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Speaker 1: Well nobody dials anymore. Cell phone punch it out eight

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Mark madden X. I think the Steelers are

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Speaker 1: gonna win on Sunday, but I gotta be honest, and

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Speaker 1: you won't like this. They're not going anywhere. They're not

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Speaker 1: gonna get better by season's in. They're gonna be the

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Speaker 1: exact same team in week eighteen they are right now

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Speaker 1: in Week six, only older, tirer and more beat up.

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Speaker 2: That's what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: You look at the Giants Dart scatter Boat rookies improving.

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Speaker 1: You look at the Brons Gabriel Judskins rookies improving. You

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Speaker 1: look at the Penguins, new coach, Kids Bruning Kindle Coyvenon improving.

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Speaker 1: And then you look at the Steelers, same coach for

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Speaker 1: nineteen years, same old prehistoric approach, getting even more prehistoric.

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Speaker 1: Seven offensive linemen, and you know, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know where the season is headed.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk Evgeny Maukin.

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Speaker 1: Three points last night, five points in two games and

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Speaker 1: Gino was flying, flying. The old guys are energized by

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Speaker 1: the kids. Hey, it's not rocket surgery.

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Speaker 2: Geno, Carlson, Latang sid. You can see it. You can

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Speaker 2: see the trickle.

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Speaker 1: Down, the energy, the enthusiasm from kids to veterans, trickle up.

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Speaker 2: I guess you might call it. You can see it.

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Speaker 1: It might not last, but it's fun now and it

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Speaker 1: will lead to bigger and better if not.

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Speaker 2: This spring necessarily Dry wasn't great.

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Speaker 1: Battled the puck, but he battled period in the third

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Speaker 1: especially any won. But I felt that all three Islanders

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Speaker 1: goals was stoppable. It always just like disasters imminent with

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Speaker 1: Charian goal like at the end. But it did end well.

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Speaker 1: It was a fun game, a real fun game. I

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Speaker 1: would go back to shilloffs in goal tomorrow night when

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Speaker 1: the New York Rangers visit Pittsburgh. My god, Gino with

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Speaker 1: that geometry pass the Spring Brawsers for the money shot,

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Speaker 2: Like I said, a fun game, Yo.

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Speaker 1: You got the King and his castle, the captain with

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Speaker 1: PPG paints Serena Brunette got his first NHL goal.

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Speaker 2: You saw the new yellow units and helmets.

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Speaker 1: Not to be clear, that is yellow, not gold, but

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Speaker 1: it's coal. Looks good. Two thousand empty seats roughly, that's

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Speaker 1: not good. So we got a lot to talk about

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Speaker 1: down now. Eight three three four one two w XDX.

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Speaker 1: Follow me on Twitter at Mark madd and X. Come

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Speaker 1: see me at Big Fellas in Cannonsburg during the Steeler

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Speaker 1: game on Sunday. We not only have the Steelers hosting

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Speaker 1: Cleveland on Sunday, we have Northwestern at Penn State tomorrow

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Speaker 1: pit at Florida State. That seems big if I'm to

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Speaker 1: believe all their bs, all their horsemen were about how

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Speaker 1: the win over crappy crappy crappy crappy really bad BC

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Speaker 1: They're ranked twenty fifth. That's good, but it's not honorust.

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Speaker 1: It's a winnable game. So go win a big mouth

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Speaker 1: did that. Know what you did was lose to West Virginia.

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Speaker 1: That's almost as battle loss almost almost as battle loss

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Speaker 2: No, that should not have happened.

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Speaker 1: It did, shut the frig up and beat four the States.

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Speaker 1: Mario and the jumbo Tron was a surprise. He got

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Speaker 1: be okay. One game at a time. That's the Steeler way.

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Speaker 1: Big picture, take your big picture and shove it up

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Speaker 1: your ass. We think one game at a time. But

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Speaker 1: like I said, no risk it, no Biscuit. Steeler fans

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Speaker 1: night for the New York Football Giants, but it's really

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Speaker 2: The NFL thinks Johnson is better. This isn't about.

