1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Rudolph has gotten fornicated up the Muddy Hallway NonStop. I 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: mean absolutely non stop here in Pittsburgh. So give give 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Rudolph credit for perseverance or maybe make fun of him 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: for being stupid. It's a fine line between clever and stupid. 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: But he is making two point nine mil That's more 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: than me, not as much as Duck makes for being 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: a suitcase pimp let alone when a ring gets put 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: on it, uh in two point nine milk for getting 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: fornicated NonStop, I mean they don't make that in Vegas. 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: And the train kept a rolling. I'm Mark Madden. Welcome 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 1: to the Catalina Wine Mixer. Watch that again last night 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: on Cable eight three three four one two. WXDX is 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: the number to call, or you can follow me on 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: Twitter at Mark madden X. Sunday at Soldier Field in 15 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: Chicago is a battle of the nutty numbers. Talked about 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: that with Tom a little bit goo. Rogers is twenty 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: four and five against the Bears. I think twenty five 18 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: and five including playoffs. I think he beat him once 19 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: in the postseason, but the Steelers are one in twelve 20 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: at Chicago. You see Joe the numbers don't lie, and 21 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: they spelled disaster for somebody on Sunday at Soldier Field. 22 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: And by the way, Mason Rudolph undefeated against Chicago. 23 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,919 Speaker 2: Zero and zero. 24 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: That twenty five and five stuff, the one and twelve stuff, 25 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: It don't matter. Each game is a separate and distinct occurrence. 26 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: Rogers might torture the Bears, but he ain't that guy 27 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: no more. And the Steelers then aren't the Packers now. 28 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: So I mean, don't get you wrong, Rogers gonna get 29 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: out there, get that old feeling against the Bears uniforms, 30 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: and I think it can go good. But I'm still 31 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: picking the Bears. I mean, this game between the Steelers 32 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: and Bears, what's the story of this game? Like I said, 33 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: calls on the fifteens up next, and I will get 34 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: that going, just like I will make fetch a thing 35 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: the number to call eight three, three, four one two WXDX. 36 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm picking the Bears, and I'm leaning toward it being 37 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: not not a rap at a convincing win. And the 38 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: Steelers go back to square one, tied for first downhill 39 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: slide December seventh Day that will live in infamy, or 40 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: maybe the Steelers win because big play Sleigh makes the 41 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: big play that number again eight three three four one 42 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: two wxdx uh. This is where it just gets really 43 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: funny Pirate talk. They almost got Naylor from Seattle. They're 44 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: in on Schwarber, who hit fifty six home runs last 45 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: year for Philadelphia. They're prepared to spend thirty or forty 46 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: million this coming off season. But yesterday they signed Jack 47 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: Sewinsky to a one year deal. That's the kind of 48 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: contract they're willing to sign. That's the kind of player 49 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: they feel they can keep. I mean, why in the 50 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: frig would you keep Jack Fan Sewinsky hit like one 51 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: four some such Like I said, they missed out on Naylor, 52 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: won't get Schober or any of the Japanese guys like 53 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: o or Okada or Great Muda or Hirohito. But at 54 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 1: least they kept Sewinsky one year, one point two five mil. 55 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: Because again, that's the kind of deal the Pirates are 56 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: willing to make. That's the kind of money they're willing 57 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: to pay. Like I've been saying, I believe the Pirates 58 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: are three bats away from greatness, and those bats are 59 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: Babe ruth Ty Cobb and Barry Bonds. 60 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: Uh. 61 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: Penguin was at home versus Minnesota. Gino wants to play 62 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: two more years. Yeah, let's extend Gino and in the 63 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: process turned Kin in the Nick Benino who could be listening? 64 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: So sorry bones? Uh Sid looking for goal number thirteen? 65 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: That's a story. So many more stories with the Penguins 66 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: and the Steelers, Am I right? Like Rogers or Rudolph 67 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: who's gonna play slay? Or Pierre who's gonna play fading 68 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: back to the bushy middle? 69 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: Same as it ever was? Uh? 70 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: So Sid looking for goal number thirteen? Gino well over 71 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: a point per game. Carlson looks like Carlson Well Kindah 72 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: Graves continues his rebirth and I think appearing on the 73 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: show yesterday has to help him in that regard. And 74 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: the Metro Division stinks. It's a heck of a story. 