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Speaker 4: I affectionately called the fish Rap Factory. West columnist esteemed

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Speaker 4: columnist Chips Coggins and a fellow would bury it.

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Speaker 2: How are you me?

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Speaker 4: Boy?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for coming in. I'm doing it. I don't know

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Speaker 2: about steam, but I'm a columnists where you probably get

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Speaker 2: peoples steam.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes you have columnist has to put as.

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Speaker 4: An opinion out there and people don't always agree. My

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Speaker 4: first question for you do you were you on the

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Speaker 4: It's okay to let Sam Darnold. Oh, we need to

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Speaker 4: see what we got her because I keep liking. I

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Speaker 4: keep liking to rhyme people. When they let him walk,

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Speaker 4: I said, well, you have the franchre. Every team is

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Speaker 4: searching for one. He's in your building. Why are you

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Speaker 4: letting him go.

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Speaker 2: They did.

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Speaker 4: We all know that the trials and tribulations of nine

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Speaker 4: and we see that Sam Darnold had a really good

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Speaker 4: performance against the Rams, and now they're going to the

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Speaker 4: big game.

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Speaker 2: Let me see, there was a column from me that

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Speaker 2: just posted at Starch June with the headline I was

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Speaker 2: wrong about saying Arnald's dead wrong. Okay, I didn't mind

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Speaker 2: me at COPA today. I was in the camp that

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Speaker 2: I believed in the plan of having a young quarterback

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Speaker 2: on a rookie contract in those last two games made

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Speaker 2: me nervous about committing more money to him, and he

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Speaker 2: proved me wrong. He proved me wrong. And so I

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Speaker 2: just thought the plan that they had in terms of

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Speaker 2: turn it over to JJ, building up the infrastructure around him,

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Speaker 2: taking that money that you would spend on a veteran

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Speaker 2: quarterback and putting on an offensive line, defensive line, all

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Speaker 2: that and fortifying all that. You know, the foundation around

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Speaker 2: him was gonna be enough. And you give him to

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Speaker 2: O'Connell and he could, you know, coach coach him up

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Speaker 2: and everything will be fine. And it was. It was

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Speaker 2: the wrong play. I mean, that was a veteran team.

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Speaker 2: They spent or they committed what three hundred million plus

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Speaker 2: in free agency to that roster. That roster was built

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Speaker 2: to win this season and contend this season and be

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Speaker 2: a you know, be relevant in the playoffs, and you

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Speaker 2: took where they aired. Was they miscalculated how much or

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Speaker 2: what his floor was or how much? Right have it?

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Speaker 2: Looking back at it, not having that year of practice

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Speaker 2: during the season where all we talked about was mechanics, mechanics, mechanics, mechanics.

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Speaker 2: This is wrong and that's wrong. Clearly needed another year

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Speaker 2: on the field and not just in the you know,

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Speaker 2: in the quarterback room, watching and learning. He needed to

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Speaker 2: be able to have the refs and work out refine

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Speaker 2: his mechanics. And so in hindsight, yeah, you franchise tag him.

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Speaker 2: Pay the forty million probably would have cost you what

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Speaker 2: two of those free agents, Yeah that you signed, probably two,

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Speaker 2: maybe three, but I would say more like two.

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Speaker 5: And the four of them weren't really game changers anyway.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you don't know that going in. I mean

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Speaker 2: I was all for the guys they signed.

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Speaker 4: I thought, yeah, yeah, you have players that have proven

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Speaker 4: they complain the league, They've made impacts Yeah, they're coming

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Speaker 4: off injury, they're a little older, but you know, you're

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Speaker 4: kind of playing for this year maybe two years, so

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Speaker 4: why not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they had they had resumes and you

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Speaker 2: But you felt like, okay for a tin that's built

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Speaker 2: you can to build around JJ. But if you had,

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Speaker 2: if you had franchise tag them, it was just a

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Speaker 2: series of miscalculations not franchising them, overestimating, or not having

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Speaker 2: a plan B. If Daniel Jones didn't re sign here,

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Speaker 2: I think they thought they had that worked out as

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Speaker 4: There were those that were saying, right in a couple

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Speaker 2: Now when you know I can't game, you can play

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Speaker 4: You could also say, well, if the Bears don't blow

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Speaker 2: Quarter, and if you.

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Speaker 4: Look back at some of those vikings game and I

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Speaker 4: didn't go over. I didn't dissect them, but there were

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Speaker 4: several close games they won that could have gone either

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Speaker 2: Jordan loving the whole team.

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Speaker 1: So but.

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Speaker 4: And that was you know, that was another topic was

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Speaker 4: you know there's that passive tanking you talk about. You know,

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Speaker 4: the coach said, no, I want to win games because

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Speaker 4: I think it's a building block for the following season.