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Speaker 1: Drafting scata Bow and not having you know, taken him

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Speaker 1: you're so set in your ways after nineteen seasons, your

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Speaker 1: stalest And like I said, the Brons, the Giants, the Penguins,

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Speaker 1: which I always am. The Eagles got killed by the

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Speaker 1: Did you watch that game? I'm like Josh Showe had

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Speaker 1: even sure the Giants deserve to win as much the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Just there was no there there now that said they

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Speaker 1: Seriously, a lot of sports media isn't as good as

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Speaker 1: That's dumb. They're the defending super Bowl champions. They're born too.

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Speaker 1: I've chosen. We got Tim Ben's the bottom of the hour,

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Speaker 2: Oh and Danny Griffin from the River Hounds.

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Speaker 1: He'll join us in the five o'clock hour if the

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Speaker 2: They couldn't.

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Speaker 1: She had another playoff Berth, So let's see how many

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Speaker 1: would that be in a row? That would be their

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Speaker 1: eighth consecutive playoff Berth. That's tom lnesque if they don't

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Speaker 2: Did I say that out loud?

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Speaker 1: One oh five nine The X from the Seaton Hill

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Speaker 1: Yeah the ex at one five nine. Tim Ben's at

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour, Charlie Batson top of the hour.

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Speaker 1: A lot of great Steelers versus Browns talk all.

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Speaker 2: Day long on the show.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget, I'm a big fellows at Cannonsburg for a

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Speaker 1: On twelve forty five, a lot of pushback, no pun intended,

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Speaker 1: actually definitely intended. After the Philadelphia Eagles ran the tush push,

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Speaker 1: Smith on ESPN webbing to band the tush push after,

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Speaker 1: like I said, the Eagles ran at four straight times.

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Speaker 3: last night watching the Eagles do it on four consecutive plays.

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Speaker 2: They were all sides. That's my issue.

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Speaker 1: unquote like Steve and they said, this isn't porn. A

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Speaker 1: lot of football is boring, not just the Toush push.

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Speaker 1: especially off And if it is, if that seven offensive

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Speaker 1: you already would be it wouldn't be the alternative. Hey John, now, Pat,

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Speaker 1: He practiced today, but he was noncommittal about playing on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: But the defense without Ramsey will be okay. Tommy Radio

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Speaker 1: Joining me now to talk Steelers and Brons from the

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Speaker 1: trib he is Tim Benz. Tim, here's a pretty broad question,

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Speaker 1: but do the Steelers I have an identity on offense yet,

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Speaker 5: It's an identity that I don't think they want to admit.

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Speaker 5: It's cautious and coaching away from problems successfully enough to

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Speaker 5: But that's not much of an identity they're getting by.

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Speaker 5: I think that's their identity. They're relying on big chunk

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Speaker 5: But that's a tough way to live, Mark, I mean,

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Speaker 5: I get what they're thinking. You can't go for the

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Speaker 5: Because they can't block for him. But if you're scared

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Speaker 5: and that's really difficult to do. It's kind of looked

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Speaker 5: It's a lot like what we saw during the Kenny

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Speaker 1: Know what it reminds me of with regard to protecting

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Speaker 1: Rogers when Arians got fired because his offense didn't do

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Speaker 1: enough to protect Ben. He got sacked too much and

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Speaker 2: No biscuit.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this offense allows Rogers to be Rogers.

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Speaker 5: And part of that is, again they would never admit it,

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Speaker 5: And now they're even talking themselves out of it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, like, I think.

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Speaker 5: The fans in the media are trying to hold onto

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Speaker 5: just going back to thinking the tight end should be blockers.

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Speaker 5: So it's a tough position they've put Rogers in. And

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Speaker 5: I will modify one thing I said earlier, Mark, But

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Speaker 5: I said it's just like the Kenny and Mitch and.

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Speaker 5: That's not quite true, because Rogers is more proficient at

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Speaker 5: him to do than those quarterbacks were at their stages

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the tight end thing. The tight ends were supposed

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Speaker 2: I hate that formation, Tim.

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Speaker 1: I saw a stat that they're averaging four points seven

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Speaker 5: It makes it very predictable because what are you going

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Speaker 5: So yeah, stat like that is very much a self

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Speaker 5: I heard you talking about sort of fun stats with

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Speaker 6: I'll give you one.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure if Tom brought this up or not,

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Speaker 5: as good as the Browns defense is, it's poor when

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Speaker 6: They are.

