
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 5: that they were willing to accept in some cases. So

1894
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 5: I could see this working out, but you would probably

1895
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 5: have to give up a decent bit to get him.

1896
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 5: I don't necessarily know that it would require Hunter Green,

1897
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 5: but it would require some names that we know. They're

1898
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:46,920
Speaker 5: not gonna dig down deep in Daytona or the or

1899
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 5: the Dominican Summer League and grab a few guys and

1900
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 5: throw them at Arizona's way and get catell Marquee. But

1901
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:56,640
Speaker 5: they will have to give up some pieces that you

1902
01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 5: could conceivably see playing next year in order to acquire him.

1903
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 5: And then on top of that, he plays second base.

1904
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,680
Speaker 5: I don't know about you, but that's not in the outfield, right,

1905
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 5: and that's that's not first or third. Like we're we're

1906
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:15,760
Speaker 5: pretty bullish about the guy that's currently at second base, sir?

1907
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 5: Are we talking about moving Matt McLain, Like you know,

1908
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:21,639
Speaker 5: we we broached this subject this last offseason a little

1909
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 5: bit tongue in cheek. Matt McClain played center field at UCLA.

1910
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:28,479
Speaker 5: Is that what we're going to be talking about this offseason?

1911
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 5: Because it kind of feels like you quote unquote fill

1912
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 5: a hole in the lineup, but you also add a

1913
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:35,599
Speaker 5: question to the outfield.

1914
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 2: So now that they pivot back to the break even

1915
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 2: strategy and the same payroll as a year ago strategy,

1916
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 2: is there any realistic option out there that would make

1917
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 2: this team better than it was a year ago that

1918
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:54,639
Speaker 2: that either that fills any of those holes?

1919
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 5: If I base, because you know, well we all know

1920
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 5: that Charlie Goldsmith is the goat, and so with him

1921
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 5: saying that, you know, the Reds are going back to

1922
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 5: their idea of five to ten million dollars and that's

1923
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 5: what they got to spend, then they need to go

1924
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 5: give that money to Reece Hoskins right now because Reee

1925
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:15,559
Speaker 5: Hoskins has the power that they need, assuming that he's healthy,

1926
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:18,560
Speaker 5: which once again, this guy falls within the Reds wheelhouse

1927
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 5: right of a guy coming off of injury plague seasons

1928
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 5: who was once good and once really powerful. Let's see

1929
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 5: if we can get that back. But if that's all

1930
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Speaker 5: that they've got to offer, that's who they're looking at

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Speaker 5: is Reece Hoskins, and so he is available. There's a

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Speaker 5: lot of projections that have his contract being like a

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Speaker 5: one year, ten million dollar thing. Go get that ten

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Speaker 5: million dollars. We can figure out the bullpen stuff from within.

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Speaker 5: I feel like the Reds have a lot of talent

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01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 5: there and there's a lot of guys with unrealized potential,

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01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:48,639
Speaker 5: and then you could work with that through the season.

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Speaker 5: If there are holes, you could make a trade here

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01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 5: or there. But when it comes to this lineup, you

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01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:57,640
Speaker 5: cannot go to Goodyear in February and say that the

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01:39:57,720 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 5: lineup we had last year is good enough for this.

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Speaker 5: You've got to add at least one more guy to it.

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Speaker 5: Go get Reeese Hoskins right now.

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Speaker 3: Lastly, before we let you go, Jeff, there is growing

1945
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Speaker 3: concern about a lockout for the twenty twenty seven MLB season.

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01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 3: How much are the Reds or how much are teams

1947
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,839
Speaker 3: in baseball operating in that sense of understanding that lockout

1948
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Speaker 3: and does that go into any of the decision making

1949
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Speaker 3: coming up for the twenty twenty sixth year.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I think it's prevalent through Major League Baseball right now.

1951
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Speaker 5: The only team that doesn't seem bothered by is, of course,

1952
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Speaker 5: the Dodgers, because money is not a problem in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 5: But even the Chicago Cubs have said, like Craig Council

1954
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:38,680
Speaker 5: was talking at the Winter Meetings the other day and

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01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 5: said that he is excited about the playing time that

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Speaker 5: young guys are going to get this year on the

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Speaker 5: Chicago Cubs, And I'm like, that's the second biggest or

1958
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Speaker 5: third biggest, however you look at it market in America.