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Speaker 4: I know you can't look players in locker room and say,

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Speaker 4: guys were tanking. I need you to play as badly

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Speaker 4: as you can. But a coach can dummy down play

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Speaker 4: some guys that you know are backups and stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: They can try to and not tell guys to lose.

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Speaker 4: Play as hard as you can. If we win, we win,

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Speaker 4: but we're gonna we're gonna see what we have on

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Speaker 4: the roster. I don't know if that if that's the

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Speaker 4: smart thing to do. I sometimes I felt at the time,

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Speaker 4: if you're you're drafting at twelve that might be better.

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Speaker 2: You know, well, I understand that philosophy, But the way

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Speaker 2: I looked as like, you need to try to build

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Speaker 2: something with JJ. Obviously you need to get him, yeah,

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Speaker 2: in a better spot at the end of the season

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Speaker 2: up on that, like, are you really gonna say that

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Speaker 2: That's what would happen. I mean, these players, That's the

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Speaker 2: if it was subtly just saying you know, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: out quickly. Now did they finish in probably the worst

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Speaker 2: in drafting, But I still think it was important for

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Speaker 4: So where do you think the quarterback situation stands the Vikings?

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Speaker 2: I don't think I said anything publicly that I'm aware

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Speaker 4: Like, if McCarthy's for sure our number one guy, there's

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Speaker 4: a speculation you bring in a veteran. Do you bring

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Speaker 4: the veteran to actually compete for the job. Do you

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Speaker 4: go out and try to make a blockbuster trade for

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow or something like that?

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Speaker 2: What do you what's your guess or anything? Maybe you're hearing, well,

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Speaker 2: I know the Joe Burr or you know the blockbuster trades.

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Speaker 2: A fun talker, I just don't see that happening. I

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Speaker 2: think this, you know, it might be a little bit

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Speaker 2: in that two percent. You know, we'll give it that

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Speaker 2: feel comfortable because with JJ's injury, history. You have to

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Speaker 2: to go into thinking that might happen because of what

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Speaker 2: we've seen to this date. So is that Malik Willis?

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Speaker 2: Does he get a starting role? Is he above that tier?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that looks like or who you

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Speaker 2: come back. And nothing we've heard from them since has

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Speaker 2: to get to get patience. But I think you have

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Speaker 2: to have a much better quarterback situation than what they

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Speaker 2: the postseason. Well, maybe they did and you got hurt

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Speaker 2: be about how quasy and and Kevin O'Connell sell it

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Speaker 2: to whoever the quarterback he is, right, there's a chance

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Speaker 2: we haven't named a starter. You have a chance to

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Speaker 4: They're not in a great spot right in other positions

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Speaker 5: Playoffs and then a lot of hope for.

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Speaker 4: This year and it didn't go well. Where do you

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Speaker 2: Caught a lot of heat for not you know, the

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Speaker 2: drafts have not been the best. Let's face it, well,

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Speaker 2: it sort of feels like they're back to the competitive

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Speaker 2: SOURCAF situations not in great shape right now. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: That was my fault, tendebe.

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Speaker 5: I should have thrown the tease or the string to you.

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Speaker 4: The the college athletic landscape Ozley has changed completely with

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Speaker 4: I say, if I'm Mark Cuban, can I go here

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's one hundred million dollars for your athletic department.

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Speaker 5: And so Signette obviously to deserves a lot of credit.

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Speaker 4: Amount of players that you're bringing from his school that

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Speaker 2: You know. I don't think people, they casual observers knew

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Speaker 2: just look around. It has you can you can plug holes.

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Speaker 1: And more.

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Speaker 2: I don't know easier is the right word, but a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not going to outspend probably those those blue

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Speaker 2: I think I would take that money and put it

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Speaker 2: on my offensive defense line. And they've done that, and

436
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 2: that's where they have to be smart about how they

437
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Speaker 2: allocate their their revenue share and their nil money.

438
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Speaker 5: Some of those other.

439
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Speaker 4: Teams, they can get line in any way they want

440
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Speaker 4: to play at the helmet school, or they can pay both.

441
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 2: Or they could play they can play both. That's exactly right.

442
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 4: Over the weekend about Fred Hoiberg and Nebraska, you talk about, hey,

443
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Speaker 4: if they can do it at Indiana, why can't we

444
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Speaker 4: do it in Minnesota? If you can do it at Nebraska,

445
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,640
Speaker 4: why can't you do it Minnesota. They're twenty at all,

446
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 4: they're undefeated, and they're not doing it with smoking mirrors.

447
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 4: This isn't look this is a this is a good basketball.

448
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look at Freddy's first three years first win, first year,

449
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 2: season seven wins, yep, second season seven wins, third season

450
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 2: ten wins. They were not filling the bar. And when

451
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 2: he came here after those first three, I mean they

452
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 2: were there was questions about, like what's going on here?