75 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: Stories and finally, and that's why I love it. Finally 76 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: with the Penguins because they were stale as freak two, 77 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: just like the Steelers. Finally, with the Penguins, it's not 78 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: the same old story, but with the Steelers it's bam. 79 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: New little aerosmith riff there. I could do a song 80 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: from that. Let me think. 81 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: Had a winning season. You set the Barlow in and 82 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: out the playoffs with nothing to show. It's the same 83 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: old Steelers. 84 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: Same old song and dance. My friend, that's not bad. 85 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: That's not bad. 86 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: Now get Perry and Whitford to play on it and 87 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: young Blood bring him in. If I had to say 88 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: one negative about the Penguins, aside from I mean, the 89 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: roster's still the roster, it was, Uh, they're gonna need 90 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: to play better five on five. Like I talked to 91 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: Rob Rossy the other day and he pointed out, you know, 92 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: Pierre talks about gold differential being a porn and it is. 93 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: And the Penguins are third in the league right now 94 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: and gold differential and that's incredible, But like Rob pointed out, 95 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: a lot of that's boosted by having the number one 96 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: power play in the league, that gold differential. So they 97 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: probably need to play a little bit better five on five. 98 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 1: That's what I'm seeing anyway, not that they've been terrible 99 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: five on five, but you can't count on the power 100 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: play to be number one all year unless it is. 101 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: I mean, somebody's power play is going to be number 102 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: one all year? Why not theirs? And Kendall's, Well, I 103 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: can't say that because they were right up there before 104 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: Kendall jumped on, and boy, you know it's gonna make 105 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: me mad. And I can feel it coming. I can 106 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: feel it done in my plums. When rare quel comes back, 107 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: Kindle's on the second power play. Mark my words, that 108 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: had be insane. But again, that's the one thing with Muse. 109 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: I think he's a great coach. 110 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 2: Do win really well. 111 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: I think he's more enamored by this start as he 112 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: should be than he should be. This season is about development. 113 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: Make the playoffs, don't make the playoffs, win around, lose 114 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: the first round, win the Stanley Cup. 115 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: You got to develop. That has to be the first priority. 116 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: And Kindall, he's going to run this power play for 117 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: a long time and he's the best at doing it now, 118 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: so let them keep doing it, all right, calling out 119 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: for calls on the fifteens and I will make fetch 120 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: a thing. Uh what's the number? Eight three three four 121 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: to one two WSDX. I'm getting old, guys, I'm getting old. 122 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes I forget the number. By the way, you know 123 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about next week. First off, we'll do 124 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: the cliches, stuff like favorite Thanksgiving foods. They got stuffing 125 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: tonight at the press room turkey and stuff. I can't 126 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: eat it. I awaken what eighty I can't do it, 127 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: I'll do Thursday. I'm taking a break for Thanksgiving, no question, 128 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: no question about that. 129 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: Uh and uh. 130 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk about famous Turkey Bowl stories, like 131 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: you know the football game every neighborhood plays either on 132 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving in the morning or the day after Thanksgiving. We're 133 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: gonna start talking about my my hatred for big trucks 134 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: and guys who have big trucks. 135 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: I was done. 136 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: Should I say where it is because this guy will 137 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: figure out I'm talking about him. 138 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will. 139 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: I was in the parking lot for first Watch here 140 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: in Bridgeville, and there was a guy with the biggest 141 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: truck I've ever seen, which is just annoying as freak, 142 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: and in the in the back of the truck like 143 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: the band of the truck. He had like the biggest 144 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: ATV I've ever seen. That guy a small penis b 145 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: when he plays like softball whatever sport wears number sixty nine, 146 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: No question about that. We got tim Ben's at the 147 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: bottom of the hour one O five to nine. 148 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: A dump do go on t exit one nine. 149 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: This new calls on the fifteens gimmick. It works some days, 150 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: not