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Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American idiot?

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Speaker 2: Well, well, well here we are.

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Speaker 3: It's sterling and Donna Deve for Scott Sloan on a wet,

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Speaker 3: windy Friday, unusually weather whip lash kind of weekend. Almost

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Speaker 3: you can almost see and feel the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Donna, Well, it's warm.

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Speaker 4: That's really all I care about at this point. It's

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Speaker 3: Holy small, it's bewildering. Up is down, Down is up?

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Speaker 3: A light as dark and dark as well light. There's

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Speaker 3: the good stuff, the fun into the weekend. Kevin Carr,

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Speaker 3: fat guys at the movies, sober, get go and substack

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Speaker 3: should have a doctor hopefully depending on availability. Talking about

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Speaker 3: issues with the new dietary guidelines and some other stuff

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Speaker 3: going on too. But the elephant in the room which

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Speaker 3: the woman who was in the suv. In the engagement

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Speaker 3: with ICE and other federal authorities as they were working

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Speaker 3: to handle immigration stuff. There and protests continuing. It's an

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Speaker 3: ugly circumstance. I guess the question is because I think

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Speaker 3: most everyone, even if you've been trying to avoid the

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Speaker 3: video or just the heaviness of the conversation and what's

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Speaker 2: Legitimately, maybe not so well.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean, as anything else in this country right now,

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Speaker 4: away from that's depending on I mean, there's been probably

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Speaker 4: twenty different angles. They've slowed it down, they've sped it up.

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Speaker 4: There's a ton of different angles for the video, and

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Speaker 4: everybody seems to have a different opinion on it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're seems.

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Speaker 4: Pro Ice pro Trump pro, then you're going to see

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Speaker 4: that this woman was trying to run down the agent.

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Speaker 4: If you're not, possibly you're looking at, uh, the woman

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Speaker 4: I mean, everybody has an angle and what they see

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Speaker 4: about it. It's tragic no matter what happened.

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Speaker 1: No matter what you view.

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Speaker 4: As this, it is an awful situation and I really

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a couple things. First, I'm surprised we haven't

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Speaker 3: in a way seen more of it. And you know

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Speaker 3: exact same angles. And as you mentioned, affiliation of party

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Speaker 3: or support for some authority is somehow how one assesses

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Speaker 2: Be possible for a whole lot of people.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, there's going to always be your perceptionist reality.

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Speaker 1: We say this all the time.

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Speaker 4: And if you think you know that that these ICE

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Speaker 4: them as protecting, uh, the citizens from illegal immigrants that

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Speaker 1: There has been talk.

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Speaker 4: About how the ICE agents there, They're training has been limited,

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Speaker 4: So you've got these ice agents that aren't as trained

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Speaker 4: this weaponry that you know, is anything that you've seen

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Speaker 3: What's interesting is that here in commentary, whether it's Fox

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Speaker 3: this I really wonder if someone rolls up in you

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Speaker 3: Why are they not working in tandem with local authorities also?

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Speaker 3: And in some cases they are, But it becomes a

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Speaker 3: And you know, and the whole other thing will get

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Speaker 3: let's take some calls, give you a chance. Hey, that's Friday,

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Speaker 3: seven eight hundred, the big one, Sterling and Donnade and

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Speaker 3: for Scott Sloan, let's get to uh Mark firt and

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Speaker 3: we've got Bob first, then Mark and room for you

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Speaker 3: on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, Bob? Hey, good morning?

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Speaker 6: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I think I'm all right? What's up?

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Speaker 7: This Minneapolis thing, you know, like you said, we all

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Speaker 7: got opinions. I just think a lot of you have

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Speaker 7: this woman and she was like many you know, she'd

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Speaker 7: been supposedly following the ice people around throughout the day

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Speaker 7: carassing them, which that's everybody's right, you know, but was

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Speaker 7: it justified.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's a fifty deal. I would I would

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Speaker 7: Trump supporter. He's trying to get these illegals out of

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Speaker 7: money and for whatever reason. Uh, there's many in this

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Speaker 7: country that want to support that type of activity, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, and we're the we're the ones.

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Speaker 7: That ultimately pay for It's the citizens of the United

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Speaker 7: Somalia's and uh years ago, I kind of I kind

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Speaker 7: they support them big time, and they they had more

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks Bob.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how anybody has more rights than anybody

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Speaker 4: But well, this all you thing in Minnesota is fraud.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's well, yeah, it's horrible, inexcusable. And what

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Speaker 4: Bob said too, I don't think anybody wants criminals rolling

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Speaker 1: Should she be taunting ice agents? Should know? Can there

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Speaker 1: be peaceful protests? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Should she have been shot in the head three times

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Speaker 3: and I'm going to defend myself. If I'm looking to

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Speaker 3: Greater's Black raspberry chip ice cream, I'm going to go.

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Speaker 2: I've never gone. What political leanings do to you?

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Speaker 3: I like somessert right now? But apparently that is the

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Speaker 3: Stirling and Donna Dee and for Scott Sloan, what about

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Speaker 3: this Minneapolis thing? We got to Fred and James and

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Speaker 8: Hey, yeah, thank you for taking my call. I agree

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Speaker 8: with Bob, I agree with all the things that you

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Speaker 8: have said, but I want to add two words to

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Speaker 8: this discussion. Ashley Babbitt. Ashley Babbitt was a peaceful protester

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Speaker 8: on January sixth, two thousand and twenty one, and she

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Speaker 8: was behind a door and she was shot through that door.

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Speaker 8: Here's an Army veteran who was shot through this door,

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Speaker 8: and the left because they didn't like that protest. Okay,

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Speaker 8: that and we're going to know the name of the

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Speaker 8: police officer who killed this lady. And Minnie, what was

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Speaker 2: I just remember they taught us all that stuff when

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Speaker 1: And the father.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is a clear case of something horribly

442
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 4: going wrong and then continuing down the road of horrible behavior.

443
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I get that there's gonna be pain. There's

444
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 4: gonna be pain if your child is is shot and kilt.

445
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 4: I mean that that's gonna be pain. But running down

446
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 4: the police officer that it just seems like this whole

447
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 4: circle of bad behavior that is just getting any nobody,

448
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 4: everybody nowhere. It's terrible, terrible, another terrible story. We're talking

449
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 4: about them this Friday mornings. Strelling's not our fault. It's

450
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 4: the news. Yes, I mean, and we'll have light fun

451
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 4: stuff too. But if I've won three seven, four, nine, seven,

452
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 4: eight hundred, the big when you can talk back the

453
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 4: iHeartRadio app. I'm just what I'm curious about is how

454
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Speaker 4: I just I can't believe it's even possible that that

455
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 4: How would that even get to the point where that, yeah,

456
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 4: maybe we settle I don't. I can't believe that that's

457
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 4: actually what was being discussed or is being discussed or

458
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 4: worked out in some fashion, because I don't see in

459
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 4: any way at all, whatsoever where anyone reasonably, irrationally can't

460
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 4: look at that and say it was a justified shooting,

461
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 4: horrible disastrous outcome for that young man in the family. Donna,

462
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Speaker 4: But no, how about you don't have a gun in

463
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Speaker 4: the car, and you don't steal a car, and you

464
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 4: don't you know, you put yourself in these really bad positions.

465
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Speaker 4: I think it was Bob earlier on the caller earlier

466
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 4: who said, you know, you you have to adhere to

467
00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 4: law and enforcement and authority, and if you're going to

468
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 4: act like that, there's going to be some repercussions no

469
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 4: matter what, whether you get caught later, you're in jail,

470
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 4: you do this, you do that?

471
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Speaker 1: I mean, would the what if.

472
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Speaker 4: He surrendered and went to jail for you know, firearm

473
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 4: and sealing the car would have been a lot better

474
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 4: than the situation that he got himself in pointing at

475
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Speaker 4: a police officer.

476
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, you've got a fleeing seemingly fellon

477
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Speaker 3: with the firearm going. It would have been moving through

478
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: a neighborhood in desperation. What are they going to do

479
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 3: with that weapon if it's not in that situation just

480
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 3: coming at law enforcement officer and in retribution or fear

481
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: whatever else it is not thinking how about don't boost

482
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Speaker 3: the car?

483
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

484
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Speaker 3: How about stop when they tell you? How about get

485
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Speaker 3: out with your hands out. You've probably seen enough videos

486
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 3: to know how to handle that. Stop situation and go

487
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 3: to court, live another day to deal with it. Don't

488
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 3: put somebody in fear of their lives if you're doing

489
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 3: some criminal stuff some bad things may in fact come

490
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 3: your way just by the you know, just by life happening.

491
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Speaker 1: You know.

492
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Speaker 4: You see these videos on like social media and I

493
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 4: hate it. I hate it, but you see these people

494
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 4: going into these stores and stealing a bunch of stuff,

495
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 4: and then people try to stop, don't touch me, don't

496
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 4: touch me, don't touch It's like what you can't This

497
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 4: isn't a free for all. You can't just do what

498
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Speaker 4: you want. We are a nation of laws. And if

499
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 4: you steal stuff, if you have weapons in your car,

500
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 4: if you there's going to be ramifications for that, and

501
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 4: you should expect that.

502
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Speaker 3: It seems about as basic as anything it really does.

503
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 3: Five point three seven eight hundred the big one. Stirling

504
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: Donnade making a lot of sense on a Friday for

505
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 3: Scott Sloan. We are, we are. It's hard sometimes, but

506
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 3: somebody's got to do it. To Mason, with Jim and

507
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: Gary and Chris and others in room for you. What's

508
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 3: going on?

509
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Speaker 2: Jim? How are you?

510
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 9: I'm good, sterling, how are you?

511
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Speaker 7: This is a great topic you brought up this morning.

512
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 2: Thank you man. What's on your mind?

513
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 11: Well, the city administration supposedly now is trying to attract

514
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 11: the officers to the Cincinnati Police Force, Yet they do

515
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 11: stupid stuff like this that tells anybody looking.

516
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: To do that.

517
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 11: Why would I come into the Cincinnati Police Force when

518
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 11: the administration doesn't support you or sends out the message

519
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 11: that the police did something wrong in this. They did

520
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 11: absolutely nothing wrong in this. It was justified shooting in that.

521
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 11: The only other thing I'd like to say is I

522
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 11: live in Mason now and I was thinking about buying

523
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 11: a condo, and I've totally ruled out the city of Cincinnati.

524
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 11: I don't go to the Esquire Theater anymore. A lot

525
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 11: of the places that I used to go to, I

526
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 11: don't go to anymore because I don't trust the city

527
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 11: as far as keeping me safe. I'm in my seventies

528
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 11: and I just don't trust the city administration. It is

529
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 11: unbelievable to me. You look back at the bridge fire,

530
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 11: nobody gets, nobody gets in trouble for that. You look

531
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 11: at the other faux pass by the administration, nobody gets

532
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 11: in trouble. There's no accountability. It's unbelievable. Pretty much what

533
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 11: I have to say.

534
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Speaker 3: Well, Jim, I appreciate the call, thank you, and I

535
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 3: hate the idea that you don't feel like getting out

536
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 3: and about in what isn't a world class city being Cincinnati.

537
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 3: But I know people have that feeling, and sometimes you

538
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: get a little bit older. There's a lot that goes

539
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: into that too.

540
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Speaker 1: I do.

541
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Speaker 4: I hate that as well, because I'm downtown a lot

542
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 4: and I always I don't not feel safe.

543
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a woman too, and.

544
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Speaker 4: So I feel pretty safe in downtown Cincinnati, and some

545
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 4: of these amazing restaurants and theaters and things like that

546
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 4: really spoiled we are.

547
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: We have a great city downtown.

548
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Speaker 4: I'm so sorry you feel that way, Jim, But this

549
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 4: is why this kind of stuff snowballs. You know, something

550
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 4: happens over here and Jim feels like he can't go

551
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 4: down and hang out in a great city that we have.

552
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: That's a bummer.

553
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 11: You know.

554
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Speaker 3: What I would like to hear is from the city

555
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 3: to actually come out and say that they were or

556
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: were not, and actually say it if they were working

557
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: on a settlement here or not. If the FOB came

558
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: out and that is factual information, it is bewildering, and

559
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: liked them to rationalize it, justify it to the public

560
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: rather than doing it quietly though most negotiations are private. Generally,

561
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: it just doesn't make sense on any reason at all

562
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: whatsoever for what is clearly a justified shooting, as horrific

563
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: as the outcome, is that law enforcement officer has to

564
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: live with taking a life of another, even though it

565
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: was in their own survival and defense of the community

566
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: as well, and a family lost the This kid who

567
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: was not doing what he should have been, should have

568
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: been doing just about anything else other than being in

569
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 3: a stolen car hanging out with other you know, kids,

570
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 3: young people doing some criminal stuff. Sometimes bad outcomes happen. Yeah,

571
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Speaker 3: it's just terrible. Five point three seven four nine, seven,

572
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: eight hundred, the big one. Let's see, let's get to Gary, then,

573
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: Zach and Chris in the room for you on a

574
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: Friday Scott Sloan Show with Stirling and Donnade.

575
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Speaker 12: What do you have, Gary, Well, I've been listening pretty

576
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 12: intently to all this for the last year, since ma

577
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 12: since this young man cast his own death. But then,

578
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 12: just like day before yesterday, that woman cast her own death.

579
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 12: Same thing with George Floyd. They all have something in common.

580
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 12: They broke the laws. And what we're not hearing and

581
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 12: the liberal media, the left and the right. They need

582
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 12: to be driving home and try to reverse the damage

583
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 12: and the fear that they've created in people, especially people

584
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 12: of color. Comply, comply, comply. They've created such a hatred

585
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 12: and a disrespect for law enforcement, no matter who it is,

586
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 12: if it's a Cincinnati police, Gayton police, Sidney, Ohio police

587
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 12: where I live or wherever, or ice. We are living

588
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 12: in terrible times. And it's the political media, liberal media

589
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 12: that have created this hostile environment toward police officers, and

590
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 12: people are going to continue to die if they do

591
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 12: not comply.