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Speaker 5: So there should be no reason why the Cubs are

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01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 5: sitting on their hands and letting guys walk or letting

1961
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 5: guys go to other teams they could be signing. If

1962
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:05,320
Speaker 5: the Cubs feel this way, that's a feeling amongst all

1963
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Speaker 5: of Major League Baseball that they are worried about what's

1964
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 5: going to happen next year, and I think that they're

1965
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,880
Speaker 5: posturing their strategy that's going on with this, and there's

1966
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Speaker 5: a really good chance that after we come out of

1967
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 5: the CBA we do see more spending. But that's what's

1968
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:21,960
Speaker 5: really had me wondering about this year, and the fact

1969
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 5: that the Red's even made an offer to Kyle Schwarber. Actually,

1970
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Speaker 5: that's the only part of it that surprises me in

1971
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:29,759
Speaker 5: a good way that they were in on that, because

1972
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 5: it really feels like they have been posturing themselves to

1973
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Speaker 5: the point that they don't have guaranteed money on the

1974
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 5: books after this CBA is over, because all it is

1975
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Speaker 5: right now is Hunter Green and Kee Brian Hayes, and

1976
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:43,760
Speaker 5: so if they add more to that, it almost feels

1977
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 5: a little bit surprising. But yeah, I think that that

1978
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 5: has kind of overshadowed all of this stuff right now

1979
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:52,479
Speaker 5: because the guys that have the big time contracts are

1980
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 5: going to the teams that can print money and just

1981
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 5: hand it to them ten fifteen years down the road.

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Speaker 3: Interesting time and an interesting time to be a Cincinnati

1983
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Speaker 3: Reds fan. By the way, first baseball team. A lot

1984
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 3: of pride here in this fan base, fan base that's

1985
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:10,720
Speaker 3: ready to rally around note any type of winning. Just

1986
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 3: just want to win, and we'll support winning and we'll

1987
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 3: buy tickets if you're winning.

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Speaker 2: I have one more question for Jeff. Actually, jeff Our

1989
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 2: friend Chad Dotson posted on Twitter last night that the

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Speaker 2: Reds are not a professional sports franchise, They're a lifestyle brand.

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Speaker 2: What's your reaction to that.

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Speaker 5: It's hard to argue. It kind of feels that way

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Speaker 5: at the moment where it's like, all right, if we're

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01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:39,720
Speaker 5: going to focus on guys who are more local, and

1995
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 5: that's the guys that we really want to stretch for

1996
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 5: and sort of build on our local brand. I always

1997
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:48,280
Speaker 5: think of this one team, and I don't know if

1998
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 5: it's changed. It was years ago that I had read

1999
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:53,080
Speaker 5: about this, but it was a Spanish league soccer team

2000
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 5: over in the oh. What do they call the La

2001
01:42:57,320 --> 01:43:02,559
Speaker 5: Liga Siria no La Liga, that's right, Italian La Liga.

2002
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:08,360
Speaker 5: That was real associated ad and they only filled their

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01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:11,960
Speaker 5: roster with players who lived within a fifty mile radius

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01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 5: of the stadium. And I'm like, if this is where

2005
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 5: we are going with Major League, we got some, we

2006
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 5: got some interesting it is it certainly certainly is and

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Speaker 5: I would Yeah, lifestyle brands really hard to argue.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Damn, it's not hard to argue.

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01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:37,920
Speaker 3: There's always something going on around the Cincinnati Reds, and

2010
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,320
Speaker 3: for you covering the Reds, what's the easiest way for

2011
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 3: listeners to follow along with everything you get going on?

2012
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Speaker 3: And uh, the enjoyment you take in watching what transpires

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Speaker 3: here with this organization.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I'm all over it on social media. Don't you

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01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 5: follow me at Jeff Carr with three fs on x

2016
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 5: I'm also on TikTok that same name, and you can

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01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 5: follow the show everywhere you get your podcasts, including the

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Speaker 5: iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Jeff, thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: Hang in there, buddy, hang in there. We'll talk, so

2022
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 2: we'll get there, guys. Oh yeah, Christmas is coming soon, Jeff,

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01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 2: enjoy the holiday season.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: That is a Jeff Carr. Wow, he kept the Go

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01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:18,719
Speaker 2: Reds in there, kept the Go Reds man. I appear

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Speaker 2: I respect that. Let's break, Let's come back.

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Speaker 3: Plenty more still to go in our number three, including

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Speaker 3: an excerpt of what Jimmy V said in his original

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Speaker 3: x SP speech. As it is Jimmy V Week happening

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Speaker 3: right now with the V Foundation. The Jimmy V Classic

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01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 3: was last night. We'll get to that before quick hits

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01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 3: a little bit more on the football side when we

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01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:45,040
Speaker 3: come back ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station after It's

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Speaker 3: really what every sport fan needs right now in Cincinnati,

2036
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:51,719
Speaker 3: just a little angel ridge from Jeff Henry. Holiday season

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01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 3: is around us, is upon us. Sometimes we just need

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01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:58,800
Speaker 3: to sit back, put a little Jeff Henry on the radio.

