1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: A really good text over the course of the show. 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Really appreciate you guys chiming in. Keep those coming. We'll 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: get to a few of those coming up here in 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: a little bit. Benjamin Albright with Broncos Country Tonight coming 5 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: up back talking are they talking mess about you, they're 6 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: talking noise about you, or are they saying we're today 7 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: The text line saying not today, actually not today. Today 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: has been relatively positive. Now I say that, and somebody's 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: gonna feel like this license to be like, oh well, 10 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: we can't go a whole day. 11 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: When it's like negativity. 12 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, look the group consensus group out there's somebody's got 13 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: to say something to bring me down. But no, it's 14 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: been an overall positive a lot of positivity because people 15 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: love when you're in studio. I appreciate it him, So 16 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: a lot of positivity on that. And then yeah, I say, 17 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: just in general, just. 18 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: More reaction reacting to the conversation. So good stuff. 19 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate that somebody is going off on Ben and 20 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: Nick because I guess they talked about Russell Wilson as 21 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame player. Is a really good conversation. 22 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: You think he is, you know he was on that 23 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: trajectory for sure, coming out of Seattle. For sure. It's 24 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: it's so tough because you've got to encompass the whole career. 25 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: So we're thinking about it in terms of the last 26 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: few years when it's been trending down. 27 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: And so eight years in Seattle. 28 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, ten, I think is a nine time pro bowler. 29 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: He miss missed one miss one year. 30 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: It's the pro bowler. 31 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: It was nine fourteen years. Yeah, I think that's about right. 32 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: Fourteen career and and he's had some some very high 33 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: level performances, right, I mean he's he's you know, went 34 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: to two Super Bowls. He was a Super Bowl MVP. No, 35 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: he wasn't a Super Bowl MVP when they Malcolm Smith. 36 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: That was Malcolm Yeah, College that that super Bowl is brutal. 37 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, i'd say i'd say not a first ballot, 38 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: But I think he gets in, and I know that 39 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: feels like I'm sort of righting in twenty years. Oh 40 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: less than that, I think he only wait a few 41 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: But like, I mean, well, there's so many players. There's 42 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: only a certain amount that going in, but there are 43 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: so many players that are entering into that thing. So 44 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, Drew Brees isn't up yet. Eli Manning isn't 45 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: there yet. I mean, they're just a whole bunch of players. 46 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: I have a hard time thinking that he is a 47 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer if they have a hard time putting 48 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 1: Eli in, who beat the Patriots twice, He's got both 49 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVPs, he's top ten and passing yards, touchdowns 50 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: and completions. 51 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 2: They had a hard time putting him in as a 52 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: first bat. 53 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be hard for Russell Wilson to 54 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: make it. It might be, and he rubs so many and 55 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: because humans vote on it, he rubs so many people 56 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: the wrong way. Sure, Ronco's country. 57 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: And there's always that. 58 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: Man. I don't know, Like I said, I felt pretty 59 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: good about him on a Hall of Fame track when 60 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: he got here to Denver, and since then, it's hard 61 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: to have a realistic conversation about it because it's been 62 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: so bad. Yeah, and really bad. You've been really three times. 63 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 64 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: Now I know for Ben, like I know some of 65 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: the conversations, he's like he was really good last year 66 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: with pittsburghen like he was, and then he really wasn't, 67 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: Like he's really good. I guess really bad teams yeah, 68 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: and then when they needed him what they paid him for, 69 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: he didn't do anything exactly. 70 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: So you're probably right. 71 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: It feels like we get five six years into the 72 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: his his eligibility and then maybe that's one of those 73 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: like Okay, well we're really light on quarterbacks right now, 74 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: so hybe maybe in that conversation, but definitely not a 75 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: first ballot like first entry in no way Stafford. 76 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: A Hall of Famer. Oh easy, wellwy had pretty similar careers. Yeah, but. 77 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: That's the wrong thing for me to say, because Stafford's 78 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: still playing at an elite level. He's on his first 79 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: ten years. Like, even though how good he was, he 80 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: couldn't drive any wins. But there's been the quarterback a 81 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: team that didn't win any game. No, I understand your point, 82 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: and when we go to the quarterback wins conversation, it's 83 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: always an interesting debate. 84 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: But he was a top ten. 85 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: Level basically every season he was in Detroit and then 86 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: now out Now like talent from a talent stand from 87 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: a talent standpoint, from just an optics, everybody believes that 88 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: this is a top ten quarterback every single year he 89 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: touches the field. I think Russell Wilson has been debatable 90 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: in that ten to fifteen range. Sometimes he was putting 91 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: up some top five numbers, but a lot of people 92 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: will point to the success of the defense and the 93 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: success success of the run game out there, and ultimately 94 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll got the best out of him by limiting him, 95 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: and that's not the same case with Matthew Stafford. You 96 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: put Matthew Stafford in high leverage situations and he performs 97 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: every time those turns the ball over and in a. 98 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: Lot of pressure situations. I mean, just because I grew 99 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: up in Detroit, I know this really well. Yeah. 100 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: Sure, so, I mean, don't get me wrong, I think 101 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: Stafford is a Hall of fay qv. 102 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: I think what he did just based off of the. 103 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: Trade going to the Rams and then winning it, and 104 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: then also the fact that he is quarterbacked for the 105 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: three Triple Crown winners. 