453
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 2: But they showed patients. I talked to Freddy and they

454
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 2: had a really, you know, a pretty significant rebuild and

455
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: you went through COVID and so his administration stuck by

456
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 2: him and said, no, we're standing by and let you

457
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Speaker 2: work your way through this. And they're being rewarded for it.

458
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 2: And I mean to think that Nebraska is twenty and

459
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Speaker 2: zero in basketball and they're good. I don't know, if

460
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 2: you watch them, they're really good. Yeah.

461
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Speaker 4: I watched the second I missed the first half. I look,

462
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Speaker 4: I'm I turn on the TV. Covers up six and

463
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Speaker 4: a half. I'm going, hey, yeah, And they were just

464
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 4: completely They.

465
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Speaker 2: Ran a gas and then kay Tyson got hurt. And

466
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 2: that's a thing about I'm really impressed with Nico Medved

467
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 2: and what he's done in his system. They just need

468
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 2: more players and upgrade the town. But he's they're kind

469
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,360
Speaker 2: of running on fumes now with all the injuries. But yeah,

470
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 2: with Freddy, when Nebraska's doing it's they again. They got

471
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Speaker 2: some guys out of the portal. The kid from Iowa

472
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 2: inside leading score, he's averaged seventeen. Really good player. It

473
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 2: is probably gonna be the NBA player. So if you

474
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Speaker 2: can develop young players and supplement it with really good

475
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Speaker 2: portal players, it can happen.

476
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Speaker 4: Well, you talk about Neil Money, there's a kid on

477
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Speaker 4: that team that you and I know very well, Kendall Blue.

478
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 4: Kendall played at east Ridge, really talented kid, went to

479
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Speaker 4: Saint Thomas, played there.

480
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Speaker 2: Now he's with Nebraska.

481
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Speaker 4: I'm told by sours I Trust that they think it

482
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Speaker 4: might be upwards of four hundred thousand dollars team.

483
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Speaker 2: You're spot on, and he's that's what college basketball players

484
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 2: are getting. But he's not even playing.

485
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Speaker 4: That's what he came in at the end of the

486
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Speaker 4: game and they gave him some time, and he made

487
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Speaker 4: it three at the very end of the game.

488
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Speaker 5: But it's like they got that kind of money for

489
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Speaker 5: a guy.

490
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Speaker 2: That's I mean, because and Kento's.

491
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 4: Are a really good player, but he's he's riding he's a

492
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 4: he's riding the pine for them, right man.

493
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 2: Look at what that's what college basketball players are getting.

494
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: I mean, they're they're making six figures, some of them

495
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: seven figures. I mean, that's just hell. Why wasn't I born?

496
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 2: I should have been good at college? I should have

497
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Speaker 2: had a good at basketball.

498
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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I wish I would have been

499
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 4: born twenty years ago when I was six eight.

500
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Speaker 2: Gosh'd be a pretty same gig.

501
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Speaker 4: We'll break, We'll come back on a couple more topics

502
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Speaker 4: to talk with Chip with Chip with with Chip with

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Speaker 4: Ship with on.

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Speaker 2: The other side of the break in our last segment

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Speaker 2: Chip's dogging in for one more segment here. Appreciate you

514
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Speaker 2: coming in today.

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Speaker 1: I do it.

516
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Speaker 4: On a cold day, it's hard to go out. It's

517
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Speaker 4: not bad, it's actually warming up. So probably the toughest

518
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Speaker 4: sell in town right now is in Minnesota twenties, right,

519
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Speaker 4: I mean, is there any more difficult?

520
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Speaker 2: No? Sell?

521
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Speaker 4: No?

522
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Speaker 2: And I was there Friday. We had the media kickoff

523
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Speaker 2: lunching that they have every year and as part of

524
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Speaker 2: a group interview with Tom pole Ad and I left

525
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Speaker 2: there and I told, you know, a couple of the

526
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Speaker 2: writers I was talking to, and then even someone connected

527
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 2: to the team, I said, you know, if I didn't

528
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 2: know his last name, I would tell you he came

529
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Speaker 2: across as genuine, came across as contrite with everything that happened,

530
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: came across as sellable. But his last name's poll at right, right.

531
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Speaker 2: And it's just such a uphill climb that they face.

532
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 2: And I credit Tom because he, you know, he went

533
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Speaker 2: through kind of a litany of mistakes that they made

534
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: with the you know, putting the team up for sale,

535
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: didn't go through the trade deadline, the not investing after

536
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Speaker 2: the playoff appearance, and he said, we stubbed our toes

537
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Speaker 2: and then if you combine that with things that were

538
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: maybe out of their control, with the economics and baseball,

539
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: with COVID, different things, he said, this is where we're

540
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: at and you have to be better. And he told

541
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Speaker 2: me that story. I don't know if you've seen it,

542
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: but he got a list of season ticket holders that

543
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 2: didn't renew and he had fifty of them. He went

544
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Speaker 2: through the list and he called all fifty these people,

545
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Speaker 2: just hey, why didn't you renew? Can we, you know,

546
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Speaker 2: do anything to try to get you back to the

547
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: ballpark and said one guy hung up on him three times.