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01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 3: It is said from Indianapolis, Austin that Philip Rivers is

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01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 3: an option to start the game on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I did see that they activated Brett Rippon. Brett Rippan

2042
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:19,439
Speaker 2: moved to the active roster. So Rippin or Rivers, I

2043
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 2: would imagine it's.

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Speaker 3: Going to be Rivers. You don't go through all this

2045
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:26,639
Speaker 3: for it not to be Rivers. I've seen excerpts from

2046
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:29,679
Speaker 3: his from his press conference. It seems like he's handled

2047
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 3: everything with the media well. I think they joked about

2048
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:33,960
Speaker 3: his what his plane weight is, and He's like, I

2049
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 3: don't know. You can make the argument that Philip Rivers

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01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 3: has never lost a press conference.

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Speaker 2: No, what's your plane weight?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:43,720
Speaker 2: I think I can't wait for you know, several years

2054
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:45,599
Speaker 2: from now, Brett Rippan will be on like a random

2055
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 2: podcast and they'll ask him about his twenty twenty five season.

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01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Starts with the Bengals. Burrow gets hurt, Jake Browning, then

2058
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 2: he gets cut, Joe Flacco shows up, goes to Indianapolis.

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01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 2: You already have this nonsense that's going on with their

2060
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 2: quarterback room. And then Philip Rivers happens, and I bet

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01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 2: that's just a heck of a year. Yeah, b oh.

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Speaker 3: Brett rippon other NFL news, The Commander's Jade and Daniels

2063
01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 3: will be out against the Giants with the elbow re injury.

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01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 3: We talk about this Burr all the time. If you're

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01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:23,600
Speaker 3: the Commander's Austin, do you just sit him down for

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Speaker 3: the rest of the year.

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Speaker 5: I think so.

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Speaker 3: I mean, at this point, I don't have anything, nothing

2069
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Speaker 3: else to play for. And the Kansas City Chiefs Travis

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01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 3: Kelcey on his latest edition of their New Heights podcast,

2071
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Speaker 3: coming off a game first time in his thirteen year career,

2072
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Speaker 3: he finished the game with more drops than receptions. He said, quote,

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Speaker 3: you put in all the bleeping work and hope it

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01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 3: pays off. And right now, just for whatever bleeping reason

2075
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 3: the little things. I don't have an answer, can't find

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01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 3: the answer, says Travis Kelcey.

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Speaker 2: By the way, my quarterback tears, I have three really

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01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:02,200
Speaker 2: top number one tier is Burrow, Stafford and Mahomes.

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Speaker 10: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Then there's a gap and it's Josh Allen. It's not

2081
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 2: a big gap, but it's Josh Allen. Then there's a

2082
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:12,800
Speaker 2: decent sized gap and it's Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield, Jared Goff, Jalen Hurts, Jordan Love, Drake May.

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Speaker 2: And then there's a pretty sizable gap and there's everybody else.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like gap two? Those quarterbacks can still win,

2086
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 3: but they need things around them to help. I think

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01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 3: so yeah. And I have Lamar there just because he's

2088
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 3: clearly control. But how far off is Drake May? I

2089
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:37,120
Speaker 3: feel like everyone is on and I get he's an

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Speaker 3: MVP candidate. How far from that top tier is Drake May?

2091
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:43,360
Speaker 3: Or is it just still because it's so new still early?

2092
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 3: You got to see a lot still early? I agree,

2093
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:48,240
Speaker 3: but those top that top tier, which I agree with.

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01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,680
Speaker 3: Those are quarterbacks that elevate everyone around you and give

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01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:52,120
Speaker 3: you a chance no matter what the rest of the

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01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:52,640
Speaker 3: roster is.

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Speaker 2: I feel like Allen and Jackson kind of go back

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01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:58,679
Speaker 2: and forth sometimes from the top tier to the tier

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01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:00,680
Speaker 2: they're in. It's hard to feel like with.

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Speaker 3: With Herbert just because of the injuries as well, that

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Speaker 3: you never really get a full understanding.

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Speaker 2: But and he blew off Laura Rutledge. Yeah, that was weak,

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Speaker 2: or he tried to that was weak.

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Speaker 3: What's not weak is a tradition I've had every year

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Speaker 3: since I can remember, and that is listening to Jim

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Speaker 3: Valvano and his SB speech as he was battling cancer.