106 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: I mean, that's kind of crazy. Ru That's crazy. 107 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm really surprised that he's never won an MVP. 108 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: By the way, Pukakola is on and we're gonna get 109 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: to watch him tonight. He's on pace to break Calvin record, 110 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson's record, but it's four weeks in. It's really really, 111 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: But people were saying that, They're like, hey, he's on pace, 112 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean five hundred per. 113 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: Yards easy, you know. 114 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's really Do you think they run him 115 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: this composition for another day? 116 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: Do they run Pooka to the ground like they did 117 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: Cooper Cup? 118 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: As Cooper Cup had like three incredible years and then 119 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: like injuries. 120 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: Because he was just hitting the ball. He was getting 121 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: hit so much. 122 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: I think that's the only way they win anything this year. Yeah, 123 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: so yes, yeah, they absolutely will. 124 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 125 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: And because it's the same team that did it with 126 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, you absolutely are gonna do that with Pooka 127 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: Nakoua because he's performing at that level. Adding DeVante Adams 128 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: has only made that offense more formidable. I mean, yes, yeah, yeah, 129 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: you think so. Yeah, I'm a DeVante guy. I came 130 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: out with Davante. I didn't know he was going to 131 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: be as incredible he was. I mean, arguably, I was 132 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: a part of one of the maybe top three deepest 133 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: draft classes. Obviously I didn't get drafted, but I had Odell, 134 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: Mike Evans, Allen Robinson, Marquis Lee, Cody Latimer, Sammy Watkins, 135 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: Bruce Ellington. Just I mean incredible seem Joviish, Landry Jarvis Landry, Yeah, 136 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: you know, just yeah, incredible receivers. So Codylmer, Yeah, DeVante 137 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: Adams was in that second round, second round pick. 138 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: Which is nuts. Yeah, that is that's unbelievable. 139 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: So speaking of the first four weeks, just for a moment, 140 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: and before we hear from Sean Payton talking about what 141 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: bow Nicks likes early in drives. 142 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 2: Do we overreact sometimes? 143 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: I know for years when it was the Patriots, for example, 144 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: they'd be one in three or maybe even I mean 145 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: to four, but they get off to slow starts, especially 146 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: in offense, and people are like, this is it, this 147 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: is the end, and then they'd be in the Super Bowl. 148 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: The Chiefs. The Chiefs were one and two. Now of 149 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: course that they're they're two and two. Right, there was 150 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: just this like, okay, are the Chiefs gonna be good 151 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: or they gonna be bad? 152 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: The offense didn't look great. 153 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: Now they play the Baltimore Ravens, who might not be 154 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: a very good defense at all. But they played the 155 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens and he throws four touchdowns and now Alison, 156 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are back. Do we overreact too much to 157 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: the first four weeks of the season. Yeah, I think so, 158 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: because teams haven't established their identity yet. They just teams, 159 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: just like fans have huge visions of what the offense 160 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: and defense and special teams can look like, but then 161 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: you have to let those things play out. We don't 162 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: play the game on paper, and training camp is very 163 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: different than what it used to be. So I think, 164 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, just playing in this offense in twenty twenty, 165 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,679 Speaker 1: what the coaches told me when I first joined the team, 166 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: and the questions that I had, because I don't think 167 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: we lost our first game, but yeah, I think we 168 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: were one and two or two and two or one 169 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: in three to start the twenty twenty season. I think 170 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: we end up finishing thirteen and three. Now, yeah, we 171 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: definitely started one of all because we beat We beat 172 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: Brady in the Bucks, but we lost to like the 173 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders, and Sean was pissed. He's the only 174 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: coach I've ever played for where you have a chartered 175 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: playing supposed to take off in the morning back to 176 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: New Orleans, and he pushed the plane back like, Hey, 177 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: we're going to watch the film here at the hotel 178 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: before we get on. 179 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: This plane, because that's how piss he was. 180 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: And you know, I asked the coach, like I asked 181 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: some of our assistant coaches, like, you know, what's going 182 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: on with offense? You know, Drew's and you're twenty at 183 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: this point. We got Michael Thomas who has broken every record. 184 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: We got Emanue, we got Jerry Cook, Kamara and Latavius Murray. 185 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: It's like, what's going on. It's like, oh no, we 186 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: usually start slow around here and we'll pick it up. 187 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: And they were super calm about it. And I think 188 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: that's kind of how Sean approaches things. That's how you 189 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: know he just understands yeah, because he starts with that 190 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: large volume of play. So I think we definitely put 191 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: a lot of stock into it. If you remember last year, No. 192 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: Orlean Saints got off to a two and zh start 193 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: and they had blown the first two teams out that 194 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: they played, and then they lost like eight straight. You know, 195 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: I've been on some teams here, I think twenty eighteen, 196 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, my last year here. Then we got off 197 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: to three and one start, We blew Dallas out, we 198 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: beat him like by forty and we lost eight in 199 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: a row. 200 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 2: So you know, the first four games of the season are. 201 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: Sample size of what you can do really well, what 202 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: you can lean on, and then you go from there. 