548
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: He thought it was a prank call, so he actually

549
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 2: texted him and I think he said one one person said,

550
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Speaker 2: when you raised the uh uh payroll, I'll be back.

551
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: But I it's it'll be the greatest upset, you know,

552
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 2: if they can get people back on their side. But

553
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: I said this, how do you you know? To ask him,

554
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: do you think he can win back fans? He said yes,

555
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 2: and I said how And he said all these things

556
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: have talked about and I'm rolling up my sleeves, but

557
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: you know how you win back fans? The answer is

558
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: in that sense, you gotta win, you gotta win, you

559
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: gotta win.

560
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 4: Well, what else I I I guess I can say

561
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Speaker 4: I had admire about Tom was in the in the

562
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Speaker 4: news conference they held when he first became.

563
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Speaker 2: The guy that was going to be calling the shots.

564
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Speaker 4: It was and I think this was from your paper

565
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 4: It says I say these paragraphs because I thought this

566
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Speaker 4: was important, says Tom pole let Us succeeding his brother

567
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Speaker 4: Joe as the family member overseeing the Twins organization. He's

568
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 4: Tom said, it's been hard on our family. This decision

569
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Speaker 4: to make a transition within our family has been extremely difficult.

570
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 4: It's been hard on the relationship between Joe and myself.

571
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 4: It's been especially hard on my dad and my two uncles.

572
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 4: All Joe ever wanted was to be part of this

573
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Speaker 4: organization and elite it and help this franchise win a

574
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 4: world championship. Things change. We had to make a decision

575
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 4: as a family. He understands. He's been graceful, kind of

576
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 4: believes that whatever is in the best interest of the

577
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 4: organization is best. I thought being that forthcoming was because

578
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 4: you could have easily said, Joe's just decided, you know,

579
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 4: I really want to run the club, and Joe says, hey,

580
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 4: you know I had my chance, go ahead, a brother

581
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 4: do it. But they're basically senor. They butted heads about

582
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 4: it was hard between the relationships to them, but they

583
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 4: have to make a decision.

584
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I found him incredibly sincere. It was. I think

585
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: the messaging is going to be better, and I think

586
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 2: he understands that that they need to be able to

587
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: express what they're doing, what they're trying to do in

588
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 2: a better way. And I think with what happened with

589
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: Joe with the right sizing and the different messaging, it

590
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 2: fell flat at the time of what they were where

591
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: they're at, and so yeah, it's he's been honest about

592
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: This has been an uncomfortable situation for our family and

593
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: it's not ideal, but we had to make Look look

594
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: how I mean millions are they in debt? Was it

595
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:22,239
Speaker 2: four hundred million? Yeah, they couldn't proceed if they were

596
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: going to remain owners down that path and they realized that.

597
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: So but again, I think the messaging is better. I

598
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: think obviously Tom is going to be more visible in

599
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: terms of giving that message, but actions I can be

600
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Speaker 2: part of it. Right, You've got to spend money and

601
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: you've got to win.

602
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Speaker 4: Their nucleus is okay, but it's not very large. It's

603
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 4: Buxton who is just now. I mean, but he that's

604
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 4: this is the first time, other than one another year,

605
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 4: that he stayed healthy and played like the player everybody

606
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 4: predicted he would be. Lewis was at one time, I

607
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 4: think the top rank player, not just in his in

608
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 4: the Twins organization, but all base all. He started out

609
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 4: really well, but he's fought injury problems. It has been

610
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 4: It's good, but those are your two plays are kind

611
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 4: of building around. There's a couple others, and of course

612
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: that pitching staff with Lopez and Joe Ryan. I remember

613
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 4: Joe Ryan last year was none too happy with the organization.

614
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 4: He was pretty he was pretty frontal publicly about that

615
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 4: he was not happy with the direction that was going.

616
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: And after the deadline his performance, I mean, he was

617
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: clearly disgruntled by what happened. So but you know, he

618
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: just got a new contract was yesterday. I think it's

619
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Speaker 2: all and the arbitration, yeah, so yeah, I mean they're

620
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: gonna Tom said, this is not a rebuild, it's a reset.

621
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: It looks like a class agree. Really, I mean it's

622
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: phrasing there, but they they're gonna need some guys to

623
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: outperform what their expectations are. Now, if they can get

624
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: some of these young guys that are in the you

625
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: know in Saint Paul Walker, Jenkins or Jenkins, those guys,

626
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: if they get here and can provide some energy and

627
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: a boost and all those things, that will help. But

628
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Speaker 2: it looks like a tough year or where you're trying

629
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Speaker 2: to win back fans.