others it doesn't. We got Nick, We'll get them 151 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: in a second. But I'm gonna keep doing it because 152 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: I just think the whole idea is so fetch a 153 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: couple of things that gonna caught me by surprise. Scooble'm 154 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: gonna get traded. It looks like by Detroit after a 155 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: second straight side young that I'm not surprised by. Because 156 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: he's going into his third year arbitration. He's got a 157 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: lot of value in the trade. You can't hold onto 158 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: him long term most likely, But I'm shock Killy made 159 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: ten point one five mil last year and he agreed 160 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: to that to avoid arbitration. And then, like Tommy Radio 161 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: talked about in the pregame show, I knew the Bears 162 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: had a lot of interceptions, but didn't realize how spread 163 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: around they were. They lead the league in picks that 164 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: Bayard has four excuse me five, right, Edmonds have four each. 165 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean they're the top three in the league. Rogers 166 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: has a rep for protecting the ball. Hit better, hit better. 167 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: Let's go to Nick in the truck. Nick, you're at 168 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: a Mark Madden show. 169 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 4: Hey, Mark, I would say that TK metcalf is not 170 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 4: having the stellar season. But I know yesterday you guys 171 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: were mentioning a lot of he's a bust. I definitely 172 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 4: don't think he's a bust for the Steelers this year. 173 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 4: I just think there's a lot of a lot of 174 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 4: factors that need to be considered with that. 175 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: What are the factors? I mean, I think everybody succeeds 176 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: and fails on their own merits. I understand that he's 177 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: the only thing on the roster even resembling a number 178 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: one receiver, even resembling a number two receiver, and he 179 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: gets double covered. But he's dropped a lot of balls too. 180 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: You think there's a lot of factors that have probably 181 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: affected him negatively. 182 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: But I think there's a lot of things he's done 183 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: that have let himself and the team down. 184 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 5: I do agree with you. 185 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 4: I would not consider it a bust though, because he's 186 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 4: done a lot of good things for the team also. 187 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 4: But he literally thinks to have a true number two, 188 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 4: for instance, they don't have a true number two. No, no, no, no, no. 189 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: You know you're avoiding the question that that defeats your arguments, 190 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: so please do answer it. 191 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: What has he done this has been. 192 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 5: Good about what has he done? 193 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 4: He's had, Yeah, he's had some phenomenal catch and hard 194 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 4: parts of the game. 195 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: How many, because I can only remember one or two? 196 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 1: That's not enough for his money. He's making thirty mil. 197 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: Broad he's getting quarterback money. And if you can't name 198 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: instances specifically, then really, how significant were they? 199 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you this, then what what receiver 200 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 4: in the league switching with him would have the success 201 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 4: that we should have from him without a legit number two, 202 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 4: without a line. 203 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: That allowed Aaron George Pickens were here right now, he'd 204 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: be doing better than DK Metcalf. 205 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 4: That is hypothetical, especially since. 206 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: He didn't do it last year. Pathetical. 207 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: Oh, George Pickens last year was doing better than DK 208 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: Metcalf this year, I know, know the numbers in front 209 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: of me, But he was until he until he went 210 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: goofy midway through the year. 211 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 2: Probably Yeah, I don't know. 212 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 4: I can tell you that this year, when he does 213 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 4: have a team with a legit number two, he's doing 214 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 4: a lot better than me. 215 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: Let me let me tell you what I'm well. 216 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: First off, George Pickens is the legit number two to 217 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: Cede Lamb in Dallas and let me tell you what 218 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: I get tired of, Nick. I get tired of people 219 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: making excuses for Steelers who fail by saying it's not 220 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: their fault. 221 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 5: TJ. 222 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: Watts a bum this year. DK Metcalf's a bust and. 223 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: We can point it, rhyme, reason, good, bad, indifferent about 224 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: why they're failing. But I don't care why they're failing 225 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: because they make too much money to fail. Here's my thing. 