WEBVTT - 2-11-26 Sloan with Meeka Owens

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<v Speaker 1>Scott flowing back on seven hundred w WELW show. You're streaming,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on your phone, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Got devices in the background. Things are going all. Everything's good.

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<v Speaker 2>You're using all this data. And then one day one

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<v Speaker 2>of those platforms you're on, or maybe all of them

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<v Speaker 2>slow down. You get that spinning wheel of frustration. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on? This thing sucks? It's broken. No, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the AI boom. Okay, so we're all on our phone,

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<v Speaker 2>we're all using stuff. AI comes along puts even more

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<v Speaker 2>stress on the system. You may not think you're using AI.

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<v Speaker 2>You're using AI as we speak. So people in Mount

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<v Speaker 2>orb in Maysville and Butler County and Wilmington for that matter,

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<v Speaker 2>taking a hard look if they want them in their towns.

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<v Speaker 2>So the City of Cincinnati is getting very proactive on this,

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<v Speaker 2>putting a temporary moratorium on new data centers while they

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<v Speaker 2>do a zoning stead of review. It's not a band,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a pause. And she is part of the

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<v Speaker 2>Housing and Growth Committee, and that would be council Member

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<v Speaker 2>Mika d Owens and the D stands for data Meka,

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<v Speaker 2>good morning, how are you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the same. Well, that's a good one. That sounds great. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I am doing well. Thank you so much for having

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<v Speaker 3>me this morning. Very excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so obviously major corporations need them, we get pg

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<v Speaker 2>Kroger fifth or they require data infrastructure we have more demand.

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<v Speaker 2>People in the city would often talk about the urban

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<v Speaker 2>areas being a desert for connectivity when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>high speed that would help with this thing. So starting

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<v Speaker 2>with the basics here, city doesn't even have a zoning

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<v Speaker 2>definition for data centers right now. So has there been

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<v Speaker 2>any interest from the outside the facilities up to this

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<v Speaker 2>point and what triggered this need for moratorium in the

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<v Speaker 2>point where literally you want to vote on this today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, first of all, I think it's important that

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<v Speaker 3>we recognize we are in an AI zone similar to

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Internet, and so what that means that

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<v Speaker 3>this technology is here, It's on your iPhone, it's everywhere,

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<v Speaker 3>as you indicated, and so you know, this is not

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<v Speaker 3>a question of whether or not just going to grow.

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<v Speaker 3>It's how organizations, companies and cities jurisdictions get ready for

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<v Speaker 3>this type of technology, revitalization or resolution, whatever you want

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<v Speaker 3>to call it. And so what this step is is

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<v Speaker 3>really a pactive step that will help us to one

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<v Speaker 3>define what data centers are and you know data center

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<v Speaker 3>centers in terms of being able to run AI. It's all.

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<v Speaker 3>Also the concern is the industry consumption that it is

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<v Speaker 3>required to do that. So the first step is, let's

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<v Speaker 3>pop to define this. Let's look at areas of the

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<v Speaker 3>city where this might occur. So we're looking at twenty

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand parcels and what that will do is really

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<v Speaker 3>healthy administration to get in to one get more educational

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<v Speaker 3>understanding and create a framework around if somebody actually wants

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<v Speaker 3>to come to the city and create one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and that is probably sooner rather than later. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>a pause, not a ban. But so let's say P

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<v Speaker 2>and G or Kroger they're working on something. You know

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<v Speaker 2>that they're always expanding, and you have a new CEO.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously Kroger, you've got there's a need to expand. If

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<v Speaker 2>they need to expand their data infrastructure during this temporary period,

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<v Speaker 2>this this moratorium, are they grandfather? Then what do you

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<v Speaker 2>what do you tell the biggest employers and some of

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest companies in the world you can't have it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's going to be a part of the engagement

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<v Speaker 3>that the administration is going to have to do while

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<v Speaker 3>they are getting all of the pieces on the administrative

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<v Speaker 3>side by way of zoning and definition and the totity

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<v Speaker 3>Court nation. They're going to do that over the next

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<v Speaker 3>couple of months and hopefully we get to a point

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<v Speaker 3>of better understanding so that we actually know what to