630
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Speaker 4: Wild's all in, yeah, with with with the trade to

631
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 4: stay healthy. But yeah, they they've got uh, they got

632
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 4: a healthy roster. No, yeah, they're you know, and as

633
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 4: Tendebe and I've talked about and Russo and everybody else

634
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 4: that that that that that follows it closely.

635
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Speaker 2: It's like you're kind of stuck right now.

636
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 4: You're probably gonna play Dallas, which is gonna be a

637
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 4: tough one, and then if you get buy Dallas, you

638
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 4: got to play the Lanch probably by the way, you

639
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 4: gotta played Colorado.

640
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: Right right, right, Yeah, it's it's I hate the format.

641
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's been mentioned on this show a few

642
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: times about the format. But yeah, well do you I

643
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: guess you have to hold your breath and hope they

644
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: all come back from the Olympics healthy.

645
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: Right.

646
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Speaker 2: That's the one thing that I would if I was

647
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Speaker 2: Billy Garren, I would be nervous that a Boldie or

648
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: you know, somebody comes back with it, they get a

649
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: significant injury there, So hopefully that can happened. But yeah,

650
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: it's they're they're built to win. Yeah, and so but

651
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: their division is obviously very tough, and you're gonna have

652
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: to go through Colorado at some point.

653
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 4: So and you know, people are discussed as tend to be,

654
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 4: as brought up a number of times in the show,

655
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 4: they'll probably get another player because now is the time

656
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 4: because with caprice House contract kicking next year, and then

657
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 4: if you're going to keep Quinn, you're going to have

658
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 4: to give him money. So they got money right now

659
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 4: to Spence. If you're going to do it, you go

660
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 4: ahead and try to get a guy either, I mean

661
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 4: they talk a lot about getting in frontline center or

662
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 4: you know, at least a forward or somebody.

663
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: I would be stunned if Billy sits still right. I

664
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: feel like there's still another move out there, because there's

665
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: just so many moments where you feel like, okay, we

666
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: can go for it. And I think this is one

667
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: of those moments well.

668
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 4: And I feel the same way about the Wild and

669
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 4: the situation they are in the way I did when

670
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 4: the Wolves with Conley, when he made the blockbuster trade

671
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 4: for gold Bet. At the time, I said, I don't

672
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 4: know if it's going to work, but with the history

673
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 4: of this team and as bad as it's been, I'm

674
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 4: willing to try anything now. And it worked out pretty well.

675
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: And then the Town's trade get Julius. Randall's become a

676
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 4: completely different player since injury last year. He played really

677
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 4: well on the h uh what was left of last

678
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 4: season and this year he's been a team leader and

679
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 4: been really really good. There was that piece in your

680
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 4: paper about how he's really found comfort and peace getting

681
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 4: to the gym early and really you know where he's been,

682
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 4: where he's going, where he's at, that kind of thing,

683
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 4: just you know, really finding his way in the NBA.

684
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 4: And you know with ant, I mean, they've got talent,

685
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 4: there's no question, but.

686
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: They're thin, but there they have to add add to

687
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: that roster. Yeah, I mean, I don't think you can

688
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: still at the trade deadline their bench other than nas

689
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: now Bones Highland had a nice game last night. But

690
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: he's hot and cold. They just don't have enough and

691
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: so Tim Conley has to go out and make a

692
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: move in it. I think point guard ideally, But even

693
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: if it's not that you need a wing, you need

694
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: another you need a veteran. You can say, you know what,

695
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: every night he's getting us twelve to thirteen points. Yeah

696
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: every night. Yeah, they need another guy. They're just too thin.

697
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 4: And yeah, and you know if if, if they can

698
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 4: do that, you know, I get annoyed. Sometimes the comments

699
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 4: can't out again. After this this five game losing sweet,

700
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 4: they finally snapped. Saw a piece interview a post game

701
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 4: with anth and a couple of other players.

702
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: It's like a well, sometimes it just seems like the

703
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: other team's try and hurd.

704
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 4: It's like, well, all the time, I make it so

705
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 4: but I think it probably happens with other teams too,

706
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 4: because you'll see other teams say the same thing.

707
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: I guess each team.

708
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 4: Is sort of just kind of if you know, you're

709
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 4: a top six team, and right now the Wolves are

710
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 4: they are.

711
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: I check the standard this morning, they are number six.

712
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 4: If you're a top sixteen, you're a nice pot because

713
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 4: the Wolves are proven, even with a sixth seed, you

714
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 4: can get to the conference finals.

715
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: They did it last year as a sixth seed.

716
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 4: So I think you just kind of it's almost like

717
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 4: trying to stay healthy, trying to win as you know,

718
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 4: the games that you have to win.

719
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: You know, when you're playing.

