WEBVTT - 1-9-25 Sterling and Donna D in for Sloan 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.440 Do you want to be an American idiot? 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:10.120 Well, well, well here we are. 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:13.880 It's sterling and Donna Deve for Scott Sloan on a wet, 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:18.760 windy Friday, unusually weather whip lash kind of weekend. Almost 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:20.960 you can almost see and feel the weekend. 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:23.240 Donna, Well, it's warm. 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:26.040 That's really all I care about at this point. It's 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:27.360 sixty two right now. 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:31.760 Holy small, it's bewildering. Up is down, Down is up? 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.160 A light as dark and dark as well light. There's 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:36.360 a lot going on. We have a lot of ground 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:38.880 to cover in a short amount of time. The light stuff, 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:41.360 the good stuff, the fun into the weekend. Kevin Carr, 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:43.760 fat guys at the movies, sober, get go and substack 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:47.199 about ten thirty five, waiting on U see health. We 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:51.519 should have a doctor hopefully depending on availability. Talking about 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.600 issues with the new dietary guidelines and some other stuff 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.480 going on too. But the elephant in the room which 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:59.520 has been all over the news the last couple of 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:03.880 days is the thing in Minneapolis and the shooting with 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:07.560 the woman who was in the suv. In the engagement 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.720 with ICE and other federal authorities as they were working 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:17.040 to handle immigration stuff. There and protests continuing. It's an 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.399 ugly circumstance. I guess the question is because I think 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:21.640 most everyone, even if you've been trying to avoid the 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:26.000 video or just the heaviness of the conversation and what's 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.760 going on, most people have seen the video and have 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.200 an opinion of how that shooting went down. 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.199 Legitimately, maybe not so well. 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:38.360 No, I mean, as anything else in this country right now, 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:45.360 we're super divided in what looks to be either the 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:51.680 renee Nicole Good running down an ICE agent or running 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:55.560 away from that's depending on I mean, there's been probably 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.560 twenty different angles. They've slowed it down, they've sped it up. 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:02.640 There's a ton of different angles for the video, and 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.560 everybody seems to have a different opinion on it. 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.040 I mean, if you're seems. 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:11.560 Pro Ice pro Trump pro, then you're going to see 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.480 that this woman was trying to run down the agent. 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:20.720 If you're not, possibly you're looking at, uh, the woman 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.720 who was trying to flee as the ICE agents approached 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.640 her car and trying to open up her car door. So, 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:31.400 I mean, everybody has an angle and what they see 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.120 about it. It's tragic no matter what happened. 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:36.680 No matter what you view. 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:40.480 As this, it is an awful situation and I really 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.760 hope that this kind of violence doesn't continue. 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.200 Well, there's a couple things. First, I'm surprised we haven't 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:49.720 in a way seen more of it. And you know 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.680 what's bewildering, and you said it at the outset of 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:56.440 your comments is that you can have people look at 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.480 the same exact video at the same time, with the 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:04.720 exact same angles. And as you mentioned, affiliation of party 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:09.560 or support for some authority is somehow how one assesses 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:13.760 a video. And I try to separate myself from any 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.400 position other than looking at the facts of what is 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:20.520 in front of me, and that seems to not necessarily. 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.560 Be possible for a whole lot of people. 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:26.720 Well, I mean, there's going to always be your perceptionist reality. 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:27.840 We say this all the time. 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.840 And if you think you know that that these ICE 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:35.960 agents are shouldn't be on this on the city our 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:41.080 city streets with weaponry like that, or whether you view 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:46.040 them as protecting, uh, the citizens from illegal immigrants that 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:50.320 are dangerous drug dealing and what's the you know, they're 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:54.240 crime written, they're there to protect absolutely. 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:55.960 There has been talk. 0:03:55.880 --> 0:04:01.400 About how the ICE agents there, They're training has been limited, 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:06.600 and the budget is exploded in the hundreds of billions 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.080 of dollars to put these ice agents on the streets. 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:12.760 So you've got these ice agents that aren't as trained 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:16.120 as military and or our officers. And then they've got 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:21.320 this weaponry that you know, is anything that you've seen 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:25.560 in war, almost on our city streets. It's a little 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.760 it can get a little sticky and tricky. 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:35.640 What's interesting is that here in commentary, whether it's Fox 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:40.080 News or ABC or CBS. And I've spent too much 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.600 time in the last couple of days observing all of 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.479 it and watching video and social media and everything else, 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:49.320 and I try to start from just objectivity, but hearing 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:53.880 police trainers, law enforcement, and I don't know how it 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.320 falls if it's a party line thing or otherwise. But 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.320 former one of the former heads of Homeland Security, another 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:03.360 one involved in Justice Department in the past administrations, said 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:11.799 the first shot that that officer fired was justifiable, arguably, 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:13.960 and then the other two is what he would have 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:17.440 to answer for because at that point the threat had stopped. 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.640 And then you know the acceleration, which I think was 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:21.800 after she had already been shot in the head. But 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:23.960 there's a couple of things there. If you're in the 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:25.599 heat of the moment and you're in fear of your life, 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.880 you know, And I'm no police, although I have friends 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:33.479 that are and learn how to shoot. Actually one of 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.520 the county Sheriff's gun ranges years ago, the guy did 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:40.600 a detail work that ran that and what I was 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.400 taught is that you shoot until the threat has stopped. 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:46.680 But the other thing that has come up is the 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:50.159 fact that the discussion has been do you put yourself 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.039 in harm's way by being in front of or behind 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.640 a vehicle that could be moving and targeting you, or 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:57.520 do you stay on the side where you can sort 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.240 of you know, look at that and you can look 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.680 at it in just arguably all the way around. So 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.599 let's open up the phones, because I think it's a 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:08.120 difficult thing for a lot of people. It's a stomach 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:11.960 turning situation. You know, you can support the police and 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.400 still say that maybe that was a fishy shooting. You 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.320 can say it was a justified shooting and still support 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:22.719 you know, civil protests that are non violent, that are 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:27.240 exercising rights and so forth. One of the other things that. 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:28.560 It's really. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:31.800 In a weird thing, and it just came out with 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:35.160 the court decision is saying that these federal authorities dealing 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:40.200 with immigration, border control, ICE, et cetera, in communities around 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:42.960 the country, as they go to enforce and remove people 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:47.800 that are here illegally, apparently now have been given the 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:52.200 okay to not have to visually identify themselves, that they 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:54.760 can continue to wear a mask. And I just have 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.080 to ask this question of just anyone, with all the 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:01.480 talk of the violence and the the unrest and you know, 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.080 people from foreign lands and the dangers that we all 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.600 apparently are navigating on a regular basis, that I don't 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:10.240 really feel unsafe at all, which is really unsettling in 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:15.960 this I really wonder if someone rolls up in you 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:20.640 in your neighborhood, blinking lights on a vehicle or otherwise, 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:24.480 but no other insignias and no identifying, you know, a 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:28.680 badge or identification on uniform or on that vest or 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.360 on that hat, and they're coming up on you. Do 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.000 you try to flee? Do you try to stay? Do 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:35.680 you trust that it's law enforcement? 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:37.480 You know? 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.800 Why are they not working in tandem with local authorities also? 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.240 And in some cases they are, But it becomes a 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.280 very challenging thing for those people on the street doing 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.080 the job and people in the community who are just 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:53.520 trying to live aside from anything that may be interfering 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:55.600 with the the enforcement that's going. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:56.360 On or otherwise. 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.960 And you know, and the whole other thing will get 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.120 into later, which is here locally, Donna, which is the 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:10.000 talk allegedly of apparently conversation of settling with those family 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:13.920 that lost their kid in an officer involved shooting after 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:17.320 they hoisted a car allegedly and had that firearm. So 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:25.400 let's take some calls, give you a chance. Hey, that's Friday, 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:28.080 seven eight hundred, the big one, Sterling and Donnade and 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:32.280 for Scott Sloan, let's get to uh Mark firt and 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.960 we've got Bob first, then Mark and room for you 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:36.760 on seven hundred WLW. 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.640 How you doing, Bob? Hey, good morning? 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:41.080 How are you? 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:42.760 I think I'm all right? What's up? 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:43.480 Good? 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:44.480 Oh? 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.719 This Minneapolis thing, you know, like you said, we all 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.240 got opinions. I just think a lot of you have 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.600 to look back and see the pattern of this uh 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.280 this woman and she was like many you know, she'd 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:59.440 been supposedly following the ice people around throughout the day 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:04.920 carassing them, which that's everybody's right, you know, but was 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:05.760 it justified. 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:06.360 I don't know. 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.439 I mean, it's a fifty deal. I would I would 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:12.800 probably agree and say yes, uh yes. I am a 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:16.360 Trump supporter. He's trying to get these illegals out of 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.040 the country, you know, to save all of US taxpayers 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.720 money and for whatever reason. Uh, there's many in this 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.280 country that want to support that type of activity, you. 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.200 Know, and we're the we're the ones. 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:30.199 That ultimately pay for It's the citizens of the United 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:35.560 States with with tax increases. Minnesota, Somalia's I worked with 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:40.280 Somalia's and uh years ago, I kind of I kind 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.880 of wondered my own you know, the company dealt airlines, 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.240 they support them big time, and they they had more 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:50.280 rights than the US workers. It's it's insane. But I'll 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.400 listen to your comments. I have a great day. 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:53.520 Thank you, Thanks Bob. 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.720 I don't know how anybody has more rights than anybody 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:57.240 else here. 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:02.600 But well, this all you thing in Minnesota is fraud. 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:07.959 I mean it's well, yeah, it's horrible, inexcusable. And what 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:12.319 Bob said too, I don't think anybody wants criminals rolling 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:18.320 roaming streets criminals except for the criminals maybe, but I mean, yeah, so, 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:20.920 I mean I'm all for cleaning up the streets and 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:22.280 getting criminals off too. 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:28.280 Should she be taunting ice agents? Should know? Can there 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.240 be peaceful protests? Yes? 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:32.600 Should she have been shot in the head three times 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:37.440 again trained to stop the threat? But the question is 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.680 was he in harm's way at the time? And that's 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:43.200 for the investigation, and you know, and heat of the moment, 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:47.439 instantaneous situation. I've never had a traumatic experience in the 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:51.560 moment and wonder about my political affiliation or otherwise. If 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.439 I'm afraid for my life, I'm afraid for my life, 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:56.240 and I'm going to defend myself. If I'm looking to 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:57.920 go to the grocery store and get, you know, some 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.760 Greater's Black raspberry chip ice cream, I'm going to go. 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:02.600 I've never gone. What political leanings do to you? 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:02.720 Have? 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:07.760 I like somessert right now? But apparently that is the 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.080 angle in the view by which a lot of people 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.160 navigate everyday life, which is pretty interesting. Mark, you're with 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.560 Stirling and Donna Dee and for Scott Sloan, what about 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:18.880 this Minneapolis thing? We got to Fred and James and 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:19.720 others up after you. 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:23.520 Hey, yeah, thank you for taking my call. I agree 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.080 with Bob, I agree with all the things that you 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.160 have said, but I want to add two words to 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:35.280 this discussion. Ashley Babbitt. Ashley Babbitt was a peaceful protester 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:40.040 on January sixth, two thousand and twenty one, and she 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:43.800 was behind a door and she was shot through that door. 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.600 Here's an Army veteran who was shot through this door, 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:52.600 and the left because they didn't like that protest. Okay, 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.240 that and we're going to know the name of the 0:11:56.280 --> 0:12:01.440 police officer who killed this lady. And Minnie, what was 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.760 the name of the police officer who killed Ashley Babbit 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.000 on January sixth, twenty twenty one? 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:11.679 Are you asking me? I don't know that name right 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:13.160 off the top of my head. I'd have to look 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.560 at it. But here's my question. Identifying the shooter in 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:21.560 this situation. I don't know necessarily is the basis or 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.319 the point of the discussion. But I get what you're 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.480 saying to a point. The only reason we know is 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.719 I understand it in Minneapolis as a result of it 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:30.640 is because he had already been in an engagement where 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.520 he was dragged for some period of time and had 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.319 that arm ripped open to some extent. I think it 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:38.960 was like thirty stitches or something like that. The babbit 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:42.079 thing's a different thing also because they were illegally inside 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:47.160 the capitol and were basically under assault trying to protect lawmakers. 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:49.840 So I think there are some that would argue that 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:52.400 perhaps more force could have been and maybe should have 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:56.239 been used January sixth, compared to obviously a different circumstance 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.920 entirely on the streets of Minneapolis. But I get what 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.880 you're saying, Maury. I appreciate the call of Fred. You're 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:04.120 with Sterling and Donnade and for Scott Sloan on seven 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:05.360 hundred wlw HA. 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.480 Yes Sling, Good morning to you, sir, morning. 