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Speaker 5: Usually pretty good at taking away running backs catching the

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Speaker 5: the tight end's better be good because I don't know

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Speaker 6: A tight end over.

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Speaker 2: I know where it's going, It's going to the running backs.

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Speaker 1: The running backs have sixty four the touches that is

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: It's like if you keep looking at the other team

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Speaker 6: This, because they do that with.

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Speaker 5: you better have to use them, then they better remember

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Speaker 5: they seem to have forgotten that as well.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: Again, my big problem is not what it can do

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Speaker 1: let Rogers be Rogers. I mean, we talk about what

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Speaker 5: Exactly, And that's how they're gonna get themselves beaten. But

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Speaker 5: maybe not this week. I think they'll beat the Browns,

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Speaker 5: especially because it's in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Tim, that's the problem. That they're gonna beat

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Speaker 1: Then guys like me and you, I'm sorry, we're right

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Speaker 1: and Tomlin's wrong. That will be proven in fact us

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Speaker 1: and again. But they'll be four and one, maybe five

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Speaker 2: But we also know how it's gonna end.

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Speaker 6: And I think the proof of that, or the truth to.

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Speaker 5: It, will happen earlier than last year. The truth came

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Speaker 5: because their schedule was so bumpy in December. They've got

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Speaker 5: divisional games are pretty brutal and Steelers lore So and

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Speaker 5: but I think there's been a chapter or two there too,

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Speaker 5: So we'll see. If you can lose to Ryan Finley,

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Speaker 5: Then you got what Green Bay, Indie and La after that,

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Speaker 5: They had to score the Jets. But you know, they

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Speaker 5: It certainly helped them, and Boss Will kicked the sixty yarders,

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Speaker 5: so there were some asterisks there, but good enough to

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Speaker 5: those teams. Let's see what happens in October which generally

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Speaker 5: speaking has been their best month. I think under Tom

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Speaker 5: Win the last eight years.

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Speaker 2: Tim, how do you feel if you're.

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Speaker 1: John new and Friarmuth because they didn't sign up for this,

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Speaker 1: They signed up for a lot more, and I suspect

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Speaker 1: maybe open up a bit, you know, depending on opponent.

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Speaker 1: I think Friar Moose's the third string tight end period

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Speaker 5: I think by the way they're deploying the tight ends,

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Speaker 6: Be the case, and you're just gonna see.

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Speaker 5: Washington be whether he's named the starter or not, the

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Speaker 5: then you got to start thinking, Mark, like, what are

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Speaker 6: If you didn't if you saw limitations.

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Speaker 5: That were easily surpassed by Saquon Barkley's back up and

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Speaker 1: No, I, I Jim, I don't think they know what

438
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Speaker 1: they're doing. I don't care what their record is. I

439
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 1: think he's Lazzi coach. I think he's a Losi personnel guy.

440
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: They didn't need to keep Friarmouth at that price. They

441
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: didn't need to keep Hige Smith at that price. And

442
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 1: if they drafted Caleb Johnson, they should be using them.

443
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: What could people going nuts in Pittsburgh. Oh, we should

444
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: have drafted Scattabo. Look what he did last night for

445
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: New York. No, they should be giving Caleb Johnson carries.

446
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: Caleb Johnson is better than Scattabo. Caleb Johnson got drafted

447
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: around later than Judkins, and Jenkins is better. We saw

448
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: him at Ohio State. But look what he's doing for Cleveland.

449
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: This guy just won't play rookies unless unless there's no

450
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: other body to play.

451
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Speaker 5: Well, I think going back to, you know, the two

452
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 5: points that I brought up personnel wise that you might

453
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 5: be scratching your head about.

454
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Speaker 6: Depending on how guys are used moving forward, it's like

455
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 6: everything seems.

456
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Speaker 5: To default back to, Oh well, it doesn't matter, they're

457
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 5: not paying a quarterback.

458
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Speaker 6: Oh well, it doesn't matter they're not paying a quarterback,

459
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Speaker 6: all right, Like that's good farmers to get depth to

460
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Speaker 6: tight end. We not using any of the ties that

461
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 6: they early.