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Speaker 3: And whether you're battling it, you know someone that's battling it,

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Speaker 3: or just going through ups and downs in life. I

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Speaker 3: always think that there are things we can draw from

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Speaker 3: the great Jim Valvano and what he had to say.

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Speaker 3: So when we come back in honor of V Week,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna play a little bit of what Jimmy V

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Speaker 3: had to say, and after that we'll get to Moegar.

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Speaker 3: All happening next ESBN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 8: Station WCKY Cincinnati, and iHeartRadio Station Guaranteed Human ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 13: I heard radio, Hey it's Moeger This holiday season.

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Speaker 2: Let's welcome back since he three to sixty.

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, a service of Penn Station.

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Speaker 3: It's V Week, the V Foundation Jim Valvano, The Jimmy

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Speaker 3: V Classic was last night. V Week goes until December fourteenth.

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Speaker 3: There are ways that you can make an impact. V

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Speaker 3: dot org slast donate, But this is not about asking

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Speaker 3: you to go donate. This is about something that I

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Speaker 3: think is appropriate for all seasons of life, whether you're

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Speaker 3: dealing with an illness, someone you know is dealing with

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Speaker 3: an illness, or you're just going through highs and lows

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Speaker 3: that that happened in everyday life, especially in today's world.

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Speaker 3: It's something my dad did with me every year. We

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Speaker 3: would sit down, we'd glue ourselves to the TV, and

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Speaker 3: we'd listen to the famous Jim Valvano sp speech. And here,

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Speaker 3: in honor of that, in honor of V Week, in

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Speaker 3: honor of Jim Valvano and everything going on in life,

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Speaker 3: here is a couple minutes of what Jim Valvano had

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Speaker 3: to say in that historic speech.

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Speaker 7: Now, also, I don't have one of those things going

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Speaker 7: with the que cards, so I'm gonna speak longer than

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Speaker 7: anybody else has spoken tonight.

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Speaker 2: That's the way it goes.

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Speaker 12: Time.

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Speaker 7: Time is very precious to me. I don't know how

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Speaker 7: much I have left, and I have some things that

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Speaker 7: I would like to say. Hopefully at the end I'll

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Speaker 7: have something that will be important to other people too,

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Speaker 7: But I can't help it now. And I'm fighting cancer.

2145
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:28,320
Speaker 7: Everybody knows that. And people ask me all the time

2146
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:31,000
Speaker 7: about how you go through your life and how's your day,

2147
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 7: And nothing is changed for me.

2148
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 2: As Dick said, I'm a very emotional, passionate man. I

2149
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:36,680
Speaker 2: can't help.

2150
01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:39,919
Speaker 7: But that's being the son of Rocco and Angelina Valvano.

2151
01:50:40,240 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 7: That just comes with the territory. Right. We hug, we kiss,

2152
01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:46,160
Speaker 7: we love, And when people say to me, how do

2153
01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:49,240
Speaker 7: you get through life? Or each day is the same

2154
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:52,200
Speaker 7: thing to me. There are three things we all should

2155
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:54,360
Speaker 7: do every day. If we do this every day of

2156
01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 7: our life, you're gonna have what a wonderful Number one

2157
01:50:57,120 --> 01:51:00,479
Speaker 7: is laugh you should laugh every day, or to us

2158
01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 7: think you should spend some time in thought. And number

2159
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:07,639
Speaker 7: three is you should have your emotions moved to tears.

2160
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:10,000
Speaker 7: Could be happiness or joy, but think about it. If

2161
01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:14,080
Speaker 7: you laugh, you think and you cry, that's a full day.

2162
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:16,599
Speaker 7: That's a heck of a day. You do that seven

2163
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:19,360
Speaker 7: days a week, you're gonna have something special.

2164
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:21,720
Speaker 6: And so.

2165
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:26,599
Speaker 7: I can't help I rode on the plane up today

2166
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:30,280
Speaker 7: with Mike Skizhevski, my good friend and a wonderful coach.

2167
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 7: Where people don't realize he's a ten times better person

2168
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 7: than he is a coach, and we know he's a

2169
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:37,080
Speaker 7: great coach. He's meant a lot to me in these

2170
01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 7: last five or six months of my battle. But when

2171
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:41,320
Speaker 7: I look at Mike, I think we compete against each

2172
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:42,120
Speaker 7: other's as players.

2173
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:44,240
Speaker 2: I coached against them fifteen years.

2174
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:46,560
Speaker 7: And I always have to think about what's important in

2175
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:48,920
Speaker 7: life is to think, to me, the three things where

2176
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:50,680
Speaker 7: you started, where you are, and where you're gonna be.

2177
01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 7: Those are three things that I try and do every day.

