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Speaker 1: ULW. It is nine oh eight three hours of lie

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Speaker 1: Radio coming your way, Live Radio. It's Thursday night edition

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Speaker 1: of the MIDWEK Crisis. I'm Dan Carroll, our old buddy

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Speaker 1: Russ Jackson running the big board in the seven hundred

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Speaker 1: WLW command Center. So much stuff to get to tonight.

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Speaker 1: It is absolutely unbelievable how much stuff is going on.

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Speaker 1: The wheels are turning everywhere you alert. So we are

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Speaker 1: going to touch on as much of that as possible

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Speaker 1: between now and midnight tonight. And thank you for being here.

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Speaker 1: If you want to pick up the phone five one, three,

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Speaker 1: Big One. But I want to start tonight and talk

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Speaker 1: about a I want to plug an event that is

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Speaker 1: coming up this weekend, Saturday night at the south Gate House.

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Speaker 1: And uh, this is called the John and Julie Cancer

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Speaker 1: Foundation tenth Annual Rock and Roll Revival or rock and

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Speaker 1: Roll or I'm not I'm reading that wrong. It's a

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Speaker 1: tenth annual Rock and Revival. I should have got that

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Speaker 1: right the first time. But I am joined now by

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Speaker 1: the guy who is putting this thing together. Not only

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Speaker 1: is he putting this together, he is also going to

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Speaker 1: perform at this event. He is the lead vocalist and

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Speaker 1: guitarist for a band called The Grove. Adam Forrestoffel is

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Speaker 1: our guest tonight and Adam forrestoff great to have you here.

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Speaker 1: I love this part about your band the Black Crows

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Speaker 1: meets the Red Hot Chili Peppers. That's pretty good. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: did you write that?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm great man? Did you write that?

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Speaker 3: Live?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You're We are on the air, brother, we are on

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Speaker 1: the air.

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Speaker 4: It's great to be here.

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Speaker 1: Did you write that part yourself about the Black Crows

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Speaker 1: meets the Red Hot Chili Peppers?

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Speaker 5: You know, you must you must have found that from

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Speaker 5: a from a couple of years ago, because we did

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Speaker 4: But gosh, it's time. And you know what we talked about.

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Speaker 5: Was just our influences and things like that, and you

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Speaker 5: we constantly change our sound, but I would say.

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Speaker 4: That was that was a big influence.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I was, well yeah, yeah, when I when

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Speaker 1: I you know, we we knew a few days ago

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Speaker 1: so I said, you know why I should probably just

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Speaker 1: take a look at the south Gate House uh website,

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Speaker 1: And of course all you know, all the information about

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Speaker 1: the uh, all the bands that are playing that in

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Speaker 1: this event on Saturday night is all right there. The

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Speaker 1: Rock and Revival tenth Annual. Ten years now. You've been

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Speaker 1: doing this and and you sent me, uh some information

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Speaker 1: on this, and I'm looking. I'm looking at it and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, there's a pretty good list of bands

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Speaker 1: right there. And then I'm like, oh, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: here's another list of bands. And then wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: here's another list of bands. And then wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: here's right. You've got You've got all these bands playing

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Speaker 1: All the money to gets raised by this gets donated

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Speaker 1: to the calls to help families out that are suffering

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Speaker 1: with cancer right now. But it must be gratifying to

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Speaker 1: be part of that musical community. Yeah, and have so

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Speaker 1: many people that you know in this business come together

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Speaker 5: I want to say a few things, like, first of all,

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Speaker 5: it's it's a crucial point of this event, which is

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Speaker 5: why it's called the Rock and Revival of the The

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Speaker 5: venue is called the south Gate House Revival, so it's

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Speaker 5: kind of ending for the venue. But you know the

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Speaker 5: background of how this all occurred is that my father

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Speaker 5: new kind of meaning. Now it's that it's it's my parents.

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Speaker 5: That's you mentioned the John and Julie Cancer Foundation, and

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Speaker 5: that's my parents, John and Julie.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's you know, it's an.

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Speaker 5: Amazing event, and it's been all about taking a negative

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Speaker 1: Well in that sense, you know when you talk about

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Speaker 1: think there's a lot of people listening to us that

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Speaker 1: You got that. It's it's the most unfair thing that

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Speaker 1: cancer and it's just it's just not fair. And family

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Speaker 1: is like yours, for God's sake, and you've had more

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Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing that you're you're reaching out to

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Speaker 5: Help, right And you know you mentioned already earlier that

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Speaker 5: part of it is that they're donating their time because

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Speaker 5: I bet a lot of them have been affected by cancer. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean we've we've overall, we've turned over one hundred

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Speaker 1: I mean this is year ten and we're I.

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Speaker 5: Think we're training more towards one point fifty and you know,

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Speaker 5: it's all for a cause, and it's been really rewarding.

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Speaker 4: And again, I know of them.

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Speaker 5: But taking a negative and turning it into a positive

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Speaker 5: my parents. I have amazing parents. They got dealt bad

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I think regulars of the Cincinnati and

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Speaker 1: then the Tri State music scene will take a look

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Speaker 1: at the list of bands you've got playing there, and

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Speaker 1: then they'll recognize a lot of these names, and of course,

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Speaker 1: aside from yourselves, you don't get a bigger headliner in

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Speaker 1: So Bronson Arroyos. And if you've never seen Bronson Arroyo before,

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Speaker 1: I've seen him a couple of times, met him a

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Speaker 1: and he's he's a fantastic guy, super talented. And at

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Speaker 1: the south Gatehouse, like you were saying, you've got all

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Speaker 1: an up close and personal experience with these artists that

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Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, And you're right, Bronson Royo is like, you know,

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Speaker 4: Mean he's a Cincinnati legend.

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Speaker 5: I mean we know him all.

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Speaker 5: And you know it's funny, I mean, I something about

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Speaker 4: I keep going back to the Reds because when I was.

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Speaker 5: Full circle that I'm I'm going back and I'm I'm

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Speaker 5: a gig with him. Really it's pretty pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: So we addam foresaw for again. The event is the

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Speaker 1: tenth Annual Rock and Revival. Of course I butchered the

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Speaker 1: at the south Gate House thing, and it pretty much

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Speaker 1: runs all day Saturday, Is that right?

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Speaker 5: I mean practically by the time you roll out of bed,

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Speaker 4: Oh, I mean it's going.

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Speaker 1: All day, all day, And so is it? Is it

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely. It is twenty five dollars.

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Speaker 5: You get there and from there you can watch every

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Speaker 1: Twenty five bucks for a full day of music and

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Speaker 1: Julie Cancer Foundation Aside from the south Gatehouse website, is

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, what I would do is go to you know, Instagram,

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Speaker 5: you can go rock and then and the letter N

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Speaker 5: Revival is our Instagram page. There's a ticket link on that.

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Speaker 5: I'm Other than that, the Grove band is our Instagram page.

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Speaker 5: I'd like to plug those. We are working on a website.

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Speaker 5: You know, I just talked to some people and we're

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Speaker 4: And it's it's it's been amazing.

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Speaker 5: So you know, I get a lot of people volunteering

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Speaker 5: found is that when people go to this event, they

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Speaker 5: keep going to this event. And so Dan, I think

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Speaker 5: if you go, you're gonna love it, and I think

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Speaker 4: And I mean that sincerely.

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Speaker 1: Well, Adam, I'll tell you what. I appreciate that, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I wish you the best of luck. Now tell everybody

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Speaker 1: your set list. I'm just kidding, all right, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. You can't you can't. You can't that

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Speaker 1: out on the air, But yeah, you can find out

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Speaker 1: all about it tenth Annual Rock and Revival at the

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Speaker 1: twenty five bucks and it's really all the music you

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Speaker 1: Wilber, it's great to have you back on the show.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, congratulations on you on the verge

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Speaker 1: to make the case that this is something that has

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Speaker 1: been going on since nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 4: Oh I Ran declared war for war on us the

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Speaker 4: nineteen second, and they've been at war with US ever since.

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Speaker 4: It's just been a one side war. We we've not

443
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Speaker 4: you know, we've not responded. You know, I can't you know,

444
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Speaker 4: I can't count the number of Americans that have been

445
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Speaker 4: murdered at the hands of the Iranians or their their proxies.

446
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Speaker 4: And and that's not counting the deaths of our military

447
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Speaker 4: in Iraq and Afghanistan and those that were horribly named

448
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Speaker 4: for the rest of their lives as a result of

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Speaker 4: the you know, the e FP of roadside bombs, that

450
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Speaker 4: the that the Iranians introduced into you know, the Iraqi theater,

451
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Speaker 4: in the Afghanistan theater of war. So you know, this

452
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Speaker 4: has been ongoing now since nineteen seventy nine. We just

453
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Speaker 4: finally got a president who said enough enough, We're going

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Speaker 4: to start fighting this war.

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Speaker 1: Back the I guess the tough part is going to

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Speaker 1: be the regime change part of this. How do you

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Speaker 1: see that playing out? And I saw I read a

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Speaker 1: piece today where Donald Trump has I don't know if

459
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Speaker 1: he said a public lear he's saying it to just

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Speaker 1: people that he's working with that he wants to have

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Speaker 1: a hand in who is going to be the next

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Speaker 1: leader in in Iran. How realistic is that that that

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Speaker 1: the president has a say so in that?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the you know, the ci A and

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Speaker 4: and also the Massad and that have been researching the

466
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Speaker 4: Iranian leadership, all all levels of it for for quite

467
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Speaker 4: some time. I mean for years, honestly, but uh but

468
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Speaker 4: in particular, you know, uh in in recent probably you know,

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Speaker 4: weeks and months when when plans for this this activity

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Speaker 4: started started really to fall into place. You know, we've

471
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Speaker 4: been looking at who we think is going to be

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Speaker 4: a viable option and uh and maybe more than one person,

473
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Speaker 4: you know, it may be a committee. Uh So it's

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Speaker 4: really uh. I think they've got probably a pretty good

475
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Speaker 4: handle on it. And right now we're just waiting for

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Speaker 4: all of the military pieces to uh you know, to

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Speaker 4: fall into place.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: This this so called war uh is is going to

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Speaker 4: be over, I think very quickly. I think within another

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Speaker 4: week to two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: You know, the existing regime is going to be non existent.

