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Speaker 1: From the fish filled Midwest lakes to the deep woods

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Speaker 1: of the North Upland prairies filled with pheasants, to the

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Speaker 1: whistling wings of duck ponds. This is Saturday Morning Fan Outdoors,

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Speaker 1: your show for hunting and fishing tips, topics and conversations.

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Speaker 1: You can also send us a question or opinion by

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Speaker 1: emailing us booth at kfean dot com. Here's your host,

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Speaker 1: the Fans, Captain Billy Hildebrand.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Fan Outdoors, faithful. Yes, good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: And it'sze you open your eyes if you're still in bed.

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Speaker 2: It's a definitely a two fisted coffee cup day. It is.

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Speaker 2: It is twenty nine degrees up on the North Metro

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Speaker 2: and white oh, and be careful if you're driving because

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Speaker 2: the roads are totally snow covered up there and it's slickery.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you do have a way you want,

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Speaker 2: but stay out of my yard, okay, just don't go

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Speaker 2: sliding into it. Good morning, Bob saying good morning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a freezing rain and some snow and some

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Speaker 2: Quite a welcome to the weekend. It is straight snow.

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Speaker 3: It was snow, yeah, it was rain and white bear

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Speaker 3: oh and then it developed a snow as they got

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Speaker 3: to the city and the temperature dropped, which was the

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Speaker 3: opposite of what I was expecting. Yeah, the temperature to

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Speaker 3: go up as they got came to the city, So yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's not There's trucks out and about moving, So thanks

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Speaker 2: I saw one. They must be moving your side. They

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Speaker 2: must have been. I saw like five. Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all on the north side, northeast side of

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Speaker 2: I guess, so they they're ignoring the side that it's

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Speaker 2: got a lot of snow. But they'll get there. And

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Speaker 2: I I told Brett when I came in, we sit

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Speaker 2: down shat him a couple of moments. And usually when

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Speaker 2: I leave home, I'll stand out in the driveways for

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Speaker 2: just a moment and look skyward. I was kind of

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Speaker 2: got the whole road to myself. And it was last

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Speaker 2: last Saturday. There's nobody out. It's like everybody's going for

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Speaker 2: coffee or going to meet go breakfast someplace else because

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Speaker 3: There was a lot of traffic on the road. What

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Speaker 3: do you think that's going on? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Oho, everybody's going to the airport. I don't Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: a fly. I'm not sure. Seventh day of March, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I've got on social media on my page it

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Speaker 2: did yesterday. Oh was it right? Yeah? Everything had melted. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: everything was pretty much the way it was supposed to be.

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Speaker 2: And but I was kind of surprised. I didn't expect that.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not sure. I haven't been up to the cabin.

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Speaker 2: I've been planning to go for the last week and.

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Speaker 3: I just haven't made it yet.

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Speaker 2: But it's I need to get up there.

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Speaker 3: Well, we got another marker of spring happening tonight.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. It is lose an hour night,

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Speaker 2: lose an hour night, gain some sunnight night. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we will assume as it's out. Was that assuming

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Speaker 3: gets out? Oh? That the sun is out? Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, I plan your adventure tomorrow. Maybe today

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Speaker 2: west wind they're forecasting ten to fifteen miles an hour,

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Speaker 2: And the sun will arrive at six forty setting at

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Speaker 2: after six o'clock, so it's six to six six. Oh wait,

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Speaker 2: it sets tonight, and like you said, it's a spring ahead.

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Speaker 3: Time, so tomorrow night it'll be after seven that the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I like it, except if you're trying to

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Speaker 2: get little ones in my Chad and his family went

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Speaker 2: It was quite a struggle, but they just got really

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Speaker 3: Anyway, did you buy your hunting license yet? Your fishing license?

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Speaker 2: I have not bought any licenses yet, have you? Yes?

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Speaker 2: I have all licensed out? You did? I did on

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Speaker 2: buy a duplicate, the plastic one. So did you buy

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Speaker 2: your turkey license? I did not yet. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to buy that until I decide when

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think Wisconsin is still I know they are.

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Speaker 2: They're still drawing lottery, lottery, yeah, statewide. And now Minnesota

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Speaker 2: it's over the counter. So I usually wait and determine

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Speaker 3: That's how warm the temperatures are. If it's cold, no,

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Speaker 3: we won't go yet. And if it's raining, no, I'm

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Speaker 2: You have the ability to be that way. I do.

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Speaker 2: And it's it doesn't My turkey days does not start

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Speaker 3: No, what so everything you can buy is a senior license?

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Speaker 3: Is everything senior? No, turkey isn't yeh, so just fishing.

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Speaker 3: And I don't even get now that it's not fishing either.

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Speaker 3: It's just a regular license. But what I don't have

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Speaker 2: There isn't a senior level for fishing license. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't buy it. If there is, I didn't know what.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there isn't. I just assumed. But then I I

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Speaker 2: don't have to buy really, yeah, yeah, but I still

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize you didn't have to buy that. No,

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Speaker 3: as a senior, you don't have to buy that.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think it's I don't know what the

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Speaker 2: any difference. I don't. I don't shoot any very much anyway.

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Speaker 2: I just kind of go out and carry a gun around.

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Speaker 2: Usually carry the right shells though, so if I if

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Speaker 2: it's a twelve gauge, I carry a twelve gauge through.

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Speaker 2: So I just say it. I understand that was a

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Speaker 2: shot at me. Well, and I've had three dogs at

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Speaker 2: but they're arriving again tomorrow. Oh and Chad has to

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Speaker 2: And that's okay. It's I talked to Chevy when he

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Speaker 2: Rex is the young one, and he's settling down too.

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Speaker 2: Although Rex is three, yes, yes, I think, yeah, he will.

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Speaker 2: and Brie they still get there. I've got one spot

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Speaker 2: to I've got one spot in my yard that when

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Speaker 2: Snap hatter litter of pups, they just tore it up.

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Speaker 2: I mean they just destroyed it. I got grass in

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Speaker 2: about our grass seed. Oh huhtyounds and it won't crow. Well,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't get much chance because they have decided when

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Speaker 2: playing in it. They just tear it all up. I

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Speaker 3: It took a day and it was all gone, just

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 3: That where you put the fence around when they were

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Speaker 2: Bit hot behind that. I did section off that part

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Speaker 2: But again I look at my phone and some of

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Speaker 2: a lot of work, but gosh, it was fun. Debby

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Speaker 2: looked at me last week with the three of them there, okay,

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Speaker 2: and it's pretty busy, she said, And I wanted to

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Speaker 2: keep the whole litter how many how So how old

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Speaker 2: is Chevy is nine? Nine? Okay, so the letter's nine

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Speaker 2: years old now. So Georgie is nine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And Dick's dog is nine Gassie, and Scout

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Speaker 2: Hey, this morning, we are going to Stan will join

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Speaker 2: because the Sports Show is taking place as we speak.

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Speaker 2: Good day for the Sports Show, by the way, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: kind of crummy, I'll get out there this morning. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but it's and I've always said the Sports Show is

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Speaker 2: kind of a right of passage to get to spring.

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Speaker 2: And you go and you can think water and then

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Speaker 2: it's fun to see all the newest and greatest and flashiest.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, go and check out Hummed Bird because in

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Speaker 2: Mencota Meankota the new troller motor is. I have not

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Speaker 2: used it, but it is, from what I understand, just dynamite.

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Speaker 2: And I think next week the bast Master Classic begin

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Speaker 3: H Yeah, and I know you won't want no, I

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Speaker 3: know I will.

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Speaker 2: I will be glued look watching some fighter andtion for

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Speaker 2: the best for him. Let's take our first pause of

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Speaker 2: the morning. We come back. We'll be joined by Andy

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Speaker 2: Peterson of Wellman Sports Marketing and he will join us

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Speaker 2: right here on Fan Outdoors. Hold on, fill your coffee cup.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back. We're back seventeen minutes after the

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Speaker 2: hour of six a m. On a fan outdoors Saturday morning.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for the day? I hope so, because

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Speaker 2: it's coming It looks like it's snowing out there. Still. Oh, goody, goody,

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Speaker 2: just my favorite thing in the whole wide world. You're

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Speaker 2: hanging on, Captain. You know, March is the snowiest month.

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Speaker 3: They say, oh, go away, there's hockey being I'm going

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Speaker 3: to get rid of them now, just fire Them's welcome

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Speaker 3: he doesn't mind snow, but he does like soft water.

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Speaker 3: And that's probably where he's going, uh to talk about

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Speaker 3: things used in soft water today, mister Andy Peterson of

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Speaker 3: and is it snowing at your house?

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Speaker 4: Good more and Billy good More and Bob And unfortunately

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Speaker 4: it is tired of it?

