Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American idiot?
Speaker 2: Well, well, well here we are.
Speaker 3: It's sterling and Donna Deve for Scott Sloan on a wet,
Speaker 3: windy Friday, unusually weather whip lash kind of weekend. Almost
Speaker 3: you can almost see and feel the weekend.
Speaker 1: Donna, Well, it's warm.
Speaker 4: That's really all I care about at this point. It's
Speaker 4: sixty two right now.
Speaker 3: Holy small, it's bewildering. Up is down, Down is up?
Speaker 3: A light as dark and dark as well light. There's
Speaker 3: a lot going on. We have a lot of ground
Speaker 3: to cover in a short amount of time. The light stuff,
Speaker 3: the good stuff, the fun into the weekend. Kevin Carr,
Speaker 3: fat guys at the movies, sober, get go and substack
Speaker 3: about ten thirty five, waiting on U see health. We
Speaker 3: should have a doctor hopefully depending on availability. Talking about
Speaker 3: issues with the new dietary guidelines and some other stuff
Speaker 3: going on too. But the elephant in the room which
Speaker 3: has been all over the news the last couple of
Speaker 3: days is the thing in Minneapolis and the shooting with
Speaker 3: the woman who was in the suv. In the engagement
Speaker 3: with ICE and other federal authorities as they were working
Speaker 3: to handle immigration stuff. There and protests continuing. It's an
Speaker 3: ugly circumstance. I guess the question is because I think
Speaker 3: most everyone, even if you've been trying to avoid the
Speaker 3: video or just the heaviness of the conversation and what's
Speaker 3: going on, most people have seen the video and have
Speaker 3: an opinion of how that shooting went down.
Speaker 2: Legitimately, maybe not so well.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, as anything else in this country right now,
Speaker 4: we're super divided in what looks to be either the
Speaker 4: renee Nicole Good running down an ICE agent or running
Speaker 4: away from that's depending on I mean, there's been probably
Speaker 4: twenty different angles. They've slowed it down, they've sped it up.
Speaker 4: There's a ton of different angles for the video, and
Speaker 4: everybody seems to have a different opinion on it.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're seems.
Speaker 4: Pro Ice pro Trump pro, then you're going to see
Speaker 4: that this woman was trying to run down the agent.
Speaker 4: If you're not, possibly you're looking at, uh, the woman
Speaker 4: who was trying to flee as the ICE agents approached
Speaker 4: her car and trying to open up her car door. So,
Speaker 4: I mean, everybody has an angle and what they see
Speaker 4: about it. It's tragic no matter what happened.
Speaker 1: No matter what you view.
Speaker 4: As this, it is an awful situation and I really
Speaker 4: hope that this kind of violence doesn't continue.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a couple things. First, I'm surprised we haven't
Speaker 3: in a way seen more of it. And you know
Speaker 3: what's bewildering, and you said it at the outset of
Speaker 3: your comments is that you can have people look at
Speaker 3: the same exact video at the same time, with the
Speaker 3: exact same angles. And as you mentioned, affiliation of party
Speaker 3: or support for some authority is somehow how one assesses
Speaker 3: a video. And I try to separate myself from any
Speaker 3: position other than looking at the facts of what is
Speaker 3: in front of me, and that seems to not necessarily.
Speaker 2: Be possible for a whole lot of people.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, there's going to always be your perceptionist reality.
Speaker 1: We say this all the time.
Speaker 4: And if you think you know that that these ICE
Speaker 4: agents are shouldn't be on this on the city our
Speaker 4: city streets with weaponry like that, or whether you view
Speaker 4: them as protecting, uh, the citizens from illegal immigrants that
Speaker 4: are dangerous drug dealing and what's the you know, they're
Speaker 4: crime written, they're there to protect absolutely.
Speaker 1: There has been talk.
Speaker 4: About how the ICE agents there, They're training has been limited,
Speaker 4: and the budget is exploded in the hundreds of billions
Speaker 4: of dollars to put these ice agents on the streets.
Speaker 4: So you've got these ice agents that aren't as trained
Speaker 4: as military and or our officers. And then they've got
Speaker 4: this weaponry that you know, is anything that you've seen
Speaker 4: in war, almost on our city streets. It's a little
Speaker 4: it can get a little sticky and tricky.
Speaker 3: What's interesting is that here in commentary, whether it's Fox
Speaker 3: News or ABC or CBS. And I've spent too much
Speaker 3: time in the last couple of days observing all of
Speaker 3: it and watching video and social media and everything else,
Speaker 3: and I try to start from just objectivity, but hearing
Speaker 3: police trainers, law enforcement, and I don't know how it
Speaker 3: falls if it's a party line thing or otherwise. But
Speaker 3: former one of the former heads of Homeland Security, another
Speaker 3: one involved in Justice Department in the past administrations, said
Speaker 3: the first shot that that officer fired was justifiable, arguably,
Speaker 3: and then the other two is what he would have
Speaker 3: to answer for because at that point the threat had stopped.
Speaker 3: And then you know the acceleration, which I think was
Speaker 3: after she had already been shot in the head. But
Speaker 3: there's a couple of things there. If you're in the
Speaker 3: heat of the moment and you're in fear of your life,
Speaker 3: you know, And I'm no police, although I have friends
Speaker 3: that are and learn how to shoot. Actually one of
Speaker 3: the county Sheriff's gun ranges years ago, the guy did
Speaker 3: a detail work that ran that and what I was
Speaker 3: taught is that you shoot until the threat has stopped.
Speaker 3: But the other thing that has come up is the
Speaker 3: fact that the discussion has been do you put yourself
Speaker 3: in harm's way by being in front of or behind
Speaker 3: a vehicle that could be moving and targeting you, or
Speaker 3: do you stay on the side where you can sort
Speaker 3: of you know, look at that and you can look
Speaker 3: at it in just arguably all the way around. So
Speaker 3: let's open up the phones, because I think it's a
Speaker 3: difficult thing for a lot of people. It's a stomach
Speaker 3: turning situation. You know, you can support the police and
Speaker 3: still say that maybe that was a fishy shooting. You
Speaker 3: can say it was a justified shooting and still support
Speaker 3: you know, civil protests that are non violent, that are
Speaker 3: exercising rights and so forth. One of the other things that.
Speaker 1: It's really.
Speaker 3: In a weird thing, and it just came out with
Speaker 3: the court decision is saying that these federal authorities dealing
Speaker 3: with immigration, border control, ICE, et cetera, in communities around
Speaker 3: the country, as they go to enforce and remove people
Speaker 3: that are here illegally, apparently now have been given the
Speaker 3: okay to not have to visually identify themselves, that they
Speaker 3: can continue to wear a mask. And I just have
Speaker 3: to ask this question of just anyone, with all the
Speaker 3: talk of the violence and the the unrest and you know,
Speaker 3: people from foreign lands and the dangers that we all
Speaker 3: apparently are navigating on a regular basis, that I don't
Speaker 3: really feel unsafe at all, which is really unsettling in
Speaker 3: this I really wonder if someone rolls up in you
Speaker 3: in your neighborhood, blinking lights on a vehicle or otherwise,
Speaker 3: but no other insignias and no identifying, you know, a
Speaker 3: badge or identification on uniform or on that vest or
Speaker 3: on that hat, and they're coming up on you. Do
Speaker 3: you try to flee? Do you try to stay? Do
Speaker 3: you trust that it's law enforcement?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 3: Why are they not working in tandem with local authorities also?
Speaker 3: And in some cases they are, But it becomes a
Speaker 3: very challenging thing for those people on the street doing
Speaker 3: the job and people in the community who are just
Speaker 3: trying to live aside from anything that may be interfering
Speaker 3: with the the enforcement that's going.
Speaker 2: On or otherwise.
Speaker 3: And you know, and the whole other thing will get
Speaker 3: into later, which is here locally, Donna, which is the
Speaker 3: talk allegedly of apparently conversation of settling with those family
Speaker 3: that lost their kid in an officer involved shooting after
Speaker 3: they hoisted a car allegedly and had that firearm. So
Speaker 3: let's take some calls, give you a chance. Hey, that's Friday,
Speaker 3: seven eight hundred, the big one, Sterling and Donnade and
Speaker 3: for Scott Sloan, let's get to uh Mark firt and
Speaker 3: we've got Bob first, then Mark and room for you
Speaker 3: on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: How you doing, Bob? Hey, good morning?
Speaker 6: How are you?
Speaker 2: I think I'm all right? What's up?
Speaker 5: Good?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 7: This Minneapolis thing, you know, like you said, we all
Speaker 7: got opinions. I just think a lot of you have
Speaker 7: to look back and see the pattern of this uh
Speaker 7: this woman and she was like many you know, she'd
Speaker 7: been supposedly following the ice people around throughout the day
Speaker 7: carassing them, which that's everybody's right, you know, but was
Speaker 7: it justified.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's a fifty deal. I would I would
Speaker 7: probably agree and say yes, uh yes. I am a
Speaker 7: Trump supporter. He's trying to get these illegals out of
Speaker 7: the country, you know, to save all of US taxpayers
Speaker 7: money and for whatever reason. Uh, there's many in this
Speaker 7: country that want to support that type of activity, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and we're the we're the ones.
Speaker 7: That ultimately pay for It's the citizens of the United
Speaker 7: States with with tax increases. Minnesota, Somalia's I worked with
Speaker 7: Somalia's and uh years ago, I kind of I kind
Speaker 7: of wondered my own you know, the company dealt airlines,
Speaker 7: they support them big time, and they they had more
Speaker 7: rights than the US workers. It's it's insane. But I'll
Speaker 7: listen to your comments. I have a great day.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks Bob.
Speaker 3: I don't know how anybody has more rights than anybody
Speaker 3: else here.
Speaker 4: But well, this all you thing in Minnesota is fraud.
Speaker 4: I mean it's well, yeah, it's horrible, inexcusable. And what
Speaker 4: Bob said too, I don't think anybody wants criminals rolling
Speaker 4: roaming streets criminals except for the criminals maybe, but I mean, yeah, so,
Speaker 4: I mean I'm all for cleaning up the streets and
Speaker 4: getting criminals off too.
Speaker 1: Should she be taunting ice agents? Should know? Can there
Speaker 1: be peaceful protests? Yes?
Speaker 3: Should she have been shot in the head three times
Speaker 3: again trained to stop the threat? But the question is
Speaker 3: was he in harm's way at the time? And that's
Speaker 3: for the investigation, and you know, and heat of the moment,
Speaker 3: instantaneous situation. I've never had a traumatic experience in the
Speaker 3: moment and wonder about my political affiliation or otherwise. If
Speaker 3: I'm afraid for my life, I'm afraid for my life,
Speaker 3: and I'm going to defend myself. If I'm looking to
Speaker 3: go to the grocery store and get, you know, some
Speaker 3: Greater's Black raspberry chip ice cream, I'm going to go.
Speaker 2: I've never gone. What political leanings do to you?
Speaker 5: Have?
Speaker 3: I like somessert right now? But apparently that is the
Speaker 3: angle in the view by which a lot of people
Speaker 3: navigate everyday life, which is pretty interesting. Mark, you're with
Speaker 3: Stirling and Donna Dee and for Scott Sloan, what about
Speaker 3: this Minneapolis thing? We got to Fred and James and
Speaker 3: others up after you.
Speaker 8: Hey, yeah, thank you for taking my call. I agree
Speaker 8: with Bob, I agree with all the things that you
Speaker 8: have said, but I want to add two words to
Speaker 8: this discussion. Ashley Babbitt. Ashley Babbitt was a peaceful protester
Speaker 8: on January sixth, two thousand and twenty one, and she
Speaker 8: was behind a door and she was shot through that door.
Speaker 8: Here's an Army veteran who was shot through this door,
Speaker 8: and the left because they didn't like that protest. Okay,
Speaker 8: that and we're going to know the name of the
Speaker 8: police officer who killed this lady. And Minnie, what was
Speaker 8: the name of the police officer who killed Ashley Babbit
Speaker 8: on January sixth, twenty twenty one?
Speaker 3: Are you asking me? I don't know that name right
Speaker 3: off the top of my head. I'd have to look
Speaker 3: at it. But here's my question. Identifying the shooter in
Speaker 3: this situation. I don't know necessarily is the basis or
Speaker 3: the point of the discussion. But I get what you're
Speaker 3: saying to a point. The only reason we know is
Speaker 3: I understand it in Minneapolis as a result of it
Speaker 3: is because he had already been in an engagement where
Speaker 3: he was dragged for some period of time and had
Speaker 3: that arm ripped open to some extent. I think it
Speaker 3: was like thirty stitches or something like that. The babbit
Speaker 3: thing's a different thing also because they were illegally inside
Speaker 3: the capitol and were basically under assault trying to protect lawmakers.
Speaker 3: So I think there are some that would argue that
Speaker 3: perhaps more force could have been and maybe should have
Speaker 3: been used January sixth, compared to obviously a different circumstance
Speaker 3: entirely on the streets of Minneapolis. But I get what
Speaker 3: you're saying, Maury. I appreciate the call of Fred. You're
Speaker 3: with Sterling and Donnade and for Scott Sloan on seven
Speaker 3: hundred wlw HA.
Speaker 9: Yes Sling, Good morning to you, sir, morning.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 9: I just think that we need to adhere to authority.
Speaker 9: If you run from a police officer, what's going to
Speaker 9: happen to you? But more likely is is you're gonna
Speaker 9: get shot. If you're running from a police officer, from authority,
Speaker 9: you're gonna get shot. The country doing the hell and
Speaker 9: the hand baskets.
Speaker 3: Are aren't there like certain parameters though, if you're running
Speaker 3: from police, if you're considered a threat in different authorities,
Speaker 3: different jurisdictions, different training. But generally, if someone's in a
Speaker 3: vehicle and they're not targeting anyone else, as I understand it,
Speaker 3: in most cases, the idea is they'll get them later,
Speaker 3: they've got a plate, they can pull them over, et cetera.
Speaker 3: In that circumstance, just fleeing from police without there being
Speaker 3: an immediate threat for life in survival or serious harm
Speaker 3: is not quite the same as just fleeing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is a little bit of a
Speaker 4: different situation, Fred, but I agree with you that if
Speaker 4: you are running from police, you should adhere to authority.
Speaker 4: If someone gets pulled over, you answer the questions the
Speaker 4: officer is asking you. This is a completely different situation.
Speaker 3: I think it's a horrible one, it really is, and
Speaker 3: you put those officers that are on the street trying
Speaker 3: to do their job in a bad spot. What I'm
Speaker 3: really concerned about is this moves ahead because it's ratcheted up.
Speaker 3: It's not ratcheting down. It's not a de escalation at us. Still,
Speaker 3: what I'm concerned about as well, and I think there
Speaker 3: are some people who probably are pretty geeked up and
Speaker 3: excited and may be happy about the fact that things
Speaker 3: are a little bit more hostile on our streets and
Speaker 3: in our communities, which is an unfortunate circumstance.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 3: We would hope that we'd be in a better place
Speaker 3: rather than a worse place overall. The other thing that's
Speaker 3: come up, and a lot of people question, is without
Speaker 3: reviewing the evidence and seeing exactly what had happened, we
Speaker 3: had the president, had the Vice president, who there's been
Speaker 3: some conflict about assessment of the situation. There had a
Speaker 3: homeland security as well as she was making her tour,
Speaker 3: and then then up I think she got to Minneapolis too,
Speaker 3: that they were already condemning, marginalizing, and somehow framing this
Speaker 3: in one way without actually knowing and in fact misstating
Speaker 3: what the video had shown. Regardless of the angle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe Christine nom said she was a domestic
Speaker 4: terrorist and President Trump said the officer in question was
Speaker 4: in the hospital dealing with injuries from this. So both
Speaker 4: of those things like didn't feel good, didn't weigh in
Speaker 4: with the community either.