592
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Speaker 3: It's that simple, Gary, I appreciate the call that you know,

593
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: te tying in the George Floyd thing or otherwise. He

594
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: was complying and not a threat at that point, and

595
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: that officer was, you know, paying a price for obviously

596
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: doing what he did in the way that that played

597
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: out in some fashion. But yeah, I mean, if you're

598
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: in a situation you've been directed by police, it's real simple.

599
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: They have the authority, they have the firepower. I'd rather

600
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: live to fight in court if you disagree with what

601
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 3: has gone on with that process of one's arrest or detainment,

602
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: rather than ending up in a bag or otherwise there's

603
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 3: no need for that engagement unnecessarily. But I mean not

604
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: all of those cases you mentioned are apples to oranges

605
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: in that respectfully. I mean, it's just in my opinion,

606
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: it's not.

607
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: It's not.

608
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: Let's get to downtown, Bob and Zach and Chris. We

609
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: got a room for a few more before you're ten

610
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: o'clock report, and then we'll talk on healthy Can I just.

611
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 4: Say too, though, I do understand what Gary is talking

612
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 4: about and comply, and I do feel like a lot

613
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 4: of people, you know, feel justified in not complying. And

614
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 4: that's the worst thing you can do in a situation

615
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 4: when a police officer pulls you over, you answer questions

616
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 4: and you comply.

617
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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with him at all.

618
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: No, I mean, it's real simple. Everybody wants to go home.

619
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Speaker 3: Everybody's trying to do whatever they got to do.

620
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 4: Well, we have to have law and order in this country,

621
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Speaker 4: and you can't just ignore that.

622
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Speaker 3: No, And the other side of it is that you

623
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 3: also and I have friends that are police, and they'll

624
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: talk about courts. I mean, here's the thing. You also

625
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: want your civil rights, your civil liberties to be protected

626
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: and adhered to. No differently, than anyone Else's whether you're

627
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: in a uniform wearing a badge and a side arm

628
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: and doing you know, the government work as a police

629
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: officer or a federal authority or otherwise. We all do

630
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: have rights and that does not cease just because there

631
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: is some type of back and forth and that has

632
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 3: to be respected both ways in my view. Anyway too,

633
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: All right, the Bob, But your turn with Sterling and

634
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 3: Donnade on the big one.

635
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Speaker 10: Yeah, this is real possible that the settlement discussions are

636
00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 10: being driven by the city's insurance company. There have been

637
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 10: some large jury vertices involving governmental agencies that's screwed up.

638
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 10: And I'm not saying anybody screwed up, but the insurance

639
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 10: company may be afraid of getting a large judgment against

640
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 10: the city, right, and therefore they are telling us sit

641
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 10: he look, we can settle this, and if the city

642
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 10: doesn't agree to that, the insurance company can then deny

643
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 10: the obligation of reimbursement.

644
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I would love to Bob, And that's

645
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: a great place point that I really hate to think

646
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 3: would be the reality of the circumstance for those not

647
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 3: knowing about this. And I think that the city would

648
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 3: be negotiating a settlement because of that, even though it

649
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 3: seems completely inappropriately, there.

650
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Speaker 4: Has to be some moral judgment here on whether right

651
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 4: and wrong does matter.

652
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: It does, and so money should be set aside.

653
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: And we had a call earlier with Jim supporting the

654
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 4: police officer that put his life on the line. That

655
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 4: is very, very that should take precedent over any kind

656
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 4: of settlement.

657
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Speaker 3: You have a fire arm in your hand, you're fleeing

658
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: police involved in a heist of a car, and you're

659
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: not doing what they say. You exit the vehicle with

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Speaker 3: the gun in hand. What exactly is it that you

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Speaker 3: expect someone to do in that situation?

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Speaker 2: How is that not justified?

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Speaker 3: In the defense the Dark County, Steve was Stirling and

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Speaker 3: Donnade on the Big One for Scott Sloan. What's going on, Steve?

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Speaker 9: Hey, here's my thoughts on this.

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Speaker 13: The City of Cincinnati pays out any day, and I

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Speaker 13: understand what your last.

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Speaker 5: Caller just said. He's not wrong in.

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Speaker 13: The thought process, but I think the family of the

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Speaker 13: dead police officer should then sue the family for that

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Speaker 13: amount because he's just as dead in a wrongful death.

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Speaker 6: Am I.

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Speaker 3: I'm processing it. I mean, no, I see what he's saying,

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Speaker 3: but it wasn't the wrongful. Yeah, that is great.

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Speaker 4: I see what he's saying, because he should just get

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Speaker 4: the money back because here he is the officer for

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Speaker 4: no fault of his own has been run over and

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Speaker 4: now he's not he's deceased as well. But the officer

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Speaker 4: was justified in many ways unfortunately killing that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's so many layers to that with that, Dad,

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Speaker 3: I mean he targeted that deputy. I mean out there

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Speaker 3: just helping people get around, you see. And it was

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Speaker 3: graduation time. Was that the first of May of commencement

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Speaker 3: stuff or whatever else in and around there.

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Speaker 2: It was just horrific. Uh.

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Speaker 3: I'm just still trying to make sense of the idea

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Speaker 3: that for an insurance purpose and CYA or otherwise Donna

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Speaker 3: that they're like, we should just negotiate a settlement on this.

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Speaker 2: It was just a viable shooting.

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Speaker 1: That is the problem of why.

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Speaker 4: Billable hours and and and insurance purposes. That's where we

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Speaker 4: go wrong on a lot of things. I mean, Gary

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Speaker 4: had a very good point there, or.

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Speaker 3: Bob rather hard to make sense of that at all.

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Speaker 3: It's a Friday Scott Sloane Show. Sterling and Donna d

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Speaker 3: coming back after your ten o'clock reporter update on what's

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Speaker 3: going on around the tri State and Planet Earth that

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Speaker 3: matters to us. Here, Chris lewis you see health? Doc

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Speaker 3: gonna join us talk about new dietary guidelines trying to

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Speaker 3: get fit and healthy into the warm year. In front

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Speaker 3: of us, they've turned the pyramid upside down. I don't

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Speaker 3: know whatever, really.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for this discussion.

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Speaker 3: And we'll talk flu. If you're hacking or know someone

706
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: whose nose is running, if your nose is sore from

707
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Speaker 3: blowing it too much, this could be a time for

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Speaker 3: you to find your way to good health as well.

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Speaker 3: Either way, we'll have some lasts. Glad you're along. By

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Speaker 3: the way, this the home of the Red seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American idiot?

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Speaker 3: All right, it's a Friday Scott Sloan show. He's enjoying

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Speaker 3: a day off, long weekend for him. Gives me some

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Speaker 3: time with Donna d And here we are Sterling and

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Speaker 3: Donna de.

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Speaker 1: Hey bringing the greens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: You don't is a company I worked with.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's his regular opening man, Doctor Chris Lewis is

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Speaker 3: a guy who knows a little bit about family medicine

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Speaker 3: from UC Health kind enough to give us some time

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Speaker 3: on a Friday morning at Scott Sloan Show. Welcome. You're

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Speaker 3: with Stirling and Donna d uh. First of all, explain

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Speaker 3: to me the new upside down food pyramid. And Donna

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Speaker 3: had a great question off the year, which was simply, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't see any seeds or nuts on there.

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Speaker 3: She's very concerned. She's a nut eating it's berry. She's

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Speaker 3: eating a bag of nuts and berries right now.

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Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate your concern, Donna, And first let me

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Speaker 5: just say thank you for having me. I appreciate all

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Speaker 5: that you all do for Sony is to editate our community.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, if you if you're taking a look or

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Speaker 5: turned on the news, you've seen that the food pyramid

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Speaker 5: has been inverted. It's kind of been slipped upside down,

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Speaker 5: and it's a little bit different than what you expect.

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Speaker 5: Our original US food pyramid was pretty in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 5: two and then revise again in two thousand and five

738
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Speaker 5: and again in twenty eleven. But this looks a little

739
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Speaker 5: bit different, and there's a little bit of controversy in

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Speaker 5: the medical community about it.

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Speaker 2: What's controversial, Well.

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Speaker 5: There's a big emphasis on protein, essentially recommending that people

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Speaker 5: double their protein impact, and that's actually some people think

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Speaker 5: that that's a good thing because of what it can

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Speaker 5: do to give you a sense of fullness and decrease

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Speaker 5: your appetite and add muscle mass. But there's also concern

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Speaker 5: about the emphasis on red meat and full dairy that

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Speaker 5: that might actually kind of contradict some recommendations that have

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Speaker 5: been long existing from the American Heart Association based on

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Speaker 5: decades of research linking you know, a lot of protein

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Speaker 5: and full fat dairy to cardiovascular risk.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, clogging arteries and things like that. And you know,

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Speaker 4: even a piece of all you have to do is

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Speaker 4: do the research on this. And even if you do

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Speaker 4: eat a bunch of red meat eat it takes a

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Speaker 4: long time and a lot of energy to digest a

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Speaker 4: piece like a steak, a red meat steak or even

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Speaker 4: protein period. So if you keep adding it and you double,

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Speaker 4: I couldn't agree with the with the assessment. But the

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Speaker 4: original food pyramid is because I just pulled it up

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Speaker 4: because I haven't seen this in a long time.

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Speaker 1: It's like the top part, so it's a diagonal.

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Speaker 4: The top part is fats, oils and sweets, so you

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Speaker 4: use those sparingly. Then it goes to milk, yogurt and cheese,

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Speaker 4: then vegetables and then bread, cereal, rice and pasta.

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Speaker 1: That was the old one in the and.

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Speaker 4: The big one that everybody should eat and could eat

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Speaker 4: six to eleven servings is bread, cereal, rice and pasta.

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Speaker 4: And they've flipped that and they say no more processed foods.

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Speaker 1: That's the big deal.

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Speaker 4: And I agree with that too, eat whole foods, fruits, veggies,

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Speaker 4: and nuts and seeds. But yeah, doubling on protein, I

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Speaker 4: don't think I agree with.

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Speaker 3: Talking to doctor Chris Lewis from U see Health of

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Speaker 3: Stirling and Donna a d and for Scott Sloan. So

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Speaker 3: how much of a problem is the mult processed food

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Speaker 3: in the idea that you alluded to, which is the

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Speaker 3: fact that maybe heavy in protein more than maybe a

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Speaker 3: lot of dogs might agree with with what the data

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Speaker 3: they have now?

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Speaker 2: Is that correct?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, the protein and the high sat aside, which

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Speaker 5: is one of the biggest controversial things that we're seeing

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Speaker 5: with the new one. D I think there's universal agree

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Speaker 5: or pretty universal agreement that de emphasizing sugar and process

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Speaker 5: foods is a good idea, and the emphasis on whole

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Speaker 5: foods is great, And Donna, what's your recoon what you're

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Speaker 5: talking about with the shape of the pyramid, you know,

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Speaker 5: there's also just a little bit of controversy on, you know,

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Speaker 5: inverting it and not really having it's harder when you

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Speaker 5: look at this one to really figure out portion, sizes

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Speaker 5: and quantity of food. Then that was a good thing

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Speaker 5: from the former food pyramid. And then in twenty eleven

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Speaker 5: we kind of switched to more of the my plate

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Speaker 5: where you had this plate broken down in terms of

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Speaker 5: size of protein, vegetables, grains, and fruits, and that was

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Speaker 5: maybe a little bit easier for the for the common

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Speaker 5: person to really kind of digest that the new Fearman

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Speaker 5: just the new Superman. The visual of it isn't quite

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Speaker 5: as easy to digest for.

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Speaker 1: Lack of a better workers fun intended.

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Speaker 4: So so everybody agrees that there should be less processed foods,

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Speaker 4: less sugar, because we know how destructive that is.

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Speaker 2: All that stuff is so.

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Speaker 4: Good well, I mean, cereal still is really good, but

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Speaker 4: so but also controversial is the double on protein and

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Speaker 4: how do we even maintain that because there's you know

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Speaker 4: that what they're talking about is animal protein, not not

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Speaker 4: protein from nuts and seeds and green leafies and and

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Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. So we can't even we can't.

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Speaker 4: I mean, how many animals do we? We kill billions

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Speaker 4: a year for that? How how are we going to

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Speaker 4: double that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and there are ways to get a lot of

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Speaker 5: protein through through non animal products, and there's the rise

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Speaker 5: of the protein shakes and that sort of thing. That

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Speaker 5: brings up another point of the controversy is that there's

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Speaker 5: a little bit of concern in the medical community that

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Speaker 5: some of the recommendations may be more heavily influenced by

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Speaker 5: particular industries than in the past. So that's always something

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Speaker 5: to look at. But you know, I think first and

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Speaker 5: foremost people ought to be plugged in with their primary

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Speaker 5: care for this or their healthcare network to make sure

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Speaker 5: that they can talk to an expert, to someone who

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Speaker 5: does this for a living and who can really give

826
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Speaker 5: them tailored advice on nutrition and health based on their

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Speaker 5: own health conditions and family history and genetics and all

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Speaker 5: those sorts of things.

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Speaker 3: Talking to you see health, so family medicine dot Chris

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Speaker 3: Lewis was Stirling and Donnade on the big one and

831
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Speaker 3: for Scott Sloan. So you said something interesting. So the

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Speaker 3: idea is that what it sounded like is that this

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Speaker 3: recommendation and the way they've moved through it is more

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Speaker 3: about improving business interest rather than the US citizen's health interest.

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Speaker 3: I mean, did I did I hear that correctly?

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Speaker 13: No?