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Speaker 4: Uh and we're going to be looking at trying to

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Speaker 4: uh to put this country back together uh in in

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Speaker 4: some symbols of order and uh uh and and put

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Speaker 4: it back together uh in a way that is going

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Speaker 4: to be beneficial to us.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of things.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of movement parts going on right now

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Speaker 4: behind the scenes that that the American people don't know about,

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Speaker 4: and they just can't know about because we don't want

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Speaker 4: to compromise things. So uh just you know, I I'm

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Speaker 4: a patient man, and I think that this is uh

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Speaker 4: something that's going to be uh worked out uh in

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Speaker 4: and is already in various stages of completion.

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Speaker 1: So things are looking up. I think, yeah, I hope

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Speaker 1: you're right about that and that I mean, what you

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Speaker 1: just laid out right there sounds to me like that

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Speaker 1: would be a best case scenario, especially with the minimizing

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Speaker 1: any losses to American forces.

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Speaker 4: You know, we we've learned lessons from Iraq and Afghanistan,

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Speaker 4: and this president is has got the leadership ability that

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Speaker 4: we're not going to make the same mistakes that we

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Speaker 4: made and uh, you know, we're going to have to

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Speaker 4: be careful. We're got to handle things properly and make

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Speaker 4: sure that we are mindful of not making some of

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Speaker 4: those same mistakes that we fell into in the past.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think it's going to happen. I think

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Speaker 4: we've got a hell of a leadership team in this

511
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Speaker 4: country right now, and uh and I think I think

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Speaker 4: things are going to turn out pretty.

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Speaker 1: Good for us. Let me let me ask you about

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Speaker 1: something else. Reading about the different weaponry that has been

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Speaker 1: deployed by the Unie States that has been used by Israel,

516
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Speaker 1: the way the United States and Israel, especially the air

517
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Speaker 1: force has coordinated that first attack, and some of the

518
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Speaker 1: bombs that were used, the missiles that get shot by

519
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Speaker 1: an F fifteen from I don't know, two hundred miles out,

520
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: then the missile goes up in this space and comes

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Speaker 1: back down, and all this kind of stuff. I was

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Speaker 1: looking at an interview that Dick Blumenthal did with CNN

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Speaker 1: today and he said he's very worried about this. He's

524
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Speaker 1: very concerned because to his way of thinking, these weapons

525
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Speaker 1: that are being deployed here in Iran on behalf of

526
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Speaker 1: the United States should have been sent to Ukraine, so

527
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Speaker 1: Ukraine could have had these weapons. And I was talking

528
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Speaker 1: about that before I had you on the air, and

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Speaker 1: I said, Dick Bloomenthal, what the hell is wrong with you?

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Speaker 1: If we've got weapons, don't we want the best weapons

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Speaker 1: we have to be in the hands and used on

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Speaker 1: behalf of the United States and the men and women

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Speaker 1: in our military. If we're going to send weapons to Ukraine, look,

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Speaker 1: if they're not the top tier weapons, I don't have

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Speaker 1: a problem with that. If we're sending them weapons, if

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Speaker 1: we're not sending them the very best that we have, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry about your luck. They're still pretty good weapons.

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Speaker 1: Do what you can with it. But when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the best weapons, I want American men and women

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Speaker 1: in uniform to be using those weapons. Ukraine, sorry, Ukraine

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Speaker 1: comes second. What do you say?

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Speaker 4: It amazes me that he says something like that, but

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Speaker 4: then again, you know, at the State of the Union address.

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Speaker 1: When it's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you know, first of all, we have

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Speaker 4: been sending significant munitions and technologies to Ukraine to begin with,

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Speaker 4: so you know, so I don't know where he's coming

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Speaker 4: from with with that. We were scrimping on them in

549
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Speaker 4: some way or another. But uh. But secondly, like I said,

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Speaker 4: it is our our our technology, and that our weaponry

551
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Speaker 4: and our munitions and that that uh that are the

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Speaker 4: top tier and that need to be used by our

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Speaker 4: forces for our benefit. And uh you know, uh, I

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Speaker 4: I just baffles me. Why how someone can make such

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Speaker 4: a the guy's a senator for crying out loud? How

556
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Speaker 4: the eldest keep getting elected? Geez.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not the first time that bloom Andhaal

558
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Speaker 1: has said something that, uh that makes your that makes

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Speaker 1: your jaw drop. Uh. I'm reading today that UH that

560
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Speaker 1: China has said that it's it really has no appetite

561
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Speaker 1: to get involved in this. I guess China is probably

562
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Speaker 1: Irand's most powerful ally, but for the most part China

563
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Speaker 1: has has been has been hands off of this. And

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Speaker 1: they they've given no indication that they want to get

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Speaker 1: involved in this or or helped or ran out in

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Speaker 1: any sort of way. I think that's a pretty major development.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. You know what what this, what what is happening

568
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Speaker 4: right now in Iran goes way beyond Iran, way beyond

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Speaker 4: the Middle East. UH. Trump has taken steps that are

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Speaker 4: literally changing the the strategic uh the geostrategic atmosphere in

571
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Speaker 4: the world and UH and and to our benefit, our

572
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Speaker 4: enemies are being given a a lesson in the capabilities

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Speaker 4: of this country, not just in our technology in that,

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Speaker 4: but in the skill of our warfighters. And I'm telling

575
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Speaker 4: you a big message is being sent around the world

576
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Speaker 4: to any potential adversaries in the future that they might

577
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Speaker 4: want to, you know, take another look at poking the

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Speaker 4: poking the hornets test.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the is Revolutionary Guard Corps came out and

580
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Speaker 1: said that it would if at first it was threatening

581
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Speaker 1: to close and shut down the straight of horror moves

582
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Speaker 1: now it says it's going to back off and we'll

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Speaker 1: only attack the American ships, or we'll only attack attack

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Speaker 1: you know in Israeli or European ship. Everyone else is

585
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Speaker 1: fine to go through. I think when you see that

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Speaker 1: sort of concession being made after what less than forty

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Speaker 1: eight hours, that seems to me, even if they're tough

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Speaker 1: talk is back and off first. Maybe there's a lot

589
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Speaker 1: more progress being made behind the scenes than meets the eye.

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Speaker 4: What we're seeing right now is the last last gasp

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Speaker 4: of a regime in its dying throws. I mean, they

592
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Speaker 4: are you know, I again, I think this is going

593
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Speaker 4: to be over very very soon. I fully expect the

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Speaker 4: IRGC to start dropping their weapons. You know. I think that, uh,

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Speaker 4: the the the need for ground troops is just simply

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Speaker 4: not going to happen. You know, we we I I

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Speaker 4: would guarantee you we probably have you know, an element

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Speaker 4: of ground troops on the ground that have been on

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Speaker 4: the ground for some time now. You know, some special

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Speaker 4: operators in that, but I mean, that's that's typical. Those

601
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Speaker 4: guys are you know, the tip of the spear and

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Speaker 4: uh But as far as having a large scale ground

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Speaker 4: forces go in like like in Iraq or Afghanistan, We're

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Speaker 4: not going to see that. We're not going to need it. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: we're not going to have it because that has a

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Speaker 4: tendency to to go bad rather quickly when uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: the the population begins to turn against you because of

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Speaker 4: uh just the the occupation force. And uh so I

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Speaker 4: I think, again, this is going to be over here,

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Speaker 4: I think pretty quickly, and uh and good things are

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Speaker 4: going to come out of it. Uh, not just for

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Speaker 4: the Middle East, but uh but for our country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I hope you're right about that. Christy

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Speaker 1: Known being dismissed today as the Secretary of Homeland Security.

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Speaker 1: That I guess that seems to me like more of

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Speaker 1: an internal thing. I don't think that really is going

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Speaker 1: to be much of a factor, if at all, on

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Speaker 1: the outcome.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: No, I won't be a factor in this. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, to her credit, she did some of good

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Speaker 4: things and that, but I think she just she lost

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Speaker 4: control of herself in a sense, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: she made some mistakes and you know, costly ones for her,

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Speaker 4: you know, professionally, uh you know, but but I will

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Speaker 4: give her credit. She I mean, look at the border situation.

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Speaker 4: I mean she had a significant impact on that, so

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Speaker 4: you know for that she deserves credits certainly.

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Speaker 1: So all right, d W Wilver, we got to run.

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Speaker 1: When when's your podcast going to start again?

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Speaker 4: Well officially in March twenty first, twenty first people people

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Speaker 1: Proud American Studios. D Wilver, you're the best. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: the time, keep up the great work and hopefully the

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Speaker 1: predictions that you may here tonight we'll be the best

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Speaker 1: case scenario and in a few weeks time we'll be

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Speaker 1: talking about how you are right again, I hope.

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Speaker 4: So you take care of it out all right, there.

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Speaker 2: You go, d W.

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Speaker 1: Wilbert. You can also read his columns at townhall dot com.

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Speaker 1: to be taking care of them. It's all us. It's

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00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: all a ripoff. Medicare, Medicaid. Doctor Oz was talking about that,

657
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: the huge Medicaid scam in California. Jd Vance. Now during

658
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: the State of the Union was talked about by President

659
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: Trump and how he's going to be spearheading the task

660
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: force to uncover all the fraud that's been going on

661
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: in America. But one of the biggest frauds that you

662
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: may not have heard of, and I didn't even really

663
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: know about until I got an email the other day

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Speaker 1: talking about a new book that's out there is something

665
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: that really affects every single one of us. If you

666
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: drive a car, then you're going to want to hear this.

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00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: It's called America's Great Parking Scam. You've been robbed. The

668
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: author is Carrie Lutz who he's an author, podcaster, founder

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Speaker 1: of the Financial Survival Network, and the host of viral

670
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: podcasting and Carrie Lutz, it's great to have you on

671
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 3: Hey, and it's a real pleasure to be with you.

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Speaker 3: I am also America's top recovering a turn.