462
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 5: Have, and they have no depth at wide receiver, so

463
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 5: the ball has to go somewhere, especially if a team

464
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 5: is able to take away pass to the running backs,

465
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 5: which is again something to watch against Cleveland. Now these

466
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 5: two teams, they do have very similar attributes as well,

467
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 5: Like I'm really interested on the other side of the

468
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 5: ball to see which team gets out the quarterback more

469
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 5: because of miss Max's the tackle position, like you know,

470
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 5: Broderick trying to block Miles Garrett a lot of the time,

471
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 5: or whatever they decide to do at left tackle, trying

472
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 5: to block high Smith and or herbig and if they

473
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Speaker 5: put Watt over there.

474
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Speaker 6: Or if they try to decide to have like Conklin

475
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Speaker 6: block one on one.

476
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Speaker 5: Does what get free for a big day? And my god, Mark,

477
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 5: they really should create a turnover or two or just

478
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 5: back down three or four balls against Dylan Gabriel. That's

479
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 5: something this defensive line.

480
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Speaker 6: Is good at. And Gabriel is only five foot eleven,

481
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 6: so they should get a couple of those No.

482
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Speaker 2: I who hardly agree with that.

483
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Speaker 1: And with that in mind, let's switch over to talk

484
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 1: about Cleveland's defense and Miles Garrett. Do you think what

485
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: and Garrett see this is a rivalry game even though

486
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: they're never on the field. At the same time, I'm

487
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: curious because I mean, you know, Watson ego maniac. Garrett

488
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,479
Speaker 1: is uh probably that as well. We don't we're not

489
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: exposed to with as much here in Pittsburgh. But but uh,

490
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: I think they see this as a challenge, don't you.

491
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I do.

492
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Speaker 5: And I think we all know how sensitive Watt is

493
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 5: about it. I mean, we all saw at the night

494
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 5: that he won the award, you know, in Vegas, and

495
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 5: we all saw how acutely aware Garrett is of it

496
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 5: two when he you know, cut his promo after the

497
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 5: Browns beat the Steelers on Thursday Night Football in the

498
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 5: snowstorm last year. So yeah, I do think that these

499
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 5: guys see this as sort of a mono, a mono matchup,

500
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 5: even though they don't play against one another. I think

501
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 5: they very quickly look at the other guy's stack column

502
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 5: once they get back to the locker room and can

503
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 5: check out a box score to see who get better.

504
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: I think they do that every week. This time they'll

505
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: just be in the same stadium.

506
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, they'll just be doing it in opposite

507
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 5: locker rooms. And I think the opposite city has kind

508
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 5: of told the story more than anything. It's been much

509
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 5: more about Garrett doing damage in Cleveland than it has

510
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 5: been Garrett doing damage in Pittsburgh. Sometimes the damage was

511
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 5: to Mason Rudolph' skull.

512
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Speaker 1: In fact, Yeah, I'm hoping Rudolph gets in there and

513
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: gets his helmet ripped off and slung at him again.

514
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: That was very entertaining.

515
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: I don't see a lot of storylines about this game otherwise.

516
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 5: Now you want to stumble on one, like what if

517
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 5: Shaudur gets in, there's a storyline for the whole country.

518
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 5: Then it's stopped being a Pittsburgh Cleveland thing, then it's

519
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 5: a national thing.

520
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Speaker 2: And I think he will get in.

521
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Speaker 1: For those just tuning in, you know, he will be

522
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback, the number two. There was a report

523
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: that after trading Flaco Bailey, Zappy might jump off the

524
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: practice squad be the second quarterback, but that's not the case.

525
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Speaker 2: Shador will be the backup.

526
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Speaker 1: I think that's at the owner's behest, and I think

527
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: Tim also at the owner's behest. If Cleveland trails in

528
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: the third quarter and Gabriel's not playing well, it would

529
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Speaker 1: not surprise me at all if Shaeddor got in there,

530
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: how about you.

531
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't be stunned.

532
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Speaker 5: And I thought it was telling there's Mary Kaycabot from

533
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Speaker 5: Cleveland dot Com la the story that you know, she

534
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 5: said that Joe Flacco didn't ask for this trade, but

535
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 5: he was not at all upset that it happened, you know,

536
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 5: like getting out of this situation. I'm sure he's happy about,

537
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 5: even though he's going to what's also a bit of

538
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 5: a gong show right now in Cincinnati.