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Speaker 2: Good for you. It's they aren't that you're not quoting

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Speaker 4: Now, he got a bunch of rain last night and

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Speaker 2: Cool. What about the ben Quota Mencota's got a new

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Speaker 2: Now, if people are coming down, one of the questions

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Speaker 4: Andy, It's a very good question, Billy and number one,

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Speaker 2: Okay, now is it still a question? Is there question

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Speaker 2: Oh okay. With with the electronics, Andy, is it possible

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Speaker 4: It just depends that. We don't have anything against it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So we have authorized service centers that will fix everything.

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Speaker 4: So then Coode of motors dot com has that list

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Speaker 4: So the company is called Baits b A T E s.

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Speaker 2: Is that right, geez?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So we keep an eye on Billy that way.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, we have all the motors and all

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Speaker 4: the aisle. Foreign Brothers is down there, Joe's Sporting Goods

433
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 4: is down there. Into Marine, Nelson Marine or Rapid Marine

434
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 4: are selling boats and products can be had there. So

435
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 4: it's it's in my opinion. If you're in the market,

436
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 4: it's the best place to shop because you can talk

437
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 4: to every you got all the retailers under one roof,

438
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 4: and you can go do some negotiat And that's what

439
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 4: I'd recommend.

440
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: And I would highly recommend rather go down and talk

441
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: to somebody that knows of what they speak rather than

442
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: going into a big box store. And most of the

443
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: people are just part time and and probably have maybe

444
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: have used it, but maybe have not too, so that

445
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: makes a big difference.

446
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're we have pro staff and some factory people

447
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 4: down there today. Our competition has got pro staff and

448
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 4: factory people down there, so you can talk to you know,

449
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 4: every factory that you want in the electronics world for

450
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 4: the most part, and make up your decision there.

451
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: Wonderful, Andy, I thank you for your time, my friend,

452
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: and I think we're going to see you again pretty

453
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: soon too.

454
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got it. I'll be helping out the first yep.

455
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: Look looking forward to it, my friend, looking forward to it.

456
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: So all right, have a good show today and say

457
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: hi to the kids for me too, please.

458
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 4: Well, do you guys have a good day. Thanks very much.

459
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: That is Andy Peterson, Wellman Sports Marketing and I'll still

460
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: go back. All the stuff, the steering and everything, you

461
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: get to take that for granted by the trolling motors

462
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: in that. But that spot lock is just such. And

463
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: I don't have an anchor in my boat. You just

464
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: step on it and step on a button and it

465
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: keeps you right there. It's just a it's so nice.

466
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: There is there something you're hoping to add to your boat.

467
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: I don't water yea, oh, I'd like to thaw it

468
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: out kind of yes, okay.

469
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: But all I can get my boat out now because

470
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: the ice left the backyard gate, and that's been there.

471
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: I had about ten inch of ice up there, and

472
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: usually I have to wait for a long time to

473
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: get the gate open to get the boats out. In fact,

474
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: I was there yesterday and thinking I should really maybe

475
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: I'll grab hold of that and put it in the garage.

476
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: Maybe by the time we get home there'll be in

477
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: fresh snow drift. I good deal to gripes myself yourself.

478
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Speaker 3: We'll take a pause to me back with none other

479
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Speaker 3: than the mister Stan Tequila. Find him at nature smart

480
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Speaker 3: dot com.

481
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: We'll be right back.

482
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Speaker 5: Welcome back to Fan Outdoors, joined now by author, naturalist

483
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Speaker 5: and photographers Stan Tequila, whether it's in Minnesota, Alasko, or Africa,

484
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 5: he's always in search of all things wild and natural.

485
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 5: He may even know more about animals than they do themselves.

486
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: And you thought the cat knew the outdoors.

487
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Speaker 5: Here's fan favorite Stan Tequila on Fan Outdoors.

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Speaker 3: Stan.

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Speaker 2: Are they migrating south again yet? Good morning? Who's migrating?

490
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: The birds and everything?

491
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 6: No one look at one look at the snow, and

492
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 6: they're out of here. I'm sure we are actually seeing

493
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 6: quite a bit of migration activity going on though in

494
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 6: my own observations, a lot of redtail hawks are moving

495
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 6: back into the area, which this type of weather doesn't

496
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 6: really affect them that much.

497
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: And they are.

498
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 6: Also seen several redtails sitting together, which is a sign

499
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 6: that normally they you know, they're not really uh what

500
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 6: you would call them, uh lovey dovey, you know, yeah,

501
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 6: friendly to each other and so so we're definitely seeing

502
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 6: some of that activity. You can hear white breasted not

503
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 6: hatches giving their where we're we're uh spring call, chickenese

504
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 6: are doing their springtime call. So lots of things are happening.

505
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 6: This will be just a temporary setback for them.

506
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: But they have to eat. And you always talk to

507
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 3: us about too. They have to eat quite often, don't.

508
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah, well, depending on the species.

509
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, they're uh.

510
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 6: The good news is there's more daylight, so they have

511
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 6: more time to find that before night hits, because that's

512
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 6: always an issue in the you know, kind of the

513
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 6: deepest part of winter, when the days are so short.

514
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 6: Having to be able to find enough food during that

515
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 6: available amount of time is is often very challenging.

516
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: But so this is nothing, nothing new for them. Yeah.

517
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: I began seeing turkeys out and about and feeding last Tuesday,

518
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: and I saw four in the morning, and coming back

519
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: there are about a dozen in the same place. But there,

520
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: that's the first day, and I'm out most every day. Yes,

521
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: the first day I've seen them. I and my son

522
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: said the same thing. I don't know, but they've got

523
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: to be out down around you too, aren't they. Oh yeah,

524
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: they're they're out and about.

525
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 6: And of course this is not a species that will write,

526
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 6: you know, hibernate or anything.

527
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: They may lay low.

528
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 6: What they do is they stick to areas that have

529
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 6: a concentrated food source and they don't leave from there

530
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 6: very much. They also like to protected areas like wet

531
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 6: areas with cedar trees and such, so that they can

532
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 6: find some shelter. And but it's not you know, it's

533
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 6: not like they're going somewhere. It's not like they're taking

534
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 6: the next airplane out of here. You know, they're they're

535
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 6: doing they're doing pretty good. And the turkeys are really,

536
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 6: you know, as we've talked about many times in the past,

537
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 6: turkeys that really have done an exceptional job across Minnesota,

538
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 6: and they've they've expanded into areas we didn't think we're

539
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 6: even possible for them, and they are doing very well.

540
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: Sometimes I read things on social media that I just

541
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: I don't believe I read anymore. Oh yeah, but they

542
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 2: were statement yeah really, yeah, but they I was reading

543
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: something that talked about the wood ducks have returned for

544
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: the most part. Is that have you seen any of

545
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: that yet?

546
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 6: Well, Being that there's not much open water, it's pretty Uh.

547
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 6: I would I would say no, let's just answer it. No. Uh,

548
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 6: until there's open water, the wood ducks are not going

549
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 6: to be coming in now.

550
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: The moment there is open water, then they will be uh,

551
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 2: they will be moving in.

552
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 7: Uh.

553
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 6: If you're in an area like on a river. They're

554
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 6: gonna you're gonna have some you're gonna see some activity.

555
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 6: But that's a small percentage of the amount of ducks

556
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 6: that will be coming through, so you know it's starting. Also,

557
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 6: hooded mergansers. I'm seeing reports of hooded mergansers also, we're

558
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 6: coming back. So this is just the beginning, the first

559
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 6: few drips and drabs of a you know, the the

560
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 6: typhoon that's yet to come.

561
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 2: Well, then you should have your wood duck houses ready

562
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 2: to roll. Correct.

563
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 6: Oh, yes, Uh, March is the time where you should

564
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 6: be out there cleaning out your wood duck boxes and

565
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 6: getting uh you know, cleaning out the eggs from last year,

566
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 6: if there are any, you know, and putting in some

567
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 6: a fresh layer of wood chips, getting ready for him.

568
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 6: Doing any repairs too, because oftentimes the winter time is

569
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 6: pretty tough on these things. These boxes sit out in

570
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 6: the sun and the UV light breaks them down pretty quickly,

571
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 6: and uh, you know, squirrels move in and things like that,

572
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 6: so you gotta get on them and do it.

573
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: So this is the time.

574
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 6: To start cleaning out your wood duck boxes or putting

575
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 6: up new ones, or you know, repairing whatever whatever it

576
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 6: may be.

577
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: This bluebird houses. Is it time to close holes off?

578
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 6: I usually close I usually close up mine in April,

579
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 6: and so that's that's also coming up here too. And

580
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 6: as you go out looking for your bluebird boxes, you

581
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 6: gotta make sure if there's any mice that have moved in,

582
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 6: you got to be able to evict them. Then you

583
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 6: have to be able to dry out that box, because

584
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 6: I guarantee, if you have mice, you're gonna have a

585
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 6: wet box. It's going to be full of mouse peat

586
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 6: and uh, it's a it can be a real issue.