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Speaker 1: Top recovering attorney. Well, so what once an attorney not

675
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: always an attorney?

676
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 4: Is that not?

677
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: Well, once you're an attorney, you kind of never get

678
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: over it. And that's that's how I uncovered the scam.

679
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 3: I got a ticket in a place that had never

680
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 3: charged for parking before, and I looked around and I

681
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 3: didn't even see a sign. And I wrote them a

682
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 3: nasty letter saying, hey, you start charging for parking. You

683
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: didn't even give us notice. And then they tossed the ticket.

684
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: They said, due to a delay in processing. We're talking,

685
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: we're tossing the ticket. That was three days later. I said,

686
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 3: that's not right. I went back again, this place I

687
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: go to regularly, and I saw these signs. They had

688
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 3: sand dunes on them, they had beach umbrellas and waves

689
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 3: and beach balls. And I said, that's not a legal sign.

690
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 3: And I started researching, and I actually found out that

691
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: there's a federal law that deals with every single sign,

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Speaker 3: every light, traffic light, every curve marking, every stripe that

693
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 3: goes down your street. It's called the NUTCD. We've been

694
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Speaker 3: living under it for probably forty or fifty years. We

695
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 3: didn't even know we were living under it. But it

696
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: specifically spells out what signs have to look like so

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00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: that you don't have some crazies in Seattle saying, you know,

698
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: we don't like that stop signs are red. We think

699
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 3: they should be green, and we think that red lights

700
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: are ugly. We're gonna let We're gonna go on red

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Speaker 3: and we're going to stop on green.

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00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't. And it's I mean, you look at

703
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: that way of thinking and that it makes perfect sense

704
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: that when it comes to parking, the sign should be

705
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: uniform from one place to another, so everyone has a

706
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 1: clear understanding of what's going on right.

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00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 3: Exactly and the signs so you should be able to

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Speaker 3: drive down the street just see the sign without even

709
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 3: reading it and know exactly what it means. That's what

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Speaker 3: uniform means. The federal government forced every state to adopt

711
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Speaker 3: adopt the MUTCD and it's called the Manual on Uniform

712
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Speaker 3: Traffic Control Devices. They forced them to do it. In

713
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 3: a state, if they don't adopt it can lose their

714
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: highway funding. And so it's the law of the land

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Speaker 3: in all fifty seven states.

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00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 4: And you know, but the states, the cities.

717
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 3: Are ignoring it all over the place. That was a

718
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: joke for I got into the White House. I got it.

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Speaker 3: So the point is that it's uniformity, so that somebody

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Speaker 3: in Guam, or they're in Key West, whatever they're doing there,

721
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 3: and they see the sign, they know what it means immediately,

722
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Speaker 3: and that's why the system functions. It's the operating system

723
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: of your highways. But the cities, especially in Florida, but

724
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: all over the country are getting rid of these signs

725
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 3: and they're having pay by app and that's not a

726
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 3: legitimate what you would call a traffic control device or TCD,

727
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: and under the laws, they're not enforceable, and that means

728
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 3: that if you raise it as an objection, you will

729
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 3: get your ticket thrown that. But now you don't even

730
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 3: go to court. You go to a digital portal and

731
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: you want they all they want to do is make

732
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: you pay for the ticket, pay and go away. That's

733
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 3: how the government works. Just pay and go away. But

734
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 3: eventually you will find a judicial portal, you voice your objections,

735
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 3: they'll toss the ticket. But that's to me, that wasn't

736
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: good enough. Like I can help everybody fight their tickets.

737
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: A lot of you will succeed at it, and that's

738
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Speaker 3: why I wrote the book and you can find it

739
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 3: at parkscam dot com. But I created a greater movement

740
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 3: called the NAADP, the National Association of American Defrauded Parkers,

741
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: and our vision is to fight these in court. I

742
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: started an action in US District Court, Southern District of Florida.

743
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 3: I'm suing Palm Beach, the town of Palm Beach. The

744
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 3: President's chosen the place to live because they're worse than

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Speaker 3: anybody else.

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Speaker 1: What they have.

747
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Speaker 3: Done is created an app centric system, meaning you can't

748
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 3: pay for parking and lets you download a private company

749
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Speaker 3: right right.

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Speaker 1: And I hate that. I hate that, you know, and

751
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: you know carry let's living here in Cincinnati. I think

752
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: we're probably maybe a little luckier than most. There's a

753
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: lot of places around around outside of downtown Cincinnati where

754
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: you can park for free and there's certain municipalities and

755
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: certain areas of town where, of course there's parking meters

756
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: and pay lots and all that sort of thing. And

757
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: I think the more I was reading about your book

758
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: and what you've written about and the scams that you

759
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 1: get hooked into when it comes to parking, I think

760
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: that's why, maybe subconsciously, I think I avoid going downtown

761
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: if I don't have to. I don't want to have

762
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: to deal out Because I always asked a question, Am

763
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: I okay parking here? Do I have to park here?

764
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Speaker 1: I've got to walk down, I've got to scan this

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Speaker 1: QR code. I gotta give them my my debit card

766
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Speaker 1: or my credit card in order to pay. You can't

767
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: pay cash anymore. It's it just seems patently unfair that

768
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: you have to do things. We live in the digital age.

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Speaker 1: Now everything is supposed to be more convenient and a

770
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: lot easier. But the digital age and the fact that

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00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: so many municipalities have turned over parking to private concerns

772
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: and private companies. Yeah, now you've got pr experts, and

773
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: you've got psychological experts and people who are looking at

774
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: the bottom line, like you say, they want you to

775
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: park and leave because that is the most efficient way

776
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: for them to turn those parking meters over and keep

777
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: breaking the money. Than that.

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00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 3: Tell me about it, Because well, we have these people

779
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 3: called miners. Those are people who are under eighteen years

780
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 3: old who've gotten licenses, and a minor under American law

781
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: doesn't have the capacity to enter into content.

782
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 4: But when he or she.

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00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 3: Downloads an app and it says click here to accept,

784
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: that's the terms. That's a legal contract. So you're forcing

785
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 3: miners to enter into contract without the consent of their parents.

786
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 3: But what those contracts say is going to blow you away.

787
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Speaker 3: Number One, they don't even have to store your data

788
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: in the United States. Park Mobile can store it in

789
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: a foreign country. It's right there in their privacy policy.

790
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 3: Number two, you wave your right to a trial, you

791
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 3: can sent to arbitration. Miners don't know what arbitration is,

792
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: and they consent, they waive their privacy rights. They consent

793
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 3: to have their data shared in third parties. And it's

794
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 3: not just any data, it's their geolocation, the spot that

795
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: they occupy on the planets at a given time when

796
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 3: they pay for the parking. That's how it knows what

797
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: zone is nearby, because it's to your location and a

798
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 3: whole host of other issues. Miners are being coerced and

799
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: talking about Palm Beach, you can't pay for the parking

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00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 3: anyway except with an app. Miners have to download it

801
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: in order to park. And the thing about there is

802
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 3: because there's no way to pay with cash or credit card,

803
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 3: you have to pay to pay to park.

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00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 4: It's insane and it's.

805
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: Going to be struck down. There's no question whether I

806
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: win or lose. The awareness is going to shed the

807
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: light on the parking industrial complex and show how extractive

808
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 3: it is and how illegal, in my opinion in many

809
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 3: ways it is, and how it really undermines democracy. If

810
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 3: the city needs money, let them raise taxes, go through

811
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 3: that process. Don't do these stealth taxes, because in Florida

812
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 3: and in many states, there's a law that says, if

813
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 3: you're going to provide a service.

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00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: You can't.

815
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: Charge more than the service costs. Then it's no longer

816
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 3: a fee. It's considered a tax. If there's a little

817
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 3: bit of extra revenue goes in the general fund, that's okay.

818
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: But if the intent of the charge is to make

819
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 3: enough money so that it will feed the general fund,

820
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 3: that's considered a tax many municipalities in Florida, and this

821
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 3: is around the country. This isn't just a Florida problem,

822
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: as you said, it's national. So many, many towns, counties

823
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 3: actually have a referendum process to raise taxes, so instead

824
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 3: they go jack up the price of.

825
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: Parking.

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Speaker 3: And you know, many municipalities make more money on the

827
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 3: tickets than they make on the parking.

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00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let me ask you about that. When it

829
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Speaker 1: comes to actually generating a ticket or demanding a fee

830
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: because of a parking violation, is that something that's under

831
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: the purview of local law enforcement or is that another

832
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: function that's been farmed out to these private companies.

833
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: Well, there's a city here. I wasn't going to name them,

834
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Speaker 3: but I'll name them Riva or Beach. They don't even

835
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 3: have their own employees writing the tickets.

836
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Speaker 1: They contracted it out.

837
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Speaker 3: And in general, look, in general, that's illegal because it's

838
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 3: an illegal delegation of the.

839
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: Town's police power. And in just about every.

840
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 3: State you can say, oh yeah, you can do data processing,

841
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 3: you can paint stuff, clean stuff up for contract, but

842
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 3: you can't take over core police power functions. That's totally no,

843
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 3: you can't do it. But they've done it here, and

844
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 3: that's one of the cities that I'm suing, in addition

845
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 3: to Palm Beach, book are a Ton, Fort Lauderdale. They're

846
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 3: gonna squeal like stuck pigs because they.

847
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: Know they're vulnerable here.

848
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 3: You know, whether the case gets thrown out or not,

849
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: I can't predict, but I know I have a strong case.

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00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. On a national level, can you put a dollar

851
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: figure on how much money is? Billions? Billions?

852
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

853
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 3: Well, New York City alone last year wrote close to

854
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 3: eleven million parking at average one hundred plus dollars a ticket.

855
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 3: Only about three to four percent of the people challenge them.

856
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 3: Of the people that challenge them, thirty to forty five

857
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 3: percent are dismissed because of the signs and so multiply

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00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 3: that every city, and the bigger the city, the older

859
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 3: the city, the worse it is. And you were saying

860
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 3: a lot of places don't charge for parking around you

861
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati.

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00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: Here's the trend.