Speaker 3: But I mean, it's a real serious situation. I would
Speaker 3: hope that most people reasonable and rational would say in
Speaker 3: the middle of a circumstance around you where there's a
Speaker 3: police activity taking place and they're directing you. One would
Speaker 3: hope that they're trying to direct you to safety or
Speaker 3: out of harms way, unless you're the target, and that
Speaker 3: you're going to pay attention to what they say and
Speaker 3: try to avoid the circumstance at all costs to not
Speaker 3: harm law enforcement or interfere with what their official activities are.
Speaker 3: And too, because you want to protect your ass. I mean,
Speaker 3: you don't want me to be bad to happen to
Speaker 3: you either.
Speaker 4: Right, I mean, listen, who knows what, for instance, I
Speaker 4: would have done if I'm in a car and armed,
Speaker 4: armed ice agents.
Speaker 1: Come over to try and open my door.
Speaker 4: There's a there's a certain level of I got to
Speaker 4: get out of here, kind of a thing that takes
Speaker 4: over your body.
Speaker 1: I would think, So this.
Speaker 4: Is just an it's just an uncomfortable situation, and I
Speaker 4: think I fear this is going to get worse before
Speaker 4: it gets better.
Speaker 2: I hope that's not the case.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a it's an ugly circumstance, it really is,
Speaker 3: and we'll see how it plays out. But no one
Speaker 3: should be targeting law enforcement, and the worry is, of course.
Speaker 2: If.
Speaker 3: If they move ahead with what now the court is
Speaker 3: said they're okay to do. They don't have to have
Speaker 3: any identification, they don't have to necessarily have anything to
Speaker 3: let you know that they or not random hoodlums on
Speaker 3: the street. That's going to be confusing for everyday citizens
Speaker 3: looking to defend themselves. That's my concern.
Speaker 4: There's no badge number, there's no there's nothing that will
Speaker 4: ident including their you know face masks.
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you adhere to that.
Speaker 3: It's a tough scenario. Your chance to sound off on this,
Speaker 3: and a whole lot of other ground to cover. We
Speaker 3: got a doctor talking about new dietary guide lanes. Apparently
Speaker 3: the food triangle has been turned upside down. I don't
Speaker 3: even know what that means.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear about that.
Speaker 3: We'll find out what the deal is with that coming
Speaker 3: up after ten o'clock when you see health also issues
Speaker 3: with the flu which is still going around. I'm healthy,
Speaker 3: I'm fine, I'm hydrating.
Speaker 1: And COVID too few my friends have it.
Speaker 3: Everything's great, everything's just fine. We'll get James as well
Speaker 3: straight away. Your nine thirty report. It's Stirling and Donna
Speaker 3: Dee and the broadcast Sheriff Dave Keaton keeping us on
Speaker 3: time in line as well for Scott Sloan on a
Speaker 3: Friday on the Nation station Hall of the Red seven
Speaker 3: hundred WLW Scott Sloan Show for a Friday Sansusloany. It's
Speaker 3: Stirling and.
Speaker 2: Donna d hanging out.
Speaker 3: Glad you're along, coming up after ten yet you see
Speaker 3: Health's Family Medicine Doctor Chris lewis gonna join us try
Speaker 3: to break down the upside down now a dietary triangle
Speaker 3: from the government.
Speaker 2: I just remember they taught us all that stuff when
Speaker 2: I was a kid.
Speaker 1: No, we grew up on it.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, ever and all that, and now it's
Speaker 3: it's different. So we'll figure out what the difference means
Speaker 3: if it actually is healthy. Was the other dietary plan
Speaker 3: killing us and we didn't know? Maybe that's why we're
Speaker 3: all fats lost trying to take drugs to get skinny,
Speaker 3: I don't know. And then also an update on the
Speaker 3: flu and every apparently there's a lot of people with
Speaker 3: a lot of snot.
Speaker 2: But it's true.
Speaker 4: No, everybody is so sick this year. It's bizarre, that's
Speaker 4: what happens. So you just totally shake it off and
Speaker 4: do well. And Kevin Carr silver Gek on the substack
Speaker 4: going to talk new movies and I know, big award
Speaker 4: show weekend for those who care about that. I love
Speaker 4: movies and stuff, so talk about Yeah, it's a big party.
Speaker 4: That's when all those movie types go get liquored up
Speaker 4: and stuff. And then they go on stage and they
Speaker 4: get the speeches, the long speeches.
Speaker 3: Yes, and diatribes about stuff, and then the beginning of
Speaker 3: the week everyone will complain about it will be great.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 3: Something that is bewildering to me. And with all the
Speaker 3: other talks around the country about Minneapolis and Portland and
Speaker 3: shootings and immigration stuff. Ken Cobert, who of course is
Speaker 3: a FOP president here in town, reports have been this
Speaker 3: morning apparently, and I find this difficult to believe, if
Speaker 3: for no other reason, it seems unfathomable to me. Donna,
Speaker 3: if you remember it's gone back aways now. On the
Speaker 3: first of May, there was a shooting involving Cincinnati police
Speaker 3: and Ryan Hidden. He was killed by law enforcement a
Speaker 3: teenager with a gun, allegedly in a heisted boosted car.
Speaker 3: I think that was confirmed, but let's just go with allegations,
Speaker 3: I don't need a lawsuit. Fleeing from police and a
Speaker 3: law enforcement came up on them, exiting the car with
Speaker 3: gun in hand. Law enforcement discharged weapon, defending themselves, and
Speaker 3: this young man ended up debt.
Speaker 2: We know.
Speaker 3: Subsequently, his father, in a fit of rage or crazy,
Speaker 3: temporary insanity, whatever it is that the defense attempt is
Speaker 3: on this particular situation, went out and effectively targeted around
Speaker 3: University of Cincinnati on a detailed duty Hamilton County Deputy
Speaker 3: Sheriff Larry Henderson, who ran him down and killed him.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming I guess you'd call it retaliation or something, right,
Speaker 3: That's what it was. Okay, So the allegation, yeah, and
Speaker 3: he's dealing with that. That's in the courts and being navigated.
Speaker 3: But the talk has been that apparently the city, in
Speaker 3: some fashion which they have denied by the way, that
Speaker 3: they are working towards a settlement with the family, supposedly
Speaker 3: as some type of payoff Ford. This, let me just say,
Speaker 3: is horrific, a nightmare scenario, Donna, that that thing happened
Speaker 3: on the first of May. You got a car full
Speaker 3: of young people in a heisted vehicle, allegedly fleeing from
Speaker 3: police in a pursuit in this situation, after they had
Speaker 3: been found, then they flee the car, and this kid
Speaker 3: had a weapon in his hand. And if you're in
Speaker 3: law enforcement and you're in that heat of the moment situation,
Speaker 3: it looks like a clean shooting, a justifiable shooting in
Speaker 3: the defense of oneself. Here, I don't know why anyone
Speaker 3: would entertain the idea of paying off the family, as
Speaker 3: if somehow it was not a good shooting. And will
Speaker 3: only mean when I say good shooting, not that it
Speaker 3: was good that had happened, but it was a justifiable
Speaker 3: defense by law enforcement to protect himself others around in
Speaker 3: the community at large. If this person is fleeing in
Speaker 3: that situation with a firearm in hand, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and we talked about this.
Speaker 4: It's like, Okay, you're you're allegedly in a stalling car,
Speaker 4: police pull you over, and you get a weapon and
Speaker 4: you pointed at the officer.
Speaker 1: What is the officer left to do?
Speaker 2: Handle yourself? You have to protect yourself.
Speaker 4: That's that is a defensible shooting. It's like you said,
Speaker 4: it's a horrible thing, but so why would there be
Speaker 4: a payoff for that?
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3: So I mean, and here's the thing that's so weird
Speaker 3: to me. One if they were actually doing it, the
Speaker 3: fact that it got out because the FOP sort of
Speaker 3: you know, you got hint of it and wanted to
Speaker 3: mention it right and get it out there. Maybe the
Speaker 3: politics of it, to change the optics, to maybe put
Speaker 3: the kaibash on it. But it is bewildering that that
Speaker 3: would even be entertained. You have a situation that there's
Speaker 3: heart hardly and more glaringly obvious. At the time there
Speaker 3: were everybody wanted to come out immediately. I said, look,
Speaker 3: just wait until the dust settles, look at the investigation,
Speaker 3: look at the video and see it. And as it
Speaker 3: came out, it was being clear. But every time there
Speaker 3: was something else out that as horrible as the outcome is,
Speaker 3: this cop did what was necessary to end what was
Speaker 3: a threat in that shit well.
Speaker 1: And the father.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a clear case of something horribly
Speaker 4: going wrong and then continuing down the road of horrible behavior.
Speaker 4: I mean, I get that there's gonna be pain. There's
Speaker 4: gonna be pain if your child is is shot and kilt.
Speaker 4: I mean that that's gonna be pain. But running down
Speaker 4: the police officer that it just seems like this whole
Speaker 4: circle of bad behavior that is just getting any nobody,
Speaker 4: everybody nowhere. It's terrible, terrible, another terrible story. We're talking
Speaker 4: about them this Friday mornings. Strelling's not our fault. It's
Speaker 4: the news. Yes, I mean, and we'll have light fun
Speaker 4: stuff too. But if I've won three seven, four, nine, seven,
Speaker 4: eight hundred, the big when you can talk back the
Speaker 4: iHeartRadio app. I'm just what I'm curious about is how
Speaker 4: I just I can't believe it's even possible that that
Speaker 4: How would that even get to the point where that, yeah,
Speaker 4: maybe we settle I don't. I can't believe that that's
Speaker 4: actually what was being discussed or is being discussed or
Speaker 4: worked out in some fashion, because I don't see in
Speaker 4: any way at all, whatsoever where anyone reasonably, irrationally can't
Speaker 4: look at that and say it was a justified shooting,
Speaker 4: horrible disastrous outcome for that young man in the family. Donna,
Speaker 4: But no, how about you don't have a gun in
Speaker 4: the car, and you don't steal a car, and you
Speaker 4: don't you know, you put yourself in these really bad positions.
Speaker 4: I think it was Bob earlier on the caller earlier
Speaker 4: who said, you know, you you have to adhere to
Speaker 4: law and enforcement and authority, and if you're going to
Speaker 4: act like that, there's going to be some repercussions no
Speaker 4: matter what, whether you get caught later, you're in jail,
Speaker 4: you do this, you do that?
Speaker 1: I mean, would the what if.
Speaker 4: He surrendered and went to jail for you know, firearm
Speaker 4: and sealing the car would have been a lot better
Speaker 4: than the situation that he got himself in pointing at
Speaker 4: a police officer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, you've got a fleeing seemingly fellon
Speaker 3: with the firearm going. It would have been moving through
Speaker 3: a neighborhood in desperation. What are they going to do
Speaker 3: with that weapon if it's not in that situation just
Speaker 3: coming at law enforcement officer and in retribution or fear
Speaker 3: whatever else it is not thinking how about don't boost
Speaker 3: the car?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: How about stop when they tell you? How about get
Speaker 3: out with your hands out. You've probably seen enough videos
Speaker 3: to know how to handle that. Stop situation and go
Speaker 3: to court, live another day to deal with it. Don't
Speaker 3: put somebody in fear of their lives if you're doing
Speaker 3: some criminal stuff some bad things may in fact come
Speaker 3: your way just by the you know, just by life happening.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: You see these videos on like social media and I
Speaker 4: hate it. I hate it, but you see these people
Speaker 4: going into these stores and stealing a bunch of stuff,
Speaker 4: and then people try to stop, don't touch me, don't
Speaker 4: touch me, don't touch It's like what you can't This
Speaker 4: isn't a free for all. You can't just do what
Speaker 4: you want. We are a nation of laws. And if
Speaker 4: you steal stuff, if you have weapons in your car,
Speaker 4: if you there's going to be ramifications for that, and
Speaker 4: you should expect that.
Speaker 3: It seems about as basic as anything it really does.
Speaker 3: Five point three seven eight hundred the big one. Stirling
Speaker 3: Donnade making a lot of sense on a Friday for
Speaker 3: Scott Sloan. We are, we are. It's hard sometimes, but
Speaker 3: somebody's got to do it. To Mason, with Jim and
Speaker 3: Gary and Chris and others in room for you. What's
Speaker 3: going on?
Speaker 2: Jim? How are you?
Speaker 9: I'm good, sterling, how are you?
Speaker 7: This is a great topic you brought up this morning.
Speaker 2: Thank you man. What's on your mind?
Speaker 11: Well, the city administration supposedly now is trying to attract
Speaker 11: the officers to the Cincinnati Police Force, Yet they do
Speaker 11: stupid stuff like this that tells anybody looking.
Speaker 1: To do that.
Speaker 11: Why would I come into the Cincinnati Police Force when
Speaker 11: the administration doesn't support you or sends out the message
Speaker 11: that the police did something wrong in this. They did
Speaker 11: absolutely nothing wrong in this. It was justified shooting in that.
Speaker 11: The only other thing I'd like to say is I
Speaker 11: live in Mason now and I was thinking about buying
Speaker 11: a condo, and I've totally ruled out the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 11: I don't go to the Esquire Theater anymore. A lot
Speaker 11: of the places that I used to go to, I
Speaker 11: don't go to anymore because I don't trust the city
Speaker 11: as far as keeping me safe. I'm in my seventies
Speaker 11: and I just don't trust the city administration. It is
Speaker 11: unbelievable to me. You look back at the bridge fire,
Speaker 11: nobody gets, nobody gets in trouble for that. You look
Speaker 11: at the other faux pass by the administration, nobody gets
Speaker 11: in trouble. There's no accountability. It's unbelievable. Pretty much what
Speaker 11: I have to say.
Speaker 3: Well, Jim, I appreciate the call, thank you, and I
Speaker 3: hate the idea that you don't feel like getting out
Speaker 3: and about in what isn't a world class city being Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: But I know people have that feeling, and sometimes you
Speaker 3: get a little bit older. There's a lot that goes
Speaker 3: into that too.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 4: I hate that as well, because I'm downtown a lot
Speaker 4: and I always I don't not feel safe.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a woman too, and.
Speaker 4: So I feel pretty safe in downtown Cincinnati, and some
Speaker 4: of these amazing restaurants and theaters and things like that
Speaker 4: really spoiled we are.
Speaker 1: We have a great city downtown.
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry you feel that way, Jim, But this
Speaker 4: is why this kind of stuff snowballs. You know, something
Speaker 4: happens over here and Jim feels like he can't go
Speaker 4: down and hang out in a great city that we have.
Speaker 1: That's a bummer.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 3: What I would like to hear is from the city
Speaker 3: to actually come out and say that they were or
Speaker 3: were not, and actually say it if they were working
Speaker 3: on a settlement here or not. If the FOB came
Speaker 3: out and that is factual information, it is bewildering, and
Speaker 3: liked them to rationalize it, justify it to the public
Speaker 3: rather than doing it quietly though most negotiations are private. Generally,
Speaker 3: it just doesn't make sense on any reason at all
Speaker 3: whatsoever for what is clearly a justified shooting, as horrific
Speaker 3: as the outcome, is that law enforcement officer has to
Speaker 3: live with taking a life of another, even though it
Speaker 3: was in their own survival and defense of the community
Speaker 3: as well, and a family lost the This kid who
Speaker 3: was not doing what he should have been, should have
Speaker 3: been doing just about anything else other than being in
Speaker 3: a stolen car hanging out with other you know, kids,
Speaker 3: young people doing some criminal stuff. Sometimes bad outcomes happen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just terrible. Five point three seven four nine, seven,
Speaker 3: eight hundred, the big one. Let's see, let's get to Gary, then,
Speaker 3: Zach and Chris in the room for you on a
Speaker 3: Friday Scott Sloan Show with Stirling and Donnade.