587
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 6: So that's why leaving your boxes open is helpful. Then

588
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 6: you don't have the mice coming in. And that's a

589
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 6: double edged sword though, because the if you if you

590
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 6: leave your boxes open, then they can't use the cavity

591
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 6: itself as a winter roosting spot, and which is very,

592
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 6: you know, kind of critically important. I just wrote an

593
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 6: article about uh cavities, natural cavities and you know, man

594
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 6: made cavities and how important they are in the ecosystem

595
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 6: to be able to provide not just not only just nesting,

596
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 6: but some roosting spots for overnight. Because roosting spots for

597
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 6: overnight are there's not a lot of them, and there

598
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 6: are many species who don't share.

599
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 2: You don't play well with others.

600
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 6: And so because you can get like Chickeney's and not

601
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 6: hatches can share a cavity, but when you're talking about

602
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 6: things like a downy woodpecker or a hairy woodpecker, they're

603
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 6: not going to tolerate anybody else in there with them.

604
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 6: So therefore, the the lack of natural cavities is really

605
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 6: a big deal.

606
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: Well, the lot of the cavities that that the cavity

607
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: nesting birds and critters use, I would think you attributed

608
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: to dead or dying trees, and there a lot of

609
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: them are taken out. Yeah, that's the thing.

610
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 6: You know, taking down dead trees for whatever reason is

611
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 6: usually more detrimental than helpful because unless of course it's

612
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 6: going to fall in your house or something damage somebody

613
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 6: else's property or something like that. But generally speaking, you

614
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 6: want to leave your snag standing so that they can

615
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 6: provide homes for other birds. And typically if you've got

616
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 6: one woodpecker nest inside of a tree, they tend to

617
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 6: come back to that same tree. They may not use

618
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 6: that same hole. They'll excavate another hole and then that

619
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 6: is a you know, you get two, three, four, or

620
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 6: five sometimes more nest cavities in one dead tree limb

621
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 6: or a tree trunk, and that is very valuable real estate.

622
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: It truly is. It's amazing when you get a pilliated

623
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: woodpecker working on a tree, the amount of ships they

624
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: can make in a winter time incredible. Yeah, yeah, they do.

625
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 6: And speaking of that, I was just out two days ago,

626
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 6: and I've got a pair of pilliated woodpeckers who are

627
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 6: really hanging around a lot and flying together and calling together,

628
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 6: landing on the same tree together. This is all signs

629
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 6: of mating of the pair, bond between the two. And

630
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 6: so these are the things you could look for when

631
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 6: you're out, because there's a lot you know, to be

632
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 6: able to see these things that you have to be

633
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 6: able to interpret it correctly. Then you can see that

634
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 6: there are all these signs of spring kind of all

635
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 6: around us right now.

636
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: Well, and do they bond for longer than a season?

637
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 6: Typically, these smaller birds, whether they be songbirds or woodpeckers

638
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 6: and things like that, are one season at a time.

639
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 6: Now they may mate with the same mate, you know,

640
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 6: more than once in different seasons, but typically they stick

641
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 6: together for one season and then switch. And a lot

642
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 6: of these birds also have fairly short lifespans, and so

643
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 6: they don't there's not a lot of time in there,

644
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 6: and so it's there's the pair bond is just as

645
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 6: wrong as some other you know species, but they are

646
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 6: the fidelity to each other is just not that high.

647
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 6: I was just finishing reading a study about extra pair

648
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 6: of copulations by females. This is a phenomenon that going

649
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Speaker 6: way back to Darwin's time. Darwin first suggested that female

650
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Speaker 6: bird species, their number of eggs are limited, and they

651
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 6: the eggs are So when I say eggs, I don't

652
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 6: mean the actual physical egg, I mean the the the ovum,

653
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Speaker 6: the you know, the the initial cytoblast, the little thing

654
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 6: that starts the egg. Those are so limited in the

655
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 6: female that the females are very protective of it and mating. Basically,

656
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 6: he was saying that female promiscuity is very rare because

657
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 6: of this limited egg source. Now compared with the males

658
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 6: whose males with you know, have kind of unlimited sperm ability,

659
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 6: they're much more promiscuous and much more kind of spread

660
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 6: it around type of thing. So that's that's been the

661
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 6: dogma since the eighteen hundreds that this is the you know,

662
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 6: how everybody's operated in the biological world these days. They're

663
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 6: showing that in the songbirds. These are the small uh

664
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Speaker 6: you know, colorful birds we oftentimes you know hearm in

665
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 6: the springtime like that all of them, one hundred percent

666
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 6: of all of these small songbirds, females go out and

667
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 6: solicit extra pair copulations from other males and really kind

668
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 6: of blowing the thought that these uh you know, that

669
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 6: the females cannot afford to be promiscuous, kind of blowing

670
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 6: that out of the water and just saying, no, that's

671
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 6: just simply not true. It was a dogma that was

672
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 6: started at one point and has been carried forth all

673
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 6: this time. And so now and now you can see

674
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 6: why I'm a boring person, because this is the stuff

675
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 6: I read. You know, it's just like you know, because

676
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 6: but it's absolutely fascinating.

677
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: To me that, you know, how they do it.

678
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 6: And then there's then there's scientists out there who are

679
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 6: studying this who are kind of you know, challenging, and

680
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 6: that's what science is. It's challenging the current thoughts and

681
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 6: challenging those ideas and trying to prove or disprove them.

682
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 6: And so it's a really an interesting thing when you

683
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 6: look at it. And it makes perfect sense too, because

684
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 6: when you look at the offspring of these songbirds, you know,

685
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 6: anywhere from thirty to forty fifty percent of them sometimes

686
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 6: are not genetically related to the female's partner. And they

687
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 6: often thought, well, this is you know, how's that possible?

688
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 6: Because being you know, females, she's not spposed to be promiscuous,

689
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 6: she's not supposed to be out.

690
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: And it turns out no, just the opposite. She's out

691
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 2: there looking for extra males to mate with.

692
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 3: Uh.

693
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: You know, obviously I'm gonna.

694
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 6: Make a joke here, you know, all in the name

695
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 6: of genetic diversity, you know, and you know, don't let

696
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 6: you don't let your girl get that excuse on you.

697
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: That's just there's so much going on.

698
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, street advice from Stan Tequila this morning.

699
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: There you go.

700
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Speaker 3: So do you think this uh so the Darwinism beliefs structured?

701
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 3: Do you think it was just misinterpreted or things have

702
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: changed as a compensation for decline in bird numbers of

703
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: their their strategy for reproduction has changed over time, you know,

704
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 3: I E.

705
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: Evolution.

706
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 6: Wow, a little early for that deep of a question,

707
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 6: isn't it. Yeah, yeah, Bob, I'm going to guess because

708
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 6: we we don't know. You can't prove. Back then, there

709
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 6: was no way of proving any of this stuff, and

710
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 6: nobody was, you know, because there was no genetics and

711
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 6: things like that. Uh So I would say that this

712
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 6: has been going on forever would be my interpretation of it.

713
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 6: And it was an assumption made by you know, the

714
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 6: early kind of you know, Darwin and his colleagues and

715
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 6: things like that was an early assumption based on the

716
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 6: knowledge that they had at that time, and based on

717
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 6: that knowledge, at that time it made perfect sense. But

718
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 6: now the knowledge has changed to the point where, you

719
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 6: you know, it's it seems very obvious that these females

720
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 6: are definitely going out and soliciting these extra pairer copulations.

721
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 6: And so therefore the dogma has to change to go

722
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 6: along with the new, you know, realization of what's going on.

723
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Speaker 2: How is the I was go ahead, go ahead, No,

724
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: I was just going to ask. I was just going

725
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: to make it. I was going to make another joke too,

726
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: but it's too early for that. I don't care. You

727
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 2: go right ahead, It's okay. How is the owl nesting

728
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: going with your camera on. Oh my gosh, thank you

729
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: for asking.

730
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 6: So for people who don't know, I'm live streaming a

731
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 6: great horn owl nest. And this great horn owl nest

732
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 6: has three eggs in it.

733
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Speaker 2: And when I.

734
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Speaker 6: Went to bed last night, everything was good, you know,

735
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 6: And now this morning looking at it, she it's all

736
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:38,959
Speaker 6: covered in snow again. And I would say any day now,

737
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 6: like today tomorrow, we're going to have our first chick hatch.

738
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Speaker 6: This has been going on for She laid her first

739
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 6: egg on February fourth, and here it is March seventh,

740
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 6: so it's been over a month. They're usually thirty to

741
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 6: thirty five days incubation. There was almost three days in between.