203 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: But then this next quarter of the season, you're gonna 204 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: test some things out and you're gonna see and then 205 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: you try to get to your bye week and then hey, 206 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: who are we what can we lean on? How can 207 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: we dress these things up? So it's you're always constantly evolving. 208 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: You've seen it with really great teams, like you said, 209 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: the Patriots, the Chiefs, any of Peyton's teams. You know, 210 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: you have different identities at different points in the season, 211 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: whether it's injuries and then the rhythm of the quarterback, 212 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: the rhythm of the defense. I heard to keep to 213 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: leave talking and he's like, this defense hasn't even hit 214 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: their stride yet. You know, they're bringing on young players, 215 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: new players. Alex didn't play a lot last year because 216 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: he was hurt, so even they're going to hit their stride. 217 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: And then you know, Malcolm Roach and other players have 218 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: been out, so you know, you got to be hitting 219 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: your stride at the right time. So what do you 220 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: feel like we can take away from the first month, Like, 221 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: let's just take for the Broncos for example, Like what 222 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: we see is a two and two team could be 223 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: four and oh there's just an area where they're actually 224 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: one in three right now because the Tennessee Titans are 225 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: just not a very good team. But the Broncos left 226 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: the door open a couple of times pretendency to come 227 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: back into that game. But more than anything, there are 228 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: two and two teams. You are what your record says 229 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: you are. So what do you feel like? You know, 230 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: without overreacting to the first month with the Broncos, you know, 231 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: high level looking at it, if you're looking at it 232 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: from an office a standpoint, you can look at Boat. 233 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: You can look at Bose progression week to week. He 234 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: saw the field better each and every single week. Now 235 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: we're going to go back to the Chargers game where 236 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: the completions weren't there, but he was thrown to the 237 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: right guy and the right person was open. The connection 238 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: wasn't made. Week four. Things are progressing and clicking. He's 239 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: able to process and see the defense better, see the 240 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: field better. You know, you talk about the all out 241 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: blitz in the red zone. He hits Harvey on the touchdown. 242 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: Little things like that, seeing the pressures, knowing what things 243 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: are coming from. He was a lot calmer in the pocket, 244 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: so he is progressing. The receiver corps is also trending up. 245 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: Courtland is obviously in mid season form. He's playing well. 246 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: He knows the spots. I got a chance to see 247 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: or we got a chance to see the yards after catch, 248 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: which is not really always a part of his game, 249 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: but we got a chance to see that the last game. 250 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: Troy Franklin is light years ahead of where he was 251 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: last year. Marvin Mims is your mini joker. 252 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: He's all around. 253 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: He's gotten in the end zone, receiving the ball and 254 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: also running the ball. I think you also have to 255 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: be really excited about the patience of JK. Dobbins and 256 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: also the swagger that he brings to the offense. I 257 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: think that is great. R J. Harvey has gotten better 258 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: every single game. I'd like him to be better on kickoff, 259 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: but we'll get to special teams later. But I think 260 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: offensive line, well, they've protected not taking a lot of sacks. 261 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: Defensively okay here and there, but still a top union 262 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: of the league. 263 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 2: I think Paser tad you know, they not necessarily. 264 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: Humbled him, but you know, the Colts went after him 265 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: a little bit and he's responded every single week. I 266 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: think Riley Moss is going to continue to get targeted, 267 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: but I think he's played really well. He's in position, 268 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: te Higgins makes one play and then te Higgins has 269 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: another catch. But you know, their whole game plan was like, 270 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: all right, we're just going to throw at Riley Moss, 271 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: throw jump balls and live with that. And I think 272 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: he played really well. The Keenan Allen touchdown. You know, 273 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: he great coverage, you know, Nick Podino just missus justin 274 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: Herbert right there. Linebackers, you're worried a little bit in 275 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: terms of coverage and how Tyler Warren and Jonathan Taylor 276 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: kind of took advantage in the past game, but pretty 277 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: much been solid. Alex Singleton's went all over the place. 278 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: Dredna has played really well. Nick Bedito Jonathan Cooper best duo, 279 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: I would say in terms of pass rush in the league. 280 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: So you're excited about that. 281 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: I think you want to turnovers and takeaways though, that's 282 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: got to be better. If you're going to be a 283 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: playoff super Bowl team, you got to turn You've got 284 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: to turn the other team over. 285 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: And you you have four so far. You got it. 286 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 2: You got it. That has to be only one pick. Yep, 287 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 2: you need more of that. 288 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: Special teams wise, I think that's been the worst unit 289 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: so far. 290 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: That has to have improvement. 