539
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 6: I don't know if you saw the clip mark.

540
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 5: It was pretty funny, but like, there are these two

541
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 5: guys in the Cincinnati Bengals podcast. I think there's the

542
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 5: two guys that covering for the athletic and he got

543
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 5: into this argument about like how the Bengals were gonna

544
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 5: get Flacco down from Cleveland the Cincinnati and the one

545
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 5: guy sort of said, just, you know, kind of off the cup. Well,

546
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 5: he'll jump on a flight and be here and be

547
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 5: here for practice tomorrow and they can get the other

548
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 5: guy cut them off. But wait, wait, wait, wait, you

549
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 5: actually think the Bengals will flat.

550
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 6: Down from Cleveland. They'll be lucky if they send a driver.

551
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 5: And they said that this whole argument, and then they

552
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 5: edited in a hard cut to Zach Taylor mentioning how

553
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 5: they send a car up to go get Joe Flacco.

554
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 6: So they could do a zoom meeting in.

555
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 5: The car in the four hour drive down from Cleveland,

556
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 5: which is just so Bengals. It was like welcome to

557
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 5: Cincinnati experience right off the hot for Flacco, and then

558
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 5: the real experience to be playing behind that offensive line

559
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 5: as he's trying to sit back in the pocket to

560
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 5: have time for Tea and Jamar Chase.

561
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Speaker 6: To get deep.

562
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Speaker 1: I will say, though, I think that he'll you know,

563
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: get the grasp of the offense. I think he's proven

564
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: to be very adaptable jumping from team to team and

565
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: in pretty quick fashion too. That said, I don't think

566
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: it will do them enough good. But yeah, I don't

567
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: blame him for getting for being glad he's out of there.

568
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the coach didn't even know he

569
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: was going to be traded Stefanski. I mean, clearly, clearly,

570
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: the whole Shador thing, from drafting him to everything that's

571
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: happened since is owner motivated. And that's just not a

572
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: good situation for nearly anybody involved in that includes Shador. Now,

573
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: we just got word ten moments ago that that Ramsey,

574
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: while he was a full participant for the Steelers is

575
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: up is questionable for the game Sunday, and that means

576
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: probably not as as we've experienced. How will that secondary

577
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: adjust without Ramsey? Because I'd like to see them be

578
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: less than vanilla against their rookie quarter and Dylan Gabriel.

579
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: But I suspect that's exactly what that defense will be.

580
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 6: Good question.

581
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 5: I've been thinking about that myself. I don't know if

582
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 5: this was Tomlin blowing smoke. It usually is, but when

583
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 5: he did the whole processing is Dylan Gabriel's superpower speech?

584
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 6: To me?

585
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 5: That felt forced, like trying to say, Okay, Dylan, we

586
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 5: think we you know what we're doing. We're just gonna

587
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 5: play defense. We're not gonna try to trick you. And

588
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 5: if Ramsey is on the injury report and doesn't play,

589
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 5: that plays into that as well. I mean, a rookie

590
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 5: still is a rookie. And whether it's like you guys

591
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 5: are talking about earlier Brandon Echols playing a different position,

592
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 5: or they do something different with where Chuck Clark lines

593
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 5: up as opposed to to Sean Elliott, like saying something

594
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 5: along those lines, they might still try to fool him

595
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 5: into something. My thing is we've started to see this year,

596
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 5: particularly in the last few games, it's not so much

597
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 5: about trying to cons use them with coverage in the secondary.

598
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 5: I would try to confuse them with blitzeres on who's

599
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 5: coming at the second level.

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Speaker 6: I want to see it.

601
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 5: Maybe Elliott is a factor and that is one defensive back,

602
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 5: but I don't want to see them try to confuse Gabriel.

603
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 6: So what gap Queen or Peyton.

604
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 5: Wilson are blitzing in the middle of Like that sort

605
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 5: of thing is where I want to see them throw

606
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 5: him off, like throw him off with the pass rush

607
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,959
Speaker 5: more so than throw them off with the coverage.

608
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: Is there any way they lose this game?

609
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: And when the answer to that is no, I'm aware

610
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: that's when the trouble usually starts. In some ways, it

611
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: does feel like a Tomlin's Special, especially with so much

612
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: of the national media conceding the Steelers the AFC North.