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Speaker 5: You didn't. There might have been some inference, but I'm

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Speaker 5: going to say a political on this, and I would

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Speaker 5: just say that the reports coming out of the medical community,

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Speaker 5: and there there are some concerns coming from the medical

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Speaker 5: community that that have that that raised that question. I

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Speaker 5: don't think anybody's pointed fingers just quite yet, but it

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Speaker 5: does seem a little odd some of the recommendations, how

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Speaker 5: they kind of fly in the face of decades of

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Speaker 5: research that that that that proved health and safety and

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Speaker 5: have been the backbone of some of the guidelines that

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Speaker 5: have existed and agreed upon through all the physician agencies,

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Speaker 5: the government agencies like the Food and Drug Administration, research,

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Speaker 5: the American Heart Association, all all of that research and

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Speaker 5: some of this doesn't really align with that, so it

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Speaker 5: raises questions.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris, it did sound a little bit harsher the

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Speaker 4: ways I was just trying to I wasn't trying to

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Speaker 4: cause problems. But it's interesting because we know heart disease

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Speaker 4: or a heart attack is lack of blood and or

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Speaker 4: oxygen to the heart.

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Speaker 1: A stroke is lack of blood.

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Speaker 4: You have to have your blood moving freely through the body,

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Speaker 4: and when you have a lot of fatty meats and

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Speaker 4: dairy and things like that, it's clogging your arteries. So

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Speaker 4: it makes it harder to get the blood to the

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Speaker 4: heart and blood to the brain and things like that.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, I'm not a physician, and I'm not

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Speaker 4: here to claim that, but I do a lot of

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Speaker 4: research because I actually am plant based, and one of

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Speaker 4: the reasons is for my health because of those statistics

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Speaker 4: from many of the associations that you just mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Chris, I've been called a vegetable.

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Speaker 5: And I've been play family doctor for twenty three years

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Speaker 5: or twenty six years now, sorry, I've been a family

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Speaker 5: doctor for twenty six years and every year the highest thing,

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Speaker 5: the most common things that I see your high blood pressure, diabetes,

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Speaker 5: and high cholesterol. And I have concerns about my patients

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Speaker 5: following some of the new guidelines without proper vetting without

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Speaker 5: talking to me first, how big of.

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Speaker 3: A problem in the twenty five, twenty six years, whatever

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Speaker 3: it's been that you've been doing what you do in

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Speaker 3: family practice, doctor Lewis, Are we healthier now or not

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Speaker 3: as healthy as we used to be?

880
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 5: It depends on who you talk to, and there are

881
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 5: certain segments of the population that are a lot healthier

882
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 5: certain segments that that aren't quite as healthy. Unfortunately, there

883
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 5: tends to be a correlation between income in the community

884
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 5: in which you live and in your own personal income

885
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 5: and how healthy you are. It's not, you know, an

886
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 5: exact science, but I am a little bit concerned about

887
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 5: what's happening in some of our communities that don't have

888
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 5: the same sorts of means as other communities. You know,

889
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 5: So some of the things that are coming down the

890
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 5: pike with with changes to Medicaid and insurance are really

891
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 5: hurting in particular rural communities and critical access hospitals. So,

892
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 5: you know, the question is it's hard to answer it

893
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 5: with a blanket answer, but there are ways in which

894
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 5: we're a lot healthier. There are ways in which we're

895
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 5: not a lot healthier, And the growing number of people

896
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 5: with diabetes and heart disease and high blood pressure. Those

897
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 5: things concern me and the future generation of doctors as well.

898
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 4: So as a family doctor or physician yourself, I have

899
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 4: to ask you what you think of the glp ones,

900
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 4: the ozempics and things like that. Is it healthy to

901
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 4: be on those You hear so many different sides to

902
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 4: this story. But I've seen friends of mine that have

903
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 4: lost fifty pounds and they've had weight issues their whole life,

904
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 4: and they've been on these and you seem healthier, live better,

905
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 4: not stressed out.

906
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: What is your opinion on that?

907
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 5: Well, I'll pressure my thoughts by saying that I, in general,

908
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 5: tend to be slow to jump on new medications. That

909
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 5: that's just my own personal style. I do know that

910
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 5: there are physicians that feel that they are safely prescribing

911
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 5: these medications and having profound impacts and the health of

912
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 5: their patients. I know many doctors that under the supervision

913
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 5: of their healthcare providers are on these medications and getting

914
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 5: very good health results. I think the danger right now

915
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 5: for me lives in people who are accessing these medications

916
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 5: without healthcare providers, you know, the supervision, and I think

917
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 5: that can be dangerous.

918
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 3: Doctor Lewis how does someone get their hands on It's

919
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 3: a prescribed drug, right, so how are they getting their

920
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: hands on it without a doctor writing the prescription, going

921
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 3: to the pharmacy, or at least having it sent there

922
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 3: and having it delivered or otherwise.

923
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if I want to tell you that,

924
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,959
Speaker 5: because then all your listeners might go in to start

925
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 5: the system by going outside of the US. That is

926
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 5: one of the more common ways to do that.

927
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 6: Well.

928
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 4: And there's also like new things where you don't have

929
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 4: to gum or something that you don't have to you know,

930
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 4: inject yourself with it. There's all kinds of new ways

931
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 4: to get this. I think this will be readily available

932
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 4: to everybody in the next few years.

933
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 2: Interesting.

934
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see how this plays out long

935
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 3: term and the effects of that. I'm all for being

936
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 3: a little bit more cautious, but I'm no doctor, and

937
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: I don't want to play on the radio. That's why

938
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 3: we have Chris Lewis, a doctor family medicine, a specialist

939
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 3: from UC Health. With Stirling and Donade on the big one.

940
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 3: Let's switch this if we can, because there's a whole

941
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 3: lot of people that have been missing work, missing school

942
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 3: since it's come back back from the holidays, whether it's

943
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 3: the croup or bronchitis. Seems the flu is going around.

944
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: The flu shot is still very effective, but apparently the

945
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: strain that's really whipping up a lot of trouble is

946
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: not covered under that. How do we look this week

947
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 3: compared to say last week, and what you're seeing and

948
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 3: what you're hearing, Doctor lewis Well.

949
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 5: In addition to being in a family tradition with UC help,

950
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 5: I also serve on our Cincinnati Board of Health, so

951
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 5: I'm due to get our latest report on Tuesday. But

952
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 5: looking at the previous report, still continues to trend upward,

953
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 5: steep upward trend for flu since December. And you're exactly right.

954
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 5: This influenza strain called stub played K is the big

955
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 5: one that's impacting southwest Ohio. It is not fully cut

956
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 5: by the flu vaccine. But I want to make sure

957
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 5: that your listeners understand that that doesn't mean that you

958
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 5: shouldn't get the flu vaccine. The vaccine helps prevent the

959
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 5: spread and also lessen the symptoms if you do can

960
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 5: contract the virus, so it is still universally recommended to

961
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 5: get your flu vaccine.

962
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 4: Doctor Lewis, do you recommend getting the COVID vaccine as well?

963
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 6: I do.

964
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 5: I'm a big proponent of both the COVID and the

965
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 5: flu vaccine. Despite all of this political and social media

966
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 5: controversy out there, vaccine saved lives and that's been demonstrated

967
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 5: time and time and time again through the science, and

968
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 5: I would highly encourage people to talk to their healthcare

969
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 5: provider for the most accurate vaccine recommendations tailored to their

970
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 5: own particular health situation.

971
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 3: Doctor Chris Lewis from U SEE Health with Stirling and

972
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: Donnade on the Big One, How has it changed? You mentioned,

973
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: you know, what they people see online and so forth.

974
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 3: Did they come in and then counsel with you? You know,

975
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 3: It's one of the questions I've had interesting conversations with

976
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 3: other docs about whether it was pharmaceutical companies running ads

977
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 3: and then having people tell doctors what medication they think

978
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 3: they should be on, rather than allowing doctors to do

979
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 3: the doctoring. How has that change? And what are you

980
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 3: seeing trend wise with your patient roster or others that

981
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 3: you're hearing about with people coming in, Are they taking

982
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 3: counsel from you in an effective, good way or is

983
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 3: a lot of the outside interference in static, complicated what

984
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 3: you do and people's health outcomes.

985
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 2: Do you think.

986
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 5: I absolutely love having educated patients and love having patients

987
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 5: that seek out information. So I will never discount the

988
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 5: usefulness of patients taking their health into their own hands.

989
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 5: What I do recommend is there are certain sources of

990
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 5: information that are trusted and certain sources of information that

991
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 5: may not have that same sort of rigorous, peer reviewed

992
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 5: scientific data approach. So when you're looking at record mandations,

993
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 5: I tend to really put a lot of stock in

994
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 5: what the physician groups are saying, you know, the American

995
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 5: Medical Association, the American Heart Association. You know, when you

996
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 5: have organized medicine and groups of healthcare providers that get

997
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 5: together with no political influence to make recommendations based on

998
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 5: the health and safety of individual patients and communities that

999
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 5: we serve, it's I think it's easier to put a

1000
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 5: lot of stock in those recommendations. So for patients that

1001
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 5: are eager to do their own doctoring and to look

1002
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 5: up things on the Internet and look at various sites

1003
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 5: and things like that, I would encourage them to have

1004
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 5: a little bit of discretion about what sites they're using

1005
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 5: and direct people towards those sources of trusted sites.

1006
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 4: One more question I have to ask him, because I

1007
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 4: do this all the time, maybe even a little bit

1008
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 4: too much. If I have like you know, I have

1009
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 4: this weird thing on my forehead and I took a

1010
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 4: picture of it, and I found out the dermatologists. I

1011
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 4: asked Chatchypt everything. I put in as much information as

1012
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 4: I could. When it appeared what I have never I

1013
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 4: thought I got hit in the head with my foster

1014
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 4: dog because it, you know, and everything it told me,

1015
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 4: I went to the dermatologist.

1016
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 1: And it was correct.

1017
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 4: How much should we How much should we invest in

1018
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 4: believing in Chatchept and the like.

1019
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 5: I think the AI is going to continue to get better,

1020
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 5: and there's a lot of truth to be found. But

1021
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 5: you know, at the end of the day, the healthcare

1022
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 5: industry is a ten trillion dollar industry. And if you

1023
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 5: think that people aren't going to try to take advantage

1024
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 5: of you to make them buck, I think that would

1025
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 5: be that would be shortsighted.

1026
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 3: Great information. We appreciate you making time. We know you're

1027
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 3: busy getting people healthy and keeping them that way too.

1028
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 3: From Uce Health, a family medicine doctor also doing Stuffhamlet

1029
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 3: County Boor of Health doctor Chris Lewis. Thank you for

1030
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 3: making time with us. I want to go to.

1031
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: Me, doctor Lewis. I want him to be my doctor.

1032
00:53:59,640 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: You can do.

1033
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 5: I appreciate all you community.

1034
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we appreciate you too. Thank you very much.

1035
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 4: Great is that you don't really ever hear doctor talk

1036
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 4: like that.

1037
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

1038
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 3: Okay, Well for me, well I understand. Yeah, I mean

1039
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 3: we can get him money.

1040
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 2: You want to do it. We could do a visit

1041
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: right here. It would be different. We can do it.

1042
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.

1043
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 3: Why not your ten thirty reports that are coming up

1044
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 3: an idea as to what's going on in the news

1045
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 3: around the tri state and beyond. Kevin Carr, a movie

1046
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 3: guy from Silber Gecko and h sub Stack in Fat

1047
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 3: Guys that the movie is gonna join us on the

1048
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 3: other side. I feel healthier already. Yeah, I'm going to

1049
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 3: be eating everything on that food triangle immediately. Bring on

1050
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 3: the state. It's Sterling and Donna d for Scott Sloan

1051
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 3: on a beautiful Friday, seven hundred WLW. It's Sterling and

1052
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 3: Donna de hanging out nice. I think it's stopped raining.

1053
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 3: Scott Sloan enjoying a day off. Hopefully all is well

1054
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 3: with you and yours. Well, we've been serious. We've talked health,

1055
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 3: we've talked flu. We like solving the world's problems. No

1056
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 3: matter what ken Brew likes to say, we don't make

1057
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 3: them worse. Kevin Carr makes lots of things better, as

1058
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 3: well as taking the hit for us seeing movies that

1059
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 3: oftentimes are waste of time, that suck in parts of

1060
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 3: our lives that will never get bad because he's a

1061
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 3: civil servant of a different kind. Silver gecko on the substack,

1062
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 3: fat guys at the movies. Kevin, how are you, how's everything?

1063
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 3: Good morning?

1064
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 6: Good morning. I'm used to talking to you in the evening,

1065
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 6: so yeah, my voice is a little hoarse from waking.

1066
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 5: Up out of that kind of thing.

1067
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate doing I know, I know.

1068
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 4: I often you're total amateurs. I said to Sterling, like

1069
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 4: he's doing he's Sterling is on fire today, and I said,

1070
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 4: you need to get up earlier and more often.

1071
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 3: And I am awake. I'm just usually not talking publicly.

1072
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 3: I'm talking to my dog and roaming the neighborhood and

1073
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 3: doing other things. Uh, Kevin, this is a I know,

1074
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 3: it's like one of those award show weekend things before

1075
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 3: we get to it, and I think this is a

1076
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 3: like the Fun and an Award show because they think

1077
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 3: they all get tanked and like, you know, belligerent, which

1078
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 3: I enjoyed. That being said, though, at the movies getting

1079
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 3: out and about to maybe hide from the news and

1080
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 3: enjoy ourselves, is there anything actually worth our time going

1081
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 3: to the movie this weekend because this is that weird

1082
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 3: transitional first part of January.

1083
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, because we're in that time when there are a

1084
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 6: lot of like big like event films. You know, you

1085
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 6: still have Avatar in the theaters, You've got all the award

1086
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 6: films that are in the theaters, and then you got

1087
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 6: all the crap they're dumping out in January in the theaters.