720
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: Other contending teams that are on your level, you want

721
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 4: to maybe send a little bit of a message and

722
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 4: get a you know, kind of get a feel for

723
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 4: what you're about. But it's it's like, I don't think

724
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 4: they can miss the playoffs buying total collapse or some

725
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 4: bad injuries.

726
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: They'll be in. Its just a matter of how far

727
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: can they take it to. Yeah, And I wrote a

728
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: column last week after one of their losses. I can't

729
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: remember which one it was, but I looked at their

730
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: record against the teams that were the five teams ahead

731
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: of them in the playoffs. They were three and ten

732
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: this year. Now, against teams with sub five hundred records,

733
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: they were seventeen to five. Now, they weren't always dominating

734
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: those games. They kind of tend to just, you know,

735
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: do enough to get by. They don't bury teams like

736
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 2: you see the Thunder do a lot. The Thunder just

737
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: come out to take So I think that's where the

738
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: fan frustration gets in a lot of times, that the

739
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: Wolves will play just kind of lack of days ago

740
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: for a stretch and then turn it on and win

741
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: the game. But they're I mean, look aunt Randall McDaniels,

742
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: I mean, they have high end talent. So is it

743
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: are they just going to turn on a switch in

744
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: the playoffs? You know they're good. But here's the thing.

745
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 2: It's one thing to beat the Thunder, you know, on

746
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: a Tuesday in February, or the Spurs. Can you beat

747
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: those teams four times in the seven game series?

748
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: Yep?

749
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: And that's what's happening. I just think they're too thin

750
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: right now. You need another player before you can say yes.

751
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 4: And both the last two seasons they've had appearances in

752
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 4: the Western Conference Finals were both four games to one

753
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 4: or one four to two.

754
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: I know, I know the one, yeah, I was Thunder four.

755
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: I can't remember. I think that.

756
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 5: I think the Thunder might have been a four to

757
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 5: one too.

758
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 4: But you know, that goes to show you that they're

759
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 4: equipped to get to the finals. But boy, when they

760
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 4: would meet that that other team that got there to

761
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 4: see who goes and.

762
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: They're just prepared for you, They're not just coming in

763
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 2: on a back to back or whatever. They're prepared for you.

764
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

765
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a totally different thing.

766
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 4: Back to the NFL, it talked about a lot, who

767
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 4: do you like rams versus two really good stories?

768
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: I mean New England.

769
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 4: I think I've seen New England win enough of my

770
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 4: lifetime now, and I know it's a different regime and

771
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 4: all that as Brady's gone, but you know, pulling.

772
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: For Donald, yeah, I think I know.

773
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: I am.

774
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: I did in my column at the end of last year,

775
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 2: before the playoffs, I went around the Vikings locker room

776
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: talked to just dozens players and coaches and I just said,

777
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: give me your best Sam Donald's story or fun fact.

778
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: And the thing I took away was how much they

779
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 2: loved him, Like he was so popular and so well

780
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: liked inside the locker room just as a guy. And

781
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: you're hearing that in.

782
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 5: The Seattle locker after the wins this past so he just.

783
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: Kind of has that personality and it was genuine. I mean,

784
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: you could just tell that he was in staffers that

785
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: told me that privately, he's really really well liked because

786
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: he's just a good guy. So I'm happy for him. Yeah,

787
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: you know, I mean we all myself, we doubted he

788
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: could win a big game. And well he played just

789
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: spectacularly against the Rams and the time too.

790
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 4: Yeah he had to because when the good as that

791
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 4: did that, and that goes ashow you how good the

792
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 4: Rams are, that Seattle's a top ranked defense, and it

793
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 4: turned into we got out score them.

794
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they did.

795
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 4: And I you know, as much as I like Sam

796
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 4: and wanted the Vikings to keep them, you were still

797
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 4: saying you still because like he had twenty turnovers this year. Yeah,

798
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 4: you know, he fumbles and interceptions. So as they're playing

799
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 4: that game, it's like, well, Sam's got to take him

800
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 4: down the field again, and you're thinking to yourself, is

801
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 4: this the time he's gonna throw at.

802
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 2: A bad pass? But he never really threw. He threw

803
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 2: maybe one pass that could have been picked.

804
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 4: A couple were off target, but he three different times

805
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 4: he released the honest three touchdown passes. He got hit

806
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 4: hard on each one of them. He stood in the

807
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: pocket tough and he made big time throw And I just.

808
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: Think it'd be such a great story for a guy

809
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 2: who was able to bust and had so much struggles

810
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: early in his career and to rediscover himself and find

811
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: this kind of renaissance and go out and win a

812
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I think, what a script. And for a

813
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: guy who's a really good dude, and and people that

814
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: you know, some of the people.

815
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 4: Well yeah, and they and and again they echo that

816
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 4: in the Seattle locker room. So I don't think it

817
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 4: was just.

818
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: Uh, just tell me one of one here.