2178
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:54,880
Speaker 7: And you know, when I think about getting up and

2179
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:56,600
Speaker 7: giving a speech, I can't help it.

2180
01:51:56,920 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 2: I have to remember the.

2181
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:01,240
Speaker 7: First speech I ever gave. I was co at Rutgers University.

2182
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:03,680
Speaker 7: That was my first job. All like, oh, that's a

2183
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:07,919
Speaker 7: wonderful and I was the freshman coach. That's when freshmen

2184
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:11,280
Speaker 7: played on freshman team, and I was so fired up

2185
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:14,800
Speaker 7: about my first job as Lou Holtz coach. Holdt said,

2186
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:16,599
Speaker 7: what was it like the first job you had? Right,

2187
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 7: the very first time you stood in the locker room

2188
01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:22,600
Speaker 7: to give a pep talk. That's a special place, the

2189
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:25,040
Speaker 7: locker room for a coach to give a talk. So

2190
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 7: my idol as a coach was Vince Lombardi. And I

2191
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 7: read this book called Commitment to Excellence by Vince Lombardy.

2192
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 7: And in the book, Lombardi talked about the first time

2193
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:38,560
Speaker 7: he spoke before his Green Bay Packer team in the

2194
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 7: locker room noir perennial losers. And I'm reading this and

2195
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 7: Lombardi said he was thinking should be a long talk,

2196
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 7: a short talk, but he wanted to be emostly said

2197
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:47,400
Speaker 7: be brief, and is what he did. He Normally, you

2198
01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:49,080
Speaker 7: get in the locker room, I don't know, twenty five

2199
01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:51,280
Speaker 7: minutes a half hour before the team takes the field.

2200
01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:53,320
Speaker 7: You do your alexa o's, and then you give the

2201
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 7: great new Rockety talk. We all do speech number eighty four.

2202
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:57,960
Speaker 7: You pull him right out, you get you get ready,

2203
01:52:58,040 --> 01:52:59,720
Speaker 7: get your squad right. Who is the first one I

2204
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 7: ever game? And I read this thing Lombardy. What he

2205
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 7: said was he didn't go in.

2206
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:06,599
Speaker 2: He waited. His team was wondering where is he? Where

2207
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:08,599
Speaker 2: is this great coach? He's not there. Ten minutes he's

2208
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 2: still not there. Three minutes before to take the field.

2209
01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:14,840
Speaker 7: Lombardy comes in, bangs the door open, and I think

2210
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:18,519
Speaker 7: you all remember what great presence he had, right, great presence.

2211
01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 2: And he walked in and he just walked back.

2212
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:22,839
Speaker 7: And forth like this, just walk staring at the players,

2213
01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 7: and he said, all eyes on me.

2214
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:27,400
Speaker 2: I'm reading this in this book and I'm getting the picture.

2215
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:30,000
Speaker 2: This Lombardi before his first game, and he said, gentlemen,

2216
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:31,920
Speaker 2: we will be successful this year.

2217
01:53:32,439 --> 01:53:34,800
Speaker 7: You can focus on three things, and three things only

2218
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:39,600
Speaker 7: your family, your religion, and the Green Bay Packers and

2219
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:40,760
Speaker 7: he and the rest of it.

2220
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:43,639
Speaker 2: They knocked the walls down, the restless history. I said,

2221
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:45,680
Speaker 2: that's beautiful. I'm gonna do that.

2222
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 7: Your family, your religion, and Rutgers basketball.

2223
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:50,640
Speaker 2: That's it.

2224
01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:51,560
Speaker 10: I had it.

2225
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 2: I'm listen.

2226
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:55,719
Speaker 7: I'm twenty one years old. The kids I'm coaching at nineteen,

2227
01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 7: all right, and I'm gonna be the greatest coach in

2228
01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:02,400
Speaker 7: the world. Ex Lombardy and I'm right, and I'm practicing

2229
01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:05,120
Speaker 7: out in right. Besides locking them in the manager telling

2230
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 7: me you got to go in not you, family, religion,

2231
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:08,679
Speaker 7: Ricker's basket.

2232
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:09,880
Speaker 2: All eyes on me.

2233
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 11: I got it.

2234
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:10,640
Speaker 10: I got it.

2235
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:13,439
Speaker 7: And now finally he said three minutes. I said, fine,

2236
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 7: true story. I go to knock the doors open, just

2237
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 7: like the Buddy boom.

2238
01:54:17,439 --> 01:54:21,560
Speaker 2: He didn't know it. I almost broke my arm. I

2239
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:23,280
Speaker 2: was like, you know, it's what I didn't open. Now

2240
01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:23,559
Speaker 2: I'm down.