1088
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 6: And when it comes to you know, you were describing

1089
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 6: what I do as a silver civil servant, you know,

1090
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 6: taking a hit for everybody for a movie sucks. I

1091
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 6: did that this week because I chose to go check

1092
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 6: out Greenland to Migration, which is the sequel to Greenland,

1093
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 6: which was a monestin about five years ago which Gerard

1094
00:56:54,840 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 6: Butler escaping a comet. He escapes to Greenland to to

1095
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 6: avoid this destructive comment that's gonna wipe out the world.

1096
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Speaker 6: Here's the sequel, five years ago. Don't don't worry about

1097
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 6: the science. Just everything's still on fire and blowing up.

1098
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 6: That that's that's what's happening. And the Greenland facility has

1099
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 6: been compromised, so they have to migrate south into France

1100
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 6: to try and find this zone of safety to live in.

1101
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 6: And you know, this really is terrible of a move.

1102
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 6: It's a disaster film in more ways than just the

1103
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 6: descriptive nature. It's well, part of it is the the

1104
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 6: the event already happened. The comet hit in the last movie,

1105
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 6: so you don't get that big build up to a

1106
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 6: climac again. Everything's destroyed already. So he and his wife

1107
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 6: and son are are sort of taking this journey and

1108
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 6: it's sort of like, you know, it's like The Lord

1109
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 6: of the Rings, if it was all dark and dingy

1110
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 6: and everything was destroyed and there's just a bunch of

1111
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 6: emo hobbits walking across Europe. It's that this movie is.

1112
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 6: It's it's a pale imitation. And what's weird about it too,

1113
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 6: This is a strange thing that kind of caught me.

1114
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 6: They have these needle drops in the soundtrack of popular songs,

1115
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,439
Speaker 6: but it feels like a k tel ad because they're

1116
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 6: like these soft rock hits that that don't really kind

1117
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 6: of make if that doesn't make the movie exciting, so

1118
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 6: it doesn't. Yeah, it just doesn't work. So here's the thing.

1119
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 6: There's another movie called Primate out which is about a

1120
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 6: killer eight cool and apparently that that's got some great

1121
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 6: reviews and it's doing well. So I chose poorly this weekend.

1122
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 6: And uh, that's my advice to use. Don't choose poorly.

1123
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 6: If you're gonna go see something, it can't be worse

1124
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 6: than Greenland too, So you can check out Primate.

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00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 4: That's That's the one I was going to ask you about.

1126
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 4: Is rated R. It's a horror film and it is.

1127
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get a monkey and ape whatever I mean, simeons,

1128
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 3: I mean, anytime you get a story about any any

1129
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 3: of those, it's fantastic.

1130
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, they go for the eyes, they go for your

1131
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 6: privates when they get mad. That is what happens with it.

1132
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 6: There's always here's the thing. First of all, I don't

1133
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 6: know if you've ever dealt with I've never dealt with

1134
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 6: apes and chips and that sort of thing. But I've

1135
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 6: dealt with monkeys. Monkeys are a bunch of jerks. They

1136
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 6: are not nice things. They're mischievous. They're just smart enough

1137
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 6: to be a pain. So yeah, and they'll poop everywhere

1138
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 6: they do it.

1139
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 3: Well, I think I've told you this. I know I've

1140
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 3: mentioned it on the year at least once. Is a

1141
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 3: kid growing up, I had a neighbor of the building

1142
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 3: next door, Todd, and they had a pet monkey, and

1143
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 3: all the time everybody go to his house, like after school,

1144
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 3: he'd be like, Oh, we're gonna do homework at Todd's house,

1145
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 3: go see the monkey. And that poor monkey was in

1146
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 3: this cage and all he did was fling poop at everybody.

1147
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 3: Was miserable all all the time, and I wanted to

1148
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 3: rescue the monkey. Mang goes, No, you can't do that.

1149
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 3: It's not your monkey. First of all, it's horrible. It's sad.

1150
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 3: I get what you're saying, but it could rip your

1151
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 3: face off, and it had these big teeth and they

1152
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 3: filed down.

1153
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 2: It was just a horrible thing.

1154
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 3: So, but I'd like to see a monkey movie.

1155
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 6: There's there's great movies about monkeys. Killing people.

1156
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, this discuss or apes.

1157
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 6: Really this is a chimpanzee. I believe so, because you

1158
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 6: know there's a difference. You know, the difference from monkeys

1159
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 6: and apes is I mean, there's certain evolutionary things, but

1160
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 6: monkeys have tails, apes don't. And so chimpanzees, Bonobo's gorillas, orangutangs,

1161
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 6: those are apes. And you know, rangutangs are no joke either,

1162
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 6: you know they there was that orangutang in those way

1163
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 6: but loose Clyde, Yeah, yeah, no orangutangs. Man watch out

1164
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 6: for them.

1165
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 3: They look so sweet, but that's that they are. But

1166
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 3: you know that's the thing that people are drawn to them.

1167
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 3: I remember being a kid going to the zoo and

1168
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 3: I thought, oh, they look so sweet. I'd like to

1169
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 3: get in there early. You can't do that, and we

1170
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 3: know how it worked out here some years ago. Sideways too,

1171
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 3: But there's a big difference.

1172
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: Devin.

1173
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Speaker 4: You the Golden Globes are on this Sunday. Do you

1174
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 4: still care to watch those? Is this something that you've

1175
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 4: ever watched or or you know, is it is it

1176
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 4: interesting to.

1177
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: You at all?

1178
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 9: Well?

1179
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 6: I mean I've watched the Golden Globes bits and times.

1180
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 6: It's not. You know, it's it's sort of like the

1181
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 6: precursor to the Oscars. Yeah, we had Critics' Choice last week,

1182
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 6: and now we've got the Golden Globes, and then I'm

1183
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 6: going to do the Oscars in a couple and in

1184
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 6: a month or two. I don't even think they have

1185
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 6: they haven't even dropped the nominations. The problem is there's

1186
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 6: so many awards now, uh and and they're so publicized

1187
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 6: that by the time you get to the Oscars, you

1188
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 6: know who's gonna win, and you know who's gonna win

1189
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 6: this one. I mean, the only thing that makes this

1190
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 6: interesting with the Golden Globes is they've got the split category.

1191
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 6: You know, they go drama and then they have musical

1192
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 6: or comedy, right, and pretty much I think one Battle

1193
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 6: after another is gonna sweep because it's sweeping everything that's

1194
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 6: in the comedy section. So in the drama section, I

1195
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 6: think Sinners is it's Sinners to lose, but it's all

1196
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 6: gonna be it's all gonna kind of coalesce around one

1197
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 6: battle after another or sinners. You're gonna get a couple

1198
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 6: of average awards, not from those movies, you know, like

1199
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 6: Jesse Buckley might win Best Actress for Hamnet.

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01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 4: But what about Timothy Shallo May. I mean he won

1201
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 4: the critics' choice. He's up against Leo DiCaprio. You think

1202
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 4: DiCaprio is gonna be Timothy Shallo May.

1203
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 6: I think Timothy Shallo May has has momentum on his side.

1204
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 6: I'm not a big fan. I am not what you

1205
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 6: call a Shala maniac.

1206
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: So many guys are not. It's sterling. It is the

1207
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: weirdest thing.

1208
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 4: Literally, when I ask guys about Timothy Shallo may as,

1209
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 4: I was asking Jack Crumley. He's not a huge fan either.

1210
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 4: It's so funny. Why is Tell me why you're not

1211
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 4: a huge fan?

1212
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: Kevin Well.

1213
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 6: I mean the guy can act. Look, I don't get

1214
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 6: me wrong. I believe he can act. But you know

1215
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 6: my biggest problem. Cut your dog on hair. You know

1216
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 6: he has the same hairstyle in every movie he does,

1217
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 6: whether it's Doom, Little Women or Wonk. I mean, he's

1218
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 6: got the same hair. Just get a style. You are

1219
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 6: dating a Jenner for crying out loud, you should have

1220
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 6: access to better hair, dudes.

1221
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 14: I see.

1222
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 3: Because I I for some reason for the longest time,

1223
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 3: and this lets you know how engaged involved I am,

1224
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 3: and what it means to me. I for some reason

1225
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 3: thought that the guy from the Bear was to the

1226
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 3: Tynathy Shallow, but Jeremy Allen was, Yeah, but they're not

1227
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 3: the same guy.

1228
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 6: He played Bruce Springstein. Yeah, that's his Award film.

1229
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: How did you like that Bruce Springstein film?

1230
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 6: It's okay, it's a little long. A lot of times

1231
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 6: they get long and drawn out. And one of the

1232
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,919
Speaker 6: things that I felt the same way about Songs on Blue,

1233
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 6: which is a good song, a good movie, but half

1234
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 6: the movie is spent recreating the music, and I'm like, well,

1235
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 6: I can just go pick up the album.

1236
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1237
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 6: Ye, to me, that's not super impressive. I mean sometimes

1238
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 6: it's done really well. I think Rocketman did it well

1239
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 6: in a Bolimian did as well. But yeah, I mean,

1240
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 6: if I really want to hear a good, good version

1241
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 6: of Born in the USA, I'm just gonna listen to

1242
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 6: the original recording.

1243
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 3: And I know I heard Dan Carroll the other night

1244
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 3: going on about this, and we discussed this that the

1245
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 3: you know, the movie that's out now is everybody seems

1246
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 3: to think it is somehow, uh a documentary or sort

1247
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 3: of like the Springsteen movie for uh, sweet Caroline, Guy.

1248
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 2: What's right that it's it's it's other people.

1249
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 3: There are people that are doing his show or acting,

1250
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 3: like what do you call it?

1251
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 5: You know?

1252
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: The impressed cover.

1253
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 6: Is what it is.

1254
01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 2: It's a really weird thory.

1255
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 6: It is a true story. There was a documentary on

1256
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 6: this several years ago. But yeah, so yeah, it's that

1257
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 6: I think is a little little more interesting. But still

1258
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 6: it's like, look, you gotta really like Neil Diamond stuff.

1259
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 6: And they do some deep cuts in those. You know,

1260
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 6: they got Suliman as one of their big songs. Nobody

1261
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 6: knows that.

1262
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 3: It's just an odd thing, you know, is someone doing

1263
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 3: a cover acd ends up you get in the movie

1264
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 3: about them, but say it's heartwarming and all the other

1265
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 3: stuff that goes along with it.

1266
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 4: It's just all I haven't seen Avatar two. Did you

1267
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 4: like that? I mean everybody? It's getting pretty good reviews

1268
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 4: and it's certainly a big blockbuster.

1269
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: Did you like it, Kevin?

1270
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 6: Well, it's Avatar three. It's the third one actually, so

1271
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 6: the second one came out about three years ago.

1272
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: What did I say? Avatar two mean too?

1273
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 6: I just want to make sure you know that there

1274
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 6: was another one in between. They're very similar and they're good.

1275
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 6: They're spectacle, that's what they are. I mean, you want

1276
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 6: to see something with amazing special effects and great action.

1277
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 6: It's one of those movies that's worked. Going to go

1278
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 6: see an imax. It's actually worth checking him out in

1279
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 6: a high frame, right, even though it does kind of

1280
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 6: have that that so properly look to it. But yeah,

1281
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,479
Speaker 6: it's a good movie. It's it's it's it's Cameron doing

1282
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 6: what he does very very well. So yeah, if you

1283
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 6: want the spectacle, but you know, as Sterling points out,

1284
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 6: you may want to get the catheter because it is

1285
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 6: three hours and eighteen.

1286
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's long. That is that's little. I don't know

1287
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 4: a longer movie than that. Is there a longer movie

1288
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 4: than that three hours?

1289
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 6: Whether the Brutalist Brutalist last year was like four.

1290
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: Hours, Wow, that's brutal, and.

1291
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 6: I think I think Gone with the Wind is push

1292
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 6: pushes four hours. But yeah, they usually don't make them

1293
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 6: over three too much.

1294
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 3: Now, Hugh Jackman's doing this other thing too, which is

1295
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 3: this Death of Robin Hood movie or whatever else too

1296
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 3: that that seems a little better than than than the

1297
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 3: other thing. Does that look as good to you? And

1298
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 3: it tells a different story of robin Hood. I kind

1299
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 3: of seem interested in that rather than the warm and fuzzy,

1300
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 3: hold hands and sing song stuff.

1301
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe maybe I'll get a problem.

1302
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 6: I think the thing is, they do so many different

1303
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 6: versions of Robinhood. I'm not terribly familiar with this new one.

1304
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 6: I think he should dress up as a fox, and

1305
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 6: you should have a guy who dresses up as as

1306
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 6: a bear, you know, and and and and just do

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Speaker 6: it as the Disney version of Robinhood, but with really

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01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 6: bad constumes. I think more interesting.

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Speaker 2: That's a whole nother show. That's a whole nother angle.

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Speaker 3: Anything else the consequence before he let you bounce off

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01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 3: into enjoy the rest of your Kevin Carr Silver Gecko

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Speaker 3: on Substack Weekend.

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Speaker 6: No, I mean I think that that those are the

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01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 6: big ones in the theaters you still got to. I

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01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 6: still haven't seen any combat, and I really want to.

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Speaker 2: It looks good because it looks so stupid.

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01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the first movie was too. It wasn't even

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01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 3: I don't think it was supposed to be funny. But

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01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 3: I laughed through that whole ice Cube movie with Jennifer

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01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 3: Lopez and John Boyd.

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01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 6: When chewing the scenery and the worst Peruvian accent ever.

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01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 6: I mean, and what I loved about what I love

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01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 6: about this movie is it treats it like at least

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01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 6: it seems to treat that one with reverence good, which

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01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 6: it does not earn. And I do want to see it.