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<v Speaker 3>do in a situation like that. We also know that

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<v Speaker 3>there are different types of data centers. You know, most

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<v Speaker 3>people probably think of them as some large warehouse off

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<v Speaker 3>of the side of the interstate, but they could also

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<v Speaker 3>be a small room with with with servers. So we

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<v Speaker 3>want to recognize with the landscape is. And so that's

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<v Speaker 3>the work that's going to happen over the next couple

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<v Speaker 3>of months. And if we don't have and that also

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<v Speaker 3>insos public engagement and so the pieces that are needed

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<v Speaker 3>with you know, we don't have those in the next

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<v Speaker 3>couple of months, they can also extend so that the

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<v Speaker 3>work can continue until we get to a firmer place

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<v Speaker 3>of having answers to these question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, I think that makes sense in

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<v Speaker 2>the Central Business District obviously, no go. But there's land

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<v Speaker 2>all over the place in Cincinnati and also in Hambling

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<v Speaker 2>County for that matter where you look at it, going, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>there's what they need is they need they need electricity.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to that in a second to power these things,

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<v Speaker 2>but they also need water to cool everything off.

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<v Speaker 1>In the data centers.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got the Ohio River right there, you know, worried

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<v Speaker 2>about in some of these counties, you know, like folks

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<v Speaker 2>in Adams County or Butler County, masl Kentucky and elsewhere

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<v Speaker 2>more of Wilmington, they're worried about taking all the groundwater

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<v Speaker 2>out and that's a huge problem for those communities. You

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<v Speaker 2>really don't have that with the plentiful water in the

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio River that gets pumped back in anyway. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in that you're also in proxi many of the big companies,

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<v Speaker 2>but also the people and Cincinnati needs needs that infrastructure

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to data and when comes to the

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<v Speaker 2>ability to get more products online and get people connected.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's a it's a beautiful fit I think

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<v Speaker 2>for some of these cities. And you've got the you

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<v Speaker 2>got the space, and you're not saying no, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think just being near the Ohio River is a bonus here.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, absolutely, that is the attraction to the Midwest

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<v Speaker 3>and specifically you know, Cincinnati and other jurisdictions, and so

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<v Speaker 3>it is. It is all a part of the changing

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<v Speaker 3>pollution in our environment and changing climates and changing temperature.

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<v Speaker 3>The Midwest is going to be so attractive because we

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<v Speaker 3>see the erosion that is happening on the coast right

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<v Speaker 3>the West Coast Coast fire was all of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>So just by that, you know, we have got to

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<v Speaker 3>get ready for folks who are coming to this network region. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>our natural water water source is a benefit, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>also something that we need to protect. Again as we

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<v Speaker 3>will look at data usage and energy consumption, and yes,

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<v Speaker 3>water is a part of that. So these are all

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<v Speaker 3>the important elements, which is why the city is taking

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<v Speaker 3>a step to say, hey, let's uncover all of this,

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<v Speaker 3>because we are seeing this evolve over the news and

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<v Speaker 3>around the world, and Cincinnati is no different than any

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<v Speaker 3>other city in this country trying to innswer these questions.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're putting ourselves in a really great position

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<v Speaker 3>by saying, hey, let's go ahead and do and overlay

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<v Speaker 3>on a certain area of the city so that we

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<v Speaker 3>can actually get ready. Because the last thing we would

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<v Speaker 3>want to do is to have one data centers just

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<v Speaker 3>popping up all over the place, and then they're you know,

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<v Speaker 3>taking a lot of good demands off of the bridge.

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<v Speaker 3>And so because right everyone spects to come home and

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<v Speaker 3>power their home and with on the lights and all

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<v Speaker 3>of those things, and those that are using solo panels,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that's also quite exciting. And so it becomes

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<v Speaker 3>a moment where we can think about, one, how do

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<v Speaker 3>we actually mitigate interview consumption by way of all of

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<v Speaker 3>these things that could be incentives to help reduce demands. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, solar panels and all of the abolt.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, now's the time to look at this, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad you are, Mika Owens. You know, I was just

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<v Speaker 2>thinking top of my head the Queen's Gate area, lower

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<v Speaker 2>Price Hill, that area is in need of development, and

