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Speaker 1: Tech Friday with Dave Hatter every Friday at six thirty.

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Speaker 1: Of course we're doing that today. Corey Bowman and Signal

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Speaker 1: erre let's talk about Tech frid real quick. Why Striker's

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Speaker 1: we'll find out about that together. Tennessee grandmother in jail

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Speaker 1: And then after Corey Bubman and signal ninety nine and

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Speaker 1: Seniors that at eight oh five, and of course it's Friday,

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Speaker 1: Jack Windsor, editor in chief of the Ohio Press Network.

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Speaker 1: Amy Acton's lawyer says all her proclamations during COVID were satire. No,

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Speaker 1: we're just joking around. No drinking after ten o'clock. You

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Speaker 2: Happy Friday to you, Brian, Thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: Happy.

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Speaker 2: Let's all pray for a better opening day tomorrow's tomorrow's

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Speaker 1: Amen to that. Yes, sir, that's what you're just asking for.

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Speaker 2: Hoping yesterdays melee. Multiple multiple incidents at the banks. God,

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Speaker 1: Amen, well, how CPD Hamion County Sheriff's deavuty is in

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Speaker 1: and breaking alcoholic beverages on the floor. Maybe those are

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Speaker 1: the ones he was incapable during his attempt to drink.

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Speaker 1: He dropped them anyway. Had been charged with robbery, theft,

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Speaker 1: criminal mischief, public intoxication, intoxication, and public indecency the Aristocrat

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Speaker 1: and let's pivot over to Ubi City, California, where the

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Speaker 1: Ubis City Police Department released the video sequencing the events

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Speaker 1: of February twenty six local guy naked wielding a shovel

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Speaker 1: ultimately shot two times by police officers in what is

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Speaker 1: described as a graphic video showing the entire incident. Suspect

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Speaker 1: thirty one year old Guillermo Figura close enough ultimately shot,

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Speaker 1: still in a Sacramento area hospital in critical, however stable condition.

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Speaker 1: Police Chief Jim Runyon to announcing the release of the video.

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Speaker 1: They have to release the video within thirty days of

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Speaker 1: the date under state law. Initial portion of the video

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Speaker 1: taken from a ring camera of a nine to one

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Speaker 1: to one collar. Several calls received starting about quarter after

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Speaker 1: nine in the morning about a Hispanic male who was naked,

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Speaker 1: acting erratic and running down the street in the two

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Speaker 1: thousand block of Wild River Drive. I'm calling to report

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Speaker 1: someone acting erratically on Wild River by the dog. Part

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Speaker 1: he's fully and causing a disturbance that one nine one

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Speaker 1: caller could be heard reporting his neighbor just broke through

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Speaker 1: the caller's front door, shattering a window, all captured on video.

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Speaker 1: What amen. Figora also shown leaping over a car in

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Speaker 1: the video before throwing himself at a front door where

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Speaker 1: a ring camera was located. So we got that video too,

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Speaker 1: Chief running to the two officers would dispatching the scene

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Speaker 1: after a short foot pursuit with a suspect initially appeared

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Speaker 1: to be surrendering in a front yard nearby. When officers

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Speaker 1: approached the suspect quote, he became combative and used use

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Speaker 1: of force occurred close quote and the video officers showed

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Speaker 1: that Figura had a Figura on his stomach on the ground,

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Speaker 1: put one handcuff on and when they tried to put

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Speaker 1: the other one on, he turned over and began struggling

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Speaker 1: officers yelling stop. He got up approached the officers, while

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Speaker 1: one officer could be seen trying to hold him back

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Speaker 1: with his arm. Was at that point, officers deployed tasers

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Speaker 1: and batons, neither effective and even though Figuera fell through,

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Speaker 1: the ground as officers yelled stop resisting and roll over.

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Speaker 1: He got back up again and started swinging a shovel

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Speaker 1: at the officers. Chief runian once in the back of

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Speaker 1: the yard. The suspect armed himself with a shovel and

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Speaker 1: swung it at the officers multiple times. As a result,

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Speaker 1: an officer shooting occurred, and at that point, after the

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Speaker 1: officer shooting occurred, figure fell to the ground. After the

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Speaker 1: suspect was shot, he continued fighting with the officer, said

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Speaker 1: the chief, and was eventually taken into custody. In spite

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Speaker 1: of the fact he was shot twice in the torso

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Speaker 1: not apparent wear on his body. He was shot at

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Speaker 1: least in the footage he is in the hospital, though

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear he got shot. Officers in

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Speaker 1: the video are reported as saying, do not move. You

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Speaker 1: understand you're going to get shot again. The guerrero first

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Speaker 1: put his hands behind his back and then rolled over

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Speaker 1: and started getting up again, and after a struggle, he

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Speaker 1: was fully handcuffed and was rendered medical assistance, including CPR

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Speaker 1: by officers. Incident remains under investigation. Both officers put put

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Speaker 1: on administrative leave, as is typically the case. Rudge a man,

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Speaker 1: Joe Streker five forty five, fifty five KRC, thestalk station,

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Speaker 1: the TX station, more of those coming up, or your

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Speaker 1: phone calls right back.

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Speaker 3: This is fifty five KRC.

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Speaker 1: And I up station five point fifty to fifty five

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Speaker 1: kre CG talk station tech part of me. Dave had

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Speaker 1: or coming up at six thirty Corey Bowman and signal

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Speaker 1: ninety nine on the phone for an hour. I guess

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk to him about the craziness on

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Speaker 1: opening day yesterday, A lot of violent and unruly youths

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Speaker 1: ruling the celebration for everybody else, Thanks very much, hard

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Speaker 1: for seniors. Patty's going to be back talking about Katherine

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Speaker 1: induced UTIs in eight to five and a late cancelation.

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Speaker 1: Jack Wins is not going to be joining us today.

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Speaker 1: Apparently he's got a family matter. He called in Joe

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Speaker 1: this morning and said, I can't make it, so sadly

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Speaker 1: that's the case. That just frees some time up for

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Speaker 1: you to give me a call in the eight o'clock

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Speaker 1: or even right now. Five point three seven four nine

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Speaker 1: fifty five hundred, eight hundred eighty two to three. Thok okay,

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Speaker 1: back to the stack of stupid we go to Portland, Oregon.

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Speaker 1: A man with a history of public indecency has been

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Speaker 1: arrested again. Oregon State Police responded to the report of

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Speaker 1: a man quote pleasuring himself close quote while driving on

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Speaker 1: I five near the Woodburn exit. Why are you doing that?

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Speaker 1: Let's find out it's distracted driving, Joe. Ok, well, I

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Speaker 1: won't even ask anyway. The woman who reported the incident

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Speaker 1: said she saw him drive. She drove past, seeing the

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Speaker 1: man holding a tablet displaying what she described as a

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Speaker 1: naked woman. What she told the trooper the driver, now

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Speaker 1: identified as fifty six year old Charles McDonald, known to

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Speaker 1: the police Charles McDonald porter, He started driving alongside her

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Speaker 1: because she went past him. So he pulls up the sider.

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Speaker 1: He rolled down his window and then openly pleasured himself.

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Speaker 5: What is that?

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Speaker 1: Wilful and wanton pleasuring? Joe? Yeah? Yeah, you think he

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Speaker 1: plays hockey? Anyway, she said, I tried to speed up

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Speaker 1: and get away as he sped up with me. I

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Speaker 1: tried to slow down. He slowed down with me, and

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Speaker 1: I was like trapped in the left lane of the

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Speaker 1: freeway I didn't have anywhere to go until he was done.

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Speaker 1: What and then he exited the freeway. You think he

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Speaker 1: smoked a cigarette Joe after that. The man is a

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Speaker 1: history of indecent exposure. Anyway, he got pulled over. He

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Speaker 1: consented to a search of his tablet, and the trooper

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Speaker 1: found an image, of course, of a naked woman. Rained

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Speaker 1: March nineteenth on a charge of publican decency, posted bail

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Speaker 1: and other court hearing. Court hearing set for I guess

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Speaker 1: it was yesterday the woman who was disturbed by this

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Speaker 1: that it clearly is still affecting me. It's been pretty

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Speaker 1: hard phrasing, Like at first, I didn't think it was

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Speaker 1: going to affect me so much, like so much, to

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Speaker 1: the point that, like a lot of likes in this.

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Speaker 1: I made a joke about it, and then they called

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Speaker 1: my husband and as I was talking to him, it

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Speaker 1: really just started hitting me and I kind of just

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Speaker 1: went into shock. How hard is it? Well, well, no,

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Speaker 1: no charge upgraded to a felony because of his history

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Speaker 1: of doing the same damn thing over and over again.

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Speaker 1: Porter let's see confirmed Peter that the corrections folks confirmed

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Speaker 1: he was on probation for a May twenty ten to

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Speaker 1: May twenty twelve, Yes, for indecent exposure. Also, he has

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Speaker 1: an indecent exposure conviction in Texas in nineteen ninety nine

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Speaker 1: and two thousand, including one involving a child. AM, don't

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Speaker 1: do this. Austin, Texas where the Austin Police Department SWAT

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Speaker 1: team had to respond to a scene in Southeast Austin

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Speaker 1: earlier this week. Police department said at six forty am

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Speaker 1: SWAT team was on the scene on Santo Street responding

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Speaker 1: to a barricaded subject call. Corporal Jose Menendez speaking with

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Speaker 1: the news, So the incident began when police responded to

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Speaker 1: a hot shot call. I think that's like spot shot

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Speaker 1: or what does that call? That shooter? Hot shots, hotspotter,

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Speaker 1: same damn thing there. Anyway, they got a call in

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Speaker 1: for one of those about four thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Police spoke to the homeowner of the over the phone,

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Speaker 1: who said a naked guy broke into the house and

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Speaker 1: had a confrontation with the homeowner and that's when shots

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Speaker 1: rang out. Homeowner escaped the house unharmed around the time

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Speaker 1: police showed up. As Austin Police officers were talking to

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Speaker 1: the homeowner, Additional shots rang out at one point, the

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Speaker 1: man who broke it into the home naked fired a

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Speaker 1: weapon at the officers. That's when the SWAT team got called.

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Speaker 1: Didn't know who that person was. Police said the person

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Speaker 1: was taking into custody ultimately without incident after a four

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Speaker 1: hour stand off, taken to the Travis County Jail in

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Speaker 1: charges of aggravated assaulted with a police officer, with additional

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Speaker 1: charges pending. According to the police chief, they didn't identify

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Speaker 1: the guy, but fortunately in jail. Naked guy at breaking

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Speaker 1: into house. Finally got a report of a naked guy,

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Speaker 1: this one in South Carolina in a convenience store, according

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Speaker 1: to authorities. North Charleston Police Dispatch, quarter after four in

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Speaker 1: the afternoon, a caller reported a man naked in a

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Speaker 1: nearby in the nearby bushes at the Circle K convenience store.

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Speaker 1: Officers got there, the man was in public view with

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Speaker 1: no pants. Officer told him to put his pants on.

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Speaker 1: They were apparently laying right beside the guy. While collecting

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Speaker 1: the man's belongings, that's when the officers found a small

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Speaker 1: bag containing crystal like substance. Later field tested positive for

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Speaker 1: meth amphetamine. The man, thirty four year old Devon Octavius

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Speaker 1: Lawrence of North Charleston said, Yeah, that bag and one

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Speaker 1: of the IDs inside is in fact mine drugs. Are

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Speaker 1: charge of possession of meth then fetamine and indecent exposure

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Speaker 1: Taking to the AI Canon Detention Center. Five fifty six

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Speaker 1: fifty five kr CD talk station more to talk about

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Speaker 1: at the top of the our news Tech Friday with

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Speaker 1: Dave Hatter at six thirty. I'm sure hope you can

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Speaker 1: stick around for that. It's important to hear what Dave

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Speaker 1: has to say every Friday. I'll be right back from

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Speaker 1: over there.

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Speaker 7: To go after the worst of the worst to write.

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Speaker 1: It's six oh six to fifty five KRC the talk station.

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Speaker 1: Bryan Tim's right here wishing everyone a very very happy Friday.

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Speaker 1: Invitation to stick around all morning and call in. I

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Speaker 1: love hearing from fellow listeners of the Morning Show five

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Speaker 1: on three, seven four nine fifty five hundred and eight

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Speaker 1: hundred eight two three talk stick around for the bottom

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Speaker 1: of this hour six thirty every Friday with Dave Hatter

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Speaker 1: Tech Friday from Interest It. We're going to find out

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Speaker 1: why Striker's outage is a disaster recovery wake up Call Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Grandma in jail after artificial intelligence we facial recognition AIR

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Speaker 1: linked her to a fraud and Matta Ai sparking a

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Speaker 1: security incident by acting without permission, going alone Corey Bowman

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Speaker 1: and Signal ninety nine. I'll be on the phone today

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Speaker 1: from the seven o'clock hour at Cory Bowman. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Merrill candidate. We had an opportunity, and of course the

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Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati. One in four registered voters showed up,

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Speaker 1: and with the exception of a the California neighborhood, we

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Speaker 1: rest of the city between fifty and one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: went after have pro ball in the current council makeup.

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Speaker 1: Does that have any connection with the violence that unfolded

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Speaker 1: yesterday after Opening Day or during Opening Day? Probably Cory

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Speaker 1: Bowmen and Signal ninety nine on that. Of course, the

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Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati announced ahead of time that they would

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Speaker 1: not be enforcing the curfew. They didn't want to interfere

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Speaker 1: with the one hundred thousand or so folks coming downtown Cincinnati. Well,

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Speaker 1: what happened they had to interfere with the folks came

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Speaker 1: in downtown Cincinnati because an unruly crowd of are described

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Speaker 1: as teens, started fighting amongst themselves and creating a chaotic environment.

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Speaker 1: Disorder and violence is how interim police Chief Henny described it.

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Speaker 1: Disorder and violence on opening day since they police and

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Speaker 1: Swatch started clearing out the banks, interrupting the flow of

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Speaker 1: the curfew. Hey, SWAT team was there clearing out the banks,

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Speaker 1: telling people to get out of the banks area, that

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Speaker 1: Dori Dora area around where the bars are moved towards

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Speaker 1: the city. According to the announcements over the bullhorn, this

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Speaker 1: is your official warning. It's time to go home, someone

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Speaker 1: could be heard saying over a loudspeaker. Officers blocked the

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Speaker 1: the Yardhouse restaurant, telling people they could not cross and

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Speaker 1: should go around. And throughout the day, apparently police officers

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Speaker 1: were around to and from different downtown locations. According to

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Speaker 1: WCPO reporting, one instance, twenty juveniles were fighting in Washington

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Speaker 1: Park and another large group of people began running through

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Speaker 1: the banks in the middle of the Reds game. COURDA

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Speaker 1: Chief Henny, we had multiple calls of large crowds and

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Speaker 1: there was quite a bit of disorder and violence. As

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Speaker 1: officers were trying to dispatch into those areas, they met

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Speaker 1: a lot of resistance. Apparently the people in these melees

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Speaker 1: were using tasers on each other and pepper spray on

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Speaker 1: each other. FOP President Ken Kober was consulted about this. Interviewed,

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Speaker 1: calling he called the whole thing absolute chaos, quote just

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Speaker 1: mass hysteria, chaos which should have been a fantastic day,

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Speaker 1: beautiful weather in Cincinnati. You know, major League Baseball back

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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati is completely overshadowed by juveniles that are just

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Speaker 1: causing chaos. Police had to recall off duty SWATS, Civil

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Speaker 1: Disturbance Response Team members, anybody who was available please come

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Speaker 1: down and help manage the crowd. Chief and he said

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Speaker 1: multiple people were arrested. Couldn't provide an official number though

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Speaker 1: when it still number is still swirling question marks. He

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Speaker 1: said he believes the police use of force was minimal,

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Speaker 1: no officers were injured. Fortunately for that peece great Now

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Speaker 1: if the curfew had been enforced, would have applied. That's

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Speaker 1: a ten pm to two am curfew, So I think

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Speaker 1: that maybe a red herring floating around to this because

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Speaker 1: it sounds to me like most of this stuff happened

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Speaker 1: before ten pm, when, if it was in place, the

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Speaker 1: curfew might have been used to arrest people, although we

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Speaker 1: know very well that that doesn't really happen and nobody

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Speaker 1: has ever arrested for violating curfew. All right, now the

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Speaker 1: breaking news This morning, finally, the Senate decided with unanimous

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Speaker 1: cascent to fund the government, with a notable exception. They

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Speaker 1: left out funding for Immigrations and Customs enforcement and the

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Speaker 1: border patrol. This after negotiators failed a degree on reforms

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Speaker 1: that were demanded by the Democrats. Democrats didn't get their

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Speaker 1: ICE reforms and the Republicans did not fund ICE. So apparently,

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Speaker 1: I guess this is a we call this a draw.