863
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 3: They're all going to do it because the parking app

864
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 3: companies make it irresistible. Oh, you can get five million

865
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Speaker 3: dollars a year. To think what you could do with that,

866
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 3: and we just our fees only fifty cents per parking session.

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Speaker 1: Well they had, they've had all kinds of problems with

868
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: the legalities of the red light cameras and all the

869
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: rest of that, So why not turn to parking concept Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you you sound like an actuarial reading all those numbers.

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Speaker 3: Well it's dominated. I know, it's a little crazy, Like

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Speaker 3: I didn't set out to become an expert in parking,

873
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Speaker 3: believe me. It was the furthest thing from my mind.

874
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Speaker 3: But where I sued and the best thing is where

875
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 3: I sued in West Palm Beach, Florida, at the Federal courthouse.

876
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 3: It's what I call a due process free zone. The

877
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Speaker 3: city of West Palm Beach just decided to get rid

878
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Speaker 3: of all the parking signs for most of them in

879
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Speaker 3: the city and just put stickers on the parking meters.

880
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Speaker 3: That is completely against the NUTCD. Look, we have a

881
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 3: parking self defense kit. So you join the NAADP, you

882
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 3: get a parking self defense kit. It goes through step

883
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 3: by step and comes up with an effective way to

884
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 3: challenge the ticket. But one little hint. If the sign

885
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 3: is not seven feet high the parking sign, now, look

886
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 3: if it's tub three inches off because the signs set

887
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 3: or whatever. The court's not going to care about that.

888
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 3: But if it's at four and a half feet, that

889
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 3: is definitely going to get tosst go. And there's all

890
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Speaker 3: these violations. That's why you have to join the NAADP

891
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Speaker 3: and get the book. I like I say in the

892
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 3: summary of the book, before you pay your next parking ticket,

893
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 3: read this book. It will change your view. And it's something,

894
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 3: you know, so basic that we've just been programmed to say. Well,

895
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Speaker 3: that's what the sign says. I'll never forget. One time,

896
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 3: I'm in New York, I'm looking at a sign. I'm

897
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 3: a lawyer. I can't figure out whether I can park

898
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 3: there or not. And a cop walks by and I

899
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Speaker 3: say to him, Hey man, do you think I can

900
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 3: park here? And he looks up, he kind of shrugs

901
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 3: his shoulders. Well, what does the sign say?

902
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Speaker 1: He doesn't either.

903
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the one who's got to write the ticket.

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Speaker 1: The National Association a National Association of American Defrauded Parkers.

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Speaker 1: The book is America's Great parking scam. You've been robbed.

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00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: Carry Lot's great to have you on tonight. Best of

907
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Speaker 1: luck with the loss I wanted, I want I'm going

908
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Speaker 1: to follow this. I'm gonna I'm gonna see where this goes,

909
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: because I want to go back to the days where

910
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Speaker 1: I can take a handful of quarters, shub me in

911
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 1: the machine, have twenty five minutes, go do whatever business

912
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 1: I need to do, and get the hell out of there,

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00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: and still have you know, six or seven minutes left

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Speaker 1: on the meter. And and then I mean that used

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Speaker 1: to be the can you drive around? Hey, look here's

916
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Speaker 1: a meter of this still last fifteen minutes on. I'm

917
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: good to go. Do you jump in there? Bibles? Those

918
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: were fun times? But nope, nope, can't, can't do that.

919
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: There's a whole generation of kids who were driving these days.

920
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: They have no idea how much fun that used to be.

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Speaker 1: Carry LUTs, we got to run. Best of luck with

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Speaker 1: the books. Thanks all the time. Tonight, really great talking

923
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Speaker 1: to you, and I hope we get a chance to

924
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Speaker 1: do it. I'm down the road, So there you go.

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Speaker 1: Carry Lotts, author of America's Great Parking Scam. You've been robbed.

926
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have that guy on again. Ten twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: on the Thursday night edition of The Midweek Crisis on

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW all right, back on The Big One

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW ten forty one. We roll till midnight

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Speaker 1: tonight on the Thursday night edition of The Midweek Crisis.

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Speaker 1: You know, when we getting ready for the show, I

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Speaker 1: got a bunch of different websites I look at. I

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Speaker 1: look at all kinds of stuff during the course of

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Speaker 1: the day. And one of the things I came across

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Speaker 1: today rust did I say the phone lines were open?

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Speaker 1: I think I did. Okay, well, I'm gonna say it

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Speaker 1: again now five one, three, seven, four, nine hundred the

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Speaker 1: Big One. And one of the things I came across

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Speaker 1: today was a clip, actually a couple of clips of

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Speaker 1: our old friend Katie Kirk, the longtime journalist. And it

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Speaker 1: turns out the New York Times recently wrote a piece

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Speaker 1: about Katie Kirk, and they write that Katie Kirk spoke

943
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Speaker 1: out against both sidism, which I guess is the term

944
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Speaker 1: that they coined there at the at the New York

945
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Speaker 1: Times or not the Times, but I'm sorry the New

946
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Speaker 1: York Post. And she said she spoke out against both

947
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Speaker 1: sidism in news coverage and insisted people don't want just

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Speaker 1: the facts in the current media environment. And she was

949
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Speaker 1: on a podcast called the grill Room, Kirk to cried

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Speaker 1: the current backlash against the Chloe Expert class, saying she

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Speaker 1: loves talking to people with a deep well of knowledge

952
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Speaker 1: about specific issues. So what I try to do and

953
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Speaker 1: what we try to do is help people stay abreast

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Speaker 1: of everything that's happening, which is increasingly difficult given the

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Speaker 1: velocity of things that are thrown at us, primarily by

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Speaker 1: this administration. So you see, we need people like Katie

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Speaker 1: Kirk because well, she's been around a long time and

958
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Speaker 1: she I mean, you got to get up really early

959
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Speaker 1: in the morning to pull the wool over her eyes

960
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Speaker 1: because people like you and me, we just don't have

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Speaker 1: enough on the ball to really know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: And so during the course of that interview, Katie Kirk

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Speaker 1: talked about, should she have the opportunity to interview Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: that she would yearly bear down with the tough questions.

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Speaker 1: And this is what it sounded like when she talked

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Speaker 1: about challenging Trump as a journalist. Let the russ let's

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Speaker 1: your cut number four please.

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Speaker 7: That if I had been the producer of the Meet

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Speaker 7: the Press interview, what I would have done is I

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Speaker 7: would have the best of my ability and I think

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Speaker 7: Kristen tried to to come back at him, but I

972
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Speaker 7: would have had so many facts and figures ready, and

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Speaker 7: I would have been really focused on predicting what he

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Speaker 7: was going to say, so I knew like I would

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Speaker 7: have had, I don't know, I would have some system.

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Speaker 7: You are here to get the truth. She's a real

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Speaker 7: per I think unfortunately, through all his bluster and bravado

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Speaker 7: and bullying, he bully gets he gets his way, and

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Speaker 7: I think he has to be held accountable.

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Speaker 1: I think I think we get the idea there, Russ

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Speaker 1: Katie Couric. I mean, Trump is a he see boy,

982
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Speaker 1: so much bluster. These journalists that talk to him now,

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Speaker 1: they just don't have the experience that she has to

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Speaker 1: really bear down and really get to and really hold

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Speaker 1: Trump's feet to the fire. Well, recently Katie Kirk had

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Speaker 1: a chance to talk with a guy who wants to

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Speaker 1: be president, and that would be Gavin Newsom of California.

988
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Speaker 1: And so we just heard Katie Kirk there talking about

989
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Speaker 1: the president of the United States and how you know,

990
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Speaker 1: we need someone of her caliber to really get to

991
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Speaker 1: the heart of the matter, really get to the truth,

992
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Speaker 1: really cut through all the just all the noise, and nonsense.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for that, Russ, I appreciate that. And so here's

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Speaker 1: a little clip of Katie Kirk really asking the tough

995
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Speaker 1: question of a guy who wants to be president, Gavin Newsom,

996
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Speaker 1: and with that ross, could we please please hear cut

997
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Speaker 1: number five? Do you have a Zoolander problem?

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Speaker 2: No?

999
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Speaker 1: Yes?

1000
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Speaker 7: Are you just ridiculously good looking?

1001
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Speaker 8: No?

1002
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Speaker 1: Seriously, what do you do about that?

1003
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Speaker 9: You don't do anything about it, because if you're going

1004
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 9: to do something about it, you know what I am

1005
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Speaker 9: who I am, and it's fine. You don't have to

1006
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Speaker 9: like me, or maybe you like a slick person. I

1007
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Speaker 9: don't know whatever, It's okay.

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Speaker 7: But the reason why because you talked about being authentic. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I think it sometimes works against you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just who I am. It's just who So

1011
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: you see there, that's a great example of Katie Kirk,

1012
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: who on one hand talked about Trump and how we

1013
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: really need people like her to bear down on this

1014
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Speaker 1: guy and get to the truth, because after all, that's

1015
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Speaker 1: what people really need. And so when she had a

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Speaker 1: chance to ask some serious questions of Gavin, a guy

1017
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Speaker 1: who wants to be president of the United States, all

1018
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Speaker 1: she could come up with is do you have a

1019
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: Zoolander problem because, according to Vanity Fair, you're incredibly good look. Well,

1020
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Speaker 1: maybe Katy Kirk failed to notice a few things. That's

1021
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Speaker 1: just a few things that she might have been able

1022
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Speaker 1: to ask Gavin Newsom about when it comes to the

1023
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Speaker 1: work he's done in California. I mean, for instance, Katy

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Speaker 1: Kirk could have said, hey, Gavin, how about California's projected

1025
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Speaker 1: eighteen billion dollar budget deficit? Or what about the thirty

1026
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Speaker 1: one to thirty three billion dollars in unemployment fraud that

1027
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Speaker 1: happened during the WUHAN. That was a lot of federal

1028
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Speaker 1: money right there. Any idea what happened to that? What

1029
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: about the thirty one to thirty three billion dollars worth

1030
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Speaker 1: of unemployment fraud that happened during that period of time?