291 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: You know, you put one ball on the ground, the penalties, 292 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: the off side by Benito, the field goal lost to 293 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: the Colts. You know, those little things cannot happen. Running 294 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: into the punter, you know, can't have that. But I 295 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: think there are big opportunities for them to make sure 296 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: ees Marvin Mims is still an incredible dynamic returner. 297 00:12:59,280 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: I want R. J. 298 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: Harvey to run on kickoff return with the ball like 299 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: he does when he's playing running back. He seems very 300 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: hesitant when he's back there of how to set these 301 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: things up. It's like, hey man, you've got to run 302 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: and start with this ball. Let's go find the whole 303 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: find increase people on. People like myself won't kick, I'll 304 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: have to tackle you. I don't want to tackle you, 305 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: so run at me. So I think I think overall, 306 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: you know, you give the overall unit all three units 307 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: A B, and then you. 308 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: Know you progress from there. 309 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: But that's how that's high level, how I would look 310 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: at it, and how we're taught to look at it. 311 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: You know, in the building, it's the first four. You know, 312 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: now we're in a new season. We went to and 313 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: two in this mini season. Now we're on to the next. 314 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: So that's that's kind of how we looked at. 315 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: It in the buildings. 316 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: I was in all like that, and that's that's a 317 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: really good breakdown. And I think a lot of that 318 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: almost as independent of the record, right. I mean a 319 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: lot of those are just performance things like these are 320 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: things that you can continue to be good at or 321 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: be better at, and yet there's a sentiment there where 322 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: you feel like there's so much more room for growth, right, 323 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: And I think that's the exciting part about it, and 324 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: as long as you actually get there, because the problem 325 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: is is sometimes we talk about potential, and for years 326 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: with the Broncos receiving core, for example, we talk about 327 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: potential and like, oh, what they could be, what they 328 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: could be, and then they never really get there, and 329 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: then it's like, all right, well. 330 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: Next year maybe maybe maybe next year. 331 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: Is so Corlan's arrived, Troy still is in that potential phase, right, 332 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: and I think Marvin's maybe on the far end of 333 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: that potential phase where I think we're starting to see 334 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: what he's going to be pretty consistently, but there's still 335 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: so much potential there with the offense. But you need 336 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: some of these guys to become more than that and 337 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: if you're going to get to that level, and that 338 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: includes BONNICKX right. I mean, he is also kind of 339 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: in that window of we see some high level play, 340 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: but we don't see it consistently enough. They still have 341 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: too many three and outs, and it does feel like 342 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: if they get a first down, it feels like, boy, 343 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: they have a chance to hit their head against a 344 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: goal post at that point because they're probably going to 345 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: move down the field pretty efficiently. But it's that first 346 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: first down. It seems almost impossible at times. But this 347 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: was a good answer from Sean Payton. He was asked 348 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: about what Bonix likes early in drives, and here's what 349 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: he said. 350 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 3: He likes tempo, tempo to the line. Certainly last week, 351 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: I think we had two or three third down conversions 352 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: with tempo. He's at the line with twenty six seconds 353 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: now instead of breaking the huddle with eight. You know, 354 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: you adapt because that's something that a lot of these 355 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: college quarterbacks are, you know, and reducing the verbide and 356 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 3: getting to where we can call plays with just one 357 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: you know, one name, one syllable. Those are those are 358 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: some of the things that have changed. 359 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: And you can't always go tempo because yeah, I. 360 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: May not want tempo. I may my defense might be tired, 361 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: you know. So if I'm going tempo, I want to 362 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: be able to control that. 363 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: There's so many good things in there. What was the 364 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: first thing jump out to you? 365 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: Though? The first thing that jumps out to me is 366 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: the two minute drills in most of the games, at 367 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: least the last three games, not maybe not the first one, 368 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: but the last three games. He moves the ball in 369 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: no huddle really well. I mean, he sees the field 370 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: really well. But that's because the defense has to show 371 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: their hands. You know, you line up on the ball. 372 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: You're going quicker. 373 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: He can, he can diagnose those things a lot easier. 374 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: It's those times where you know they're showing blitz zero 375 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: and then they drop out to cover eight and everybody's 376 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: in coverage, where you know, things get a little bit harder. 377 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: I would have loved to see a little bit more 378 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: tempo against the Chargers because they play that zone. Hopefully 379 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: we see some some tempo against the Eagles. 380 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: Get Jayalen Carter a. 381 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: Little tired, but hey, you know Fangio's playing this cover two, 382 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: cover four, cover forty two. You know, how do you 383 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: help bo really see the field, figure out, you know, 384 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: where his matchups are. And then also what really stood 385 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: out is these one words you know out yes, you 386 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: know we were talking off air about that, and you 387 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: know one of my I don't have a gripe with Sean. 388 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: It's not something I would never bring up to him. 389 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: But you know, this office does have a lot of words. 