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Speaker 1: Although Chucky Schumer was crowing about winning declaring victory, Democrats

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Speaker 1: held firm in our opposition at Donald Trump's rogue and

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Speaker 1: deadly militia. Should not get more funding without serious reforms,

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Speaker 1: and we will continue to fight for those reforms. So

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Speaker 1: that's still in a state of flux. ICE didn't get

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Speaker 1: additional funding, but it's still funded under the big beautiful bills.

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Speaker 1: So they're going to still do their job. As a

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Speaker 1: question of whether you're going to be funding them anymore,

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Speaker 1: but at least the TSA agents are now going to

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Speaker 1: get paid, staving off what was going to be a massive, massive,

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Speaker 1: what people thought walk out. In fact, one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons this thing advanced this morning. Now it's over in

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Speaker 1: the House and big question mark swirling over whether the

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Speaker 1: House is going to prove this resolution. But Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: threat to use an executive order to get the TSA

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Speaker 1: agents paid. He announced that yesterday taking emergency action to

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Speaker 1: pay TSA workers. Well, that apparently was one of the

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Speaker 1: impetuses behind this resolution. That and I'll let you decide

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Speaker 1: whether it was Trump's threat to use executive orders to

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Speaker 1: pay the TSA or it was the pending our upcoming

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Speaker 1: easter vacation where all of them go back home for

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks and relax and enjoy the time

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Speaker 1: with their families. Maybe an equal split. President said the

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Speaker 1: order that he was planning on files signing not an

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Speaker 1: easy thing to do, but he wanted to quickly stop

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Speaker 1: the democratic chaos at the airports. The announcement he would

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Speaker 1: use his execute authority to pay TSA workers effectively ended

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Speaker 1: the negotiations with Democrats to partially fund ICE, and of

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Speaker 1: course you know what the resolution is now, so everybody

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Speaker 1: gets their funding. ICE does not get any more TSA

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Speaker 1: agents will be paid. So the vast majority of the

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Speaker 1: federal government funding TSA, Coast Guard, Federal Emergency Management Agency,

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Speaker 1: and the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency SISA now funding by

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Speaker 1: unanimous consent. So keep your popcorn out. In so far

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Speaker 1: as Democrats demands for ICE reforms still say, you got

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Speaker 1: to pay attention to the fact that the Trump administration

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Speaker 1: is really backed off and offered to enshrine and loss

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Speaker 1: some of the reforms that Democrats were demanding. So who

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Speaker 1: got the victory on this one? Well, got any thoughts

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Speaker 1: or ideas, feel free to give me a call five one, three, seven, four,

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Speaker 1: nine fifty five, eight hundred and eighty two to three

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Speaker 1: talk found five fifty on AT and T phones. And

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Speaker 1: of course another extension of the deadline for the Iranians.

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Speaker 1: I person don't think the optics look really good on

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Speaker 1: it for the Trump administration on this, but what do

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Speaker 1: I know. It's impossible to tell what's actually going on.

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Speaker 1: There's still the big controversy and swirling question mark around.

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Speaker 1: Who in the hells ISMP talking to Within the Iranian regime.

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Speaker 1: Most of the leaders have been killed, actually got one

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Speaker 1: more yesterday. The guy that was running the Iranian army.

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Speaker 1: He is no longer with us. So and every time

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Speaker 1: Trump makes an announcement or pronouncement about it, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: blow up the energy sites. If you don't do it

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Speaker 1: by this day, the Iranians like, what the hell you

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Speaker 1: talking about? And if you do that, We're going to

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Speaker 1: start launching missiles and attacking these other countries and sites

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Speaker 1: and the US military bases and anybody else who is

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Speaker 1: cottoning up to the United States and the military action

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Speaker 1: against US. And then you get with a deadline extension.

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Speaker 1: This is the third extension, I believe. So now the

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Speaker 1: Iranians have until April sixth, specifically April sixth at eight

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern time to get this thing resolved. He's pausing

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Speaker 1: the period of energy plant destruction for ten days. So

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Speaker 1: it was first forty eight hours that was kicked. March

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Speaker 1: twenty third update, he announced he delayed the initial threat

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Speaker 1: against the Iranian energy facilities, citing productive discussions. And now

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Speaker 1: this is the second time he's postponed the new strikes,

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Speaker 1: so I'm not quite sure who he's negotiating with, but

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Speaker 1: I listened to. I don't want to sound critical of

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Speaker 1: what's going on. I just want to acknowledge ignorance about

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Speaker 1: what's going on, because depending on where you read and

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Speaker 1: what article you read, there's either discussions that are being

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Speaker 1: productive or the Iranians are not talking with anyone and

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Speaker 1: they think Donald Trump is talking to himself. Okay, Peter

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Speaker 1: Shabria Kellowiam, seven Hills, you won't be talking to yourself

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Speaker 1: when you're talking to Peter, Station six point twenty at

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Speaker 1: fifty five kr CD talk station tgif David he's on

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Speaker 1: board before we get the tech part of the day

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Speaker 1: of Hatter Okay, with the government apparently back open a

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Speaker 1: certain degree, postponing the energy strike sites over in the

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Speaker 1: Iranian conflict because of progress, I suspect I suspect with

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Speaker 1: the negotiations with Ron, at least it's the Trump side

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Speaker 1: of the argument, so no blowing up the energy facilities.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the violence in downtown Cincinnati all dominating the

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Speaker 1: news this morning, for which we'll get Signal ninety nine

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Speaker 1: and Corey Bowman at the seven o'clock hour. But I

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Speaker 1: thought this since we're coming up on Tech Friday with

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Speaker 1: Dave Hatter. This is absolutely crazy and thank god we

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Speaker 1: still have something of a constitution. We're not in Hong Kong,

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Speaker 1: where they announced earlier this week a new national security

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Speaker 1: rule or rules, effective immediately. Hong Kong police can demand

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Speaker 1: passwords from anyone who is merely suspected of violating national

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Speaker 1: security laws that outlaw dissent. There is no dissent in

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Speaker 1: Hong Kong. They can also demand passwords from the suspects friends.

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Speaker 1: They can order family members, employers, or anybody else who

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Speaker 1: knows the suspects passwords or decryption methods to provide them.

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Speaker 1: According to the announcement, a person is not excused from

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Speaker 1: complying with the requirement on the ground to do so

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Speaker 1: could tend to incriminate that person would breach an obligation

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Speaker 1: as to secrecy or any other restriction on the disclosure

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Speaker 1: of information. Failed to comply a crime punishable by up

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Speaker 1: to a year in prison. What about attorney client privilege? Sorry,

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Speaker 1: that isn't an excuse to refuse to disclose passwords. If

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Speaker 1: the police to make demand, the suspect has to hand

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Speaker 1: over the data first and then go to court seek

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Speaker 1: in order to maintain well to see that the correspondence

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Speaker 1: or whatever they grab from you is inadmissible as a trial.

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Speaker 1: So it's the flip of the Fourth Amendment. You have

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Speaker 1: to have probable cause that a crime has been committed

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Speaker 1: and then you get the information. If they go in

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Speaker 1: and take in a violation in your Fourth Amendment, it

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Speaker 1: is inadmissible a trial. You have to make emotion to suppress,

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Speaker 1: but in this particular case you are forced into compliance

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Speaker 1: with it. There is no Fifth Amendment right to be

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Speaker 1: free of self incrimination. So if the stuff incriminates you, sorry,

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Speaker 1: in Hong Kong, sucks to be you. The Chinese Communist

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Speaker 1: Party's in charge if the police claim, like for employers,

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Speaker 1: if the police claim one of your employees is a suspect,

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Speaker 1: they can force the employer to provide full access to

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Speaker 1: the work accounts as well. For those who think the

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Speaker 1: Constitution is in the whale the time, you know, isn't

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Speaker 1: it a wonderful thing? We don't live in an oppressive

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Speaker 1: country that's ruled by the Chinese Communist Party. You have

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Speaker 1: no right to privacy, period. End of story. Maybe Dave

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Speaker 1: Headder can comment on that too. And of course, as

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Speaker 1: we move into November, everybody's saying the Democrats are going

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Speaker 1: to take over. It's a presidential year. Donald Trump's unpopular

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Speaker 1: Democrats are going to win. This is what you get

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Speaker 1: when you vote for Democrats. Now, I do realize this

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Speaker 1: is House Democrats in the state of Pennsylvania. So this

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Speaker 1: is kind of funny though, and in fact, the House

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Speaker 1: of Representatives in Pennsylvania broke out in laughter over this

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Speaker 1: whole thing. So you start with House Speaker Joanne Clinton, Democrat,

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday ask the clerk to introduce House Resolution three ninety,

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Speaker 1: recognizing March as Women's History Month in Pennsylvania. The bill

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Speaker 1: celebrates the extraordinary accomplishments of women, which too often go unacknowledged.

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Speaker 1: McClinton asking the House, will the House agreed to the resolution.

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Speaker 1: They have a one hundred and two to one hundred

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Speaker 1: Democrat majority there. The clerk then indicated that State Representative

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Speaker 1: Aaron Bernstein, that's a Republican. Aaron had an amendment and

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Speaker 1: it was recognized you can go ahead and introduce it.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's protocol in the House in Pennsylvania. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, this amendment is very straightforward and clear.

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Speaker 1: It defines what a woman actually is because we do

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Speaker 1: know what it is. Thank you Bernstein's amendment to find

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Speaker 1: a woman as having two x chromosomes, saying it shouldn't

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Speaker 1: become controversial rather than actually discuss that or vote on

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Speaker 1: the amendment. Uh McClinton announced after several seconds of this

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Speaker 1: bill or this amendment being introduced, quote, the resolution is

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Speaker 1: temporarily over, which pulled it from the floor. No longer

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Speaker 1: subject to debate this seemingly straightforward motion to honor women,

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Speaker 1: The resolution is over, resulting in loud laughter from the chamber. No,

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Speaker 1: we cannot agree on what a woman is em corner Bernstein. Well,

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Speaker 1: then what happened was the speaker through the resolution because

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Speaker 1: we would have had we would have had people have

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Speaker 1: to vote on defining what a woman actually is. So

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Speaker 1: they pulled it because they were scared to define what

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Speaker 1: a woman actually is. So because it's temporarily over, this

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Speaker 1: may see see the light of day before. But you

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Speaker 1: know what, I wish this was more of an issue

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Speaker 1: for people in making choices about who they're going to

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Speaker 1: vote for. This is plain old bat craft insane, This

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Speaker 1: idea that you can't define a woman that the scientific

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Speaker 1: biological fact men have an X and Y chromosome, women

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Speaker 1: have an accent a X indisputable period. Democrats can't even

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Speaker 1: agree with that six twenty five. Right now, if you

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Speaker 1: have KCD talk stations, stick around Tech Friday with Dave

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Speaker 1: a Friday. That means it's time for Tech Friday with

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Speaker 1: Dave how it brought to you by his company intrust

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Speaker 1: it and final Online at intrust dot com. And you

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Speaker 1: want to find him. If you're a business and you

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Speaker 1: have computers, which I think is all of them, you

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Speaker 1: may need Dave's help get you out of trouble or

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Speaker 1: maybe even to set your systems up engaging best practices.

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Speaker 1: Bottom line is, when it comes to business computing in

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Speaker 1: trust it are the best. You know, take my word

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Speaker 1: for a business courier says, are the best. Welcome back, Dave,

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Speaker 1: hat to appreciate your willingness to come on the program

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Speaker 1: and wake us all up every Friday.

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Speaker 5: Good to hear from you, brother. Oh, it's my pleasure, Brian.

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Speaker 5: I look forward to it. And uh as I always say,

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Speaker 5: hopefully we're doing some good out there helping people avoid

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Speaker 5: the scams that are rampant.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, Well, there's this company, Striker, and I think we

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Speaker 1: talked about this a little bit a little a little

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Speaker 1: bit a week or so ago. Reportedly an Iranian threat

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Speaker 1: group called Handala had hacked into this Striker system, wreaking

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Speaker 1: havoc across the blow of the globe. So terrorist actions

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Speaker 1: don't have to be in the form of bombs or

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Speaker 1: you know, driving through crowds of people. When they can

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Speaker 1: do this kind of damage, let's talk about.

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Speaker 5: It, Dave. Yeah, Brian, Well, that's that's exactly right. And

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Speaker 5: this is the point I've been trying to make to

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Speaker 5: businesses and really organizations of any sort for a long time.

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Speaker 5: Especially a lot of smaller organizations think, well, this will

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Speaker 5: never happen to me. I don't have anything we're stealing.

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Speaker 5: You know, they're they're going to go after the Kroger's

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Speaker 5: and the P and G's and the fifth thirds of

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Speaker 5: the world. And that's that's true to an extent. But

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Speaker 5: you also have to understand, and you'll see how I'm

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Speaker 5: going to connect this to this Striker story. These large

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Speaker 5: companies have deep pockets, lots of resources. They'll typically have

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Speaker 5: cybersecurity experts on staff. They have all the resources to

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Speaker 5: hire as many nerds like me as they want, right Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and they often typically because they've got these experts, understand

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Speaker 5: the risks that they're up against. Many medium and small organizations, businesses, nonprofits,

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Speaker 5: local governments. Just this past week, another city in California

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Speaker 5: was hit thirty three thousand residents, much of the city

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Speaker 5: down through a devastating ransomware attack. These smaller organizations don't

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Speaker 5: understand the risk. And the point I'm always trying to

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00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 5: make is, first off, honestly, there is nothing you can

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Speaker 5: do to make your organization completely impurposed. I don't care

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Speaker 5: how much you spend, I don't care what you do.

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Speaker 5: If someone is telling you they can make you completely

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Speaker 5: impurpose to an attack, unless you just completely get off

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Speaker 5: all technology, it's not possible. But what you can do

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Speaker 5: is make yourself a much more difficult target. And this

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Speaker 5: has never been more important. The second part of this,

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Speaker 5: improve your defenses and build systems that are resilient so

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Speaker 5: that you can recover quickly in the event of an

921
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Speaker 5: outage for whatever reason, doesn't have to be a cyber attack.

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Speaker 5: Systems fail right, things go down, so Striker huge company.

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Speaker 5: According to the reporting, I've seen somewhere around fifty six

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Speaker 5: thousand employees in sixty one countries they get hit with

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Speaker 5: this Wiper attack. So Wiper is kind of like ransomware,

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Speaker 5: but instead of just encrypting your data and then saying

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Speaker 5: I'll let you decrypt it so you can use your

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Speaker 5: systems again. And as a remind your folks, if I

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Speaker 5: encrypt your systems, right, they won't run. Data is still there,

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Speaker 5: but it's all scrambled up computers, systems won't operate, okay, right,

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Speaker 5: So as part of a ransomware attack, typically it's a

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Speaker 5: two pronged attack. I encrypt your data, which shuts your

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Speaker 5: systems down, and I steal slash X filtrate your data.