1031
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Speaker 1: Did you know California has the highest cost of living

1032
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Speaker 1: middle class families paying estimated twenty six thousand, four hundred

1033
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Speaker 1: and seventy eight dollars more than the national average. Any

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Speaker 1: questions about that for old Gavin Newsom, you know, just

1035
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Speaker 1: so incredibly good looking. Maybe miss Kirk I might have

1036
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Speaker 1: been curious about the thirty seven billion dollars that since

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen was supposed to be spent on ending California's homeless.

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Speaker 1: Christ I'm sure Katie kirk cares about the homeless. What

1039
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: happened to that money? And why is it the California

1040
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Speaker 1: remains home nearly one third of the nation's almost population. Hey, Gavin,

1041
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: what about the high speed rail? I was hoping to

1042
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: take a little trip on the high speed rail when

1043
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: I came out to California. What about that money pit?

1044
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Speaker 1: Decades behind schedules, one hundred and thirty five billion dollars

1045
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: down the drain so far. So you see, this is

1046
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Speaker 1: how the American people get lied to on an ongoing basis.

1047
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: Do you get these old war horses out there? Katie

1048
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: Kuric a long career, been around for a long time.

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Speaker 1: I think she's been on NBC. I think she's been

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Speaker 1: on some other I don't know what other networks she's

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Speaker 1: been on. Highly respected, and she goes in and does

1052
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Speaker 1: these interviews talking about how you and me and Ken

1053
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Speaker 1: from Mason need people like her because of her ability

1054
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Speaker 1: to really bear down and get to the nub of

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Speaker 1: the matter. Ken from Mason, she really said to Gavin Newsom,

1056
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Speaker 1: tough question, do you have a Zoolander problem because you're

1057
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Speaker 1: so incredibly good looking.

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Speaker 10: I mean, man, Ady Kurrik is a twit, you know,

1059
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Speaker 10: I mean all this stuff.

1060
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Speaker 1: I just you know, she didn't ask about public education.

1061
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Speaker 1: She didn't. You know, they've got two thirds of the

1062
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Speaker 1: mass students in California cannot meet the Mass standards. More

1063
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Speaker 1: than half can't meet the English standards. God knows how

1064
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Speaker 1: many of them can read a grade level. She didn't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, questions like that. I guess lesser

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Speaker 1: journalists will have to ask questions like that because she

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Speaker 1: went after the real tough questions there about this difficulty

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Speaker 1: he has being incredibly good looking.

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Speaker 10: Well, first of all, I wouldn't call Gavin Newsome Hollywood

1070
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Speaker 10: good looking at all. I mean he looks like with

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Speaker 10: his hair slicked back, he you know, he just looks

1072
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Speaker 10: like a mob guy. I mean, he's a liar. He's

1073
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Speaker 10: been caught lying about so many things, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 10: back during COVID he was eating French restaurants when people

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Speaker 10: weren't supposed to be going out. I mean, the guy's

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Speaker 10: a complete fraud. But Katie Kirk is a twitch. She's

1077
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Speaker 10: an idiot. I mean, she's always been on TV because

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Speaker 10: she just smiled about everything, and she's an absolute liberal.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 10: The media, the media is one of the biggest problems

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Speaker 10: we have in this country. It's just lie after lie

1082
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Speaker 10: after lie after lie after lie. I mean, I hope

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Speaker 10: the listeners understand they are not getting the truth from

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Speaker 10: the Democratic Party and this is all intentional. They're trying

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Speaker 10: to destroy Trump. Everything he's done. They've been tested since

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Speaker 10: twenty fifteen. Everything.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 10: They're trying to say the war is a disaster, and

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Speaker 10: they're trying everything he does is a disaster. People need

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Speaker 10: to catch on to that. They never change and they

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Speaker 10: never have any solutions. They never talk about solution. The

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Speaker 10: only thing they knowed was tax people, tax, tax, tax, tax,

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Speaker 10: That's all they know. I mean, in Virginia, they're coming

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Speaker 10: up with you know, you brought it out last week

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Speaker 10: about one hundred and fifty new different ways to tax

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Speaker 10: people in Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and also I talked about it last night,

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Speaker 1: you know, and the governor of Virginia was on the

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Speaker 1: State of the Union or she delivered the Democratic response

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Speaker 1: to the State of the Union, and she talked about

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Speaker 1: what did she talk about, how she was leading the

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Speaker 1: way in affordability while lawmakers in Virginia have found a

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Speaker 1: way to tackle the affordability issue. They've they've raised their

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Speaker 1: pay by three hundred percent, So affordability for them really

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Speaker 1: not so much of an issue anymore. And while lah,

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Speaker 1: there you go. The lawmakers in Virginia have addressed affordability

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Speaker 1: by giving themselves a three hundred percent pay raise.

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Speaker 10: Accusing your enemy, Saula Lenski said, of the exact thing

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Speaker 10: thing you're doing, She's perfect, Sololensky. People need to read

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Speaker 10: rules for radicals, they really do. I mean the Democratic part.

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Speaker 10: Hillary Clinton loves Sololensky. Barack Obama's that's his hero. Read

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Speaker 10: the book and you'll see exactly the Democratic plan. Nothing

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Speaker 10: ever changes, you know, And I mean this on slought

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Speaker 10: that they've got that the Democrats are going to win

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Speaker 10: the mid terms. You know, you've got to look into

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Speaker 10: it and not believe everything you hear. You know, I

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Speaker 10: mean what happened in Texas, you know, two days ago

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Speaker 10: with the head idiot down there, she got her butt,

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Speaker 10: you know, handed to her rocket. Yeah, she got her

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Speaker 10: butt handed to her by another complete communist.

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Speaker 1: Oh, this guy, this guy is a complete piece of work.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard some of the stuff that this guy

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Speaker 1: has said.

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Speaker 10: He is out of his mind.

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Speaker 1: Oh tall Rico, Yeah, is it James Tallerico? I think

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Speaker 1: is his first name?

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Speaker 10: Right? This get destroyed? No, remember, he will get destroyed.

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Speaker 1: I certainly hope so.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 10: He's going to lose by thirty percent and it's going

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Speaker 10: to be a it's going to be an absolute butt kicking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy has This guy has no business being around,

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Speaker 1: being around Washington, d C. Or the United States, the

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Speaker 1: United States Senate.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, the Democratic Party there. They don't care about America.

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Speaker 10: People need to understand that around the world there are

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Speaker 10: so many hundreds of thousands and millions of people. They're

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Speaker 10: so thrilled what Donald Trump has done. And Iran get

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Speaker 10: rid of the Oh mean, I mean people are thrilled.

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Speaker 10: And the people that are most fisted about it are

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Speaker 10: Democrats in America.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I saw a I saw a post on my social

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Speaker 1: media a day the following day of the initial attacks,

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Speaker 1: and it showed on one hand, on one side of

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Speaker 1: the post, it showed a picture of Iranian women celebrating

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Speaker 1: their freedom. And these were women I guess in Tehran

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Speaker 1: who had come out. They've they've taken the burgers off

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Speaker 1: and they're celebrating the end of Coomane and his brutal regime.

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Speaker 1: And then on the other side of the picture was

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Speaker 1: a picture of America and liberal women and it's and

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Speaker 1: the caption was liberal women demonstrating against it. So on

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Speaker 1: one hand, you've got Iraqi women, I mean Iranian women

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Speaker 1: who are celebrating their freedom. But women here in the

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Speaker 1: United States, the liberal intelligent women are are demonstrating against

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Speaker 1: their freedom. And that that to me, that pretty much

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Speaker 1: summed up the whole thing.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and people, these people Iran, it is a deaf culture,

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Speaker 10: and they are fighting to the death. There wasin eighteen

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Speaker 10: days of being out of weapons completely. I mean, we've

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Speaker 10: blown up ninety percent of their ships. Now we're over

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Speaker 10: thirty three ships. We've blown up there at the bottom

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Speaker 10: of the sea. Now, yeah, you know, we blew up

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Speaker 10: their one destroyer World War two style with torpedoes. I mean,

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Speaker 10: these people just keep fighting. This is death to America.

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Speaker 10: I mean, and they're going to the death. They're not

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Speaker 10: afraid of death. I mean they get seventy two virgins.

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Speaker 10: You know, I still have never figured out why you

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Speaker 10: would need seventy two versions, but I guess there must

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Speaker 10: be something to it. But I mean that's what these

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Speaker 10: people are doing. I mean, they just keep throwing whatever

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Speaker 10: they have. And there are morons the end.

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Speaker 1: There are ten countries, and the leadership in Iran was

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Speaker 1: avoiding death since nineteen seventy nine. They've been doing it.

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Speaker 1: They've sent plenty of others out to die, but for themselves,

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Speaker 1: they've been avoiding that meeting, meeting whoever their maker is,

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Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy nine. And then Ken and Mason we

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Speaker 1: got to run. But before I let you go, what

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Speaker 1: about Dick Blumenthal saying today that he's angry that the

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Speaker 1: weapons being deployed against Iran were not sent to Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: that somehow it's not fair that Ukraine is not able

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Speaker 1: to have in their hands the same with the weapons

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Speaker 1: that the American soldiers have in their hands.

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Speaker 10: Well, first of all, he's a moron too. I mean,

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Speaker 10: he has been a problem for twenty five years. I mean,

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Speaker 10: he's not pro America, never has been that whole state.

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Speaker 10: Pritzker and Illinois and him, they're both not They're not Americans.

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Speaker 10: People need to understand that these people are not Americans.