226 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 4: I agree with you, but it's not about making an 227 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: excuse for Dk Metcalf. It's about putting Mike Tomlin on 228 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 4: check and not putting a team together to allow his 229 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 4: number one to success. 230 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: Well Rogers, Okay, okay, but but still DK needs to 231 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: be doing better, Brov. 232 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: He needs to be doing better. He just does. And 233 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 2: I'd have fired tom one years ago if that's what 234 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: you mean. 235 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: He's an average coach and incompetent roster assembly, and he 236 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: digs with people who know better except. 237 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: Omar Khan doesn't thank you for the call. Yeah, if 238 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: you want to tell me, it's it's you know, the No. 239 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: Number two I mean, lack of a number two receiver 240 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: isn't why DK Metcalf is dropping a lot of passes. Clang, clang, clang. 241 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: Let me gather up all these bricks and build a 242 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: shelter for the homeless so your mother and sister have 243 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: a place to live. Seriously, I want them out of 244 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: my house by tomorrow. Up next, we're gonna talk to 245 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: Tim Bens. That will also be so fetch one O 246 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: five ninety X. 247 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: Tonight's the Pens face off against the Wild. Game time 248 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: is seven. Our coverage starts at six here every game 249 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: and the best coverage right here on your home of 250 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 3: the Pens one O five nine d X. 251 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: HiT's Bundy diver and I just love good news. Case 252 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: when you got a young. 253 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: Trophy White owes money to I can't even quote the 254 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: big o'bowski right, goodbye d X. 255 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: At one O five nine, it's not time to talk. 256 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: To Steelers with Tim Benz from the Trib. Tim, what 257 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: have you heard about the quarterback situation? Did Roger practice today? 258 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: What do you know? 259 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: Because I'm assuming Rogers is playing, but a few things 260 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: have been said that shead's a little doubt, right, Yeah, I. 261 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 5: Think if Tomlin was one hundred percent sure, he would 262 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 5: have at least come off that way and maybe kind 263 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 5: of casually hinted and kept the door open just to 264 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 5: make Ben Johnson guess. But I think they're still figuring 265 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 5: it out themselves. I keep saying, Mark, this is one 266 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 5: of these situations where if it's fifty to fifty, it's 267 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 5: not that. If Aaron Rodgers is even like thirty seventy, 268 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 5: they're going to try to make him play, get him 269 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 5: to play. He wants to play. I think they are 270 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 5: happy with Mason Rudolph as a backup. But they got 271 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers for games like this in November, when they're 272 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 5: in the in first place, when they're going to Chicago, 273 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 5: where they've never won except one time in nineteen ninety five, 274 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 5: and where he wins all the time. I think that 275 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 5: they are doing whatever they can to get him. And well, 276 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 5: maybe a lot of the populace might say, well, look, 277 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 5: if it is that close, just put Mason in. I 278 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 5: don't think they're of that mind. 279 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 3: No. 280 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: I mean their track record with how they've used Mason, 281 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: what Tomlin thinks of him, that's that indicates no to 282 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: that mind. They benched him for duck, they let him 283 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: go after he got him into playoffs with three straight 284 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: wins that end twenty twenty three, I mean, has Mason 285 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: Rudolf ever really gotten a fair chance from the Steelers? 286 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: And I asked that knowing fair has nothing to do 287 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: with it. 288 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 5: I was just about to say, I think it's what 289 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 5: your definition of fair is and if it has nothing 290 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 5: to do with it, and then I guess he did. 291 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 5: You know, I think, honestly I felt not when. 292 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: They benched him for Duck. That was just not stupid. 293 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 5: That was kind of being blinded by the moment, And 294 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 5: that was I think the ultimate example of we've got 295 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 5: to do whatever it is humanly possible to try to 296 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 5: keep this season streak alive, of never having a low 297 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 5: campaign and. 298 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: Pays when when when Duck just ruined things, he was awful. 