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Speaker 5: I copy the data so that if you have built

935
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Speaker 5: resilient systems, if you've listened to some nerd like me,

936
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Speaker 5: you can wipe the systems, restore your data, get back

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Speaker 5: to work without paying the ransom. I say, well that's nice,

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Speaker 5: but now I'm going to start to release your data

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Speaker 5: on the internet. Could be you know, sensitive employee information,

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Speaker 5: sensitive customer information, trade secrets, information protected by NBA, contractual

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Speaker 5: information with another company. Who knows what the constant. You know,

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Speaker 5: information through regulation is protected Hippa for example, right, Striker

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Speaker 5: big company, deep pockets. The reporting is that over two

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Speaker 5: hundred thousand devices were basically shut down. I think about this,

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Speaker 5: two hundred thousand devices. I know, I said this the

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Speaker 5: last time we talked about it. Even if you have

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Speaker 5: resilient systems and they can be restored, if it took

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Speaker 5: ten minutes to restore each system, I think how long

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Speaker 5: that would do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think that's the point you

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Speaker 1: brought up previously. But yeah, you said this is a

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Speaker 1: wiper attack. This isn't what you just described. This is

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Speaker 1: just go in and delete right right.

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Speaker 5: It's even worse than ransomware because there's no intention for

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Speaker 5: you to be able to pay a ransom to get

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Speaker 5: your data back. They've just basically destroyed the data in

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Speaker 5: some form, could be encrypted, could be deleted, whatever. So

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Speaker 5: now at best you have to recover all these systems.

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Speaker 5: So here's the latest reporting, Brian, because I know we'll

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00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 5: run out of time. Striker Manufacturing mostly restored after cyber attack.

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Speaker 5: This story is from yesterday. The attack occur on the eleven,

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Speaker 5: So for somewhere around fifteen days they've had no or

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Speaker 5: limited capacity fifty six What do you think it costs

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Speaker 5: for fifty six thousand employees to sit around doing nothing now?

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Speaker 5: And what do you think it costs to restore all

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Speaker 5: of this? So my bigger point is businesses or organizations

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Speaker 5: of all sides need to be thinking about what would

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Speaker 5: it cost me for extended downtime and how can I

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Speaker 5: build systems that, if they're down for whatever reason, are

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Speaker 5: resilient and can recover quickly so I don't end up

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Speaker 5: out of business right because I can't recover there's so

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Speaker 5: much damage I can't recover, or it takes so long

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Speaker 5: to recover that I go out of business. And again,

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Speaker 5: this is a company that makes advanced medical devices. Now,

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Speaker 5: apparently none of the devices they make for their customers

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Speaker 5: were impacted. But again, imagine if fifty six thousand employees

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Speaker 5: had nothing to do for fifteen days. Could your organization

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Speaker 5: survive at fifteen day outage? I don't know, maybe, But

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Speaker 5: we've got to get serious about about def We've got

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00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 5: to get serious about resiliency. It has never been more important.

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Speaker 5: There's going to be more of this, yeah, you can

982
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 5: count on it, and we have to start thinking about

983
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 5: building systems that are robust and resilient, because you're going

984
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 5: to see more of this and it's only going to

985
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 5: cause more societal impact as we get more and more

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Speaker 5: reliant on this digital technology.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, get in trusted interest I T and back up

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00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: your system. Apparently these are nefarious characters out there, Dave

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00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: had it. Will continue our conversation, bring it back and

990
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: talk about this grandmother who is jailed after being improperly

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00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: identified on artificial intelligence as a fraudser more with Dave

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Speaker 1: Hatter after I mentioned Rhino Shield serving the greater insane community.

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Speaker 1: From talks Station Ay six forty one fifty five KERCD

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Speaker 1: Talk Station Love this time of the week talking with

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Speaker 1: Dave Hatter intrustit dot com. Thank you for sponsoring a

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Speaker 1: segment and bringing all this great information for us and

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Speaker 1: warning us about the dangers of AI. Got two articles

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Speaker 1: this one and the next segment. Let's start with a

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Speaker 1: Grandma and Tennessee. Dave, Yeah, this.

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Speaker 5: Is a really disturbing story, Brian, Grandma and Tennessee is arrested,

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00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 5: which is wild because some AI system some facial recognition. Right,

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00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 5: we're talking facial recognition specifically, you and I have been

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00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 5: talking about facial recognition for a long long time. Oh,

1004
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 5: and many of the issues with it, bias in the algorithms,

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00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 5: bias and the data problems like this. So this woman,

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Speaker 5: Angela Lipse, spent nearly six months in jail AI software

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Speaker 5: linkder to North Dakota bank fraud. It's really difficult for

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00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 5: me to understand exactly how as you read through the

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00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 5: reporting on this, that the police weren't able to do

1010
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 5: some of the required legwork to see that. Frankly, it

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00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 5: could not have been her.

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00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: There's always that, but yeah.

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00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 5: It's so you know, sins. She remained in jail for

1014
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 5: nearly four months without bail while awaiting extradition, charged with

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00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 5: four counts of unauthorized use of personal identifying information and

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Speaker 5: four counts of theft. Officers used facial recognition to identify

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Speaker 5: the suspect, is Lips, detective wrote in court documents looked

1018
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 5: appeared to match the suspect based on facial features, body type,

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00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 5: and hairstyle. Lips said no one from the Fargo Police

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Speaker 5: Department contacted her before rest. Yeah, and this is where

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00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 5: it gets crazy. So then her attorney, Jay Greenwood, said,

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Speaker 5: but if the only thing you have is facial recognition,

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00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 5: I don't want to dig a little deeper. Yeah, I'd

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Speaker 5: say it's like good, good thinking on her attorney's behalf.

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Speaker 5: So the reporting, says Lips was later released on Christmas

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Speaker 5: Eve after Greenwood obtained her bank records and presented them

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Speaker 5: to investigators. The record showed Lips was more than twelve

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00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 5: hundred miles away in Tennessee at the time. The investigator

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Speaker 5: said the fraud occurred. It's difficult for me to understand

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Speaker 5: how it could take almost six months to get that

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00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 5: information and why her attorney would have to do.

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Speaker 1: I am with you one hundredercent. That's exact same question

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00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: was swirling around my melon when you were talking about this.

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Speaker 5: But the really disturbing part, it goes on to say, worse.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it gets worse. Whips is now back home.

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Speaker 5: Last experience had lasting consequences, while Jaalen unable to pay

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00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 5: bills uster home or corn or dog and it has

1038
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 5: not even got an apology from the Fargo police. Now,

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Speaker 5: this is not the only time something like this has

1040
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 5: happened this story. The same story goes on to say, apparently,

1041
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 5: in an October and AI system apparently mistook a Baltimore

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01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 5: High school student's bag of Dorita's for a firearm call.

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01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 5: The police. Police show up, pull guns on this kid,

1044
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Speaker 5: make him get on his knees, handcuff him, search him,

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01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,919
Speaker 5: find nothing. And then, Brian, before we run out of time,

1046
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Speaker 5: let me read another headline to you. Leaked emails suggests

1047
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 5: RING plans to expand quote search party surveillance beyond dogs.

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Speaker 5: This is the thing that caused.

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01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: All the controversy on the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Where these awesome ring cameras are going to help you

1051
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 5: find your lost dog. Right, But here you go leaked

1052
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,439
Speaker 5: emails I'm read quoting from this article, Ring CEO told

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Speaker 5: staph the feature is quote first for finding dogs unquote,

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01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 5: indicating plans to expand. Now couple that your neighbor's friendly

1055
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 5: ring camera drops the dime on you through its bad

1056
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 5: facial recognition, and next thing you know, you're going to

1057
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 5: Fargo to jail for some crime commit because the ring

1058
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 5: AI thinks it's you. Wow. Yeah, So you know I'm

1059
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Speaker 5: not a fan of the Internet of Things aka square devices,

1060
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 5: as you know, Brian, And this is just one more

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Speaker 5: concrete example where I'm trying to help people connect the

1062
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Speaker 5: dots about why we really need to slow down with

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Speaker 5: this stuff. And despite the fact that it may seem

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Speaker 5: like it's good for society, it brings convenience, it's going

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Speaker 5: to catch all these criminals and so forth. We just

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Speaker 5: see example after example. Now, I'm sure Misslips will probably

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Speaker 5: end up suing someone and they'll get a big settlement,

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Speaker 5: which which is going to cost the taxpayers. Right, that's

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Speaker 5: gonna the taxpayers are the one that's going to pay

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Speaker 5: her if this happens. And I mean, the whole thing

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Speaker 5: is just sad.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 5: We really need to slow down with the stuff. We

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Speaker 5: need to think about the long term consequences of it.

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Speaker 5: It's nowhere near perfect as we see. And you know,

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Speaker 5: here's yet another example of really negative consequences for a person.

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Speaker 1: Law enforcement taking the easy way out. I recognition of

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Speaker 1: her or presumption that it is her, that was just

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Speaker 1: the one data point, one element in what might be

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Speaker 1: probable cause. But you know what, maybe we should check

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Speaker 1: and find out where she was. Maybe we should give

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Speaker 1: her a call and see if she's got an alibi.

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Speaker 1: Maybe she's not the person that that's just lazy law

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Speaker 1: enforcement right there, absolutely lazy.

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Speaker 5: Little hard to understand. Maybe we hit this ring thing

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01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 5: next week because I think it's crazy and disturbing. And

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Speaker 5: again people are buying these devices and plugging them in

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Speaker 5: with little thought to the potential consequences to them and

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Speaker 5: others because they're cool and they bring convenience. And yet

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Speaker 5: we see time and time again these problems that frankly

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Speaker 5: are often not reported on outside the tech press, and

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Speaker 5: I think it's more people start to start to understand

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Speaker 5: the potential risks and consequences. I'm hoping we will slow

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Speaker 5: down with these things.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm going to Station six if you want

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Speaker 1: to think about kercdtalkstation interest dot com as we find

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Speaker 1: Dave Hatter, My wife pointed out, our ring camera is

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Speaker 1: called Liam, Liam the perpetually barking Doberman. Dave had a

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Speaker 1: real quick here. Maybe you can address it next week.

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Speaker 1: I was kind of freaked out this going back to

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Speaker 1: your Internet of Things device comment. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: take up too much time because they even know the

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Speaker 1: story to talk about. But the FCC earlier this week

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Speaker 1: said wireless routers sold in the United States should be

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Speaker 1: avoided if they contain anything from foreign nations national security determination.

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Speaker 1: Routers produced in a foreign country, regardless of the nationality

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Speaker 1: of the producer pose an unacceptable risk to the national

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Speaker 1: security the United States of America and to the safety

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Speaker 1: and security of US persons. And of course the article

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Speaker 1: points out that what all the routers are basically made

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Speaker 1: in foreign countries anyway, so we're left without really a

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Speaker 1: solution to the problem they identified.

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Speaker 5: Dave, It's a tricky problem, Brian, and you know we've

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Speaker 5: talked many times in the past, and yeah, I think

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Speaker 5: we should dig into this more next week because there's

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Speaker 5: something I've been talking about a lot. You know, people

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Speaker 5: work remotely now, right, a lot. So even if your

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Speaker 5: company is doing all the right things, if people are

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Speaker 5: working remotely on many cases maybe maybe they've got a

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Speaker 5: corporate issue notebook or something. But the equipment from these

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01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 5: remote sites, whether it's a hotel room, it's their home office,

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01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 5: it's Panera, you don't know what that is, right, And

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Speaker 5: the point they're making here is so much of this

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Speaker 5: equipment comes from offshore, it could have back doors in it.

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Speaker 5: We've talked many times over the years about warnings of

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Speaker 5: Chinese Communist Party hackers and the telecom system and the

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Speaker 5: potential or chaos and destruction that could cause. If you know,

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Speaker 5: if you turn off the telecom system You might as

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01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 5: well just turn off the power grid too, because all

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Speaker 5: this stuff runs over the telecom systems, right, yes, it does.

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Speaker 5: So the point they're making here is, you know, we've

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Speaker 5: we've got to get serious about building stuff that is

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Speaker 5: secured by design, that is coming from trusted manufacturers, where

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01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,919
Speaker 5: you don't have soft doors with back door and it's

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01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 5: back doors in it where it not only would allow spying,

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01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 5: but could be remotely shut off. I mean, imagine if

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Speaker 5: a foreign adversary could just suddenly shut off all of

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Speaker 5: the routers that came from their country, or all of

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01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 5: the cars made from their country, or whatever it is. Right,

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01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 5: we got reshoring critical, you know, advanced manufacturing critical. We

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01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 5: gotta we gotta think critical infrastructure. We got to think

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Speaker 5: national security. And because everything is digital, because this stuff

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01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 5: is embedded and everything. Now, you know, we've got to

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Speaker 5: get focused on this stuff. You know, this has been

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01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 5: a concern of mine for a long time. I'm glad

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01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 5: that we're starting to try to raise awareness on this.

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Speaker 5: You know, the Biden administration had come out with a

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Speaker 5: program similar to Energy Star, and I'm drawing a blank

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01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 5: on what it is. We talked about it. I can't

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Speaker 5: think of the name. But the idea is that American

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01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 5: manufacturers would start to build things and they would get

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01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 5: essentially a certification like Energy Star telling you that it's safe. Yeah,

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01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 5: as opposed to buying you know, something you found at

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01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 5: best Buy or Walmart or whatever that has who knows

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Speaker 5: what in it. So this is going to be costly

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Speaker 5: to fix this problem. But you know, again, we have

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01:05:55,560 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 5: gotten addicted in America to cheap garbage, and we've got

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01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 5: to start thinking. Is now that everything is smart quote

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Speaker 5: unquote hahaha. Everything is an Internet of Things device. It's

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01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 5: all hackable, it's all got software, and the software can

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Speaker 5: have vulnerabilities. The hardware could have vulnerabilities by design, Brian,

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Speaker 5: by design to spy on you and to frankly, at

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Speaker 5: some future point, have a have a kill switch that

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Speaker 5: could be flipped remotely, and then what you know, imagine

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Speaker 5: if I don't know how many routers, Wi Fi routers,

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Speaker 5: switches that sort of thing there are out there. It

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Speaker 5: non enterprise great stuff that small businesses are using, individuals

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Speaker 5: are using, but obviously it's in the tens to hundreds

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Speaker 5: of millions. Imagine if all of those were just remotely

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Speaker 5: shut off one.

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Speaker 1: Day, it's certainly a possibility. And you've identified this as

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Speaker 1: a real threat for years now, Dave, And you know

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here looking at this article about you know,

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Speaker 1: we need to resure this and get safe routers manufactured

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Speaker 1: here so they're not loaded up with back doors. As

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Speaker 1: you point out, where's Elon Musk. The man's got a

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Speaker 1: trillion dollars if he had he has a guarantee need

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Speaker 1: money making business here because he's got the money to

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Speaker 1: create a US manufacturer of routers company that could be

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Speaker 1: declared safe, and everyone and his brother will wine up

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Speaker 1: to buy one because of this.

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Speaker 5: In my mind, Brian, one of the single most important

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Speaker 5: things we have to do as a country is resure

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01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 5: advanced manufacturing so that anything that has software in it

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Speaker 5: can and is made in the United States by trusted manufacturers.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't mean it won't be hacked, doesn't mean it can't

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Speaker 5: be hacked, but at least you don't have to have

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Speaker 5: the fear that is there a backdoor built into this

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01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 5: that would allow it foreign adversary to control it, including

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Speaker 5: turn it off at some an opportune time for you.

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01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 5: Maybe we've got to get serious about this, gets serious

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Speaker 5: about it critical.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we can dive onto this more detail. Maybe we

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01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: have a recommendation on a router that we might have

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Speaker 1: that in the world. That's safe right now. Dave had

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Speaker 1: her real quick. All right, I'm sorry, brother it next week.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Signal ninety nine and Corey Bowman coming up next

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Speaker 1: violence in downtown Cincinnati Opening Day, Dave had or God

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Speaker 1: bless you, sir, interest it dot com right back. We

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Speaker 1: put the app seven six fifty five kr CD Talks

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Speaker 1: station Brian Thomas here, glad to be but it's Friday.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're happy about it too. Not happy with

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Speaker 1: the outcome of the red Opening Day game. We obviously

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Speaker 1: lost the game. The parade was wonderful, the weather was great.