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Speaker 10: They're Marxists, you know. And it just gives him something

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Speaker 10: to complain. The Democrats a great way of looking at

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Speaker 10: you know you. Ever, when you do head's eye win tails,

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Speaker 10: you lose. With the Democrats. They approach Trump. It's the

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Speaker 10: same theory every day. No matter what Trump does, they

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01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 10: find a reason to say it's wrong. Sure, and they

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Speaker 10: complain about everything. I mean, AOC yesterday was saying how

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Speaker 10: it was the war was completely you know, uncalled for

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Speaker 10: for god In, these idiots think that the president cannot

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Speaker 10: run a war on his own. He can't. It's been

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Speaker 10: spilled out. Mark Levin went about expressive talking about how

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Speaker 10: Congress does not have the power to declare war.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, Ken, we're gonna we're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: leave it there. We got to get to the news

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Speaker 1: coming up the top of the hour. But as always,

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Speaker 1: man appreciate you picking up the phone. All Right, there

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Speaker 1: you go, Ken from Mason. Well, we'll see you later,

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Speaker 1: and news is straight ahead on the Home of the

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Speaker 1: Red seven hundred w LW right back on the Big

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Speaker 1: one seven w W eleven eleven. It' see Thursday Night

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Speaker 1: edition of the Midwee Crisis. Signed Dan Carroll Russ Jackson

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Speaker 1: running the big board in the seven hundred WLW Command

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Speaker 1: Center five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand and one,

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Speaker 1: eight hundred, the Big one if you want to get

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Speaker 1: on board. Donald Trump is at the White House today.

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Speaker 1: He had the soccer team from Miami there. I think

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Speaker 1: Russ wasn't at Miami that won the MLS championship last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so so Miami won that. So they were hanging out

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Speaker 1: with the President at the White House today. And while

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Speaker 1: he was at that event for the soccer champs, he

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Speaker 1: gave a little update on Operation Epic Fury and Russ

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Speaker 1: if we could hear Cutt number one, please hello Russ,

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Speaker 1: Russ commnire Cutt number one. I don't know. I'm not

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Speaker 1: I'm not hearing it. Russ Us he playing it, but

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Speaker 1: we're not hearing it. We start over and try again.

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Speaker 8: Trump on and before we begin, I think we will

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Speaker 8: say a few words about what's going on with respect

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Speaker 8: to our operation in the country of Iran. The United

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Speaker 8: States military, together with the wonderful Israeli partners, continues to

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Speaker 8: totally demolish the enemy, far ahead of schedule and at

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Speaker 8: levels that people have never seen before. Actually, we're destroying

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Speaker 8: more of Iran's missiles and drone capability every single hour,

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Speaker 8: knocking them out like nobody thought.

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Speaker 1: It was possible.

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Speaker 8: As soon as they set off missile, within four minutes

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Speaker 8: the launcher gets hit. They don't know what's happening. But

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Speaker 8: we have the greatest military anywhere in the world. Their

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Speaker 8: navy is gone four ships in three days. That's a

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Speaker 8: lot of ships. They're anti aircraft weapons are gone, so

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Speaker 8: they have no air force, they have no air defense.

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Speaker 8: All of their airplanes are gone, their communications are gone,

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Speaker 8: missiles are gone, launches are gone about sixty and sixty

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Speaker 8: four respectively. Other than that, they're doing quite well. They said,

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Speaker 8: what's left. But they're tough and they want to fight,

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Speaker 8: and they're calling. They're saying, how do we make a deal?

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Speaker 8: I said, you're being a little bit late, and we

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Speaker 8: want to fight now more than they do. We've had

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Speaker 8: forty seven years, depending on the way you counted, but

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Speaker 8: forty seven years of horror with this group. And you

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Speaker 8: know when you see somebody walking down the street without

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Speaker 8: their legs, without the arms, whose faces so badly affected

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Speaker 8: and hurt, it mostly came from celemony and Iran and

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Speaker 8: we are the presidents lived with it. I didn't live

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Speaker 8: with it, and so our people are doing a great job. Again,

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Speaker 8: the greatest military anyone's seen.

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Speaker 1: So there's Trump given a little thumbnail sketch of the

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Speaker 1: of the operation Epic Fury thus Far, and I think

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Speaker 1: it was a pretty good thumbnail sketch. And reading about

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Speaker 1: some of the weaponry that's being used has just been amazing.

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Speaker 1: Israel's blue Sparrow missile, this is the one that flies

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Speaker 1: through space, and it's just amazing the way this works.

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Speaker 1: PG Media wrote it up. Israel delivered one of the

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Speaker 1: most dramatic and accurate military strikes in modern Middle East

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Speaker 1: history when a precision blist missile killed Iran supreme leader

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Speaker 1: the Ayatola Ali Khamaeni. Israel forces used a blue Sparrow

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Speaker 1: air launch ballistic missile fired from an F fifteen fighter jet.

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Speaker 1: The Sparrow traveled hundreds of miles, climbed high above the atmosphere,

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Speaker 1: and then plunged nearly straight down onto Kameni's compound in Tehran.

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Speaker 1: The steep re entry path produced enormous impact energy, leaving

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Speaker 1: Iran's air defense system a little time to react. The

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Speaker 1: explosion destroyed the compound and killed senior Iranian leadership that

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Speaker 1: was gathered in the building to pre identified as components

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Speaker 1: of an Israeli Blue Sparrow medium range air launch ballistic

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Speaker 1: missile have reportedly been found in a rock following a

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Speaker 1: strike trajectory believed to have originated from Israel toward Iran

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Speaker 1: earlier that day. Israel F fifteen jets and other aircraft

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Speaker 1: deployed about seven thirty am Iran time, with the aircraft

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Speaker 1: unleashing thirty missiles, including Blue Sparrows, to the heart of

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Speaker 1: the iatola's compound about two hours earlier. The missile's ability

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Speaker 1: to exit and re enter the Erce atmosphere make it

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Speaker 1: nearly impossible to intercept, allowing the bombs to clear Iran's

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Speaker 1: defense systems. The weapon that carried out the strike originated

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Speaker 1: as part of Israel's missile testing program for its aero

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Speaker 1: ballistic missile defense system. Israel developed the Blue Sparrow as

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Speaker 1: a target missile designed to simulate long range threats such

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Speaker 1: as Iran's Shabab three. Ballistic missile defense planners from Israel

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Speaker 1: adapted the platform for operational use. When launched from an

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Speaker 1: aircraft such as an Israeli Air Force F fifteen, the

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Speaker 1: missile climbs on a ballistic arc that carries it beyond

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Speaker 1: the dense layers of the atmosphere before re entering at

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Speaker 1: extreme speed. Final descent occurs at a very steep angle,

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Speaker 1: compressing reaction time for radar trafficking and interception systems. So

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Speaker 1: this is pretty cool. And they called this operation Lion's

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Speaker 1: Roar and coordinated that with Epic Fury, and I'm just

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Speaker 1: reading about that is I mean, I knew we had

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Speaker 1: missiles that were launched from F fifteen's, but this story

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Speaker 1: had graphics to go along with it, to show how

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Speaker 1: they get launched from the airplane up and literally up

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Speaker 1: into space and then comes back down almost I'll just

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Speaker 1: straight down and destroys the bunker where these guys were hiding.

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Speaker 1: Trump wasn't done. He called for the Iranian Guard to

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Speaker 1: lay down their arms, and it sounded like this, russ

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Speaker 1: can we hear cut number two, please once.

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Speaker 8: Again calling on all members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard,

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Speaker 8: the military, and the police to lay down their arms.

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Speaker 8: They're only going to be killed, and now is the

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Speaker 8: time to stand up for the Iranian people and help

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Speaker 8: take back your country. You're going to have a chance

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Speaker 8: after all these years to take back your country. Except immunity,

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Speaker 8: we'll give you immunity, and we'll be giving you really

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Speaker 8: the right side of history, because that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: So you'll be.

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Speaker 8: Perfectly safe with total immunity, or you'll face absolutely guaranteed death.

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Speaker 8: And I don't want to see that. They don't want

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Speaker 8: to see it either. We also hearge Iranian diplomats around

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Speaker 8: the world to request the asylum and to help us

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Speaker 8: shape new and better Iran with great potential. It's the

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Speaker 8: country with great potential as much better future for Iran.

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Speaker 8: It's now beginning. It's going to be I think, a

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Speaker 8: great future, and the United States will ensure that whoever

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Speaker 8: leads the country next Iran will not threaten America or

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Speaker 8: its neighbors, Israel, anybody.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you put out a message that's

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Speaker 1: any more plaine spoken than that. So we will see

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Speaker 1: what happens. As my guest E. W. Wilber suggested earlier

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Speaker 1: tonight that he thinks this is he's looking at this

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Speaker 1: whole operation lasting in terms of weeks rather than months

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Speaker 1: and years. So we can only hope that that is true.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Michigan and say hey to Greg. Greg

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Speaker 1: you're on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for taking my call, mister positive everybody positive dreams. Yes, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I got to ask you, and you've got to be

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Speaker 2: able to see this clue a clearer or gratcading dark. Clearly,

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Speaker 2: my friend Trump talks out of both sides sides of

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Speaker 2: his mouth. Number One, he says he wants he doesn't

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Speaker 2: want to get involved with regime training change. But here

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Speaker 2: he is going to be articulating who's going to be

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Speaker 2: the next head of Iran. And before he said that

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Speaker 2: he wanted the people to decide. Now what's going on here?

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Speaker 2: I mean he screwed up with Gnome. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't want you to be so positive about Trump. I

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Speaker 2: want you to be a little bit more down the line.

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Speaker 2: And I want tell me what you think. I know

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Speaker 2: what Trump to me is done wrong. What do you

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Speaker 2: think Trump needs to work on? Or do you think

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Speaker 2: everything that Trump does is accurate and correct?