2241
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:25,680
Speaker 7: The players will looking, you know, coach getting help the

2242
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 7: coach up, help.

2243
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:28,839
Speaker 2: Them out, you know. And now I did like Lombardi.

2244
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:31,080
Speaker 7: I walked back and forth and I was going like

2245
01:54:31,120 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 7: that my arm get the feeling back in it.

2246
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:36,000
Speaker 2: And finally I said, gentlemen, all eyes. I mean these

2247
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 2: kids wanted to play the nineteen let's go.

2248
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 7: I said, gentlemen, will be successful this year if you

2249
01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 7: can focus on three things and three things only.

2250
01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 2: He said, your family, your religion, and the Green Bay Packers.

2251
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:48,760
Speaker 14: I told.

2252
01:54:50,360 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 10: I did that.

2253
01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 13: I remember that.

2254
01:54:56,840 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 7: I remember, I remember where I it came from. It's

2255
01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 7: so important to know where you are, and I know

2256
01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 7: where I am right now. How do you go from

2257
01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:08,320
Speaker 7: where you are the where you want to be? And

2258
01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:11,520
Speaker 7: I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life.

2259
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:14,800
Speaker 2: You have to have a dream a goal. You have

2260
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:15,960
Speaker 2: to willing to work for it.

2261
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:19,400
Speaker 7: I talked about my family. My family is so important.

2262
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 7: People think I have courage. The courage of my family's

2263
01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:25,080
Speaker 7: my wife, Pam, my three daughters here, Nicole, Jamie, LeAnn,

2264
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:32,640
Speaker 7: my mom who is right here too, and and and

2265
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 7: the screen is flashing up there thirty seconds, like I

2266
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 7: can't about that screen right now? Huh, I got, I got,

2267
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:43,320
Speaker 7: I got tumors all over my body. I'm worried about

2268
01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:47,080
Speaker 7: some guy in the back going thirty seconds. Huh, you

2269
01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 7: got a lot of heya love, buddy, you got a life?

2270
01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:57,840
Speaker 2: Well, I think the kid me all right, nut, I got.

2271
01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:01,280
Speaker 7: I just got one last thing. I urge all of you,

2272
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:07,000
Speaker 7: all of you to enjoy your life, the precious moments.

2273
01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:10,200
Speaker 7: You have to spend each day with some laughter and

2274
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 7: some thought to get your emotions going. To be enthusiastic

2275
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 7: every day I have. Ralph Waldo Evers said, nothing break

2276
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 7: if it comes without enthusiasm. To keep your dreams alive

2277
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:24,160
Speaker 7: in spite of problems, whatever, you have to believe, be

2278
01:56:24,240 --> 01:56:26,200
Speaker 7: able to work hard for your.

2279
01:56:26,200 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 2: Dreams to come true, become a reality.

2280
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 3: All right, that's awesome, awesome, stuff it doesn't age. That

2281
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 3: was nineteen ninety three at the SPC Arthur Ash Reward recipient.

2282
01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:39,880
Speaker 3: The v Foundation was created ninety three. Since then, over

2283
01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:42,680
Speaker 3: four hundred and fifty eight million dollars raised for game

2284
01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 3: changing cancer research. Enjoy your life, know where you're at,

2285
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:49,560
Speaker 3: but know where you want to be. Laugh, Think, have

2286
01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:52,680
Speaker 3: your emotions moved to tears? It still holds true, It's

2287
01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 3: it's a part of my holiday season every year. Wanted

2288
01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:57,840
Speaker 3: to share that with you, whether you've heard it, whether

2289
01:56:57,880 --> 01:57:01,120
Speaker 3: you've not heard it. Impactful stuff from from Jim Valvano.

2290
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:05,400
Speaker 3: Mowager will join us next ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

2291
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:06,240
Speaker 13: From the bakery.

2292
01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 1: Now, it's time for a quick hits on Tony Pikes.

2293
01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:13,960
Speaker 2: Since the three sixteen was looking for Mo, Mo's in

2294
01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 2: the building.

2295
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 3: Mo's getting ready for the Mowagger Show, which comes up

2296
01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:19,240
Speaker 3: right after this, but kind enough to join us here

2297
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:21,240
Speaker 3: for a few moments for quick kids, Mo, what's up?

2298
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:22,480
Speaker 3: What are you coming up on the show today?

2299
01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:23,240
Speaker 2: Kind enough?

2300
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:26,800
Speaker 14: Kind enough doing this out of charity, Yes, because there's

2301
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:29,600
Speaker 14: no way this show would be able to get through.

2302
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:31,600
Speaker 13: The final segment without me stopping by.