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Speaker 1: Reds didn't perform, but the whole city was not viewed

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Speaker 1: nationally because of the Reds game. It was viewed because

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Speaker 1: of the chaos that broke out in the street and

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Speaker 1: on the on the program here this morning, and welcome back,

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Speaker 1: and God bless both of you for showing up this morning.

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Speaker 1: Former mayoral candidate Corey Bowman, who's West End business owner

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Speaker 1: and resident in the he's he's got his finger on

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Speaker 1: the pulse of everything's going on. Downtown since say, of

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Speaker 1: course and Signal ninety nine or one on the inside,

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Speaker 1: who's got all the information real time? Apparently, welcome back

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Speaker 1: Signal ninety nine and Cory Bowman. It's always a pleasure

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Speaker 1: having you on the show, Brian. So, I guess starting

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Speaker 1: with a Signal ninety nine, were you how is it

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01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 1: that you got real time information about what was going on?

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Speaker 1: And folks, if you just waking up, you don't realize

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Speaker 1: that we had, you know, waves of us running them

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01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: up in downtown Cincinnati, deploying it's praying pepper spray all

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Speaker 1: each other and uh, using tasers on each other, being

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Speaker 1: violent in multiple areas. I guess Signal ninety nine you

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Speaker 1: refer to these these outbreaks as wild in takeovers? Is

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Speaker 1: that an official name for these, uh, the these street

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Speaker 1: takeovers by teens, that's what.

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Speaker 8: They call them across the country. Yes, and it's not new.

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Speaker 8: It's that you know, they do this. They create this chaos,

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Speaker 8: sometimes it involves violent and somebody's always filming it and

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Speaker 8: then they're able to post it on their social and

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Speaker 8: get clicks and it gives them a street cred.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well that's just ridiculous. I'm sorry. I struggle

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Speaker 1: with that as a concept. These people are so shallow

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01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 1: and so awful as human beings that to justify their

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Speaker 1: existence they get street cred for being violent and posting

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Speaker 1: the violence on social media. This is a breakdown of society.

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Speaker 8: It's very similar to the knockout game that we had

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01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 8: several years back, same same thing.

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Speaker 1: All right, this is this is well known, and you know,

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Speaker 1: we're not introducing the whole concept of street takers to

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01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: the to the listening audience. We see them break out

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01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 1: all the time. It's almost on a daily basis. But

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Speaker 1: a sad thing. What happens to the city of Cincinnati

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01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: who agreed that there would be no curfew enforcement, there

1245
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: would be free metro rides all day and no requirement

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Speaker 1: for parental presence. This is in that Banks area that

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01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: normally would have had a curfew. Question though, if the

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Speaker 1: curfew was in effect, and let's say theoretically it was

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Speaker 1: capable of being enforced, and I know there's question swirling

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Speaker 1: around that would it have stopped this because the curfew

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Speaker 1: kicks in at ten pm and I get the impression

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Speaker 1: that these violent outbreaks that started earlier than that. Can

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Speaker 1: can you respond to that?

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Speaker 8: Oh, they started early in the afternoon, so I started

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Speaker 8: getting reports of it before two thirty in the afternoon yesterday.

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Speaker 8: So I started putting some stuff together, and Corey and

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Speaker 8: I actually talked and touched on it several times yesterday,

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01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 8: back and forth, back and forth, right, right, my brother

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Speaker 8: from another mother, that's right.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Basically we had just gone back from the parade,

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Speaker 9: and it was a great parade, Like you said, Brian,

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Speaker 9: I think even Tricia Maxiew said that I live that

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Speaker 9: she had never seen that many people downtown before, Like

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Speaker 9: he was, great attendance.

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Speaker 1: It was a picture so glorious, Corey, I was looking

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Speaker 1: at the picture of someone I was watching it on

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Speaker 1: television live, like this is great. I mean, what a

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01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 1: great thing for the city. Already's down there and nothing

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Speaker 1: is happening. Obviously, I was wrong about my on that

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Speaker 1: at least until the bat and so I went after

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Speaker 1: the parade was over, but at least visually packed crowds.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's got their redstives on smiles. I mean, only to

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Speaker 1: have this happen and pretty much ruling the narrative for

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Speaker 1: the whole day. I'm sorry for interjecting like that, but

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Speaker 1: I was just so pleased when I was watching it.

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Speaker 9: Well, I want to mention this and I think Carolyn

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Speaker 9: will I think Sigle night and I will back me

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Speaker 9: up on this, is that you know, what you see yesterday,

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Speaker 9: what you saw last night, it could have been a

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Speaker 9: lot worse. There could have been a lot more when

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Speaker 9: it comes to shooting or when it comes to even

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Speaker 9: possibly death last night, because what you're seeing last night

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01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 9: was a very proactive approach by all the law enforcement.

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Speaker 9: When I was downtown in the parade, I talked with

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Speaker 9: several officers. We start our day off at the FOP

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Speaker 9: Hall just thanking everybody for all they do for the city.

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Speaker 9: And they they were on it. You know, they they

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Speaker 9: had a very well planned scenario case, you know, strategy

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Speaker 9: when it came to last night. So a lot of

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Speaker 9: the things that you're seeing, I mean, we still had

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Speaker 9: a shooting in Avondale last night, we still had a

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Speaker 9: stabbing in Westwood, so it was a very rough night

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Speaker 9: for the city. But I just want to commend all

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Speaker 9: the officers and all those involved, even from the county sheriff,

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Speaker 9: from the State patrol that was there last night, because

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Speaker 9: it is seriously, even though the images seemed a little

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Speaker 9: bit crazy. It could have been a lot worse last

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Speaker 9: night had that restraint not been affected.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I join you in your salute to law enforcement,

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Speaker 1: and it was a lot of law enforcement since a

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Speaker 1: police farm along with the Sheriff's Department and Ohio State

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Speaker 1: Patrol head to join in the fund here and signal

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Speaker 1: ninety night. I got the impression, or I get the

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Speaker 1: impression from the reporting on this in your comments yesterday,

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Speaker 1: that those who were not on duty last night, SWAT

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Speaker 1: team and others were called up to assist in reinforcing

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Speaker 1: the police officers dealing with this violence.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's certainly true a lot. So every deputy in

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01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 8: Hamilton County was called in the report downtown that was

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Speaker 8: on duty in their districts throughout the county, which means

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Speaker 8: basically mutual aid kicked in. So it wasn't just OSP

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Speaker 8: and CPD and the Sheriff's office, it was every law

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Speaker 8: enforcement agency in the county because the other agencies in

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Speaker 8: the county had to cover all the beats that the

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Speaker 8: Sheriff's office were pulled away from to go assist downtown

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Speaker 8: and quell the violence. So I want to commend everybody

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01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 8: that worked last night and yesterday because it took an

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01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 8: entire village. And when I say that, I mean it

1319
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 8: took every law enforcement agency in Hamlin County to step

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01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 8: up and try to fill the gaps last night. Because

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01:14:55,880 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 8: CPD was critical zero, the Sheriff's office pulled all their

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01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 8: resources into help save the city basically. And I'm sorry,

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01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 8: I'm so mad that I woke up this morning and

1324
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Speaker 8: found out that the city is calling it a disorder.

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Speaker 8: We had a disorder last night. We didn't have a disorder.

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Speaker 8: You don't ask for riot shields and a forty millimeter

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Speaker 8: pepperball cannon that you deployed. That is not a disorder. Okay,

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01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 8: that's a civil unrest. And I'm imagining I wasn't down there,

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Speaker 8: but from all the reports that I was constantly getting

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01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 8: by officers, by deputies, by citizens down there, it was rioting. Okay,

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01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 8: it was more like a riot. They were throwing stuff

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01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 8: at officers, they were fighting with officers. I mean, it

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Speaker 8: had you know, it had to be bad when juveniles

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Speaker 8: get pepper sprayed in mass So that's how it started,

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Speaker 8: you know, at Washington Park, and it just it just

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Speaker 8: escalated from there. It was chaos. It was absolute chaos

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Speaker 8: and I'm sorry, but where was the mayor? Is he

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01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 8: on vacation? Yeah, he's on vacation.

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Speaker 1: I've read multiple news accounts of this from various local

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01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: media sources. I've read your accounts, and I don't see

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01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 1: the mayor's name even coming up, So apparently he wasn't

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01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 1: around to talk with or no one bothered to reach

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Speaker 1: out and ask him about all this. No reference to

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01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 1: Cheryl Long in connection with the riots either, And of

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01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: course I'll throw in Iris Rawley since you mentioned her

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01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: name and you're reporting on what was going on in downtown.

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01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 1: Since studies signal nine as well, silence is deafening, let's

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01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: bring signal ninety nine, cornbumb in back. We've just started

1349
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 1: to unpackage this and sort of have a question about

1350
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: let's see all of those law enforcement resources drawn downtown.

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01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 1: We live in a very unstable world these days, and

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01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: could that not have been intentionally so that law enforcement

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01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: was busy with matters going on downtown, leaving everybody else

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01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: exposed to potential acts of violence and maybe an act

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01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: of terrorism. Jesus saying it out loud, it's seven point

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01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: fifteen fifty five KRC detalk station. What an appropriately timed

1357
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: commercial spot seven nineteen to thinking about KRCD talk station

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01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 1: and try to have a happy Friday, trying not to

1359
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: think about yesterday. Though that's what we're talking about, the

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01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: opening day, which should have been just a glorious grand celebration,

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Speaker 1: and it was up until about time the parade was over,

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Speaker 1: and at that point we got chaos. According to the

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01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 1: headline of the sense I inquired disorder and violence at

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01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: the banks arrest following Red's opening days, so disorder violence.

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Speaker 1: But it wasn't just the banks. We had these violent

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01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: outbursts of teens running them up the banks, Washington Park

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01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 1: and Fountain Square. They had to shut down the Robling

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Speaker 1: Bridge Signal ninety nine is with me along with former

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01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: Merrill candidate and business owner and resident of the West

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Speaker 1: End Corey Bowman. Were these Does anybody get the sense

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Speaker 1: that these were completely so separate areas the Fountain Square,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Bank's Washington Park, three separate areas of

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01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 1: unruly gangs of youths running them up or what do

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01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: you think these were coordinated and that they were just

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01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: spread out one sort of like I think of this

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01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: coming about as a consequence of a text message out

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01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: to everybody Hey, we're all going to meet it so

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01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 1: and so, and we're going to reacavoc or do whatever

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01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 1: we want. But this is the time, this is the place.

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Speaker 1: Any idea that this was coordinated? Were these three separate

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Speaker 1: or several separate outbreaks of violence?

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Speaker 8: Well, first it won several, not three, It was several,

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Speaker 8: And yes, they were absolutely coordinated. And I mean that's

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Speaker 8: what they do. You know the incident we had last July,

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01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 8: which they called the street brawl, Okay, you know that

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01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 8: type of it's the same type of thing. It's just ridiculous.

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01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 8: And you know what the city anticipated this could happen, right,

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01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 8: I mean they knew that. And can you imagine the

1389
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 8: horror for parents that were down with their kids enjoying

1390
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 8: opening day and that the traumatization that some of these

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Speaker 8: parents and kids went through. And you asked about Iris

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01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 8: Rolie Bran. I'm not trying to hog all the time

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01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 8: from Corey, but I just want to tell you Iris

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01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 8: Roly was at NAACP meeting while this was all happening

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01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 8: in downtown yesterday. And you know, she says it's safe

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01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 8: down there with her people, She's safe. Why did she

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01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 8: have two CPD officers assigned to her for protection.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, whoa whoa signal ninety nine, Iris Rollie, the

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01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 1: person that is most critical of law enforcement generally. She's

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01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: gone around asserting that their races. She has interfered with

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01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 1: law enforcement officers doing her doing their job on several occasions.

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01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 1: Stall on video For those who don't believe me, I

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01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 1: thought you didn't like police officers, and yet she got

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01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: two Cincinni police officers assigned to protect her.

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01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, and that's two officers that aren't helping right or

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01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 8: working emped or you know, while in the violence. They're

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01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 8: standing there protecting her. But she didn't need no protection

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01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 8: because the city's say, well, that's.

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01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 1: A good point. Why would she need two police officers

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01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: under any circumstance, Because she keeps harping that sin city

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01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati is safe, So that's that's absolutely crazy. But

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01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 1: now I'm glad that the law enforcement downtown generally understands

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01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 1: this and happened these street takeovers wilden takeovers as they're

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01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:46,680
Speaker 1: referred to nationally, I suppose, as do you know if

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01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: there's any discussions about this being utilized, this type of activity,

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01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:54,520
Speaker 1: the coordinated riots breaking out to distract law enforcement resources,

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01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 1: as I suggested, going into the break perhaps so that

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01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 1: something worse can happen elsewhere, like a terrorist act, or

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01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 1: to get everybody consolidated in one er so they can

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01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: well bomb the area. For law enforcement's been dispatched. I

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01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 1: don't know. I just look at this as a bigger

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01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 1: problem down the road potentially.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it.

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Speaker 8: Is something to be concerned about. But I do want

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01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 8: to say this Cincinnati Police Department, as well as the

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01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 8: Sheriff's Office, I'm going to give them credit here. They're

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01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 8: some of the best trained agencies in the country when

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01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 8: it comes to dealing with civil unrest. I mean, between

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01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 8: the bike squads and the CDRT and squat, they're on it,

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01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 8: and they've always been on it. They've always always been

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01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 8: on it, you know. And then what happens is, you know,

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01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 8: we get sued later and rather than fight it because

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01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 8: the officers were justified, the city just right to check

1434
01:21:55,800 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 8: with taxpayer money and pays off all these little rider

1435
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 8: and disorderly people. And I'm sure those lawsuits are coming

1436
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 8: because a lot of people got pepper bolt last night.

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01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 8: So you can't pepper ball my kid. Yeah, it's coming.

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Speaker 8: What do you think, Corey?

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01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 9: No, I would totally agree with you. You know, when

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01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 9: it comes to the distracting from downtown, our agencies have

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01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 9: their eyes on every area in the county and in

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01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 9: the region, So I would, you know, definitely trust the

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01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 9: police officer do that. Like I said before last night,

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01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 9: was a very proactive approach to prevent it from becoming worse.

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01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 9: It might not seem like it could have gotten worse,

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01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 9: but it definitely could have gotten worse. As far as

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01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 9: desks go, I will say this, as far as the

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01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 9: coordinated effort goes number one denominator that you're seeing with this.

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01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 9: A lot of times, I'm getting text from people in

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Speaker 9: the West End community. I'm getting text from people on OTR.

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01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,799
Speaker 9: I'm getting text from people that live at the banks

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01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 9: and they are saying that is youth violence. It is

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01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 9: you juveniles that are out to late at night or

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01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 9: whatever that might be, that are causing unrest.

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01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 8: And you know, there needs to be a call to.

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01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 9: Action to this. You know, what I said on the

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01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 9: radio even last night was that there is actually a

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Speaker 9: major judicial election happening this year with Susan Luken, who

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01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 9: is running against Judge Bloom, who is a juvenile court

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Speaker 9: in Hamilton County. That is a huge problem in our

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01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 9: county and in our city right now, is that juveniles

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01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,680
Speaker 9: are not being held accountable and that has to be

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01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,799
Speaker 9: the last straw for it. Because a lot of this unrest,

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01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,719
Speaker 9: that's why you're seeing the twenty one and up age

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01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 9: limits at the banks that people are calling for again

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01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 9: early on this year. That's why you're seeing a lot

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01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 9: of the unrest in OTR, especially in the West End.

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01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 9: It's a lot of youth violence and people that are

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01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 9: out of school.