299 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, but well, Duck was part of them being in 300 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 5: the playoff chase, and then he fell apart against Buffalo, right, 301 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 5: you know, that was that was the big game that 302 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 5: turned everything when he threw the four interceptions. But you know, 303 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 5: I don't think Mason was good enough at any point 304 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 5: for them to feel comfortable turning over the keys after Roethlisberger. 305 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 5: But you know, maybe they were victims of their own 306 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 5: hype train there where they got a quarterback in the 307 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 5: third round there was some reason to do it based 308 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 5: on Roethlisberger's age and flirting with retirement, and then they 309 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 5: talked themselves into this whole first round grade thing, pumped 310 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 5: him up into something he wasn't and then when he 311 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 5: got in there and it looked like he had a 312 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 5: steeper learning curve than expected, well they did what their 313 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 5: fan base often does, which is they never give a 314 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 5: chance for anybody to get better. You know, he's not 315 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 5: the only guy that's going through that this week. Mark. 316 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 5: I mean another guy who's of a relative age who's 317 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 5: kind of been on that path with them, as James Pierre. 318 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 5: You know, they let him go, he's come back, he's 319 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 5: obviously better, and they apparently still feel more inclined to 320 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 5: go with Darius Slave, who's been here for ten minutes 321 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 5: and is clearly on the down side of his career, 322 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 5: when they may have actually found something with a talented 323 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 5: athletic player that at a very difficult position might just 324 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 5: be a late bloomer. I'd rather be proven wrong there 325 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 5: than them trying to prove themselves right with Sleigh. I 326 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 5: think it's a very similar comp on a bit of 327 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 5: a micro scale, because it's cornerback as opposed to quarterback. 328 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: No, but it's a very legitimate comparison. 329 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: And I can't believe they're going to go with slave, 330 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: but it looks like they are but sticking with Rogers. 331 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: He's been antsying the pocket the last couple of weeks, Tim, 332 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: and now he's got a broken left wrist. 333 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: That's not going to make him hang in there longer, 334 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 2: is it? 335 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 5: No, not at all, And it is also something that 336 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 5: I think has to be brought him. The equation when 337 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 5: you're talking about this, like I said, if it's fifty 338 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 5: to fifty or thirty seventy type of scenario, I mean, 339 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 5: if it's thirty seventy and he wants to get rid 340 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 5: of the ball, he is going to get rid of 341 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 5: the ball. And if he can't, you are welcoming turnovers 342 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 5: against a defense that is very prone at getting them. 343 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 5: You know, you're talking about stripsack. You're talking about him 344 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 5: trying to get rid of the ball too quickly or 345 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 5: maybe when he's not set, just because he doesn't want 346 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 5: to get hit. And this is the best takeaway team 347 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 5: in the NFL right now that he's going up against. 348 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: No. 349 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 5: By the way, it's also a team that almost never 350 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 5: gives the ball back. And one thing that worries me 351 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 5: about this matchup is where the Steelers defense thrives. It's 352 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 5: not the weak points for the offense. The Bears don't 353 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 5: turn it over, the quarterback can move, they don't give 354 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 5: up sacks, and they have a good overall run game, 355 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 5: like not depending on a running back, but a run 356 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 5: game approach. That worries me, even though the Steelers might 357 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 5: been a little bit better there in some cases over 358 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 5: recent weeks. 359 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: Tim and add on that, I think the Steelers on 360 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: defense can be manhandled. I think the Bears have the 361 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: personnel on their own line to do just that. 362 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 5: Their old line has gotten a lot better. You know, 363 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 5: I was talking with somebody today who covers the Bears 364 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 5: from WGN for our podcast, and you know, we went 365 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 5: through a lot of different angles of the team and 366 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 5: one thing you just kept coming back to is how 367 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 5: much better the old line was. Now quickly it got 368 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 5: better in a year, which kind of made me long 369 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 5: and fallen for what I kind of hope the Steelers 370 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 5: offensive line would be this year, where they had that 371 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 5: coalescing of all the young guys coming together at once. 372 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 2: And yeah, it ain't really happened, has it. 373 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 5: No, it's it's not been the same arc as what 374 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 5: has happened with the Bears. 