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01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 6: I haven't gotten around to it yet because well, you know,

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01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 6: there's a lot of other movies I had to see.

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01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 3: You do what you can do, and it's all you can.

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01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 3: We always appreciate your time and doing what you do.

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01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 3: Go take a nap. We appreciate you giving us some

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01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 3: time earlier than normal. Kevin Carr, silver Gecko on Substack,

1332
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 3: take care of yourself and avoid Greenland too.

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01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 6: Apparently can't.

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01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 2: I already did it, Im Sorry.

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01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we're a lot. Apparently we were

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01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 3: trying to get there anyway. But that's a whole other conversation, Kevin,

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01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 3: take care of your Thanks, Kevin, appreciate it. You know,

1338
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 3: we got the eleven o'clock report coming up, and we're

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01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 3: gonna talk about relationship stuff of a different kind then.

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01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 3: But you mentioned something to me that I completely missed,

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01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 3: and we got a little bit of time to talk

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01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 3: about it. I want to understand. I thought it was

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01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 3: a band. You're like, if you heard about the walking Monks,

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01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, what are you talking about? Monks walking?

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01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 4: Where peace wuk? So we were talking about such negative stuff.

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01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 4: I'm like, can we throw in a little bit of positive?

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01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 4: Because there have been monks that are been walking from

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01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 4: Texas and they're walking to DC on a peace walk, right,

1349
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 4: and then there's all these people that know where their

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01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 4: journey is.

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01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,480
Speaker 1: They're following them on a website.

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01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 4: And they've got this cute dog, which you would love,

1353
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 4: a looca who they found in another country and now

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01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 4: he's in the United States and he's walking with them

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Speaker 4: as well, and they have support vehicles and things like that.

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01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 4: Two of them actually got hit by a car and

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Speaker 4: one of them lost half their leg and they're still

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Speaker 4: on the walk.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's he lost his leg and they sowed

1360
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 3: him up and he's met the monks walking.

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01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,799
Speaker 4: In a wheelchair and they all paid respect because he, yes.

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01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 2: Took the hit forever. Yes literally it is.

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01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: It's literally, yes he did.

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Speaker 4: It's a beautiful thing and a lot of people are

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01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 4: affected by it, myself included, because to see these to

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Speaker 4: see these beautiful walking for so many days, so many hours,

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Speaker 4: and and being treated with such grace and respect because

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Speaker 4: they were walking for peaces is lovely.

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01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 6: I know.

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01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 2: Do you think it's gonna do any good?

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01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 9: Though?

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Speaker 2: Does it make any.

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01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: Does to me? It makes difference to me.

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01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 2: But you're not wreaking havoc anyway. You're not at war.

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01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 3: I mean, whoever's fighting wars now or not going? You know,

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01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 3: those monks in the States on foot I lost a leg.

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Speaker 2: You serious?

1378
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 3: They found a dog and they're all rolling around. I

1379
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 3: don't know that they're going to go and respectfully, I

1380
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:37,719
Speaker 3: mean I respect that the protest or the peaceful effort

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01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 3: to raise awareness and bring good to the world.

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Speaker 1: Here's where I think it'll make a difference. You just

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01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: asked me that question.

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01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:46,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, so parents, parents are pulling their kids and waiting

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01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 4: for the monks, and they're in there, and they're saying,

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01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 4: look at this is a once in a lifetime Say,

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01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 4: have you ever met a monk in person?

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Speaker 2: Once?

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01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: You did?

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01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 3: I never have. I've never met a monk. They were

1391
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 3: on campus when I was at school at Wright State.

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01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 3: I don't know what they were doing. I came through,

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01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 3: we nodded, and I was onto class or went to sleep.

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01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 4: Okay, did you feel a certain Oh so you've never

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01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 4: really met.

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01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 2: Them, you've sing it down and talk well, but he

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01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 2: had the monk gear on, you know.

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01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 4: I mean, yes, living the monk life. But what I'm

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Speaker 4: saying is there's a different level of energy they exue. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So parents are actually bringing their kids to meet them,

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01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 4: and and and and show them. Hey, this is a

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01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 4: once in a lifetime thing. And I don't think those

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01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 4: kids are ever going to forget it.

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01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 3: I would hope they don't. I mean, it's a wonderful thing,

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01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 3: and I appreciate that. I just don't know. I mean,

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01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 3: maybe good for those kids and so forth, But I

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01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 3: don't think any warring parties at this point go. You know,

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01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 3: we were gonna blow up more stuff, but those damn

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01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 3: monks in the States have really made us revalue me.

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01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: Maybe there will be one.

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01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,719
Speaker 3: First, let's take a day off. You're eleven o'clock report

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01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 3: straight away. I am not the profit of doom, no

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01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 3: matter what Scott Sloan or at the day off at

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01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 3: Sterling donnade On the home of the Red seven hundred

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01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 3: w WELW, Cincinnati. To be an American, it's a Friday,

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01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 3: Scott Sloan Show, Sam Scott Sloan Slow. He's in a

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01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 3: day off, so it's us here, Sterling, Donnade hanging out.

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01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 3: Hopefully a good Friday for you guys. Lots of stuff

1419
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 3: in the news, everything else going on, and a little

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01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 3: bit later we'll talk on Bengals and so forth. And

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01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 3: you're an animal lover. We try to have Cincinnati Animal

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01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 3: Care on pretty regularly, try to help those in need

1423
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 3: with fostering, adoption, spang nootering, know all and sort of

1424
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 3: been that Bob Barker mode and so forth. You're fostering

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01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 3: a dog right now?

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01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:36,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a Stage five clinger.

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Speaker 4: I mean he is literally you know, I can't go anywhere.

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01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 4: So it's funny, Sterling, because I've never had a dog

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Speaker 4: like this before. He's so sweet and I mean, this

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01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 4: dog like looks right into my eyes. He's just he's bold,

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01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,560
Speaker 4: and he's fun and he's just he's crazy. He's not

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01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 4: even a year old. But I started looking into his

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01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 4: personality and what it means, and I found this really

1434
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 4: cool study about like the four signs.

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Speaker 1: That your dog loves you.

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01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 4: And they do these four things on a daily basis,

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01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 4: and you might construe them is something different like clingy

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01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 4: and you know, attachment issues and things like that. But

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01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 4: these are actually and it makes sense to me. Four

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01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 4: signs that your dog's things that they do every single day,

1441
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 4: little tiny signs that show you that they love you.

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01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 4: And I thought this was so cute because you're a

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01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 4: dog lover toos. So let's see if these crazy your

1444
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 4: dog crazy is on the list of things that he does.

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01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 4: The first sign that your dog loves you these little

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01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 4: tiny signs that they do every day when they follow

1447
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 4: you everywhere. They say, it's not attachment, it's safety. So

1448
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 4: the dog feels like, as long as I'm near you,

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01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 4: I'm okay.

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01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, does crazy do that?

1451
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 2: He does?

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01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 3: But see he's in a weird place right now, and

1453
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 3: that donnad I think he's testing me. It's like adolescents.

1454
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 3: He acts like he wants to be close, but really

1455
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 3: he wants to like find a way to steal cat

1456
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 3: food or whatever else. He's constantly testing. But yeah, he

1457
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 3: does follow me.

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01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: All yeah, it's so cute. All right.

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01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 4: So number two sign when your dog brings you like

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01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 4: these random items like socks or they're toys, it means

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01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 4: that you know, they share what they value most with

1462
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 4: the person they love. So this you know, my foster

1463
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 4: dog Gus, he has this blue ball and he puts

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01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 4: it in his mouth.

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01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: It is a giant ball and.

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01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 3: He already has a huge head. His body is his head,

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01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 3: yes exactly. He weighs forty two pounds and twenty of

1468
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 3: it is his head and he's got this giant mouth.

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01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 3: This is the biggest ball.

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01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 4: He doesn't want to give it up at all, but

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01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 4: he brings it to me all the time. It is

1472
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 4: really lays on my lap. Yeah, he loves with this

1473
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 4: ball in his mouth.

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01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 3: So knows you saved him. He's all like, you know,

1475
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:56,560
Speaker 3: and he wants to stay like, hey, he does. You

1476
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 3: haven't had like a ceremony a fool on a dophin, right,

1477
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 3: you're still just he knows.

1478
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 4: I have co fosters that when I travel, they're going

1479
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:04,759
Speaker 4: to take them and it's great.

1480
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: Okay.

1481
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 4: Number three, when they lean on you or press into

1482
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 4: your leg, that's comforting for them.

1483
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 1: That's that's your home to them.

1484
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 4: So that's when they you know, they lean into your leg,

1485
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 4: it's kind of like giving you a hug.

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01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 3: It's fine when they're small, but when they're you know,

1487
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 3: seventy eighty pounds dog, or when you're trying to work,

1488
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 3: like when I work at home lot all of the

1489
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 3: time and the dog on my foot wants to be

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01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 3: Can I get in the chair? No, there's no room

1491
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 3: for you in the chair. So that's love, it's not

1492
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 3: it's love. It's a sign that they love you. And

1493
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 3: the forest sign is when they sit near you quietly.

1494
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 3: It's a sign of loyalty. It's love without conditions and.

1495
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 4: Making sure that you're safe, right, So they're just kind

1496
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 4: of keeping guard. There was there was a time where

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01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 4: I have doggy door, and the first couple of weeks

1498
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,879
Speaker 4: this my foster dog Gus would get up like forty

1499
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 4: times in the middle of the night, go out the

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01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 4: doggy door and then jump back on him. I literally

1501
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 4: put in chat GPT what does this mean? And I

1502
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 4: came and it was him checking the house. He was

1503
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 4: on patrol. He was on patrol, so I had to

1504
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 4: block the doggie door at night so that he could rest.

1505
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 4: And it's a time for him to get off patrolling

1506
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 4: the house. He could rest and let it go. I

1507
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 4: actually had a conversation. You had a conversation with him,

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01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 4: and they said you can rest. It's okay, this is

1509
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 4: time to sleep. You don't have to be on patrol

1510
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 4: and watch the house.

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01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: And it worked. You never did it again after.

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01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 3: A You talked to him a lot. I talked to

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01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 3: that dog all the time. Yeah, so I'm not the

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01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 3: do you talk like? I mean, what kind of conversations

1515
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 3: do you have with the dog? I mean, I mean

1516
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 3: it's just about his behaviors? What's going on? Do you

1517
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 3: have like philosophical questions? What do you do when you

1518
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 3: talk to you? I talked to my dog when I

1519
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 3: walk the dog, and I think people see it and

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01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 3: they don't know if I have an ear button I'm

1521
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 3: on the phone, or if the me and they're like, oh,

1522
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 3: it's that guy again.

1523
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 4: Well, I think they like the tone of your voice

1524
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 4: and they like to know that they're paying you're paying

1525
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 4: attention to them. So I'll just did you like your

1526
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 4: dinner last night?

1527
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: Was it good? And a waggis tail? And are you

1528
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 1: ready to get some sleep? But you feel good? You know?

1529
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 4: I put before I left for the station, I put

1530
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 4: him in his little area and I'll be right back.

1531
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 4: Here's your bone, here's your water, here's your this, here's

1532
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 4: your that, so yeah, I think it's like, you know,

1533
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 4: just because they can't talk back to you doesn't mean

1534
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:27,839
Speaker 4: there's a million benefits too. And we're not here to promote.

1535
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 4: But I always love Cincinnati Animal Care. They do some

1536
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 4: great work in this industry. And if you want to foster,

1537
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 4: go on the website it may They make it so easy.

1538
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 4: And if you want to adopt a dog, it is

1539
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 4: so great to do that. But one of the other

1540
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 4: benefits I want to talk about in fostering and adopting

1541
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 4: and having a dog is when you walk them.

1542
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:46,759
Speaker 1: Dog Owners walk.

1543
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 4: We walk an average of three thousand steps more than

1544
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 4: non dog walkers a day, so you will get an

1545
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 4: average of three thousand And I think one of the

1546
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 4: greatest exercises, and I've been a yoga instruccher for a

1547
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 4: long time, walking is one of the greatest moving your body.

1548
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: Running is great.

1549
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 4: Walking everyone can do and you know, ten thousand steps

1550
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 4: a day is great.

1551
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 3: Certainly attainable with my dog. I gotta say Sterling and Donade.

1552
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 3: By the way, in for Scott Sloane, He's enjoying a

1553
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 3: Friday off, hopefully and enjoying it anyway. Hopefully you are

1554
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 3: too appreciate you being along my dog. We walk a lot,

1555
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 3: but I don't know what I'm getting out of it.

1556
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 3: First of all, he's like fifteen pounds right, and his

1557
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 3: legs are short, but he tends to walk at a

1558
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 3: quick clip. We do three, maybe four or five miles

1559
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,480
Speaker 3: a day. He likes this warmer weather. He's loving it. Yeah,

1560
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 3: it's a tiring thing for me, although I like the

1561
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 3: warm But my problem is he's got to stop and

1562
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 3: get his sniffs in, and then he's got to hike

1563
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 3: his leg on every random shrub and bush and light

1564
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 3: post and everything else that goes along with it. So

1565
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 3: I'm not really getting the benefit of the walk. We're

1566
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 3: not really walking like you know, if I was at

1567
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 3: with the mall walkers wherever you know, Kenwood Town Center

1568
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 3: or wherever else, I would. But you can't just drag

1569
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 3: him along. No, it's his walk. It's it's not for me.

1570
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 3: It's for him.

1571
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 4: Well it is, but it can be for both of

1572
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 4: you because even if you're outside.

1573
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: But yes, I do understand that.

1574
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 4: It's like my sister calls it their social media where

1575
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 4: they get to like sniff and look and say hi,

1576
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 4: and you're under the blue sky and everything else. But

1577
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 4: you are out in nature, so it's kind of a

1578
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 4: big deal too, and you are still getting steps in

1579
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 4: even though it might not be the normal kind when

1580
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:30,719
Speaker 4: you're walking by yourself.