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<v Speaker 2>the question is what to do after the New Brunch

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<v Speaker 2>bench Bridge corridor projects done. Hell, we haven't started digging

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<v Speaker 2>the holes yet, that that'd be a good time maybe

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<v Speaker 2>to put the pipe in the like in at that

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<v Speaker 2>point to get the water into the intake and outflow

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<v Speaker 2>from the Ohio River. I mean, just now's the time

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<v Speaker 2>to be thinking about, Hey, where could we put one

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<v Speaker 2>of these big plants in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. I mean Queens Queen's Gate, aliso A Mountains, the

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<v Speaker 3>West End is a place that has so much promise

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<v Speaker 3>considering what happened and what devastated that community. I seventy

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<v Speaker 3>five and you know you had it was a plus

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<v Speaker 3>storing place for black people in this city. You end

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<v Speaker 3>up migrating in other spaces. We think about the Western

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<v Speaker 3>it definitely has to include housing and you know, amenities

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<v Speaker 3>and syntheist as well. And so you know, somebody an

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<v Speaker 3>exciting conversation to think about what that mix of things

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<v Speaker 3>look like for the Western right.

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<v Speaker 2>Mika Owen's council person on the Scotsland Show on seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred WLWD city trying to fast track a temporary moratorium

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<v Speaker 2>just a pause data centers coming to the City of

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati and trying to get some policy together. Uh. But

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, I look at Columbus and Columbus

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<v Speaker 2>is rolling out the red carpet for Meta and Amazon

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<v Speaker 2>and Google Data. Why are we pumping the brakes If

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<v Speaker 2>Columbus is moving forward, are we going to get left behind?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? And that's what we don't want, right and so

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<v Speaker 3>I think what we need to do right now is

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<v Speaker 3>define what data centers are, and maybe Columbus look ahead

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<v Speaker 3>of us and doing that. We're currently in our code

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<v Speaker 3>are learning, so we have no definition. So it's important

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<v Speaker 3>for us to stop recognize what a data center might be,

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<v Speaker 3>put that define to it so that the underlying zoning

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<v Speaker 3>is appropriate. So at the end of the day, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about character in a particular community and maintaining

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<v Speaker 3>that esthetic and quality, all of those pieces have to

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<v Speaker 3>be built in at the base level. So you know, again,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe Coumbus zoning UH is exponentially you know, moving moving

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<v Speaker 3>quicker than ours, but we certainly want to to your point,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a moment of revolution where we cannot be

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<v Speaker 3>left behind, not only by way of policy and how

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<v Speaker 3>we use this in the at the city, but also

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<v Speaker 3>by way of attracting new businesses to the signal to

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<v Speaker 3>the region.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha, gotcha? Mika Owens on the show, where are you

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<v Speaker 2>at Kroger? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>You checking out? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Gosh? I started, I sent so funny. I am at

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<v Speaker 3>a coffee shop in college tail. You know, a girl

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<v Speaker 3>got many things to do in the morning. We could

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<v Speaker 3>do model tacting, but I do want to say Scott

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<v Speaker 3>just one thing about the small your as fictions and

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<v Speaker 3>the county at large. This is where you know, commissioners

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<v Speaker 3>will have to tackle with this issue because when we

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<v Speaker 3>think about land availability and we think about smollogiers, fictions

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<v Speaker 3>that are not even set up with departments like planning

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<v Speaker 3>and dealing with zoning reform, these are the questions that

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<v Speaker 3>certainly we will have to wrestle with and be prepared for.

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<v Speaker 2>Has the city had or scheduled talks with Duke Energy

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<v Speaker 2>to see if they are great our infrastructure locally can

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<v Speaker 2>handle this or is that too.

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<v Speaker 3>Far out that that's the part of what what will

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<v Speaker 3>happen over the next three months while you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>administration is doing this work, so we're talking about the

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<v Speaker 3>deep uh nitty gritty detail information that will be needed

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<v Speaker 3>to to to make this viable, right and so uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, engaging with with Duke is at the top

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<v Speaker 3>of the list. Uh. And then you know, as it

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<v Speaker 3>relates to how do we really coordinate energy and utility

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<v Speaker 3>usage if someone wants to come here and open a

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<v Speaker 3>data center, is the.