375 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: The Bears offense is way better than the Steelers offense 376 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: number two, running attack, number four overall, maybe that decides that, Tim. 377 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: I think the defenses both lack, but they both could takeaways. 378 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: But the Bear's offense they don't give the ball back, 379 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: and I just think they're more physical, and I just 380 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: think they're more likely to score points. 381 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, that last part is the concerning part to me, 382 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 5: as is the health of the quarterback. Of course. You know, 383 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 5: one thing I really do hope the Steelers do more 384 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 5: often is used that three outside linebacker look. I thought 385 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 5: that was an important component to they win. 386 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: Tailor made for what the Bears are gonna try. 387 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 5: You know, just to try to get in Caleb Williams face, 388 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 5: to try to make him rush throws. I think a 389 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 5: big part of that, two big parts of it. You 390 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 5: can rush her big from the inside. He's adept at 391 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 5: getting there, and I get it. You don't want to 392 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 5: overplay the hand because then it's not a surprise anymore. 393 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 5: But it's also just more effective than a lot of 394 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 5: what they do. And they're kind of what amounts to 395 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 5: base defensive rush package. And the other thing that's helped 396 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 5: it is even with high Smith out, I think they 397 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 5: feel like they can trust Sawyer a little bit more 398 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 5: and he's gotten better in recent weeks. 399 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: To Tim Benz of the trip he's brought to us 400 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: by Calucy Chervallet serving the Pittsburgh area for one hundred 401 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: and seven years, Tim, do you mind the Caleb Williams 402 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: You discussed him briefly a. 403 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 2: Bit ago, and who is Caleb? 404 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: Like? 405 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: I think he's kind of like Lamar, but not really 406 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: and I don't mean that as an insult. I think 407 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of similarity, not as much power, right, 408 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: And when it. 409 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 5: Comes to the running of the football, especially before Lamar 410 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 5: was injured this year, maybe a little bit younger, a 411 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 5: few could run it off of designs like him, and 412 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 5: I think maybe Williams can if you wanted to. But 413 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 5: I think he also wants to be a higher precision, 414 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 5: more pocket oriented passer. You know, Lamar grew into that. 415 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 5: I think Williams saw himself more as that when he 416 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 5: went to USC and when he came out of USC, 417 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 5: you know. So he's a really good athlete. I think 418 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 5: he's got the right coach now, you know, in a 419 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 5: weird way, Mark, You know, this is kind of going 420 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 5: back a little bit with two years now. Uh, you 421 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 5: know when the when the Bears allegedly picked up the 422 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 5: phone and called about the tradeability of Mike Tomlin. Are 423 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 5: Rooney basically said thanks, but no thanks. It's fortunate for 424 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 5: them that they got an offensive minded coach for a 425 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 5: quarterback like that. 426 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: I think Ben Johnson's been the single biggest difference maker there. 427 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, well that in the schedule. You know this, if 428 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 5: the Bears beat the Steelers, it will be their biggest 429 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 5: pelt on the wall, no question, as in that big 430 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 5: a pelt precisely. You know, it's kind of funny. I 431 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 5: was looking at the standings, like, you know, obviously everybody 432 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 5: knows this is a for a for an NFC opponent. 433 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 5: This is a really big game for the Steelers just 434 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 5: because of their circumstances of where they are on their 435 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 5: schedule with Detroit and Buffalo in two games against the 436 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 5: Ravens still looming. But it's also a really big game 437 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 5: for the Bears because if you look at the NFC 438 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 5: right now, they're the third seed. They're leading their division. 439 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 5: But if they should lose at home to Pittsburgh, who 440 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 5: has exactly as many wins in chicag I go against 441 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 5: the Bears, as there have been ally troop victories in 442 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 5: Europe since nineteen thirty six. If they lose to that team, 443 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 5: mark they could be out of the playoff bracket just 444 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 5: like that, from third to eight. Depending on what happens 445 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 5: with the Lions and with the Packers, who are both 446 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 5: playing poor teams this week, they could drop to third 447 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 5: in their own division and eighth in the conference. So 448 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 5: this is a huge game for them, just like it 449 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 5: is for Pittsburgh. 