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Speaker 1: No, I have never said that everything that Trump does

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Speaker 1: is accurate and correct. There's been any number of issues

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Speaker 1: that I've had disagreements with. Trump has a I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to think of some off the top of my head,

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Speaker 1: but from time to time I all come out and

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Speaker 1: for instances, some of the things that he puts on

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Speaker 1: social media. I've come out and I asked myself, like

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Speaker 1: the one that was around, I don't know. It was

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Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, I guess. And there was

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a meme that popped up at

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Speaker 1: the end of it and had it was a couple

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Speaker 1: of monkeys with the faces of Barack and Michelle Obama

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Speaker 1: on it, And I'm thinking, how, how is anything like

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Speaker 1: that even in proximity to the president. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know who put that tweet out. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he did, but I just wish stuff like that would

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Speaker 1: stop some of the stuff. And look, when I was

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Speaker 1: getting ready to talk about Christy nome here in a moment,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I'm that's part of what Trump does

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Speaker 1: if you are running. And it turns out and I

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Speaker 1: didn't know about this thing with Christy no and the

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Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars ad contract, and it turns out

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Speaker 1: that a good part of that contract went to the

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Speaker 1: husband of Tricia McLaughlin, who recently stepped away from her

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Speaker 1: role with the the Department of Homeland Security. And I'm thinking,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking a Triciaan McLaughlin saw the writing on the

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Speaker 1: wall and got away from that. So I say good

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Speaker 1: for her, But no, when it comes to Trump, if

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Speaker 1: you listen to the show on a regular basis, there

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Speaker 1: are times when I disagree with some of the stuff

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Speaker 1: that he does. When now, when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: whole idea of war, I was hoping that it would

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Speaker 1: not come to this. I was hoping that we would

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Speaker 1: not have the specter and I'm hoping that we don't.

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Speaker 1: And I know it's been talked about, but the specter

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Speaker 1: of boots on the ground, I'm hoping that that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: I think I think, by and large, I think Trump

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Speaker 1: is a man of peace. He's a businessman and I

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Speaker 1: and I've said this to any number of guests that

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Speaker 1: I've had on this show that analyze Trump for a living,

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Speaker 1: and I said, look, Trump looks at this from a

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Speaker 1: business perspective, and he knows that peace is better for

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Speaker 1: business than war. And he is at times said almost

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Speaker 1: those exact words that he believes that peace is better

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Speaker 1: than war, and peace is better for business than war.

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Speaker 2: So we're so dichotomous, you and I in the sense

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Speaker 2: that you see that as a businessman, I think Trump

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Speaker 2: looks at things expediently and he wants to get the

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Speaker 2: minds off of Epstein. Number one.

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Speaker 10: Number two.

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Speaker 2: The man loves power. I know people that he worked

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Speaker 2: for Trump. I won't say their names, but he loves power.

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Speaker 2: He loves the dictators, He loves to be in control,

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Speaker 2: gold and everything like that. You've got to be honest

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Speaker 2: with this. He is everything ninety of everything that he starts.

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Speaker 2: This failed, his water, his gambling, his casinos. It's it's this.

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Speaker 2: He got four hundred million dollars from his dad. Uh,

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Speaker 2: it's just the idea that he just It shows you

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Speaker 2: the types of people that he has in his Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know you got hexa you think honestly, you can

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Speaker 2: ask look, come to my way of thinking.

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Speaker 1: You're making a connection there that is not necessarily there

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Speaker 1: does Trump like? But I can't agree with you that

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Speaker 1: Trump likes power, that Trump likes to be in power,

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Speaker 1: that Trump likes to be the one who calls the shots.

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Speaker 1: He likes to be the one that makes the decision.

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Speaker 1: And well, no, great, no, And I don't find fault

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Speaker 1: with that. I don't think there's anything wrong. Well, I think,

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Speaker 1: why why is that? Because someone is good and has

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Speaker 1: he's he was the head of the corporation. He was

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Speaker 1: the head of the business. When it came to the business,

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Speaker 1: he ran the business. When he ran his campaign, he

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Speaker 1: had all kinds of people telling him he can't do

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Speaker 1: it this way, shouldn't do this, shouldn't do that. He

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Speaker 1: ran the campaign the way he thought the campaign ought

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Speaker 1: to be run. And what are the results. He got

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Speaker 1: elected twice. He got elected twice as president. I know,

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Speaker 1: so his instincts in this area are right. And that's

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Speaker 1: what makes it just one of the most remarkable political

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Speaker 1: stories in the history of this country, if not the

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Speaker 1: most remarkable political story we've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: I know that he appealed to the white male who

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Speaker 2: felt left out ostracized. But here's the thing that you've

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Speaker 2: got to understand is that no man by himself has

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Speaker 2: absolute knowledge on economics.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he does. Look at the people

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Speaker 1: he surrounded himself with is absolutely. You're saying Scott descent

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Speaker 1: is terrible. You're saying this guy doesn't know what he's

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Speaker 1: talking about. You're saying that is terrible when it comes

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Speaker 1: to economics. I mean that's what you're telling me.

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Speaker 2: Yes, no, they're terrible. They have no lacumen head Seth

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Speaker 2: has act what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're looking at wait, wait, you're looking at

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Speaker 1: Pete hegg Seth and his conduct and we got to

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Speaker 1: run Greg. But you're saying, you're saying Pete hegg Seth

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Speaker 1: and the way and the way he's managed this whole operation.

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Speaker 1: Epic fury shows what that he's not capable of doing

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Speaker 1: this job.

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Speaker 2: No he's not, Yes, he's not. Everybody goes see the

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Speaker 2: Elvis movie.

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Speaker 1: Greg. I think we lost Greg. We lost him. I

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Speaker 1: didn't cut him off. We lost him. Eleven twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: We got news coming up at the bottom of the

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Speaker 1: If you want to be like Greg five one, three, seven,

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Speaker 1: four nine seven The Big One, as we roll on

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Speaker 1: till midnight tonight on the Thursday night edition of The

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Speaker 1: Midweek Crisis seven hundred W LW. Right back on the

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Speaker 1: Big One seven hundred W l W eleven forty Thursday

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Speaker 1: night edition of The Midweek Crisis We rolled midnight tonight.

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Speaker 1: A couple of things I want to touch on real

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Speaker 1: quick here, and that's the dismissal of christineom and she

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Speaker 1: is out as Director of Homeland Security. Christineom Trump said

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Speaker 1: has served us well, has had numerous and spectacular results.

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Speaker 1: He said, she is going to move to be the

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Speaker 1: Special Envoy for the Shield of America, a new security

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Speaker 1: initiative in the Western Hemisphere that Trump is announcing in

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Speaker 1: d Ralph, Florida. And I guess that's going to happen

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Speaker 1: on Saturday. So we'll see if christineom actually does land

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Speaker 1: that position when Trump announces that on Saturday. A couple

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Speaker 1: of things I didn't know about Christine Nom and this

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Speaker 1: one which at least on the initial reading, does not

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Speaker 1: pass the smell test. And that was a a two

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollar ad contract that raises a question about

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Speaker 1: nomes testimony on Capitol Hill the other day. The Department

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Speaker 1: of Homeland Security allowed only four hand pick companies to

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Speaker 1: bid on a two hundred million dollar ad campaign, including

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Speaker 1: a brand new company that later subcontracted the work to

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Speaker 1: the spouse of a top department official. A document reviewed

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Speaker 1: by The Daily Wire shows the record raises questions about

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Speaker 1: the testimony by Homeland Security Secretary Christy Nome to the

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Speaker 1: Senate on Tuesday, in which she told senators at contracts

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Speaker 1: for a television ad campaign starring herself went out to

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Speaker 1: a competitive bid and career officials at the department shows

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Speaker 1: who would do those advertising commercials. Procurement records show that

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Speaker 1: the anti illegal immigration ad work was awarded using other

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Speaker 1: than a full and open company petition. A competition waiver

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Speaker 1: suggested the Department used internet research and industry publications to

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Speaker 1: identify Safe America Media LLC is one of only four

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Speaker 1: companies capable of quickly doing a successful two hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollar ad campaign, even though Safe American Media was only

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Speaker 1: incorporated days earlier. So when you when you see things

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Speaker 1: like that, it doesn't pass the smell test. And if

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Speaker 1: Christy Nouam was allowing some I look at that and

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Speaker 1: I say, that's kind of slip shot work right there.

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Speaker 2: That is not.

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Speaker 1: That's not if I was running the Department of Homeland Security,

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Speaker 1: I would not expect the bid process for an ad

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Speaker 1: campaign to go out like that. And is a commercial

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Speaker 1: ad campaign really of that much importance that you have

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Speaker 1: to create waivers because you need this done right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how long a normal ad campaign costing

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Speaker 1: two hundred million would take, but it is it really

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Speaker 1: of that much? And I know there's things happening at

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Speaker 1: the border. I know they wanted to get the message

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Speaker 1: out about paying people to leave the country who are

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Speaker 1: here illegally chance to come back in getting that message

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Speaker 1: out is important. I agree with that, but that does

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Speaker 1: that really justify short circuiting the process that's in place.

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Speaker 1: Let's see three of the four companies expressed in writing

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Speaker 1: an interest in the acquisition. The first was Safe American Media,

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Speaker 1: which ultimately got the contract and which later subcontracted a

1506
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 1: portion of the work to Strategy Group. The company is

1507
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:03,520
Speaker 1: run by Benyoh, the husband of nolame's first Assistant Secretary

1508
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 1: of Public Affairs, Tricia McLaughlin, who was from Cincinnati, who

1509
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 1: stepped away from the Department of Homeland Security. I believe

1510
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 1: the date was February twenty seven, So I'm thinking that

1511
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 1: electrician McLaughlin is a very smart person. I'm thinking she

1512
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:25,600
Speaker 1: had enough on the ball to see the handwriting on

1513
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 1: the wall, and she decided to get away from that

1514
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 1: cluster Broms as soon as she could. So we'll see

1515
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 1: if anything comes of this. I mean, in the big

1516
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 1: scheme of things, two hundred million isn't that much, but

1517
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 1: still it's a significant, to my way of thinking, a

1518
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 1: significant chunk of change. And if there's a process in place,

1519
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:47,600
Speaker 1: to do this the right way. You got to do

1520
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:51,719
Speaker 1: things the right way. And I know Trump wants things

1521
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 1: done now, right now, to his satisfaction, but that doesn't

1522
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 1: mean you can short circuit the process. Because anything that

1523
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:09,959
Speaker 1: that stinks like this, If you don't think some Democrats

1524
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 1: are going to start digging into this and try and

1525
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 1: call foul on this, well then then I think you're

1526
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 1: sadly mistaken, because I'm pretty sure that is going to happen.

1527
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:22,679
Speaker 1: And then the other thing that I didn't know about

1528
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 1: was this fooling around with Corey Lewandowski. I like Lewandowski

1529
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:36,640
Speaker 1: a lot. Christy Nome got called out on it in

1530
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 1: this hearing the other day and it did not look good.