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Speaker 1: Let's pause, bring Signal ninety nine and Corey Bowman, whose

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Speaker 1: voice you just heard, their back. We got more to

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Speaker 1: talk about on this issue at seven twenty five. Right

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Speaker 1: now fifty five KROSD Talk Stations. Well, great time to pray,

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01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 1: isn't it? Well, Gate of Heaven Catholic something the talk

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01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 1: station seven twenty nine. If fifty got Kercity talk station,

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01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: what a pleasure to have Corey Bowman and Signal ninety

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01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 1: nine on the phone today to talk about the crazy violence,

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01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 1: unruly crowds, disorder and violence, the deployment of pepper spray

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01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 1: cannon balls from the police department to disperse these unruly crowds,

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01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 1: Tasers apparently within the crowds being used on each other,

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01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,839
Speaker 1: terrible stuff, and of court Gate, the optics are completely awful,

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01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 1: and the whole thing screaming for a solution. Corey Bowman

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01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: and the signal ninety nine. But you can't pass the

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01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: law and make this go away. And you know, to

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01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 1: the extent mayor aftab provol or city manager share Along

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Speaker 1: or anybody on council wants to help do something about this,

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Speaker 1: because what do they want. They want more people to

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Speaker 1: move downtown. They want more people to increase the tax

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01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 1: base they want to make trying to put down there,

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01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,520
Speaker 1: present downtown as this glorious place to make your destination

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01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:51,600
Speaker 1: for a living. But more and more this kind of

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01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: stuff happens. Listen all the responses to your posts online

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01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 1: where I'm never going downtown again. You think I'm ever

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01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: gonna go downtown. There's no way this kind of violence

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01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 1: can break out any single time. You know, my wife

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01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: and I occasionally go to concerts at the Brady pu

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01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 1: the Center, and I'm not going down there now. Why

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01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: would I want to subject myself to this kind of

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01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:14,799
Speaker 1: potential problem. So what can be done? What can be done? Anything?

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Speaker 8: Well, we don't need to create a law. We already have.

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01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 1: Law a good point.

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01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 8: So we have laws that say, you know, we can

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01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:31,959
Speaker 8: cite these juveniles. We can arrest these juveniles. Then if

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01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 8: their behavior continues, we can cite their parents, and if

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01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 8: their parents don't pay the fines, we can arrest their parents.

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01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 8: So we don't need new laws. We just need to

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01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:47,560
Speaker 8: enforce the laws that are already on the books, and

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01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 8: we can't because we have a complete breakdown in the

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01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 8: judicial system. Carrie Bloom is the administrative court judge. She

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01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 8: makes all the decisions for the juvenile court for twenty twenty.

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01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 8: She absolutely will not hold these kids accountable. She spent

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01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 8: all last year educating them on what to say if

1513
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 8: they got caught on a curfew violation. Oh, I'm exercising

1514
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 8: my first Amendment right, you can't take me in. So

1515
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 8: that should tell you everything. You know why we need

1516
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 8: to vote in Susan Lucan and get rid of carry Bloom.

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01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 8: But even the adults, they get charged because you had

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01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 8: adults in that mix last night as well, that's a

1519
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 8: lot of them. Are the courts are the Are the

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01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 8: grown up courts going to hold them accountable? Were they

1521
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 8: going to get an arm on? You saw some of

1522
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 8: the videos that I posted. Yes, you know, a woman

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01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 8: on the ground being kicked repeatedly in the faith. It's

1524
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 8: it's terrific, okay, And that is what Cincinnati is known for.

1525
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 8: They're building this big, beautiful stadium them and this hotel

1526
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 8: and convention center, and the tagline needs to be come

1527
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 8: to Cincinnati because it's a real riot.

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01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 1: You should be in marketing sign ninety nine. But these policies,

1529
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 1: these you know, training juveniles on how to avoid arrests

1530
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 1: and all that, and of course once you're in the

1531
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 1: criminal justice system in Hamilton County, they are very very

1532
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 1: soft glove and an approach of of sentencing and of

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01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: course bond hearings. You can't lock a juvenile up. They

1534
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: don't even they don't even bother processing them anymore. So

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01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 1: who did she get her authority from? Why is she

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01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:39,599
Speaker 1: so soft on crime and trying to enable these youths?

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01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 1: Is that at the behest of the mayor. I have

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01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 1: to have Purvoll the city manager Cheryl Lung, who apparently

1539
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: I thought had control over the police practices. Is this

1540
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 1: their directive? Are they bringing this about the mayor and

1541
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 1: the city manager or is this Kerrie Bloom while the.

1542
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 8: Mayor and Carrie Bloom are attached to the hip and

1543
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 8: they and they have been I mean, and that's not

1544
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 8: a secret. They have not tried to keep it a

1545
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 8: secret going on. I don't know that I would call

1546
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 8: it a thing. Car He might hide her his car

1547
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 8: at her house though it doesn't get repos assed. But yeah,

1548
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 8: they know they're on the same Waveley.

1549
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,839
Speaker 1: So he's got no one to blame it himself.

1550
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 8: Then he's got no one to blame but himself. And

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01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 8: I think.

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01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: Also, what was that Corey.

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01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 9: I was just going to say this that you know

1554
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 9: a lot of people want to put the blame on one person,

1555
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 9: one scapegoat, and we can obviously go to the top.

1556
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 9: We had this thing in the campaign, trickle down the

1557
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 9: incompetence to where it's incompetence from the top down. But

1558
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 9: what you see from across the board that this is

1559
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:54,480
Speaker 9: a group effort. This is a group project and everybody

1560
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 9: needs to get the same credit, whether it be with

1561
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 9: Judge Bloom, whether it be with ryl Long, whether it

1562
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 9: be with any of the contractors of the city, or

1563
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 9: whether it be with City Hall, with Council, anybody that's

1564
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 9: having this lax on crime mentality needs to be held accountable.

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01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 9: It cannot just be.

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Speaker 2: At the top.

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01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 9: It's got to be everybody. So that's that's something now

1568
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,600
Speaker 9: I would emphasize, and you.

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01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:20,480
Speaker 1: Know, I guess if I was a resident of downtown Cincinnati,

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01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: I would be very vocal about this. And I don't

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01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 1: know it's for want of local reporting, for lack of

1572
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: trying to get what the what the word on the

1573
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 1: street is with the community, the various communities, perception of

1574
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 1: police officers and this violence that breaks out, because you know,

1575
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:39,600
Speaker 1: logical and reasonable suggests that residents of the city have

1576
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:41,639
Speaker 1: headed up to their eyeballs with this and they want

1577
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 1: some accountability and they want law enforcement to apply to well,

1578
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 1: law breaking juveniles as well as adults. Just start locking

1579
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 1: them up and giving people examples to follow that what's

1580
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 1: going to happen to them if they engage in crime.

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01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: Do you have any sense, Corey Bowman, they directed at you,

1582
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 1: since you live in the West End, any sense of

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01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 1: how what the community feels about this, or how the

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01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 1: community feels about this as opposed to how iris role

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01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 1: are apt to have pro Ball feels about it.

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01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 9: Well, I would say two things. Number One, when you

1587
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 9: see the criminal criminals. When you see the violent crime,

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01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 9: paint a picture from a very small number of people

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01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 9: painting a picture on an entire community. I'm in the

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01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 9: West End community, and what I mean by that is

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01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 9: when I say community, I mean the Black community. The

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01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 9: blankest statement that the entire community acts like this has

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01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 9: to be stopped because this is done by a small

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01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 9: number of people, small number of juveniles that haven't been

1595
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:43,560
Speaker 9: held accountable, and because of that, the crime continues to

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01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:45,720
Speaker 9: be rampant because of that small amount of people. You

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01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 9: talk to single moms, when you talk to the families

1598
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 9: that are living in the urban core, they're tired of it.

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01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 9: They want the police presence, they want the core systems

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01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,679
Speaker 9: to work for them as well. So that's number one.

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01:30:58,120 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 8: You know.

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01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 9: Number two biggest complet and I get is also from

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01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 9: business owners. People that live on the outside of the city,

1604
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 9: but when they own businesses in the city, they're tired

1605
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 9: of it. Because you know, a lot of people called

1606
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 9: for boycotts and everything of Downtown last year. My business

1607
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:17,560
Speaker 9: is downtown. I'm not calling for a boycott of downtown

1608
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:20,600
Speaker 9: because we need to be able to hire people, we

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01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 9: need to be able to run people and provide those services.

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01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 9: So that's a very frustrating thing is people that own

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01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 9: property and people that own businesses in the city as well.

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01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 9: If it doesn't change, they're going to continue to flee,

1613
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 9: and the residents are going to continue to do that

1614
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 9: as well.

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01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 1: That's the way I see the landscape, thinks Corey Bowman,

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01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:40,639
Speaker 1: you're living the reality of it right now. It's PAULI

1617
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 1: bring Corey Bowman in Signal ninety nine back at seven

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01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 1: thirty seven right now, fifty five KRC detalk station and

1619
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 1: an opportunity for you know, strongly encourage you to get

1620
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 1: fattalk station. Brian Thomas right here talking to Signal ninety

1621
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 1: nine and Corey Bowman. Of course, a strongly encourage you

1622
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 1: follow both them on Facebook if you want. You're going

1623
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:55,720
Speaker 1: to get real time what's going on in the city

1624
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati information from both and of course Signal ninety

1625
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 1: nine was doing real time about yesterday's riots. And thanks you,

1626
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 1: and I'll double down on your thanks to the coordinated

1627
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,680
Speaker 1: effort by the various law enforcement agencies all around the

1628
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 1: area that was that that helped, you know, sort of

1629
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 1: stave off any bigger, broader problems we might have had.

1630
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: But I guess signal ninety nine I can. I asked

1631
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 1: this to you. Isn't that coordinated effort with the House,

1632
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 1: State Highway Patrol and the Hamilton County Sheriff and CINCINNT

1633
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 1: Police Department and other law enforcement agencies. Isn't that exactly

1634
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:28,480
Speaker 1: what Police Chief Dji suggested be done in the aftermath

1635
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 1: of the beatdown that Holly and others received last summer

1636
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 1: when all the violence hit the streets. Wasn't that her

1637
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 1: suggestion and resulted her in getting placed on administrative leave.

1638
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 8: Absolutely, ste brought everybody to the table, got everybody to

1639
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 8: agree that they were going to, you know, try to

1640
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 8: hold the court accountable and you know, work together to

1641
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 8: combat all the violent crime going on in the county.

1642
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 8: And she was slaved for it. I didn't like that

1643
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 8: they thought she spoke out a turn. She didn't. He's

1644
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 8: the chief of police. She's still the chief of police.

1645
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 8: I want to remind everybody of that. And I want

1646
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 8: to say one thing else. Corey touched on it. It

1647
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 8: breaks my heart every time I see these videos and

1648
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 8: post it because it impacts the way everybody's viewsed the

1649
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 8: black community. I don't have problems with any of the

1650
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 8: black communities in our city, in our county, and they're

1651
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 8: the ones that get victimized the worst. They're the ones

1652
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 8: they're getting getting victimized by the violent crime. And of

1653
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:49,679
Speaker 8: course they want to feel safe. Of course, they want

1654
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 8: their kids to be able to play outside. Of course,

1655
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,720
Speaker 8: they don't want to have to watch TV laying on

1656
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 8: the floor in case of straight bullet comes to their

1657
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 8: window or the wall. People should not have to live

1658
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 8: like that. And every time I post one of these videos,

1659
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 8: I cringe because I end up I know I'm going

1660
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 8: to have to block at least one hundred and two

1661
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 8: hundred people for racist comments. And it's ridiculous. It's causing

1662
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 8: more racism. Yeah, with these politics that are in play,

1663
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 8: it's causing people to actually hate the black community as

1664
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 8: a whole. And that's not fair to the black community.

1665
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:38,600
Speaker 8: It's not their fault, no, you know.

1666
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:43,719
Speaker 1: And the response from those crazies within any given community

1667
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 1: that it's racism to point the finger at criminals and

1668
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 1: suggest that this is a racist kind of thing that

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01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 1: you're engaged in. Oh, you like the Somali community in Minnesota,

1670
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 1: they wouldn't laid allow that fraud, waste, and abuse to

1671
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 1: going for years and years because anytime someone raised the

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01:34:57,479 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 1: specter of hey, we got to go after this fraud,

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01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 1: well that's race. No, it's not. You want to get

1674
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 1: rid of crime, you go after the criminals. They're a

1675
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 1: subset of the broader community. In this particular case, the

1676
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 1: violent youths that were running them up. I saw the

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01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 1: video largely, if not predominantly or completely black young people.

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01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:16,680
Speaker 1: They are a subset of the black community. This is

1679
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:20,840
Speaker 1: not an indictment of black people. It's an indictment of criminals, criminals.

1680
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:26,480
Speaker 8: It's an indictment of their parents. Also because they refuse

1681
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 8: to watch their kids. Well, I can't control my kids.

1682
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 8: Will take their phones away, you know, set their phones off.

1683
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:38,400
Speaker 8: That's how they're communicating. They're communicating to their social media

1684
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 8: platforms and through text message groups. And it's the same

1685
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,320
Speaker 8: thing with you know, it just goes on and on

1686
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 8: and on. If you can't control your kids, ask for help.

1687
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 8: But the first thing you could do is take their phones.

1688
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 8: Because I'm going to tell you, I'm talking to all

1689
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 8: these parents right now that just let their kids run

1690
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 8: them up. Well, your kids are gonna get hurt, your

1691
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 8: kids are going to get shot. People are afraid, and

1692
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:07,200
Speaker 8: they're tired. They're tired of all of it. Well, i'lso

1693
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:08,360
Speaker 8: going to be awful.

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01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 1: I'll suggest Signal ninety nine, that is a great, great idea. However,

1695
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 1: a parent who realizes that the cell phone is the

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01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 1: source of the connection with the other criminal element out there,

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Speaker 1: I bet that parent does not have a child that

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01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 1: would engage in this type of conduct because they care

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01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 1: enough to even consider taking the phone away. It's the

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01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 1: ones that you pointed out don't care whether their kids

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01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 1: are at two o'clock in the morning or whenever. Therein

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01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:33,600
Speaker 1: lies the challenge. And again that's a subset of the

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01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 1: broader parental community out there. Most parents, I would like

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01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 1: to think and believe, have a genetic predisposition to one

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01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 1: of keeping their kids out of trouble and out of jail.

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01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 1: One more with Signal ninety nine and Corey Bowman after

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01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 1: I mentioned the wonderful folks at Galaxy Concrete Cuttings of

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01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 1: Seiety five KRC Detalk Station, and try to have a

1709
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:51,720
Speaker 1: happy Friday, think of the weekend, think of the fun

1710
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 1: you can have, and try not to think of yesterday,

1711
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 1: although yesterday I think just is the Maybe the tip

1712
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:58,559
Speaker 1: of the Iceberg into the future. If we don't do

1713
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 1: something to crack down on you violence, primarily, they're not

1714
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 1: going to get a message that they shouldn't be violent,

1715
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 1: and they're going to continue to get together in huge

1716
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:09,600
Speaker 1: groups and ruining the fund for everyone else. On the

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01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 1: phone here today, Corey Bowman, former maryl candidate, knows what

1718
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 1: it's like to live and have a business in the

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01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,760
Speaker 1: West End. He's a little concerned about people leaving and

1720
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 1: fleeing and not showing up in the city, which seems

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01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:21,519
Speaker 1: to be a growing trend. Of course, Signal ninety nine

1722
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:23,080
Speaker 1: has got a finger on the pulse of everything that's

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01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 1: going on real time with the police downtown Cincinnati. You

1724
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 1: can find them both on Facebook. I just turned the

1725
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 1: mic over to YouTube and any further comments about this,

1726
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 1: because we do have a real serious crime problem on

1727
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 1: our hands, and of course largely driven by wild youth

1728
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:44,799
Speaker 1: who don't care at all. Apparently, well, I'm.

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01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 8: Gonna actually field this, Corey. I you know we're on

1730
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 8: the same page that these parents don't want a parent.