1581
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 3: Do you do you think you have a good understanding

1582
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 3: of what Gus or any other dog that you've had,

1583
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 3: like Puka, what have you, and what they mean with

1584
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 3: the barks, like some stuff is obvious. Yeah, right, But

1585
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 3: my dog's a Schnauzer.

1586
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1587
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 3: And I did not go hunting for him. I found him.

1588
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 3: He was a street dog. And I don't know that

1589
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 3: I really want to know what he's saying. Is incessant barking.

1590
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 3: He's bred to bark, and at times I can tell

1591
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 3: he's frustrated for to tell me what he wants me

1592
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 3: to understand, and I have no clue that. On the

1593
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 3: other hand, I don't know that I want to know

1594
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 3: what he's saying.

1595
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 4: Well, if I if I could figure out what any

1596
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 4: dog is saying, I would love to speak animal. I

1597
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 4: would love to be able to decipher what animals are saying.

1598
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 4: But this one ironically doesn't bark that much. It's his

1599
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 4: saving grace. I will tell you that he is he is.

1600
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,640
Speaker 4: He barks when he hears a noise, that's pretty much it.

1601
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 3: Does everyone talk to their pets? I mean, like around

1602
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 3: the house, Like, here's the thing, are you talking to yourself?

1603
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 2: Are you talking? I'm just talking to the dog.

1604
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if it's any either way better

1605
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,919
Speaker 3: if you're just randomly walking and talking to yourself and muttering,

1606
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 3: And what's the difference, really, I mean, if I'm just

1607
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 3: in the neighborhood on my own walking, like I just

1608
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 3: trying to get my steps for some reason, I just

1609
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 3: getting steps and I'm and I don't have an earbud in.

1610
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 3: I'm not talking to you or somebody else. I'm just

1611
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 3: the weird guy in the neighborhood talking to himself when

1612
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 3: people are going to start watching.

1613
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 2: I mean, does everyone talk to their dog?

1614
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I will say when when I'm

1615
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 4: out walking and I run into another human that has

1616
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 4: a dog, usually most people will talk to the dog

1617
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 4: instead of the other person.

1618
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 3: No neighbor's dog names and not neighbors names exactly.

1619
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 4: So I mean, I do think I don't know why

1620
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 4: it's a comforting thing to like you, Oh, look.

1621
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: How cute you are.

1622
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 4: Look at your scarf, Look at your cute little jacket

1623
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 4: that you have on.

1624
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 1: Most people talk to Gus more than me. It's just

1625
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 1: so funny.

1626
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 4: I just think it's a comforting thing for people like

1627
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 4: to talk to the animals. But I mean, i'd like

1628
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 4: to think that people talk to their dogs.

1629
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 3: Well, we can't be two crazy people compared to everyone

1630
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:50,759
Speaker 3: else and we don't meet. Mental health is a serious issue, okay, problem, please,

1631
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 3: all right, But I mean I can't just be the

1632
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 3: two of us five one, three, seven hundred, the big one.

1633
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 3: Do you notice these signs that Donna mentioned about your

1634
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 3: dog loving you? Are you talking to your pa? Do

1635
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 3: you have conversations? Is it just you talking to yourself?

1636
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 3: Are we crazy people?

1637
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 2: I have many questions.

1638
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 3: I'm looking for answers to let's get to ed and

1639
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 3: Springfield with Stirling and Donnade, and for Sloany on a Friday?

1640
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 2: What's going on?

1641
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 5: Ed?

1642
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 6: Hey?

1643
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 5: How you doing good?

1644
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 2: Good? What's up?

1645
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 15: Okay? Well, I'm just said I've had several dogs. Actually

1646
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 15: all of them are named after football players, so I'm

1647
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 15: kind of weird. But absolutely I talked. I talked to

1648
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 15: my dogs. They give me better answers than my kids do.

1649
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 15: So I mean I got right now, right now I

1650
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 15: got a black and tan hound. I had to put

1651
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 15: two of the other ones down, so I also got

1652
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 15: a carrier boxer mix and my hound. Nobody can walk

1653
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 15: past the front of my house without him letting me

1654
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 15: know somebody's on the sidewalk. And originally I got he

1655
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 15: had a brother, and I got the brother as well,

1656
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 15: but he had to be put down because I work

1657
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,759
Speaker 15: at night, and I left my wife and my two.

1658
01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 9: Children at home.

1659
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 15: And I'm like, if anybody's stupid enough to try to

1660
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 15: with these dogs going nuts, But they make sense if you,

1661
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 15: if you understand what they're doing. My dog tells me

1662
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 15: things like what like like what, I'm not like a

1663
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 15: dog whisper right now. We found out a couple of

1664
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 15: days ago he's got diabetes, which is unfortunate when he

1665
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 15: needs his shot.

1666
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 10: For his food.

1667
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 15: It's a different thing. It's not he doesn't come in

1668
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 15: there and just spark in our face. He does like

1669
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 15: a moan, like a whine, like hey, I'm not feeling

1670
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:36,680
Speaker 15: so good. You need to get up and help me

1671
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 15: because it can be in the middle of the night. Sure,

1672
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 15: So you just have to You have to learn how

1673
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 15: to what do they call that? Well, read them or

1674
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 15: translate whatever they're saying. But all my dogs talk to me.

1675
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 15: I can talk to the one dog right now. If

1676
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 15: I'm making noise, he makes a noise back, and it's

1677
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 15: just a game.

1678
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

1679
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 15: And like I said, we got a tattoo and the cat.

1680
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 15: You know, the cat just does his thing. He comes

1681
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 15: around when he wants to be headed, but other than that,

1682
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 15: he just does his own thing. But absolutely dogs talk.

1683
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 5: They talk to you.

1684
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 15: Just you gotta sit down and listen to him and

1685
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 15: figure out what's going on.

1686
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:14,560
Speaker 5: You got dog. That's the reason why department.

1687
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 15: And the one the other. The one other thing is

1688
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 15: I was totally against cages when I had my first

1689
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 15: dog when I was a young kid. But when me

1690
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 15: and my wife got married, they suggest that we do

1691
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 15: cages because that lets the dogs know that it's their

1692
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 15: time off. They're off duties. Yeah, they're off duty, so

1693
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 15: they can go to sleep. They don't have to worry

1694
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 15: about anything. And now he here's a noise, he's gonna

1695
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 15: probably rip the cage. It lets him know that there's

1696
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 15: nothing to worry about right now.

1697
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 5: Like everything's good.

1698
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 15: We're all going to sleep. Go in there and lay

1699
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 15: on your little patted dead and the thing now, we

1700
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 15: only put one of them in there now, but the

1701
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 15: other one's growing up that he Actually, I don't want

1702
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:57,679
Speaker 15: to say somebody sleeps in the bed.

1703
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 3: With us for me, my ex I mean it was

1704
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:04,680
Speaker 3: it was a menager and I appreciate the call me

1705
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 3: and thank you for sharing that too. And I know

1706
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 3: we're not the only ones, but we'd have like two

1707
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 3: three dogs to be a cat. And the only thing

1708
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 3: that wasn't in the bed was the turtle. Thank God

1709
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 3: for that. To Levin and Lynn was sterling and Donna

1710
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 3: die on the big one. Do you talk to your

1711
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 3: pets and how often? What kind of conversations do you have?

1712
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 16: Oh my gosh, the talking to the pet is routine

1713
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 16: because now the pets the.

1714
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 9: Dog, our dog expects the talk.

1715
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 16: Yes, yeah, I mean she's a.

1716
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 5: Routine on her talking.

1717
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 16: Every time I come down in the morning, you know

1718
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 16: she's there and rah rah. But no, I told you,

1719
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 16: I used to be a dog warden and I've probably

1720
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 16: had fifty dogs and now I'm down to one dog,

1721
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 16: which is hard, but you get to the point you

1722
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 16: have to downsize. But I carry on conversations with my dogs,

1723
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 16: and I think, oh, gosh, people around me must think

1724
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 16: I'm crazy, and oh gosh, so because my dog is

1725
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 16: the smartest.

1726
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 2: Person in the room. They are most of the time.

1727
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 3: They're limited, but they're just at a base level where

1728
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 3: if you just live more like a dog, I think

1729
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 3: we'd all be better off.

1730
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 1: Dogs and the best, aren't they, Len They are.

1731
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 10: Donna, they are.

1732
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 16: And I have just recently started going to shelters to

1733
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 16: walk dogs. You're talking about what the dogs need to

1734
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 16: be walked?

1735
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, hard.

1736
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 3: It gives them a break, doesn't it, So they can

1737
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 3: decompress a little bit and feel a little normalcy with

1738
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 3: humans too, which helps them.

1739
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 2: Maybe.

1740
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 3: On the other side, find someone who you know sees

1741
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 3: them is a more I guess, viable candidate to take home.

1742
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 16: Yes, Sterling, that's for sure. And Donna, thank you so

1743
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 16: much for everything.

1744
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 6: That you do.

1745
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 16: I really really appreciate people like you like, thank you

1746
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 16: for have thank you for having her on.

1747
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 3: Well, well, yeah, we're working together. We're working together all

1748
01:26:59,040 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 3: the time.

1749
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: Yeah no, and thank you for.

1750
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 3: Showing up and lynn all of us as we talk

1751
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 3: to our But you know what I'd like to get

1752
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 3: someone in answer for this. My dog will not eat

1753
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 3: his food unless I'm there, or he had or I

1754
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 3: have to be gone for like I if I'm out

1755
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 3: of town or you know, I'm gone for a couple

1756
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 3: of days and he's staying with someone else. I mean

1757
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 3: he like waits till desperation to eat his food. But

1758
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,640
Speaker 3: if I leave the room and he thinks or he

1759
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 3: has any inkling that he can go hijack the cat's food,

1760
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 3: whether he has to climb up on a table, I

1761
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 3: mean he has to like navigate his way up and

1762
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 3: over a gate. He will do that he can't get

1763
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 3: back over. But he won't eat the dog food alone.

1764
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 3: He'll eat the cat food all day long because he's

1765
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 3: histing it.

1766
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 4: That is crazy, crazy, Yeah, So put that in chat

1767
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 4: shept and they'll give you an answer.

1768
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 3: I mean it, I don't think the a I can.

1769
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 4: Try it, I'm telling you, but that is interesting. I

1770
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 4: mean the dog when I put the well, he's only

1771
01:27:58,439 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 4: he's not even here. How old is crazy?

1772
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 2: It's like ten.

1773
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 6: There.

1774
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this one's up, you know, not even a year.

1775
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 4: So he's got the puppy energy and so anytime I

1776
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 4: put anything in his bowl, it's gone within seconds.

1777
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 1: I mean literally, I'm like.

1778
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 4: Can you slow it? Down, you're gonna get digestive issues.

1779
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 4: I mean, he eats it so fast. It's crazy that

1780
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 4: your dog waits for you to be there.

1781
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 2: It's weird. It's interesting and it makes me feel better.

1782
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, you didn't eat. I'm like, well, I

1783
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 3: don't know what to tell you. Is he okay? No,

1784
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 3: he just doesn't like it. As if you have cat food,

1785
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 3: you have a cat, just leave the cat food down.

1786
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 3: He'll leave the cat food, yeah, which is horrible for them,

1787
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 3: their kidneys and all that. But it's just a strange thing.

1788
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 3: Five point three seven four nine seven eight hundred the

1789
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 3: big one. Uh do you talk to your pets? It's

1790
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 3: just a very strange issue, and I want to I

1791
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 3: had a couple of people remark to me on social

1792
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 3: about my comments about the monks. I respect the monks.

1793
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 3: I have an admiration for the monks. I wasn't attacking

1794
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 3: the walking monks. I was just simply saying, Unfortunately, I

1795
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 3: don't believe that the attention drawn and the harm that

1796
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 3: came the way of the one guy who lost one

1797
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 3: of his legs in part because someone went around the

1798
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 3: safety vehicle, which is a problem for anyone on the

1799
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 3: side of the interstate, let alone working on the highway

1800
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 3: like for O Dot or something like that. That's how

1801
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:20,879
Speaker 3: that accident happened with him. I just don't respectfully believe

1802
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 3: that those who are in the business of executing wars

1803
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 3: are going, you know, those monks in the States walking

1804
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 3: you know, from Texas to DC like two thousand miles

1805
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 3: or whatever it is. We should put our arms down

1806
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 3: and stop the bombing. I just don't think that that's

1807
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,799
Speaker 3: the you know, the benefit that comes from it. Everyone

1808
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 3: else being thoughtful of them and respecting them is what

1809
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:46,679
Speaker 3: comes of that.

1810
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 2: That's all I meant by that.

1811
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 1: No, and I know I know we're not again, No,

1812
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 1: of course not.

1813
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:56,719
Speaker 2: But that's a whole other story.

1814
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 4: No, but you know, when I teach YOUO guy, I

1815
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 4: always talk about if Earth piece through self peace, So

1816
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 4: if you can even if and we're maybe they're not

1817
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 4: trying to get to the highest powers who create wars

1818
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 4: and things like that, but each individual, like if I

1819
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 4: think what happens is when we demand certain things from

1820
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 4: our politicians, even though it's kind of been ignored a

1821
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 4: little bit that but if we are become peaceful within ourselves,

1822
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 4: it kind of spreads.

1823
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:28,640
Speaker 1: That's where they're looking to.

1824
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 4: So if they can touch one person and another person

1825
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:33,760
Speaker 4: can be peaceful in their community and their home and

1826
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:36,879
Speaker 4: their environment, then it just kind of spreads.