390 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: You got a lot of personnel, and then you have 391 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: a lot of words. You're telling everybody basically what to do. 392 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: And what I loved about playing in Peyton's offense it 393 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: was it was one word. 394 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 2: We were able to play on the ball. 395 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: We could go ice cream ice cream, which is, hey, 396 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: we're going dice right or dice left, which is you 397 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: know a two y two are you going trips right 398 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: trips left? 399 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: Which three by one? 400 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: And you just go ice cream and he'd say, omaha, omaha, 401 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: said hut. 402 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: Defense will show what they're about to do. 403 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: And then Peyton wouldcall, you know, Rhode Island or Rhode 404 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: Island Protection or whatever the left protection was. I forgot 405 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: what that the name of it was, but then we 406 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: would call our play from there. 407 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: You know, you know Shoela Miami or. 408 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: Beta Dallas or you know Dragon Lion just you know, 409 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: concepts like that are Hulster or whatever. Florida right florda 410 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: left tower, left tower, right photo. You know, I'm just 411 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: thinking about all these terms. I'm just going back in 412 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: my mind right now of these things. But you could 413 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: play super fast because you understood the concept. And I think, 414 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, if you could get your receivers on that 415 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: same page to understand the concept, Bow can play a 416 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: lot faster. 417 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 2: You know, that's how he's used to playing. 418 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm also have to believe that Seawan really wants to 419 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: teach Bo how to play NFL quarterback, because you know, 420 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: Sean's not a short term thinker. I'm not just going 421 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: to play to only your strengths and then we peter 422 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: out our offense peters out. You know, he talked about 423 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: playing complimentary football. I meane the defense just had a 424 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: long drive and we need to sustain and drive you. 425 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Payton have been talking about online of recently, 426 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: you know, the development of quarterbacks, and I think Sean 427 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: is a development of guy, you're going to learn how 428 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: to read these coverages in these defenses because long term, 429 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: that is actually going to help you out. 430 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: See. 431 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: It's so funny you say that, because I imagine for 432 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: some Broncos fans when they hear that, they're like, well, 433 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: if bo likes it this way, just do it that way. 434 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: Aren't you supposed to coach to your player's strengths. Yeah, 435 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: you're right, though. He's a teacher, and that's something that 436 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: he said from the very first moment he got here, 437 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: that this was something he was going to do with everybody. 438 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 1: He does it on both sides of the ball, right, 439 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: I mean all three phases. He teaches on special teams 440 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: as well. He loves doing that. But there is a 441 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: certain amount of like, okay, is they're over teaching, because 442 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: that can happen too if you're overwhelming this, if you're 443 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: over overwhelming the quarterback with the verbiage or overwhelming him 444 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: with concepts, and it sometimes does feel like Bonix is overwhelmed. Yeah, 445 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: and that's where the Shawn's awareness comes in. Every single week, 446 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: and he dials it back every single week. And you 447 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: see him dial it back from week one to week two, 448 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: to week three to week four, and it will be 449 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: probably be dialed back even more weeks. 450 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: Five going on. 451 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: But if you can actually handle all that and the 452 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: offense gets off to a great start, that's even better. 453 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, how do you have to 454 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: get the sample size first? It's like, you know, hey, 455 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: I want to feel better. I want my body to 456 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: feel better, but you don't know what does your blood 457 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: work tell you? If you don't have any blood work, 458 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: how are you supposed to get better? How are you 459 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: supposed to know what supplements or to take? Are you 460 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: just going to go to Hole Foods and buy everything 461 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: off the counter because of what you read online? So 462 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: where's your sample size? The first four weeks isn't sample size? 463 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: And I think you know Seawn is going to continue. 464 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: That can change from year to year because in year 465 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: three of this offense, Bow might be able to handle that. 466 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: In week one and week two and so with Courtland, 467 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: and so Troy and Marvin Mims and then Pat Bryant. 468 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: So it looks different every single year. And I think 469 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: the best New Orleans years were later on. It wasn't 470 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: in year one, year two, It was in year three 471 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: four where Drew's throwing for four thousand, five thousand yards. 472 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: I think in the year three he threw for five 473 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: thousand yards because by the time he was able to 474 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: absorb all of it and then they kind of paired 475 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: it down to the things that he was doing. 476 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: Well. Then that's much easier for everybody, Right. 477 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning play Peyton Manning play at the same offense 478 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: for basically eighteen years, and year one he threw twenty 479 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: eight picks same offense as year eighteen. I mean, he 480 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't have done that if you were there. I just 481 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: think I think it takes I think it takes time. 482 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: And yeah, I think Sean is playing into some of 483 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: Bose shrinks, but he's also teaching him how to play 484 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback. And I think the best organizations and coaches 485 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: take their time with this stuff. Look at Kevin O'Connell, 486 00:20:54,880 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: he's turned around, Carson Wentz's career, Sam Darnold's career, Kirk's career, 487 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: Sean McVay, Stafford Golf done. 488 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: Really well with those guys. Even Baker Mayfield. 