742
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 6: It was like two and a half days between the

743
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 6: first egg and the second egg, So that means it'll

744
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 6: be another two and a half days or so before

745
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 6: the second age catches. But I would say anytime now

746
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 6: these youngsters that start hatching. So people can go to

747
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 6: naturesmart dot com, scroll to the bottom of the page

748
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 6: and there'll be a link there to my YouTube channel,

749
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 6: or if you're just on YouTube, you can search at

750
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 6: nature smart Media to find this live feed, and it

751
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 6: is fascinating. First of all, there are people from around

752
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 6: the world who are in the chat who are also

753
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 6: watching this so and they're making comments, and there are

754
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 6: people from there's a gentleman from Australia who is watching

755
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 6: during our night, which is his day, so which is

756
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 6: kind of cool because you know, you wake up and

757
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 6: in the chat there's comments and notes about when they

758
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 6: all got off the nest and got back on, or

759
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 6: if the mail brought in food and things like that.

760
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 6: So it's really kind of an educational process too. You

761
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 6: can go through the chats and see all these cool

762
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 6: things and comments that are going on, and it's really

763
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 6: building a heck of a community of people watching this

764
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 6: this owl and I just find it absolutely fascinating to

765
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 6: do this. So if also, I just saw last night

766
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 6: that a second grade classroom, I can't remember where, they've

767
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 6: got it streaming in their classrooms, so they're all watching

768
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 6: this is it's just fun to be able to offer

769
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 6: something like this to bring communities together and to around

770
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 6: a cool, interesting kind of life teaching lessons and I'm

771
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 6: you know, I've I spent the whole career in environmental

772
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 6: education trying to educate people about it and this owl

773
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 6: live stream is reaching even further than I could possibly

774
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 6: have imagined imagined, and it is really touching a lot

775
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 6: of people. And I just love that because anytime anybody

776
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 6: can learn anything about nature, the more you know about it,

777
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 6: the more you're going to care about it, the more

778
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 6: you care about.

779
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: It, the better you're going to take care of it. Yeah,

780
00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 2: I totally agree with the flying schools. Does that have

781
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: a similar following? It's interesting.

782
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 6: So last night I was streaming the flying squirrel So

783
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 6: every night, well every night I remember or i'm able to,

784
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 6: I stream the flying Squirrels for about three or four hours,

785
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 6: and last night had quite a few viewers last night

786
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 6: also on the flying squirrels. And because they are so

787
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 6: much fun and such a such a joy to watch

788
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 6: them coming and going. So yes, that's still going on again.

789
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 6: You can find that at nature smart dot com. Go

790
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 6: down to the bottom and you'll see a link to

791
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 6: the YouTube channel for that too. And there's so much

792
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 6: going on with them because they are actually moving into

793
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 6: the breeding season also, and so you see a lot

794
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 6: of activity. I've been posting some short videos also on

795
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 6: social media that have like three and four flying squirrels

796
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 6: all sitting together, you know, shoulder to shoulder, all facing

797
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 6: the same direction, all eating together.

798
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: It's absolutely adorable to see.

799
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 6: So people should stop and take a look at at

800
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 6: my YouTube channel and uh yeah, no guarantees that you

801
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 6: might not get hooked on this owl, because it is

802
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 6: a lot of fun there there.

803
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 3: There are people joining as we talk. I'm watching the

804
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: owl live and the number of viewers, number of viewers

805
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 3: have doubled, and the owl just moved, so it's it's

806
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 3: pretty entertaining. And it does not appear to be snowing

807
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 3: wherethy owl is anymore.

808
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 2: It looks like it's done. Yeah.

809
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 6: There, So I'm gonna I guess I'll try to tune

810
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 6: in myself here, see if I can do. I have

811
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 6: the I have the live feed, the actual software that

812
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 6: runs all this, so I see that, but I don't

813
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 6: I can't see the uh the chats and things. Oh

814
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 6: they're there, Okay, now I can see that. I got

815
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 6: the chats.

816
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 3: It is remarkable how crisp that the clarity of your

817
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 3: camera is and when you when you look at it,

818
00:49:54,320 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 3: it's It's also amazing how camouflaged the owl's feathers are

819
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: and they match up to the tree bark.

820
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: It's just remarkable, isn't it. Mother Nature's pretty dark. Cool.

821
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's time for I have to take a second

822
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 6: look and it's like, wow, is she there or not?

823
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she blends in so well. Yeah, we have

824
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,479
Speaker 2: to take a pause. Can you hold with us? Let's

825
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 2: do it wonderful. Our guest is Stan Tequila'll find him

826
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 2: at naturesmart dot com and go to the bottom and

827
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 2: look for the owl live stream and the flying squirrel

828
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 2: live scream. Okay, bottom of naturesmart dot com. Will be

829
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 2: right back five minutes after the hour of seven am,

830
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 2: fan outdoor Saturday morning, coming to you until the eight

831
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: o'clock hour. Our guests, mister Stan Tequila, and we were

832
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: thoroughly enjoy him joining us, also because it gives us

833
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: a real connection and with a lot of people too,

834
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: with Mother Nature and what she's doing, what she's going.

835
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: I hope that you enjoy it also, Stan, what are

836
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 2: this time of year for yourself? Are you doing clerical things?

837
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: Are you out and about do well? I fine?

838
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 6: As you mentioned that during the commercial break, I'm editing

839
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 6: a new field guide that I'm coming out with called

840
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 6: the Mammals of the Midwest.

841
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: This is.

842
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Speaker 6: Like, like I said, a field guide that will cover

843
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 6: quite a large area. It'll be covering the Dakota's, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan,

844
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 6: as far east as Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, and

845
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 6: all the Nebraska all the way down to Oklahoma. So

846
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 6: it's quite a large exhaustive book on the mammals. This

847
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 6: is going to be all the mammals, everything from the

848
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 6: shrew to the moose and everything in between. And so

849
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 6: I'm editing that and that is scheduled for a spring release.

850
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 6: So the whips are cracking and I got to get

851
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 6: it done here. It is, I'm got to be going

852
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 6: with it here. But then also I'm next week I'm

853
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 6: leading another photo tour to Alaska for photographing ball eagles

854
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 6: and sea otters. So this is an opportunity for people

855
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 6: to go along and we go out into we go

856
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 6: out of Homer, Alaska, and we go out on a

857
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 6: boat and spend four days photographing just amazing settings for

858
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 6: with baal legals in it, with mountains and snow and

859
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 6: everything like that. So that's always a fun, adventurous trip.

860
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 6: And people can learn about my photo tours again by

861
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 6: going to nature smart Dot com and I have about

862
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 6: I don't know, six or eight a year that people

863
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 6: can sign up for and joined me out in the

864
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 6: wild and learn how to capture some great images.

865
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: So what are what's some things that you would recommend

866
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 2: people do or what are some of the things that

867
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: people would come away from the florider tour knowing better

868
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: than they did before.

869
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 6: Well, a lot of people, you know, are experiencing that

870
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 6: species for the first time. Okay, and uh, and just

871
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 6: like watching this owl on the on the YouTube on

872
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 6: YouTube channel, you when you observe, when you watch and

873
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 6: carefully kind of you know, note what's going on. You

874
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 6: learned so much about these for example, I mean I've

875
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 6: been doing this for you know, forty plus years and uh,

876
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 6: the first few days that the live feed was up

877
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 6: for the Greater for Owl, I'd learned two new vocalizations

878
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 6: that these birds make that I had never heard before,

879
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 6: didn't hadn't heard any reference to them before.

880
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: Uh. And and I was like, what's that sound? What

881
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 2: is that? You know? And that that intimate kind of

882
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 2: look and watching.

883
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 6: Is really you can't find that in the book, you know,

884
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 6: or a scientific paper or anything like that. Seeing it

885
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 6: for yourself also to me, when I experience it personally,

886
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 6: it cements that information into my head and I remember it.

887
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 6: Just hearing about it or just reading about it. Yeah,

888
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 6: it's okay. But when you when you experience it, and

889
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 6: so like these photo tours, when you're out there, you

890
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 6: get you get a really great firsthand look at these things.

891
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 6: We spend many many days, uh, you know, uh, interacting

892
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 6: with these animals, and it is really a great way

893
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 6: to learn.

894
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 2: Isn't there a danger to that? To stand assuming that

895
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: once you see something happened, assume it's always that way.