Speaker 12: What do you have, Gary, Well, I've been listening pretty
Speaker 12: intently to all this for the last year, since ma
Speaker 12: since this young man cast his own death. But then,
Speaker 12: just like day before yesterday, that woman cast her own death.
Speaker 12: Same thing with George Floyd. They all have something in common.
Speaker 12: They broke the laws. And what we're not hearing and
Speaker 12: the liberal media, the left and the right. They need
Speaker 12: to be driving home and try to reverse the damage
Speaker 12: and the fear that they've created in people, especially people
Speaker 12: of color. Comply, comply, comply. They've created such a hatred
Speaker 12: and a disrespect for law enforcement, no matter who it is,
Speaker 12: if it's a Cincinnati police, Gayton police, Sidney, Ohio police
Speaker 12: where I live or wherever, or ice. We are living
Speaker 12: in terrible times. And it's the political media, liberal media
Speaker 12: that have created this hostile environment toward police officers, and
Speaker 12: people are going to continue to die if they do
Speaker 12: not comply.
Speaker 3: It's that simple, Gary, I appreciate the call that you know,
Speaker 3: te tying in the George Floyd thing or otherwise. He
Speaker 3: was complying and not a threat at that point, and
Speaker 3: that officer was, you know, paying a price for obviously
Speaker 3: doing what he did in the way that that played
Speaker 3: out in some fashion. But yeah, I mean, if you're
Speaker 3: in a situation you've been directed by police, it's real simple.
Speaker 3: They have the authority, they have the firepower. I'd rather
Speaker 3: live to fight in court if you disagree with what
Speaker 3: has gone on with that process of one's arrest or detainment,
Speaker 3: rather than ending up in a bag or otherwise there's
Speaker 3: no need for that engagement unnecessarily. But I mean not
Speaker 3: all of those cases you mentioned are apples to oranges
Speaker 3: in that respectfully. I mean, it's just in my opinion,
Speaker 3: it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 3: Let's get to downtown, Bob and Zach and Chris. We
Speaker 3: got a room for a few more before you're ten
Speaker 3: o'clock report, and then we'll talk on healthy Can I just.
Speaker 4: Say too, though, I do understand what Gary is talking
Speaker 4: about and comply, and I do feel like a lot
Speaker 4: of people, you know, feel justified in not complying. And
Speaker 4: that's the worst thing you can do in a situation
Speaker 4: when a police officer pulls you over, you answer questions
Speaker 4: and you comply.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with him at all.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, it's real simple. Everybody wants to go home.
Speaker 3: Everybody's trying to do whatever they got to do.
Speaker 4: Well, we have to have law and order in this country,
Speaker 4: and you can't just ignore that.
Speaker 3: No, And the other side of it is that you
Speaker 3: also and I have friends that are police, and they'll
Speaker 3: talk about courts. I mean, here's the thing. You also
Speaker 3: want your civil rights, your civil liberties to be protected
Speaker 3: and adhered to. No differently, than anyone Else's whether you're
Speaker 3: in a uniform wearing a badge and a side arm
Speaker 3: and doing you know, the government work as a police
Speaker 3: officer or a federal authority or otherwise. We all do
Speaker 3: have rights and that does not cease just because there
Speaker 3: is some type of back and forth and that has
Speaker 3: to be respected both ways in my view. Anyway too,
Speaker 3: All right, the Bob, But your turn with Sterling and
Speaker 3: Donnade on the big one.
Speaker 10: Yeah, this is real possible that the settlement discussions are
Speaker 10: being driven by the city's insurance company. There have been
Speaker 10: some large jury vertices involving governmental agencies that's screwed up.
Speaker 10: And I'm not saying anybody screwed up, but the insurance
Speaker 10: company may be afraid of getting a large judgment against
Speaker 10: the city, right, and therefore they are telling us sit
Speaker 10: he look, we can settle this, and if the city
Speaker 10: doesn't agree to that, the insurance company can then deny
Speaker 10: the obligation of reimbursement.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I would love to Bob, And that's
Speaker 3: a great place point that I really hate to think
Speaker 3: would be the reality of the circumstance for those not
Speaker 3: knowing about this. And I think that the city would
Speaker 3: be negotiating a settlement because of that, even though it
Speaker 3: seems completely inappropriately, there.
Speaker 4: Has to be some moral judgment here on whether right
Speaker 4: and wrong does matter.
Speaker 1: It does, and so money should be set aside.
Speaker 4: And we had a call earlier with Jim supporting the
Speaker 4: police officer that put his life on the line. That
Speaker 4: is very, very that should take precedent over any kind
Speaker 4: of settlement.
Speaker 3: You have a fire arm in your hand, you're fleeing
Speaker 3: police involved in a heist of a car, and you're
Speaker 3: not doing what they say. You exit the vehicle with
Speaker 3: the gun in hand. What exactly is it that you
Speaker 3: expect someone to do in that situation?
Speaker 2: How is that not justified?
Speaker 3: In the defense the Dark County, Steve was Stirling and
Speaker 3: Donnade on the Big One for Scott Sloan. What's going on, Steve?
Speaker 9: Hey, here's my thoughts on this.
Speaker 13: The City of Cincinnati pays out any day, and I
Speaker 13: understand what your last.
Speaker 5: Caller just said. He's not wrong in.
Speaker 13: The thought process, but I think the family of the
Speaker 13: dead police officer should then sue the family for that
Speaker 13: amount because he's just as dead in a wrongful death.
Speaker 6: Am I.
Speaker 3: I'm processing it. I mean, no, I see what he's saying,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't the wrongful. Yeah, that is great.
Speaker 4: I see what he's saying, because he should just get
Speaker 4: the money back because here he is the officer for
Speaker 4: no fault of his own has been run over and
Speaker 4: now he's not he's deceased as well. But the officer
Speaker 4: was justified in many ways unfortunately killing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean there's so many layers to that with that, Dad,
Speaker 3: I mean he targeted that deputy. I mean out there
Speaker 3: just helping people get around, you see. And it was
Speaker 3: graduation time. Was that the first of May of commencement
Speaker 3: stuff or whatever else in and around there.
Speaker 2: It was just horrific. Uh.
Speaker 3: I'm just still trying to make sense of the idea
Speaker 3: that for an insurance purpose and CYA or otherwise Donna
Speaker 3: that they're like, we should just negotiate a settlement on this.
Speaker 2: It was just a viable shooting.
Speaker 1: That is the problem of why.
Speaker 4: Billable hours and and and insurance purposes. That's where we
Speaker 4: go wrong on a lot of things. I mean, Gary
Speaker 4: had a very good point there, or.
Speaker 3: Bob rather hard to make sense of that at all.
Speaker 3: It's a Friday Scott Sloane Show. Sterling and Donna d
Speaker 3: coming back after your ten o'clock reporter update on what's
Speaker 3: going on around the tri State and Planet Earth that
Speaker 3: matters to us. Here, Chris lewis you see health? Doc
Speaker 3: gonna join us talk about new dietary guidelines trying to
Speaker 3: get fit and healthy into the warm year. In front
Speaker 3: of us, they've turned the pyramid upside down. I don't
Speaker 3: know whatever, really.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for this discussion.
Speaker 3: And we'll talk flu. If you're hacking or know someone
Speaker 3: whose nose is running, if your nose is sore from
Speaker 3: blowing it too much, this could be a time for
Speaker 3: you to find your way to good health as well.
Speaker 3: Either way, we'll have some lasts. Glad you're along. By
Speaker 3: the way, this the home of the Red seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American idiot?
Speaker 3: All right, it's a Friday Scott Sloan show. He's enjoying
Speaker 3: a day off, long weekend for him. Gives me some
Speaker 3: time with Donna d And here we are Sterling and
Speaker 3: Donna de.
Speaker 1: Hey bringing the greens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: You don't is a company I worked with.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's his regular opening man, Doctor Chris Lewis is
Speaker 3: a guy who knows a little bit about family medicine
Speaker 3: from UC Health kind enough to give us some time
Speaker 3: on a Friday morning at Scott Sloan Show. Welcome. You're
Speaker 3: with Stirling and Donna d uh. First of all, explain
Speaker 3: to me the new upside down food pyramid. And Donna
Speaker 3: had a great question off the year, which was simply, I.
Speaker 1: Don't see any seeds or nuts on there.
Speaker 3: She's very concerned. She's a nut eating it's berry. She's
Speaker 3: eating a bag of nuts and berries right now.
Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate your concern, Donna, And first let me
Speaker 5: just say thank you for having me. I appreciate all
Speaker 5: that you all do for Sony is to editate our community.
Speaker 5: But yeah, if you if you're taking a look or
Speaker 5: turned on the news, you've seen that the food pyramid
Speaker 5: has been inverted. It's kind of been slipped upside down,
Speaker 5: and it's a little bit different than what you expect.
Speaker 5: Our original US food pyramid was pretty in nineteen ninety
Speaker 5: two and then revise again in two thousand and five
Speaker 5: and again in twenty eleven. But this looks a little
Speaker 5: bit different, and there's a little bit of controversy in
Speaker 5: the medical community about it.
Speaker 2: What's controversial, Well.
Speaker 5: There's a big emphasis on protein, essentially recommending that people
Speaker 5: double their protein impact, and that's actually some people think
Speaker 5: that that's a good thing because of what it can
Speaker 5: do to give you a sense of fullness and decrease
Speaker 5: your appetite and add muscle mass. But there's also concern
Speaker 5: about the emphasis on red meat and full dairy that
Speaker 5: that might actually kind of contradict some recommendations that have
Speaker 5: been long existing from the American Heart Association based on
Speaker 5: decades of research linking you know, a lot of protein
Speaker 5: and full fat dairy to cardiovascular risk.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, clogging arteries and things like that. And you know,
Speaker 4: even a piece of all you have to do is
Speaker 4: do the research on this. And even if you do
Speaker 4: eat a bunch of red meat eat it takes a
Speaker 4: long time and a lot of energy to digest a
Speaker 4: piece like a steak, a red meat steak or even
Speaker 4: protein period. So if you keep adding it and you double,
Speaker 4: I couldn't agree with the with the assessment. But the
Speaker 4: original food pyramid is because I just pulled it up
Speaker 4: because I haven't seen this in a long time.
Speaker 1: It's like the top part, so it's a diagonal.
Speaker 4: The top part is fats, oils and sweets, so you
Speaker 4: use those sparingly. Then it goes to milk, yogurt and cheese,
Speaker 4: then vegetables and then bread, cereal, rice and pasta.
Speaker 1: That was the old one in the and.
Speaker 4: The big one that everybody should eat and could eat
Speaker 4: six to eleven servings is bread, cereal, rice and pasta.
Speaker 4: And they've flipped that and they say no more processed foods.
Speaker 1: That's the big deal.
Speaker 4: And I agree with that too, eat whole foods, fruits, veggies,
Speaker 4: and nuts and seeds. But yeah, doubling on protein, I
Speaker 4: don't think I agree with.
Speaker 3: Talking to doctor Chris Lewis from U see Health of
Speaker 3: Stirling and Donna a d and for Scott Sloan. So
Speaker 3: how much of a problem is the mult processed food
Speaker 3: in the idea that you alluded to, which is the
Speaker 3: fact that maybe heavy in protein more than maybe a
Speaker 3: lot of dogs might agree with with what the data
Speaker 3: they have now?
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, the protein and the high sat aside, which
Speaker 5: is one of the biggest controversial things that we're seeing
Speaker 5: with the new one. D I think there's universal agree
Speaker 5: or pretty universal agreement that de emphasizing sugar and process
Speaker 5: foods is a good idea, and the emphasis on whole
Speaker 5: foods is great, And Donna, what's your recoon what you're
Speaker 5: talking about with the shape of the pyramid, you know,
Speaker 5: there's also just a little bit of controversy on, you know,
Speaker 5: inverting it and not really having it's harder when you
Speaker 5: look at this one to really figure out portion, sizes
Speaker 5: and quantity of food. Then that was a good thing
Speaker 5: from the former food pyramid. And then in twenty eleven
Speaker 5: we kind of switched to more of the my plate
Speaker 5: where you had this plate broken down in terms of
Speaker 5: size of protein, vegetables, grains, and fruits, and that was
Speaker 5: maybe a little bit easier for the for the common
Speaker 5: person to really kind of digest that the new Fearman
Speaker 5: just the new Superman. The visual of it isn't quite
Speaker 5: as easy to digest for.
Speaker 1: Lack of a better workers fun intended.
Speaker 4: So so everybody agrees that there should be less processed foods,
Speaker 4: less sugar, because we know how destructive that is.
Speaker 2: All that stuff is so.
Speaker 4: Good well, I mean, cereal still is really good, but
Speaker 4: so but also controversial is the double on protein and
Speaker 4: how do we even maintain that because there's you know
Speaker 4: that what they're talking about is animal protein, not not
Speaker 4: protein from nuts and seeds and green leafies and and
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. So we can't even we can't.
Speaker 4: I mean, how many animals do we? We kill billions
Speaker 4: a year for that? How how are we going to
Speaker 4: double that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there are ways to get a lot of
Speaker 5: protein through through non animal products, and there's the rise
Speaker 5: of the protein shakes and that sort of thing. That
Speaker 5: brings up another point of the controversy is that there's
Speaker 5: a little bit of concern in the medical community that
Speaker 5: some of the recommendations may be more heavily influenced by
Speaker 5: particular industries than in the past. So that's always something
Speaker 5: to look at. But you know, I think first and
Speaker 5: foremost people ought to be plugged in with their primary
Speaker 5: care for this or their healthcare network to make sure
Speaker 5: that they can talk to an expert, to someone who
Speaker 5: does this for a living and who can really give
Speaker 5: them tailored advice on nutrition and health based on their
Speaker 5: own health conditions and family history and genetics and all
Speaker 5: those sorts of things.
Speaker 3: Talking to you see health, so family medicine dot Chris
Speaker 3: Lewis was Stirling and Donnade on the big one and
Speaker 3: for Scott Sloan. So you said something interesting. So the
Speaker 3: idea is that what it sounded like is that this
Speaker 3: recommendation and the way they've moved through it is more
Speaker 3: about improving business interest rather than the US citizen's health interest.
Speaker 3: I mean, did I did I hear that correctly?
Speaker 13: No?
Speaker 5: You didn't. There might have been some inference, but I'm
Speaker 5: going to say a political on this, and I would
Speaker 5: just say that the reports coming out of the medical community,
Speaker 5: and there there are some concerns coming from the medical
Speaker 5: community that that have that that raised that question. I
Speaker 5: don't think anybody's pointed fingers just quite yet, but it
Speaker 5: does seem a little odd some of the recommendations, how
Speaker 5: they kind of fly in the face of decades of
Speaker 5: research that that that that proved health and safety and
Speaker 5: have been the backbone of some of the guidelines that
Speaker 5: have existed and agreed upon through all the physician agencies,
Speaker 5: the government agencies like the Food and Drug Administration, research,
Speaker 5: the American Heart Association, all all of that research and
Speaker 5: some of this doesn't really align with that, so it
Speaker 5: raises questions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris, it did sound a little bit harsher the
Speaker 4: ways I was just trying to I wasn't trying to
Speaker 4: cause problems. But it's interesting because we know heart disease
Speaker 4: or a heart attack is lack of blood and or
Speaker 4: oxygen to the heart.