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:10.000 How are you? 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:15.680 I just think that we need to adhere to authority. 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:19.839 If you run from a police officer, what's going to 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:23.600 happen to you? But more likely is is you're gonna 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:27.480 get shot. If you're running from a police officer, from authority, 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:31.000 you're gonna get shot. The country doing the hell and 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:32.599 the hand baskets. 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:36.280 Are aren't there like certain parameters though, if you're running 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.720 from police, if you're considered a threat in different authorities, 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:44.120 different jurisdictions, different training. But generally, if someone's in a 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:47.120 vehicle and they're not targeting anyone else, as I understand it, 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.480 in most cases, the idea is they'll get them later, 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.160 they've got a plate, they can pull them over, et cetera. 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.720 In that circumstance, just fleeing from police without there being 0:13:55.720 --> 0:14:00.320 an immediate threat for life in survival or serious harm 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.000 is not quite the same as just fleeing. 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:04.800 Yeah, I think this is a little bit of a 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:08.200 different situation, Fred, but I agree with you that if 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.760 you are running from police, you should adhere to authority. 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:15.120 If someone gets pulled over, you answer the questions the 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.760 officer is asking you. This is a completely different situation. 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:22.160 I think it's a horrible one, it really is, and 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.400 you put those officers that are on the street trying 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.560 to do their job in a bad spot. What I'm 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:30.240 really concerned about is this moves ahead because it's ratcheted up. 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.120 It's not ratcheting down. It's not a de escalation at us. Still, 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.480 what I'm concerned about as well, and I think there 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:37.960 are some people who probably are pretty geeked up and 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.560 excited and may be happy about the fact that things 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:42.720 are a little bit more hostile on our streets and 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.520 in our communities, which is an unfortunate circumstance. 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:47.280 It really is. 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.160 We would hope that we'd be in a better place 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:53.000 rather than a worse place overall. The other thing that's 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:55.080 come up, and a lot of people question, is without 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.560 reviewing the evidence and seeing exactly what had happened, we 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.640 had the president, had the Vice president, who there's been 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:05.000 some conflict about assessment of the situation. There had a 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.440 homeland security as well as she was making her tour, 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.200 and then then up I think she got to Minneapolis too, 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:15.960 that they were already condemning, marginalizing, and somehow framing this 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:19.000 in one way without actually knowing and in fact misstating 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.600 what the video had shown. Regardless of the angle. 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.320 Yeah, I believe Christine nom said she was a domestic 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:29.720 terrorist and President Trump said the officer in question was 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:33.800 in the hospital dealing with injuries from this. So both 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:38.040 of those things like didn't feel good, didn't weigh in 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:39.240 with the community either. 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:42.040 But I mean, it's a real serious situation. I would 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:45.800 hope that most people reasonable and rational would say in 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.160 the middle of a circumstance around you where there's a 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.000 police activity taking place and they're directing you. One would 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:52.760 hope that they're trying to direct you to safety or 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:54.960 out of harms way, unless you're the target, and that 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:56.640 you're going to pay attention to what they say and 0:15:56.680 --> 0:16:00.280 try to avoid the circumstance at all costs to not 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.880 harm law enforcement or interfere with what their official activities are. 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.200 And too, because you want to protect your ass. I mean, 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:07.880 you don't want me to be bad to happen to 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:08.640 you either. 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:13.280 Right, I mean, listen, who knows what, for instance, I 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.640 would have done if I'm in a car and armed, 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:19.240 armed ice agents. 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:20.400 Come over to try and open my door. 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:22.600 There's a there's a certain level of I got to 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.320 get out of here, kind of a thing that takes 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:26.200 over your body. 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:30.120 I would think, So this. 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:34.640 Is just an it's just an uncomfortable situation, and I 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:36.680 think I fear this is going to get worse before 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:37.280 it gets better. 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:38.800 I hope that's not the case. 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.440 It's a it's a it's an ugly circumstance, it really is, 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.760 and we'll see how it plays out. But no one 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:48.359 should be targeting law enforcement, and the worry is, of course. 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:48.600 If. 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.080 If they move ahead with what now the court is 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.120 said they're okay to do. They don't have to have 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.960 any identification, they don't have to necessarily have anything to 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.320 let you know that they or not random hoodlums on 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:05.920 the street. That's going to be confusing for everyday citizens 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.480 looking to defend themselves. That's my concern. 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:11.240 There's no badge number, there's no there's nothing that will 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.880 ident including their you know face masks. 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:15.400 I mean, how do you adhere to that. 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:19.239 It's a tough scenario. Your chance to sound off on this, 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.000 and a whole lot of other ground to cover. We 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.760 got a doctor talking about new dietary guide lanes. Apparently 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.560 the food triangle has been turned upside down. I don't 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:28.680 even know what that means. 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:30.480 I can't wait to hear about that. 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.639 We'll find out what the deal is with that coming 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:36.320 up after ten o'clock when you see health also issues 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.280 with the flu which is still going around. I'm healthy, 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:39.680 I'm fine, I'm hydrating. 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.159 And COVID too few my friends have it. 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.080 Everything's great, everything's just fine. We'll get James as well 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.560 straight away. Your nine thirty report. It's Stirling and Donna 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.760 Dee and the broadcast Sheriff Dave Keaton keeping us on 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.359 time in line as well for Scott Sloan on a 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:57.920 Friday on the Nation station Hall of the Red seven 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:03.360 hundred WLW Scott Sloan Show for a Friday Sansusloany. It's 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:03.960 Stirling and. 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:05.000 Donna d hanging out. 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:08.200 Glad you're along, coming up after ten yet you see 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.800 Health's Family Medicine Doctor Chris lewis gonna join us try 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:16.520 to break down the upside down now a dietary triangle 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:17.320 from the government. 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:19.360 I just remember they taught us all that stuff when 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:19.800 I was a kid. 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.119 No, we grew up on it. 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:25.320 I mean, yeah, ever and all that, and now it's 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.720 it's different. So we'll figure out what the difference means 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.720 if it actually is healthy. Was the other dietary plan 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.080 killing us and we didn't know? Maybe that's why we're 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.480 all fats lost trying to take drugs to get skinny, 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.879 I don't know. And then also an update on the 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.439 flu and every apparently there's a lot of people with 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:42.680 a lot of snot. 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:45.159 But it's true. 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:49.560 No, everybody is so sick this year. It's bizarre, that's 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:51.959 what happens. So you just totally shake it off and 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.400 do well. And Kevin Carr silver Gek on the substack 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:56.479 going to talk new movies and I know, big award 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:58.360 show weekend for those who care about that. I love 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:02.520 movies and stuff, so talk about Yeah, it's a big party. 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:04.560 That's when all those movie types go get liquored up 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.920 and stuff. And then they go on stage and they 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.200 get the speeches, the long speeches. 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.200 Yes, and diatribes about stuff, and then the beginning of 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.160 the week everyone will complain about it will be great. 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:17.159 You know. 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:21.000 Something that is bewildering to me. And with all the 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:23.879 other talks around the country about Minneapolis and Portland and 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:29.840 shootings and immigration stuff. Ken Cobert, who of course is 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:34.480 a FOP president here in town, reports have been this 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:38.960 morning apparently, and I find this difficult to believe, if 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:43.360 for no other reason, it seems unfathomable to me. Donna, 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:48.280 if you remember it's gone back aways now. On the 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:52.480 first of May, there was a shooting involving Cincinnati police 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:56.760 and Ryan Hidden. He was killed by law enforcement a 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:01.920 teenager with a gun, allegedly in a heisted boosted car. 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:04.879 I think that was confirmed, but let's just go with allegations, 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:08.760 I don't need a lawsuit. Fleeing from police and a 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:12.240 law enforcement came up on them, exiting the car with 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:16.800 gun in hand. Law enforcement discharged weapon, defending themselves, and 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:18.560 this young man ended up debt. 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:19.040 We know. 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:22.840 Subsequently, his father, in a fit of rage or crazy, 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:26.159 temporary insanity, whatever it is that the defense attempt is 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:31.720 on this particular situation, went out and effectively targeted around 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:36.960 University of Cincinnati on a detailed duty Hamilton County Deputy 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:41.960 Sheriff Larry Henderson, who ran him down and killed him. 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:45.520 I'm assuming I guess you'd call it retaliation or something, right, 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:50.600 That's what it was. Okay, So the allegation, yeah, and 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.840 he's dealing with that. That's in the courts and being navigated. 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:58.120 But the talk has been that apparently the city, in 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.399 some fashion which they have denied by the way, that 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:05.960 they are working towards a settlement with the family, supposedly 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:08.480 as some type of payoff Ford. This, let me just say, 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:14.520 is horrific, a nightmare scenario, Donna, that that thing happened 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:17.440 on the first of May. You got a car full 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:21.880 of young people in a heisted vehicle, allegedly fleeing from 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:25.239 police in a pursuit in this situation, after they had 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:30.440 been found, then they flee the car, and this kid 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.119 had a weapon in his hand. And if you're in 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.880 law enforcement and you're in that heat of the moment situation, 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:38.840 it looks like a clean shooting, a justifiable shooting in 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:42.439 the defense of oneself. Here, I don't know why anyone 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:46.240 would entertain the idea of paying off the family, as 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:49.080 if somehow it was not a good shooting. And will 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.080 only mean when I say good shooting, not that it 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:53.919 was good that had happened, but it was a justifiable 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:57.760 defense by law enforcement to protect himself others around in 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.679 the community at large. If this person is fleeing in 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:03.359 that situation with a firearm in hand, right. 0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:07.760 Yeah, I mean, and we talked about this. 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:12.760 It's like, Okay, you're you're allegedly in a stalling car, 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:18.240 police pull you over, and you get a weapon and 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:19.960 you pointed at the officer. 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:22.000 What is the officer left to do? 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:26.560 Handle yourself? You have to protect yourself. 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:31.440 That's that is a defensible shooting. It's like you said, 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:35.080 it's a horrible thing, but so why would there be 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:36.360 a payoff for that? 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:37.400 It doesn't make sense. 0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:41.040 So I mean, and here's the thing that's so weird 0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:43.639 to me. One if they were actually doing it, the 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:46.320 fact that it got out because the FOP sort of 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:48.000 you know, you got hint of it and wanted to 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:50.320 mention it right and get it out there. Maybe the 0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:53.080 politics of it, to change the optics, to maybe put 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:56.119 the kaibash on it. But it is bewildering that that 0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:59.600 would even be entertained. You have a situation that there's 0:22:59.680 --> 0:23:03.520 heart hardly and more glaringly obvious. At the time there 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:05.960 were everybody wanted to come out immediately. I said, look, 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:08.400 just wait until the dust settles, look at the investigation, 0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:10.480 look at the video and see it. And as it 0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:13.199 came out, it was being clear. But every time there 0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:17.560 was something else out that as horrible as the outcome is, 0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:23.840 this cop did what was necessary to end what was 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:24.920 a threat in that shit well. 0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:25.359 And the father. 0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:28.840 I mean, this is a clear case of something horribly 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:33.720 going wrong and then continuing down the road of horrible behavior. 0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:38.800 I mean, I get that there's gonna be pain. There's 0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:42.040 gonna be pain if your child is is shot and kilt. 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:44.720 I mean that that's gonna be pain. But running down 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:48.879 the police officer that it just seems like this whole 0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:53.840 circle of bad behavior that is just getting any nobody, 0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:59.359 everybody nowhere. It's terrible, terrible, another terrible story. We're talking 0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:02.880 about them this Friday mornings. Strelling's not our fault. It's 0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:05.640 the news. Yes, I mean, and we'll have light fun 0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:07.800 stuff too. But if I've won three seven, four, nine, seven, 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:09.639 eight hundred, the big when you can talk back the 0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:13.359 iHeartRadio app. I'm just what I'm curious about is how 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:17.240 I just I can't believe it's even possible that that 0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:19.360 How would that even get to the point where that, yeah, 0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:21.840 maybe we settle I don't. I can't believe that that's 0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:24.480 actually what was being discussed or is being discussed or 0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:27.080 worked out in some fashion, because I don't see in 0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:31.040 any way at all, whatsoever where anyone reasonably, irrationally can't 0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:34.360 look at that and say it was a justified shooting, 0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:38.320 horrible disastrous outcome for that young man in the family. Donna, 0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:40.359 But no, how about you don't have a gun in 0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:43.359 the car, and you don't steal a car, and you 0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:47.840 don't you know, you put yourself in these really bad positions. 0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:51.560 I think it was Bob earlier on the caller earlier 0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:55.119 who said, you know, you you have to adhere to 0:24:56.320 --> 0:25:01.199 law and enforcement and authority, and if you're going to 0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.960 act like that, there's going to be some repercussions no 0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.440 matter what, whether you get caught later, you're in jail, 0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:08.760 you do this, you do that? 0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:11.840 I mean, would the what if. 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:16.280 He surrendered and went to jail for you know, firearm 0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:19.600 and sealing the car would have been a lot better 0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:21.840 than the situation that he got himself in pointing at 0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:22.600 a police officer. 