896
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 6: Oh good, that's a good point because I think we

897
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 6: do that a lot. We assume once you see one

898
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 6: thing that it's always like that. And uh, to try

899
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 6: to think of it as these animals is like people

900
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 6: that they each every each and every one of them

901
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 6: is an individual and they all have their different ways

902
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 6: of doing things. You can learn some generalities and how

903
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 6: they kind of you know, get through life. But there's

904
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 6: a well, they're all individuals. Some of them are going

905
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 6: to be a lot more whether it may be vocal

906
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 6: and maybe you know, more behaviors, more you know, uh,

907
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 6: less afraid of you or more afraid of you, or

908
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 6: something anything like that. And you've got to understand that

909
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 6: when you go into this, because if you assume certain

910
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 6: things like that, it's going to be a problem because

911
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 6: you don't expect certain things to happen, and then they

912
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 6: won't because you got to you got to remember that

913
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 6: there are always individual birds or animals and they all

914
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 6: do something completely different sometimes.

915
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 2: So the assumption that's how we got in trouble before

916
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: years ago, wasn't it that we would watch something and

917
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 2: then make that assumption that it was always to say.

918
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 6: Right exactly and to know that these these birds or

919
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 6: animals come to it with a set of experiences that

920
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 6: has influenced their way of doing things, and and so

921
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 6: each one of them is a reflection of their past

922
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 6: and what they've experienced in you know, how they've done

923
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 6: it in the past, and that that's also something you

924
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 6: need to keep in mind when you're out there interacting

925
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 6: with wildlife.

926
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 3: What about eagles they they should be Are are they

927
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 3: ready to begin hatching to the young?

928
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 2: Yes? So there are plenty.

929
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

930
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 6: The The eagles are interesting in that they don't all

931
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 6: fit into one neatly you know, set of rules. So

932
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 6: the ones who are have nests that are near open

933
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 6: water all year round, i e. Along the Mississippi or

934
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 6: the Minnesota River, you know, places that there's open water,

935
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 6: those are the ones who are nesting first. And then

936
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 6: as the ones who are further inland away from these

937
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 6: major river sources that you know, tend to you know,

938
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 6: all the other water freezes up, they're gonna be nesting later.

939
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 6: And so you got again it's there's a dynamic going

940
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 6: on there, and that dynamic is based on where they're at.

941
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 6: So and then there's age too. So as you know

942
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 6: with the ball legals, they typically don't become sexually mature

943
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 6: until they're about five or six years old. And so

944
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 6: you've got those years, you know, before that where the

945
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,479
Speaker 6: youngsters are not nesting, and so they're kind of hanging

946
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 6: out and getting in trouble and you know, sitting on

947
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 6: the street corner playing you know, shooting dice and things

948
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 6: like that. I suppose that's not something that kids do

949
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 6: anymore now, is it. And they and then when you

950
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 6: get those like six and seven and eight year olds

951
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 6: who are just starting to get into the breeding seaze

952
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 6: are breeding conditions. They're ones who also sometimes they don't

953
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 6: have a mate. Sometimes they've they fail right away because

954
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 6: their nest is not you know, built well enough.

955
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: And so then those guys.

956
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 6: Are interacting and moving around and not kind of squirreled

957
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 6: away doing their nesting activity. So you've got all these

958
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 6: different dynamics that are going on within a population of birds.

959
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 6: So for for example, so next week when we're in Alaska,

960
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 6: we'll we'll see hundreds and hundreds of eagles and they'll

961
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 6: be all most of them adults, and none of them

962
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 6: will be nesting. And here it will be mid March.

963
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 6: And but that's just how it is for that. Some

964
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 6: of them are nesting, some of them are not.

965
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 2: That's interesting.

966
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 3: We've got I'm watching the owl still and there's all

967
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 3: sorts of people I'm gonna call them snowbirds in Arizona

968
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 3: watching at the same time.

969
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 2: Phoenix mesa. And so this is a female owl.

970
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 3: Any idea how old this owl is and if it's

971
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 3: been to your nest multiple years?

972
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Great.

973
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 6: The female does one hundred percent of the incubation for

974
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 6: these eggs. And so that's the female sitting in the nest.

975
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 6: And I put up this. I built this nest platform.

976
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 6: So it's made out of two by sixes and it's

977
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 6: three feet by three feet. I built it five years ago,

978
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 6: and in the fall I put it up because I

979
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 6: had heard great horn owls around, and so I built

980
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 6: this platform very specifically for great horn owls, put it

981
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 6: up in a tree, and immediately that winter had a

982
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 6: female come in. I believe it's the same exact female.

983
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 6: And the reason why I believe that is that this

984
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:46,479
Speaker 6: female is very, very skittish. Anybody goes anywhere near her nest,

985
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 6: she dives off the nest and flies away. And that's unusual.

986
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 6: Most great horn owl of adult females just sit there

987
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 6: and look at you. They just sit on their nest

988
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,439
Speaker 6: and look at you, like what what do you want?

989
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 2: You know? But this one she's very different.

990
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 6: And so that first year she did that, and then

991
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 6: she had one chick, and then the second year they

992
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 6: came back again one chick. Third year they had two chicks.

993
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 6: Last year they had two chicks, and then this year

994
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 6: she has three eggs. So I'm assuming this is a

995
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 6: young female just started out about five years ago. This

996
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 6: is her fifth year nesting here, and so as she

997
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 6: sexually matures and gets better at this, she produces more

998
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 6: eggs and.

999
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 2: Is nesting slightly earlier. She's about a week earlier than

1000
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 2: she was last year.

1001
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 6: And so I think this is the same female because,

1002
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 6: like say, if I go anywhere near you know, within

1003
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 6: say three hundred yards of the nest, she's bolting, she's

1004
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 6: taken off. So I'm pretty sure it's the same female

1005
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 6: as we've had this last five times for five years.

1006
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 3: Okay, last questions before we have to go.

1007
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 2: I know, I know, jim Andy Crickets, I know.

1008
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 3: Oh way, see there you go. The average life.

1009
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 2: Expectancy of a great horned.

1010
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 6: Doll, oh easy, twenty years on these uh guys. Now,

1011
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 6: keep in mind that the rigors of nature are strong,

1012
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 6: and these birds, you know, there's a lot of things

1013
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 6: that they have to navigate, a lot of dangers they

1014
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 6: have to navigate. There's a lot of issues to trying

1015
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 6: to find food and other things. We don't think about.

1016
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 6: The amount of disease, the amount of uh parasites, you know,

1017
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 6: intestinal parasites and things like that that they pick up

1018
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 6: shortens their lives. So rarely do these birds live to

1019
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 6: you know, like you know, retirement age if you will.

1020
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 6: So they can, but they can easily go twenty in captivity.

1021
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 6: Obviously with good. You know a good doctor in healthcare.

1022
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 6: They can go much longer than that.

1023
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 2: Too, interesting stand safe, safe travels. Thank you. I was

1024
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 2: just gonna stay.

1025
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 6: A big shout out to all those people who are

1026
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 6: not watching from all over the place. Uh and on

1027
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 6: the YouTube channel. That's so cool to see. Thanks everybody.

1028
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, and again, safe travels and hopefully

1029
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 3: we can catch up in a couple of weeks.

1030
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 2: Sounds good. I'll get you a whole report from Alaska. Wonderful.

1031
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: Looking forward to that. Take care, Stan, Thank you, Thanks Stan.

1032
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 2: That's Stan Tequila nature smart dot com. You too can

1033
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 2: join the nest watching right along with.

1034
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 6: You.

1035
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: Don't need me, do you.

1036
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 3: Well? It just puffed up, just gone. It moved its

1037
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 3: head here a moment ago. Anyway, Tackle Terry is coming

1038
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 3: up next. Send a shout out to and from Alan.

1039
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 3: See if I hope the snow isn't inundating you, and

1040
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 3: I hope you're able to get out and shovel.

1041
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't shovel, just let it go. It'll go

1042
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 2: away sooner or later. Welcome in our next guest, mister

1043
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 2: Tackle Terry Tuma Tackle.

1044
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 3: Are you going to start fishing again now?

1045
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 2: Ice fishing.

1046
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 7: I think I will start. I already started putting some

1047
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 7: of the ice fishing gear away and getting ready for

1048
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 7: open water fishing. Oh, I think after tomorrow. They're talking

1049
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 7: sixty four degrees here, so I think our lakes are

1050
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 7: about and ours looks pretty black already.

1051
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 2: Well really, I was wondering.

1052
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, And I talked to a couple other angers.

1053
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 7: They said some of the leafs uh in Ario or

1054
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:42,959
Speaker 7: the Fairway are putting away from shore.

1055
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 2: Huh. Okay, I just asked a question. I just ask

1056
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: Bob if I thought people were done ice fishing in the.

1057
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 3: Metro, and what do you say they're fishing in the

1058
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 3: northeast Metro. There's there's still on Bald Eagle and White Bear.

1059
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 3: I saw, I saw I don't know, a dozen on

1060
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 3: each lake when I was driving home from work yesterday.