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<v Speaker 2>Three months moratorium a hard deadline? Because you know, personally

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<v Speaker 2>I think it should be because too often in government

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<v Speaker 2>and you've seen this Meka Owens where it's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>give us three months, Well we need another three months. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>next thing, you know, it's a year and no one's

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<v Speaker 2>talking to anybody, and now the fruit is just withering

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<v Speaker 2>on the vine and we're getting passed by. I mean, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>do the due diligence. I you know, you know the

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<v Speaker 2>residents and other areas that are undergoing this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you should be.

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<v Speaker 2>Involved in your community and decide what's going on. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no question about it in this case. I just wonder

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you go okay, and then we're onto the next thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and next thing, you know, it's like P and G

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<v Speaker 2>and Kroger are thinking about moving out because they need

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<v Speaker 2>they need more more data and they can't get it

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<v Speaker 2>because you're you're sitting on things.

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<v Speaker 1>So will this wrap up in three months?

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<v Speaker 3>We're hoping so. But I think what's what's key here

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<v Speaker 3>is quality and not necessarily the speed of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the speed of getting there is really getting the right

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<v Speaker 3>answer to the question. And so while the administration is

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<v Speaker 3>moving towards, you know, being doing this in three months,

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<v Speaker 3>first of all, we still have to pass this today,

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<v Speaker 3>but we are giving some flexibility for an extension if

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<v Speaker 3>we don't uncover all of the things that we need

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<v Speaker 3>to because at the end of the day, you have

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<v Speaker 3>one not only the responsibility of cities to really do

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<v Speaker 3>this and look at this and examine this thoroughly, but

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<v Speaker 3>you also have concerns from citizens who some of us

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<v Speaker 3>don't even know what AI is or what it does.

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<v Speaker 3>And so we're also in an environment where we all

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<v Speaker 3>have to get educated on this revolution because again, it's

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<v Speaker 3>in all of our lives right now and it's here

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<v Speaker 3>to stay. And as I've been in AI conversation just

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<v Speaker 3>with you know, some stakeholders in the city, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the pieces is, yes, let's educate ourselves on how to

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<v Speaker 3>use this as an everyday user as a resident. And

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<v Speaker 3>so there's a lot that I think in the next.

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<v Speaker 2>Three months, no question about mick owens, the more times

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<v Speaker 2>in place. It's going to go on for three months,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully not much longer than that, and we can't fall behind.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that already.

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<v Speaker 2>But at top of your mind, what are the most

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<v Speaker 2>adverse in facts you're concerned about in your mind?

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<v Speaker 1>Is is it energy costs? Is for the environment? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it noise? Is it traffic or something else?

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<v Speaker 3>The highest concern for me would be energy consumption. So

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<v Speaker 3>if we can figure out the correct balance to that,

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to be priority. Again. We have done so

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<v Speaker 3>much work on the groups of NATI Plan and continuing

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<v Speaker 3>to be responsible to our natural resources will always be

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<v Speaker 3>the city highest priority.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, obviously the city's behind moving forward with a data

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<v Speaker 2>center somewhere, and I know that. I've talked to people

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<v Speaker 2>before and said, well, it's difficult to build up with

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<v Speaker 2>a huge data center. You know, we have some big

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<v Speaker 2>empty buildings. It'd be great for that, but the problem

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<v Speaker 2>is that the batteries waste much. It's about floor loading,

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<v Speaker 2>and you just can't build a floor the cost. It's

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<v Speaker 2>cost prohibited build upward because of the weight of these buildings,

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<v Speaker 2>so it has to be more expensive. Although there's some

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<v Speaker 2>areas in other cities where they're doing smaller data centers

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<v Speaker 2>as well, and maybe a number of smaller data centers

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<v Speaker 2>versus a big one, but then of course there's that

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<v Speaker 2>there's that cost issue for these big companies doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether it's it's good to put it in since.

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<v Speaker 1>Of that or not.