1531
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 1: And I'm sure Trump saw that and said, you know,

1532
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,680
Speaker 1: we don't need that kind of baggage. Time to let

1533
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 1: it go. So that's uh, that's my take on Christy

1534
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:51,639
Speaker 1: No Raphael, what's going on tonight?

1535
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 6: Everything's good, brother, Dan, How you doing?

1536
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm all right? What you got for me tonight?

1537
01:32:57,720 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 2: Sorry?

1538
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm sorry about last night. I was on a

1539
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 1: little bit of a role and I didn't look at

1540
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 1: the screen until it was we only had about forty

1541
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 1: five seconds left, and for a guy like you, that's

1542
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 1: not nearly enough time.

1543
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:14,520
Speaker 4: Hey, I appreciate, I appreciate, I appreciated.

1544
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 7: Hey.

1545
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 1: Man so earlier.

1546
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 4: Today I think it was today.

1547
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 1: I don't think this morning or so.

1548
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 6: Don John had a few comments he.

1549
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 4: Made to I guess, a reporter with Axios.

1550
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 5: And.

1551
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 1: One of his quotes, in reference to the.

1552
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 6: Iranian Iranian new Supreme Leader, Don John was quoted as

1553
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 6: saying that I have to be involved in the new

1554
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:52,719
Speaker 6: Supreme Leader to be seated now. Not that I should

1555
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 6: be involved, I want to be involved, but I have

1556
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 6: to be involved now, Dan, if you could, can you

1557
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 6: please try to convince me on why I should be

1558
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 6: okay with a supposed sitting president of the United States

1559
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 6: of America making a public statement like that.

1560
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 1: Well, no, you will, or Rafael, you don't have to

1561
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 1: be okay with it. I don't know that I'm okay

1562
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 1: with it either. And so the first thing that I

1563
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 1: would caution was that it was Axios that published the report.

1564
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 1: Maybe they're quoting him correctly, maybe they're not. So there

1565
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:36,679
Speaker 1: is that possibility. And it turns out that Newsmax wrote

1566
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 1: the piece up and it's a little bit farther down

1567
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 1: in the piece but they talk about Trump's reasoning for

1568
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:48,640
Speaker 1: wanting to have a hand in the selection of the

1569
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 1: next reader or the next reader, next leader of Iran.

1570
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 1: To my way of thinking, there's this body. I'm trying

1571
01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 1: to find this part in the piece where they talk

1572
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:02,679
Speaker 1: about this body that is responsible for let me see

1573
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 1: comments come as Iran's clerical establishment ways it's next moved.

1574
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 1: After Comedy was killed, Aron's Assembly of Experts, the body

1575
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 1: responsible for choosing the country's supreme leader, has delayed announcing

1576
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 1: a successor. The officials have suggested a decision could come soon,

1577
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 1: and they're talking about how Comedy's son maybe the one,

1578
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 1: and there are reports tonight that that guy may already

1579
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 1: be dead. So I don't know. But no, the whole

1580
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 1: idea that Trump should have a hand in that, or

1581
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 1: have a say so in that is I don't know

1582
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 1: if that's exactly what he means by that. I don't

1583
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:47,679
Speaker 1: think it's the right way to go. Maybe I don't

1584
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 1: know if they're talking about I haven't really heard about

1585
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 1: any talk about elections and letting the people elect someone

1586
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 1: to lead them. But if you look at some of

1587
01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 1: the reasoning that Trump talks, he says Comedy's son is unacceptable,

1588
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 1: unacceptable to me. We want someone that will bring harmony

1589
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 1: and peace to Iran, he says. He warned that installing

1590
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:16,679
Speaker 1: another leader who follows the Elder Comedy's hardline agenda could

1591
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 1: drag the United States back in the conflict. If they

1592
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 1: put someone like that in, we'll be back at war

1593
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 1: in five years, he said. So I look at that reasoning.

1594
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 1: I think that to me sounds perfectly reasonable. That you

1595
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:33,640
Speaker 1: don't want to create a situation where we're looking at

1596
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 1: this again, the same sort of scenario five years down

1597
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:39,719
Speaker 1: the road. Can we agree that that that's a reasonable,

1598
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 1: a reasonable position to have?

1599
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:42,640
Speaker 3: No.

1600
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 6: I no agreement for me on that one, okay, because

1601
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 6: I just that's just more bs from Don john Well.

1602
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 1: I mean, do you want the United States to I

1603
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 1: don't want this war to last. I don't want this

1604
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:56,680
Speaker 1: war to last five months, and as sure as ILL

1605
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 1: don't want it to last five years and five years. Yeah,

1606
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 1: it's like I don't want to stand having the same

1607
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 1: conversation with a different president five years down the road,

1608
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:07,920
Speaker 1: do you. I certainly don't want that.

1609
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, I heard earlier that some

1610
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 6: institute policy you know, Think Tank they're estimating sixty million

1611
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 6: dollars a day for the Iranian unnecessary you know war.

1612
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 6: To me, But Dan, if I'm not mistaken, well we

1613
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 6: disagree on.

1614
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 1: That because I don't know if you were around in

1615
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine when surely when the American hostages were

1616
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 1: taken it really was. I don't know if you've had

1617
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:46,680
Speaker 1: a look at the extensive list of all the Americans

1618
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 1: who have died at the hand of Iranian terrorists and

1619
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 1: operatives in in Iran, in the Middle East and around

1620
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:56,200
Speaker 1: the world. I don't know if you've had a look

1621
01:37:56,240 --> 01:38:00,640
Speaker 1: at that. So this is something he's been on a

1622
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:04,560
Speaker 1: war footing against us since nineteen seventy nine. So I

1623
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 1: don't think this is a new war. I think hopefully

1624
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 1: this is the end of something that's been going on

1625
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 1: for all those decades now.

1626
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 6: And if I'm not mistaken, Dan, the other night when

1627
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 6: Don John right before his million dollar plate, you know, dinner,

1628
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 6: you know, he makes the announcement and everything, you know,

1629
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 6: But I thought he said, I can't remember if it

1630
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 6: was that night or the next day, that the next

1631
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 6: leader it should be up to the Iranian people. Let

1632
01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 6: them decide who they want as their next leader.

1633
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 10: Did he not say that or words to.

1634
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 1: That effect, you're proud. I don't remember that speech specifically,

1635
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 1: but again, if he said that, I think that is

1636
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 1: the way to go instead of I don't think. I

1637
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:57,599
Speaker 1: don't think Trump or any president sitting in the White

1638
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 1: House should be making the decision on who the leader

1639
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:04,560
Speaker 1: of Iran or any country around the world ought to be.

1640
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 1: I just don't.

1641
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:12,639
Speaker 6: It's almost unprecedented from a United States president, isn't it UNPRECEDENTEDE?

1642
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I don't. I don't think it's unprecedented.

1643
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 1: I think We've had a lot of presidents over there,

1644
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:20,720
Speaker 1: and I'd have to research.

1645
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 6: I have to be involved, and I can't splice that

1646
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:29,560
Speaker 6: any any other way than don John And I do

1647
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 6: think that he's not leaving the Oval Office stand he's gonna, No,

1648
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 6: that's not gonna But anyway, I'm I'm I don't want

1649
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 6: to go down that rab hole now because I know

1650
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 6: you're up against your time.

1651
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 1: But anyway, but when he says, I mean, you look,

1652
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:46,360
Speaker 1: you've gotta you've got to understand Trump speak a little

1653
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 1: bit and the way he says things and what he

1654
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:52,560
Speaker 1: means by that. So when he says involved, and we

1655
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 1: don't want someone in there who's going to have us

1656
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 1: back in war at five in five years time. That

1657
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 1: that's that's the reasoning, and that's he wants that thought

1658
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 1: process to be part of the whole process. I don't know.

1659
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:09,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it should be. I don't think we

1660
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 1: should be any of our intelligence analysts anything like that,

1661
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:17,000
Speaker 1: that we should be the ones who picked someone who's

1662
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:20,680
Speaker 1: going to run that country. Yeah, maybe maybe on an

1663
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:23,600
Speaker 1: interim or a temporary basis, but at some point the

1664
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 1: Iranian people have to decide who's going to lead their country.

1665
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 1: That is for them to decide.

1666
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:31,719
Speaker 6: And the reason why I say is DS once again

1667
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 6: from Don John, is because this is the same individual

1668
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:39,000
Speaker 6: you know when you hear him say about the h

1669
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 6: the attack and whatnot, that there was an imminent threat

1670
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 6: you know, from Iran, but there's no evidence of that whatsoever.

1671
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:50,639
Speaker 1: That's not true.

1672
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:51,880
Speaker 4: Okay.

1673
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 6: But anyway, you picked that up with me another day

1674
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 6: because I know you're against it, up against your time.

1675
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: And I base that because I listened to Steve Whitcoff

1676
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 1: talk about it the other day.

1677
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 5: With him.

1678
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:08,640
Speaker 1: He was with Cherry Well, he was the one that

1679
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 1: was in negotiations with him. Yeah, Kushner as well.

1680
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, those two individuals, Oh.

1681
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were They they were the ones who were

1682
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 1: carrying out the negotiations. They were the ones who know

1683
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:25,559
Speaker 1: what the back and forth was and what was being said,

1684
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 1: and they know. They're the ones who know why negotiations

1685
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 1: got to the point that they did and why we're

1686
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:35,360
Speaker 1: in the situation we are now. So Raphael, thank you

1687
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:37,240
Speaker 1: very much for the call. You're right, I am against

1688
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 1: clock and we do gotta go. Thank you very much,

1689
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 1: have a great weekend. We'll see you next week. Russ,

1690
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:44,639
Speaker 1: thank you for everything, and we will see you next week.

1691
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 1: Back here, uh for the Wednesday night edition of the

1692
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 1: Midweek Crisis. Actually, i'll see you for Sloan on Monday,

1693
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 1: so I'm looking forward to that on seven hundred W

1694
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 1: LW