2303
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:33,640
Speaker 3: And what I feel like is you bring a certain

2304
01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:36,360
Speaker 3: hometown discount near ability. You don't ask for much to

2305
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:38,680
Speaker 3: come on during this segment. You just do it because

2306
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 3: well you know you're you're from the area and you've

2307
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:44,440
Speaker 3: been doing this. So I just assume Taylor Mill Kentucky,

2308
01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:48,040
Speaker 3: well Mo will happily come do this because it's a

2309
01:57:48,120 --> 01:57:50,360
Speaker 3: hometown discount, which is your favorite narrative.

2310
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:54,200
Speaker 14: Mc crona will never leave. He went to Lasou High School.

2311
01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:59,120
Speaker 14: Khys Rover's gonna come here because these were middletown. Uh,

2312
01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 14: we might create a US today, might do one of

2313
01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 14: those shows, create a list of like favorite narratives that

2314
01:58:03,160 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 14: ended up not becoming true. Luke Fickle has kids who

2315
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:08,120
Speaker 14: go to a school here. They don't have schools in

2316
01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:11,120
Speaker 14: places here. His wife likes yoga here. The Reds are poor.

2317
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:14,680
Speaker 14: Reds are poor. I just don't have any money pulling

2318
01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:19,640
Speaker 14: their pockets out. You guys have covered this Reds thing

2319
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:22,520
Speaker 14: from every conceivable angle. I'll try to pick up where

2320
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 14: you left off because it's about making the team better, right,

2321
01:58:28,320 --> 01:58:31,600
Speaker 14: It's about the Reds need mechanically, need to use this

2322
01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:34,240
Speaker 14: offseason to take the Reds from what they were last season,

2323
01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:37,480
Speaker 14: which was barely a playoff team and making a team

2324
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:41,120
Speaker 14: that is capable of contending for a division title and

2325
01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:43,360
Speaker 14: maybe a World Series title, and I think that's going

2326
01:58:43,400 --> 01:58:46,200
Speaker 14: to be really hard. There's still time to do that.

2327
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:49,680
Speaker 14: I'm not sure there's time for them to change their brand.

2328
01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:54,000
Speaker 14: I know what their brand is. Your brand is your reputation.

2329
01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:58,280
Speaker 14: The Reds have cemented their reputation, right or wrong. They

2330
01:58:58,320 --> 01:59:01,040
Speaker 14: have cemented their reputation that they will not go to

2331
01:59:01,120 --> 01:59:03,160
Speaker 14: the end of the earth to be the best in

2332
01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:06,160
Speaker 14: the world at what they do, and I think they

2333
01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:08,520
Speaker 14: have a very uphill battle when it comes to changing that.

2334
01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:12,560
Speaker 14: They may trade for Tel Marte, who's not from Cincinnati,

2335
01:59:12,640 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 14: so I'm not sure how genuinely interested there. They may

2336
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 14: acquire players like the new version of Austin Hayes or

2337
01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:23,040
Speaker 14: the new version of Brady Singer. I'm sure they will

2338
01:59:23,120 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 14: acquire players who have the chance to make the team better.

2339
01:59:27,000 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 14: I think their chance at getting goodwill, I think their

2340
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 14: chance at creating buzz, and frankly, I think their chance

2341
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:36,440
Speaker 14: at dramatically remaking the team came and went with Kyle

2342
01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:38,520
Speaker 14: Swerber resigning with the Philadelphia.

2343
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:41,240
Speaker 3: Surprised how open they were about the process. A little

2344
01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:44,440
Speaker 3: bit of you know, it's more about getting fans to

2345
01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:47,000
Speaker 3: the game. There's those types of comments or breaking even

2346
01:59:47,160 --> 01:59:48,640
Speaker 3: that they've talked about in the offseason.

2347
01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:51,200
Speaker 13: So here's one thing I wonder.

2348
01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:54,680
Speaker 14: Kyle Schwerber comes to visit, and what the Reds try

2349
01:59:54,760 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 14: to convince him is to take a hometown discount, right,

2350
01:59:58,760 --> 02:00:03,920
Speaker 14: take a hometown discount and uh, you know, sign here

2351
02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:07,880
Speaker 14: because you're from here. If you're a Kyle Schwarber, aren't

2352
02:00:07,920 --> 02:00:12,680
Speaker 14: you going you want me to take a discount? I'm

2353
02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:16,120
Speaker 14: not sure about your ability to build the team around

2354
02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:18,360
Speaker 14: me that enables me to win.

2355
02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:20,280
Speaker 2: Like I know the team I was just on will building.