1061
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, yeah, I'm sure. You know. There's a big

1062
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 7: temperature change cent that we had rain besides here, so

1063
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 7: that really takes a big pull on these links. But

1064
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 7: I know around here there are basically no one fishing.

1065
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 7: You might see one or two individuals walking out if

1066
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 7: you can get on the ice. And I just talked

1067
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 7: to some of the other day too, and they said, well,

1068
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 7: you can use a plank, but you better be dying

1069
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 7: sure that that plank is going to be in a

1070
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 7: good spot when you come off the lake.

1071
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 2: Be still there.

1072
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 7: Yes, right, that's right, And that has happened.

1073
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 2: I know because I did it one time. That was

1074
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 2: my fault too.

1075
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 7: And I also fell off a plane too.

1076
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a rude awakening, Terry.

1077
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 7: I'm just telling Oh, man, I'll tell you that's that

1078
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 7: cold water shock is unbelievable.

1079
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 3: You dirty up, you dirty up the captain's boat and

1080
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 3: he makes you walk the plank.

1081
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 2: This is very true. You go right off that dock.

1082
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 7: Good, it's good acrobatics, that's right.

1083
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 2: But the somersault into the water anyway.

1084
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 3: Yes, with the putting away of ice fishing gear, do

1085
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 3: you do anything special?

1086
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 7: Yeah? I do. Bill. First of all, I back off

1087
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 7: the drag on the real tells I don't take out.

1088
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 7: You can remove the line, but there's no sense in

1089
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 7: replacing the line at this time of the year. And

1090
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 7: the other thing too, I store rocks in a vertical position.

1091
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 7: You know, so many people just lay them in a

1092
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 7: corner or lay them someplace, and you don't want to

1093
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 7: do that. And Berkeley has a vertical rod holders and

1094
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 7: they're easy to install. They support the rod by the

1095
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 7: handle itself, so that's a big other pus factor. And

1096
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 7: then two, I already just got done going through the tackle,

1097
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 7: getting rid of the old tackle that I haven't used

1098
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 7: for a couple of years, and then we'll replenish it

1099
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 7: with new tackle. So those are just some of the

1100
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 7: things we can do it. Then, of course, you know,

1101
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 7: charging up your batteries, cleaning out your fish house, and

1102
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,439
Speaker 7: when you store those batteries, you want to make sure

1103
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 7: if you have an opportunity in the summertime, I like

1104
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 7: what you're electronic, to recharge those batteries go completely dead.

1105
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 7: That's just some of the things that I personally do

1106
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 7: that I clean out the fish house.

1107
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 2: Of course, what about the aug Do you oil the

1108
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 2: blades on your augurs and things or just be sure

1109
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:24,479
Speaker 2: they're dry when you put them away?

1110
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 7: No, I don't, Bill, because I use the the UH.

1111
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 7: I just forgot the name of it, the UH that

1112
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 7: Klar has. Yeah, and there's no But if you haven't

1113
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 7: like a gas for regard you brought that up, you

1114
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 7: want to drain the gas. And there are thing too

1115
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 7: you want to make sure that your blades are sharp.

1116
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 7: And it's a good time frame to do it in

1117
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 7: the fall or do you need to replace the you

1118
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 7: know blades instead of way, I should say, waiting till

1119
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 7: the fall. Get it done now. It's a great transition

1120
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 7: time to put away your ice fishing items and and

1121
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 7: also prepare for open water time.

1122
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, some people are using their ice rods during

1123
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 2: open water, especially early in the season, don't they.

1124
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 7: Oh yes, yeah, And some of the real die hard

1125
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 7: fisherman bill use ice rods all summer long, right over

1126
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 7: the side of the boat. And you know, we so

1127
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 7: often think that the fish bite differently in the wintertime

1128
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 7: than they do in the summer. They do not. You

1129
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 7: still have that extremely finicky bite or that real light bite,

1130
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,479
Speaker 7: and that's where these ice fishing rods work very very well.

1131
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 7: It's not unusual to see fishcenario some of the ice

1132
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 7: fishermen rods are used in the summer tank.

1133
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 2: I know that Dave gens as this holy boat that

1134
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 2: he calls it. I'm not sure if he's still using that.

1135
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 2: He actually drilled holes in a boat and put the

1136
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 2: snout up there and they could fish ice fish right

1137
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 2: through the boat.

1138
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,439
Speaker 7: Oh, yes, yeah, and there's you know, there's a lot

1139
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 7: to be said about that. You know, so often we

1140
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 7: categorize ice fishing totally different in the summer fishing. I

1141
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 7: really don't think there's a whole lot different. Sure, it's

1142
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 7: going to be locationalized, you know, water temperatures, all those

1143
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 7: are going to ice cover are going to affect those fish,

1144
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 7: but the bite is still the same. Maybe many times

1145
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 7: you got cold water, they won't be quite so aggressive,

1146
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,799
Speaker 7: if you will, but you can also some very aggressive

1147
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 7: fish in wintertime.

1148
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 3: Think about the ice fishing, right, like what twenty years ago,

1149
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 3: people are using the green hornet.

1150
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:32,719
Speaker 2: You know, ice fishing name for a long time. Well

1151
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:33,759
Speaker 2: not that long.

1152
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 3: Though, really, I mean they've come a long ways really

1153
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 3: in a short amount of time.

1154
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 7: Oh, you're right, you know, I was just looking up

1155
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 7: to I don't know, I remember the heading sonar, some

1156
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 7: of those sonar baits, and they're still very, very available

1157
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 7: and they work extremely well in the river systems fishing

1158
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 7: lake trout. But just in the river system they were great.

1159
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 7: And if you have some deeper water in some of

1160
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 7: the lakes and you got a lot of always in it,

1161
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 7: that's a bait that we should never really put away.

1162
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of baits. I've often wondered that

1163
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,600
Speaker 2: terry because they fall out of favor with people. The

1164
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 2: brooks Reefer, for example, what.

1165
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 3: You get the brooks reefer? Oh, yeah, I've got to look,

1166
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 3: that's what. I didn't know what the sonar was either.

1167
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 3: I found that one. What a terry and the brooks reefer.

1168
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 3: Oh it looks like a thin fin. Oh okay, right,

1169
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1170
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 2: But what about rice?

1171
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 7: Sort of loose track. But well, we're always undated with

1172
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 7: new baits and new lures. Forget about the old ones.

1173
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 7: The old ones used to catch fish. There no reason

1174
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 7: why they won't catch fish now, but angry don't use

1175
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 7: them anymore.

1176
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 2: Well that's it. And you talk about fish being accustomed

1177
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 2: or conditioned. Maybe we should pull out some of those

1178
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,560
Speaker 2: old baits some of the people that still have, or

1179
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 2: go rade your grandm tackle box and take a look

1180
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 2: at it and see try some things that are brand

1181
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 2: new to you.

1182
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 7: Oh that's right, you know your thing too. A lot

1183
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 7: of your new lures are sort of offsets of the

1184
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 7: odors that out there. Yeah, maybe a little bit of

1185
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 7: different design or maybe, but the concept is pretty much

1186
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 7: still the same.

1187
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you're feeding, you're trying to trick them into

1188
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 2: eating something basically, that's it.

1189
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 7: That's exactly right. And fish you get conditioned, especially I'm

1190
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 7: honestly a pot of walleyes or a pot of crappies

1191
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,919
Speaker 7: or something. After you catch a few out of that school,

1192
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 7: they'll get conditioned to not biting. Especially if you just

1193
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 7: caught and released one. That fish is not going to

1194
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:44,759
Speaker 7: bite for a few weeks.

1195
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 2: Well, Terry, I've got so many like especially the four

1196
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 2: inch worm that was the productile worms. I think the

1197
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 2: flat tail worms black grape.

1198
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 3: And black and black blue.

1199
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, they got it right.

1200
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 7: But you know those those kind of those worms, you know,

1201
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 7: the plastic worms or you know, there's so many different

1202
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 7: names of those now. But even the uh, the lures

1203
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 7: that that real slow falling lureers like the General or whatever. Uh,

1204
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 7: those it's still you know, plastic, just that we're altering

1205
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,600
Speaker 7: the fall of the size of the the ticktos so

1206
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 7: they falls flower. It's just still the same concept.

1207
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well the jigworm. I used to live on a

1208
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 2: jig worm, and now they've got a couple.

1209
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, they know, they've got different names for basically the

1210
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 3: same thing.

1211
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly what The ned rig isn't too far from

1212
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 7: that's right. I mean it's different, but it's still almost

1213
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 7: the same context that you don't have a tail.

1214
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. It's kind of strange. How soon will

1215
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 2: you be on the water.

1216
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 7: Terry as soon as it opens up?

1217
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 2: Really okay? You don't wait for a little bit for

1218
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 2: it to settle down or some.