1731
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 8: You can't expect a CPD and other agencies to babysit

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01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 8: your kids. I mean, I don't think anybody in their

1733
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 8: right mind as a parent, would have just let their

1734
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 8: kids go downtown yesterday on a company. So, you know,

1735
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 8: maybe they need a parenting class, Maybe they need the

1736
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 8: court to force them to take a parenting class. Maybe

1737
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:17,679
Speaker 8: they need to go to kirk you.

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01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:18,640
Speaker 1: Know there you have it.

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01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know. So I just dropped off my boys

1740
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 9: at school, and you know, they go to school in

1741
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 9: downtown cincinaty right here, at a local school, and I

1742
01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 9: was just thinking about, you know, the roles that people

1743
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 9: play in whatever society or whatever you want to say.

1744
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 9: When we're going through a spiritual crisis, like what we're

1745
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:44,479
Speaker 9: going through right now, people look to government and people

1746
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 9: look to all these other governing authorities to do things

1747
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 9: that should be done in the home and be done

1748
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 9: by a church community. So when it comes to parenting,

1749
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 9: you know, a teacher should never have to replace a parent.

1750
01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 9: A police officer or a government official should never have

1751
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:02,640
Speaker 9: to replace a parent. A parent, you know, need to

1752
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 9: be able to fulfill those roles at home. I would

1753
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 9: encourage everybody listening to, you know, whatever stage that you're

1754
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 9: in in life, and get involved in a local church

1755
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:14,719
Speaker 9: community to where you can have a support system around.

1756
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 9: But we're looking to police officers, you know, for a

1757
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 9: lot of answers. Their answer is the police officers are

1758
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 9: the last straw. Growing up, you know, if my parent

1759
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 9: told me, hey, don't speed, don't you know, act reckless,

1760
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 9: don't do anything, you know, I'd get disciplined at home.

1761
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 9: But they knew that if I if I disobeyed my parents. Ultimately,

1762
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 9: the last straw is I'm going to go to court,

1763
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 9: or I'm going to go to jail, or I'm gonna

1764
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:43,719
Speaker 9: get pulled over by a police I don't know about

1765
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 9: everybody else, but growing up, when a cop car passed

1766
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 9: by you, you know, immediate, you know, fear went into you,

1767
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:53,920
Speaker 9: just because you don't want to do anything wrong. And

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01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 9: that's something that we don't have anymore. We saw the

1769
01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:59,879
Speaker 9: unrest last night, and that was happening in the presence

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01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:00,640
Speaker 9: of police.

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01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 1: Officers and directed at the police officers. From what I've

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01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:04,960
Speaker 1: read too, yeah.

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01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 9: It was directed directly. That's why they pulled in all

1774
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 9: of the reinforcements because they were already getting resistance to

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01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:14,960
Speaker 9: the officers that were already on site. So they knew

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01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 9: they're not going to put up that We're not going

1777
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 9: to have an incident that's going to cause deaths. So

1778
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:21,080
Speaker 9: that's what we have to look to the police for.

1779
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 9: If you see police they're barricading or using force like that,

1780
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 9: that's their job. Their job is to be the last straw.

1781
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 9: But we've got to enforce those values at home bringing

1782
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:34,480
Speaker 9: kids in, whether it be with the local church community,

1783
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 9: whether it be with the parents and the home, whatever

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01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:39,880
Speaker 9: that might be. And I would encourage everybody no matter what,

1785
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:43,240
Speaker 9: that relationship with Jesus is going to help number one

1786
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:44,240
Speaker 9: as well well.

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Speaker 1: And you know that sound advice, Corey. And I'm glad

1788
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:47,679
Speaker 1: you brought up the fact that you took your kids

1789
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 1: just to school teachers. And you know, quite often i'm

1790
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:54,640
Speaker 1: critical teachers unions and they're woke leftist ideology. But if

1791
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:56,759
Speaker 1: you want to know why kids aren't doing well in school,

1792
01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 1: maybe it's because there's a classroom full of twenty five

1793
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:02,479
Speaker 1: or thirty. Many of these children are the ones that

1794
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 1: were running them up in the streets and have no

1795
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 1: discipline or no concern or no care. They're the ones

1796
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 1: ruining the education environ for everybody else, making it impossible

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01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 1: for a teacher to teach children how to read and

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01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:14,840
Speaker 1: write and perform basic mathematical calculations.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but I think it speaks volumes that the agencies

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01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 8: in Kentucky last night shut off access to the pedestrian

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01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 8: bridges for people to come to walk into Kentucky. Everything

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01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 8: you need to know is right there. That's that's how

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01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:40,600
Speaker 8: bad it is.

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01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 10: Another state blocked off pedestrian accesses to get out of

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01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 10: the city because they didn't want none of that in

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01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:51,799
Speaker 10: northern Kentucky.

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01:41:51,880 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 1: The Berlin Wall. Wow, well, I hate to laugh at

1808
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 1: that because it's born of a sad and pathetic reality.

1809
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 1: But boy, didn't you put an exclamation point on that

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01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:08,680
Speaker 1: one signal ninety nine. God bless you for coming on

1811
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:11,200
Speaker 1: the show today. I appreciate all of the real time

1812
01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:13,679
Speaker 1: reporting from both of you yesterday. You know, we wait

1813
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 1: for the morning. We hope that local news would report

1814
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:17,840
Speaker 1: on it, and we do have some reporting on it.

1815
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 1: But to know what's going on real time and see

1816
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 1: this information and get the details that both of you provide,

1817
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 1: it's just it's been a real service to the community generally,

1818
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 1: and you two both continue to be a genuine benefit

1819
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:30,680
Speaker 1: for them, the greater Cincinnati community and most notably the

1820
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:33,599
Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati. Proper keep up the great work. Both.

1821
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:36,720
Speaker 1: You have a wonderful and safe weekend, and I look

1822
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 1: forward to having you both together or individually back on

1823
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 1: the program because I know we've got more to talk

1824
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 1: about down the road. Thank you, Thank you both, Thank

1825
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 1: you both. Be safe out there. Seven to fifty five.

1826
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 1: Don't go away, folks. After the top of the air news,

1827
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 1: we're not going to get Jack Winsory hit eight oh

1828
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:55,640
Speaker 1: five and fifty five KROC DE Talk Station. I'm very

1829
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 1: happy Friday to you. Let's move over to something that

1830
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 1: is truly happy. Born of problems and an ever growing

1831
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 1: population of seniors out in the world needing assistance, whether

1832
01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 1: in the home or in an assisted living facility, and

1833
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 1: the problems and complications that go along with that because

1834
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 1: quite often they are not properly cared for, which is

1835
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 1: a sad reality, but it is in fact a reality.

1836
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 1: And I think of my dad in the facility when

1837
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 1: he was dealing with his Alzheimer's. My mom was there

1838
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 1: every single day because, of course she loved him, but

1839
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 1: also of course because she was painfully aware of the

1840
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 1: realities of being an assisted living facility and that he

1841
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 1: would not be tended to her level of desire and

1842
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:34,600
Speaker 1: that is literally the case everywhere. Welcome back to the

1843
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:38,080
Speaker 1: fifty five Case Morning show from Heart Number four Seniors

1844
01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:39,840
Speaker 1: dot or Hard for Seniors dot R. We're going to

1845
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:41,599
Speaker 1: talk about what they are doing for seniors out there.

1846
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,719
Speaker 1: Patty and Roger back in the studio to talk about

1847
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:46,719
Speaker 1: something that I had no idea about now. Previously, Patty Roger,

1848
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:48,880
Speaker 1: you were talking about the modern technology you have the

1849
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 1: incontinence undergarments to immediately notify staff through a software app

1850
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 1: that someone needs to have their diaper change, because of

1851
01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:59,760
Speaker 1: course if they don't, they'll just follow the schedule that

1852
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:01,760
Speaker 1: they're on, and that person, your loved one, may be

1853
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:05,520
Speaker 1: wallowing in it for hours and hours before they ultimately

1854
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:09,080
Speaker 1: reach the place on the schedule, or they're dry when

1855
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 1: it comes time for them to be checked on, and

1856
01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 1: five seconds after the nurse leaves the room, that's when

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01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 1: it happens. So the software as fires up and it

1858
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 1: provides a whole lot of other information. It's just an

1859
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:21,559
Speaker 1: amazing development and thanks to Hart for Seniors for that.

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01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:24,720
Speaker 1: But the reason that is a problem I understand is

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01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:27,679
Speaker 1: wallowing and that can lead to a urinary tract infection

1862
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 1: and that is not good. But what else can lead

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01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 1: to a urinary tract infection. And I found that out

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01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 1: this morning, laziness. If I could sum it up, if

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01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:38,559
Speaker 1: I got that right, let's start with and Patty, I

1866
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:39,639
Speaker 1: love having you here.

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01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 6: Thank you.

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01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:42,599
Speaker 1: And I understand the phone's ringing off the hook over

1869
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 1: hard for seniors.

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01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:47,040
Speaker 6: We appreciate all the phone calls so much from all

1871
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 6: of your listeners, all the donations. We really do appreciate it.

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01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 6: But yeah, let's talk about the what's really going on

1873
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 6: here with regards to laziness.

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01:44:56,400 --> 01:45:00,559
Speaker 1: Well, and it started with this. You call this a tepee. Yeah, well,

1875
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:03,639
Speaker 1: it's a little tent. It's a little placard. And they

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01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:05,160
Speaker 1: brought it and immediately handed it to me, and it

1877
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 1: says do not insert urinary catheter without family consent. I

1878
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 1: was looking at that. Wait a second, why would anybody

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01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:15,759
Speaker 1: just sort of randomly use a catheter on someone. Roger's

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01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 1: got the answer to that, and it's sad and disturbing.

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01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 1: Roger explain how this happens and why it's a bad thing.

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01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 7: Well, there are reasons for using a urinary catheter a

1883
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 7: foley catheter, which are pretty well spelled out by the

1884
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 7: CDC guidelines. But what we see often happening is we

1885
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 7: have patients, in particular in the hospital environment where the

1886
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 7: person's using the call light to go to the bathroom

1887
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:51,759
Speaker 7: or you know, they're having incontinent needs and they summon

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01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 7: the staff and this becomes a problem and at some

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01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 7: point the staff decides, well, we're just going to insert

1890
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 7: a catheter and that is not an appropriate reason. That's

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01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:05,719
Speaker 7: a staff convenience issue, that is not an appropriate reason

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01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:08,240
Speaker 7: to insert a catherin. And this is really a problem

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01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:16,560
Speaker 7: because catheter associated UTIs are the highest reason for infections

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01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:18,040
Speaker 7: in the hospital environment.

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01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:20,960
Speaker 1: Well, you're introducing a foreign object in an area that

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01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 1: shouldn't have a foreign object in under normal conditions, and

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01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:26,240
Speaker 1: I would think that is a ripe opportunity to bring

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01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 1: about an infection.

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01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:30,360
Speaker 7: Correct. And so what we see happening in particular with

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Speaker 7: the seniors is about seventy five percent of these people

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01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:39,040
Speaker 7: are going to get uti' it's a very high infection rate.

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01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:43,559
Speaker 7: And once they have that UTI it goes to the bladder,

1903
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 7: it goes to the kidneys that can go to the bloodstream.

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01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:51,959
Speaker 7: It's a high mortality rate for seniors. In particular, for seniors,

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01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 7: they're vulnerable to this. So this came up in our

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01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:59,560
Speaker 7: technology pilot that we're doing. We've seen it happen a

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01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:03,719
Speaker 7: number of times now, so you know, at this point

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01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 7: we think it's an education and an advocacy issue. The

1909
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:11,640
Speaker 7: best way to handle this is to communicate with the

1910
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 7: staff of the hospital as much as you can, as

1911
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 7: effectively as you can, that you do not want that

1912
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:22,679
Speaker 7: cather inserted unless there's an appropriate reason for it.

1913
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Speaker 1: Well, and you know, again, I had no idea that

1914
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:28,559
Speaker 1: this was a problem. It's born of laziness. They don't

1915
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:30,639
Speaker 1: want to deal with having to do a diaper change

1916
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:32,479
Speaker 1: or something. But the person doesn't really need a catheter

1917
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:37,639
Speaker 1: because everything I guess is functioning quote unquote normally. But

1918
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 1: that they would come in and just put it in.

1919
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 1: I always thought that if there was a catheter in place,

1920
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 1: and that was because a doctor ordered it, I didn't

1921
01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 1: realize they had the leeway and liberty to just go

1922
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 1: ahead and put one in anytime the damn well felt well.

1923
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 7: Actually, it's the opposite of that. Sometimes. I think Patty's mother,

1924
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 7: when she was in the hospital, had an order on

1925
01:47:55,520 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 7: the chart to not use a urinary catho a specific I.

1926
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:03,519
Speaker 6: Had a specific order to not put a Catherine in

1927
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:06,360
Speaker 6: her because if you remember, we've talked about this years

1928
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:08,320
Speaker 6: prior to that, she had broken her hip. They had

1929
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 6: used a catherine surgery and they didn't take it out

1930
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 6: for days after we kept saying it. She dealt with

1931
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:16,479
Speaker 6: a UTI for nine months. Oh, we couldn't get rid

1932
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:18,879
Speaker 6: of it. So then she was back in the hospital

1933
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 6: for a completely different reason. I specifically put in the

1934
01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:25,200
Speaker 6: order do not cather her. She needs assistance to get

1935
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 6: up to go to the bathroom. But it works. She's

1936
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:31,200
Speaker 6: not incontinent, she can hold it until she gets there.

1937
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:33,599
Speaker 6: She kept ringing, ring and ring and ring and ring

1938
01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:35,559
Speaker 6: and ring, and they wouldn't come in. They wouldn't get

1939
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 6: her up, and so at night they caught her, even

1940
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 6: though I had a note in the file and not

1941
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 6: to Cather immediately went back in the next day and

1942
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:45,920
Speaker 6: told him to pull it because and again she got

1943
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:48,839
Speaker 6: a UTI. Oh no, just in that short time period.

1944
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 6: It was so frustrating.

1945
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:52,680
Speaker 1: Well, put the explanation point out of Roger's pointed out,

1946
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:54,920
Speaker 1: you can die from these perfections.

1947
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:58,559
Speaker 6: My father in law died of sepsis from a UTI

1948
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 6: in twenty four hours from a catheter from a from

1949
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 6: a catheter.

1950
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 7: I would say the numbers that we've seen as much

1951
01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:10,480
Speaker 7: as seventy five percent of the UTIs that occurrent hospitals

1952
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 7: are from the catheters.

1953
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 1: Not a quote unquote naturally occurring thing. No, because you

1954
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:20,040
Speaker 1: can get a UTI without a catheter correctly correct.

1955
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 7: It is the most common calls of secondary bloodstream infections

1956
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 7: and those are deadly. That's a trip to ICU. At

1957
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:32,920
Speaker 7: that point, you're in trouble. And so why would we

1958
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 7: want to use a catheter because somebody's using their call

1959
01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:41,640
Speaker 7: light or because somebody needs assistance going to the bathroom,

1960
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:45,960
Speaker 7: and that then becomes staff convenience And it's absolutely not

1961
01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 7: a reason to do this. And when you're doing this

1962
01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:51,840
Speaker 7: with a thirty year old, that's one thing. But when

1963
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 7: you're doing this to an eighty year old or a

1964
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 7: seventy five year old or an eighty five year old,

1965
01:49:56,760 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 7: you're now dealing with a completely different problem. A lot

1966
01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:04,920
Speaker 7: of these folks just don't recover, and it's a pretty

1967
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:09,680
Speaker 7: common cause of death. So we want to educate, We

1968
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:12,520
Speaker 7: want to we want to teach families how to advocate,

1969
01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 7: because these people need advocates.

1970
01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 1: They do.

1971
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:19,840
Speaker 7: They really need family members to step up and say no, no, no,

1972
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:23,679
Speaker 7: So we came up with Heart did this.

1973
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 1: Tent.