819
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, right in the in the Viking locker room, because

820
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 4: they said in the same thing, they said, we love Sam,

821
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 4: he's one of the guys.

822
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, yah. We trust him, We played for him,

823
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: he plays for us. That whole thing.

824
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 5: What I also like about Darnold is you know, after

825
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 5: after Rogers.

826
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 4: Won a game against was it it must have been

827
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 4: the Jets, and he said, yeah, it's kind of nice

828
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 4: to beat an organization that you didn't think you had

829
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 4: any football left. They tried to get Sam to say

830
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 4: something straight handed it on the stage, it was not

831
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 4: in other places. You know a lot of people doubt it.

832
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 4: He just said, I don't think about that. And maybe

833
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 4: he's he's just taking the high road. I suppose somewhere

834
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 4: deep inside of him he's thinking, well, it's kind of

835
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 4: surprised the Vikings didn't offer me a three year whatever

836
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 4: kind of a deal.

837
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: But they didn't, and that's all find and good.

838
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 4: But he he he took the high road completely and

839
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 4: didn't say anything about yeah, I showed them like there

840
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 4: was a revenge motive or chip on the shoulder.

841
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: And we heard none of that either. Last year and

842
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: when he first came here, I mean it was pretty

843
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 2: buttoned up. He didn't give a lot of long winded

844
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: answers because I think, you know, if you're in New

845
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: York and you have a tough media experience there, excuse me,

846
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: it's hard. He can you know, it can make it

847
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: kind of retreat. But as the seasons went on and

848
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: he was playing well and you got to know the

849
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: riders more, he became I think we saw more of

850
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: his personality. But did he say, huh do you think

851
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: of having now right? That stuff? It was always positive,

852
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 2: it was It was never boastful. It just he was

853
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: a genuine guy that, hey, I found a good situation,

854
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: I'm improving. I'm trying to, you know, be the best

855
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: for my teammates. So I really appreciated how he handled

856
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: it and how he's handling this because human nature would

857
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 2: be like, boy, people call me a bust and look

858
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: where I'm going to the super Bowl and exit none

859
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: of that.

860
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they and they and they all kept bringing

861
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 4: up there I'm seeing ghosting that might that Mike that

862
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 4: caught him the hot mic that caught him saying that.

863
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 5: The other side of the field's a good it's another

864
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 5: quart of it.

865
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 4: It's you know, Darnold was the one we let get away,

866
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 4: the guy on the other side of the fields of one.

867
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: By all accounts, they wanted.

868
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 4: Badly, and actually, if if if, if you believe the reports,

869
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 4: and I tend to the Vikings, made a pretty sweet

870
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 4: offer to try to get it to get a little

871
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 4: further because they wanted me and they want him in

872
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 4: a bad way.

873
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: And you can see why. He's the kid's got a

874
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: ton of town.

875
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

876
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 2: I remember I covered the Gopher game where they played

877
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: at North Carolina. His I guess I've been his senior

878
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: years last year there and he I left her thinking,

879
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 2: holy cow, this kid is incredible. He could third down.

880
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: It was like it felt like they were in third,

881
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: nine to third and fifteen all game long, and he

882
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: completed every pass. He was just so accurate. And you

883
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: could tell why he was gonna be a you know,

884
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: a high draft pick. And yeah, I think the Vikings,

885
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 2: you know, from everything here, they really really loved them

886
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: in the draft process and tried to move up. But

887
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: if you're New England, if you feel the same way you're,

888
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: you don't mess with it. You just take your guy

889
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: and believe that your evaluation is right. And he's gonna

890
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: be a franchise guy. And the NFL is so weird

891
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 2: because this year two for him, he's going to a

892
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 2: super Bowl and you sit here and think, man, he

893
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: might have seven of these. Yeah, and he may not

894
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: get back. That's the famous Marino story.

895
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know one Marino in the second year, and

896
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 4: he has said since then, he goes, I thought I'd

897
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 4: be going to all sorts of these and he never

898
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 4: got back there again. You know, all four teams were

899
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 4: pretty good offensively, and you know Nick's got injured.

900
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 5: The Steady story would have been a good right.

901
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 4: It looked like it might be unfolding on that second

902
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 4: possession when he throws the fifty yard strike and then

903
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 4: the touchdown pass and the up and then they decide

904
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 4: not to go for the field goal and they end

905
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 4: up losing a game in really bad weather. But I

906
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 4: think all teams were very talented offensively. Office you Seattle, La, Denver,

907
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 4: and New England, but all four teams were top ten

908
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 4: ranked defensively too. And the two head coaches are both

909
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 4: defensive minded coaches, rabel Right and McDonald. And again that's

910
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 4: because forever people have been saying defense is out in

911
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 4: the NFL. Now it's all and you know we do

912
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 4: have more offense down it's because fantasy football, and you

913
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 4: know that's what people want to see, and they protect

914
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 4: a quarterback more, but boy, defense still means a lot.