1219
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 7: Of the depending on the weather comfort. I do some

1220
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 7: short fishing, so that's going to be my first time casting,

1221
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 7: and so I'm going to definitely do that. I should

1222
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 7: mention too, Bill that I had a meeting with Berkeley

1223
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 7: the other day and we're talking about bait casters and

1224
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 7: spinning reels. How spinning reels have picked up so much

1225
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 7: momentum over bait casters. Even the best tournament anglers are

1226
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:25,839
Speaker 7: using spinning reels.

1227
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 2: Now, well, yeah, but it depends. It's pretty pretty specific

1228
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 2: as far as what you're doing with it too.

1229
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it is. But they have upgraded spinning reels

1230
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 7: so much. With you retrieve ratios, with the durability of them,

1231
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 7: the size of the school you cast along this, and

1232
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 7: you cast heavier lures I do. I have gravitated a

1233
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 7: lot to spinning reels, especially casting many crank baits and

1234
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 7: so forth.

1235
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 2: I'm the same way, Terry. I spent a lot more

1236
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 2: time on a spinning reel than I used to.

1237
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,799
Speaker 7: But but several years ago it was all basically almost

1238
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 7: all bait casters.

1239
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

1240
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 7: And I think the reason we use bait casters so

1241
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 7: much was for so we call it the power of retrieving,

1242
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 7: or the spinning reels now have upgraded so much. It's

1243
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 7: the same same thing, except we can cast a little

1244
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 7: bit further and make some backlash once in a while, Terry.

1245
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 2: For me, it's I'm not in such a rush to

1246
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 2: land the fish. It used to be if you get

1247
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,759
Speaker 2: a bite, man, they're coming in, they'll scoot right across

1248
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 2: the surface of the water to come in. But now

1249
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 2: I don't care near as much, and I catch more too,

1250
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 2: I lose fewer.

1251
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 7: Yes, I do the same thing, but I'm not in

1252
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 7: the great big hurry to bring him in. You know,

1253
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 7: there's a couple of concepts of why we should bring

1254
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 7: him in so fast. One is, uh, you know, we don't.

1255
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 7: They don't lose their strength, right, that will survive more.

1256
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 7: But I don't know if I really agree with that either.

1257
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 3: It's a fine line. I believed, area, I really I do.

1258
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 2: Two.

1259
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 7: Two, you know, if you just take good care of

1260
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 7: it when you bring it in the boat, you know,

1261
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 7: don't even out of that water very long. I help,

1262
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 7: but swim away. They're going to survive no matter what.

1263
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: And if you use it, like for myself, I use

1264
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 2: a four pound line almost exclusively, and if you're using

1265
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 2: light line, there's not an option to horese some of

1266
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 2: her drag them in real fast. But you get rid

1267
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 2: of bikes.

1268
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 7: But don't you feel too, you get a lot more

1269
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 7: fish when you're using it. Realize, Yes, twenty pound or

1270
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 7: fifteen or whatever.

1271
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 2: Definitely without a doubt.

1272
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree with the same way. Uther tough conditions,

1273
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:46,719
Speaker 7: I will generally go down to four pound test even

1274
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 7: for you know, walleye fishing or whatever species it may be.

1275
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 7: It is a big factor. One you get more natural

1276
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 7: movement with baits, and number two it's a little bit

1277
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 7: more invisible and there's a lot of plus factor. It's

1278
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 7: just that you have to have your drag adjusted correctly,

1279
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 7: and then too with the spinning reel even back we're

1280
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 7: catching those cities.

1281
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally agree, Terry, I do agree well, I

1282
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:18,480
Speaker 2: hope you can get on the water soon and it comes.

1283
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 7: From your tomorrow. We might be surprised, right.

1284
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 3: We could, We could. It'll make quite a difference.

1285
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,879
Speaker 7: And Bob, you have to take another drive in the

1286
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 7: evening because if there's two taking out in White Bear.

1287
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, if it's sixty degrees, things are going to break

1288
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 3: up pretty quickly.

1289
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, it won't take you. I don't even know if

1290
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 7: it's imagine it's going to be sunny. So things are

1291
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 7: going to change very rapidly. You know, the ice has

1292
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 7: got to in some of those area's got to be

1293
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 7: somewhat soft.

1294
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it gets away from the access or away

1295
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 2: from the places that people get on. That's kind of

1296
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 2: the kiss of death for ice too.

1297
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it really is. Yeah, we don't need to

1298
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 7: no fishes work falling through?

1299
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,759
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I agree, totally agree, Terry.

1300
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 2: All right, sir, Well, they have a great week and

1301
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 2: we'll hopefully catch up in a couple of weeks and

1302
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 2: you'll be in the boat fishing.

1303
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 7: Sounds great, guy, you have, both of you have a

1304
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 7: great week and talk English. It's time to consider putting

1305
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:14,480
Speaker 7: away ice fishing.

1306
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 2: There we go. Good word from tackle Tarry it.

1307
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 3: Just guaranteed like a snowstorm next Saturday.

1308
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 2: We could, We could, as much as I don't want it,

1309
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 2: but we could. We'll take a pause and be back

1310
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 2: with one more segment before we turn the reins over

1311
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 2: to end the zone with Tucker and Seneca, and we'll

1312
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 2: be right back.

1313
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1314
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 2: A couple of notes for you.

1315
01:16:58,680 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 4: One.

1316
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 2: Eric told me this week that one of his co

1317
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 2: workers had found a deer tick on her, So it's time.

1318
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 2: If you don't give your dogs tick meds, do it

1319
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 2: you want to. You don't want to get stuck with

1320
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 2: Alpha Girl. You got to explain what that is. Otherwise

1321
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 2: people are going to be scratching their head with you. Captain.

1322
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 2: Alpha Girl, you develop an allergy to red meat and

1323
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:41,640
Speaker 2: you cannot eat red meat. It may last matter of months,

1324
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 2: it may last a lifetime. You really don't know. But

1325
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 2: it's a tick disease called.

1326
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:54,480
Speaker 3: Alpha Girl alpha gal alpha gal alpha gal syndrome, so serious,

1327
01:17:54,520 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 3: potentially life threatening allergic reaction trigger by eating red meat

1328
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 3: caused by the lone star tip Alpha gal. They said

1329
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 3: it wasn't Alpha Girl is someone different that she's blond

1330
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 3: and about five seven.

1331
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 2: All cripes, all CPEs, Captain.

1332
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 3: Anyway, keep that off the computer studio.

1333
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 2: Anaplasmosis is another one you don't want. And Eric had

1334
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 2: his dog Asa had it, and it's a very arthritic condition.

1335
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what humans get from it, but I

1336
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 2: know your dog can get very sick. And so there's

1337
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 2: other tick diseases out there. And lime disease, yes, big,

1338
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 2: that was the biggest for both humans and animals. So

1339
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 2: give them tick meds and just do it on the

1340
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 2: first of every month. Yep. And you will be better

1341
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 2: off if you just lock it in. Yep. And it's

1342
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 2: just a it's just one pill and you just after.

1343
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 2: The dogs have no fuss about it. They'll it's just

1344
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 2: it's must have a great flavor. I haven't tried it,

1345
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 2: and you haven't. Have you eaten dog food before? I have?

1346
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 2: I imagined you have. Yes, I've eaten milk bones so many

1347
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 2: bush lights did that take? That was as a kid.

1348
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 2: That's how I got home for supper. Anyway, But I did.

1349
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 2: I carried in my pocket milk bones. Yep. Yeah, you

1350
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 2: still do. Yeah, I do. Actually, yeah, I carry treats

1351
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 2: for the dogs afield and my dogs are aware of this.

1352
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 2: They captain Billy Well in fact, my my breed dog.

1353
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,719
Speaker 2: She's in heat right now? Oh really, yes, and that's

1354
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 2: a kind of a sore subject around my house. So

1355
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 2: she is not spade, you know, she isn't are your

1356
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 2: dog spade? Gittch is.

1357
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 3: It took a while for me to decide, but Winter,

1358
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 3: who is just a year and a half, is not.

1359
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:31,600
Speaker 2: And she got she got. She came into heat on rooster.

1360
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 3: Road trip, which was wonderful, just terrific hunting with all

1361
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 3: kinds of other people's dogs, which I you know, obviously

1362
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 3: can't put her in the field when there's male dogs.

1363
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 3: And then you know, a different hotel every night with

1364
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 3: white bed sheets.

1365
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 2: That was great. Gap one of my favorite moments of

1366
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 2: all time. Yeah, that was fun. Yeah. But anyway, yeah,

1367
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 2: i've I did one time. I didn't realize is years

1368
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 2: and years ago. I didn't realize that my dog was

1369
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 2: in heat and got out there. I had buddy with

1370
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 2: me and had a male one of my males. Actually

1371
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 2: he had a male and a female. No, no, no, I

1372
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 2: had I had all the body had a male for

1373
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 2: I got you, okay.