0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:28.199 Yeah, I mean, look, you've got a fleeing seemingly fellon 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:32.560 with the firearm going. It would have been moving through 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:35.560 a neighborhood in desperation. What are they going to do 0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:38.399 with that weapon if it's not in that situation just 0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:42.120 coming at law enforcement officer and in retribution or fear 0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:44.800 whatever else it is not thinking how about don't boost 0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:45.120 the car? 0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:45.800 Yeah? 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:48.480 How about stop when they tell you? How about get 0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:51.040 out with your hands out. You've probably seen enough videos 0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:53.600 to know how to handle that. Stop situation and go 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:55.400 to court, live another day to deal with it. Don't 0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:58.200 put somebody in fear of their lives if you're doing 0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:00.880 some criminal stuff some bad things may in fact come 0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:04.120 your way just by the you know, just by life happening. 0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:05.159 You know. 0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:08.120 You see these videos on like social media and I 0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:11.320 hate it. I hate it, but you see these people 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:14.480 going into these stores and stealing a bunch of stuff, 0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:17.280 and then people try to stop, don't touch me, don't 0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:21.600 touch me, don't touch It's like what you can't This 0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:23.840 isn't a free for all. You can't just do what 0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.760 you want. We are a nation of laws. And if 0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:30.160 you steal stuff, if you have weapons in your car, 0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:33.919 if you there's going to be ramifications for that, and 0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:34.919 you should expect that. 0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.679 It seems about as basic as anything it really does. 0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:41.119 Five point three seven eight hundred the big one. Stirling 0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:43.560 Donnade making a lot of sense on a Friday for 0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:47.359 Scott Sloan. We are, we are. It's hard sometimes, but 0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:49.760 somebody's got to do it. To Mason, with Jim and 0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:52.240 Gary and Chris and others in room for you. What's 0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:52.679 going on? 0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:53.399 Jim? How are you? 0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:56.040 I'm good, sterling, how are you? 0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:58.280 This is a great topic you brought up this morning. 0:26:58.480 --> 0:26:59.640 Thank you man. What's on your mind? 0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:10.400 Well, the city administration supposedly now is trying to attract 0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:16.199 the officers to the Cincinnati Police Force, Yet they do 0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:21.360 stupid stuff like this that tells anybody looking. 0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:21.680 To do that. 0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:26.560 Why would I come into the Cincinnati Police Force when 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:30.800 the administration doesn't support you or sends out the message 0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:35.640 that the police did something wrong in this. They did 0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:40.720 absolutely nothing wrong in this. It was justified shooting in that. 0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:43.959 The only other thing I'd like to say is I 0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:47.600 live in Mason now and I was thinking about buying 0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:53.760 a condo, and I've totally ruled out the city of Cincinnati. 0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:57.560 I don't go to the Esquire Theater anymore. A lot 0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.520 of the places that I used to go to, I 0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:05.280 don't go to anymore because I don't trust the city 0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:09.199 as far as keeping me safe. I'm in my seventies 0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:14.879 and I just don't trust the city administration. It is 0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:18.919 unbelievable to me. You look back at the bridge fire, 0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:23.880 nobody gets, nobody gets in trouble for that. You look 0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:27.520 at the other faux pass by the administration, nobody gets 0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:32.000 in trouble. There's no accountability. It's unbelievable. Pretty much what 0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:32.840 I have to say. 0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.080 Well, Jim, I appreciate the call, thank you, and I 0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.320 hate the idea that you don't feel like getting out 0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:40.880 and about in what isn't a world class city being Cincinnati. 0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:43.600 But I know people have that feeling, and sometimes you 0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:45.200 get a little bit older. There's a lot that goes 0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:45.800 into that too. 0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:46.360 I do. 0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:49.200 I hate that as well, because I'm downtown a lot 0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:51.520 and I always I don't not feel safe. 0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:52.920 I mean, I'm a woman too, and. 0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:59.440 So I feel pretty safe in downtown Cincinnati, and some 0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:04.080 of these amazing restaurants and theaters and things like that 0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:05.680 really spoiled we are. 0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:07.560 We have a great city downtown. 0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:09.800 I'm so sorry you feel that way, Jim, But this 0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:13.600 is why this kind of stuff snowballs. You know, something 0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.120 happens over here and Jim feels like he can't go 0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:18.840 down and hang out in a great city that we have. 0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:19.560 That's a bummer. 0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:19.840 You know. 0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:21.960 What I would like to hear is from the city 0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:23.840 to actually come out and say that they were or 0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:27.000 were not, and actually say it if they were working 0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:30.800 on a settlement here or not. If the FOB came 0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:33.800 out and that is factual information, it is bewildering, and 0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.640 liked them to rationalize it, justify it to the public 0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:41.240 rather than doing it quietly though most negotiations are private. Generally, 0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:44.440 it just doesn't make sense on any reason at all 0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:48.680 whatsoever for what is clearly a justified shooting, as horrific 0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:51.360 as the outcome, is that law enforcement officer has to 0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:53.400 live with taking a life of another, even though it 0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:57.560 was in their own survival and defense of the community 0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:01.200 as well, and a family lost the This kid who 0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:03.440 was not doing what he should have been, should have 0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.640 been doing just about anything else other than being in 0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:08.080 a stolen car hanging out with other you know, kids, 0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:12.640 young people doing some criminal stuff. Sometimes bad outcomes happen. Yeah, 0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:16.240 it's just terrible. Five point three seven four nine, seven, 0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:21.680 eight hundred, the big one. Let's see, let's get to Gary, then, 0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:23.960 Zach and Chris in the room for you on a 0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:26.560 Friday Scott Sloan Show with Stirling and Donnade. 0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:30.880 What do you have, Gary, Well, I've been listening pretty 0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:35.080 intently to all this for the last year, since ma 0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:39.160 since this young man cast his own death. But then, 0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:43.240 just like day before yesterday, that woman cast her own death. 0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:47.440 Same thing with George Floyd. They all have something in common. 0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:52.120 They broke the laws. And what we're not hearing and 0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:57.880 the liberal media, the left and the right. They need 0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:03.320 to be driving home and try to reverse the damage 0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:08.200 and the fear that they've created in people, especially people 0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:15.520 of color. Comply, comply, comply. They've created such a hatred 0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:19.840 and a disrespect for law enforcement, no matter who it is, 0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:23.680 if it's a Cincinnati police, Gayton police, Sidney, Ohio police 0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:28.440 where I live or wherever, or ice. We are living 0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:34.400 in terrible times. And it's the political media, liberal media 0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:39.680 that have created this hostile environment toward police officers, and 0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:42.880 people are going to continue to die if they do 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:43.920 not comply. 0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:47.120 It's that simple, Gary, I appreciate the call that you know, 0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:50.200 te tying in the George Floyd thing or otherwise. He 0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:52.440 was complying and not a threat at that point, and 0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:55.880 that officer was, you know, paying a price for obviously 0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:58.480 doing what he did in the way that that played 0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:03.000 out in some fashion. But yeah, I mean, if you're 0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:05.680 in a situation you've been directed by police, it's real simple. 0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:08.760 They have the authority, they have the firepower. I'd rather 0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.600 live to fight in court if you disagree with what 0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.960 has gone on with that process of one's arrest or detainment, 0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:19.480 rather than ending up in a bag or otherwise there's 0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.920 no need for that engagement unnecessarily. But I mean not 0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:25.720 all of those cases you mentioned are apples to oranges 0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:29.640 in that respectfully. I mean, it's just in my opinion, 0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:29.960 it's not. 0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:30.720 It's not. 0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:34.760 Let's get to downtown, Bob and Zach and Chris. We 0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:36.760 got a room for a few more before you're ten 0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.360 o'clock report, and then we'll talk on healthy Can I just. 0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:42.120 Say too, though, I do understand what Gary is talking 0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:44.640 about and comply, and I do feel like a lot 0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:49.080 of people, you know, feel justified in not complying. And 0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:52.240 that's the worst thing you can do in a situation 0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:56.400 when a police officer pulls you over, you answer questions 0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:58.080 and you comply. 0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:00.720 I don't disagree with him at all. 0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.840 No, I mean, it's real simple. Everybody wants to go home. 0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:05.800 Everybody's trying to do whatever they got to do. 0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:08.320 Well, we have to have law and order in this country, 0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:10.960 and you can't just ignore that. 0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:13.160 No, And the other side of it is that you 0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:15.280 also and I have friends that are police, and they'll 0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:18.440 talk about courts. I mean, here's the thing. You also 0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:22.920 want your civil rights, your civil liberties to be protected 0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:27.000 and adhered to. No differently, than anyone Else's whether you're 0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.280 in a uniform wearing a badge and a side arm 0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:31.240 and doing you know, the government work as a police 0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:34.200 officer or a federal authority or otherwise. We all do 0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:37.960 have rights and that does not cease just because there 0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:40.800 is some type of back and forth and that has 0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:44.000 to be respected both ways in my view. Anyway too, 0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.320 All right, the Bob, But your turn with Sterling and 0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:47.480 Donnade on the big one. 0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:55.680 Yeah, this is real possible that the settlement discussions are 0:33:55.760 --> 0:34:01.720 being driven by the city's insurance company. There have been 0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:09.879 some large jury vertices involving governmental agencies that's screwed up. 0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:14.160 And I'm not saying anybody screwed up, but the insurance 0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:18.840 company may be afraid of getting a large judgment against 0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:22.960 the city, right, and therefore they are telling us sit 0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:26.120 he look, we can settle this, and if the city 0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:29.960 doesn't agree to that, the insurance company can then deny 0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:32.600 the obligation of reimbursement. 0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:35.439 Well, you know, I would love to Bob, And that's 0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:39.080 a great place point that I really hate to think 0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:41.719 would be the reality of the circumstance for those not 0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.480 knowing about this. And I think that the city would 0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:48.359 be negotiating a settlement because of that, even though it 0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:51.120 seems completely inappropriately, there. 0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:54.000 Has to be some moral judgment here on whether right 0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:55.160 and wrong does matter. 0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:58.680 It does, and so money should be set aside. 0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:02.640 And we had a call earlier with Jim supporting the 0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:05.480 police officer that put his life on the line. That 0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:08.680 is very, very that should take precedent over any kind 0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:09.320 of settlement. 0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:11.440 You have a fire arm in your hand, you're fleeing 0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:13.719 police involved in a heist of a car, and you're 0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:16.120 not doing what they say. You exit the vehicle with 0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:18.480 the gun in hand. What exactly is it that you 0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:21.279 expect someone to do in that situation? 0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:23.400 How is that not justified? 0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.120 In the defense the Dark County, Steve was Stirling and 0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:28.680 Donnade on the Big One for Scott Sloan. What's going on, Steve? 0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:32.319 Hey, here's my thoughts on this. 0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:38.799 The City of Cincinnati pays out any day, and I 0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:40.279 understand what your last. 0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:43.920 Caller just said. He's not wrong in. 0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:47.680 The thought process, but I think the family of the 0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:51.680 dead police officer should then sue the family for that 0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:56.800 amount because he's just as dead in a wrongful death. 0:35:58.680 --> 0:35:59.400 Am I. 0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:06.439 I'm processing it. I mean, no, I see what he's saying, 0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:09.760 but it wasn't the wrongful. Yeah, that is great. 0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:11.920 I see what he's saying, because he should just get 0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:14.400 the money back because here he is the officer for 0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:16.400 no fault of his own has been run over and 0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:19.880 now he's not he's deceased as well. But the officer 0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:25.200 was justified in many ways unfortunately killing that. 0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:26.160 Yeah. 0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.720 I mean there's so many layers to that with that, Dad, 0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:31.960 I mean he targeted that deputy. I mean out there 0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.120 just helping people get around, you see. And it was 0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:36.480 graduation time. Was that the first of May of commencement 0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:38.160 stuff or whatever else in and around there. 0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:42.000 It was just horrific. Uh. 0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:45.080 I'm just still trying to make sense of the idea 0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:48.960 that for an insurance purpose and CYA or otherwise Donna 0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:51.759 that they're like, we should just negotiate a settlement on this. 0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:53.520 It was just a viable shooting. 0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:55.960 That is the problem of why. 0:36:55.320 --> 0:37:00.040 Billable hours and and and insurance purposes. That's where we 0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:02.920 go wrong on a lot of things. I mean, Gary 0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:04.719 had a very good point there, or. 0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:07.439 Bob rather hard to make sense of that at all. 0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:10.120 It's a Friday Scott Sloane Show. Sterling and Donna d 0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:12.879 coming back after your ten o'clock reporter update on what's 0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:14.799 going on around the tri State and Planet Earth that 0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:17.839 matters to us. Here, Chris lewis you see health? Doc 0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:20.440 gonna join us talk about new dietary guidelines trying to 0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:24.040 get fit and healthy into the warm year. In front 0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:28.520 of us, they've turned the pyramid upside down. I don't 0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:29.280 know whatever, really. 0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:30.480 I can't wait for this discussion. 0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:32.839 And we'll talk flu. If you're hacking or know someone 0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.160 whose nose is running, if your nose is sore from 0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:37.239 blowing it too much, this could be a time for 0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:39.360 you to find your way to good health as well. 0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:41.759 Either way, we'll have some lasts. Glad you're along. By 0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:45.320 the way, this the home of the Red seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati. 0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:48.040 Do you want to be an American idiot? 