915
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 4: And you've got two coaches that really focus on defense.

916
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 4: At least that's their that's their claim to fame. They were,

917
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 4: they were defensive experts, so to speak, and they're both

918
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 4: those teams are in the big game.

919
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: Yeah you had that run whereas you know, they had

920
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: had early success. As young coach, he's offensive guy, and

921
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: everybody's like, wow, let's finding this Sean McVay right finding

922
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 2: the offensive guy, and yeah, that became the fashionable thing.

923
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: But you're right, like it's the you know tail as

924
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: all as time. You've got to play great defense to

925
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: win a championship, and you've got to win in the trenches.

926
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: And if you look at you watch the playoffs, I

927
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: think the quarterback play has shown up, but as much

928
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: as anything, you better be good in the trenches and

929
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: you've got to play elite defense because there's gonna there's

930
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: gonna be times where your offense doesn't have it and

931
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: your defense is gonna have to keep you in there,

932
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: or you may have a cold weather game where you know,

933
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: you got to create turnovers. So yeah, from the Viking's perspective,

934
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: getting Brian Flores to stay and re upping him, that's

935
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: a really really good head, you know, head start on

936
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: your offseason.

937
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 4: I think some of the thinking is, uh, Seattle probably

938
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 4: and they are the favorite right now because they just

939
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 4: feel like they'll that New England won't be able to

940
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 4: outscore yeah Seattle, which may be true. But the Rams

941
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 4: just put up twenty seven. Now that's with one of

942
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 4: the you know, a surefirefighter quarterback was one before. He's

943
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 4: really but still May's really good too, So I'm not

944
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 4: so sure that it's just like, well, Seattle's just gonna

945
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 4: outscore them, that that that New England defense is really

946
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 4: good too. And I think We're going to see a

947
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 4: really I hope. I mean, on paper, looks like it's

948
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 4: gonna be a great game, and I hope it is.

949
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 4: I don't like blowouts, especially in the big game, but

950
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 4: I think it should be a really close game.

951
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too. I mean, two great teams, well

952
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 2: well rounded teams, but it will be fascinating to see

953
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: how May handles it and how Donald. Yeah the pressure now.

954
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: Donald looked like a cool customer. Obviously a NFCY championship

955
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 2: game made to two, but super Bowl yeah, and all

956
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: that comes with that. How are you? I mean, it's

957
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: not like these are two veteran guys who've been I mean,

958
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: these are, you know, a young guy and a guy who's.

959
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 4: Well they and they talk about guys playing with house money,

960
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 4: like what's Donald got to lose he was giving up

961
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 4: on And I look at him now, but still, you know,

962
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 4: it's good until you get that, until you get to

963
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 4: that game and you're going and like we just said,

964
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 4: you may never get there against You're like, no, I

965
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 4: want that next step.

966
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: And I got to be honest with you.

967
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 4: As much as I like Donald, and I think you know,

968
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 4: those ghosts he was seen, I think he could star

969
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 4: in a sequel of Ghostbusters, because I think that's gone.

970
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 4: But still, if he has to get that ball late

971
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 4: in that game and drive down there, I'm still being going, God,

972
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 4: he's got twenty turnovers.

973
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 5: None of the last two games in the playoffs, he

974
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 5: hasn't turned the ball over.

975
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: Just don't want to. Could he turn that ball? You know,

976
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: you win that game, then it probably completely goes away, right,

977
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 2: And I think it it. I think the narrative got

978
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,479
Speaker 2: chiseled a lot away with how he played there because

979
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: there's no turnovers. He gainst a really good defense and

980
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: a tough situation where he had to make plays. It

981
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 2: wasn't like he was just you know, game engineer. No,

982
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 2: he had to make big No, he had to make

983
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: big show.

984
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 4: There was a stat that said all three of his

985
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 4: touchdowns passes he got hit on each one of them. Yeah,

986
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 4: he wasn't like he was just standing back there looking

987
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 4: and just bouncing around and go, oh, there's a guy

988
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 4: and throw it to him.

989
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 5: He had heavy pressure, was getting hit And.

990
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: I remember the one that was in the middle of

991
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 2: the end zone where he's backing up in the guy's

992
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: ass knees and he's kind of you know he has

993
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 2: a strong arm, so yeah, it'd be interesting to see

994
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: how they handle it. Two great defenses. I still think Seattle.

995
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 2: I just I think they're a better team. Yeah, I'm

996
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: gonna go with him. Hi and darn old Man, I'm

997
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: rooting for him.

998
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 4: Thanks again, y happy to see you. Thanks for coming in.

999
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Speaker 4: We I do appreciate that. Chips Coggins with a Minnesota

1000
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Speaker 4: Star Tribune fisher up Factory west Side. You can read

1001
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