489 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: Teaching these guys how to really play quarterback and how 490 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: to really read and progress through defenses. So I'm glad 491 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: Bo's getting it in year one. I mean, you don't 492 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: want to have a you know, I'm a start for 493 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: Shade here. You don't want to have a Nathaniel Hackett 494 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: situation where you draft Bow and then you've got to 495 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: fire him and then you have a new coordinator. Hopefully 496 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: Sean can be here for the next ten years and 497 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: both could play in this offense for a long time 498 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: because they would. 499 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: Only get better. Well, it's Nathaniel Hackey family, see said Dave. 500 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, we get a chance to sit down and talk 501 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: Broncos ex to O's and we release the show every 502 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: Tuesday at one and you know, I just get to 503 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, similar to you really just pick his mind 504 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: in terms of how he thinks about the game. And Yeah, 505 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: Dave's great. I think he has a great understanding. I 506 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: think obviously having the view that he has calling every 507 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: game is very unique, and he gets a chance to 508 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: break some of these things down. And also, I have 509 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: my perspective, which you have yours, and you bring it 510 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: to a show in a different format and you're. 511 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 2: Like, what did you see? 512 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: And it's crazy that you know some of the things 513 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: that he can see or pick up or recall from 514 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: that game. And also he has the insight that we 515 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: don't have. He's on the field before the game, he's 516 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: in some of these meetings, and he gets to just 517 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: be around and be on the field and have that 518 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: personal feel of what the energy was like, you know, 519 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: pregame or even postgame. 520 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: So I enjoy it. He's he's incredibly perceptive. We were 521 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 2: talking about that. 522 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: He's incredibly perceptive, and it is remarkable his recall on 523 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: not only moments in like the most recent game, but 524 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: going back years and he can just spit out a 525 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: play like, oh, I remember exactly this play and there 526 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: was this much time left on the clock and there 527 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: was this moment in the thing, and just like, how 528 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: the heck do I mean with all of the football? Yeah, 529 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: with all the football that he's absorbed to be able 530 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: to do that. And one of the things I love 531 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: about the show with you guys is you're both wide receivers, right, 532 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: so there's a little bit of a speaking the same 533 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: language or defus Well, I. 534 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: Would never say something like that about. 535 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: Dave, but let's be honest, I'm just kidding Dave. 536 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 2: Dave was the farthest thing from that. 537 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: But no, I just like you know, there's something about 538 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: playing the same position and seeing the field the same 539 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: way and having to do some of the same kinds 540 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: of things when you're especially take taking a bigger, broader 541 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: view of what a team does. I think that's cool. Yeah, 542 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Yeah, we enjoy it, and yeah, would 543 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: love for people to check it out and hear our perspective. 544 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: I think you should a couple more sound bites here. 545 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: I want to hear a little more from Bonix. So 546 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 1: he was asked about it how much it helps with JK. 547 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: Dobbins playing the way he is, especially on first down, 548 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: what it does for the offense. 549 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 4: Well, it's it's massive because then you're in second and five, 550 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 4: then you're in third and manageable. You know, those first 551 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 4: and second out runs are really important. Yeah, I think 552 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 4: at the end of the game, when you're able to 553 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 4: run the ball, when the defense knows you're running, it 554 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 4: is important. That's how you put games away, that's how 555 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 4: you win in four minutes. So that's one thing that 556 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 4: we can grow on from the other night, and you know, 557 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 4: something that we're going to have to continue to do 558 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 4: in the future. And so between JK and r J 559 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 4: and the rest of the backs, whoever's out there getting touches, 560 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 4: I think they're going to be able to give us 561 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 4: an explosive opportunity, give us chances to keep the chains 562 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 4: moving and move forward. 563 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 2: This isn't really foreign to JK. Dobbins. 564 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: I mean, the average is five point three over the 565 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: course of his career, but you looked at the years 566 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: that he was most productive, at least he played the 567 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: most six yards per carry five point seven, four point six, 568 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 1: five point seven. 569 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: I mean, this is just what he does. 570 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,239 Speaker 1: I got into an argument the other night, and I 571 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: still think I'm right, but that's the nature of this business. 572 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 2: I still think I'm right. 573 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: I got into a argument with Nate Jackson and Rod Smith, 574 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: who again maybe played a little bit, and they said, 575 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: you should just continue to feed JK. Dobbins like he's 576 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: an RB one, like twenty carries a game, twenty touches, 577 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: twenty plus touches a game. 578 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 2: And he said, no, that's not why he and RJ. 579 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: Harvey are here. 580 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: And Sean Payton laid this out to it for us 581 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: very early in the season, saying, I want these guys 582 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: to be at their best in December and into January, 583 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: and if you run one of them into the ground. Now, 584 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: you're not going to have that ability. So for me, 585 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: I want the continued time share between these two running backs. 