0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:52.200 All right, it's a Friday Scott Sloan show. He's enjoying 0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:55.200 a day off, long weekend for him. Gives me some 0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:58.160 time with Donna d And here we are Sterling and 0:37:58.200 --> 0:37:58.719 Donna de. 0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:00.000 Hey bringing the greens. 0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:01.799 Yeah, yeah, you know. 0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:06.000 You don't is a company I worked with. 0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:11.000 Yeah, that's his regular opening man, Doctor Chris Lewis is 0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:13.680 a guy who knows a little bit about family medicine 0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:15.839 from UC Health kind enough to give us some time 0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:19.080 on a Friday morning at Scott Sloan Show. Welcome. You're 0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:22.920 with Stirling and Donna d uh. First of all, explain 0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:27.040 to me the new upside down food pyramid. And Donna 0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:30.400 had a great question off the year, which was simply, I. 0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:32.200 Don't see any seeds or nuts on there. 0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:37.640 She's very concerned. She's a nut eating it's berry. She's 0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:39.919 eating a bag of nuts and berries right now. 0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:44.279 Well, I appreciate your concern, Donna, And first let me 0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:46.200 just say thank you for having me. I appreciate all 0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:48.560 that you all do for Sony is to editate our community. 0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.000 But yeah, if you if you're taking a look or 0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:53.160 turned on the news, you've seen that the food pyramid 0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:55.759 has been inverted. It's kind of been slipped upside down, 0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:57.920 and it's a little bit different than what you expect. 0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:01.040 Our original US food pyramid was pretty in nineteen ninety 0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:03.799 two and then revise again in two thousand and five 0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:06.720 and again in twenty eleven. But this looks a little 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:09.160 bit different, and there's a little bit of controversy in 0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:10.279 the medical community about it. 0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:13.760 What's controversial, Well. 0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:19.760 There's a big emphasis on protein, essentially recommending that people 0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:25.319 double their protein impact, and that's actually some people think 0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:27.560 that that's a good thing because of what it can 0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:30.040 do to give you a sense of fullness and decrease 0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:32.880 your appetite and add muscle mass. But there's also concern 0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:35.680 about the emphasis on red meat and full dairy that 0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:39.200 that might actually kind of contradict some recommendations that have 0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:42.440 been long existing from the American Heart Association based on 0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:45.360 decades of research linking you know, a lot of protein 0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:49.080 and full fat dairy to cardiovascular risk. 0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:53.520 Yeah, absolutely, clogging arteries and things like that. And you know, 0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:55.640 even a piece of all you have to do is 0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:58.960 do the research on this. And even if you do 0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:02.000 eat a bunch of red meat eat it takes a 0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:06.160 long time and a lot of energy to digest a 0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:09.160 piece like a steak, a red meat steak or even 0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:12.440 protein period. So if you keep adding it and you double, 0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:16.480 I couldn't agree with the with the assessment. But the 0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:20.040 original food pyramid is because I just pulled it up 0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:21.840 because I haven't seen this in a long time. 0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:25.400 It's like the top part, so it's a diagonal. 0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:28.359 The top part is fats, oils and sweets, so you 0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:32.080 use those sparingly. Then it goes to milk, yogurt and cheese, 0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:37.600 then vegetables and then bread, cereal, rice and pasta. 0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:41.160 That was the old one in the and. 0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:43.680 The big one that everybody should eat and could eat 0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:47.160 six to eleven servings is bread, cereal, rice and pasta. 0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:51.640 And they've flipped that and they say no more processed foods. 0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:52.600 That's the big deal. 0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:56.280 And I agree with that too, eat whole foods, fruits, veggies, 0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:59.600 and nuts and seeds. But yeah, doubling on protein, I 0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:00.799 don't think I agree with. 0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:03.279 Talking to doctor Chris Lewis from U see Health of 0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:05.440 Stirling and Donna a d and for Scott Sloan. So 0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:08.400 how much of a problem is the mult processed food 0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:12.200 in the idea that you alluded to, which is the 0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:15.799 fact that maybe heavy in protein more than maybe a 0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:17.839 lot of dogs might agree with with what the data 0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:18.399 they have now? 0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:19.000 Is that correct? 0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:22.239 Yeah, well, the protein and the high sat aside, which 0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:24.239 is one of the biggest controversial things that we're seeing 0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:26.440 with the new one. D I think there's universal agree 0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:30.840 or pretty universal agreement that de emphasizing sugar and process 0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:32.920 foods is a good idea, and the emphasis on whole 0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:35.719 foods is great, And Donna, what's your recoon what you're 0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:38.080 talking about with the shape of the pyramid, you know, 0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:40.759 there's also just a little bit of controversy on, you know, 0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:44.120 inverting it and not really having it's harder when you 0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:47.640 look at this one to really figure out portion, sizes 0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:50.799 and quantity of food. Then that was a good thing 0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:53.640 from the former food pyramid. And then in twenty eleven 0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:55.359 we kind of switched to more of the my plate 0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:57.920 where you had this plate broken down in terms of 0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:02.680 size of protein, vegetables, grains, and fruits, and that was 0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:04.720 maybe a little bit easier for the for the common 0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:07.080 person to really kind of digest that the new Fearman 0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.560 just the new Superman. The visual of it isn't quite 0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:12.640 as easy to digest for. 0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:15.160 Lack of a better workers fun intended. 0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:20.240 So so everybody agrees that there should be less processed foods, 0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:23.360 less sugar, because we know how destructive that is. 0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:24.399 All that stuff is so. 0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:29.560 Good well, I mean, cereal still is really good, but 0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:34.360 so but also controversial is the double on protein and 0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:39.239 how do we even maintain that because there's you know 0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:43.279 that what they're talking about is animal protein, not not 0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:47.120 protein from nuts and seeds and green leafies and and 0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:50.960 that kind of stuff. So we can't even we can't. 0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:54.200 I mean, how many animals do we? We kill billions 0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:56.759 a year for that? How how are we going to 0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:57.360 double that? 0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:00.319 Yeah, and there are ways to get a lot of 0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:05.359 protein through through non animal products, and there's the rise 0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:06.920 of the protein shakes and that sort of thing. That 0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:09.399 brings up another point of the controversy is that there's 0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:11.319 a little bit of concern in the medical community that 0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:14.960 some of the recommendations may be more heavily influenced by 0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:17.879 particular industries than in the past. So that's always something 0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:20.560 to look at. But you know, I think first and 0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.160 foremost people ought to be plugged in with their primary 0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.359 care for this or their healthcare network to make sure 0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:28.640 that they can talk to an expert, to someone who 0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:30.600 does this for a living and who can really give 0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:34.759 them tailored advice on nutrition and health based on their 0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.799 own health conditions and family history and genetics and all 0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:38.680 those sorts of things. 0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:41.600 Talking to you see health, so family medicine dot Chris 0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:43.799 Lewis was Stirling and Donnade on the big one and 0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:46.040 for Scott Sloan. So you said something interesting. So the 0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:50.080 idea is that what it sounded like is that this 0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:53.959 recommendation and the way they've moved through it is more 0:43:54.160 --> 0:44:00.279 about improving business interest rather than the US citizen's health interest. 0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:02.400 I mean, did I did I hear that correctly? 0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:03.799 No? 0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:06.960 You didn't. There might have been some inference, but I'm 0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:09.040 going to say a political on this, and I would 0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:12.680 just say that the reports coming out of the medical community, 0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:15.280 and there there are some concerns coming from the medical 0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:18.560 community that that have that that raised that question. I 0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:21.759 don't think anybody's pointed fingers just quite yet, but it 0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:25.640 does seem a little odd some of the recommendations, how 0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:27.719 they kind of fly in the face of decades of 0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:31.880 research that that that that proved health and safety and 0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:35.080 have been the backbone of some of the guidelines that 0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:39.080 have existed and agreed upon through all the physician agencies, 0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:43.880 the government agencies like the Food and Drug Administration, research, 0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:46.799 the American Heart Association, all all of that research and 0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.120 some of this doesn't really align with that, so it 0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:49.920 raises questions. 0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:52.200 Yeah, Chris, it did sound a little bit harsher the 0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:57.680 ways I was just trying to I wasn't trying to 0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:01.560 cause problems. But it's interesting because we know heart disease 0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:05.040 or a heart attack is lack of blood and or 0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:06.439 oxygen to the heart. 0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:07.760 A stroke is lack of blood. 0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:11.200 You have to have your blood moving freely through the body, 0:45:11.440 --> 0:45:14.480 and when you have a lot of fatty meats and 0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:18.640 dairy and things like that, it's clogging your arteries. So 0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:21.520 it makes it harder to get the blood to the 0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:24.120 heart and blood to the brain and things like that. 0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:27.279 So I mean, I'm not a physician, and I'm not 0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:28.880 here to claim that, but I do a lot of 0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:31.759 research because I actually am plant based, and one of 0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:36.800 the reasons is for my health because of those statistics 0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:40.840 from many of the associations that you just mentioned. 0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:42.520 Chris, I've been called a vegetable. 0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:44.920 And I've been play family doctor for twenty three years 0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:47.440 or twenty six years now, sorry, I've been a family 0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:49.960 doctor for twenty six years and every year the highest thing, 0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:52.720 the most common things that I see your high blood pressure, diabetes, 0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:56.280 and high cholesterol. And I have concerns about my patients 0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:59.919 following some of the new guidelines without proper vetting without 0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:02.120 talking to me first, how big of. 0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:04.640 A problem in the twenty five, twenty six years, whatever 0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:06.000 it's been that you've been doing what you do in 0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:09.319 family practice, doctor Lewis, Are we healthier now or not 0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:10.799 as healthy as we used to be? 0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:13.640 It depends on who you talk to, and there are 0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:15.880 certain segments of the population that are a lot healthier 0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:20.520 certain segments that that aren't quite as healthy. Unfortunately, there 0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:24.160 tends to be a correlation between income in the community 0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:26.600 in which you live and in your own personal income 0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:29.600 and how healthy you are. It's not, you know, an 0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:33.439 exact science, but I am a little bit concerned about 0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:37.640 what's happening in some of our communities that don't have 0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:39.719 the same sorts of means as other communities. You know, 0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:41.400 So some of the things that are coming down the 0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:47.120 pike with with changes to Medicaid and insurance are really 0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:52.680 hurting in particular rural communities and critical access hospitals. So, 0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:55.600 you know, the question is it's hard to answer it 0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:58.600 with a blanket answer, but there are ways in which 0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:00.480 we're a lot healthier. There are ways in which we're 0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:03.480 not a lot healthier, And the growing number of people 0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:08.080 with diabetes and heart disease and high blood pressure. Those 0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:10.919 things concern me and the future generation of doctors as well. 0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:14.200 So as a family doctor or physician yourself, I have 0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:16.360 to ask you what you think of the glp ones, 0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:19.200 the ozempics and things like that. Is it healthy to 0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:23.440 be on those You hear so many different sides to 0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:27.319 this story. But I've seen friends of mine that have 0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:32.320 lost fifty pounds and they've had weight issues their whole life, 0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:37.440 and they've been on these and you seem healthier, live better, 0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:38.759 not stressed out. 0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:40.279 What is your opinion on that? 0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:45.000 Well, I'll pressure my thoughts by saying that I, in general, 0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:48.680 tend to be slow to jump on new medications. That 0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:52.120 that's just my own personal style. I do know that 0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:56.240 there are physicians that feel that they are safely prescribing 0:47:56.239 --> 0:47:58.800 these medications and having profound impacts and the health of 0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:01.880 their patients. I know many doctors that under the supervision 0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:05.080 of their healthcare providers are on these medications and getting 0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:08.960 very good health results. I think the danger right now 0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:12.080 for me lives in people who are accessing these medications 0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:17.799 without healthcare providers, you know, the supervision, and I think 0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:18.719 that can be dangerous. 0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:22.000 Doctor Lewis how does someone get their hands on It's 0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:24.279 a prescribed drug, right, so how are they getting their 0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:27.239 hands on it without a doctor writing the prescription, going 0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:29.359 to the pharmacy, or at least having it sent there 0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:30.840 and having it delivered or otherwise. 0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:33.239 Well, I don't know if I want to tell you that, 0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:37.959 because then all your listeners might go in to start 0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:41.040 the system by going outside of the US. That is 0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:42.560 one of the more common ways to do that. 0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:42.839 Well. 0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:45.840 And there's also like new things where you don't have 0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:48.560 to gum or something that you don't have to you know, 0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:52.600 inject yourself with it. There's all kinds of new ways 0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:55.480 to get this. I think this will be readily available 0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:57.360 to everybody in the next few years. 0:48:57.840 --> 0:48:58.280 Interesting. 0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:00.319 It'll be interesting to see how this plays out long 0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:02.359 term and the effects of that. I'm all for being 0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:04.120 a little bit more cautious, but I'm no doctor, and 0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:05.600 I don't want to play on the radio. That's why 0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:08.600 we have Chris Lewis, a doctor family medicine, a specialist 0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:11.160 from UC Health. With Stirling and Donade on the big one. 0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:13.799 Let's switch this if we can, because there's a whole 0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:16.280 lot of people that have been missing work, missing school 0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:20.040 since it's come back back from the holidays, whether it's 0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:23.400 the croup or bronchitis. Seems the flu is going around. 