2356
02:00:20,360 --> 02:00:21,240
Speaker 13: These guys want to win.

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Speaker 14: So if your first impression is well, we're crying poor,

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Speaker 14: you go Well, if you're crying poor with me and

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Speaker 14: I had fifty six Dons last year, where else are

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Speaker 14: you gonna? Who else are you asking to take a discount?

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Speaker 14: Like I think when you're I'm trying to think of

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Speaker 14: a good, good comparison here. But if like I don't

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Speaker 14: know that you're the free agent they bring you in

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Speaker 14: and they're trying to tell you that you got to

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Speaker 14: take a discount, that tells me, dude, you're not gonna

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Speaker 14: do everything you can to win. I'll go to Philadelphia,

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Speaker 14: where I feel like maybe it's because they have more resources,

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Speaker 14: but they will do everything they can to win, including

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Speaker 14: pay me the money that I'm looking for that the

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Speaker 14: market dictates I should get.

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's birthday today. Happy birthday, Joe. How about that?

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Speaker 3: Were you surprised to see and hear that that T

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Speaker 3: Higgins is doing some stuff at practice today a little bit?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Or more surprising than Shamar Stewart's partaking in practice today?

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Speaker 3: Who Chamar Stuart tells that they drafted him last year

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Speaker 3: seventeenth overall pick, high upside guy, measurables through the roof, Dude,

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Speaker 3: start to show it? Yeah, I mean like he's gonna

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Speaker 3: have to. Ohsai and Hendrickson aren't going to be on

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Speaker 3: under contract.

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Speaker 14: So we had a loud discussion yesterday about this. They

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Speaker 14: just need to be league average. Okay, I'm going to

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Speaker 14: talk about this today. Yeah, I'm gonna talk about the league.

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Speaker 14: He's just gonna be league average. Is there a perfect

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Speaker 14: way to determine which college football teams should play for

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Speaker 14: a championship?

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Speaker 27: No?

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Speaker 14: So I understand the holes and inconsistencies and I understand

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Speaker 14: Notre Dame's gripe. I'm not sure how many more interviews

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Speaker 14: or press conferences I have to see with the Notre

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Speaker 14: Dame athletic director, but okay, I get it. When I

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Speaker 14: was a kid, they show the national championship via pole

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Speaker 14: like after the ball games, whoever was number one in

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Speaker 14: the AP Top twenty five or the UPI poll. So

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Speaker 14: we had split national champions decided that wasn't good enough.

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Speaker 14: That we had the BCS every year.

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Speaker 2: Not good enough?

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Speaker 13: Okay, fine, college football playoffs sure, not good enough?

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Speaker 2: Four teams, twelve.

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Speaker 14: Team committee knocked? Is I just this is why I

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Speaker 14: like when people complain about this process. It has started

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Speaker 14: to fall on deaf ears for me. Yeah, because literally

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Speaker 14: my entire life, people have been complaining about the process,

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Speaker 14: but the process always.

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Speaker 3: Changes based on UC basketball start to the season. I'd

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Speaker 3: like to revisit the process of expanding the NCAA tournament

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Speaker 3: field to what two.

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Speaker 2: And fifty six?

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Speaker 14: Rick Browing and the Musketeers joins us, Nice, did you

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Speaker 14: watch Clemson BYU last night?

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Speaker 2: So fun?

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Speaker 3: Bearcats play those two teams and Georgia who lost to

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Speaker 3: Clemson ninety seven ninety four?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: How how how do you view, Like, what are some

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Speaker 3: other phrases maybe that are coming close to your next

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Speaker 3: muted social media word. Ooh, that's a very question, Like

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Speaker 3: how close are you to just being done with hometown discount?

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Speaker 13: Maybe because he's from here, that might be.

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Speaker 3: Never think about I think Middletown's fine, but what about

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Speaker 3: what about Middletown?

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Speaker 2: Are you done with Middletown?

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Speaker 13: Love Middletown, Okay, Middletown. I have spent some time in Middletown.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the NFL has shortened the time to

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Speaker 2: pick in the first round of the NFL Draft good

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Speaker 2: from ten minutes to eight minutes.

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Speaker 14: It should be zero minutes. You've had four months to

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Speaker 14: make the pick. It should be here's the draft, Titans

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Speaker 14: or Browns or whoever is on the clock. Who you got, Yeah,

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Speaker 14: you don't need eight more minutes.

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Speaker 13: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: We should put them all up on stage like they

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Speaker 2: do the NBA.

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Speaker 14: I think the draft would be more fun if the

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Speaker 14: team's had one minute between picks. All right, then we

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Speaker 14: see what these teams are really made of.

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