613
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 5: Right, and that is the very definition. It's a typical

614
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 5: Tomlin trap game, which isn't so typical. And you know,

615
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 5: like these are the ones where you look at them

616
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 5: and say, this one can't possibly be it, and then

617
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 5: it happens three weeks in a row like we saw

618
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three when they played against the Cardinal

619
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 5: at home, the Patriots at home in Indianapolis, Like, there's

620
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 5: no way they could lose all three of those than

621
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 5: they did and the Mason saved the season, of course,

622
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 5: But yeah, this game was in Cleveland, despite the records,

623
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 5: despite Cleveland coming back from Europe, despite the Steelers coming

624
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 5: off of bye. I'd probably pick the Browns, but for

625
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 5: those reasons, it's home. It's the first true road game

626
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 5: for Gabriel in Division against the Steelers. I think the

627
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 5: Steelers win. I have it at twenty one to sixteen.

628
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 5: Maybe it's a little lower scoring than that, but you

629
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 5: know this, that might also be a game mark where

630
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 5: Boswell plays a factor. Again, as Tom was talking about,

631
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 5: if you get in the red zone, you can score

632
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 5: against Cleveland, and the Steelers have been really good in

633
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 5: the red zone. But this also might be a game

634
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 5: where if the Browns stall out a drive like they

635
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 5: do to other teams, it still results in points. So

636
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 5: maybe it's more like twenty four to sixteen or something

637
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 5: along those lines, or however you want to chop up

638
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 5: the match.

639
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 6: With a couple of boswell field goals.

640
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 5: But I could finally see him in printing a game

641
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 5: for the first time since the Jets game.

642
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: Tim, I totally agree, but let me offer a disclaimer.

643
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: I think the Brons are confident because they have those

644
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: rookies playing, that energy that trickles down. I think they

645
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: are improving, not by leaps and bounds, but to some

646
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: small degree. I don't think they'll come into this game

647
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: assuming that their cannon fodder.

648
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: I don't think they'll be intimidated or bullied.

649
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 5: So say, it's almost like the Penguin thing, and that

650
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 5: with all those young guys playing, they're too dumb to

651
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 5: know that they're bad. So if they're to them know

652
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 5: that they're bad, they might actually play better.

653
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: I've been talking all day.

654
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: I look at the Giants with Scatibow and Dart, I

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Speaker 1: look at the Browns with Gabriel and Judkins. I look

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Speaker 1: at the Penguins with a new coach and all those kids,

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Speaker 1: and uh, I know those teams are getting better. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if they'll get good enough, you know, by

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Speaker 1: season's end, but all three of those teams are getting better.

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Speaker 1: I expect the Steelers will be worse in Week eighteen

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Speaker 1: than they are right now, because they'll be older more

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Speaker 1: tired and banged up.

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Speaker 6: I want to make a cost here.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers don't look to improve. They just look to

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Speaker 2: be the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: Well right now, until they re form their quarterback position

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Speaker 5: with whoever they draft, and that's looking less and less

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Speaker 5: likely every week based on how they're playing, the standings

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Speaker 5: and the lack of standout performance at quarterback in college football.

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Speaker 5: But until that happens, then they're just going to try

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Speaker 5: to improve their position enough from nine wins to eleven

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Speaker 5: wins to maybe host a playoff game so they can

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Speaker 5: win one. You can get that monkey off of everybody's back.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no question. But I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean I it frustrates me that the Steelers never ever,

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Speaker 1: for one moment, we'll get the big picture, never ever

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Speaker 1: look further than the next game. And it's how you

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Speaker 1: pointedly do not get better. And I know that because

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Speaker 1: they never do.

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Speaker 5: You are the one guy in the world listening by

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Speaker 5: Tom and say I'm not a big picture guy, and

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Speaker 5: you were saying, yet, that's right, you sure aren't.

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Speaker 1: No, Tim, I think a lot of people agree with that.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think too many of them say it

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Speaker 1: out loud. Tim, great stuff, thank you, enjoy the game Sunday.

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Speaker 6: Mark, thanks a bunch, talk to you on Monday for

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Speaker 6: the podcast.

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Speaker 2: That's Tim Benz.

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Speaker 2: me for well. Will I have the car? Okay?

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