Speaker 1: A stroke is lack of blood.
Speaker 4: You have to have your blood moving freely through the body,
Speaker 4: and when you have a lot of fatty meats and
Speaker 4: dairy and things like that, it's clogging your arteries. So
Speaker 4: it makes it harder to get the blood to the
Speaker 4: heart and blood to the brain and things like that.
Speaker 4: So I mean, I'm not a physician, and I'm not
Speaker 4: here to claim that, but I do a lot of
Speaker 4: research because I actually am plant based, and one of
Speaker 4: the reasons is for my health because of those statistics
Speaker 4: from many of the associations that you just mentioned.
Speaker 2: Chris, I've been called a vegetable.
Speaker 5: And I've been play family doctor for twenty three years
Speaker 5: or twenty six years now, sorry, I've been a family
Speaker 5: doctor for twenty six years and every year the highest thing,
Speaker 5: the most common things that I see your high blood pressure, diabetes,
Speaker 5: and high cholesterol. And I have concerns about my patients
Speaker 5: following some of the new guidelines without proper vetting without
Speaker 5: talking to me first, how big of.
Speaker 3: A problem in the twenty five, twenty six years, whatever
Speaker 3: it's been that you've been doing what you do in
Speaker 3: family practice, doctor Lewis, Are we healthier now or not
Speaker 3: as healthy as we used to be?
Speaker 5: It depends on who you talk to, and there are
Speaker 5: certain segments of the population that are a lot healthier
Speaker 5: certain segments that that aren't quite as healthy. Unfortunately, there
Speaker 5: tends to be a correlation between income in the community
Speaker 5: in which you live and in your own personal income
Speaker 5: and how healthy you are. It's not, you know, an
Speaker 5: exact science, but I am a little bit concerned about
Speaker 5: what's happening in some of our communities that don't have
Speaker 5: the same sorts of means as other communities. You know,
Speaker 5: So some of the things that are coming down the
Speaker 5: pike with with changes to Medicaid and insurance are really
Speaker 5: hurting in particular rural communities and critical access hospitals. So,
Speaker 5: you know, the question is it's hard to answer it
Speaker 5: with a blanket answer, but there are ways in which
Speaker 5: we're a lot healthier. There are ways in which we're
Speaker 5: not a lot healthier, And the growing number of people
Speaker 5: with diabetes and heart disease and high blood pressure. Those
Speaker 5: things concern me and the future generation of doctors as well.
Speaker 4: So as a family doctor or physician yourself, I have
Speaker 4: to ask you what you think of the glp ones,
Speaker 4: the ozempics and things like that. Is it healthy to
Speaker 4: be on those You hear so many different sides to
Speaker 4: this story. But I've seen friends of mine that have
Speaker 4: lost fifty pounds and they've had weight issues their whole life,
Speaker 4: and they've been on these and you seem healthier, live better,
Speaker 4: not stressed out.
Speaker 1: What is your opinion on that?
Speaker 5: Well, I'll pressure my thoughts by saying that I, in general,
Speaker 5: tend to be slow to jump on new medications. That
Speaker 5: that's just my own personal style. I do know that
Speaker 5: there are physicians that feel that they are safely prescribing
Speaker 5: these medications and having profound impacts and the health of
Speaker 5: their patients. I know many doctors that under the supervision
Speaker 5: of their healthcare providers are on these medications and getting
Speaker 5: very good health results. I think the danger right now
Speaker 5: for me lives in people who are accessing these medications
Speaker 5: without healthcare providers, you know, the supervision, and I think
Speaker 5: that can be dangerous.
Speaker 3: Doctor Lewis how does someone get their hands on It's
Speaker 3: a prescribed drug, right, so how are they getting their
Speaker 3: hands on it without a doctor writing the prescription, going
Speaker 3: to the pharmacy, or at least having it sent there
Speaker 3: and having it delivered or otherwise.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if I want to tell you that,
Speaker 5: because then all your listeners might go in to start
Speaker 5: the system by going outside of the US. That is
Speaker 5: one of the more common ways to do that.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 4: And there's also like new things where you don't have
Speaker 4: to gum or something that you don't have to you know,
Speaker 4: inject yourself with it. There's all kinds of new ways
Speaker 4: to get this. I think this will be readily available
Speaker 4: to everybody in the next few years.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see how this plays out long
Speaker 3: term and the effects of that. I'm all for being
Speaker 3: a little bit more cautious, but I'm no doctor, and
Speaker 3: I don't want to play on the radio. That's why
Speaker 3: we have Chris Lewis, a doctor family medicine, a specialist
Speaker 3: from UC Health. With Stirling and Donade on the big one.
Speaker 3: Let's switch this if we can, because there's a whole
Speaker 3: lot of people that have been missing work, missing school
Speaker 3: since it's come back back from the holidays, whether it's
Speaker 3: the croup or bronchitis. Seems the flu is going around.
Speaker 3: The flu shot is still very effective, but apparently the
Speaker 3: strain that's really whipping up a lot of trouble is
Speaker 3: not covered under that. How do we look this week
Speaker 3: compared to say last week, and what you're seeing and
Speaker 3: what you're hearing, Doctor lewis Well.
Speaker 5: In addition to being in a family tradition with UC help,
Speaker 5: I also serve on our Cincinnati Board of Health, so
Speaker 5: I'm due to get our latest report on Tuesday. But
Speaker 5: looking at the previous report, still continues to trend upward,
Speaker 5: steep upward trend for flu since December. And you're exactly right.
Speaker 5: This influenza strain called stub played K is the big
Speaker 5: one that's impacting southwest Ohio. It is not fully cut
Speaker 5: by the flu vaccine. But I want to make sure
Speaker 5: that your listeners understand that that doesn't mean that you
Speaker 5: shouldn't get the flu vaccine. The vaccine helps prevent the
Speaker 5: spread and also lessen the symptoms if you do can
Speaker 5: contract the virus, so it is still universally recommended to
Speaker 5: get your flu vaccine.
Speaker 4: Doctor Lewis, do you recommend getting the COVID vaccine as well?
Speaker 6: I do.
Speaker 5: I'm a big proponent of both the COVID and the
Speaker 5: flu vaccine. Despite all of this political and social media
Speaker 5: controversy out there, vaccine saved lives and that's been demonstrated
Speaker 5: time and time and time again through the science, and
Speaker 5: I would highly encourage people to talk to their healthcare
Speaker 5: provider for the most accurate vaccine recommendations tailored to their
Speaker 5: own particular health situation.
Speaker 3: Doctor Chris Lewis from U SEE Health with Stirling and
Speaker 3: Donnade on the Big One, How has it changed? You mentioned,
Speaker 3: you know, what they people see online and so forth.
Speaker 3: Did they come in and then counsel with you? You know,
Speaker 3: It's one of the questions I've had interesting conversations with
Speaker 3: other docs about whether it was pharmaceutical companies running ads
Speaker 3: and then having people tell doctors what medication they think
Speaker 3: they should be on, rather than allowing doctors to do
Speaker 3: the doctoring. How has that change? And what are you
Speaker 3: seeing trend wise with your patient roster or others that
Speaker 3: you're hearing about with people coming in, Are they taking
Speaker 3: counsel from you in an effective, good way or is
Speaker 3: a lot of the outside interference in static, complicated what
Speaker 3: you do and people's health outcomes.
Speaker 2: Do you think.
Speaker 5: I absolutely love having educated patients and love having patients
Speaker 5: that seek out information. So I will never discount the
Speaker 5: usefulness of patients taking their health into their own hands.
Speaker 5: What I do recommend is there are certain sources of
Speaker 5: information that are trusted and certain sources of information that
Speaker 5: may not have that same sort of rigorous, peer reviewed
Speaker 5: scientific data approach. So when you're looking at record mandations,
Speaker 5: I tend to really put a lot of stock in
Speaker 5: what the physician groups are saying, you know, the American
Speaker 5: Medical Association, the American Heart Association. You know, when you
Speaker 5: have organized medicine and groups of healthcare providers that get
Speaker 5: together with no political influence to make recommendations based on
Speaker 5: the health and safety of individual patients and communities that
Speaker 5: we serve, it's I think it's easier to put a
Speaker 5: lot of stock in those recommendations. So for patients that
Speaker 5: are eager to do their own doctoring and to look
Speaker 5: up things on the Internet and look at various sites
Speaker 5: and things like that, I would encourage them to have
Speaker 5: a little bit of discretion about what sites they're using
Speaker 5: and direct people towards those sources of trusted sites.
Speaker 4: One more question I have to ask him, because I
Speaker 4: do this all the time, maybe even a little bit
Speaker 4: too much. If I have like you know, I have
Speaker 4: this weird thing on my forehead and I took a
Speaker 4: picture of it, and I found out the dermatologists. I
Speaker 4: asked Chatchypt everything. I put in as much information as
Speaker 4: I could. When it appeared what I have never I
Speaker 4: thought I got hit in the head with my foster
Speaker 4: dog because it, you know, and everything it told me,
Speaker 4: I went to the dermatologist.
Speaker 1: And it was correct.
Speaker 4: How much should we How much should we invest in
Speaker 4: believing in Chatchept and the like.
Speaker 5: I think the AI is going to continue to get better,
Speaker 5: and there's a lot of truth to be found. But
Speaker 5: you know, at the end of the day, the healthcare
Speaker 5: industry is a ten trillion dollar industry. And if you
Speaker 5: think that people aren't going to try to take advantage
Speaker 5: of you to make them buck, I think that would
Speaker 5: be that would be shortsighted.
Speaker 3: Great information. We appreciate you making time. We know you're
Speaker 3: busy getting people healthy and keeping them that way too.
Speaker 3: From Uce Health, a family medicine doctor also doing Stuffhamlet
Speaker 3: County Boor of Health doctor Chris Lewis. Thank you for
Speaker 3: making time with us. I want to go to.
Speaker 1: Me, doctor Lewis. I want him to be my doctor.
Speaker 2: You can do.
Speaker 5: I appreciate all you community.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we appreciate you too. Thank you very much.
Speaker 4: Great is that you don't really ever hear doctor talk
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 1: That's amazing.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well for me, well I understand. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: we can get him money.
Speaker 2: You want to do it. We could do a visit
Speaker 2: right here. It would be different. We can do it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Why not your ten thirty reports that are coming up
Speaker 3: an idea as to what's going on in the news
Speaker 3: around the tri state and beyond. Kevin Carr, a movie
Speaker 3: guy from Silber Gecko and h sub Stack in Fat
Speaker 3: Guys that the movie is gonna join us on the
Speaker 3: other side. I feel healthier already. Yeah, I'm going to
Speaker 3: be eating everything on that food triangle immediately. Bring on
Speaker 3: the state. It's Sterling and Donna d for Scott Sloan
Speaker 3: on a beautiful Friday, seven hundred WLW. It's Sterling and
Speaker 3: Donna de hanging out nice. I think it's stopped raining.
Speaker 3: Scott Sloan enjoying a day off. Hopefully all is well
Speaker 3: with you and yours. Well, we've been serious. We've talked health,
Speaker 3: we've talked flu. We like solving the world's problems. No
Speaker 3: matter what ken Brew likes to say, we don't make
Speaker 3: them worse. Kevin Carr makes lots of things better, as
Speaker 3: well as taking the hit for us seeing movies that
Speaker 3: oftentimes are waste of time, that suck in parts of
Speaker 3: our lives that will never get bad because he's a
Speaker 3: civil servant of a different kind. Silver gecko on the substack,
Speaker 3: fat guys at the movies. Kevin, how are you, how's everything?
Speaker 3: Good morning?
Speaker 6: Good morning. I'm used to talking to you in the evening,
Speaker 6: so yeah, my voice is a little hoarse from waking.
Speaker 5: Up out of that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate doing I know, I know.
Speaker 4: I often you're total amateurs. I said to Sterling, like
Speaker 4: he's doing he's Sterling is on fire today, and I said,
Speaker 4: you need to get up earlier and more often.
Speaker 3: And I am awake. I'm just usually not talking publicly.
Speaker 3: I'm talking to my dog and roaming the neighborhood and
Speaker 3: doing other things. Uh, Kevin, this is a I know,
Speaker 3: it's like one of those award show weekend things before
Speaker 3: we get to it, and I think this is a
Speaker 3: like the Fun and an Award show because they think
Speaker 3: they all get tanked and like, you know, belligerent, which
Speaker 3: I enjoyed. That being said, though, at the movies getting
Speaker 3: out and about to maybe hide from the news and
Speaker 3: enjoy ourselves, is there anything actually worth our time going
Speaker 3: to the movie this weekend because this is that weird
Speaker 3: transitional first part of January.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because we're in that time when there are a
Speaker 6: lot of like big like event films. You know, you
Speaker 6: still have Avatar in the theaters, You've got all the award
Speaker 6: films that are in the theaters, and then you got
Speaker 6: all the crap they're dumping out in January in the theaters.
Speaker 6: And when it comes to you know, you were describing
Speaker 6: what I do as a silver civil servant, you know,
Speaker 6: taking a hit for everybody for a movie sucks. I
Speaker 6: did that this week because I chose to go check
Speaker 6: out Greenland to Migration, which is the sequel to Greenland,
Speaker 6: which was a monestin about five years ago which Gerard
Speaker 6: Butler escaping a comet. He escapes to Greenland to to
Speaker 6: avoid this destructive comment that's gonna wipe out the world.
Speaker 6: Here's the sequel, five years ago. Don't don't worry about
Speaker 6: the science. Just everything's still on fire and blowing up.
Speaker 6: That that's that's what's happening. And the Greenland facility has
Speaker 6: been compromised, so they have to migrate south into France
Speaker 6: to try and find this zone of safety to live in.
Speaker 6: And you know, this really is terrible of a move.
Speaker 6: It's a disaster film in more ways than just the
Speaker 6: descriptive nature. It's well, part of it is the the
Speaker 6: the event already happened. The comet hit in the last movie,
Speaker 6: so you don't get that big build up to a
Speaker 6: climac again. Everything's destroyed already. So he and his wife
Speaker 6: and son are are sort of taking this journey and
Speaker 6: it's sort of like, you know, it's like The Lord
Speaker 6: of the Rings, if it was all dark and dingy
Speaker 6: and everything was destroyed and there's just a bunch of
Speaker 6: emo hobbits walking across Europe. It's that this movie is.
Speaker 6: It's it's a pale imitation. And what's weird about it too,
Speaker 6: This is a strange thing that kind of caught me.
Speaker 6: They have these needle drops in the soundtrack of popular songs,
Speaker 6: but it feels like a k tel ad because they're
Speaker 6: like these soft rock hits that that don't really kind
Speaker 6: of make if that doesn't make the movie exciting, so
Speaker 6: it doesn't. Yeah, it just doesn't work. So here's the thing.
Speaker 6: There's another movie called Primate out which is about a
Speaker 6: killer eight cool and apparently that that's got some great
Speaker 6: reviews and it's doing well. So I chose poorly this weekend.
Speaker 6: And uh, that's my advice to use. Don't choose poorly.