0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:27.160 The flu shot is still very effective, but apparently the 0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:29.480 strain that's really whipping up a lot of trouble is 0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:31.640 not covered under that. How do we look this week 0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:33.719 compared to say last week, and what you're seeing and 0:49:34.239 --> 0:49:36.719 what you're hearing, Doctor lewis Well. 0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:39.000 In addition to being in a family tradition with UC help, 0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:41.680 I also serve on our Cincinnati Board of Health, so 0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:44.960 I'm due to get our latest report on Tuesday. But 0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:48.720 looking at the previous report, still continues to trend upward, 0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:52.919 steep upward trend for flu since December. And you're exactly right. 0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:56.319 This influenza strain called stub played K is the big 0:49:56.360 --> 0:50:00.000 one that's impacting southwest Ohio. It is not fully cut 0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:02.560 by the flu vaccine. But I want to make sure 0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:04.960 that your listeners understand that that doesn't mean that you 0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:08.400 shouldn't get the flu vaccine. The vaccine helps prevent the 0:50:08.480 --> 0:50:12.359 spread and also lessen the symptoms if you do can 0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:15.880 contract the virus, so it is still universally recommended to 0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:17.000 get your flu vaccine. 0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:21.960 Doctor Lewis, do you recommend getting the COVID vaccine as well? 0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:22.600 I do. 0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:25.200 I'm a big proponent of both the COVID and the 0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:29.960 flu vaccine. Despite all of this political and social media 0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:34.080 controversy out there, vaccine saved lives and that's been demonstrated 0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:37.600 time and time and time again through the science, and 0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:40.800 I would highly encourage people to talk to their healthcare 0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:45.719 provider for the most accurate vaccine recommendations tailored to their 0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:47.120 own particular health situation. 0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:50.080 Doctor Chris Lewis from U SEE Health with Stirling and 0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:53.680 Donnade on the Big One, How has it changed? You mentioned, 0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:56.000 you know, what they people see online and so forth. 0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:58.840 Did they come in and then counsel with you? You know, 0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:01.920 It's one of the questions I've had interesting conversations with 0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:05.439 other docs about whether it was pharmaceutical companies running ads 0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:08.759 and then having people tell doctors what medication they think 0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:11.960 they should be on, rather than allowing doctors to do 0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:15.080 the doctoring. How has that change? And what are you 0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:18.239 seeing trend wise with your patient roster or others that 0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:20.640 you're hearing about with people coming in, Are they taking 0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:24.360 counsel from you in an effective, good way or is 0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:28.440 a lot of the outside interference in static, complicated what 0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:30.320 you do and people's health outcomes. 0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:30.839 Do you think. 0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:36.480 I absolutely love having educated patients and love having patients 0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:41.880 that seek out information. So I will never discount the 0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:45.000 usefulness of patients taking their health into their own hands. 0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:47.920 What I do recommend is there are certain sources of 0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:51.759 information that are trusted and certain sources of information that 0:51:51.960 --> 0:51:55.960 may not have that same sort of rigorous, peer reviewed 0:51:56.040 --> 0:52:00.640 scientific data approach. So when you're looking at record mandations, 0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:04.200 I tend to really put a lot of stock in 0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:08.200 what the physician groups are saying, you know, the American 0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:12.759 Medical Association, the American Heart Association. You know, when you 0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:16.239 have organized medicine and groups of healthcare providers that get 0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:19.920 together with no political influence to make recommendations based on 0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:23.520 the health and safety of individual patients and communities that 0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:27.360 we serve, it's I think it's easier to put a 0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:29.560 lot of stock in those recommendations. So for patients that 0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:33.680 are eager to do their own doctoring and to look 0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:36.640 up things on the Internet and look at various sites 0:52:36.680 --> 0:52:38.680 and things like that, I would encourage them to have 0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:41.000 a little bit of discretion about what sites they're using 0:52:41.000 --> 0:52:43.240 and direct people towards those sources of trusted sites. 0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:47.600 One more question I have to ask him, because I 0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:51.200 do this all the time, maybe even a little bit 0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:53.880 too much. If I have like you know, I have 0:52:54.000 --> 0:52:56.960 this weird thing on my forehead and I took a 0:52:56.960 --> 0:53:01.520 picture of it, and I found out the dermatologists. I 0:53:01.560 --> 0:53:05.640 asked Chatchypt everything. I put in as much information as 0:53:05.680 --> 0:53:08.200 I could. When it appeared what I have never I 0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:10.040 thought I got hit in the head with my foster 0:53:10.120 --> 0:53:13.680 dog because it, you know, and everything it told me, 0:53:13.760 --> 0:53:16.000 I went to the dermatologist. 0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:16.280 And it was correct. 0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:19.680 How much should we How much should we invest in 0:53:20.040 --> 0:53:22.680 believing in Chatchept and the like. 0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:27.040 I think the AI is going to continue to get better, 0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:28.600 and there's a lot of truth to be found. But 0:53:28.760 --> 0:53:30.480 you know, at the end of the day, the healthcare 0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:34.200 industry is a ten trillion dollar industry. And if you 0:53:34.280 --> 0:53:36.920 think that people aren't going to try to take advantage 0:53:36.960 --> 0:53:40.080 of you to make them buck, I think that would 0:53:40.120 --> 0:53:41.520 be that would be shortsighted. 0:53:42.960 --> 0:53:45.680 Great information. We appreciate you making time. We know you're 0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:48.399 busy getting people healthy and keeping them that way too. 0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:51.759 From Uce Health, a family medicine doctor also doing Stuffhamlet 0:53:51.840 --> 0:53:54.520 County Boor of Health doctor Chris Lewis. Thank you for 0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:55.880 making time with us. I want to go to. 0:53:55.960 --> 0:53:58.880 Me, doctor Lewis. I want him to be my doctor. 0:53:59.640 --> 0:53:59.960 You can do. 0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:02.480 I appreciate all you community. 0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:04.640 Absolutely, we appreciate you too. Thank you very much. 0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:08.439 Great is that you don't really ever hear doctor talk 0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:08.960 like that. 0:54:08.960 --> 0:54:09.640 That's amazing. 0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:13.400 Okay, Well for me, well I understand. Yeah, I mean 0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:14.120 we can get him money. 0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:15.239 You want to do it. We could do a visit 0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:17.279 right here. It would be different. We can do it. 0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:19.239 I mean, I don't know. 0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:21.680 Why not your ten thirty reports that are coming up 0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:23.160 an idea as to what's going on in the news 0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:25.720 around the tri state and beyond. Kevin Carr, a movie 0:54:25.760 --> 0:54:28.359 guy from Silber Gecko and h sub Stack in Fat 0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:29.840 Guys that the movie is gonna join us on the 0:54:29.880 --> 0:54:32.520 other side. I feel healthier already. Yeah, I'm going to 0:54:32.560 --> 0:54:35.799 be eating everything on that food triangle immediately. Bring on 0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:39.280 the state. It's Sterling and Donna d for Scott Sloan 0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:43.719 on a beautiful Friday, seven hundred WLW. It's Sterling and 0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:47.760 Donna de hanging out nice. I think it's stopped raining. 0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:51.160 Scott Sloan enjoying a day off. Hopefully all is well 0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:55.360 with you and yours. Well, we've been serious. We've talked health, 0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:59.520 we've talked flu. We like solving the world's problems. No 0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:02.000 matter what ken Brew likes to say, we don't make 0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:04.920 them worse. Kevin Carr makes lots of things better, as 0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:07.360 well as taking the hit for us seeing movies that 0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:11.239 oftentimes are waste of time, that suck in parts of 0:55:11.280 --> 0:55:13.480 our lives that will never get bad because he's a 0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:17.080 civil servant of a different kind. Silver gecko on the substack, 0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:20.480 fat guys at the movies. Kevin, how are you, how's everything? 0:55:20.480 --> 0:55:21.040 Good morning? 0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:24.760 Good morning. I'm used to talking to you in the evening, 0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:28.239 so yeah, my voice is a little hoarse from waking. 0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:29.160 Up out of that kind of thing. 0:55:29.200 --> 0:55:32.279 Well, we appreciate doing I know, I know. 0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:37.120 I often you're total amateurs. I said to Sterling, like 0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:40.719 he's doing he's Sterling is on fire today, and I said, 0:55:40.719 --> 0:55:43.960 you need to get up earlier and more often. 0:55:44.239 --> 0:55:48.880 And I am awake. I'm just usually not talking publicly. 0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:51.480 I'm talking to my dog and roaming the neighborhood and 0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:55.600 doing other things. Uh, Kevin, this is a I know, 0:55:55.640 --> 0:55:58.520 it's like one of those award show weekend things before 0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:00.560 we get to it, and I think this is a 0:56:00.680 --> 0:56:02.440 like the Fun and an Award show because they think 0:56:02.440 --> 0:56:04.839 they all get tanked and like, you know, belligerent, which 0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:09.280 I enjoyed. That being said, though, at the movies getting 0:56:09.280 --> 0:56:11.319 out and about to maybe hide from the news and 0:56:11.400 --> 0:56:14.279 enjoy ourselves, is there anything actually worth our time going 0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:16.320 to the movie this weekend because this is that weird 0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:18.120 transitional first part of January. 0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:22.120 Yeah, because we're in that time when there are a 0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:24.920 lot of like big like event films. You know, you 0:56:24.960 --> 0:56:28.160 still have Avatar in the theaters, You've got all the award 0:56:28.160 --> 0:56:30.560 films that are in the theaters, and then you got 0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:33.359 all the crap they're dumping out in January in the theaters. 0:56:33.719 --> 0:56:36.400 And when it comes to you know, you were describing 0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:39.360 what I do as a silver civil servant, you know, 0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:41.920 taking a hit for everybody for a movie sucks. I 0:56:42.000 --> 0:56:46.439 did that this week because I chose to go check 0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:51.920 out Greenland to Migration, which is the sequel to Greenland, 0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:54.840 which was a monestin about five years ago which Gerard 0:56:54.840 --> 0:57:00.160 Butler escaping a comet. He escapes to Greenland to to 0:57:00.200 --> 0:57:02.760 avoid this destructive comment that's gonna wipe out the world. 0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:07.239 Here's the sequel, five years ago. Don't don't worry about 0:57:07.239 --> 0:57:09.920 the science. Just everything's still on fire and blowing up. 0:57:10.719 --> 0:57:14.640 That that's that's what's happening. And the Greenland facility has 0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:18.360 been compromised, so they have to migrate south into France 0:57:18.880 --> 0:57:22.480 to try and find this zone of safety to live in. 0:57:23.640 --> 0:57:26.880 And you know, this really is terrible of a move. 0:57:28.840 --> 0:57:31.320 It's a disaster film in more ways than just the 0:57:31.400 --> 0:57:36.400 descriptive nature. It's well, part of it is the the 0:57:36.400 --> 0:57:39.720 the event already happened. The comet hit in the last movie, 0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:43.360 so you don't get that big build up to a 0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:48.040 climac again. Everything's destroyed already. So he and his wife 0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:51.840 and son are are sort of taking this journey and 0:57:51.920 --> 0:57:54.160 it's sort of like, you know, it's like The Lord 0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:56.000 of the Rings, if it was all dark and dingy 0:57:56.040 --> 0:57:58.760 and everything was destroyed and there's just a bunch of 0:57:58.760 --> 0:58:03.680 emo hobbits walking across Europe. It's that this movie is. 0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:07.600 It's it's a pale imitation. And what's weird about it too, 0:58:07.600 --> 0:58:10.200 This is a strange thing that kind of caught me. 0:58:11.000 --> 0:58:15.760 They have these needle drops in the soundtrack of popular songs, 0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:19.439 but it feels like a k tel ad because they're 0:58:19.480 --> 0:58:23.600 like these soft rock hits that that don't really kind 0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:29.440 of make if that doesn't make the movie exciting, so 0:58:30.200 --> 0:58:34.520 it doesn't. Yeah, it just doesn't work. So here's the thing. 0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:37.000 There's another movie called Primate out which is about a 0:58:37.080 --> 0:58:41.720 killer eight cool and apparently that that's got some great 0:58:41.760 --> 0:58:45.640 reviews and it's doing well. So I chose poorly this weekend. 0:58:46.400 --> 0:58:49.560 And uh, that's my advice to use. Don't choose poorly. 0:58:49.960 --> 0:58:52.720 If you're gonna go see something, it can't be worse 0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:55.640 than Greenland too, So you can check out Primate. 0:58:55.920 --> 0:58:57.600 That's That's the one I was going to ask you about. 0:58:57.760 --> 0:59:01.160 Is rated R. It's a horror film and it is. 0:59:03.600 --> 0:59:06.040 Yeah, you get a monkey and ape whatever I mean, simeons, 0:59:06.120 --> 0:59:08.840 I mean, anytime you get a story about any any 0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:10.080 of those, it's fantastic. 0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:12.640 Yeah, they go for the eyes, they go for your 0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:16.480 privates when they get mad. That is what happens with it. 0:59:16.760 --> 0:59:19.600 There's always here's the thing. First of all, I don't 0:59:19.600 --> 0:59:22.680 know if you've ever dealt with I've never dealt with 0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:25.520 apes and chips and that sort of thing. But I've 0:59:25.560 --> 0:59:29.600 dealt with monkeys. Monkeys are a bunch of jerks. They 0:59:29.640 --> 0:59:34.760 are not nice things. They're mischievous. They're just smart enough 0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:38.920 to be a pain. So yeah, and they'll poop everywhere 0:59:39.040 --> 0:59:39.400 they do it. 0:59:39.400 --> 0:59:41.400 Well, I think I've told you this. I know I've 0:59:41.400 --> 0:59:43.960 mentioned it on the year at least once. Is a 0:59:44.040 --> 0:59:46.000 kid growing up, I had a neighbor of the building 0:59:46.040 --> 0:59:49.520 next door, Todd, and they had a pet monkey, and 0:59:49.920 --> 0:59:52.280 all the time everybody go to his house, like after school, 0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:54.120 he'd be like, Oh, we're gonna do homework at Todd's house, 0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:56.800 go see the monkey. And that poor monkey was in 0:59:56.840 --> 0:59:59.000 this cage and all he did was fling poop at everybody. 0:59:59.080 --> 1:00:01.520 Was miserable all all the time, and I wanted to 1:00:01.600 --> 1:00:03.560 rescue the monkey. Mang goes, No, you can't do that. 1:00:03.640 --> 1:00:05.840 It's not your monkey. First of all, it's horrible. It's sad. 1:00:05.840 --> 1:00:07.440 I get what you're saying, but it could rip your 1:00:07.480 --> 1:00:10.240 face off, and it had these big teeth and they 1:00:10.280 --> 1:00:10.800 filed down. 1:00:10.800 --> 1:00:12.160 It was just a horrible thing. 1:00:12.240 --> 1:00:16.560 So, but I'd like to see a monkey movie. 1:00:16.760 --> 1:00:20.360 There's there's great movies about monkeys. Killing people. 1:00:20.440 --> 1:00:23.560 But yeah, this discuss or apes. 1:00:23.600 --> 1:00:27.200 Really this is a chimpanzee. I believe so, because you 1:00:27.200 --> 1:00:29.200 know there's a difference. You know, the difference from monkeys 1:00:29.200 --> 1:00:32.320 and apes is I mean, there's certain evolutionary things, but 1:00:32.920 --> 1:00:39.440 monkeys have tails, apes don't. And so chimpanzees, Bonobo's gorillas, orangutangs, 1:00:39.480 --> 1:00:43.120 those are apes. And you know, rangutangs are no joke either, 1:00:43.640 --> 1:00:46.400 you know they there was that orangutang in those way 1:00:46.440 --> 1:00:52.720 but loose Clyde, Yeah, yeah, no orangutangs. Man watch out 1:00:52.720 --> 1:00:53.080 for them. 1:00:54.640 --> 1:00:57.360 They look so sweet, but that's that they are. But 1:00:57.440 --> 1:00:59.520 you know that's the thing that people are drawn to them. 1:00:59.520 --> 1:01:01.240 I remember being a kid going to the zoo and 1:01:01.240 --> 1:01:02.840 I thought, oh, they look so sweet. I'd like to 1:01:02.840 --> 1:01:04.680 get in there early. You can't do that, and we 1:01:04.760 --> 1:01:08.080 know how it worked out here some years ago. Sideways too, 1:01:08.120 --> 1:01:10.040 But there's a big difference. 1:01:10.200 --> 1:01:10.560 Devin. 1:01:10.800 --> 1:01:14.000 You the Golden Globes are on this Sunday. Do you 1:01:14.040 --> 1:01:16.840 still care to watch those? Is this something that you've 1:01:16.840 --> 1:01:19.400 ever watched or or you know, is it is it 1:01:19.480 --> 1:01:20.160 interesting to. 1:01:20.120 --> 1:01:20.560 You at all? 1:01:21.400 --> 1:01:21.560 Well? 1:01:21.560 --> 1:01:24.040 I mean I've watched the Golden Globes bits and times. 1:01:24.080 --> 1:01:26.000 It's not. You know, it's it's sort of like the 1:01:26.040 --> 1:01:29.480 precursor to the Oscars. Yeah, we had Critics' Choice last week, 1:01:29.880 --> 1:01:32.400 and now we've got the Golden Globes, and then I'm 1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:34.520 going to do the Oscars in a couple and in 1:01:35.000 --> 1:01:37.120 a month or two. I don't even think they have 1:01:37.320 --> 1:01:39.960 they haven't even dropped the nominations. The problem is there's 1:01:39.960 --> 1:01:43.600 so many awards now, uh and and they're so publicized 1:01:43.840 --> 1:01:46.160 that by the time you get to the Oscars, you 1:01:46.200 --> 1:01:48.440 know who's gonna win, and you know who's gonna win 1:01:48.480 --> 1:01:50.720 this one. I mean, the only thing that makes this 1:01:51.000 --> 1:01:54.440 interesting with the Golden Globes is they've got the split category. 1:01:54.880 --> 1:01:57.800 You know, they go drama and then they have musical 1:01:57.880 --> 1:02:00.680 or comedy, right, and pretty much I think one Battle 1:02:00.680 --> 1:02:05.800 after another is gonna sweep because it's sweeping everything that's 1:02:05.800 --> 1:02:09.600 in the comedy section. So in the drama section, I 1:02:10.240 --> 1:02:14.440 think Sinners is it's Sinners to lose, but it's all 1:02:14.440 --> 1:02:17.600 gonna be it's all gonna kind of coalesce around one 1:02:17.640 --> 1:02:20.200 battle after another or sinners. You're gonna get a couple 1:02:20.200 --> 1:02:23.760 of average awards, not from those movies, you know, like 1:02:23.880 --> 1:02:26.880 Jesse Buckley might win Best Actress for Hamnet. 1:02:27.600 --> 1:02:30.360 But what about Timothy Shallo May. I mean he won 1:02:30.400 --> 1:02:33.040 the critics' choice. He's up against Leo DiCaprio. You think 1:02:33.360 --> 1:02:35.600 DiCaprio is gonna be Timothy Shallo May. 1:02:36.280 --> 1:02:40.560 I think Timothy Shallo May has has momentum on his side. 1:02:40.680 --> 1:02:42.560 I'm not a big fan. I am not what you 1:02:42.680 --> 1:02:43.760 call a Shala maniac. 1:02:44.840 --> 1:02:47.480 So many guys are not. It's sterling. It is the 1:02:47.520 --> 1:02:48.160 weirdest thing. 1:02:48.240 --> 1:02:51.600 Literally, when I ask guys about Timothy Shallo may as, 1:02:51.640 --> 1:02:54.160 I was asking Jack Crumley. He's not a huge fan either. 1:02:54.240 --> 1:02:57.000 It's so funny. Why is Tell me why you're not 1:02:57.040 --> 1:02:57.680 a huge fan? 1:02:57.800 --> 1:02:58.520 Kevin Well. 1:02:58.760 --> 1:03:00.520 I mean the guy can act. Look, I don't get 1:03:00.520 --> 1:03:04.040 me wrong. I believe he can act. But you know 1:03:04.160 --> 1:03:07.080 my biggest problem. Cut your dog on hair. You know 1:03:07.360 --> 1:03:12.280 he has the same hairstyle in every movie he does, 1:03:12.320 --> 1:03:17.560 whether it's Doom, Little Women or Wonk. I mean, he's 1:03:17.560 --> 1:03:21.240 got the same hair. Just get a style. You are 1:03:21.400 --> 1:03:24.880 dating a Jenner for crying out loud, you should have 1:03:24.920 --> 1:03:26.200 access to better hair, dudes. 