1827
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

1828
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 3: Eleven third reports coming up sooner than later and updated

1829
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 3: on what's going on all over the place, whether it's

1830
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:46,679
Speaker 3: what's gone down in Minneapolis to Portland, Oregon, to issues

1831
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 3: here that are sort of bewildering too. Talking about the

1832
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 3: allegation of perhaps maybe a settlement being worked on in

1833
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 3: some fashion for the hinting shooting situation with the fleeing

1834
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 3: suspect and that car heist, and then of course his

1835
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 3: father's ran down Deputy sheriff on detail work after that,

1836
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 3: clearly in retaliation. So all those news stories and other

1837
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 3: stuff going on straight away. We're back together again on

1838
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 3: Sunday afternoon too, right.

1839
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 1: Yes, we are twelve to three big big games on Sunday.

1840
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 3: Tak a lot of NFL football this weekend playoffs sans Bengals,

1841
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 3: but Duke Tobin's going to be speaking publicly about the

1842
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 3: Bengals and their plans, and he does not speak to

1843
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 3: the public very often, so we'll dive into that after

1844
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 3: you're eleven third of your port and a whole lot

1845
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 3: more to do, having some fun for sloaning on a

1846
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 3: Friday at Sterling and Donnade on seven hundred WLW.

1847
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 2: Scott Sloan Show for a Friday. He's not here.

1848
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 3: It's ut me Sterling and Austin Omar. People like to

1849
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:47,560
Speaker 3: call him Audi hearing the team hearing about since he

1850
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 3: three sixty with Tony Pike and everything else.

1851
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 2: Man, how are you? I'm great, Sterling?

1852
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 1: How are you?

1853
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:54,759
Speaker 2: In a while since we've talked on the air.

1854
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:56,640
Speaker 3: It has been I see you all the time, it

1855
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 3: seems like, but don't get a chance to do this

1856
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 3: with you. So I appreciate you coming in. I know

1857
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 3: you got other stuff going. I don't know that the

1858
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 3: earth has spun off its axis at this point, there

1859
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 3: is a scheduled appearance Duke Tobin. I realize publicly he

1860
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily say a lot to us regular people. How

1861
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 3: big of a deal is this? What does this really mean?

1862
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 3: Is there going to be a change in Bengals planning

1863
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 3: or is this what we're riding with until the end.

1864
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 14: I don't know that this is an earth shattering thing.

1865
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 14: I think it's being a little bit overhyped. Some have

1866
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 14: described this to me privately as like, this is the

1867
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 14: equivalent of a playoff game for Bengals fans. They didn't

1868
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 14: make the playoffs this year, so at least we get

1869
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 14: to finally hear from Duke Tobin.

1870
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 2: Wowkay, Duke rarely speaks.

1871
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 14: He speaks at the combine, he speaks before the season,

1872
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 14: and that's pretty much it. And there is just a

1873
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 14: lack of transparency around him and his position, and it's

1874
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 14: been that way for the last twenty years, since he's

1875
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:00,680
Speaker 14: been in this role more than twenty year, And so

1876
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 14: I think it is a good deviation from the established

1877
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 14: norm to have the general manager de facto general manager

1878
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 14: talk after the season in which you failed again and

1879
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:17,520
Speaker 14: a season in which he was mentioned in the postseason

1880
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 14: statement by Mike Brown, and a season in which he

1881
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 14: was under more criticism than he's ever been at any

1882
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 14: point in his career.

1883
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that makes sense now. A lot of

1884
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 3: people that I've talked to, even though Joe's toe is heeled,

1885
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:34,639
Speaker 3: Joe came back, he seemed healthy, got it together, they

1886
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 3: got strung together some wins. We saw a little bit

1887
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 3: more of what we expected this Bengals team to be.

1888
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 3: We know the depth of the arsenal and weaponry on

1889
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 3: the offense. The defense seemed to grow a little bit. However,

1890
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 3: expectations and the idea well another season without a post

1891
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 3: the playoff of appearance, there were extenuating circumstances. People go,

1892
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 3: what about Zach Taylor? Why is he still here? Burrows

1893
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 3: a fan? Is that the only reason he's here? I

1894
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 3: think I don't know if it's the only reason. I

1895
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 3: think it's a big reason. I think that means a lot.

1896
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 3: And Joe, in his opinion, carries weight to the Bengals,

1897
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 3: and I think it should absolutely. I don't know that

1898
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 3: they should do everything that he says that I think

1899
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 3: is a slippery slope. And Burrow has acknowledged that he's like,

1900
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to be the GM. I don't want

1901
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 3: to be the guy scouting like. I'll share my opinion,

1902
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I think, but I don't know

1903
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 3: that I should be the chief decision maker.

1904
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:27,719
Speaker 2: And I think that's fair.

1905
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 14: But I think it's It means a lot to the

1906
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:36,640
Speaker 14: organization to have a coach who is liked and respected

1907
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 14: by his quarterback, and offensively, when you look at the

1908
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,760
Speaker 14: foundation that they have, which is they're going to have

1909
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 14: ten of their starters coming back on offense already, guys

1910
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:49,680
Speaker 14: that are already under contract, and you would expect them

1911
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:51,640
Speaker 14: to be able to get that other position, a right

1912
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 14: guard position, done relatively quickly and build some of the depth.

1913
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 14: And Zach is an offensive minded coach, and the offense

1914
01:34:57,920 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 14: really hasn't been the problem for the better part of

1915
01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:02,639
Speaker 14: the the last three or four years. It's been injuries

1916
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:05,759
Speaker 14: and defense, and I think it's fair not to blame

1917
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 14: Zach for all the issues. Now, z that can be better.

1918
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 14: I think procedurally he can be a lot better. I

1919
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,759
Speaker 14: think he should consider giving up the play calling and

1920
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 14: being more of a CEO style head coach on game days.

1921
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 14: But he still has two years left on his contract,

1922
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 14: and whether you like it or not, the Bengals typically

1923
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 14: don't pay coaches not to coach for them, and so

1924
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:29,679
Speaker 14: I think with Zach having two years left on his deal,

1925
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:32,639
Speaker 14: most of his assistants having one year left on a deal.

1926
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 14: With the inclusion of Duke and Zach in the statement

1927
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 14: by Mike Brown, I think it kind of says this

1928
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 14: upcoming season is make it or break it.

1929
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 3: Speaking of others on staff still with contractual obligations and

1930
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 3: expected to stay where it is. Of course, Dan Pitcher

1931
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 3: and is interviewing elsewhere for a head coaching job. What

1932
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 3: does that say about where the Bengals stand and who's

1933
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 3: next up if he in fact bounces elsewhere.

1934
01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think it is confirmation of the idea that

1935
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 14: Zach Taylor and his offense and the way that they

1936
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:08,360
Speaker 14: developed players on offense specifically works and is respected by

1937
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:11,759
Speaker 14: other teams across the league. Now Dan Pitcher is interviewing

1938
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 14: with the Cleveland Browns, there's a connection there. Dan came

1939
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 14: up with the Indianapolis Colts, Andrew Berry was with the

1940
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 14: Indianapolis Colts. He's now the GM of the Browns. That's

1941
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 14: a very strong candidate. I would not like it if

1942
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 14: Dan Pitcher goes to the Cleveland Browns, just because I

1943
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 14: think he's a really good football coach. I think he

1944
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 14: has a very clear intimate understanding of the AFC North

1945
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 14: and would clearly understand the Bengals. I don't think that

1946
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 14: would be a good thing for them. I want Dan

1947
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 14: to succeed. I would like it to be anywhere but

1948
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 14: the Cleveland Browns, to be completely honest. But if he

1949
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 14: were to go, there are a couple of guys, Number one,

1950
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:49,520
Speaker 14: Brad Cragthorpe and Justin Roscotti. Those are past game coordinator

1951
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 14: and quarterbacks coach or vice versa. Those two are our

1952
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:57,679
Speaker 14: up and coming stars in the coaching realm. They've been here.

1953
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 14: Brad Cragthorpe's been here for a long time. Was actually

1954
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 14: with Joe Burrow for a year at LSU, and so

1955
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:05,759
Speaker 14: there's a lot of connection there. And then Justin Roscotti

1956
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 14: came over last year from Minnesota. He's got some experience

1957
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 14: in Kevin O'Connell's offense and helped kind of unlock that

1958
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 14: next level of Jamar Chase. I think those two would

1959
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:17,639
Speaker 14: be the possible connection of offensive coordinator, and the other

1960
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:20,879
Speaker 14: one would be Brian Callahan, who was the offensive coordinator

1961
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:22,559
Speaker 14: here of course when they went to the Super Bowl

1962
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 14: and was just fired as the Tennessee Titans head coach.

1963
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 3: Talking to Austin Elmore if you didn't already know ESPN

1964
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 3: or since the three sixty he's got with Tony pikel

1965
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 3: later on, that's what he does.

1966
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 2: It mean.

1967
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:34,480
Speaker 3: It's great to hear any talking to you. This is just fantastic.

1968
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 3: I'm enjoying it. There's a couple things here. Firstly, it

1969
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 3: is a complication of success and surrounding yourself with good talent.

1970
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 3: When you see that talent bubbling up and being looked

1971
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 3: at with opportunities outside, you kind of want that, but

1972
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 3: you would like to be able to think that you

1973
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 3: can keep it together here with a window. And people

1974
01:37:57,240 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 3: have used the term open window for so long too much,

1975
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 3: but that window is shrinking for this Trangles team and

1976
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 3: trying to get to the playoffs and hopefully making runs

1977
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 3: regular runs there with you know, Joe Burrow in the

1978
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:13,720
Speaker 3: age he's currently in Austin. What I'm wondering is this,

1979
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 3: if they lose someone of that caliber and that level,

1980
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:20,360
Speaker 3: are they able to come in here and keep this

1981
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 3: thing going. Is he a marginal enough player down the

1982
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:25,839
Speaker 3: food chain, if you will, as a coordinator of offense

1983
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 3: to where that hit can be taken and they don't

1984
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 3: stumble too much.

1985
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 2: Yes.

1986
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 14: And to be clear, my concern is not with what

1987
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 14: happens to the Bengals, it's what with the Browns. Could

1988
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 14: happen to the Browns getting better?

1989
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1990
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 14: And I think because of the culture, because of the

1991
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 14: fact that all those players are coming back, because it's

1992
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:44,720
Speaker 14: still Zach Taylor, who is the headman in charge of

1993
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:47,479
Speaker 14: the offense, and you've got all that familiarity and all

1994
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 14: that continuity offensively specific, I don't think it would be

1995
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:55,760
Speaker 14: a significant change. I don't know that they'd be better

1996
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 14: right away. There would be some learning of new styles

1997
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:01,639
Speaker 14: and new communication and all different stuff, but I don't

1998
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:05,679
Speaker 14: think the drop off would be ridiculous for the Bengals offense.

1999
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 3: You know what's interesting to me and I've talked to

2000
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 3: I mean, have some former players, you know, other people

2001
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 3: like you who live and breathe this talking Bengals and

2002
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 3: sports on a daily basis where I live it and

2003
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:21,760
Speaker 3: it's my escape as a fan, not my lifestyle livelihood.

2004
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 3: In this situation, when you look at what they've done

2005
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 3: on the defense and that we did see them get

2006
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:30,719
Speaker 3: better and there were injuries that they had to navigate,

2007
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 3: what's interesting in somewhat bewildering and troubling and probably for

2008
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:36,880
Speaker 3: anyone doing the business that they do, whether it's the

2009
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 3: Bengals or pick an organization. You have draft pick after

2010
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:43,679
Speaker 3: draft pick after draft pick, high end draft picks well

2011
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 3: thought of that either have not developed fast as one

2012
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 3: would have thought, or were not the talents that they

2013
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:51,720
Speaker 3: had thought is it's played out. How much of it

2014
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:54,719
Speaker 3: is bad choices, how much of his failure to develop

2015
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 3: to get where they are with the team that they

2016
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:57,759
Speaker 3: put together.

2017
01:39:57,960 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 14: That's a great question, and I think it's part of

2018
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 14: the re why Duke Tobin is talking today is because

2019
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 14: he's the guy who's making those selections and it just

2020
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 14: has taken too long for those guys to pan out.

2021
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:11,599
Speaker 14: And you know, last year they kind of used bad

2022
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 14: luck and bad coaching as an excuse, so they got

2023
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 14: rid of lou An Arumo, and you know, in a

2024
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 14: way they were proven right with the way that they

2025
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 14: also fired their defensive line coach and their linebacker coach,

2026
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 14: And in a way they were proven right because all

2027
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 14: of a sudden, the light bulb comes on for Miles Murphy,

2028
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 14: the light bulb comes on for DJ Turner, like there

2029
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 14: actually started to be some development for the young players

2030
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 14: and the defense. The issue is, and going back to

2031
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:39,679
Speaker 14: the window that you mentioned, is you don't have time

2032
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 14: to wait for guys three years into the NFL to

2033
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:44,760
Speaker 14: start having the light bulb come on. You need them

2034
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 14: to come in and contribute right away. And on top

2035
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 14: of that, when you haven't supplemented your roster adequately enough

2036
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 14: with veteran free agents to help the development of those

2037
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:59,639
Speaker 14: young players. It does fall on coaching and the people

2038
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 14: in charge of the personnel, and that would be Duke Tobin.

2039
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 14: So it's not a sexy answer. I'm sitting on the

2040
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 14: fence here, but I do feel like it's a fifty

2041
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 14: to fifty split. You know, the coaches in the front office,

2042
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 14: it doesn't feel like there has been alignment. And I

2043
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:16,320
Speaker 14: think that's part of the reason why Luanna Rumo was fired,

2044
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 14: an alignment between him and the way he wants to

2045
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 14: do things and the way the front office wants to

2046
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 14: do things. Now, defensively, they were still really bad, but

2047
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:27,439
Speaker 14: they changed. They got rid of Mike Hilton, they got

2048
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:29,759
Speaker 14: rid of Von Bell, they got rid of Sam Hubbard.