586 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: They disagree because JK is off to such a hot start. 587 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: Maybe you can help being a bit of a deciding 588 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: vote here. Yeah, I'm on your side because number one, 589 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: you're playing a long term game. Number two, I also 590 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: think it throws the defense off. There's a little bit 591 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: of a change of pace because r J. Harvey does 592 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: have a lot of explosiveness in a different type of speed. 593 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: He's a different change of pace back. And Sean has 594 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: always had a two back system and he's always done 595 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: that really well. And I think he is getting his 596 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: rhythm and his play calling designed down for those two backs. 597 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: So I'm all with an all for the two back system. 598 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: I think we won the Super Bowl with the two 599 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: back system. SHEJ would get more, you know, more of 600 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: the carries later on in the game, but having a 601 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: Ronnie Hillman, you know, you think about the game we 602 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: played against the Minnesota Vikings. I don't know, he took 603 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: a carry, what's seventy five yards? He just had, you know, 604 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: crazy explosive ability. And I think that's where RJ comes 605 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: into play. I think RJ has the more dynamic ability 606 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: in the past game. You saw that against the Cincinnati Bengals, 607 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: And I think Sean has done a great job in 608 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: trying to continue to get him more involved with the 609 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: swing passes, with the screen. So I think JK is 610 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 1: your four minute back. I think Tyler Bidets are two 611 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: minute back, and I think they switch off every other series. 612 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: You keep him healthy, you know, I want JK to 613 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: rush for one thousand yards. And I don't think, you know, 614 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be short sighted or short minded 615 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: or you know, think short term, you know, just trying 616 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: to get him, you know, all those yards in the 617 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: first two months of the season. No, this is you know, 618 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: we got three months left, you know, so what was 619 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: it we got? It's four games? So how many more game? 620 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: We got thirteen more games? Yeah, thirteen more games. So 621 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, let's let's keep him healthy for those games 622 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: and let them you know. 623 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: Trade on and off. So that's what I want to see. 624 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: I think JK has I thought he did a great 625 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: job of setting up his blocks, like I've played with 626 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: a running back like that in Le'Veon Bell at Michigan State, 627 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: who just had that type of vision. And you know, 628 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: I don't know of and I don't know if you 629 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: can recall right now of backs in the NFL that 630 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: have that type of vision. 631 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 2: And I'm talking about setting up your blocks. 632 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: Say, Quon's a great running back, but you know he's 633 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: more so hit the whole make one cut Le'veon's one 634 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: of the best I ever saw to do it. Yeah, 635 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: and I think what I saw from JK and then I, 636 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: you know, shout out to romy Bean. I saw them 637 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: do an interview where he talked about, you know, he 638 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: wants the defense to play. 639 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 2: At his pace. Yes, and that's the first you know, 640 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 2: that's the first time I. 641 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: Really saw that, probably because he got more of a 642 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: rhythm and the carriages were better. 643 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 2: But I thought they did a great job. 644 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: And you know what, he he doesn't even have to 645 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: be like I just did the math, and again math 646 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: is in my strong sea, but I had a calculator 647 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: out here. So he's got three hundred and twenty three 648 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: rushing yards so far to the first four games. 649 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: He just needs to average about fifty four yards. 650 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: In fact, even a little bit less than fifty four 651 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: yards per game to get to a thousand he's gonna 652 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: probably get there as long as he stays healthy. But 653 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: the best chance for him to stay healthy for a 654 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: guy that's never played in an entire season is to have 655 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 1: a two back system. 656 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: So I think even though JK. 657 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: And it's funny because I actually interviewed JK during training 658 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: camp and asked him about the two back system and 659 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: how excited he is about that. 660 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: He's like, I don't I'm a number one. I want 661 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: the ball all the time. 662 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I appreciate that, but I also 663 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: think we can have a bigger picture mentality about this 664 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: and understand what you've done for the course of your 665 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: career and ultimately what you can benefit from. And I 666 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: love that you said that, and I think it's perfectly 667 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: he said. I wish I would have said it to 668 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: Rod and Nate the other day. Is that this is 669 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: what Shawn's Shawn's offense is He's never had a guy 670 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: that he just universally. 671 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: Gives the ball to and doesn't involve anybody else. 672 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: It was Alvin Kamara was mark Ingram when Reggie Bush 673 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: was the same thing. When you had Darren Sproles as 674 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: a change pace back, you had Pere Thomas you had 675 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,719 Speaker 1: guys that you are mixing in and they all had 676 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,959 Speaker 1: a very specific role. But the thing about it is 677 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: is you didn't You didn't skip a beat when any 678 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: of them were in, like you could still do and 679 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: operate a lot of the things you wanted to be 680 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: able to do. And I think you had that with 681 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: these two guys. Yeah, And I think it will only 682 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: get better. I think it will continue to get better 683 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: with time. It's crazy to think about, obviously JK being 684 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: the one hundred yard rusher, the first one in the 685 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: Sean Paige R. 686 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: Thirty seven games. 