Speaker 6: If you're gonna go see something, it can't be worse
Speaker 6: than Greenland too, So you can check out Primate.
Speaker 4: That's That's the one I was going to ask you about.
Speaker 4: Is rated R. It's a horror film and it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get a monkey and ape whatever I mean, simeons,
Speaker 3: I mean, anytime you get a story about any any
Speaker 3: of those, it's fantastic.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they go for the eyes, they go for your
Speaker 6: privates when they get mad. That is what happens with it.
Speaker 6: There's always here's the thing. First of all, I don't
Speaker 6: know if you've ever dealt with I've never dealt with
Speaker 6: apes and chips and that sort of thing. But I've
Speaker 6: dealt with monkeys. Monkeys are a bunch of jerks. They
Speaker 6: are not nice things. They're mischievous. They're just smart enough
Speaker 6: to be a pain. So yeah, and they'll poop everywhere
Speaker 6: they do it.
Speaker 3: Well, I think I've told you this. I know I've
Speaker 3: mentioned it on the year at least once. Is a
Speaker 3: kid growing up, I had a neighbor of the building
Speaker 3: next door, Todd, and they had a pet monkey, and
Speaker 3: all the time everybody go to his house, like after school,
Speaker 3: he'd be like, Oh, we're gonna do homework at Todd's house,
Speaker 3: go see the monkey. And that poor monkey was in
Speaker 3: this cage and all he did was fling poop at everybody.
Speaker 3: Was miserable all all the time, and I wanted to
Speaker 3: rescue the monkey. Mang goes, No, you can't do that.
Speaker 3: It's not your monkey. First of all, it's horrible. It's sad.
Speaker 3: I get what you're saying, but it could rip your
Speaker 3: face off, and it had these big teeth and they
Speaker 3: filed down.
Speaker 2: It was just a horrible thing.
Speaker 3: So, but I'd like to see a monkey movie.
Speaker 6: There's there's great movies about monkeys. Killing people.
Speaker 2: But yeah, this discuss or apes.
Speaker 6: Really this is a chimpanzee. I believe so, because you
Speaker 6: know there's a difference. You know, the difference from monkeys
Speaker 6: and apes is I mean, there's certain evolutionary things, but
Speaker 6: monkeys have tails, apes don't. And so chimpanzees, Bonobo's gorillas, orangutangs,
Speaker 6: those are apes. And you know, rangutangs are no joke either,
Speaker 6: you know they there was that orangutang in those way
Speaker 6: but loose Clyde, Yeah, yeah, no orangutangs. Man watch out
Speaker 6: for them.
Speaker 3: They look so sweet, but that's that they are. But
Speaker 3: you know that's the thing that people are drawn to them.
Speaker 3: I remember being a kid going to the zoo and
Speaker 3: I thought, oh, they look so sweet. I'd like to
Speaker 3: get in there early. You can't do that, and we
Speaker 3: know how it worked out here some years ago. Sideways too,
Speaker 3: But there's a big difference.
Speaker 1: Devin.
Speaker 4: You the Golden Globes are on this Sunday. Do you
Speaker 4: still care to watch those? Is this something that you've
Speaker 4: ever watched or or you know, is it is it
Speaker 4: interesting to.
Speaker 1: You at all?
Speaker 9: Well?
Speaker 6: I mean I've watched the Golden Globes bits and times.
Speaker 6: It's not. You know, it's it's sort of like the
Speaker 6: precursor to the Oscars. Yeah, we had Critics' Choice last week,
Speaker 6: and now we've got the Golden Globes, and then I'm
Speaker 6: going to do the Oscars in a couple and in
Speaker 6: a month or two. I don't even think they have
Speaker 6: they haven't even dropped the nominations. The problem is there's
Speaker 6: so many awards now, uh and and they're so publicized
Speaker 6: that by the time you get to the Oscars, you
Speaker 6: know who's gonna win, and you know who's gonna win
Speaker 6: this one. I mean, the only thing that makes this
Speaker 6: interesting with the Golden Globes is they've got the split category.
Speaker 6: You know, they go drama and then they have musical
Speaker 6: or comedy, right, and pretty much I think one Battle
Speaker 6: after another is gonna sweep because it's sweeping everything that's
Speaker 6: in the comedy section. So in the drama section, I
Speaker 6: think Sinners is it's Sinners to lose, but it's all
Speaker 6: gonna be it's all gonna kind of coalesce around one
Speaker 6: battle after another or sinners. You're gonna get a couple
Speaker 6: of average awards, not from those movies, you know, like
Speaker 6: Jesse Buckley might win Best Actress for Hamnet.
Speaker 4: But what about Timothy Shallo May. I mean he won
Speaker 4: the critics' choice. He's up against Leo DiCaprio. You think
Speaker 4: DiCaprio is gonna be Timothy Shallo May.
Speaker 6: I think Timothy Shallo May has has momentum on his side.
Speaker 6: I'm not a big fan. I am not what you
Speaker 6: call a Shala maniac.
Speaker 1: So many guys are not. It's sterling. It is the
Speaker 1: weirdest thing.
Speaker 4: Literally, when I ask guys about Timothy Shallo may as,
Speaker 4: I was asking Jack Crumley. He's not a huge fan either.
Speaker 4: It's so funny. Why is Tell me why you're not
Speaker 4: a huge fan?
Speaker 1: Kevin Well.
Speaker 6: I mean the guy can act. Look, I don't get
Speaker 6: me wrong. I believe he can act. But you know
Speaker 6: my biggest problem. Cut your dog on hair. You know
Speaker 6: he has the same hairstyle in every movie he does,
Speaker 6: whether it's Doom, Little Women or Wonk. I mean, he's
Speaker 6: got the same hair. Just get a style. You are
Speaker 6: dating a Jenner for crying out loud, you should have
Speaker 6: access to better hair, dudes.
Speaker 14: I see.
Speaker 3: Because I I for some reason for the longest time,
Speaker 3: and this lets you know how engaged involved I am,
Speaker 3: and what it means to me. I for some reason
Speaker 3: thought that the guy from the Bear was to the
Speaker 3: Tynathy Shallow, but Jeremy Allen was, Yeah, but they're not
Speaker 3: the same guy.
Speaker 6: He played Bruce Springstein. Yeah, that's his Award film.
Speaker 1: How did you like that Bruce Springstein film?
Speaker 6: It's okay, it's a little long. A lot of times
Speaker 6: they get long and drawn out. And one of the
Speaker 6: things that I felt the same way about Songs on Blue,
Speaker 6: which is a good song, a good movie, but half
Speaker 6: the movie is spent recreating the music, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 6: I can just go pick up the album.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Ye, to me, that's not super impressive. I mean sometimes
Speaker 6: it's done really well. I think Rocketman did it well
Speaker 6: in a Bolimian did as well. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 6: if I really want to hear a good, good version
Speaker 6: of Born in the USA, I'm just gonna listen to
Speaker 6: the original recording.
Speaker 3: And I know I heard Dan Carroll the other night
Speaker 3: going on about this, and we discussed this that the
Speaker 3: you know, the movie that's out now is everybody seems
Speaker 3: to think it is somehow, uh a documentary or sort
Speaker 3: of like the Springsteen movie for uh, sweet Caroline, Guy.
Speaker 2: What's right that it's it's it's other people.
Speaker 3: There are people that are doing his show or acting,
Speaker 3: like what do you call it?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: The impressed cover.
Speaker 6: Is what it is.
Speaker 2: It's a really weird thory.
Speaker 6: It is a true story. There was a documentary on
Speaker 6: this several years ago. But yeah, so yeah, it's that
Speaker 6: I think is a little little more interesting. But still
Speaker 6: it's like, look, you gotta really like Neil Diamond stuff.
Speaker 6: And they do some deep cuts in those. You know,
Speaker 6: they got Suliman as one of their big songs. Nobody
Speaker 6: knows that.
Speaker 3: It's just an odd thing, you know, is someone doing
Speaker 3: a cover acd ends up you get in the movie
Speaker 3: about them, but say it's heartwarming and all the other
Speaker 3: stuff that goes along with it.
Speaker 4: It's just all I haven't seen Avatar two. Did you
Speaker 4: like that? I mean everybody? It's getting pretty good reviews
Speaker 4: and it's certainly a big blockbuster.
Speaker 1: Did you like it, Kevin?
Speaker 6: Well, it's Avatar three. It's the third one actually, so
Speaker 6: the second one came out about three years ago.
Speaker 1: What did I say? Avatar two mean too?
Speaker 6: I just want to make sure you know that there
Speaker 6: was another one in between. They're very similar and they're good.
Speaker 6: They're spectacle, that's what they are. I mean, you want
Speaker 6: to see something with amazing special effects and great action.
Speaker 6: It's one of those movies that's worked. Going to go
Speaker 6: see an imax. It's actually worth checking him out in
Speaker 6: a high frame, right, even though it does kind of
Speaker 6: have that that so properly look to it. But yeah,
Speaker 6: it's a good movie. It's it's it's it's Cameron doing
Speaker 6: what he does very very well. So yeah, if you
Speaker 6: want the spectacle, but you know, as Sterling points out,
Speaker 6: you may want to get the catheter because it is
Speaker 6: three hours and eighteen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's long. That is that's little. I don't know
Speaker 4: a longer movie than that. Is there a longer movie
Speaker 4: than that three hours?
Speaker 6: Whether the Brutalist Brutalist last year was like four.
Speaker 1: Hours, Wow, that's brutal, and.
Speaker 6: I think I think Gone with the Wind is push
Speaker 6: pushes four hours. But yeah, they usually don't make them
Speaker 6: over three too much.
Speaker 3: Now, Hugh Jackman's doing this other thing too, which is
Speaker 3: this Death of Robin Hood movie or whatever else too
Speaker 3: that that seems a little better than than than the
Speaker 3: other thing. Does that look as good to you? And
Speaker 3: it tells a different story of robin Hood. I kind
Speaker 3: of seem interested in that rather than the warm and fuzzy,
Speaker 3: hold hands and sing song stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe maybe I'll get a problem.
Speaker 6: I think the thing is, they do so many different
Speaker 6: versions of Robinhood. I'm not terribly familiar with this new one.
Speaker 6: I think he should dress up as a fox, and
Speaker 6: you should have a guy who dresses up as as
Speaker 6: a bear, you know, and and and and just do
Speaker 6: it as the Disney version of Robinhood, but with really
Speaker 6: bad constumes. I think more interesting.
Speaker 2: That's a whole nother show. That's a whole nother angle.
Speaker 3: Anything else the consequence before he let you bounce off
Speaker 3: into enjoy the rest of your Kevin Carr Silver Gecko
Speaker 3: on Substack Weekend.
Speaker 6: No, I mean I think that that those are the
Speaker 6: big ones in the theaters you still got to. I
Speaker 6: still haven't seen any combat, and I really want to.
Speaker 2: It looks good because it looks so stupid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the first movie was too. It wasn't even
Speaker 3: I don't think it was supposed to be funny. But
Speaker 3: I laughed through that whole ice Cube movie with Jennifer
Speaker 3: Lopez and John Boyd.
Speaker 6: When chewing the scenery and the worst Peruvian accent ever.
Speaker 6: I mean, and what I loved about what I love
Speaker 6: about this movie is it treats it like at least
Speaker 6: it seems to treat that one with reverence good, which
Speaker 6: it does not earn. And I do want to see it.
Speaker 6: I haven't gotten around to it yet because well, you know,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of other movies I had to see.
Speaker 3: You do what you can do, and it's all you can.
Speaker 3: We always appreciate your time and doing what you do.
Speaker 3: Go take a nap. We appreciate you giving us some
Speaker 3: time earlier than normal. Kevin Carr, silver Gecko on Substack,
Speaker 3: take care of yourself and avoid Greenland too.
Speaker 6: Apparently can't.
Speaker 2: I already did it, Im Sorry.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we're a lot. Apparently we were
Speaker 3: trying to get there anyway. But that's a whole other conversation, Kevin,
Speaker 3: take care of your Thanks, Kevin, appreciate it. You know,
Speaker 3: we got the eleven o'clock report coming up, and we're
Speaker 3: gonna talk about relationship stuff of a different kind then.
Speaker 3: But you mentioned something to me that I completely missed,
Speaker 3: and we got a little bit of time to talk
Speaker 3: about it. I want to understand. I thought it was
Speaker 3: a band. You're like, if you heard about the walking Monks,
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, what are you talking about? Monks walking?
Speaker 4: Where peace wuk? So we were talking about such negative stuff.
Speaker 4: I'm like, can we throw in a little bit of positive?
Speaker 4: Because there have been monks that are been walking from
Speaker 4: Texas and they're walking to DC on a peace walk, right,
Speaker 4: and then there's all these people that know where their
Speaker 4: journey is.
Speaker 1: They're following them on a website.
Speaker 4: And they've got this cute dog, which you would love,
Speaker 4: a looca who they found in another country and now
Speaker 4: he's in the United States and he's walking with them
Speaker 4: as well, and they have support vehicles and things like that.
Speaker 4: Two of them actually got hit by a car and
Speaker 4: one of them lost half their leg and they're still
Speaker 4: on the walk.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's he lost his leg and they sowed
Speaker 3: him up and he's met the monks walking.
Speaker 4: In a wheelchair and they all paid respect because he, yes.
Speaker 2: Took the hit forever. Yes literally it is.
Speaker 1: It's literally, yes he did.
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful thing and a lot of people are
Speaker 4: affected by it, myself included, because to see these to
Speaker 4: see these beautiful walking for so many days, so many hours,
Speaker 4: and and being treated with such grace and respect because
Speaker 4: they were walking for peaces is lovely.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 2: Do you think it's gonna do any good?
Speaker 9: Though?
Speaker 2: Does it make any.
Speaker 1: Does to me? It makes difference to me.
Speaker 2: But you're not wreaking havoc anyway. You're not at war.
Speaker 3: I mean, whoever's fighting wars now or not going? You know,
Speaker 3: those monks in the States on foot I lost a leg.
Speaker 2: You serious?
Speaker 3: They found a dog and they're all rolling around. I
Speaker 3: don't know that they're going to go and respectfully, I
Speaker 3: mean I respect that the protest or the peaceful effort
Speaker 3: to raise awareness and bring good to the world.
Speaker 1: Here's where I think it'll make a difference. You just
Speaker 1: asked me that question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so parents, parents are pulling their kids and waiting
Speaker 4: for the monks, and they're in there, and they're saying,
Speaker 4: look at this is a once in a lifetime Say,
Speaker 4: have you ever met a monk in person?
Speaker 2: Once?
Speaker 1: You did?
Speaker 3: I never have. I've never met a monk. They were
Speaker 3: on campus when I was at school at Wright State.
Speaker 3: I don't know what they were doing. I came through,
Speaker 3: we nodded, and I was onto class or went to sleep.
Speaker 4: Okay, did you feel a certain Oh so you've never
Speaker 4: really met.
Speaker 2: Them, you've sing it down and talk well, but he
Speaker 2: had the monk gear on, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, yes, living the monk life. But what I'm
Speaker 4: saying is there's a different level of energy they exue. Okay,
Speaker 4: So parents are actually bringing their kids to meet them,
Speaker 4: and and and and show them. Hey, this is a
Speaker 4: once in a lifetime thing. And I don't think those
Speaker 4: kids are ever going to forget it.
Speaker 3: I would hope they don't. I mean, it's a wonderful thing,
Speaker 3: and I appreciate that. I just don't know. I mean,
Speaker 3: maybe good for those kids and so forth, But I
Speaker 3: don't think any warring parties at this point go. You know,
Speaker 3: we were gonna blow up more stuff, but those damn
Speaker 3: monks in the States have really made us revalue me.