1:03:26.560 --> 1:03:27.080 I see. 1:03:28.840 --> 1:03:30.840 Because I I for some reason for the longest time, 1:03:31.080 --> 1:03:33.240 and this lets you know how engaged involved I am, 1:03:33.240 --> 1:03:36.600 and what it means to me. I for some reason 1:03:36.640 --> 1:03:38.840 thought that the guy from the Bear was to the 1:03:39.160 --> 1:03:42.960 Tynathy Shallow, but Jeremy Allen was, Yeah, but they're not 1:03:43.000 --> 1:03:45.120 the same guy. 1:03:45.280 --> 1:03:48.080 He played Bruce Springstein. Yeah, that's his Award film. 1:03:48.120 --> 1:03:50.760 How did you like that Bruce Springstein film? 1:03:51.560 --> 1:03:54.040 It's okay, it's a little long. A lot of times 1:03:53.880 --> 1:03:57.840 they get long and drawn out. And one of the 1:03:57.880 --> 1:03:59.919 things that I felt the same way about Songs on Blue, 1:04:00.000 --> 1:04:03.320 which is a good song, a good movie, but half 1:04:03.360 --> 1:04:08.080 the movie is spent recreating the music, and I'm like, well, 1:04:08.080 --> 1:04:09.320 I can just go pick up the album. 1:04:10.320 --> 1:04:11.400 Yeah. 1:04:10.840 --> 1:04:14.960 Ye, to me, that's not super impressive. I mean sometimes 1:04:14.960 --> 1:04:17.000 it's done really well. I think Rocketman did it well 1:04:17.000 --> 1:04:20.800 in a Bolimian did as well. But yeah, I mean, 1:04:20.840 --> 1:04:22.960 if I really want to hear a good, good version 1:04:22.960 --> 1:04:26.000 of Born in the USA, I'm just gonna listen to 1:04:26.040 --> 1:04:26.960 the original recording. 1:04:27.840 --> 1:04:29.520 And I know I heard Dan Carroll the other night 1:04:29.600 --> 1:04:31.720 going on about this, and we discussed this that the 1:04:32.120 --> 1:04:35.880 you know, the movie that's out now is everybody seems 1:04:35.920 --> 1:04:40.600 to think it is somehow, uh a documentary or sort 1:04:40.640 --> 1:04:45.600 of like the Springsteen movie for uh, sweet Caroline, Guy. 1:04:45.480 --> 1:04:50.360 What's right that it's it's it's other people. 1:04:50.360 --> 1:04:53.040 There are people that are doing his show or acting, 1:04:53.200 --> 1:04:54.080 like what do you call it? 1:04:54.120 --> 1:04:54.320 You know? 1:04:54.360 --> 1:04:58.440 The impressed cover. 1:04:57.480 --> 1:04:58.080 Is what it is. 1:04:58.120 --> 1:04:59.840 It's a really weird thory. 1:05:00.280 --> 1:05:02.520 It is a true story. There was a documentary on 1:05:02.560 --> 1:05:06.560 this several years ago. But yeah, so yeah, it's that 1:05:06.920 --> 1:05:09.360 I think is a little little more interesting. But still 1:05:09.400 --> 1:05:13.120 it's like, look, you gotta really like Neil Diamond stuff. 1:05:13.120 --> 1:05:15.360 And they do some deep cuts in those. You know, 1:05:15.400 --> 1:05:19.040 they got Suliman as one of their big songs. Nobody 1:05:19.080 --> 1:05:19.520 knows that. 1:05:22.160 --> 1:05:25.360 It's just an odd thing, you know, is someone doing 1:05:25.400 --> 1:05:26.760 a cover acd ends up you get in the movie 1:05:26.760 --> 1:05:29.080 about them, but say it's heartwarming and all the other 1:05:29.080 --> 1:05:30.880 stuff that goes along with it. 1:05:30.360 --> 1:05:33.800 It's just all I haven't seen Avatar two. Did you 1:05:33.960 --> 1:05:36.360 like that? I mean everybody? It's getting pretty good reviews 1:05:36.400 --> 1:05:38.200 and it's certainly a big blockbuster. 1:05:38.360 --> 1:05:39.720 Did you like it, Kevin? 1:05:40.200 --> 1:05:42.520 Well, it's Avatar three. It's the third one actually, so 1:05:44.240 --> 1:05:45.960 the second one came out about three years ago. 1:05:46.160 --> 1:05:47.960 What did I say? Avatar two mean too? 1:05:48.240 --> 1:05:49.480 I just want to make sure you know that there 1:05:49.520 --> 1:05:53.080 was another one in between. They're very similar and they're good. 1:05:53.120 --> 1:05:55.080 They're spectacle, that's what they are. I mean, you want 1:05:55.120 --> 1:05:58.040 to see something with amazing special effects and great action. 1:05:58.680 --> 1:06:00.440 It's one of those movies that's worked. Going to go 1:06:00.440 --> 1:06:04.200 see an imax. It's actually worth checking him out in 1:06:04.280 --> 1:06:06.960 a high frame, right, even though it does kind of 1:06:06.960 --> 1:06:11.240 have that that so properly look to it. But yeah, 1:06:11.280 --> 1:06:14.479 it's a good movie. It's it's it's it's Cameron doing 1:06:14.600 --> 1:06:17.640 what he does very very well. So yeah, if you 1:06:17.640 --> 1:06:20.640 want the spectacle, but you know, as Sterling points out, 1:06:20.720 --> 1:06:22.920 you may want to get the catheter because it is 1:06:22.960 --> 1:06:23.760 three hours and eighteen. 1:06:24.040 --> 1:06:27.000 Yeah, that's long. That is that's little. I don't know 1:06:27.040 --> 1:06:29.240 a longer movie than that. Is there a longer movie 1:06:29.240 --> 1:06:30.160 than that three hours? 1:06:30.360 --> 1:06:33.560 Whether the Brutalist Brutalist last year was like four. 1:06:33.360 --> 1:06:35.240 Hours, Wow, that's brutal, and. 1:06:35.200 --> 1:06:38.160 I think I think Gone with the Wind is push 1:06:38.320 --> 1:06:42.240 pushes four hours. But yeah, they usually don't make them 1:06:42.280 --> 1:06:43.680 over three too much. 1:06:43.960 --> 1:06:47.800 Now, Hugh Jackman's doing this other thing too, which is 1:06:48.120 --> 1:06:51.400 this Death of Robin Hood movie or whatever else too 1:06:51.440 --> 1:06:53.840 that that seems a little better than than than the 1:06:53.920 --> 1:06:55.640 other thing. Does that look as good to you? And 1:06:55.640 --> 1:06:57.800 it tells a different story of robin Hood. I kind 1:06:57.800 --> 1:07:00.520 of seem interested in that rather than the warm and fuzzy, 1:07:00.560 --> 1:07:02.080 hold hands and sing song stuff. 1:07:02.400 --> 1:07:04.200 I mean, maybe maybe I'll get a problem. 1:07:05.040 --> 1:07:07.200 I think the thing is, they do so many different 1:07:07.280 --> 1:07:10.160 versions of Robinhood. I'm not terribly familiar with this new one. 1:07:10.640 --> 1:07:13.400 I think he should dress up as a fox, and 1:07:13.440 --> 1:07:16.040 you should have a guy who dresses up as as 1:07:16.080 --> 1:07:18.920 a bear, you know, and and and and just do 1:07:18.960 --> 1:07:21.640 it as the Disney version of Robinhood, but with really 1:07:21.680 --> 1:07:24.320 bad constumes. I think more interesting. 1:07:24.440 --> 1:07:26.960 That's a whole nother show. That's a whole nother angle. 1:07:27.360 --> 1:07:30.040 Anything else the consequence before he let you bounce off 1:07:30.040 --> 1:07:33.240 into enjoy the rest of your Kevin Carr Silver Gecko 1:07:33.280 --> 1:07:34.360 on Substack Weekend. 1:07:35.400 --> 1:07:37.000 No, I mean I think that that those are the 1:07:37.040 --> 1:07:39.480 big ones in the theaters you still got to. I 1:07:39.560 --> 1:07:41.720 still haven't seen any combat, and I really want to. 1:07:41.880 --> 1:07:44.240 It looks good because it looks so stupid. 1:07:44.520 --> 1:07:47.280 Yeah, well, the first movie was too. It wasn't even 1:07:47.280 --> 1:07:48.960 I don't think it was supposed to be funny. But 1:07:49.000 --> 1:07:51.280 I laughed through that whole ice Cube movie with Jennifer 1:07:51.320 --> 1:07:52.880 Lopez and John Boyd. 1:07:52.920 --> 1:07:59.520 When chewing the scenery and the worst Peruvian accent ever. 1:07:59.600 --> 1:08:03.200 I mean, and what I loved about what I love 1:08:03.200 --> 1:08:06.080 about this movie is it treats it like at least 1:08:06.080 --> 1:08:08.840 it seems to treat that one with reverence good, which 1:08:09.200 --> 1:08:13.520 it does not earn. And I do want to see it. 1:08:13.560 --> 1:08:16.439 I haven't gotten around to it yet because well, you know, 1:08:16.479 --> 1:08:18.280 there's a lot of other movies I had to see. 1:08:18.880 --> 1:08:20.559 You do what you can do, and it's all you can. 1:08:20.640 --> 1:08:22.559 We always appreciate your time and doing what you do. 1:08:22.680 --> 1:08:24.600 Go take a nap. We appreciate you giving us some 1:08:24.640 --> 1:08:27.719 time earlier than normal. Kevin Carr, silver Gecko on Substack, 1:08:27.800 --> 1:08:29.880 take care of yourself and avoid Greenland too. 1:08:29.920 --> 1:08:32.320 Apparently can't. 1:08:32.360 --> 1:08:34.559 I already did it, Im Sorry. 1:08:34.600 --> 1:08:36.479 I mean, you know, we're a lot. Apparently we were 1:08:36.479 --> 1:08:39.160 trying to get there anyway. But that's a whole other conversation, Kevin, 1:08:39.200 --> 1:08:41.519 take care of your Thanks, Kevin, appreciate it. You know, 1:08:41.800 --> 1:08:43.760 we got the eleven o'clock report coming up, and we're 1:08:43.760 --> 1:08:46.200 gonna talk about relationship stuff of a different kind then. 1:08:46.439 --> 1:08:49.200 But you mentioned something to me that I completely missed, 1:08:49.240 --> 1:08:50.479 and we got a little bit of time to talk 1:08:50.520 --> 1:08:52.320 about it. I want to understand. I thought it was 1:08:52.320 --> 1:08:54.360 a band. You're like, if you heard about the walking Monks, 1:08:54.600 --> 1:08:57.160 I'm like, oh, what are you talking about? Monks walking? 1:08:57.240 --> 1:09:02.639 Where peace wuk? So we were talking about such negative stuff. 1:09:02.680 --> 1:09:05.120 I'm like, can we throw in a little bit of positive? 1:09:05.200 --> 1:09:07.800 Because there have been monks that are been walking from 1:09:07.800 --> 1:09:12.680 Texas and they're walking to DC on a peace walk, right, 1:09:12.760 --> 1:09:15.120 and then there's all these people that know where their 1:09:15.200 --> 1:09:15.640 journey is. 1:09:15.680 --> 1:09:18.480 They're following them on a website. 1:09:18.560 --> 1:09:21.240 And they've got this cute dog, which you would love, 1:09:21.280 --> 1:09:24.840 a looca who they found in another country and now 1:09:24.880 --> 1:09:27.240 he's in the United States and he's walking with them 1:09:27.280 --> 1:09:30.280 as well, and they have support vehicles and things like that. 1:09:30.320 --> 1:09:32.960 Two of them actually got hit by a car and 1:09:33.000 --> 1:09:35.759 one of them lost half their leg and they're still 1:09:35.800 --> 1:09:36.360 on the walk. 1:09:36.439 --> 1:09:40.240 I mean, he's he lost his leg and they sowed 1:09:40.320 --> 1:09:42.280 him up and he's met the monks walking. 1:09:42.000 --> 1:09:45.799 In a wheelchair and they all paid respect because he, yes. 1:09:45.760 --> 1:09:47.559 Took the hit forever. Yes literally it is. 1:09:47.720 --> 1:09:50.040 It's literally, yes he did. 1:09:50.840 --> 1:09:53.800 It's a beautiful thing and a lot of people are 1:09:53.840 --> 1:09:58.400 affected by it, myself included, because to see these to 1:09:58.479 --> 1:10:04.440 see these beautiful walking for so many days, so many hours, 1:10:04.520 --> 1:10:08.240 and and being treated with such grace and respect because 1:10:08.280 --> 1:10:10.880 they were walking for peaces is lovely. 1:10:11.120 --> 1:10:11.360 I know. 1:10:12.240 --> 1:10:14.160 Do you think it's gonna do any good? 1:10:14.200 --> 1:10:14.400 Though? 1:10:14.479 --> 1:10:15.400 Does it make any. 1:10:15.360 --> 1:10:17.240 Does to me? It makes difference to me. 1:10:17.400 --> 1:10:20.599 But you're not wreaking havoc anyway. You're not at war. 1:10:21.240 --> 1:10:23.880 I mean, whoever's fighting wars now or not going? You know, 1:10:23.920 --> 1:10:27.280 those monks in the States on foot I lost a leg. 1:10:27.320 --> 1:10:27.759 You serious? 1:10:27.800 --> 1:10:30.519 They found a dog and they're all rolling around. I 1:10:30.520 --> 1:10:32.720 don't know that they're going to go and respectfully, I 1:10:32.720 --> 1:10:37.719 mean I respect that the protest or the peaceful effort 1:10:37.760 --> 1:10:39.639 to raise awareness and bring good to the world. 1:10:39.760 --> 1:10:41.680 Here's where I think it'll make a difference. You just 1:10:41.720 --> 1:10:42.519 asked me that question. 1:10:42.600 --> 1:10:46.799 Yeah, so parents, parents are pulling their kids and waiting 1:10:46.800 --> 1:10:49.040 for the monks, and they're in there, and they're saying, 1:10:49.080 --> 1:10:51.080 look at this is a once in a lifetime Say, 1:10:51.360 --> 1:10:53.120 have you ever met a monk in person? 1:10:53.320 --> 1:10:53.599 Once? 1:10:54.000 --> 1:10:54.400 You did? 1:10:54.800 --> 1:10:57.080 I never have. I've never met a monk. They were 1:10:57.080 --> 1:10:59.000 on campus when I was at school at Wright State. 1:10:59.040 --> 1:11:00.559 I don't know what they were doing. I came through, 1:11:00.640 --> 1:11:02.920 we nodded, and I was onto class or went to sleep. 1:11:02.920 --> 1:11:05.599 Okay, did you feel a certain Oh so you've never 1:11:05.640 --> 1:11:06.400 really met. 1:11:06.240 --> 1:11:08.600 Them, you've sing it down and talk well, but he 1:11:08.680 --> 1:11:10.000 had the monk gear on, you know. 1:11:11.240 --> 1:11:14.880 I mean, yes, living the monk life. But what I'm 1:11:14.880 --> 1:11:18.519 saying is there's a different level of energy they exue. Okay, 1:11:18.640 --> 1:11:22.599 So parents are actually bringing their kids to meet them, 1:11:22.680 --> 1:11:25.200 and and and and show them. Hey, this is a 1:11:25.240 --> 1:11:27.720 once in a lifetime thing. And I don't think those 1:11:27.760 --> 1:11:28.960 kids are ever going to forget it. 1:11:29.080 --> 1:11:31.320 I would hope they don't. I mean, it's a wonderful thing, 1:11:31.360 --> 1:11:33.400 and I appreciate that. I just don't know. I mean, 1:11:33.439 --> 1:11:35.320 maybe good for those kids and so forth, But I 1:11:35.320 --> 1:11:37.720 don't think any warring parties at this point go. You know, 1:11:38.120 --> 1:11:43.160 we were gonna blow up more stuff, but those damn 1:11:43.200 --> 1:11:46.160 monks in the States have really made us revalue me. 1:11:46.479 --> 1:11:47.519 Maybe there will be one. 1:11:47.560 --> 1:11:50.719 First, let's take a day off. You're eleven o'clock report 1:11:50.800 --> 1:11:52.720 straight away. I am not the profit of doom, no 1:11:52.760 --> 1:11:54.680 matter what Scott Sloan or at the day off at 1:11:54.720 --> 1:11:57.559 Sterling donnade On the home of the Red seven hundred 1:11:57.640 --> 1:12:03.040 w WELW, Cincinnati. To be an American, it's a Friday, 1:12:03.040 --> 1:12:06.280 Scott Sloan Show, Sam Scott Sloan Slow. He's in a 1:12:06.360 --> 1:12:10.040 day off, so it's us here, Sterling, Donnade hanging out. 1:12:10.320 --> 1:12:13.120 Hopefully a good Friday for you guys. Lots of stuff 1:12:13.160 --> 1:12:16.519 in the news, everything else going on, and a little 1:12:16.520 --> 1:12:20.240 bit later we'll talk on Bengals and so forth. And 1:12:21.680 --> 1:12:24.840 you're an animal lover. We try to have Cincinnati Animal 1:12:24.880 --> 1:12:27.679 Care on pretty regularly, try to help those in need 1:12:27.760 --> 1:12:31.720 with fostering, adoption, spang nootering, know all and sort of 1:12:31.720 --> 1:12:34.600 been that Bob Barker mode and so forth. You're fostering 1:12:34.600 --> 1:12:35.280 a dog right now? 1:12:35.360 --> 1:12:36.799 Yeah, I have a Stage five clinger. 1:12:37.280 --> 1:12:42.320 I mean he is literally you know, I can't go anywhere. 1:12:42.400 --> 1:12:46.120 So it's funny, Sterling, because I've never had a dog 1:12:46.280 --> 1:12:49.559 like this before. He's so sweet and I mean, this 1:12:49.680 --> 1:12:53.960 dog like looks right into my eyes. He's just he's bold, 1:12:54.120 --> 1:12:56.560 and he's fun and he's just he's crazy. He's not 1:12:56.600 --> 1:13:00.280 even a year old. But I started looking into his 1:13:00.400 --> 1:13:03.360 personality and what it means, and I found this really 1:13:03.400 --> 1:13:07.000 cool study about like the four signs. 1:13:06.520 --> 1:13:08.400 That your dog loves you. 1:13:08.479 --> 1:13:11.080 And they do these four things on a daily basis, 1:13:11.120 --> 1:13:15.200 and you might construe them is something different like clingy 1:13:15.600 --> 1:13:20.280 and you know, attachment issues and things like that. But 1:13:20.320 --> 1:13:23.240 these are actually and it makes sense to me. Four 1:13:23.320 --> 1:13:26.320 signs that your dog's things that they do every single day, 1:13:26.360 --> 1:13:29.200 little tiny signs that show you that they love you. 1:13:29.240 --> 1:13:30.920 And I thought this was so cute because you're a 1:13:30.920 --> 1:13:34.080 dog lover toos. So let's see if these crazy your 1:13:34.120 --> 1:13:36.679 dog crazy is on the list of things that he does. 1:13:36.680 --> 1:13:39.679 The first sign that your dog loves you these little 1:13:39.720 --> 1:13:41.920 tiny signs that they do every day when they follow 1:13:41.960 --> 1:13:46.360 you everywhere. They say, it's not attachment, it's safety. So 1:13:46.400 --> 1:13:48.599 the dog feels like, as long as I'm near you, 1:13:48.800 --> 1:13:49.400 I'm okay. 1:13:49.800 --> 1:13:51.040 Yeah, does crazy do that? 1:13:51.400 --> 1:13:51.760 He does? 1:13:51.840 --> 1:13:54.439 But see he's in a weird place right now, and 1:13:54.560 --> 1:13:58.080 that donnad I think he's testing me. It's like adolescents. 1:13:58.840 --> 1:14:00.880 He acts like he wants to be close, but really 1:14:00.920 --> 1:14:03.080 he wants to like find a way to steal cat 1:14:03.120 --> 1:14:07.680 food or whatever else. He's constantly testing. But yeah, he 1:14:07.720 --> 1:14:08.320 does follow me. 1:14:08.320 --> 1:14:09.720 All yeah, it's so cute. All right. 1:14:09.760 --> 1:14:12.280 So number two sign when your dog brings you like 1:14:12.360 --> 1:14:17.000 these random items like socks or they're toys, it means 1:14:17.040 --> 1:14:20.240 that you know, they share what they value most with 1:14:20.360 --> 1:14:24.360 the person they love. So this you know, my foster 1:14:24.439 --> 1:14:28.080 dog Gus, he has this blue ball and he puts 1:14:28.120 --> 1:14:28.760 it in his mouth. 1:14:28.840 --> 1:14:30.200 It is a giant ball and. 1:14:30.160 --> 1:14:33.920 He already has a huge head. His body is his head, 1:14:34.240 --> 1:14:37.519 yes exactly. He weighs forty two pounds and twenty of 1:14:37.520 --> 1:14:39.840 it is his head and he's got this giant mouth. 1:14:39.880 --> 1:14:40.800 This is the biggest ball. 1:14:41.040 --> 1:14:43.680 He doesn't want to give it up at all, but 1:14:43.760 --> 1:14:46.080 he brings it to me all the time. It is 1:14:46.240 --> 1:14:49.559 really lays on my lap. Yeah, he loves with this 1:14:49.640 --> 1:14:50.519 ball in his mouth. 1:14:50.600 --> 1:14:52.640 So knows you saved him. He's all like, you know, 1:14:52.800 --> 1:14:56.560 and he wants to stay like, hey, he does. You 1:14:56.600 --> 1:14:59.160 haven't had like a ceremony a fool on a dophin, right, 1:14:59.160 --> 1:15:01.200 you're still just he knows. 1:15:01.439 --> 1:15:03.720 I have co fosters that when I travel, they're going 1:15:03.800 --> 1:15:04.759 to take them and it's great. 1:15:04.920 --> 1:15:05.240 Okay. 1:15:05.320 --> 1:15:08.920 Number three, when they lean on you or press into 1:15:08.960 --> 1:15:11.160 your leg, that's comforting for them. 1:15:11.320 --> 1:15:13.639 That's that's your home to them. 1:15:13.760 --> 1:15:17.320 So that's when they you know, they lean into your leg, 1:15:17.360 --> 1:15:18.880 it's kind of like giving you a hug. 1:15:19.280 --> 1:15:21.280 It's fine when they're small, but when they're you know, 1:15:21.360 --> 1:15:24.280 seventy eighty pounds dog, or when you're trying to work, 1:15:24.320 --> 1:15:25.920 like when I work at home lot all of the 1:15:25.960 --> 1:15:28.240 time and the dog on my foot wants to be 1:15:28.479 --> 1:15:30.160 Can I get in the chair? No, there's no room 1:15:30.240 --> 1:15:32.320 for you in the chair. So that's love, it's not 1:15:32.720 --> 1:15:35.240 it's love. It's a sign that they love you. And 1:15:35.320 --> 1:15:38.680 the forest sign is when they sit near you quietly. 1:15:39.360 --> 1:15:43.400 It's a sign of loyalty. It's love without conditions and. 1:15:43.280 --> 1:15:46.320 Making sure that you're safe, right, So they're just kind 1:15:46.320 --> 1:15:49.439 of keeping guard. There was there was a time where 1:15:49.800 --> 1:15:53.080 I have doggy door, and the first couple of weeks 1:15:53.920 --> 1:15:56.879 this my foster dog Gus would get up like forty 1:15:56.920 --> 1:15:59.040 times in the middle of the night, go out the 1:15:59.040 --> 1:16:02.120 doggy door and then jump back on him. I literally 1:16:02.160 --> 1:16:04.559 put in chat GPT what does this mean? And I 1:16:04.640 --> 1:16:08.080 came and it was him checking the house. He was 1:16:08.120 --> 1:16:10.680 on patrol. He was on patrol, so I had to 1:16:10.680 --> 1:16:15.240 block the doggie door at night so that he could rest. 1:16:15.320 --> 1:16:18.160 And it's a time for him to get off patrolling 1:16:18.400 --> 1:16:20.479 the house. He could rest and let it go. I 1:16:20.520 --> 1:16:23.720 actually had a conversation. You had a conversation with him, 1:16:23.760 --> 1:16:26.000 and they said you can rest. It's okay, this is 1:16:26.040 --> 1:16:28.080 time to sleep. You don't have to be on patrol 1:16:28.400 --> 1:16:29.200 and watch the house. 1:16:29.280 --> 1:16:31.439 And it worked. You never did it again after. 1:16:31.240 --> 1:16:33.559 A You talked to him a lot. I talked to 1:16:33.600 --> 1:16:35.840 that dog all the time. Yeah, so I'm not the 1:16:36.000 --> 1:16:38.120 do you talk like? I mean, what kind of conversations 1:16:38.160 --> 1:16:39.599 do you have with the dog? I mean, I mean 1:16:39.640 --> 1:16:41.920 it's just about his behaviors? What's going on? Do you 1:16:41.920 --> 1:16:44.880 have like philosophical questions? What do you do when you 1:16:44.920 --> 1:16:46.600 talk to you? I talked to my dog when I 1:16:46.640 --> 1:16:48.519 walk the dog, and I think people see it and 1:16:48.560 --> 1:16:50.080 they don't know if I have an ear button I'm 1:16:50.120 --> 1:16:51.600 on the phone, or if the me and they're like, oh, 1:16:51.640 --> 1:16:52.519 it's that guy again. 1:16:52.880 --> 1:16:55.200 Well, I think they like the tone of your voice 1:16:55.200 --> 1:16:57.439 and they like to know that they're paying you're paying 1:16:57.479 --> 1:17:01.120 attention to them. So I'll just did you like your 1:17:01.120 --> 1:17:02.400 dinner last night? 1:17:02.880 --> 1:17:06.360 Was it good? And a waggis tail? And are you 1:17:06.400 --> 1:17:09.640 ready to get some sleep? But you feel good? You know? 1:17:09.760 --> 1:17:11.840 I put before I left for the station, I put 1:17:11.880 --> 1:17:14.320 him in his little area and I'll be right back. 1:17:14.400 --> 1:17:17.320 Here's your bone, here's your water, here's your this, here's 1:17:17.360 --> 1:17:20.800 your that, so yeah, I think it's like, you know, 1:17:20.960 --> 1:17:23.200 just because they can't talk back to you doesn't mean 1:17:23.960 --> 1:17:27.839 there's a million benefits too. And we're not here to promote. 1:17:27.840 --> 1:17:30.120 But I always love Cincinnati Animal Care. They do some 1:17:30.160 --> 1:17:32.200 great work in this industry. And if you want to foster, 1:17:32.560 --> 1:17:35.000 go on the website it may They make it so easy. 1:17:35.240 --> 1:17:37.000 And if you want to adopt a dog, it is 1:17:37.040 --> 1:17:39.240 so great to do that. But one of the other 1:17:39.320 --> 1:17:42.240 benefits I want to talk about in fostering and adopting 1:17:42.280 --> 1:17:45.400 and having a dog is when you walk them. 1:17:45.479 --> 1:17:46.759 Dog Owners walk. 1:17:47.200 --> 1:17:51.880 We walk an average of three thousand steps more than 1:17:51.960 --> 1:17:55.240 non dog walkers a day, so you will get an 1:17:55.240 --> 1:17:58.160 average of three thousand And I think one of the 1:17:58.200 --> 1:18:00.680 greatest exercises, and I've been a yoga instruccher for a 1:18:00.680 --> 1:18:04.240 long time, walking is one of the greatest moving your body. 1:18:04.479 --> 1:18:05.519 Running is great. 1:18:05.960 --> 1:18:10.599 Walking everyone can do and you know, ten thousand steps 1:18:10.720 --> 1:18:12.360 a day is great. 1:18:12.360 --> 1:18:15.320 Certainly attainable with my dog. I gotta say Sterling and Donade. 1:18:15.400 --> 1:18:17.320 By the way, in for Scott Sloane, He's enjoying a 1:18:17.360 --> 1:18:19.880 Friday off, hopefully and enjoying it anyway. Hopefully you are 1:18:19.920 --> 1:18:24.920 too appreciate you being along my dog. We walk a lot, 1:18:24.960 --> 1:18:26.400 but I don't know what I'm getting out of it. 1:18:26.439 --> 1:18:30.120 First of all, he's like fifteen pounds right, and his 1:18:30.240 --> 1:18:32.320 legs are short, but he tends to walk at a 1:18:32.400 --> 1:18:34.639 quick clip. We do three, maybe four or five miles 1:18:34.680 --> 1:18:37.480 a day. He likes this warmer weather. He's loving it. Yeah, 1:18:37.520 --> 1:18:39.640 it's a tiring thing for me, although I like the 1:18:39.680 --> 1:18:42.920 warm But my problem is he's got to stop and 1:18:42.960 --> 1:18:45.200 get his sniffs in, and then he's got to hike 1:18:45.240 --> 1:18:48.080 his leg on every random shrub and bush and light 1:18:48.160 --> 1:18:50.760 post and everything else that goes along with it. So 1:18:50.880 --> 1:18:53.599 I'm not really getting the benefit of the walk. We're 1:18:53.600 --> 1:18:55.720 not really walking like you know, if I was at 1:18:55.760 --> 1:18:58.000 with the mall walkers wherever you know, Kenwood Town Center 1:18:58.040 --> 1:19:01.200 or wherever else, I would. But you can't just drag 1:19:01.280 --> 1:19:05.080 him along. No, it's his walk. It's it's not for me. 1:19:05.160 --> 1:19:05.800 It's for him. 1:19:06.240 --> 1:19:08.280 Well it is, but it can be for both of 1:19:08.280 --> 1:19:09.559 you because even if you're outside. 1:19:09.600 --> 1:19:11.200 But yes, I do understand that. 1:19:11.280 --> 1:19:13.840 It's like my sister calls it their social media where 1:19:13.840 --> 1:19:16.680 they get to like sniff and look and say hi, 1:19:16.800 --> 1:19:19.479 and you're under the blue sky and everything else. But 1:19:20.120 --> 1:19:22.200 you are out in nature, so it's kind of a 1:19:22.200 --> 1:19:25.960 big deal too, and you are still getting steps in 1:19:26.200 --> 1:19:29.599 even though it might not be the normal kind when 1:19:29.640 --> 1:19:30.719 you're walking by yourself. 