2049
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 14: They moved on from a bunch of veterans that hogged

2050
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 14: up a bunch of snaps, and they just threw the

2051
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:37,920
Speaker 14: young guys out there and they stunk, and so it backfired.

2052
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:40,880
Speaker 14: And so now, and you mentioned it after the bye week,

2053
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 14: they didn't play the best competition, but they did show

2054
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 14: marginal signs of improvement. Can that be a continuous thing

2055
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:52,720
Speaker 14: into this offseason and can Duke Tobin do the right

2056
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 14: things to surround those young players with the right veteran

2057
01:41:56,040 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 14: talent so that you can expedite that process a lot quicker.

2058
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 3: Talking to Austin Elmore, he and Tony Pike. Of course,

2059
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 3: Sincy three to sixty sterling in for Scott Sloan's seven

2060
01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:09,720
Speaker 3: hundred WLW. So I guess the question is this, we

2061
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 3: have seen the Bengals make splashes on occasion, going out

2062
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 3: and getting a talent that's not too far over the hill,

2063
01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 3: or coming in where somebody else couldn't afford him anymore,

2064
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:23,680
Speaker 3: their plans changed or whatever. How many pieces do the

2065
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:27,720
Speaker 3: Bengals need do you think on defense to supplement what

2066
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,800
Speaker 3: they've already shown with development to get where they need

2067
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 3: to be to where we're not talking a year from now,

2068
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:37,840
Speaker 3: a better about another team that, if everyone stays healthy,

2069
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:40,439
Speaker 3: maybe still ends up on the outside looking in of

2070
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 3: what looks to be an incredible weekend to playoff football

2071
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:49,800
Speaker 3: Bears and Packers, Panthers, Rams, Jags, Bills, Eagles, forty nine Ers, Patriots, Chargers, Steelers,

2072
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 3: who the Steelers always seem to find a way even

2073
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 3: with the two hundred and fifty year old quarterback.

2074
01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:56,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2075
01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:58,680
Speaker 14: I mean, they haven't won a playoff game in like

2076
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 14: ten years. Though there is some solace. I take some

2077
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 14: solace in that they get there. Mike Tomlin has turned

2078
01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 14: into Marvin Lewis, But yeah, it did, it did? I

2079
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 14: think I think they need probably four maybe five guys totally,

2080
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 14: and that can be rookies that you get in the draft,

2081
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 14: and it can be veterans. I think they need probably

2082
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 14: at least two defensive linemen, one on the interior, one

2083
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 14: on the edge. I think they need another linebacker because

2084
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:31,800
Speaker 14: I can't stomach watching those linebackers play again. I think

2085
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 14: you're gonna need a safety. I think you're gonna need

2086
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:37,519
Speaker 14: a replacement corner for Cam Taylor Britt. So you're at

2087
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 14: at least four, maybe five. You could get up to six.

2088
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:43,720
Speaker 14: And they have seventy million dollars to spend. And so

2089
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 14: a lot of people like to dump on the Bengals

2090
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 14: for the way they do contracts and they call them

2091
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 14: cheap and blah blah blah blah blah. Well, one of

2092
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:54,680
Speaker 14: the biggest misnomers out there about the Bengals is that

2093
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 14: they can no longer afford players because they paid Burrow

2094
01:43:57,240 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 14: Chase and Higgins. That's not true. They have plenty of

2095
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 14: cap space this year. They have plenty of cap space

2096
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:05,240
Speaker 14: next year and the year after that. Number one, because

2097
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 14: they haven't extended some of those young guys because of

2098
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:09,680
Speaker 14: the questions we've talked about. For sure, the cap will

2099
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:12,240
Speaker 14: continue to go up unless there's another global pandemic, and

2100
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 14: who the hell knows it might, but the cap will

2101
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 14: continue to go up. The Bengals do have the ability

2102
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 14: to restructure those contracts to free that up. Like they've

2103
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:23,840
Speaker 14: set themselves up really nicely to keep the window open,

2104
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:27,600
Speaker 14: which means there are no excuses for the offseason. Like

2105
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 14: last year they used bad luck and bad coaching and

2106
01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 14: they got one or two veteran guys t J.

2107
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:33,639
Speaker 2: Slaton, Orn Burke's didn't work.

2108
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 14: Can't do that again this year because you need guys

2109
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 14: on that defense, and you have the money to be

2110
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:40,880
Speaker 14: able to spend, and you have a top ten pick

2111
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:41,840
Speaker 14: in every single round.

2112
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:44,920
Speaker 3: That's pretty good, right, Yeah, I mean it's not a

2113
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 3: bad situation. What do you think they'll do?

2114
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 2: Do you?

2115
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:50,720
Speaker 3: I mean, do you personally? Because I know how you are.

2116
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:52,920
Speaker 3: You and Tony are sitting there looking, well, if we

2117
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:54,559
Speaker 3: could get that guy we can pull that guy from

2118
01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:56,519
Speaker 3: over there and this guy, So like, who do you

2119
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:59,240
Speaker 3: see who's available? We're a move or you know, it

2120
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:01,479
Speaker 3: wouldn't be too surprising where you could say, okay with

2121
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:02,719
Speaker 3: this makes sense for the Bengal.

2122
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a good question.

2123
01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 14: I don't know if I've allowed myself to get there

2124
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 14: entirely yet, but there are, you know, pass rushers out

2125
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 14: there that I feel like they might have to maybe

2126
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:16,400
Speaker 14: get a little creative. If you think back to the

2127
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:19,439
Speaker 14: twenty one offseason, they signed Trey Hendrickson to a four year,

2128
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:20,679
Speaker 14: sixty million dollar deal.

2129
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 2: He was kind of an.

2130
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 14: Unproven player, but a guy who had been kind of productive.

2131
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:27,439
Speaker 14: Can you find a low level guy like that that

2132
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 14: you are still molding into being a really good pass

2133
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 14: rusher that's going to be opposite of Miles Murphy? Can

2134
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 14: you find one of those guys in the draft as well?

2135
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:39,160
Speaker 14: And I think the interior of their defensive line and

2136
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:41,800
Speaker 14: getting pass rush out of that position, I think we'll

2137
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:44,519
Speaker 14: see Schamar Stewart in there a little bit more. That's

2138
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 14: gonna be one of the outside the box things that

2139
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:48,679
Speaker 14: they do. I think they could draft one right away

2140
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:52,400
Speaker 14: because there's not a deep class of those interior pass rushers.

2141
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 14: Peter Woods is a guy from Clemson who's there that

2142
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 14: you feel I could come in right away and provide

2143
01:45:57,320 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 14: that type of impact and also help b J. Hill

2144
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 14: to be a more impactful player. The name a lot

2145
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 14: of people want to talk about is Caleb Downs, the

2146
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 14: safety out of Ohio State. And I don't blame you,

2147
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:08,760
Speaker 14: because if you've watched Gino Stone play over the last

2148
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 14: few years, he is legitimately one of the worst players

2149
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:15,040
Speaker 14: who's ever played for the Cincinnati Bengals. That position has

2150
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:17,559
Speaker 14: to get better, and that says a lot. They've been

2151
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:20,599
Speaker 14: around for sixty years and they've had some bad dudes.

2152
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 14: Geno Stone is among the worst who's ever played for

2153
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 14: this organization.

2154
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:26,960
Speaker 2: That has to get fixed.

2155
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 3: You know what's funny to me after all these years,

2156
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:31,000
Speaker 3: and I remember even doing it as a kid, and

2157
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 3: it was not as involved as it is now. Right,

2158
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:36,720
Speaker 3: It is a strange thing for me, and maybe it's

2159
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 3: just the way I was brought up to still regularly

2160
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 3: talk about guys. That guy should be fired and he's

2161
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:45,960
Speaker 3: making too much, and that guy's not making it or

2162
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:47,680
Speaker 3: not they need to call up some cash for him.

2163
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 3: There is no other business hardly at all where we

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Speaker 3: talk about people's livelihoods and their families being uprooted.

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Speaker 2: He's no good. He's a bumb and you're like, he

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Speaker 2: was great a year ago.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, And there's always there's always circumstances like behind the

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Speaker 14: you know, the curtain that that affect all that. Like

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Speaker 14: Nick Scott's a perfect example. He's a part of the

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Speaker 14: playoff team in Carolina. Yeah, he was a safety here

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Speaker 14: that didn't work out. Come to find out. They asked

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Speaker 14: him to switch positions, they asked him to do stuff

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Speaker 14: he'd never done before. It just didn't make sense, like,

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Speaker 14: and it didn't work for him when they brought him in,

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Speaker 14: and so now they're trying to replace him and they

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Speaker 14: get a guy like Jordan Battle and blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 14: Just it's a never ending cycle of that. And that's

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Speaker 14: the nature of life though too. Yeah, that's the beauty

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Speaker 14: of the sport.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 14: No, it's life in general, and life in the National

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Speaker 14: Football League especially.

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Speaker 3: It's just an odd thing because all of us do

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01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:41,200
Speaker 3: this and it's been that way for a long time.

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Speaker 3: Even my neighbors kids come over and they're telling me

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Speaker 3: about budgets, and I'm.

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Speaker 1: Like, you're twelve. What are you doing?

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Speaker 14: It's just a I do too, I really do. But

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Speaker 14: fantasy football and Madden and all these things. Yes, there's

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01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 14: so much information out it really is.

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Speaker 3: What have I not asked that's in your head right

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Speaker 3: now that you and Tony and everybody else have been

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01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 3: thinking about? You know, as Duke Tobin gets ready to

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Speaker 3: step up and talk to the public here, I think

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Speaker 3: it's one o'clock this afternoon. Anything else bouncing around? What

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Speaker 3: did I not ask? What else is relevant? Are you

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Speaker 3: already thinking about the Reds? No, I'm trying not to

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Speaker 3: think about the Reds. Really, yeah, I'm this is this

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Speaker 3: is not a good thing to admit, but I am

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Speaker 3: absolutely dreading this Red season.

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Speaker 1: What is wrong with you?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 14: You watched most of those games. You did a lot

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Speaker 14: of the pregame shows, that's true. I did a lot

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01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 14: of the postgame shows. That's true too. That was a

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01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:40,759
Speaker 14: miserable team to watch. They couldn't score, they didn't steal bases,

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01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 14: they can't hit. Yeah, how did they not manufacture runs?

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Speaker 14: They're in that situation and what have they done? They're

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Speaker 14: going to bring back the exact same team so we

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01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 14: got one hundred and sixty two games and not being

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01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:53,960
Speaker 14: able to score all over again. And I'm just I'm

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Speaker 14: not I'm not there yet. I will be come Opening Day.

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Speaker 14: I'll be fired up.

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Speaker 3: Reds Fest is like a week away, two weeks away.

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Speaker 3: Whatever it is, struggling, I'm struggling. I gotta find it.

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Speaker 3: I can feel it, like right now. I know the

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Speaker 3: temperatures are dropping through the day, but it kind of

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Speaker 3: feels like baseball the weather. I kind of I'm already

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Speaker 3: thinking about it.

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Speaker 14: Duke Tobin could answer the question of why the Reds

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Speaker 14: didn't go get a big off season bat.

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Speaker 2: That would be a good question.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be great if you would just fire back

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Speaker 3: with that and just completely.

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Speaker 2: That'd be tremendous. Man. I just you know what is frustrating.

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Speaker 3: And I tell people this is Bengals fans, And there

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01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:30,559
Speaker 3: were a lot of people who's they they got good

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01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:33,559
Speaker 3: when Burrow came and were there and got close and

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Speaker 3: got to the Super Bowl and didn't quite get it done.

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Speaker 3: And I mentioned the better living through lowered expectations. My

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01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:42,599
Speaker 3: whole career as a human has been living and dying

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01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 3: with this Bengals football team and coming down with my

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01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 3: uncle Manny to Old river Front and seeing and then

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Speaker 3: you know what was PBS. Uh, you know, and then

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01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:53,679
Speaker 3: now pay corps and you kind of got there.

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Speaker 2: You gotta be better.

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Speaker 3: There's got to be more consistent and uh, just as

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Speaker 3: they start to get close, I just want to be

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Speaker 3: leave that it will be a stretch where they are

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Speaker 3: consistently good and it is not just an excuse ridden

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Speaker 3: time after.

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Speaker 14: I keep telling myself that one of these days it

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Speaker 14: will all be worth it. The Bengals winning the Super

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Speaker 14: Bowl are one of the great sports stories yet to

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Speaker 14: be told. I remind myself of the Chicago Cubs they

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Speaker 14: won it in twenty sixteen. Yeah, if the Cubs can

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Speaker 14: win the World Series, the Bengals can win the Super Bowl.

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01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 14: I like the way you think that's well, you just

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Speaker 14: do it, like before my dad dies. That's how That's

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Speaker 14: how I think about it now. It's like, if my

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Speaker 14: dad's like sixty, can we just get this done before

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Speaker 14: he goes?

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Speaker 2: For all these Dad, that's tremendous. Why not for no

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Speaker 2: other reason?

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Speaker 3: If not that Austin Elmore with Tony Pike Sincy three sixty,

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Speaker 3: ESPN three sixty or fifteen thirty. That's where you are,

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Speaker 3: and Sloaney's back Monday. I'm not on to I don't

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Speaker 3: know who's doing me and will see how it goes.

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Speaker 3: It's all top I don't know me, I don't know

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Speaker 3: who's doing me. That's the way that goes. We'll find

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Speaker 3: out later on. Dan Carroll's next and I'll be back

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Speaker 3: a Sunday with Donna d right here in the home

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Speaker 3: of the best Bengals coverage and the Red seven hundred

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Speaker 3: WLW Cincinnati