1974
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 7: It's like a folding tent you can put on the

1975
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 7: bedside table. It's a sign that says do not insert

1976
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:36,760
Speaker 7: urinary catheter without family consent. We're giving these away heart Is.

1977
01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 6: They're free. All you have to do is reach out

1978
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:42,280
Speaker 6: five one, three, four for four twenty thirteen. You can

1979
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 6: email us, you can call. We're sending these out free.

1980
01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:50,000
Speaker 6: Along with that one page little flyer there that gives

1981
01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 6: them the CDC guidelines. Oh good, does cut what's real

1982
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 6: and what's not?

1983
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:57,719
Speaker 1: So it's not just some sort of random, arch arbitrary

1984
01:50:57,720 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 1: thing coming from a family member. Here is our placard

1985
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:02,000
Speaker 1: saying do not do it without a consent, and here's

1986
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:04,240
Speaker 1: the CDC guidelines go along with it and telling you

1987
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 1: exactly why. Correct. Oh, that's outstanding. Correct, that's outstanding. Well,

1988
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 1: you know the website, as they pointed out, you can

1989
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 1: get your plackard through the website too. Just click on advocacy.

1990
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:15,479
Speaker 1: There's a pulldown many's at the top of Heart number

1991
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 1: four seniors dot org. Click on advocacy, get your placard.

1992
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:22,519
Speaker 1: Call it a tpe, called a tent. It's a piece

1993
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:25,880
Speaker 1: of paper that folds into something that stands upright and

1994
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:29,200
Speaker 1: says do not insert urinated catheter without family consent. Now,

1995
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm still a lawyer. Is there liability connected

1996
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:39,520
Speaker 1: with this? Because if they're not, under CDC guidelines supposed

1997
01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 1: to insert a catheter and they do it simply because

1998
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:45,920
Speaker 1: they don't want to respond to the calllite and that

1999
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:48,519
Speaker 1: leads to a urinary tract infection, which leads to the

2000
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:51,000
Speaker 1: death of a loved one, is that exposed the Obviously,

2001
01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying this out loud in these pargular terms because

2002
01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:56,439
Speaker 1: people in the healthcare community might hear my voice and go, oh, geez,

2003
01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:58,519
Speaker 1: I didn't realize we might be sued for that. Is

2004
01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 1: that potential right there? That that sort of.

2005
01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 7: Well, absolutely, And the CDC makes it very clear that

2006
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:09,720
Speaker 7: catheters are not to be used as a substitute for nursing.

2007
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 6: Care period you go, period.

2008
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:17,840
Speaker 7: And when they do this as a substitute for nursing care,

2009
01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:22,439
Speaker 7: they just violated the CDC guidelines for use of these all.

2010
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 7: So yeah, I think there's liability. But here's the thing.

2011
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:28,720
Speaker 7: If you think about it, when people go in the hospital,

2012
01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 7: when their loved ones in the hospital. We have this

2013
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:38,880
Speaker 7: almost unbending trust that the hospitals are the pinnacle of

2014
01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 7: our healthcare system and they're going to just do the

2015
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 7: right thing. They're not going to do anything like this

2016
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:49,640
Speaker 7: to our loved one. This is where education and advocacy

2017
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 7: comes in, because if you don't know, if you haven't

2018
01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:57,040
Speaker 7: educated yourself on this issue, and if you don't advocate,

2019
01:52:57,160 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 7: you're going to come in and tomorrow morning when you

2020
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 7: visit your mom or your dad, and there's going to

2021
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 7: be a catheter in them. So the idea here is

2022
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 7: to stop that before it happens by putting the sign up,

2023
01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 7: maybe getting an order on the chart, which they will

2024
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:16,560
Speaker 7: ignore sometimes, Patty, but you have to advocate.

2025
01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 1: You have to advocate.

2026
01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:21,640
Speaker 7: You have to protect your elderly loved ones from this

2027
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:23,679
Speaker 7: problem because it will happen.

2028
01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 1: Period, It will happen. You get two people sitting in

2029
01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:28,800
Speaker 1: front of me and the seat all the time, one

2030
01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:32,120
Speaker 1: who lost her father as a consequence of this happening.

2031
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:34,479
Speaker 1: In spite of the order in the chart, do not

2032
01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 1: insert your in a catheter without family consent. Get your

2033
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:39,600
Speaker 1: placard at heartfort Seniors dot com. Call them up at

2034
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:42,040
Speaker 1: five one three four four four twenty thirteen. More info

2035
01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:44,679
Speaker 1: from Heart for Seniors Patty and Roger. After these brief words,

2036
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:45,240
Speaker 1: don't go away.

2037
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 3: Fifty five krc RC A talk station.

2038
01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:52,799
Speaker 1: A twenty fifty five KRCD talk station. Very Happy Friday

2039
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:55,720
Speaker 1: to you. Distressing news, but I am so happy to

2040
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:57,360
Speaker 1: be in a position to let other people know about this.

2041
01:53:57,479 --> 01:53:59,240
Speaker 1: I certainly had no clue in spite of the fact

2042
01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:00,879
Speaker 1: my dad was in an asia to the living facility

2043
01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:04,000
Speaker 1: and did have a catheter. To one point over use

2044
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 1: of catheters, there are inappropriate uses in their appropriate uses

2045
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:10,240
Speaker 1: for catheters, and so Heart for Seniors Patty Roger here

2046
01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 1: with their little placard, which you can get by simply

2047
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 1: calling five one three four four four twenty thirteen free

2048
01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:18,599
Speaker 1: for you. Go to the website Heart number four Seniors

2049
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 1: dot org, click on the advocacy link get your placard.

2050
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:25,000
Speaker 1: There it says, do not insert urine area catheter without

2051
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 1: family consent. They're using them inappropriately as a substitute for

2052
01:54:28,439 --> 01:54:32,200
Speaker 1: obtaining your inspectimens, for example, for dealing with a senior

2053
01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 1: that might need to get assistance to go to the bathroom,

2054
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 1: not for incontinence, just because it's inconvenient for the staff

2055
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:40,280
Speaker 1: to have to respond to a call likeight. So in

2056
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 1: goes a catheter and along with that a good chance

2057
01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:45,800
Speaker 1: of getting a urinary tract infection, which for most, notably

2058
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:47,920
Speaker 1: the senior community, we learn from Roger that they could

2059
01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:51,120
Speaker 1: be deadly. Patty knows from this personally. Her father died

2060
01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:53,760
Speaker 1: from UTI that he shouldn't have had a catheter in him,

2061
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 1: and they put it in anyway. Let's address the pushback, Patty.

2062
01:54:57,360 --> 01:55:00,480
Speaker 1: His chart said do not use a caf. They did

2063
01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:02,400
Speaker 1: it anyway. And I know that you've had some experience

2064
01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:07,040
Speaker 1: with these little placards that some institutions welcomed them and

2065
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:10,080
Speaker 1: will honor them, while others will remove them from the

2066
01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 1: patient's room. It depends on who you're dealing with.

2067
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 6: So we just started the advocacy a few weeks ago.

2068
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:19,920
Speaker 6: We've already had one local hospital that embraced it, completely

2069
01:55:20,440 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 6: supported it, sat their bedside, the family loved it. They

2070
01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:29,000
Speaker 6: had open communication, and I'm happy to report the senior

2071
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 6: did not get a catheter inserted in, and they came

2072
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:34,480
Speaker 6: in and they helped him to the restroom and he

2073
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:37,560
Speaker 6: got out totally fine, and he's back home. We had

2074
01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:42,040
Speaker 6: another situation and another institution where the tent was removed

2075
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:43,360
Speaker 6: and stayed.

2076
01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 1: At a pad because its tent, I think of that camping.

2077
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a little tepee. It's a little it's a

2078
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:52,840
Speaker 6: little triangle tpe. It's not very large. Yeah, it just

2079
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:54,720
Speaker 6: sits right bedside. You can see a picture of it

2080
01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:58,280
Speaker 6: on our website. And they took it out. They took

2081
01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:00,160
Speaker 6: it out and said that we had to meet with

2082
01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 6: hospital administration and the family was like why, Like I

2083
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 6: want this on the chart. Like all I'm saying is

2084
01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 6: don't insert a catheter until you call me and tell

2085
01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 6: me why why.

2086
01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:13,200
Speaker 1: And then you can look at the appropriate indications, which

2087
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:15,880
Speaker 1: information hard for seniors will give you along with a

2088
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 1: TP ten placard. Call it what you will when is

2089
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 1: it appropriate acute urinary retention or bladder outlet obstruction? So

2090
01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:26,200
Speaker 1: a family member can say why are you inserting the catheter.

2091
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:27,640
Speaker 6: When there's no obstruction?

2092
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:29,840
Speaker 1: When they have the conversation, and then they can go

2093
01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:32,720
Speaker 1: through and say why, Well, because your father has acute

2094
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:35,840
Speaker 1: urinary retention, you can say, okay, that's a reason, and

2095
01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:39,200
Speaker 1: it justifies the cath use other accurate other reasons, accurate

2096
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 1: measurement of urinary output in critically ill patients, perioperative use

2097
01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:49,879
Speaker 1: for selected surgical procedures, check assistance in healing open sacral

2098
01:56:49,960 --> 01:56:54,839
Speaker 1: or parenial wounds, fine, patient requires prolonged immobilization, unstable spine,

2099
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:59,240
Speaker 1: multiple traumatic injuries, fine, and finally end of life comfort care.

2100
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:02,600
Speaker 1: So those situations it's justified. But if you have the

2101
01:57:02,600 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 1: conversation with a family member, my medical provider friends, you

2102
01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 1: can at least explain it to them. This is within

2103
01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 1: the CDC guidelines on what you are proposing to do,

2104
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:12,560
Speaker 1: in which case the family member can say, okay, I consent,

2105
01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 1: Catherin problem solved.

2106
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 8: Correct.

2107
01:57:17,080 --> 01:57:17,959
Speaker 1: That's the process.

2108
01:57:18,160 --> 01:57:18,879
Speaker 6: That's the process.

2109
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:24,240
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, what happens instead is second shift nurse decides to

2110
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:28,240
Speaker 7: insert to catheter because they're short stout, they're busy, they

2111
01:57:28,240 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 7: don't want to answer the call light. And now we've

2112
01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:34,520
Speaker 7: introduced a deadly in fact potentially deadly infection to a

2113
01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:38,280
Speaker 7: senior and it's just a sad outcome at that point.

2114
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:40,960
Speaker 1: Well, and you know, I will observe in comment maybe

2115
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:43,760
Speaker 1: again from this because we've talked about it before. It

2116
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 1: is very difficult, like with senior living facilities, to get

2117
01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:50,640
Speaker 1: people to even work there, and when they do work there,

2118
01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:53,880
Speaker 1: they're usually underpaid and overwork. They've got more people than

2119
01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:55,640
Speaker 1: they they are taken care of them, they should be

2120
01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 1: taken care of. Following that again, checking the linens and

2121
01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 1: the diaper skins. There's only so much of those people

2122
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 1: can do. But Heartforce Seniors heard the number four seniors.

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Speaker 1: Dot org has got great technology, not not to stand

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Speaker 1: in the way of them wanting to do some easy path

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Speaker 1: out of dealing with your loved one a long while

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Speaker 1: by like inserting urinary caths, but getting the software and

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Speaker 1: the diapers that tell the individuals there and that they

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Speaker 1: need to be changed as opposed to following the schedule,

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Speaker 1: just doing it when it's necessary. Simple things like that

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Speaker 1: can make their jobs much easier and maybe even making

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Speaker 1: a more appealing profession to pursue. It's a tough gig.

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Speaker 6: It's a tough gig, and so many families. Now, I mean,

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Speaker 6: I'm a sandwich generation. I've got my parents and I've

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Speaker 6: got my kids, and I'm right stuck in the middle,

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Speaker 6: still working. And I mean, here's the deal, we're all.

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Speaker 6: I mean, my mom's independent living at home. Your mom's

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Speaker 6: independent living in it. She is they want to stay

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Speaker 6: at home, and I want them to stay at home,

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Speaker 6: but we need the tools. So like, my mom has

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Speaker 6: the watch right and she's not in continent yet.

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Speaker 1: So hold that thought. I'll tell you what hold on that.

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Speaker 1: Since we really dedicated good amount of I'm the first

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Speaker 1: couple of segments to the urinary tract issue, people now

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Speaker 1: know about it and can call five one three, four

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Speaker 1: four four twenty thirteen. Let's remind people about the watch

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Speaker 1: and the other technology because this, if you haven't heard

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Speaker 1: about it, this is going to make everyone's life much better.

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Speaker 1: Whether you're a provider, or you're the loved one in

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Speaker 1: bed getting tended to, or you're a family member of

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Speaker 1: the loved one and you feel like you're at wits end.

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Speaker 1: Let's make your life easier. Heart number four Seniors dot

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Speaker 1: or don't go away. We'll bring them back and share

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Speaker 1: their experiences. And they want you to share your stories too.

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Speaker 1: If you've got a urinary tract infection story, it sounds

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01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:36,440
Speaker 1: weird to ask for it, you can get that on

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01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:39,720
Speaker 1: you can post it online at hertforseniors dot or correct

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Speaker 1: and you're you want people.

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Speaker 6: We want We want their stories because we want to

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Speaker 6: be able to help them and we want to educate

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Speaker 6: other people, and we're going to post those stories with

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Speaker 6: their permission, just to have them out there. Again. It's

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Speaker 6: about education and advocacy. We have to educate family members

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Speaker 6: on how to take care of these seniors.

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Speaker 1: You got to educate providers as well. Eight twenty six

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Speaker 1: right now, fifty five k CD Dog Station, don't away.

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Speaker 3: This is fifty five krc an iHeart Rate the talk station.

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Speaker 1: Ay thirty fifty five KRCD Talk station Love for Seniors.

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Speaker 1: Actually it's Heart for Seniors, Heart the number four Seniors

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Speaker 1: DOT or just doing wonderful, wonderful things for seniors that

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Speaker 1: are dealing in an assisted living facility or getting care

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Speaker 1: at home, obviously frail, maybe struggling with other medical complications.

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Speaker 1: Family members worried about them, keeping track of them, helping

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Speaker 1: out when they can other people like care providers and

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Speaker 1: assisted living facilities or in hospitals. They have a lot

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Speaker 1: of work on their plate and quite often, as we

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Speaker 1: found out in the last couple of segments, they're well

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Speaker 1: taking a shortcut route putting it a catheter in when

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Speaker 1: they are not under a CDC guidelines to even get

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Speaker 1: a catheter. So you can get your little placard put

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Speaker 1: it next to your loved one's bed. No catheter without

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Speaker 1: family consent, Fine, do that. It's easy to get the

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Speaker 1: placard five one three four four four twenty thirteen. But

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Speaker 1: moving away from the UTIs I've had you folks on.

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Speaker 1: This is Patty and Roger in studio from Hart for

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Speaker 1: Seniors about the advancements in technology that is helping. I

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Speaker 1: would say family members as well as medical providers perhaps

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Speaker 1: get ahead of problems and solve some of the issues

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Speaker 1: with this wonderful diagnostic tool that that watch has become.

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Speaker 1: So remind my listeners and those who don't know what

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Speaker 1: you're going to be talking about about this amazing, amazing

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Speaker 1: thing that everybody hearing my voice can get for their

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Speaker 1: loved one. It's a smart watch, but it's a whole

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Speaker 1: lot smarter than a smart watch.

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Speaker 6: It is it's alert response technology, and it's really taking

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Speaker 6: the watch and putting it with our software system, which

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Speaker 6: is what is the most powerful piece ever.

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Speaker 1: That's the app.