1374
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:27,679
Speaker 3: And they hooked up and it wasn't a good thing anyway, No, no,

1375
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 3: we aborted the litter, but that was not a good

1376
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,560
Speaker 3: thing either, ignorance on my part.

1377
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 2: Anyway. So there's ticks are there. Ticks are bad, and

1378
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 2: you want to give your dog tick protection and the

1379
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 2: front line and things like that. That's it helps, but

1380
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 2: it's not the same as the regular tick meds you

1381
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 2: get from your vet. And if you're not, sir, go

1382
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:00,879
Speaker 2: see doctor Dennis Gallenberg Air Barrington to nel Kerber.

1383
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 3: You used the Symperica. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm using too,

1384
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 3: Provecta that's the other onevector.

1385
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and but I'm on Superica Symperica right now.

1386
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 2: And I just gave my dog the air tech pill

1387
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 2: two days ago actually because I hadn't been a field.

1388
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 2: And we'll be going now and take her out and

1389
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 2: begin walking as long as we can and get some exercise.

1390
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:32,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's well, until this morning, it was actually drying up. Yeah,

1391
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 3: from a dog walking perspective, relatively fast this spring. There's

1392
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 3: not a lot of moisture out there in the ground,

1393
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 3: which you know the farmers will be concerned about here

1394
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 3: coming up.

1395
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 2: But the frost is leaving the ground too, because I've

1396
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 2: had puddles in my yard that are gone now. The

1397
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 2: neighbor had some puddles and his were there day before

1398
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:01,719
Speaker 2: yesterday and they are gone. Now have you noticed wo Woodcock?

1399
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 4: I have not.

1400
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 3: I have been on the lookout, but I have not

1401
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 3: found any yet. I haven't been to any hardcore woodcock

1402
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 3: habitat spots yet. That might be today or tomorrow, but

1403
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 3: I think we're i'd say maybe a week early. Oh really, yeah,

1404
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 3: by Saint Patrick's Day. I can guarantee they'll be here.

1405
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 3: It's there here every year by Saint Patrick's Day. But

1406
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 3: I have found them necessarily. But you know, we only

1407
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 3: lost snow within the last four or five days and

1408
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 3: the ground's been frozed. I mean, then the ground needs

1409
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 3: to not be frozen for woodcock to be here, for

1410
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 3: them to find food, get food.

1411
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the other one of the other things we'll

1412
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 2: start talking about too. And we did last year talking

1413
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 2: to beginning or people interested in turkey on it, and

1414
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 2: we had a fair number of people that tried it

1415
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 2: for the first time that I heard from, and they

1416
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 2: had a blast.

1417
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 3: It is one of, if not the easiest type of

1418
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 3: hunting to get into if you've never hunted anything else before.

1419
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 3: I agree totally. You don't need a dog. You you know,

1420
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,719
Speaker 3: it's it's a turkey. It's not like if you shoot

1421
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 3: a deer trying to figure out how to gut it

1422
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 3: and process the deer. I mean, it's just a turkey.

1423
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 3: We've all chopped up chickens and different things. Well, I'm

1424
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 3: assuming people have chopped up a chicken before. It's just

1425
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 3: a big chicken. The problem is you.

1426
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 2: Got to carry it back to.

1427
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 3: There is that, Captain, Yes, there is that.

1428
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 2: So we got to start turkey talk next weekend. Yeah,

1429
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,680
Speaker 2: I think so, okay, I think it'd be it will

1430
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 2: be behoove us, especially now that some turkeys. You're seeing

1431
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:54,839
Speaker 2: them and and Eric said that he heard them gobbling out.

1432
01:24:54,720 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 3: It is remarkable how you don't see them virtually all winter. Yeah,

1433
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 3: and then boom the snow melts in there in the field,

1434
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 3: grouped up, and then the next day there's a dozen more,

1435
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 3: and then there's like super fox building this time of year.

1436
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 2: It was amazing to me Tuesday when I went by

1437
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 2: and the four were out, came back in the same

1438
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 2: place and it was a dozen fifteen that were in

1439
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 2: the same spot. And if it's sixty tomorrow, they'll be

1440
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 2: thirty six of them out together. There'll be a bunch.

1441
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 2: There'll be a bunch. But what turkey hunting is is

1442
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 2: about the only thing you can hunt other than snow geese.

1443
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 2: But the turkey hunt in the spring. Yes, but the benefits,

1444
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 2: the side benefits are incredible because you're seeing pheasants, you're

1445
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 2: seeing geese come over if you're just sitting there very quietly,

1446
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 2: which is difficult for you to do. True.

1447
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you see mother nature come to life in

1448
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 3: the spring, from cranes to drumming grouse to jack in

1449
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 3: the pulpit popping all kinds of you know, the emergence

1450
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 3: of greenery, popping the buds, the sunrise in the morning.

1451
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 2: But no, I don't get out that early. Uh, you're tired, mate, guys.

1452
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,759
Speaker 2: But one of the things that I was so amazed

1453
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 2: with when I noticed turkey hunting, and I didn't notice

1454
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 2: it before, was when you're sitting so quietly, the amount

1455
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 2: of noise that a bird, grouse or pheasant will make

1456
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 2: going through leaves. Yeah, or tree frogs yeah, you know.

1457
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 3: I mean I can remember like trying to take a

1458
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 3: nap and the tree frogs are keeping me away, but

1459
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 3: they are like if you're sitting in the woods and

1460
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 3: what the heck is that day? And you think looking

1461
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 3: for birds and then you figure out that that's not

1462
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 3: a bird. Yeah, amphibian where the squirrel's coming around and

1463
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 3: the chattering that goes on on the woods, it's simply amazing.

1464
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,640
Speaker 2: It's really cool. And then all of a sudden you

1465
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 2: get a turkey gobbling nearby, and yeah, it's the excitement

1466
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 2: when they come if you're using decoys, and you don't

1467
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 2: have to, but if you're using a decoy, when they

1468
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 2: come in, and sometimes they'll just come charging in and

1469
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 2: ready to fight. Sometimes they'll just kind of hang back,

1470
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 2: or you'll hear them gobble and you can call back,

1471
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 2: and it's just a stupid as call. But it's things

1472
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 2: you can practice. You might be better off going outside

1473
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,560
Speaker 2: for a bit to practice, because whoever's in the household

1474
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 2: will go wackle.

1475
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 3: You don't still have the decoy you made, do you know?

1476
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 3: I'd like, why are you replicating that? I'd like to

1477
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 3: I'd like a photo of your your original Billy Hildebrand decoy.

1478
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,799
Speaker 3: That was it was pretty realistic until it rained.

1479
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:14,879
Speaker 2: That was. That was one thing I hadn't taken into account.

1480
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 2: The rain. It was pretty looking in the rain. When

1481
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 2: it was wet, wings drooped down. Oh it was awful.

1482
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 2: And it was heavy. Oh my goodness, gracious, it was

1483
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 2: as heavy as a dog bout carrying a bird out.

1484
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 2: So you got turkeys of the brain.

1485
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 3: When when, uh, when should Brett and I get braced

1486
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 3: for your departure?

1487
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,719
Speaker 2: No, just the cabin. I welcome it at this point.

1488
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 2: I mean golf seasons around the corner. Yeah, there you go.

1489
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 3: Wow, you've changed your tune. I know, I'm I don't

1490
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 3: even know you have changed teams. I'm on the captain's team.

1491
01:28:57,040 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 3: Now are you going to move into the cabin with now?

1492
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 2: Around there? To them within two miles? All right, we

1493
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 2: can talk. He does have another bedroom. Yeah, how's the

1494
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 2: internet situation? Rock solid? We're really talking. Rock solid music

1495
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,679
Speaker 2: is playing, which means it's time for us to stop

1496
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 2: talking and turn the microphones over to end the zone

1497
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 2: with Davy Sinecon and Trent Tucker. But I want to

1498
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 2: say thank you to you. Thanks to Andy Peterson for

1499
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 2: joining us. Go down to seat him at the sports

1500
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 2: show today. You are right, Hey, you're gonna make it.

1501
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 3: Thanks to stand Ta Kila.

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Speaker 2: I don't know tackle Terry, but thank you to Brett

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Speaker 2: blakemore thanks to Bob Saint Pierre. My friend Brett is

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Speaker 2: our executive producer. I'm Billy Hildebrand saying, have a fabulous weekend,

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Speaker 2: go down to the Sports show, enjoy it and think summer.

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Speaker 2: Okay till next Saturday. I'll leave you with two thoughts here.

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Speaker 2: They are Tata