450 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 2: To be fair ten, there's only been one war in 451 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: Europe during that time. 452 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 5: Well to bear, the Steelers haven't gone to Chicago too 453 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 5: often either. 454 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: It involved America anyway. But but yeah, no, no, you're 455 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: right about all that, But the Steelers aren't far from that. 456 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: Like with Houston beating Buffalo last night, that sucks both 457 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: teams more into the wildcard race. And if the Steelers 458 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: fall behind the Ravens, which could happen you know, on 459 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: December seventh today, that will live in infamy. 460 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: If not before I mean the Steelers, I mean they 461 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 2: could be in deep do do real quick. 462 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 5: They absolutely could. Now. I was even saying this on 463 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 5: our Friday Football showed Mike de Courci, who you have 464 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 5: on all the time, we were bringing up the wild 465 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 5: card picture, and like even for Kansas City, it's starting 466 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 5: to get late early, you know this whole thing. Oh 467 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 5: that the Chiefs will be fine, The Chiefs will be fined, 468 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 5: they probably will, They'll probably get in, but it's they're 469 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 5: five and five now, and the clock is starting to tick. 470 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 5: They've got three what look like automatic wins, and their 471 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 5: four toughest games are all at home, so the math 472 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 5: probably works out for them. But if the math works 473 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 5: out for them and the Steelers have lost to the 474 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 5: Charges already, and maybe the Broncos win the division, and gosh, 475 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 5: what if the Patriots really do win the East and 476 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 5: the Steelers will probably loose the Bills. You see where 477 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 5: I'm going with this, mark, Like, then it becomes division 478 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 5: or bust, and they're probably gonna at least split with 479 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 5: the Ravens. It very well may come down to division 480 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 5: or bust, fourth seed hosting Kansas City or Buffalo or 481 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 5: you go home and the Ravens get to do that instead, 482 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 5: just like we've been prognosticating for how many weeks now, 483 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 5: I mean, it's going right down that path. Now. 484 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: If the Steelers lose this game in Baltimore beats the Jets, 485 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, they're tied for first, and it seems like 486 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: the Steelers are back to square one, and more significantly, 487 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: to my mind, it seems like any one of the 488 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: last seven seasons. 489 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: Why why can't the Steelers run the ball? 490 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: Fourth from bottom in the league For Washington attack Warrens 491 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: banged up the on line eighth Great, maybe I answered 492 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: my own question, but I also know they never really 493 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: commit to it like I thought they would. 494 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. The weird thing about it is their two best 495 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 5: running games and it's felt like, and maybe this isn't 496 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 5: exactly the case statistically, but you know they've substituted the 497 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 5: short pass for the run frequently when Gainwell has been 498 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 5: the guy. 499 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 4: I mean, that was definitely the game last week, and he. 500 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 5: Was really effective running the wall. I have reinforced my 501 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 5: theory that the best way to go about using their 502 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 5: running backs is to have each Gainwell and Warren be 503 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 5: their own third down guy stop with the maniacal Warren 504 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 5: in for two, Gainwell in for one hit resett. 505 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: Tim, Tim, let me let me interrupt. I think the 506 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: offensive coaching. I think Arthur Smith is this close to 507 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: incompetent the stuff you're talking about. And the tight ends 508 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: were supposed to be the salvation of the team, used 509 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: in clever ways, and two of them have pretty much 510 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: been been legislated. 511 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: Out of the attack. 512 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: And DK Metcats is stiff because they got no number 513 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: two receiver, can't develop anybody. I think Smith has done 514 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: poor enough to be fired. 