687 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: But if even if you think about it, if we 688 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: look back and we take it, we take this high 689 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: level right now, Ryan, this is both of their first 690 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: years in this offense, which is even more exciting. You know, 691 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: they'll get better with time. Their rhythm will get better 692 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: over this next quarter of the season. Their rhythm will 693 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: be better in November and in December. And what they understand 694 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: and them setting up blocks and the offensive line learning 695 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: how they play. So I think they're scratching the surface. 696 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: You know, we haven't even thought about that. You know, 697 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: we're talking about JK and RJ number one because they're 698 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: getting the ball a lot, but this is the first 699 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: four weeks of their season ever playing for Sean Payton 700 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: and they're running back. Coach Show, Broncos Country should be 701 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: really excited about this running game. You're fifth in the 702 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: league in rushing. If we can talk about overreacting to moments, right, 703 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: if I had told Broncos fans for the first month 704 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: in the season the Broncos were fifth and rushing, they'd 705 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: be doing backflips like Daffy Duck's style. Hopefully you can 706 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: see more of that last few minutes here with Benny Fowler, 707 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: Benjamin all Bright Broncos Country tonight, coming up at the 708 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: top of the hour, high bend. 709 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: Not that guy, it's a nice sure you guy going there? 710 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: That's good. My favorites. 711 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, not lethal weapon, it's loaded weapon, the spoof and 712 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: it's in Japanese. 713 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: Well, it's nobody else has this shirt. No one on 714 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: earth has this shirt. 715 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: And it's a rare moment that you're not going the 716 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: deep v So I appreciate could have gotten this in 717 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: the you know, I'm supposed I could have a screen 718 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: print or something. But we got a really interesting game 719 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: for Thursday Night Football two three and one team is 720 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: the line on it though, eight and a half and 721 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: we'll get the official picks here in just a second. 722 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, Benniett. I know the forty nine ers 723 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: are really banged up. No Brock Purty, no Jwan Jennings, 724 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: no Ricky Piersoll, Nick Bosa, George Kittle, we know which 725 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: Ray Ryan's. I know it's a lot of guys, but 726 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: Kyle Jenahan and Sean McVay a lot of awareness of 727 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: each other, and Kyle Shanahan just plays some pretty tough 728 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: he does. But all of those injuries that you just 729 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: said makes me think that the Rams are going to 730 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: come out here and get this win. Pukin Nakua, it's 731 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: been on a tear. I think DeVante Adams is scored 732 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: in every game I believe, so I'm leaning towards the 733 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: Rams in this one. I don't think it's going to 734 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: be a blowout. Just you know Thursday night games, there's 735 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: not a lot of game planning going into it. They 736 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: both know each other really well, they both run similar 737 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: styles of offense. 738 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: But that the injuries for the forty nine ers, I 739 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: it's brutal. CMC. Does he go off tonight? See and that's. 740 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: Where I wonder if maybe for Kyle Shanahan it's actually 741 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: maybe dialed back a little bit there because you can't 742 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: lose him too Like, you gotta you gotta start what 743 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: is that not not quarantine, but you gotta triage. Yeah, 744 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: you gotta triage this thing a little bit. You're like, 745 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: all right, see, yeah, you're gonna get your normal twenty 746 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: carries or twenty touches. 747 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: In the game. 748 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: But we we don't. We can't afford to lose you too. Well, 749 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: he can't coach like that. So and it's a Thursday night. 750 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: If you don't, if you're gona coach like that, you 751 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't plan them. 752 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair, ben are you? Uh? I don't don't 753 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: tell me your pick. We'll get to your pick in 754 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 2: a second. 755 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 4: Oh. 756 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: I was gonna do this whole little bit, but it's fine. 757 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call the forty nine ers offense the board 758 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: identity because it's gonna be all Kendrick and they not 759 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: like us. 760 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: Disappointed. His faces right very quickly on Pogan Nakula. What 761 00:32:58,920 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: makes him so what. 762 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: Makes him so like incredibly difficult to cover? Well, Sean 763 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: McVay in the way that he uses him in the 764 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: offense moves him all around. 765 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: I think he can run any route in the route tree. 766 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: His hands, his creations, his separation ability, and I think 767 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: he just he knows. 768 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 2: He knows how to catch the ball. 769 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: He can make the dynamic catch, he can make the 770 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: simple catch, he can make the hard catch. But Sean 771 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: McVay moves him around and puts him in spots where 772 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: he's either inserting to block a certain guy, but then 773 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: he will also run that same motion, insert in the 774 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: same way and then run a corner route or an 775 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: out route, or run an over route. So he can 776 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: run any route in the route tree. They can move 777 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: him all over. He understands leverage and coverage and he's 778 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: able to make big time plays and he catches. 779 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: He's got mittens incredible