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<v Speaker 2>It'd be nice if you guys go, hey, listen, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to set aside an area or a district or

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<v Speaker 2>here's here's there's three different sites you can choose from.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll pick one and we'll get you a deal on

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<v Speaker 2>the property because it's being unused and it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>add to the tax space. And so it's an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>for local government here to be forward thinking and get

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<v Speaker 2>their arms around the problem we're all going to face

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<v Speaker 2>at some point.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure. Yeah, absolutely all of the above, which is

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<v Speaker 3>why you know, creating this overlay district is important. And

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<v Speaker 3>what we have asked the administration to also do is

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<v Speaker 3>to consider policies that would helps supplement what they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be uncovering. And so by way of yes, are

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<v Speaker 3>there is their need for certain instances, is their need

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<v Speaker 3>to uh look at things like you know cras and

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<v Speaker 3>uh and other you know abatement strategies that will help

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<v Speaker 3>to be not cost prohibited but actually helped to get

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<v Speaker 3>projects across the finish line, right by which you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we're making sure that one we are you know, energy

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<v Speaker 3>consumption as it's popular with and that not being a

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<v Speaker 3>at first impact.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at communities around and I'm sure at some point,

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<v Speaker 2>if you haven't already make it you're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to folks in more mount orb for example, where you

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<v Speaker 2>get a small genets packed with people because they're worried

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<v Speaker 2>about the data center coming in and what it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to do to their community and quality of life, which

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<v Speaker 2>are reasonable concerns. Even if you come up with a

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<v Speaker 2>plan for this too, I'd imagine there's gonna be sizeable

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<v Speaker 2>backlash from people in the Cincinnati community that's simply regardless

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<v Speaker 2>of how well thought out it is, simply don't want it.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you address those people?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we ask the administration and in the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in this process which early outlines that you have to

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<v Speaker 3>do a public hearing on these things. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>we want to go a buzz and beyond that because

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<v Speaker 3>of the sensitivity of this, uh, this conversation around AI,

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<v Speaker 3>and so what we're thinking is that this will look

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, engagement that is not similar sometimes when

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<v Speaker 3>we're kind of a directing some of these zoning issues

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<v Speaker 3>to that point, so that we can address people's concerns upfront,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's the moment where we're all learning, truly, and

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<v Speaker 3>the administration, uh, you know, acknowledges that, and so they're

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<v Speaker 3>just going to have to take the time to do

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<v Speaker 3>the right work, the quality work, to make sure we

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<v Speaker 3>are moving in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, coffee you're going with this morning at the coffee shop? There?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you got?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? You know, sometimes I'm a lot taker to go

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<v Speaker 3>grab it, but I love vanilla.

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<v Speaker 1>You like you like a grande. You a big one.

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<v Speaker 1>You bring your own mug. What do you got work

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<v Speaker 1>in Armica?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Well, you know, I always enjoyed turning out of

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<v Speaker 3>the mud, so hopefully they have. But even if don't,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's nice to be in a coffee with

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<v Speaker 3>good people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you also have to get like a giant

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<v Speaker 2>jug of water for that flower that you wear on

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<v Speaker 2>your lapel?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I try to make Marty water me as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I know one of these days, you know, someone might

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<v Speaker 3>come up and try to smell it, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I'm afraid water is gonna shoot out at

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<v Speaker 2>me though.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing I know, that gag.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's your hook and it works. It works for

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<v Speaker 2>that thing is. It's awesome and it's good to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you, Mika. You have a great day. Okay, thanks again,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, she's a council member. Mika Owens on the

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<v Speaker 2>show on seven hunderd WW from easily the loudest coffee

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<v Speaker 2>shop in Cincinnati. It was in CVG or something. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not quite sure, but Meek always a pleasure to talk to.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is an issue that's gonna hit all of

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<v Speaker 2>us somewhere, no matter where you live. There's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the issue of bringing in AI data center in

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<v Speaker 2>and it's something we demand. It's it's hard to vilify

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<v Speaker 2>the companies that are doing this because it's me and

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<v Speaker 2>you that are driving it. And that's the whole nimby thing. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>News on the Way, when a return on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll keep at Cincinnata. Christy Samage here from three CDC.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, the convention center's open. They got ten point

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<v Speaker 2>one million for the naming rights. And now what about

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<v Speaker 2>that big hotel? When can we get this whole thing done?

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<v Speaker 2>News first though, on seven hundred WLW