515 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 5: And what really stood out about that was when Mason 516 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 5: got in there. Okay, I gotta use this with the 517 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 5: Giant asteris that's the Bengals defense, I get it, But 518 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 5: the Bear's defense is no real prize either. I know 519 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 5: they're gonna want to avoid the middle of the field 520 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 5: because they've got good defenders in the middle of the 521 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 5: field that intercept the ball. Bear does that, that their 522 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 5: linebackers do that, although the linebackers really banged up. That's 523 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 5: gonna be interesting to watch to see how those guys 524 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 5: player don't play, but they can't avoid the middle of 525 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 5: the field. And did you notice how like when Mason 526 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 5: came in there, there was space like you know, they 527 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 5: were running guys off and there were running patterns across 528 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 5: the middle, whether they're drags or hitches or whatever, slants 529 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 5: or whatever it might be off the line of scrimmage. 530 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 5: That works. And Mason said, and Tomlin reiterated it that 531 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 5: during that long lull, it was a longer drive than 532 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 5: it looked in the clock. There was some reviews and 533 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 5: injuries and things like that that allowed Smith and Rudolph 534 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 5: to go over the plays that Rudolph wanted. Well, maybe 535 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 5: they should want Rogers to have those plays to clear 536 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 5: some things out and use the middle of the field 537 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 5: a little bit more often, even if they on paper 538 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 5: might be scared off of doing that because of what 539 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 5: Chicago does. This week, Tim Matt. 540 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: Williamson brought up a good point about DK Metcalf and 541 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: his disappointing season to date. He might be the Steelers' 542 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: best receips, but he's not a real number one wide 543 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: out like Jefferson. 544 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: Or that kind. 545 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 5: And I think that's why Seattle was willing to part 546 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 5: with him, also knowing what they had in Jackson, Smith 547 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 5: and Jigga. That was, you know, certainly a complimentary part 548 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 5: to their decision. But you know, Dk asked for a 549 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 5: trade and they could have said no, they didn't have 550 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 5: to do this, but they decided to do this because 551 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 5: I think they felt, like, you know, they could through 552 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 5: the many other avenues that people some other teams usually 553 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 5: used to get receivers, the drafts, the trade would have you, 554 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 5: they backfilled. And I think the things that DK lacks, 555 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 5: like the weirdest thing is the combat catch thing, because 556 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 5: you would figure with his ability to separate, you wouldn't 557 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 5: be in as many combat catch situations, and you would 558 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 5: figure that with his size, he'd win more of those battles. 559 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 5: But he just doesn't have the nuance when he gets 560 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 5: entight type coverage to use his body and the way 561 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 5: you would think that he could. And that is frustrating 562 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 5: because as I heard you going to break, he doesn't 563 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 5: have the world's greatest hands. I mean I was told 564 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 5: that by people in Seattle when he came here. He's 565 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 5: gonna do a lot of stuff that dazzles. You are 566 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 5: going to be completely wowed by the physical capabilities, but 567 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 5: you're also going to be surprised at how many he 568 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 5: drops and they're easy passes. Then it'll come up with 569 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 5: some doozies and he's been on script and they don't 570 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 5: have the complimentary second receiver to offset that like the 571 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 5: Seahawks had, would locket like the Seahawks had for his 572 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 5: first year in a jiggo, who do you liked? 573 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: Tim? 574 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,719 Speaker 1: It's tough to really. I mean, I think Chicago's gonna win. 575 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: I'd feel better if I knew if Rogers was for 576 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: sure playing what percent he'll be how willing then be 577 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: to go to Rootolph in case of emergency? 578 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: But what do you think. 579 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 5: I've got the Bears winning this twenty nine, twenty seven. 580 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 5: I think the Steelers really get in Dutch after that, 581 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 5: and then it comes down to your day that will 582 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 5: live in to me. I could be wrong on this, 583 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 5: but I think it might. It might come down to 584 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 5: its just not working out with Rogers, them figuring that out, 585 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 5: Rudolph coming off the bench and making fetch happen. 586 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: Tim, I will make fetch happen. Good stuff, Enjoy the game. 587 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: We'll talk next week. 588 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: You got it, Mark, that's Tim Benz, I'm Mark Madden. 589 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: We got Charlie Batch talking even more Steelers at the 590 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: top of the hour. I will make fetch happen one 591 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: oh five nine. The X. 592 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: Listen to the X everywhere you go anywhere, everywhere. 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