1:19:30.800 --> 1:19:34.120 Do you do you think you have a good understanding 1:19:34.240 --> 1:19:37.000 of what Gus or any other dog that you've had, 1:19:37.040 --> 1:19:39.920 like Puka, what have you, and what they mean with 1:19:39.960 --> 1:19:43.200 the barks, like some stuff is obvious. Yeah, right, But 1:19:43.960 --> 1:19:45.080 my dog's a Schnauzer. 1:19:45.400 --> 1:19:45.599 Yeah. 1:19:46.120 --> 1:19:48.920 And I did not go hunting for him. I found him. 1:19:48.920 --> 1:19:53.360 He was a street dog. And I don't know that 1:19:53.400 --> 1:19:56.080 I really want to know what he's saying. Is incessant barking. 1:19:56.120 --> 1:19:58.960 He's bred to bark, and at times I can tell 1:19:59.000 --> 1:20:01.479 he's frustrated for to tell me what he wants me 1:20:01.520 --> 1:20:04.080 to understand, and I have no clue that. On the 1:20:04.120 --> 1:20:06.360 other hand, I don't know that I want to know 1:20:06.400 --> 1:20:07.080 what he's saying. 1:20:08.160 --> 1:20:11.920 Well, if I if I could figure out what any 1:20:12.000 --> 1:20:14.240 dog is saying, I would love to speak animal. I 1:20:14.280 --> 1:20:17.000 would love to be able to decipher what animals are saying. 1:20:17.920 --> 1:20:22.120 But this one ironically doesn't bark that much. It's his 1:20:22.200 --> 1:20:26.840 saving grace. I will tell you that he is he is. 1:20:27.720 --> 1:20:30.640 He barks when he hears a noise, that's pretty much it. 1:20:30.880 --> 1:20:33.120 Does everyone talk to their pets? I mean, like around 1:20:33.120 --> 1:20:35.880 the house, Like, here's the thing, are you talking to yourself? 1:20:35.920 --> 1:20:37.400 Are you talking? I'm just talking to the dog. 1:20:37.560 --> 1:20:39.040 Well, I don't know if it's any either way better 1:20:39.080 --> 1:20:41.919 if you're just randomly walking and talking to yourself and muttering, 1:20:42.880 --> 1:20:45.160 And what's the difference, really, I mean, if I'm just 1:20:45.160 --> 1:20:47.240 in the neighborhood on my own walking, like I just 1:20:47.280 --> 1:20:49.400 trying to get my steps for some reason, I just 1:20:49.439 --> 1:20:52.320 getting steps and I'm and I don't have an earbud in. 1:20:52.360 --> 1:20:55.439 I'm not talking to you or somebody else. I'm just 1:20:55.479 --> 1:20:57.760 the weird guy in the neighborhood talking to himself when 1:20:57.800 --> 1:20:59.240 people are going to start watching. 1:21:00.040 --> 1:21:02.160 I mean, does everyone talk to their dog? 1:21:03.160 --> 1:21:06.479 I don't know, but I will say when when I'm 1:21:06.560 --> 1:21:10.200 out walking and I run into another human that has 1:21:10.240 --> 1:21:13.559 a dog, usually most people will talk to the dog 1:21:14.000 --> 1:21:15.519 instead of the other person. 1:21:15.720 --> 1:21:18.519 No neighbor's dog names and not neighbors names exactly. 1:21:18.680 --> 1:21:21.679 So I mean, I do think I don't know why 1:21:21.720 --> 1:21:24.400 it's a comforting thing to like you, Oh, look. 1:21:24.240 --> 1:21:25.080 How cute you are. 1:21:25.160 --> 1:21:27.639 Look at your scarf, Look at your cute little jacket 1:21:27.920 --> 1:21:28.639 that you have on. 1:21:28.760 --> 1:21:32.760 Most people talk to Gus more than me. It's just 1:21:32.840 --> 1:21:33.479 so funny. 1:21:33.760 --> 1:21:36.240 I just think it's a comforting thing for people like 1:21:37.360 --> 1:21:40.280 to talk to the animals. But I mean, i'd like 1:21:40.360 --> 1:21:42.599 to think that people talk to their dogs. 1:21:42.640 --> 1:21:45.880 Well, we can't be two crazy people compared to everyone 1:21:45.880 --> 1:21:50.759 else and we don't meet. Mental health is a serious issue, okay, problem, please, 1:21:50.760 --> 1:21:52.479 all right, But I mean I can't just be the 1:21:52.479 --> 1:21:55.639 two of us five one, three, seven hundred, the big one. 1:21:55.640 --> 1:21:57.760 Do you notice these signs that Donna mentioned about your 1:21:57.760 --> 1:22:00.280 dog loving you? Are you talking to your pa? Do 1:22:00.320 --> 1:22:03.240 you have conversations? Is it just you talking to yourself? 1:22:03.439 --> 1:22:04.519 Are we crazy people? 1:22:04.520 --> 1:22:05.680 I have many questions. 1:22:06.000 --> 1:22:08.120 I'm looking for answers to let's get to ed and 1:22:08.200 --> 1:22:11.000 Springfield with Stirling and Donnade, and for Sloany on a Friday? 1:22:11.040 --> 1:22:11.559 What's going on? 1:22:11.720 --> 1:22:11.800 Ed? 1:22:13.240 --> 1:22:13.479 Hey? 1:22:13.520 --> 1:22:14.439 How you doing good? 1:22:14.479 --> 1:22:15.200 Good? What's up? 1:22:16.280 --> 1:22:19.320 Okay? Well, I'm just said I've had several dogs. Actually 1:22:19.360 --> 1:22:21.760 all of them are named after football players, so I'm 1:22:21.840 --> 1:22:24.960 kind of weird. But absolutely I talked. I talked to 1:22:25.000 --> 1:22:27.360 my dogs. They give me better answers than my kids do. 1:22:28.120 --> 1:22:31.800 So I mean I got right now, right now I 1:22:31.840 --> 1:22:33.880 got a black and tan hound. I had to put 1:22:33.880 --> 1:22:36.120 two of the other ones down, so I also got 1:22:36.160 --> 1:22:41.920 a carrier boxer mix and my hound. Nobody can walk 1:22:41.960 --> 1:22:44.400 past the front of my house without him letting me 1:22:44.520 --> 1:22:49.320 know somebody's on the sidewalk. And originally I got he 1:22:49.400 --> 1:22:51.240 had a brother, and I got the brother as well, 1:22:51.240 --> 1:22:55.160 but he had to be put down because I work 1:22:55.240 --> 1:22:57.759 at night, and I left my wife and my two. 1:22:57.640 --> 1:22:58.400 Children at home. 1:22:58.960 --> 1:23:01.600 And I'm like, if anybody's stupid enough to try to 1:23:03.280 --> 1:23:05.880 with these dogs going nuts, But they make sense if you, 1:23:06.240 --> 1:23:09.920 if you understand what they're doing. My dog tells me 1:23:10.040 --> 1:23:14.040 things like what like like what, I'm not like a 1:23:14.080 --> 1:23:17.720 dog whisper right now. We found out a couple of 1:23:17.800 --> 1:23:23.400 days ago he's got diabetes, which is unfortunate when he 1:23:23.600 --> 1:23:24.960 needs his shot. 1:23:24.720 --> 1:23:25.439 For his food. 1:23:26.720 --> 1:23:28.920 It's a different thing. It's not he doesn't come in 1:23:28.960 --> 1:23:31.040 there and just spark in our face. He does like 1:23:31.120 --> 1:23:35.120 a moan, like a whine, like hey, I'm not feeling 1:23:35.200 --> 1:23:36.680 so good. You need to get up and help me 1:23:36.680 --> 1:23:38.719 because it can be in the middle of the night. Sure, 1:23:39.040 --> 1:23:41.479 So you just have to You have to learn how 1:23:41.479 --> 1:23:45.519 to what do they call that? Well, read them or 1:23:45.600 --> 1:23:48.840 translate whatever they're saying. But all my dogs talk to me. 1:23:48.880 --> 1:23:50.439 I can talk to the one dog right now. If 1:23:50.479 --> 1:23:52.599 I'm making noise, he makes a noise back, and it's 1:23:52.640 --> 1:23:53.240 just a game. 1:23:53.479 --> 1:23:54.080 That's awesome. 1:23:54.160 --> 1:23:57.679 And like I said, we got a tattoo and the cat. 1:23:57.840 --> 1:24:00.320 You know, the cat just does his thing. He comes 1:24:00.320 --> 1:24:03.120 around when he wants to be headed, but other than that, 1:24:03.320 --> 1:24:06.360 he just does his own thing. But absolutely dogs talk. 1:24:06.640 --> 1:24:07.240 They talk to you. 1:24:07.280 --> 1:24:09.640 Just you gotta sit down and listen to him and 1:24:09.680 --> 1:24:10.680 figure out what's going on. 1:24:10.720 --> 1:24:14.560 You got dog. That's the reason why department. 1:24:14.160 --> 1:24:16.040 And the one the other. The one other thing is 1:24:16.120 --> 1:24:20.360 I was totally against cages when I had my first 1:24:20.400 --> 1:24:23.720 dog when I was a young kid. But when me 1:24:23.760 --> 1:24:26.000 and my wife got married, they suggest that we do 1:24:26.120 --> 1:24:30.960 cages because that lets the dogs know that it's their 1:24:31.040 --> 1:24:35.479 time off. They're off duties. Yeah, they're off duty, so 1:24:35.520 --> 1:24:37.360 they can go to sleep. They don't have to worry 1:24:37.360 --> 1:24:40.840 about anything. And now he here's a noise, he's gonna 1:24:41.240 --> 1:24:44.280 probably rip the cage. It lets him know that there's 1:24:44.320 --> 1:24:45.639 nothing to worry about right now. 1:24:45.680 --> 1:24:46.519 Like everything's good. 1:24:46.520 --> 1:24:50.639 We're all going to sleep. Go in there and lay 1:24:50.640 --> 1:24:52.519 on your little patted dead and the thing now, we 1:24:52.560 --> 1:24:54.040 only put one of them in there now, but the 1:24:54.080 --> 1:24:56.120 other one's growing up that he Actually, I don't want 1:24:56.120 --> 1:24:57.679 to say somebody sleeps in the bed. 1:24:57.560 --> 1:25:02.720 With us for me, my ex I mean it was 1:25:02.920 --> 1:25:04.680 it was a menager and I appreciate the call me 1:25:04.680 --> 1:25:06.479 and thank you for sharing that too. And I know 1:25:06.479 --> 1:25:08.479 we're not the only ones, but we'd have like two 1:25:08.600 --> 1:25:10.559 three dogs to be a cat. And the only thing 1:25:10.560 --> 1:25:13.320 that wasn't in the bed was the turtle. Thank God 1:25:13.360 --> 1:25:15.519 for that. To Levin and Lynn was sterling and Donna 1:25:15.560 --> 1:25:16.880 die on the big one. Do you talk to your 1:25:16.920 --> 1:25:19.680 pets and how often? What kind of conversations do you have? 1:25:20.800 --> 1:25:23.559 Oh my gosh, the talking to the pet is routine 1:25:23.600 --> 1:25:25.080 because now the pets the. 1:25:25.040 --> 1:25:27.800 Dog, our dog expects the talk. 1:25:28.400 --> 1:25:31.840 Yes, yeah, I mean she's a. 1:25:31.920 --> 1:25:33.200 Routine on her talking. 1:25:33.240 --> 1:25:35.800 Every time I come down in the morning, you know 1:25:35.960 --> 1:25:39.120 she's there and rah rah. But no, I told you, 1:25:40.520 --> 1:25:42.400 I used to be a dog warden and I've probably 1:25:42.479 --> 1:25:46.240 had fifty dogs and now I'm down to one dog, 1:25:46.280 --> 1:25:51.040 which is hard, but you get to the point you 1:25:51.040 --> 1:25:55.160 have to downsize. But I carry on conversations with my dogs, 1:25:55.320 --> 1:25:58.280 and I think, oh, gosh, people around me must think 1:25:58.320 --> 1:26:01.280 I'm crazy, and oh gosh, so because my dog is 1:26:01.280 --> 1:26:02.519 the smartest. 1:26:01.960 --> 1:26:04.960 Person in the room. They are most of the time. 1:26:05.479 --> 1:26:08.160 They're limited, but they're just at a base level where 1:26:08.160 --> 1:26:10.080 if you just live more like a dog, I think 1:26:10.080 --> 1:26:11.080 we'd all be better off. 1:26:11.600 --> 1:26:14.960 Dogs and the best, aren't they, Len They are. 1:26:14.960 --> 1:26:15.920 Donna, they are. 1:26:16.280 --> 1:26:20.360 And I have just recently started going to shelters to 1:26:20.479 --> 1:26:25.680 walk dogs. You're talking about what the dogs need to 1:26:25.760 --> 1:26:26.400 be walked? 1:26:26.760 --> 1:26:27.479 Yeah, hard. 1:26:27.640 --> 1:26:29.559 It gives them a break, doesn't it, So they can 1:26:29.600 --> 1:26:32.200 decompress a little bit and feel a little normalcy with 1:26:32.280 --> 1:26:33.559 humans too, which helps them. 1:26:33.680 --> 1:26:34.000 Maybe. 1:26:34.000 --> 1:26:36.360 On the other side, find someone who you know sees 1:26:36.400 --> 1:26:39.920 them is a more I guess, viable candidate to take home. 1:26:41.160 --> 1:26:43.800 Yes, Sterling, that's for sure. And Donna, thank you so 1:26:43.920 --> 1:26:45.240 much for everything. 1:26:44.840 --> 1:26:45.400 That you do. 1:26:46.320 --> 1:26:50.840 I really really appreciate people like you like, thank you 1:26:50.920 --> 1:26:53.000 for have thank you for having her on. 1:26:53.280 --> 1:26:59.040 Well, well, yeah, we're working together. We're working together all 1:26:59.040 --> 1:26:59.360 the time. 1:26:59.520 --> 1:27:02.280 Yeah no, and thank you for. 1:27:02.200 --> 1:27:05.800 Showing up and lynn all of us as we talk 1:27:05.880 --> 1:27:07.200 to our But you know what I'd like to get 1:27:07.240 --> 1:27:09.840 someone in answer for this. My dog will not eat 1:27:09.880 --> 1:27:13.400 his food unless I'm there, or he had or I 1:27:13.439 --> 1:27:15.439 have to be gone for like I if I'm out 1:27:15.479 --> 1:27:17.120 of town or you know, I'm gone for a couple 1:27:17.160 --> 1:27:19.040 of days and he's staying with someone else. I mean 1:27:19.080 --> 1:27:21.800 he like waits till desperation to eat his food. But 1:27:23.000 --> 1:27:25.640 if I leave the room and he thinks or he 1:27:25.880 --> 1:27:30.200 has any inkling that he can go hijack the cat's food, 1:27:30.640 --> 1:27:32.240 whether he has to climb up on a table, I 1:27:32.280 --> 1:27:34.200 mean he has to like navigate his way up and 1:27:34.240 --> 1:27:36.720 over a gate. He will do that he can't get 1:27:36.760 --> 1:27:39.320 back over. But he won't eat the dog food alone. 1:27:39.360 --> 1:27:41.479 He'll eat the cat food all day long because he's 1:27:41.520 --> 1:27:42.080 histing it. 1:27:42.320 --> 1:27:47.439 That is crazy, crazy, Yeah, So put that in chat 1:27:47.479 --> 1:27:48.960 shept and they'll give you an answer. 1:27:49.040 --> 1:27:52.519 I mean it, I don't think the a I can. 1:27:52.640 --> 1:27:56.040 Try it, I'm telling you, but that is interesting. I 1:27:56.040 --> 1:27:58.439 mean the dog when I put the well, he's only 1:27:58.439 --> 1:27:59.920 he's not even here. How old is crazy? 1:28:00.400 --> 1:28:01.160 It's like ten. 1:28:02.600 --> 1:28:02.720 There. 1:28:02.920 --> 1:28:05.599 Yeah, so this one's up, you know, not even a year. 1:28:05.800 --> 1:28:08.360 So he's got the puppy energy and so anytime I 1:28:08.439 --> 1:28:11.439 put anything in his bowl, it's gone within seconds. 1:28:11.560 --> 1:28:12.760 I mean literally, I'm like. 1:28:12.920 --> 1:28:16.040 Can you slow it? Down, you're gonna get digestive issues. 1:28:16.520 --> 1:28:19.599 I mean, he eats it so fast. It's crazy that 1:28:20.479 --> 1:28:22.479 your dog waits for you to be there. 1:28:22.520 --> 1:28:25.080 It's weird. It's interesting and it makes me feel better. 1:28:25.120 --> 1:28:27.120 They're like, oh, you didn't eat. I'm like, well, I 1:28:27.160 --> 1:28:29.800 don't know what to tell you. Is he okay? No, 1:28:29.880 --> 1:28:31.479 he just doesn't like it. As if you have cat food, 1:28:31.520 --> 1:28:33.599 you have a cat, just leave the cat food down. 1:28:33.640 --> 1:28:35.920 He'll leave the cat food, yeah, which is horrible for them, 1:28:36.160 --> 1:28:38.320 their kidneys and all that. But it's just a strange thing. 1:28:38.479 --> 1:28:40.920 Five point three seven four nine seven eight hundred the 1:28:40.960 --> 1:28:44.200 big one. Uh do you talk to your pets? It's 1:28:44.280 --> 1:28:45.880 just a very strange issue, and I want to I 1:28:45.920 --> 1:28:48.479 had a couple of people remark to me on social 1:28:49.120 --> 1:28:52.599 about my comments about the monks. I respect the monks. 1:28:52.720 --> 1:28:55.519 I have an admiration for the monks. I wasn't attacking 1:28:55.560 --> 1:28:59.200 the walking monks. I was just simply saying, Unfortunately, I 1:28:59.240 --> 1:29:03.360 don't believe that the attention drawn and the harm that 1:29:03.479 --> 1:29:07.320 came the way of the one guy who lost one 1:29:07.320 --> 1:29:09.800 of his legs in part because someone went around the 1:29:09.840 --> 1:29:12.160 safety vehicle, which is a problem for anyone on the 1:29:12.200 --> 1:29:15.000 side of the interstate, let alone working on the highway 1:29:15.080 --> 1:29:17.320 like for O Dot or something like that. That's how 1:29:17.360 --> 1:29:20.879 that accident happened with him. I just don't respectfully believe 1:29:21.320 --> 1:29:25.599 that those who are in the business of executing wars 1:29:26.120 --> 1:29:29.479 are going, you know, those monks in the States walking 1:29:29.560 --> 1:29:33.120 you know, from Texas to DC like two thousand miles 1:29:33.200 --> 1:29:36.479 or whatever it is. We should put our arms down 1:29:36.520 --> 1:29:40.000 and stop the bombing. I just don't think that that's 1:29:40.080 --> 1:29:42.799 the you know, the benefit that comes from it. Everyone 1:29:42.800 --> 1:29:45.840 else being thoughtful of them and respecting them is what 1:29:46.000 --> 1:29:46.679 comes of that. 1:29:46.680 --> 1:29:47.640 That's all I meant by that. 1:29:47.880 --> 1:29:51.400 No, and I know I know we're not again, No, 1:29:51.479 --> 1:29:52.080 of course not. 1:29:55.280 --> 1:29:56.719 But that's a whole other story. 1:29:56.960 --> 1:29:59.080 No, but you know, when I teach YOUO guy, I 1:29:59.080 --> 1:30:01.920 always talk about if Earth piece through self peace, So 1:30:02.080 --> 1:30:06.519 if you can even if and we're maybe they're not 1:30:06.640 --> 1:30:10.160 trying to get to the highest powers who create wars 1:30:10.200 --> 1:30:13.320 and things like that, but each individual, like if I 1:30:13.360 --> 1:30:17.880 think what happens is when we demand certain things from 1:30:17.960 --> 1:30:20.360 our politicians, even though it's kind of been ignored a 1:30:20.439 --> 1:30:26.120 little bit that but if we are become peaceful within ourselves, 1:30:26.160 --> 1:30:27.040 it kind of spreads. 1:30:27.200 --> 1:30:28.640 That's where they're looking to. 1:30:28.760 --> 1:30:30.920 So if they can touch one person and another person 1:30:31.240 --> 1:30:33.760 can be peaceful in their community and their home and 1:30:33.800 --> 1:30:36.879 their environment, then it just kind of spreads. 1:30:37.000 --> 1:30:38.000 Yeah, that's true. 1:30:38.479 --> 1:30:41.200 Eleven third reports coming up sooner than later and updated 1:30:41.200 --> 1:30:43.080 on what's going on all over the place, whether it's 1:30:43.360 --> 1:30:46.679 what's gone down in Minneapolis to Portland, Oregon, to issues 1:30:46.720 --> 1:30:49.280 here that are sort of bewildering too. Talking about the 1:30:49.360 --> 1:30:51.800 allegation of perhaps maybe a settlement being worked on in 1:30:51.840 --> 1:30:55.960 some fashion for the hinting shooting situation with the fleeing 1:30:56.000 --> 1:30:58.920 suspect and that car heist, and then of course his 1:30:59.000 --> 1:31:03.720 father's ran down Deputy sheriff on detail work after that, 1:31:03.840 --> 1:31:07.040 clearly in retaliation. So all those news stories and other 1:31:07.080 --> 1:31:10.200 stuff going on straight away. We're back together again on 1:31:10.280 --> 1:31:12.160 Sunday afternoon too, right. 1:31:12.120 --> 1:31:15.000 Yes, we are twelve to three big big games on Sunday. 1:31:15.200 --> 1:31:19.120 Tak a lot of NFL football this weekend playoffs sans Bengals, 1:31:19.120 --> 1:31:22.439 but Duke Tobin's going to be speaking publicly about the 1:31:22.479 --> 1:31:25.760 Bengals and their plans, and he does not speak to 1:31:26.080 --> 1:31:28.840 the public very often, so we'll dive into that after 1:31:28.880 --> 1:31:30.880 you're eleven third of your port and a whole lot 1:31:30.920 --> 1:31:32.880 more to do, having some fun for sloaning on a 1:31:32.880 --> 1:31:39.280 Friday at Sterling and Donnade on seven hundred WLW. 1:31:38.120 --> 1:31:40.559 Scott Sloan Show for a Friday. He's not here. 1:31:40.800 --> 1:31:43.360 It's ut me Sterling and Austin Omar. People like to 1:31:43.360 --> 1:31:47.560 call him Audi hearing the team hearing about since he 1:31:47.640 --> 1:31:50.200 three sixty with Tony Pike and everything else. 1:31:50.240 --> 1:31:52.120 Man, how are you? I'm great, Sterling? 1:31:52.160 --> 1:31:52.559 How are you? 1:31:52.960 --> 1:31:54.759 In a while since we've talked on the air. 1:31:54.760 --> 1:31:56.640 It has been I see you all the time, it 1:31:56.640 --> 1:31:58.479 seems like, but don't get a chance to do this 1:31:58.560 --> 1:32:00.160 with you. So I appreciate you coming in. I know 1:32:00.200 --> 1:32:03.240 you got other stuff going. I don't know that the 1:32:03.240 --> 1:32:06.559 earth has spun off its axis at this point, there 1:32:06.680 --> 1:32:12.360 is a scheduled appearance Duke Tobin. I realize publicly he 1:32:12.400 --> 1:32:16.240 doesn't necessarily say a lot to us regular people. How 1:32:16.280 --> 1:32:18.760 big of a deal is this? What does this really mean? 1:32:18.920 --> 1:32:21.160 Is there going to be a change in Bengals planning 1:32:21.439 --> 1:32:23.920 or is this what we're riding with until the end. 1:32:25.000 --> 1:32:27.800 I don't know that this is an earth shattering thing. 1:32:28.160 --> 1:32:32.400 I think it's being a little bit overhyped. Some have 1:32:32.600 --> 1:32:34.960 described this to me privately as like, this is the 1:32:34.960 --> 1:32:37.400 equivalent of a playoff game for Bengals fans. They didn't 1:32:37.439 --> 1:32:39.880 make the playoffs this year, so at least we get 1:32:39.920 --> 1:32:41.400 to finally hear from Duke Tobin. 1:32:42.120 --> 1:32:44.240 Wowkay, Duke rarely speaks. 1:32:44.479 --> 1:32:47.639 He speaks at the combine, he speaks before the season, 1:32:48.200 --> 1:32:51.439 and that's pretty much it. And there is just a 1:32:51.520 --> 1:32:54.880 lack of transparency around him and his position, and it's 1:32:54.920 --> 1:32:57.120 been that way for the last twenty years, since he's 1:32:57.160 --> 1:33:00.680 been in this role more than twenty year, And so 1:33:01.560 --> 1:33:05.280 I think it is a good deviation from the established 1:33:05.439 --> 1:33:09.479 norm to have the general manager de facto general manager 1:33:09.800 --> 1:33:14.080 talk after the season in which you failed again and 1:33:14.400 --> 1:33:17.520 a season in which he was mentioned in the postseason 1:33:17.560 --> 1:33:20.559 statement by Mike Brown, and a season in which he 1:33:20.760 --> 1:33:23.360 was under more criticism than he's ever been at any 1:33:23.360 --> 1:33:24.160 point in his career. 1:33:24.320 --> 1:33:27.000 Yeah, I think that makes sense now. A lot of 1:33:27.040 --> 1:33:31.120 people that I've talked to, even though Joe's toe is heeled, 1:33:31.280 --> 1:33:34.639 Joe came back, he seemed healthy, got it together, they 1:33:34.680 --> 1:33:37.240 got strung together some wins. We saw a little bit 1:33:37.240 --> 1:33:39.400 more of what we expected this Bengals team to be. 1:33:39.840 --> 1:33:42.360 We know the depth of the arsenal and weaponry on 1:33:42.400 --> 1:33:46.040 the offense. The defense seemed to grow a little bit. However, 1:33:46.960 --> 1:33:51.240 expectations and the idea well another season without a post 1:33:51.320 --> 1:33:55.800 the playoff of appearance, there were extenuating circumstances. People go, 1:33:56.040 --> 1:33:58.400 what about Zach Taylor? Why is he still here? Burrows 1:33:58.439 --> 1:34:00.840 a fan? Is that the only reason he's here? I 1:34:00.880 --> 1:34:03.080 think I don't know if it's the only reason. I 1:34:03.120 --> 1:34:06.200 think it's a big reason. I think that means a lot. 1:34:06.280 --> 1:34:09.040 And Joe, in his opinion, carries weight to the Bengals, 1:34:09.080 --> 1:34:10.920 and I think it should absolutely. I don't know that 1:34:10.960 --> 1:34:14.559 they should do everything that he says that I think 1:34:14.720 --> 1:34:17.559 is a slippery slope. And Burrow has acknowledged that he's like, 1:34:17.560 --> 1:34:19.960 I don't want to be the GM. I don't want 1:34:19.960 --> 1:34:23.160 to be the guy scouting like. I'll share my opinion, 1:34:23.160 --> 1:34:25.080 I'll tell you what I think, but I don't know 1:34:25.120 --> 1:34:26.800 that I should be the chief decision maker. 1:34:26.840 --> 1:34:27.719 And I think that's fair. 1:34:28.439 --> 1:34:31.800 But I think it's It means a lot to the 1:34:31.920 --> 1:34:36.640 organization to have a coach who is liked and respected 1:34:36.680 --> 1:34:40.240 by his quarterback, and offensively, when you look at the 1:34:40.280 --> 1:34:42.760 foundation that they have, which is they're going to have 1:34:42.880 --> 1:34:46.400 ten of their starters coming back on offense already, guys 1:34:46.400 --> 1:34:49.680 that are already under contract, and you would expect them 1:34:49.720 --> 1:34:51.640 to be able to get that other position, a right 1:34:51.680 --> 1:34:55.120 guard position, done relatively quickly and build some of the depth. 1:34:55.120 --> 1:34:57.559 And Zach is an offensive minded coach, and the offense 1:34:57.920 --> 1:34:59.880 really hasn't been the problem for the better part of 1:34:59.880 --> 1:35:02.639 the the last three or four years. It's been injuries 1:35:02.640 --> 1:35:05.759 and defense, and I think it's fair not to blame 1:35:05.960 --> 1:35:08.080 Zach for all the issues. Now, z that can be better. 1:35:08.160 --> 1:35:11.040 I think procedurally he can be a lot better. I 1:35:11.040 --> 1:35:13.759 think he should consider giving up the play calling and 1:35:13.840 --> 1:35:17.320 being more of a CEO style head coach on game days. 1:35:17.439 --> 1:35:21.080 But he still has two years left on his contract, 1:35:21.400 --> 1:35:24.360 and whether you like it or not, the Bengals typically 1:35:24.439 --> 1:35:27.200 don't pay coaches not to coach for them, and so 1:35:27.280 --> 1:35:29.679 I think with Zach having two years left on his deal, 1:35:29.960 --> 1:35:32.639 most of his assistants having one year left on a deal. 1:35:33.400 --> 1:35:35.960 With the inclusion of Duke and Zach in the statement 1:35:36.000 --> 1:35:38.360 by Mike Brown, I think it kind of says this 1:35:38.520 --> 1:35:40.400 upcoming season is make it or break it. 1:35:41.040 --> 1:35:45.320 Speaking of others on staff still with contractual obligations and 1:35:45.400 --> 1:35:48.240 expected to stay where it is. Of course, Dan Pitcher 1:35:48.400 --> 1:35:51.760 and is interviewing elsewhere for a head coaching job. What 1:35:51.880 --> 1:35:55.000 does that say about where the Bengals stand and who's 1:35:55.000 --> 1:35:57.160 next up if he in fact bounces elsewhere. 