Speaker 1: Maybe there will be one.
Speaker 3: First, let's take a day off. You're eleven o'clock report
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Speaker 3: Hopefully a good Friday for you guys. Lots of stuff
Speaker 3: in the news, everything else going on, and a little
Speaker 3: bit later we'll talk on Bengals and so forth. And
Speaker 3: you're an animal lover. We try to have Cincinnati Animal
Speaker 3: Care on pretty regularly, try to help those in need
Speaker 3: with fostering, adoption, spang nootering, know all and sort of
Speaker 3: been that Bob Barker mode and so forth. You're fostering
Speaker 3: a dog right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a Stage five clinger.
Speaker 4: I mean he is literally you know, I can't go anywhere.
Speaker 4: So it's funny, Sterling, because I've never had a dog
Speaker 4: like this before. He's so sweet and I mean, this
Speaker 4: dog like looks right into my eyes. He's just he's bold,
Speaker 4: and he's fun and he's just he's crazy. He's not
Speaker 4: even a year old. But I started looking into his
Speaker 4: personality and what it means, and I found this really
Speaker 4: cool study about like the four signs.
Speaker 1: That your dog loves you.
Speaker 4: And they do these four things on a daily basis,
Speaker 4: and you might construe them is something different like clingy
Speaker 4: and you know, attachment issues and things like that. But
Speaker 4: these are actually and it makes sense to me. Four
Speaker 4: signs that your dog's things that they do every single day,
Speaker 4: little tiny signs that show you that they love you.
Speaker 4: And I thought this was so cute because you're a
Speaker 4: dog lover toos. So let's see if these crazy your
Speaker 4: dog crazy is on the list of things that he does.
Speaker 4: The first sign that your dog loves you these little
Speaker 4: tiny signs that they do every day when they follow
Speaker 4: you everywhere. They say, it's not attachment, it's safety. So
Speaker 4: the dog feels like, as long as I'm near you,
Speaker 4: I'm okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, does crazy do that?
Speaker 2: He does?
Speaker 3: But see he's in a weird place right now, and
Speaker 3: that donnad I think he's testing me. It's like adolescents.
Speaker 3: He acts like he wants to be close, but really
Speaker 3: he wants to like find a way to steal cat
Speaker 3: food or whatever else. He's constantly testing. But yeah, he
Speaker 3: does follow me.
Speaker 1: All yeah, it's so cute. All right.
Speaker 4: So number two sign when your dog brings you like
Speaker 4: these random items like socks or they're toys, it means
Speaker 4: that you know, they share what they value most with
Speaker 4: the person they love. So this you know, my foster
Speaker 4: dog Gus, he has this blue ball and he puts
Speaker 4: it in his mouth.
Speaker 1: It is a giant ball and.
Speaker 3: He already has a huge head. His body is his head,
Speaker 3: yes exactly. He weighs forty two pounds and twenty of
Speaker 3: it is his head and he's got this giant mouth.
Speaker 3: This is the biggest ball.
Speaker 4: He doesn't want to give it up at all, but
Speaker 4: he brings it to me all the time. It is
Speaker 4: really lays on my lap. Yeah, he loves with this
Speaker 4: ball in his mouth.
Speaker 3: So knows you saved him. He's all like, you know,
Speaker 3: and he wants to stay like, hey, he does. You
Speaker 3: haven't had like a ceremony a fool on a dophin, right,
Speaker 3: you're still just he knows.
Speaker 4: I have co fosters that when I travel, they're going
Speaker 4: to take them and it's great.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: Number three, when they lean on you or press into
Speaker 4: your leg, that's comforting for them.
Speaker 1: That's that's your home to them.
Speaker 4: So that's when they you know, they lean into your leg,
Speaker 4: it's kind of like giving you a hug.
Speaker 3: It's fine when they're small, but when they're you know,
Speaker 3: seventy eighty pounds dog, or when you're trying to work,
Speaker 3: like when I work at home lot all of the
Speaker 3: time and the dog on my foot wants to be
Speaker 3: Can I get in the chair? No, there's no room
Speaker 3: for you in the chair. So that's love, it's not
Speaker 3: it's love. It's a sign that they love you. And
Speaker 3: the forest sign is when they sit near you quietly.
Speaker 3: It's a sign of loyalty. It's love without conditions and.
Speaker 4: Making sure that you're safe, right, So they're just kind
Speaker 4: of keeping guard. There was there was a time where
Speaker 4: I have doggy door, and the first couple of weeks
Speaker 4: this my foster dog Gus would get up like forty
Speaker 4: times in the middle of the night, go out the
Speaker 4: doggy door and then jump back on him. I literally
Speaker 4: put in chat GPT what does this mean? And I
Speaker 4: came and it was him checking the house. He was
Speaker 4: on patrol. He was on patrol, so I had to
Speaker 4: block the doggie door at night so that he could rest.
Speaker 4: And it's a time for him to get off patrolling
Speaker 4: the house. He could rest and let it go. I
Speaker 4: actually had a conversation. You had a conversation with him,
Speaker 4: and they said you can rest. It's okay, this is
Speaker 4: time to sleep. You don't have to be on patrol
Speaker 4: and watch the house.
Speaker 1: And it worked. You never did it again after.
Speaker 3: A You talked to him a lot. I talked to
Speaker 3: that dog all the time. Yeah, so I'm not the
Speaker 3: do you talk like? I mean, what kind of conversations
Speaker 3: do you have with the dog? I mean, I mean
Speaker 3: it's just about his behaviors? What's going on? Do you
Speaker 3: have like philosophical questions? What do you do when you
Speaker 3: talk to you? I talked to my dog when I
Speaker 3: walk the dog, and I think people see it and
Speaker 3: they don't know if I have an ear button I'm
Speaker 3: on the phone, or if the me and they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's that guy again.
Speaker 4: Well, I think they like the tone of your voice
Speaker 4: and they like to know that they're paying you're paying
Speaker 4: attention to them. So I'll just did you like your
Speaker 4: dinner last night?
Speaker 1: Was it good? And a waggis tail? And are you
Speaker 1: ready to get some sleep? But you feel good? You know?
Speaker 4: I put before I left for the station, I put
Speaker 4: him in his little area and I'll be right back.
Speaker 4: Here's your bone, here's your water, here's your this, here's
Speaker 4: your that, so yeah, I think it's like, you know,
Speaker 4: just because they can't talk back to you doesn't mean
Speaker 4: there's a million benefits too. And we're not here to promote.
Speaker 4: But I always love Cincinnati Animal Care. They do some
Speaker 4: great work in this industry. And if you want to foster,
Speaker 4: go on the website it may They make it so easy.
Speaker 4: And if you want to adopt a dog, it is
Speaker 4: so great to do that. But one of the other
Speaker 4: benefits I want to talk about in fostering and adopting
Speaker 4: and having a dog is when you walk them.
Speaker 1: Dog Owners walk.
Speaker 4: We walk an average of three thousand steps more than
Speaker 4: non dog walkers a day, so you will get an
Speaker 4: average of three thousand And I think one of the
Speaker 4: greatest exercises, and I've been a yoga instruccher for a
Speaker 4: long time, walking is one of the greatest moving your body.
Speaker 1: Running is great.
Speaker 4: Walking everyone can do and you know, ten thousand steps
Speaker 4: a day is great.
Speaker 3: Certainly attainable with my dog. I gotta say Sterling and Donade.
Speaker 3: By the way, in for Scott Sloane, He's enjoying a
Speaker 3: Friday off, hopefully and enjoying it anyway. Hopefully you are
Speaker 3: too appreciate you being along my dog. We walk a lot,
Speaker 3: but I don't know what I'm getting out of it.
Speaker 3: First of all, he's like fifteen pounds right, and his
Speaker 3: legs are short, but he tends to walk at a
Speaker 3: quick clip. We do three, maybe four or five miles
Speaker 3: a day. He likes this warmer weather. He's loving it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a tiring thing for me, although I like the
Speaker 3: warm But my problem is he's got to stop and
Speaker 3: get his sniffs in, and then he's got to hike
Speaker 3: his leg on every random shrub and bush and light
Speaker 3: post and everything else that goes along with it. So
Speaker 3: I'm not really getting the benefit of the walk. We're
Speaker 3: not really walking like you know, if I was at
Speaker 3: with the mall walkers wherever you know, Kenwood Town Center
Speaker 3: or wherever else, I would. But you can't just drag
Speaker 3: him along. No, it's his walk. It's it's not for me.
Speaker 3: It's for him.
Speaker 4: Well it is, but it can be for both of
Speaker 4: you because even if you're outside.
Speaker 1: But yes, I do understand that.
Speaker 4: It's like my sister calls it their social media where
Speaker 4: they get to like sniff and look and say hi,
Speaker 4: and you're under the blue sky and everything else. But
Speaker 4: you are out in nature, so it's kind of a
Speaker 4: big deal too, and you are still getting steps in
Speaker 4: even though it might not be the normal kind when
Speaker 4: you're walking by yourself.
Speaker 3: Do you do you think you have a good understanding
Speaker 3: of what Gus or any other dog that you've had,
Speaker 3: like Puka, what have you, and what they mean with
Speaker 3: the barks, like some stuff is obvious. Yeah, right, But
Speaker 3: my dog's a Schnauzer.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I did not go hunting for him. I found him.
Speaker 3: He was a street dog. And I don't know that
Speaker 3: I really want to know what he's saying. Is incessant barking.
Speaker 3: He's bred to bark, and at times I can tell
Speaker 3: he's frustrated for to tell me what he wants me
Speaker 3: to understand, and I have no clue that. On the
Speaker 3: other hand, I don't know that I want to know
Speaker 3: what he's saying.
Speaker 4: Well, if I if I could figure out what any
Speaker 4: dog is saying, I would love to speak animal. I
Speaker 4: would love to be able to decipher what animals are saying.
Speaker 4: But this one ironically doesn't bark that much. It's his
Speaker 4: saving grace. I will tell you that he is he is.
Speaker 4: He barks when he hears a noise, that's pretty much it.
Speaker 3: Does everyone talk to their pets? I mean, like around
Speaker 3: the house, Like, here's the thing, are you talking to yourself?
Speaker 2: Are you talking? I'm just talking to the dog.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if it's any either way better
Speaker 3: if you're just randomly walking and talking to yourself and muttering,
Speaker 3: And what's the difference, really, I mean, if I'm just
Speaker 3: in the neighborhood on my own walking, like I just
Speaker 3: trying to get my steps for some reason, I just
Speaker 3: getting steps and I'm and I don't have an earbud in.
Speaker 3: I'm not talking to you or somebody else. I'm just
Speaker 3: the weird guy in the neighborhood talking to himself when
Speaker 3: people are going to start watching.
Speaker 2: I mean, does everyone talk to their dog?
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I will say when when I'm
Speaker 4: out walking and I run into another human that has
Speaker 4: a dog, usually most people will talk to the dog
Speaker 4: instead of the other person.
Speaker 3: No neighbor's dog names and not neighbors names exactly.
Speaker 4: So I mean, I do think I don't know why
Speaker 4: it's a comforting thing to like you, Oh, look.
Speaker 1: How cute you are.
Speaker 4: Look at your scarf, Look at your cute little jacket
Speaker 4: that you have on.
Speaker 1: Most people talk to Gus more than me. It's just
Speaker 1: so funny.
Speaker 4: I just think it's a comforting thing for people like
Speaker 4: to talk to the animals. But I mean, i'd like
Speaker 4: to think that people talk to their dogs.
Speaker 3: Well, we can't be two crazy people compared to everyone
Speaker 3: else and we don't meet. Mental health is a serious issue, okay, problem, please,
Speaker 3: all right, But I mean I can't just be the
Speaker 3: two of us five one, three, seven hundred, the big one.
Speaker 3: Do you notice these signs that Donna mentioned about your
Speaker 3: dog loving you? Are you talking to your pa? Do
Speaker 3: you have conversations? Is it just you talking to yourself?
Speaker 3: Are we crazy people?
Speaker 2: I have many questions.
Speaker 3: I'm looking for answers to let's get to ed and
Speaker 3: Springfield with Stirling and Donnade, and for Sloany on a Friday?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 5: Ed?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 5: How you doing good?
Speaker 2: Good? What's up?
Speaker 15: Okay? Well, I'm just said I've had several dogs. Actually
Speaker 15: all of them are named after football players, so I'm
Speaker 15: kind of weird. But absolutely I talked. I talked to
Speaker 15: my dogs. They give me better answers than my kids do.
Speaker 15: So I mean I got right now, right now I
Speaker 15: got a black and tan hound. I had to put
Speaker 15: two of the other ones down, so I also got
Speaker 15: a carrier boxer mix and my hound. Nobody can walk
Speaker 15: past the front of my house without him letting me
Speaker 15: know somebody's on the sidewalk. And originally I got he
Speaker 15: had a brother, and I got the brother as well,
Speaker 15: but he had to be put down because I work
Speaker 15: at night, and I left my wife and my two.
Speaker 9: Children at home.
Speaker 15: And I'm like, if anybody's stupid enough to try to
Speaker 15: with these dogs going nuts, But they make sense if you,
Speaker 15: if you understand what they're doing. My dog tells me
Speaker 15: things like what like like what, I'm not like a
Speaker 15: dog whisper right now. We found out a couple of
Speaker 15: days ago he's got diabetes, which is unfortunate when he
Speaker 15: needs his shot.
Speaker 10: For his food.
Speaker 15: It's a different thing. It's not he doesn't come in
Speaker 15: there and just spark in our face. He does like
Speaker 15: a moan, like a whine, like hey, I'm not feeling
Speaker 15: so good. You need to get up and help me
Speaker 15: because it can be in the middle of the night. Sure,
Speaker 15: So you just have to You have to learn how
Speaker 15: to what do they call that? Well, read them or
Speaker 15: translate whatever they're saying. But all my dogs talk to me.
Speaker 15: I can talk to the one dog right now. If
Speaker 15: I'm making noise, he makes a noise back, and it's
Speaker 15: just a game.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 15: And like I said, we got a tattoo and the cat.
Speaker 15: You know, the cat just does his thing. He comes
Speaker 15: around when he wants to be headed, but other than that,
Speaker 15: he just does his own thing. But absolutely dogs talk.
Speaker 5: They talk to you.
Speaker 15: Just you gotta sit down and listen to him and
Speaker 15: figure out what's going on.
Speaker 5: You got dog. That's the reason why department.
Speaker 15: And the one the other. The one other thing is
Speaker 15: I was totally against cages when I had my first
Speaker 15: dog when I was a young kid. But when me
Speaker 15: and my wife got married, they suggest that we do
Speaker 15: cages because that lets the dogs know that it's their
Speaker 15: time off. They're off duties. Yeah, they're off duty, so
Speaker 15: they can go to sleep. They don't have to worry
Speaker 15: about anything. And now he here's a noise, he's gonna
Speaker 15: probably rip the cage. It lets him know that there's
Speaker 15: nothing to worry about right now.
Speaker 5: Like everything's good.
Speaker 15: We're all going to sleep. Go in there and lay
Speaker 15: on your little patted dead and the thing now, we
Speaker 15: only put one of them in there now, but the
Speaker 15: other one's growing up that he Actually, I don't want
Speaker 15: to say somebody sleeps in the bed.
Speaker 3: With us for me, my ex I mean it was
Speaker 3: it was a menager and I appreciate the call me
Speaker 3: and thank you for sharing that too. And I know
Speaker 3: we're not the only ones, but we'd have like two
Speaker 3: three dogs to be a cat. And the only thing
Speaker 3: that wasn't in the bed was the turtle. Thank God
Speaker 3: for that. To Levin and Lynn was sterling and Donna
Speaker 3: die on the big one. Do you talk to your
Speaker 3: pets and how often? What kind of conversations do you have?
Speaker 16: Oh my gosh, the talking to the pet is routine
Speaker 16: because now the pets the.
Speaker 9: Dog, our dog expects the talk.
Speaker 16: Yes, yeah, I mean she's a.
Speaker 5: Routine on her talking.
Speaker 16: Every time I come down in the morning, you know
Speaker 16: she's there and rah rah. But no, I told you,
Speaker 16: I used to be a dog warden and I've probably
Speaker 16: had fifty dogs and now I'm down to one dog,
Speaker 16: which is hard, but you get to the point you
Speaker 16: have to downsize. But I carry on conversations with my dogs,
Speaker 16: and I think, oh, gosh, people around me must think
Speaker 16: I'm crazy, and oh gosh, so because my dog is
Speaker 16: the smartest.
Speaker 2: Person in the room. They are most of the time.
Speaker 3: They're limited, but they're just at a base level where
Speaker 3: if you just live more like a dog, I think
Speaker 3: we'd all be better off.
Speaker 1: Dogs and the best, aren't they, Len They are.
Speaker 10: Donna, they are.
Speaker 16: And I have just recently started going to shelters to
Speaker 16: walk dogs. You're talking about what the dogs need to
Speaker 16: be walked?
Speaker 1: Yeah, hard.
Speaker 3: It gives them a break, doesn't it, So they can
Speaker 3: decompress a little bit and feel a little normalcy with
Speaker 3: humans too, which helps them.
Speaker 2: Maybe.
Speaker 3: On the other side, find someone who you know sees
Speaker 3: them is a more I guess, viable candidate to take home.
Speaker 16: Yes, Sterling, that's for sure. And Donna, thank you so
Speaker 16: much for everything.
Speaker 6: That you do.
Speaker 16: I really really appreciate people like you like, thank you
Speaker 16: for have thank you for having her on.
Speaker 3: Well, well, yeah, we're working together. We're working together all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, and thank you for.
Speaker 3: Showing up and lynn all of us as we talk
Speaker 3: to our But you know what I'd like to get
Speaker 3: someone in answer for this. My dog will not eat
Speaker 3: his food unless I'm there, or he had or I
Speaker 3: have to be gone for like I if I'm out
Speaker 3: of town or you know, I'm gone for a couple
Speaker 3: of days and he's staying with someone else. I mean
Speaker 3: he like waits till desperation to eat his food. But
Speaker 3: if I leave the room and he thinks or he
Speaker 3: has any inkling that he can go hijack the cat's food,
Speaker 3: whether he has to climb up on a table, I
Speaker 3: mean he has to like navigate his way up and
Speaker 3: over a gate. He will do that he can't get
Speaker 3: back over. But he won't eat the dog food alone.
Speaker 3: He'll eat the cat food all day long because he's
Speaker 3: histing it.
Speaker 4: That is crazy, crazy, Yeah, So put that in chat
Speaker 4: shept and they'll give you an answer.
Speaker 3: I mean it, I don't think the a I can.
Speaker 4: Try it, I'm telling you, but that is interesting. I
Speaker 4: mean the dog when I put the well, he's only
Speaker 4: he's not even here. How old is crazy?
Speaker 2: It's like ten.
Speaker 6: There.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this one's up, you know, not even a year.
Speaker 4: So he's got the puppy energy and so anytime I
Speaker 4: put anything in his bowl, it's gone within seconds.
Speaker 1: I mean literally, I'm like.
Speaker 4: Can you slow it? Down, you're gonna get digestive issues.
Speaker 4: I mean, he eats it so fast. It's crazy that
Speaker 4: your dog waits for you to be there.
Speaker 2: It's weird. It's interesting and it makes me feel better.
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, you didn't eat. I'm like, well, I
Speaker 3: don't know what to tell you. Is he okay? No,
Speaker 3: he just doesn't like it. As if you have cat food,
Speaker 3: you have a cat, just leave the cat food down.
Speaker 3: He'll leave the cat food, yeah, which is horrible for them,
Speaker 3: their kidneys and all that. But it's just a strange thing.
Speaker 3: Five point three seven four nine seven eight hundred the
Speaker 3: big one. Uh do you talk to your pets? It's
Speaker 3: just a very strange issue, and I want to I
Speaker 3: had a couple of people remark to me on social
Speaker 3: about my comments about the monks. I respect the monks.
Speaker 3: I have an admiration for the monks. I wasn't attacking
Speaker 3: the walking monks. I was just simply saying, Unfortunately, I
Speaker 3: don't believe that the attention drawn and the harm that
Speaker 3: came the way of the one guy who lost one
Speaker 3: of his legs in part because someone went around the
Speaker 3: safety vehicle, which is a problem for anyone on the
Speaker 3: side of the interstate, let alone working on the highway
Speaker 3: like for O Dot or something like that. That's how
Speaker 3: that accident happened with him. I just don't respectfully believe
Speaker 3: that those who are in the business of executing wars
Speaker 3: are going, you know, those monks in the States walking
Speaker 3: you know, from Texas to DC like two thousand miles
Speaker 3: or whatever it is. We should put our arms down
Speaker 3: and stop the bombing. I just don't think that that's
Speaker 3: the you know, the benefit that comes from it. Everyone
Speaker 3: else being thoughtful of them and respecting them is what
Speaker 3: comes of that.
Speaker 2: That's all I meant by that.
Speaker 1: No, and I know I know we're not again, No,
Speaker 1: of course not.
Speaker 2: But that's a whole other story.
Speaker 4: No, but you know, when I teach YOUO guy, I
Speaker 4: always talk about if Earth piece through self peace, So
Speaker 4: if you can even if and we're maybe they're not
Speaker 4: trying to get to the highest powers who create wars
Speaker 4: and things like that, but each individual, like if I
Speaker 4: think what happens is when we demand certain things from
Speaker 4: our politicians, even though it's kind of been ignored a
Speaker 4: little bit that but if we are become peaceful within ourselves,
Speaker 4: it kind of spreads.
Speaker 1: That's where they're looking to.
Speaker 4: So if they can touch one person and another person
Speaker 4: can be peaceful in their community and their home and
Speaker 4: their environment, then it just kind of spreads.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: Eleven third reports coming up sooner than later and updated
Speaker 3: on what's going on all over the place, whether it's
Speaker 3: what's gone down in Minneapolis to Portland, Oregon, to issues
Speaker 3: here that are sort of bewildering too. Talking about the
Speaker 3: allegation of perhaps maybe a settlement being worked on in
Speaker 3: some fashion for the hinting shooting situation with the fleeing
Speaker 3: suspect and that car heist, and then of course his
Speaker 3: father's ran down Deputy sheriff on detail work after that,
Speaker 3: clearly in retaliation. So all those news stories and other
Speaker 3: stuff going on straight away. We're back together again on
Speaker 3: Sunday afternoon too, right.
Speaker 1: Yes, we are twelve to three big big games on Sunday.
Speaker 3: Tak a lot of NFL football this weekend playoffs sans Bengals,
Speaker 3: but Duke Tobin's going to be speaking publicly about the
Speaker 3: Bengals and their plans, and he does not speak to
Speaker 3: the public very often, so we'll dive into that after
Speaker 3: you're eleven third of your port and a whole lot
Speaker 3: more to do, having some fun for sloaning on a
Speaker 3: Friday at Sterling and Donnade on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: Scott Sloan Show for a Friday. He's not here.
Speaker 3: It's ut me Sterling and Austin Omar. People like to
Speaker 3: call him Audi hearing the team hearing about since he
Speaker 3: three sixty with Tony Pike and everything else.
Speaker 2: Man, how are you? I'm great, Sterling?
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 2: In a while since we've talked on the air.
Speaker 3: It has been I see you all the time, it
Speaker 3: seems like, but don't get a chance to do this
Speaker 3: with you. So I appreciate you coming in. I know
Speaker 3: you got other stuff going. I don't know that the
Speaker 3: earth has spun off its axis at this point, there
Speaker 3: is a scheduled appearance Duke Tobin. I realize publicly he
Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily say a lot to us regular people. How
Speaker 3: big of a deal is this? What does this really mean?
Speaker 3: Is there going to be a change in Bengals planning
Speaker 3: or is this what we're riding with until the end.
Speaker 14: I don't know that this is an earth shattering thing.
Speaker 14: I think it's being a little bit overhyped. Some have
Speaker 14: described this to me privately as like, this is the
Speaker 14: equivalent of a playoff game for Bengals fans. They didn't
Speaker 14: make the playoffs this year, so at least we get
Speaker 14: to finally hear from Duke Tobin.
Speaker 2: Wowkay, Duke rarely speaks.
Speaker 14: He speaks at the combine, he speaks before the season,
Speaker 14: and that's pretty much it. And there is just a
Speaker 14: lack of transparency around him and his position, and it's
Speaker 14: been that way for the last twenty years, since he's
Speaker 14: been in this role more than twenty year, And so
Speaker 14: I think it is a good deviation from the established
Speaker 14: norm to have the general manager de facto general manager
Speaker 14: talk after the season in which you failed again and
Speaker 14: a season in which he was mentioned in the postseason
Speaker 14: statement by Mike Brown, and a season in which he
Speaker 14: was under more criticism than he's ever been at any
Speaker 14: point in his career.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that makes sense now. A lot of
Speaker 3: people that I've talked to, even though Joe's toe is heeled,
Speaker 3: Joe came back, he seemed healthy, got it together, they
Speaker 3: got strung together some wins. We saw a little bit
Speaker 3: more of what we expected this Bengals team to be.
Speaker 3: We know the depth of the arsenal and weaponry on
Speaker 3: the offense. The defense seemed to grow a little bit. However,
Speaker 3: expectations and the idea well another season without a post
Speaker 3: the playoff of appearance, there were extenuating circumstances. People go,
Speaker 3: what about Zach Taylor? Why is he still here? Burrows
Speaker 3: a fan? Is that the only reason he's here? I
Speaker 3: think I don't know if it's the only reason. I
Speaker 3: think it's a big reason. I think that means a lot.
Speaker 3: And Joe, in his opinion, carries weight to the Bengals,
Speaker 3: and I think it should absolutely. I don't know that
Speaker 3: they should do everything that he says that I think
Speaker 3: is a slippery slope. And Burrow has acknowledged that he's like,
Speaker 3: I don't want to be the GM. I don't want
Speaker 3: to be the guy scouting like. I'll share my opinion,
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I think, but I don't know
Speaker 3: that I should be the chief decision maker.
Speaker 2: And I think that's fair.
Speaker 14: But I think it's It means a lot to the
Speaker 14: organization to have a coach who is liked and respected
Speaker 14: by his quarterback, and offensively, when you look at the
Speaker 14: foundation that they have, which is they're going to have
Speaker 14: ten of their starters coming back on offense already, guys
Speaker 14: that are already under contract, and you would expect them
Speaker 14: to be able to get that other position, a right
Speaker 14: guard position, done relatively quickly and build some of the depth.
Speaker 14: And Zach is an offensive minded coach, and the offense
Speaker 14: really hasn't been the problem for the better part of
Speaker 14: the the last three or four years. It's been injuries
Speaker 14: and defense, and I think it's fair not to blame
Speaker 14: Zach for all the issues. Now, z that can be better.
Speaker 14: I think procedurally he can be a lot better. I
Speaker 14: think he should consider giving up the play calling and
Speaker 14: being more of a CEO style head coach on game days.
Speaker 14: But he still has two years left on his contract,
Speaker 14: and whether you like it or not, the Bengals typically
Speaker 14: don't pay coaches not to coach for them, and so
Speaker 14: I think with Zach having two years left on his deal,
Speaker 14: most of his assistants having one year left on a deal.
Speaker 14: With the inclusion of Duke and Zach in the statement
Speaker 14: by Mike Brown, I think it kind of says this
Speaker 14: upcoming season is make it or break it.
Speaker 3: Speaking of others on staff still with contractual obligations and
Speaker 3: expected to stay where it is. Of course, Dan Pitcher
Speaker 3: and is interviewing elsewhere for a head coaching job. What
Speaker 3: does that say about where the Bengals stand and who's
Speaker 3: next up if he in fact bounces elsewhere.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think it is confirmation of the idea that
Speaker 14: Zach Taylor and his offense and the way that they
Speaker 14: developed players on offense specifically works and is respected by
Speaker 14: other teams across the league. Now Dan Pitcher is interviewing
Speaker 14: with the Cleveland Browns, there's a connection there. Dan came
Speaker 14: up with the Indianapolis Colts, Andrew Berry was with the
Speaker 14: Indianapolis Colts. He's now the GM of the Browns. That's
Speaker 14: a very strong candidate. I would not like it if
Speaker 14: Dan Pitcher goes to the Cleveland Browns, just because I
Speaker 14: think he's a really good football coach. I think he
Speaker 14: has a very clear intimate understanding of the AFC North
Speaker 14: and would clearly understand the Bengals. I don't think that
Speaker 14: would be a good thing for them. I want Dan
Speaker 14: to succeed. I would like it to be anywhere but
Speaker 14: the Cleveland Browns, to be completely honest. But if he
Speaker 14: were to go, there are a couple of guys, Number one,
Speaker 14: Brad Cragthorpe and Justin Roscotti. Those are past game coordinator
Speaker 14: and quarterbacks coach or vice versa. Those two are our
Speaker 14: up and coming stars in the coaching realm. They've been here.
Speaker 14: Brad Cragthorpe's been here for a long time. Was actually
Speaker 14: with Joe Burrow for a year at LSU, and so
Speaker 14: there's a lot of connection there. And then Justin Roscotti
Speaker 14: came over last year from Minnesota. He's got some experience
Speaker 14: in Kevin O'Connell's offense and helped kind of unlock that
Speaker 14: next level of Jamar Chase. I think those two would
Speaker 14: be the possible connection of offensive coordinator, and the other
Speaker 14: one would be Brian Callahan, who was the offensive coordinator
Speaker 14: here of course when they went to the Super Bowl
Speaker 14: and was just fired as the Tennessee Titans head coach.
Speaker 3: Talking to Austin Elmore if you didn't already know ESPN
Speaker 3: or since the three sixty he's got with Tony pikel
Speaker 3: later on, that's what he does.
Speaker 2: It mean.
Speaker 3: It's great to hear any talking to you. This is just fantastic.
Speaker 3: I'm enjoying it. There's a couple things here. Firstly, it
Speaker 3: is a complication of success and surrounding yourself with good talent.