1:35:57.240 --> 1:36:01.000 Yeah, I think it is confirmation of the idea that 1:36:01.439 --> 1:36:03.800 Zach Taylor and his offense and the way that they 1:36:03.920 --> 1:36:08.360 developed players on offense specifically works and is respected by 1:36:08.400 --> 1:36:11.759 other teams across the league. Now Dan Pitcher is interviewing 1:36:11.760 --> 1:36:14.280 with the Cleveland Browns, there's a connection there. Dan came 1:36:14.360 --> 1:36:16.800 up with the Indianapolis Colts, Andrew Berry was with the 1:36:16.800 --> 1:36:19.400 Indianapolis Colts. He's now the GM of the Browns. That's 1:36:19.400 --> 1:36:22.160 a very strong candidate. I would not like it if 1:36:22.240 --> 1:36:25.160 Dan Pitcher goes to the Cleveland Browns, just because I 1:36:25.200 --> 1:36:27.840 think he's a really good football coach. I think he 1:36:27.920 --> 1:36:31.200 has a very clear intimate understanding of the AFC North 1:36:31.240 --> 1:36:33.439 and would clearly understand the Bengals. I don't think that 1:36:33.439 --> 1:36:35.040 would be a good thing for them. I want Dan 1:36:35.080 --> 1:36:37.040 to succeed. I would like it to be anywhere but 1:36:37.200 --> 1:36:40.559 the Cleveland Browns, to be completely honest. But if he 1:36:40.680 --> 1:36:43.960 were to go, there are a couple of guys, Number one, 1:36:44.880 --> 1:36:49.520 Brad Cragthorpe and Justin Roscotti. Those are past game coordinator 1:36:49.560 --> 1:36:54.080 and quarterbacks coach or vice versa. Those two are our 1:36:54.200 --> 1:36:57.679 up and coming stars in the coaching realm. They've been here. 1:36:57.840 --> 1:37:00.320 Brad Cragthorpe's been here for a long time. Was actually 1:37:00.400 --> 1:37:02.800 with Joe Burrow for a year at LSU, and so 1:37:02.880 --> 1:37:05.759 there's a lot of connection there. And then Justin Roscotti 1:37:05.880 --> 1:37:08.280 came over last year from Minnesota. He's got some experience 1:37:08.320 --> 1:37:11.200 in Kevin O'Connell's offense and helped kind of unlock that 1:37:11.280 --> 1:37:14.800 next level of Jamar Chase. I think those two would 1:37:14.840 --> 1:37:17.639 be the possible connection of offensive coordinator, and the other 1:37:17.680 --> 1:37:20.879 one would be Brian Callahan, who was the offensive coordinator 1:37:20.920 --> 1:37:22.559 here of course when they went to the Super Bowl 1:37:22.560 --> 1:37:24.840 and was just fired as the Tennessee Titans head coach. 1:37:25.280 --> 1:37:27.920 Talking to Austin Elmore if you didn't already know ESPN 1:37:28.600 --> 1:37:31.200 or since the three sixty he's got with Tony pikel 1:37:31.360 --> 1:37:32.240 later on, that's what he does. 1:37:32.280 --> 1:37:32.479 It mean. 1:37:32.479 --> 1:37:34.480 It's great to hear any talking to you. This is just fantastic. 1:37:34.880 --> 1:37:39.439 I'm enjoying it. There's a couple things here. Firstly, it 1:37:39.560 --> 1:37:45.400 is a complication of success and surrounding yourself with good talent. 1:37:45.520 --> 1:37:48.479 When you see that talent bubbling up and being looked 1:37:48.479 --> 1:37:51.960 at with opportunities outside, you kind of want that, but 1:37:52.080 --> 1:37:53.960 you would like to be able to think that you 1:37:54.000 --> 1:37:57.200 can keep it together here with a window. And people 1:37:57.240 --> 1:38:00.360 have used the term open window for so long too much, 1:38:00.640 --> 1:38:03.960 but that window is shrinking for this Trangles team and 1:38:04.040 --> 1:38:06.559 trying to get to the playoffs and hopefully making runs 1:38:06.800 --> 1:38:10.160 regular runs there with you know, Joe Burrow in the 1:38:10.240 --> 1:38:13.720 age he's currently in Austin. What I'm wondering is this, 1:38:14.640 --> 1:38:18.280 if they lose someone of that caliber and that level, 1:38:18.520 --> 1:38:20.360 are they able to come in here and keep this 1:38:20.400 --> 1:38:23.160 thing going. Is he a marginal enough player down the 1:38:23.200 --> 1:38:25.839 food chain, if you will, as a coordinator of offense 1:38:26.240 --> 1:38:28.599 to where that hit can be taken and they don't 1:38:28.640 --> 1:38:29.559 stumble too much. 1:38:29.880 --> 1:38:30.200 Yes. 1:38:30.479 --> 1:38:32.800 And to be clear, my concern is not with what 1:38:32.920 --> 1:38:35.519 happens to the Bengals, it's what with the Browns. Could 1:38:35.640 --> 1:38:37.000 happen to the Browns getting better? 1:38:37.120 --> 1:38:37.680 Yeah? 1:38:37.800 --> 1:38:39.840 And I think because of the culture, because of the 1:38:39.840 --> 1:38:42.320 fact that all those players are coming back, because it's 1:38:42.360 --> 1:38:44.720 still Zach Taylor, who is the headman in charge of 1:38:44.720 --> 1:38:47.479 the offense, and you've got all that familiarity and all 1:38:47.479 --> 1:38:53.160 that continuity offensively specific, I don't think it would be 1:38:53.200 --> 1:38:55.760 a significant change. I don't know that they'd be better 1:38:55.840 --> 1:38:58.639 right away. There would be some learning of new styles 1:38:58.640 --> 1:39:01.639 and new communication and all different stuff, but I don't 1:39:01.680 --> 1:39:05.679 think the drop off would be ridiculous for the Bengals offense. 1:39:06.400 --> 1:39:09.160 You know what's interesting to me and I've talked to 1:39:09.200 --> 1:39:12.120 I mean, have some former players, you know, other people 1:39:12.200 --> 1:39:14.920 like you who live and breathe this talking Bengals and 1:39:14.960 --> 1:39:16.880 sports on a daily basis where I live it and 1:39:16.920 --> 1:39:21.760 it's my escape as a fan, not my lifestyle livelihood. 1:39:22.479 --> 1:39:24.439 In this situation, when you look at what they've done 1:39:24.479 --> 1:39:27.280 on the defense and that we did see them get 1:39:27.320 --> 1:39:30.719 better and there were injuries that they had to navigate, 1:39:30.960 --> 1:39:34.400 what's interesting in somewhat bewildering and troubling and probably for 1:39:34.479 --> 1:39:36.880 anyone doing the business that they do, whether it's the 1:39:36.880 --> 1:39:40.200 Bengals or pick an organization. You have draft pick after 1:39:40.280 --> 1:39:43.679 draft pick after draft pick, high end draft picks well 1:39:43.760 --> 1:39:46.599 thought of that either have not developed fast as one 1:39:46.600 --> 1:39:49.280 would have thought, or were not the talents that they 1:39:49.320 --> 1:39:51.720 had thought is it's played out. How much of it 1:39:51.800 --> 1:39:54.719 is bad choices, how much of his failure to develop 1:39:55.000 --> 1:39:56.920 to get where they are with the team that they 1:39:57.200 --> 1:39:57.759 put together. 1:39:57.960 --> 1:39:59.760 That's a great question, and I think it's part of 1:39:59.760 --> 1:40:02.320 the re why Duke Tobin is talking today is because 1:40:02.360 --> 1:40:05.439 he's the guy who's making those selections and it just 1:40:05.520 --> 1:40:09.200 has taken too long for those guys to pan out. 1:40:09.240 --> 1:40:11.599 And you know, last year they kind of used bad 1:40:11.720 --> 1:40:14.360 luck and bad coaching as an excuse, so they got 1:40:14.400 --> 1:40:17.720 rid of lou An Arumo, and you know, in a 1:40:17.760 --> 1:40:20.040 way they were proven right with the way that they 1:40:20.040 --> 1:40:22.960 also fired their defensive line coach and their linebacker coach, 1:40:23.120 --> 1:40:25.240 And in a way they were proven right because all 1:40:25.280 --> 1:40:28.080 of a sudden, the light bulb comes on for Miles Murphy, 1:40:28.360 --> 1:40:31.320 the light bulb comes on for DJ Turner, like there 1:40:31.400 --> 1:40:34.479 actually started to be some development for the young players 1:40:34.520 --> 1:40:37.040 and the defense. The issue is, and going back to 1:40:37.040 --> 1:40:39.679 the window that you mentioned, is you don't have time 1:40:39.720 --> 1:40:41.880 to wait for guys three years into the NFL to 1:40:41.920 --> 1:40:44.760 start having the light bulb come on. You need them 1:40:44.800 --> 1:40:48.120 to come in and contribute right away. And on top 1:40:48.200 --> 1:40:52.200 of that, when you haven't supplemented your roster adequately enough 1:40:52.240 --> 1:40:54.960 with veteran free agents to help the development of those 1:40:55.000 --> 1:40:59.639 young players. It does fall on coaching and the people 1:40:59.640 --> 1:41:02.519 in charge of the personnel, and that would be Duke Tobin. 1:41:02.640 --> 1:41:06.280 So it's not a sexy answer. I'm sitting on the 1:41:06.280 --> 1:41:08.000 fence here, but I do feel like it's a fifty 1:41:08.000 --> 1:41:11.559 to fifty split. You know, the coaches in the front office, 1:41:11.640 --> 1:41:14.160 it doesn't feel like there has been alignment. And I 1:41:14.200 --> 1:41:16.320 think that's part of the reason why Luanna Rumo was fired, 1:41:16.360 --> 1:41:18.880 an alignment between him and the way he wants to 1:41:18.920 --> 1:41:21.080 do things and the way the front office wants to 1:41:21.120 --> 1:41:25.120 do things. Now, defensively, they were still really bad, but 1:41:25.240 --> 1:41:27.439 they changed. They got rid of Mike Hilton, they got 1:41:27.479 --> 1:41:29.759 rid of Von Bell, they got rid of Sam Hubbard. 1:41:29.760 --> 1:41:32.000 They moved on from a bunch of veterans that hogged 1:41:32.080 --> 1:41:34.080 up a bunch of snaps, and they just threw the 1:41:34.120 --> 1:41:37.920 young guys out there and they stunk, and so it backfired. 1:41:38.040 --> 1:41:40.880 And so now, and you mentioned it after the bye week, 1:41:41.439 --> 1:41:44.080 they didn't play the best competition, but they did show 1:41:44.520 --> 1:41:49.439 marginal signs of improvement. Can that be a continuous thing 1:41:49.560 --> 1:41:52.720 into this offseason and can Duke Tobin do the right 1:41:52.760 --> 1:41:55.960 things to surround those young players with the right veteran 1:41:56.040 --> 1:42:00.720 talent so that you can expedite that process a lot quicker. 1:42:00.560 --> 1:42:02.840 Talking to Austin Elmore, he and Tony Pike. Of course, 1:42:02.840 --> 1:42:05.400 Sincy three to sixty sterling in for Scott Sloan's seven 1:42:05.479 --> 1:42:09.720 hundred WLW. So I guess the question is this, we 1:42:09.760 --> 1:42:14.000 have seen the Bengals make splashes on occasion, going out 1:42:14.040 --> 1:42:17.080 and getting a talent that's not too far over the hill, 1:42:17.280 --> 1:42:20.000 or coming in where somebody else couldn't afford him anymore, 1:42:20.080 --> 1:42:23.680 their plans changed or whatever. How many pieces do the 1:42:23.680 --> 1:42:27.720 Bengals need do you think on defense to supplement what 1:42:27.800 --> 1:42:30.800 they've already shown with development to get where they need 1:42:30.800 --> 1:42:33.920 to be to where we're not talking a year from now, 1:42:34.160 --> 1:42:37.840 a better about another team that, if everyone stays healthy, 1:42:37.920 --> 1:42:40.439 maybe still ends up on the outside looking in of 1:42:40.479 --> 1:42:43.360 what looks to be an incredible weekend to playoff football 1:42:43.600 --> 1:42:49.800 Bears and Packers, Panthers, Rams, Jags, Bills, Eagles, forty nine Ers, Patriots, Chargers, Steelers, 1:42:49.800 --> 1:42:54.000 who the Steelers always seem to find a way even 1:42:54.040 --> 1:42:56.280 with the two hundred and fifty year old quarterback. 1:42:56.479 --> 1:42:56.799 Yeah. 1:42:56.960 --> 1:42:58.680 I mean, they haven't won a playoff game in like 1:42:58.720 --> 1:43:01.400 ten years. Though there is some solace. I take some 1:43:01.520 --> 1:43:04.200 solace in that they get there. Mike Tomlin has turned 1:43:04.200 --> 1:43:10.880 into Marvin Lewis, But yeah, it did, it did? I 1:43:10.920 --> 1:43:16.360 think I think they need probably four maybe five guys totally, 1:43:16.479 --> 1:43:18.760 and that can be rookies that you get in the draft, 1:43:19.560 --> 1:43:22.120 and it can be veterans. I think they need probably 1:43:22.160 --> 1:43:25.120 at least two defensive linemen, one on the interior, one 1:43:25.160 --> 1:43:28.080 on the edge. I think they need another linebacker because 1:43:28.120 --> 1:43:31.800 I can't stomach watching those linebackers play again. I think 1:43:31.800 --> 1:43:33.960 you're gonna need a safety. I think you're gonna need 1:43:34.080 --> 1:43:37.519 a replacement corner for Cam Taylor Britt. So you're at 1:43:37.560 --> 1:43:40.360 at least four, maybe five. You could get up to six. 1:43:40.920 --> 1:43:43.720 And they have seventy million dollars to spend. And so 1:43:44.160 --> 1:43:45.960 a lot of people like to dump on the Bengals 1:43:46.000 --> 1:43:47.800 for the way they do contracts and they call them 1:43:47.880 --> 1:43:51.439 cheap and blah blah blah blah blah. Well, one of 1:43:51.439 --> 1:43:54.680 the biggest misnomers out there about the Bengals is that 1:43:54.720 --> 1:43:57.160 they can no longer afford players because they paid Burrow 1:43:57.240 --> 1:44:00.439 Chase and Higgins. That's not true. They have plenty of 1:44:00.479 --> 1:44:02.479 cap space this year. They have plenty of cap space 1:44:02.520 --> 1:44:05.240 next year and the year after that. Number one, because 1:44:05.240 --> 1:44:07.280 they haven't extended some of those young guys because of 1:44:07.280 --> 1:44:09.680 the questions we've talked about. For sure, the cap will 1:44:09.720 --> 1:44:12.240 continue to go up unless there's another global pandemic, and 1:44:12.240 --> 1:44:14.519 who the hell knows it might, but the cap will 1:44:14.520 --> 1:44:17.479 continue to go up. The Bengals do have the ability 1:44:17.479 --> 1:44:20.840 to restructure those contracts to free that up. Like they've 1:44:20.880 --> 1:44:23.840 set themselves up really nicely to keep the window open, 1:44:24.280 --> 1:44:27.600 which means there are no excuses for the offseason. Like 1:44:27.680 --> 1:44:29.960 last year they used bad luck and bad coaching and 1:44:29.960 --> 1:44:31.960 they got one or two veteran guys t J. 1:44:32.080 --> 1:44:33.639 Slaton, Orn Burke's didn't work. 1:44:33.880 --> 1:44:37.040 Can't do that again this year because you need guys 1:44:37.080 --> 1:44:39.040 on that defense, and you have the money to be 1:44:39.040 --> 1:44:40.880 able to spend, and you have a top ten pick 1:44:40.880 --> 1:44:41.840 in every single round. 1:44:42.040 --> 1:44:44.920 That's pretty good, right, Yeah, I mean it's not a 1:44:44.920 --> 1:44:47.639 bad situation. What do you think they'll do? 1:44:47.640 --> 1:44:47.880 Do you? 1:44:48.320 --> 1:44:50.720 I mean, do you personally? Because I know how you are. 1:44:51.320 --> 1:44:52.920 You and Tony are sitting there looking, well, if we 1:44:52.920 --> 1:44:54.559 could get that guy we can pull that guy from 1:44:54.560 --> 1:44:56.519 over there and this guy, So like, who do you 1:44:56.640 --> 1:44:59.240 see who's available? We're a move or you know, it 1:44:59.280 --> 1:45:01.479 wouldn't be too surprising where you could say, okay with 1:45:01.560 --> 1:45:02.719 this makes sense for the Bengal. 1:45:03.000 --> 1:45:04.400 Yeah, that's that's a good question. 1:45:04.479 --> 1:45:06.360 I don't know if I've allowed myself to get there 1:45:06.520 --> 1:45:10.320 entirely yet, but there are, you know, pass rushers out 1:45:10.360 --> 1:45:14.160 there that I feel like they might have to maybe 1:45:14.160 --> 1:45:16.400 get a little creative. If you think back to the 1:45:16.400 --> 1:45:19.439 twenty one offseason, they signed Trey Hendrickson to a four year, 1:45:19.479 --> 1:45:20.679 sixty million dollar deal. 1:45:21.000 --> 1:45:21.760 He was kind of an. 1:45:21.720 --> 1:45:24.960 Unproven player, but a guy who had been kind of productive. 1:45:25.240 --> 1:45:27.439 Can you find a low level guy like that that 1:45:27.520 --> 1:45:30.200 you are still molding into being a really good pass 1:45:30.240 --> 1:45:33.200 rusher that's going to be opposite of Miles Murphy? Can 1:45:33.240 --> 1:45:35.400 you find one of those guys in the draft as well? 1:45:35.880 --> 1:45:39.160 And I think the interior of their defensive line and 1:45:39.200 --> 1:45:41.800 getting pass rush out of that position, I think we'll 1:45:41.800 --> 1:45:44.519 see Schamar Stewart in there a little bit more. That's 1:45:44.520 --> 1:45:46.400 gonna be one of the outside the box things that 1:45:46.479 --> 1:45:48.679 they do. I think they could draft one right away 1:45:48.800 --> 1:45:52.400 because there's not a deep class of those interior pass rushers. 1:45:52.680 --> 1:45:55.200 Peter Woods is a guy from Clemson who's there that 1:45:55.240 --> 1:45:57.320 you feel I could come in right away and provide 1:45:57.320 --> 1:45:59.800 that type of impact and also help b J. Hill 1:46:00.240 --> 1:46:02.080 to be a more impactful player. The name a lot 1:46:02.120 --> 1:46:03.880 of people want to talk about is Caleb Downs, the 1:46:03.880 --> 1:46:05.960 safety out of Ohio State. And I don't blame you, 1:46:06.000 --> 1:46:08.760 because if you've watched Gino Stone play over the last 1:46:08.800 --> 1:46:11.519 few years, he is legitimately one of the worst players 1:46:11.520 --> 1:46:15.040 who's ever played for the Cincinnati Bengals. That position has 1:46:15.120 --> 1:46:17.559 to get better, and that says a lot. They've been 1:46:17.600 --> 1:46:20.599 around for sixty years and they've had some bad dudes. 1:46:21.200 --> 1:46:24.400 Geno Stone is among the worst who's ever played for 1:46:24.439 --> 1:46:25.240 this organization. 1:46:25.880 --> 1:46:26.960 That has to get fixed. 1:46:27.200 --> 1:46:28.920 You know what's funny to me after all these years, 1:46:28.920 --> 1:46:31.000 and I remember even doing it as a kid, and 1:46:31.040 --> 1:46:33.479 it was not as involved as it is now. Right, 1:46:33.960 --> 1:46:36.720 It is a strange thing for me, and maybe it's 1:46:36.800 --> 1:46:39.760 just the way I was brought up to still regularly 1:46:39.840 --> 1:46:43.280 talk about guys. That guy should be fired and he's 1:46:43.360 --> 1:46:45.960 making too much, and that guy's not making it or 1:46:45.960 --> 1:46:47.680 not they need to call up some cash for him. 1:46:47.760 --> 1:46:50.439 There is no other business hardly at all where we 1:46:50.840 --> 1:46:53.919 talk about people's livelihoods and their families being uprooted. 1:46:54.200 --> 1:46:57.479 He's no good. He's a bumb and you're like, he 1:46:57.600 --> 1:46:58.599 was great a year ago. 1:46:58.880 --> 1:47:02.680 Yeah, And there's always there's always circumstances like behind the 1:47:02.800 --> 1:47:05.360 you know, the curtain that that affect all that. Like 1:47:05.439 --> 1:47:08.360 Nick Scott's a perfect example. He's a part of the 1:47:08.439 --> 1:47:11.040 playoff team in Carolina. Yeah, he was a safety here 1:47:11.080 --> 1:47:13.519 that didn't work out. Come to find out. They asked 1:47:13.560 --> 1:47:15.559 him to switch positions, they asked him to do stuff 1:47:15.560 --> 1:47:19.000 he'd never done before. It just didn't make sense, like, 1:47:19.600 --> 1:47:22.400 and it didn't work for him when they brought him in, 1:47:22.560 --> 1:47:24.599 and so now they're trying to replace him and they 1:47:24.600 --> 1:47:26.759 get a guy like Jordan Battle and blah blah blah blah. 1:47:26.800 --> 1:47:29.439 Just it's a never ending cycle of that. And that's 1:47:29.439 --> 1:47:32.200 the nature of life though too. Yeah, that's the beauty 1:47:32.200 --> 1:47:32.599 of the sport. 1:47:32.800 --> 1:47:33.200 I'm sorry. 1:47:33.320 --> 1:47:35.360 No, it's life in general, and life in the National 1:47:35.400 --> 1:47:36.439 Football League especially. 1:47:36.720 --> 1:47:39.360 It's just an odd thing because all of us do 1:47:39.439 --> 1:47:41.200 this and it's been that way for a long time. 1:47:41.200 --> 1:47:43.559 Even my neighbors kids come over and they're telling me 1:47:43.640 --> 1:47:45.080 about budgets, and I'm. 1:47:44.880 --> 1:47:47.439 Like, you're twelve. What are you doing? 1:47:48.080 --> 1:47:50.920 It's just a I do too, I really do. But 1:47:51.160 --> 1:47:54.639 fantasy football and Madden and all these things. Yes, there's 1:47:54.680 --> 1:47:56.840 so much information out it really is. 1:47:57.040 --> 1:47:59.400 What have I not asked that's in your head right 1:47:59.439 --> 1:48:01.840 now that you and Tony and everybody else have been 1:48:01.880 --> 1:48:04.120 thinking about? You know, as Duke Tobin gets ready to 1:48:04.400 --> 1:48:06.400 step up and talk to the public here, I think 1:48:06.400 --> 1:48:09.920 it's one o'clock this afternoon. Anything else bouncing around? What 1:48:09.960 --> 1:48:12.439 did I not ask? What else is relevant? Are you 1:48:12.560 --> 1:48:16.200 already thinking about the Reds? No, I'm trying not to 1:48:16.240 --> 1:48:20.120 think about the Reds. Really, yeah, I'm this is this 1:48:20.280 --> 1:48:22.639 is not a good thing to admit, but I am 1:48:22.720 --> 1:48:24.679 absolutely dreading this Red season. 1:48:25.200 --> 1:48:26.120 What is wrong with you? 1:48:28.200 --> 1:48:28.400 Now? 1:48:28.640 --> 1:48:30.519 You watched most of those games. You did a lot 1:48:30.560 --> 1:48:32.960 of the pregame shows, that's true. I did a lot 1:48:32.960 --> 1:48:36.519 of the postgame shows. That's true too. That was a 1:48:36.680 --> 1:48:40.759 miserable team to watch. They couldn't score, they didn't steal bases, 1:48:40.880 --> 1:48:44.479 they can't hit. Yeah, how did they not manufacture runs? 1:48:44.600 --> 1:48:46.960 They're in that situation and what have they done? They're 1:48:47.000 --> 1:48:49.320 going to bring back the exact same team so we 1:48:49.360 --> 1:48:51.320 got one hundred and sixty two games and not being 1:48:51.320 --> 1:48:53.960 able to score all over again. And I'm just I'm 1:48:54.000 --> 1:48:56.479 not I'm not there yet. I will be come Opening Day. 1:48:56.520 --> 1:48:57.280 I'll be fired up. 1:48:57.360 --> 1:48:59.360 Reds Fest is like a week away, two weeks away. 1:48:59.360 --> 1:49:02.360 Whatever it is, struggling, I'm struggling. I gotta find it. 1:49:02.840 --> 1:49:04.280 I can feel it, like right now. I know the 1:49:04.280 --> 1:49:06.240 temperatures are dropping through the day, but it kind of 1:49:06.240 --> 1:49:08.799 feels like baseball the weather. I kind of I'm already 1:49:08.840 --> 1:49:09.519 thinking about it. 1:49:09.600 --> 1:49:12.000 Duke Tobin could answer the question of why the Reds 1:49:12.000 --> 1:49:13.880 didn't go get a big off season bat. 1:49:13.960 --> 1:49:14.840 That would be a good question. 1:49:14.880 --> 1:49:17.360 Wouldn't that be great if you would just fire back 1:49:17.439 --> 1:49:18.840 with that and just completely. 1:49:21.040 --> 1:49:25.680 That'd be tremendous. Man. I just you know what is frustrating. 1:49:26.160 --> 1:49:28.599 And I tell people this is Bengals fans, And there 1:49:28.600 --> 1:49:30.559 were a lot of people who's they they got good 1:49:30.560 --> 1:49:33.559 when Burrow came and were there and got close and 1:49:33.560 --> 1:49:35.759 got to the Super Bowl and didn't quite get it done. 1:49:36.160 --> 1:49:39.080 And I mentioned the better living through lowered expectations. My 1:49:39.200 --> 1:49:42.599 whole career as a human has been living and dying 1:49:42.640 --> 1:49:45.240 with this Bengals football team and coming down with my 1:49:45.320 --> 1:49:48.120 uncle Manny to Old river Front and seeing and then 1:49:48.320 --> 1:49:51.240 you know what was PBS. Uh, you know, and then 1:49:51.280 --> 1:49:53.679 now pay corps and you kind of got there. 1:49:53.680 --> 1:49:54.400 You gotta be better. 1:49:54.400 --> 1:49:57.240 There's got to be more consistent and uh, just as 1:49:57.280 --> 1:49:59.880 they start to get close, I just want to be 1:50:00.120 --> 1:50:01.920 leave that it will be a stretch where they are 1:50:01.960 --> 1:50:06.920 consistently good and it is not just an excuse ridden 1:50:07.000 --> 1:50:08.000 time after. 1:50:08.160 --> 1:50:10.720 I keep telling myself that one of these days it 1:50:10.760 --> 1:50:13.760 will all be worth it. The Bengals winning the Super 1:50:13.800 --> 1:50:16.160 Bowl are one of the great sports stories yet to 1:50:16.160 --> 1:50:19.439 be told. I remind myself of the Chicago Cubs they 1:50:19.439 --> 1:50:22.000 won it in twenty sixteen. Yeah, if the Cubs can 1:50:22.040 --> 1:50:25.200 win the World Series, the Bengals can win the Super Bowl. 1:50:25.280 --> 1:50:28.000 I like the way you think that's well, you just 1:50:28.040 --> 1:50:31.360 do it, like before my dad dies. That's how That's 1:50:31.400 --> 1:50:33.160 how I think about it now. It's like, if my 1:50:33.240 --> 1:50:35.840 dad's like sixty, can we just get this done before 1:50:35.880 --> 1:50:36.320 he goes? 1:50:36.760 --> 1:50:39.479 For all these Dad, that's tremendous. Why not for no 1:50:39.520 --> 1:50:40.040 other reason? 1:50:40.080 --> 1:50:43.599 If not that Austin Elmore with Tony Pike Sincy three sixty, 1:50:43.800 --> 1:50:46.439 ESPN three sixty or fifteen thirty. That's where you are, 1:50:46.520 --> 1:50:48.960 and Sloaney's back Monday. I'm not on to I don't 1:50:48.960 --> 1:50:50.720 know who's doing me and will see how it goes. 1:50:50.760 --> 1:50:52.280 It's all top I don't know me, I don't know 1:50:52.320 --> 1:50:54.800 who's doing me. That's the way that goes. We'll find 1:50:54.800 --> 1:50:57.519 out later on. Dan Carroll's next and I'll be back 1:50:57.600 --> 1:50:59.760 a Sunday with Donna d right here in the home 1:50:59.800 --> 1:51:02.439 of the best Bengals coverage and the Red seven hundred 1:51:02.520 --> 1:51:03.840 WLW Cincinnati