Speaker 3: When you see that talent bubbling up and being looked
Speaker 3: at with opportunities outside, you kind of want that, but
Speaker 3: you would like to be able to think that you
Speaker 3: can keep it together here with a window. And people
Speaker 3: have used the term open window for so long too much,
Speaker 3: but that window is shrinking for this Trangles team and
Speaker 3: trying to get to the playoffs and hopefully making runs
Speaker 3: regular runs there with you know, Joe Burrow in the
Speaker 3: age he's currently in Austin. What I'm wondering is this,
Speaker 3: if they lose someone of that caliber and that level,
Speaker 3: are they able to come in here and keep this
Speaker 3: thing going. Is he a marginal enough player down the
Speaker 3: food chain, if you will, as a coordinator of offense
Speaker 3: to where that hit can be taken and they don't
Speaker 3: stumble too much.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 14: And to be clear, my concern is not with what
Speaker 14: happens to the Bengals, it's what with the Browns. Could
Speaker 14: happen to the Browns getting better?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 14: And I think because of the culture, because of the
Speaker 14: fact that all those players are coming back, because it's
Speaker 14: still Zach Taylor, who is the headman in charge of
Speaker 14: the offense, and you've got all that familiarity and all
Speaker 14: that continuity offensively specific, I don't think it would be
Speaker 14: a significant change. I don't know that they'd be better
Speaker 14: right away. There would be some learning of new styles
Speaker 14: and new communication and all different stuff, but I don't
Speaker 14: think the drop off would be ridiculous for the Bengals offense.
Speaker 3: You know what's interesting to me and I've talked to
Speaker 3: I mean, have some former players, you know, other people
Speaker 3: like you who live and breathe this talking Bengals and
Speaker 3: sports on a daily basis where I live it and
Speaker 3: it's my escape as a fan, not my lifestyle livelihood.
Speaker 3: In this situation, when you look at what they've done
Speaker 3: on the defense and that we did see them get
Speaker 3: better and there were injuries that they had to navigate,
Speaker 3: what's interesting in somewhat bewildering and troubling and probably for
Speaker 3: anyone doing the business that they do, whether it's the
Speaker 3: Bengals or pick an organization. You have draft pick after
Speaker 3: draft pick after draft pick, high end draft picks well
Speaker 3: thought of that either have not developed fast as one
Speaker 3: would have thought, or were not the talents that they
Speaker 3: had thought is it's played out. How much of it
Speaker 3: is bad choices, how much of his failure to develop
Speaker 3: to get where they are with the team that they
Speaker 3: put together.
Speaker 14: That's a great question, and I think it's part of
Speaker 14: the re why Duke Tobin is talking today is because
Speaker 14: he's the guy who's making those selections and it just
Speaker 14: has taken too long for those guys to pan out.
Speaker 14: And you know, last year they kind of used bad
Speaker 14: luck and bad coaching as an excuse, so they got
Speaker 14: rid of lou An Arumo, and you know, in a
Speaker 14: way they were proven right with the way that they
Speaker 14: also fired their defensive line coach and their linebacker coach,
Speaker 14: And in a way they were proven right because all
Speaker 14: of a sudden, the light bulb comes on for Miles Murphy,
Speaker 14: the light bulb comes on for DJ Turner, like there
Speaker 14: actually started to be some development for the young players
Speaker 14: and the defense. The issue is, and going back to
Speaker 14: the window that you mentioned, is you don't have time
Speaker 14: to wait for guys three years into the NFL to
Speaker 14: start having the light bulb come on. You need them
Speaker 14: to come in and contribute right away. And on top
Speaker 14: of that, when you haven't supplemented your roster adequately enough
Speaker 14: with veteran free agents to help the development of those
Speaker 14: young players. It does fall on coaching and the people
Speaker 14: in charge of the personnel, and that would be Duke Tobin.
Speaker 14: So it's not a sexy answer. I'm sitting on the
Speaker 14: fence here, but I do feel like it's a fifty
Speaker 14: to fifty split. You know, the coaches in the front office,
Speaker 14: it doesn't feel like there has been alignment. And I
Speaker 14: think that's part of the reason why Luanna Rumo was fired,
Speaker 14: an alignment between him and the way he wants to
Speaker 14: do things and the way the front office wants to
Speaker 14: do things. Now, defensively, they were still really bad, but
Speaker 14: they changed. They got rid of Mike Hilton, they got
Speaker 14: rid of Von Bell, they got rid of Sam Hubbard.
Speaker 14: They moved on from a bunch of veterans that hogged
Speaker 14: up a bunch of snaps, and they just threw the
Speaker 14: young guys out there and they stunk, and so it backfired.
Speaker 14: And so now, and you mentioned it after the bye week,
Speaker 14: they didn't play the best competition, but they did show
Speaker 14: marginal signs of improvement. Can that be a continuous thing
Speaker 14: into this offseason and can Duke Tobin do the right
Speaker 14: things to surround those young players with the right veteran
Speaker 14: talent so that you can expedite that process a lot quicker.
Speaker 3: Talking to Austin Elmore, he and Tony Pike. Of course,
Speaker 3: Sincy three to sixty sterling in for Scott Sloan's seven
Speaker 3: hundred WLW. So I guess the question is this, we
Speaker 3: have seen the Bengals make splashes on occasion, going out
Speaker 3: and getting a talent that's not too far over the hill,
Speaker 3: or coming in where somebody else couldn't afford him anymore,
Speaker 3: their plans changed or whatever. How many pieces do the
Speaker 3: Bengals need do you think on defense to supplement what
Speaker 3: they've already shown with development to get where they need
Speaker 3: to be to where we're not talking a year from now,
Speaker 3: a better about another team that, if everyone stays healthy,
Speaker 3: maybe still ends up on the outside looking in of
Speaker 3: what looks to be an incredible weekend to playoff football
Speaker 3: Bears and Packers, Panthers, Rams, Jags, Bills, Eagles, forty nine Ers, Patriots, Chargers, Steelers,
Speaker 3: who the Steelers always seem to find a way even
Speaker 3: with the two hundred and fifty year old quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 14: I mean, they haven't won a playoff game in like
Speaker 14: ten years. Though there is some solace. I take some
Speaker 14: solace in that they get there. Mike Tomlin has turned
Speaker 14: into Marvin Lewis, But yeah, it did, it did? I
Speaker 14: think I think they need probably four maybe five guys totally,
Speaker 14: and that can be rookies that you get in the draft,
Speaker 14: and it can be veterans. I think they need probably
Speaker 14: at least two defensive linemen, one on the interior, one
Speaker 14: on the edge. I think they need another linebacker because
Speaker 14: I can't stomach watching those linebackers play again. I think
Speaker 14: you're gonna need a safety. I think you're gonna need
Speaker 14: a replacement corner for Cam Taylor Britt. So you're at
Speaker 14: at least four, maybe five. You could get up to six.
Speaker 14: And they have seventy million dollars to spend. And so
Speaker 14: a lot of people like to dump on the Bengals
Speaker 14: for the way they do contracts and they call them
Speaker 14: cheap and blah blah blah blah blah. Well, one of
Speaker 14: the biggest misnomers out there about the Bengals is that
Speaker 14: they can no longer afford players because they paid Burrow
Speaker 14: Chase and Higgins. That's not true. They have plenty of
Speaker 14: cap space this year. They have plenty of cap space
Speaker 14: next year and the year after that. Number one, because
Speaker 14: they haven't extended some of those young guys because of
Speaker 14: the questions we've talked about. For sure, the cap will
Speaker 14: continue to go up unless there's another global pandemic, and
Speaker 14: who the hell knows it might, but the cap will
Speaker 14: continue to go up. The Bengals do have the ability
Speaker 14: to restructure those contracts to free that up. Like they've
Speaker 14: set themselves up really nicely to keep the window open,
Speaker 14: which means there are no excuses for the offseason. Like
Speaker 14: last year they used bad luck and bad coaching and
Speaker 14: they got one or two veteran guys t J.
Speaker 2: Slaton, Orn Burke's didn't work.
Speaker 14: Can't do that again this year because you need guys
Speaker 14: on that defense, and you have the money to be
Speaker 14: able to spend, and you have a top ten pick
Speaker 14: in every single round.
Speaker 3: That's pretty good, right, Yeah, I mean it's not a
Speaker 3: bad situation. What do you think they'll do?
Speaker 2: Do you?
Speaker 3: I mean, do you personally? Because I know how you are.
Speaker 3: You and Tony are sitting there looking, well, if we
Speaker 3: could get that guy we can pull that guy from
Speaker 3: over there and this guy, So like, who do you
Speaker 3: see who's available? We're a move or you know, it
Speaker 3: wouldn't be too surprising where you could say, okay with
Speaker 3: this makes sense for the Bengal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a good question.
Speaker 14: I don't know if I've allowed myself to get there
Speaker 14: entirely yet, but there are, you know, pass rushers out
Speaker 14: there that I feel like they might have to maybe
Speaker 14: get a little creative. If you think back to the
Speaker 14: twenty one offseason, they signed Trey Hendrickson to a four year,
Speaker 14: sixty million dollar deal.
Speaker 2: He was kind of an.
Speaker 14: Unproven player, but a guy who had been kind of productive.
Speaker 14: Can you find a low level guy like that that
Speaker 14: you are still molding into being a really good pass
Speaker 14: rusher that's going to be opposite of Miles Murphy? Can
Speaker 14: you find one of those guys in the draft as well?
Speaker 14: And I think the interior of their defensive line and
Speaker 14: getting pass rush out of that position, I think we'll
Speaker 14: see Schamar Stewart in there a little bit more. That's
Speaker 14: gonna be one of the outside the box things that
Speaker 14: they do. I think they could draft one right away
Speaker 14: because there's not a deep class of those interior pass rushers.
Speaker 14: Peter Woods is a guy from Clemson who's there that
Speaker 14: you feel I could come in right away and provide
Speaker 14: that type of impact and also help b J. Hill
Speaker 14: to be a more impactful player. The name a lot
Speaker 14: of people want to talk about is Caleb Downs, the
Speaker 14: safety out of Ohio State. And I don't blame you,
Speaker 14: because if you've watched Gino Stone play over the last
Speaker 14: few years, he is legitimately one of the worst players
Speaker 14: who's ever played for the Cincinnati Bengals. That position has
Speaker 14: to get better, and that says a lot. They've been
Speaker 14: around for sixty years and they've had some bad dudes.
Speaker 14: Geno Stone is among the worst who's ever played for
Speaker 14: this organization.
Speaker 2: That has to get fixed.
Speaker 3: You know what's funny to me after all these years,
Speaker 3: and I remember even doing it as a kid, and
Speaker 3: it was not as involved as it is now. Right,
Speaker 3: It is a strange thing for me, and maybe it's
Speaker 3: just the way I was brought up to still regularly
Speaker 3: talk about guys. That guy should be fired and he's
Speaker 3: making too much, and that guy's not making it or
Speaker 3: not they need to call up some cash for him.
Speaker 3: There is no other business hardly at all where we
Speaker 3: talk about people's livelihoods and their families being uprooted.
Speaker 2: He's no good. He's a bumb and you're like, he
Speaker 2: was great a year ago.
Speaker 14: Yeah, And there's always there's always circumstances like behind the
Speaker 14: you know, the curtain that that affect all that. Like
Speaker 14: Nick Scott's a perfect example. He's a part of the
Speaker 14: playoff team in Carolina. Yeah, he was a safety here
Speaker 14: that didn't work out. Come to find out. They asked
Speaker 14: him to switch positions, they asked him to do stuff
Speaker 14: he'd never done before. It just didn't make sense, like,
Speaker 14: and it didn't work for him when they brought him in,
Speaker 14: and so now they're trying to replace him and they
Speaker 14: get a guy like Jordan Battle and blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 14: Just it's a never ending cycle of that. And that's
Speaker 14: the nature of life though too. Yeah, that's the beauty
Speaker 14: of the sport.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 14: No, it's life in general, and life in the National
Speaker 14: Football League especially.
Speaker 3: It's just an odd thing because all of us do
Speaker 3: this and it's been that way for a long time.
Speaker 3: Even my neighbors kids come over and they're telling me
Speaker 3: about budgets, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, you're twelve. What are you doing?
Speaker 14: It's just a I do too, I really do. But
Speaker 14: fantasy football and Madden and all these things. Yes, there's
Speaker 14: so much information out it really is.
Speaker 3: What have I not asked that's in your head right
Speaker 3: now that you and Tony and everybody else have been
Speaker 3: thinking about? You know, as Duke Tobin gets ready to
Speaker 3: step up and talk to the public here, I think
Speaker 3: it's one o'clock this afternoon. Anything else bouncing around? What
Speaker 3: did I not ask? What else is relevant? Are you
Speaker 3: already thinking about the Reds? No, I'm trying not to
Speaker 3: think about the Reds. Really, yeah, I'm this is this
Speaker 3: is not a good thing to admit, but I am
Speaker 3: absolutely dreading this Red season.
Speaker 1: What is wrong with you?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 14: You watched most of those games. You did a lot
Speaker 14: of the pregame shows, that's true. I did a lot
Speaker 14: of the postgame shows. That's true too. That was a
Speaker 14: miserable team to watch. They couldn't score, they didn't steal bases,
Speaker 14: they can't hit. Yeah, how did they not manufacture runs?
Speaker 14: They're in that situation and what have they done? They're
Speaker 14: going to bring back the exact same team so we
Speaker 14: got one hundred and sixty two games and not being
Speaker 14: able to score all over again. And I'm just I'm
Speaker 14: not I'm not there yet. I will be come Opening Day.
Speaker 14: I'll be fired up.
Speaker 3: Reds Fest is like a week away, two weeks away.
Speaker 3: Whatever it is, struggling, I'm struggling. I gotta find it.
Speaker 3: I can feel it, like right now. I know the
Speaker 3: temperatures are dropping through the day, but it kind of
Speaker 3: feels like baseball the weather. I kind of I'm already
Speaker 3: thinking about it.
Speaker 14: Duke Tobin could answer the question of why the Reds
Speaker 14: didn't go get a big off season bat.
Speaker 2: That would be a good question.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be great if you would just fire back
Speaker 3: with that and just completely.
Speaker 2: That'd be tremendous. Man. I just you know what is frustrating.
Speaker 3: And I tell people this is Bengals fans, And there
Speaker 3: were a lot of people who's they they got good
Speaker 3: when Burrow came and were there and got close and
Speaker 3: got to the Super Bowl and didn't quite get it done.
Speaker 3: And I mentioned the better living through lowered expectations. My
Speaker 3: whole career as a human has been living and dying
Speaker 3: with this Bengals football team and coming down with my
Speaker 3: uncle Manny to Old river Front and seeing and then
Speaker 3: you know what was PBS. Uh, you know, and then
Speaker 3: now pay corps and you kind of got there.
Speaker 2: You gotta be better.
Speaker 3: There's got to be more consistent and uh, just as
Speaker 3: they start to get close, I just want to be
Speaker 3: leave that it will be a stretch where they are
Speaker 3: consistently good and it is not just an excuse ridden
Speaker 3: time after.
Speaker 14: I keep telling myself that one of these days it
Speaker 14: will all be worth it. The Bengals winning the Super
Speaker 14: Bowl are one of the great sports stories yet to
Speaker 14: be told. I remind myself of the Chicago Cubs they
Speaker 14: won it in twenty sixteen. Yeah, if the Cubs can
Speaker 14: win the World Series, the Bengals can win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 14: I like the way you think that's well, you just
Speaker 14: do it, like before my dad dies. That's how That's
Speaker 14: how I think about it now. It's like, if my
Speaker 14: dad's like sixty, can we just get this done before
Speaker 14: he goes?
Speaker 2: For all these Dad, that's tremendous. Why not for no
Speaker 2: other reason?
Speaker 3: If not that Austin Elmore with Tony Pike Sincy three sixty,
Speaker 3: ESPN three sixty or fifteen thirty. That's where you are,
Speaker 3: and Sloaney's back Monday. I'm not on to I don't
Speaker 3: know who's doing me and will see how it goes.
Speaker 3: It's all top I don't know me, I don't know
Speaker 3: who's doing me. That's the way that goes. We'll find
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