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Speaker 6: That's the app, and it now can be used for

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Speaker 6: home base. And here's the deal with it. So your

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Speaker 6: loved one goes to the doctor's office maybe once a

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Speaker 6: year or twice a year, they get their vitals and

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Speaker 6: they leave, right, nobody knows after they leave from that

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Speaker 6: one intake of the vitals what really goes on. This

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Speaker 6: is twenty four seven monitoring and not just heart rate

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Speaker 6: just pull socks, not just HRV two feet on the ground,

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Speaker 6: symmetry walking. I mean my mom, right, I mean I

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Speaker 6: can detect early on. I want to prevent a fall.

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Speaker 6: I don't want more falls. And what's really interesting is

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Speaker 6: it takes in time. So for example, last night, I

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Speaker 6: can pull up and see exactly what her low heart rate,

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Speaker 6: what her high heart rate was, when it was all

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Speaker 6: the above, and there's a correlation, for example, in when

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Speaker 6: she takes her medication. So everybody should understand because we've

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Speaker 6: had members that have been working with us who kept

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Speaker 6: falling and the family members were like, why are they falling?

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Speaker 6: You put the technology on and we're realizing, well, it's

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Speaker 6: at five am, it's at seven am. Well, ironically it's

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Speaker 6: after they've taken their medication. So for example, if you're

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Speaker 6: on a medication, it's very sensitive the older that you get.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and one of the ones that Roger brought up

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Speaker 1: and break was flowmax. Yeah, you're having trouble urine any

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Speaker 1: you get it up three four times at night. Guys.

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Speaker 1: Quite often they'll put you on flowmax. But sadly as

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Speaker 1: you get older, for.

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Speaker 6: An eighty five year old, it was making them dizzy

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Speaker 6: and causing false They took our reports and the data

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Speaker 6: to their doctor. He looked at it and he was like, wow,

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Speaker 6: I'm taking off a flow max. Took him off of flowmax.

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Speaker 6: Haven't had any false no false sense.

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Speaker 7: What's what's really interesting and I think as the critical

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Speaker 7: part of this to not miss is we're flowing a.

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Speaker 1: Lot, a lot of data.

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Speaker 7: Yes it's a lot, and we've developed a very powerful

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Speaker 7: artificial intelligence engine which takes that data and produces for

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Speaker 7: the family and for the physician and analysis of all

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Speaker 7: the data and summarizes it into a couple of paragraphs

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Speaker 7: and describes medically what might be going on here.

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Speaker 1: It's a hints and suggestions, not necessarily conclusions, but here

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Speaker 1: are some things you might want to look.

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Speaker 7: At, possible recommendations. And then we have human in the loop, right,

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Speaker 7: the doctor involved, so he can look at those that report.

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Speaker 7: If he doesn't want to look at days and days

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Speaker 7: of data, he gets a very powerful AI engine summarizing

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Speaker 7: for him what might be going on here and giving

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Speaker 7: him suggestions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you think about that again, going back to

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Speaker 1: your point on it's twenty four to seven. Is being

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Speaker 1: collected twenty four hours day, seven days a week. There's

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Speaker 1: not a physical I don't care how many times you

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Speaker 1: go see your doctor. No one has that amount of

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Speaker 1: information about somebody.

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Speaker 7: No, And it's a senior focused AI legion, it's not.

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Speaker 1: So it's not I would wear one necessarily, although I'm

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Speaker 1: getting up in years. But it isn't for me. It's

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Speaker 1: for folks.

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Speaker 7: I would recommend it for anybody because if to me,

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Speaker 7: no matter how old or young you are, he could

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Speaker 7: have a problem and not know it true until something happens, right,

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Speaker 7: and it makes you aware of it. So what this

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Speaker 7: does is it streams all this data and then analyzes

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Speaker 7: it for you. AI is an amazing tool. It can

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Speaker 7: be is proper life probably extremely powerful doctor and Dave

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Speaker 7: Hadter this morning for Tech Friday. It isn't always great

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Speaker 7: thing that it can be. And you know, I've always

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Speaker 7: viewed AI.

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Speaker 1: Just from a ten thousand foot perspective, since I'm not

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Speaker 1: cast savvy on things medical necessarily or AI. But it

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Speaker 1: is it seems to be a perfect tool for medicine,

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Speaker 1: because what doctor in the world is the ultimate perfect diagnostician,

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Speaker 1: What doctor in the world has all of this information,

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Speaker 1: and what doctor in the world could just literally take

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Speaker 1: all the information to the extents right in front of

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Speaker 1: them and crunch it down and put it into one nice,

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Speaker 1: neatly digestible piece of boiled down information.

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Speaker 6: AI does all that, And the issue is to Brian

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Speaker 6: is here in Cincinnati, we have multiple wonderful healthcare systems,

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Speaker 6: but especially seniors. They'll have a cardiologist, they'll have a pominologist,

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Speaker 6: they'll have a kidney doctor. Sometimes they're not all on

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Speaker 6: my together, so they're actually prescribing different medications and no

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Speaker 6: one's actually looking the polypharmacies.

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Speaker 1: It's huge.

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Speaker 6: It's a huge issue in sor these.

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Speaker 1: Medicines in or aren't I know, you know? And that

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Speaker 1: was the other thing I was thinking about. Pharmacists were

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Speaker 1: the ones that usually were used to be charged with

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Speaker 1: knowing what drug interactions can be tolerated and where the

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Speaker 1: red flags pop up. I don't know that they're even

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Speaker 1: doing that anymore. That's just me speaking out of turn, perhaps,

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Speaker 1: but someone's got to know what the end individual who's

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Speaker 1: taking the drugs are all about all the drugs and

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Speaker 1: all the information. So when someone starts following you to

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Speaker 1: be able to deduce that, oh gee, it's that addition

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Speaker 1: of flow back.

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Speaker 7: It goes back to advocacy. Okay, the pharmacist is not

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Speaker 7: your advocate. Your son or your daughter is right, or

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Speaker 7: your loved one, somebody who really cares about you. And

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Speaker 7: the way this system works is we communicate with this

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Speaker 7: ap not just with the patient, but the son, the daughter,

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Speaker 7: two daughters and two sons can all.

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Speaker 1: Right now, mom, Hey, looks your vital signs are looking

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Speaker 1: really good.

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Speaker 7: To say you can advocate when you have information, yes

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Speaker 7: you can, but you can't when you don't.

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Speaker 6: And let me say one last thing, and I hate

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Speaker 6: to say this, but I'm going to say it. We

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Speaker 6: can't continue to advance this technology without funding.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 6: And I'm going to say something here that might be

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Speaker 6: a little off base, but I'm going to say it anyway.

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Speaker 6: All of our funding has come from individuals. We have

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Speaker 6: not had any company step up, really none, no companies

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Speaker 6: have stepped up. They're all donations from individuals. We would

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Speaker 6: love a Cincinnati based company to care and really help

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Speaker 6: us donate. They're small little donations that come in and

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Speaker 6: they're fine, but I don't understand why companies are not

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Speaker 6: supporting our senior.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is tax deductible five oh one three C

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Speaker 1: type of organization we're talking about here, So it is

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Speaker 1: a and what a societal benefit. Oh my word. If

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Speaker 1: you can get ahead of these medical problems and you

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Speaker 1: don't end up with the UTI or a fall or

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Speaker 1: a hip break or anything, that saves everybody a heapload

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Speaker 1: of money. All right, we'll bring them back because there's

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Speaker 1: I just kind of want to get not only just

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Speaker 1: to boil down a summary of the technology you have

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Speaker 1: it hard for seniors, but also we'll give out the

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Speaker 1: information on how people can help out because they are

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Speaker 1: really doing God's work here hard for seniors. Don't go wait,

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Speaker 1: it's eight thirty eight right now. If you have KRCIT

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Speaker 1: talk station.

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Speaker 3: Fifty five, KARC the talk station.

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Speaker 1: Hey forty one fifty above KRCD talk station Patty and

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Speaker 1: Roger from Heart number four Seniors dot Org and pivoting over.

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Speaker 1: I got over the breakdown even more wonderful information. Okay,

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Speaker 1: who out there is got a senior loved one? And

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking of mom. Mom, when you can't reach them

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Speaker 1: on the phone. Mom's got a cell phone, Mom's got

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Speaker 1: a landline. If I call both of those and she

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Speaker 1: doesn't answer either of them. She's eighty six, she does

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Speaker 1: live alone. She can still drive and she gets around.

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Speaker 1: That freaks me out. Where is she?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: Could be a phone problems, She's had some of those lately.

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Speaker 1: But you have an answer and a solution to that problem.

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Speaker 1: Going back to the app you can get from Hard

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Speaker 1: for Seniors and the watch, problem solved, problem solved. Where's

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Speaker 1: your mom right now?

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Speaker 6: My mom actually is a I know exactly where she

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Speaker 6: and I also know her heart is beating, and her

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Speaker 6: pull sox is good, and she has HRV.

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Speaker 1: But there's peace of mind.

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Speaker 6: It's peace of mind. It actually happened to me personally

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Speaker 6: last night. My cousin called panicking, and anyway, long story short,

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Speaker 6: she was sleeping, but we we had the watch on her,

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Speaker 6: so we knew vitally she was doing well. And however,

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Speaker 6: this one, we've had a lot of members call us

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Speaker 6: begging because they're seeing early signs of dementia and people

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Speaker 6: are starting to leave their home. And these are people

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Speaker 6: that are living at home their spouses are wanting to

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Speaker 6: keep them at home. But a scary thing is is

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Speaker 6: you go to yoga class, so you go to the

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Speaker 6: grocery and you come back and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 6: someone has left the promise. So we actually are testing

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Speaker 6: right now. It's it will be released here in the

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Speaker 6: next several weeks. Our GP segment to the watch and

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Speaker 6: it's got two features geo fencing, so we can set

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Speaker 6: a perimeter of two hundred feet or whatever the distances

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Speaker 6: that you want. If somebody leaves the house, it will

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Speaker 6: alert you alert response technology.

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Speaker 1: That's better than the ankle bracelets we have in the

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Speaker 1: state of Ohio for felons who have been put on

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Speaker 1: probation in their own homes and aren't allowed to leave

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Speaker 1: and then cut them off and wander around for months

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Speaker 1: only to go and kill somebody in their own apartment

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Speaker 1: and there and then also yours actually were or will work.

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Speaker 6: It does, and then you can actually find them. So

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Speaker 6: that's the second piece of it is you can actually

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Speaker 6: locate exactly where they are.

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Speaker 7: There's a map and you can see where they're at

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Speaker 7: and you can go get them.

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Speaker 1: What amazing peace of mind that bring about. So over

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Speaker 1: at the website again, Heart number four seniors daughter or

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Speaker 1: right the up right hand corner. You can do a

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Speaker 1: donate button. If there's a business out there and you're

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Speaker 1: looking for a worthy worthwhile charity. Man, I can't think

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Speaker 1: of something better. This is. This is money saving, life saving,

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Speaker 1: peace of mind providing. It's good for providers, it's good

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Speaker 1: for your loved one, it's good for you. There is

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Speaker 1: no downside. And I'll tell you what. Next time I

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Speaker 1: get my chemo treatment, I'm taking over your bandages. Ye,

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Speaker 1: the skin tear bandages. Seniors deal with this all. This

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Speaker 1: is one of the first things that you and I

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Speaker 1: ever talked about, Patty from Heart for Seniors. Yes, senior's

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Speaker 1: skin is frail and it rips easily, like a simple

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Speaker 1: band aid will tear the skin, and of course that's

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Speaker 1: an opportunity for infection. Of course it's a pain in

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Speaker 1: the butt if that's where the bandage was. Anyway, But

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Speaker 1: every time I go and I get the line put

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Speaker 1: in my arm and then they tape it down, and

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Speaker 1: the tape that they use literally rips all of the

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Speaker 1: hair off of my arm. And they even warn me

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Speaker 1: about it ahead of time. Oh, you're gonna get a

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get hair gonna hurt even It's like every

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Speaker 1: time I'm over them, like why didn't I bring the

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Speaker 1: nose stick bandages, the bandages that stick but easily come

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Speaker 1: off right there, skin tear skill, silicon bandages, all shapes

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Speaker 1: and sizes for you at heartfor Seniors dot org. And

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Speaker 1: you can even get free samples of those.

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Speaker 6: Free samples, free samples, so free everything today. Again, donations

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Speaker 6: THEFF please, we we just to make it very clear,

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Speaker 6: we are not paying our board. We have everybody that

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Speaker 6: works for us as volunteer. Nobody is getting a salary.

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Speaker 6: Every single dollar that's being brought in is being put

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Speaker 6: back to the technology, to the watches, to the phones,

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Speaker 6: to the skin tier bandages, Like we live and die

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Speaker 6: on donations.

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Speaker 1: That is great to know. He reminds me of Matthew

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Speaker 1: twenty five. You give a buck to Matthew twenty five,

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Speaker 1: a buck goes to the charity. Give a buck to

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Speaker 1: United Way, maybe fifty cents because they got huge overhead,

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Speaker 1: giant salaries. I'm like, got four to one cave contributions.

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Speaker 1: They got it all, so yeah, make this is a

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Speaker 1: great bang for the buck. So again, an appeal to

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Speaker 1: businesses out there who can't afford to make a more

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Speaker 1: sizable contribution. Help hardfour seniors do out dot org out

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Speaker 1: all right. In conclusion, Patty and Roger, you have the

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Speaker 1: anti skin tear bandage technology. Yes, you have got the

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Speaker 1: little do not insert urinary catheter without family consent placards,

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Speaker 1: which right there, I mean, just you know where you

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Speaker 1: can go, folks hard for Seniors dot org and there's

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Speaker 1: the shop link that's where you can rent it all

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Speaker 1: the technology. Can my listeners get the watch and the

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Speaker 1: app from your website as well?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, they just click on it if they already

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Speaker 6: have an Apple eleven, there's certain criteria. But if not,

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Speaker 6: I will say we've partnered with Verizon and we can

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Speaker 6: actually offer, believe it or not, a full package plan

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Speaker 6: to where they get unlimited phone calls, unlimited texting as

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Speaker 6: well as our entire ecosystem, and it's way cheaper than

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Speaker 6: anybody else has.

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Speaker 7: The Verizon stepped up IBM helped with the aih.

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Speaker 6: We are centel donations but a coolable, valuable, very.

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Speaker 7: Very affordable five G watches, very very affordable iPhones.

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Speaker 6: Yes seventeen Bran new.

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Speaker 7: The IBM infrastructure has been critical for our AI development

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Speaker 7: and that AI piece is. It's like the tip of

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Speaker 7: the spear.

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Speaker 6: It's huge.

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Speaker 7: At the end of all this data stream, it gives

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Speaker 7: you an absolute analysis of what just happened in the

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Speaker 7: last twenty four hours or seven days, thirty days or

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Speaker 7: fourteens or thirty days, whatever you want to decide you

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Speaker 7: want to look at, and it gives you an intelligent

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Speaker 7: summary of what is happening with your loved one. Multiple

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Speaker 7: metrics or metrics, multiple metrics, multi and again you know

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Speaker 7: for the small price that this actually costs, and the

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Speaker 7: amount of peace of mind and information, and the fact

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Speaker 7: that it is literally life saving in the sense of

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Speaker 7: these the notices you get like the I fallen and

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Speaker 7: I can't get up notice you automatically get if your

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Speaker 7: loved one falls. I mean, we want to prevent the fall,

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Speaker 7: prevent the fall, and we want our prevent.

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Speaker 6: Ye we want to make their life worthy. It's I mean,

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Speaker 6: they shouldn't be ignored at all. I agree everything I

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Speaker 6: should not be ignored.

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Speaker 1: Get weepy eyed thinking of my father dealing with some

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Speaker 1: of the same things that you're talking about every time

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Speaker 1: you come on the program. Roger Patty, thank thank you

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Speaker 1: for all the work that you're doing, and that it's volunteer, unpaid.

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Speaker 1: It's just a real beautiful thing. You are doing God's

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Speaker 1: work as I mentioned before, and helping seniors out in

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Speaker 1: the community. Folks, it's hard. Number four seniors dot Org.

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Speaker 1: Check it all out, call them up. They'll be happy

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Speaker 1: to talk with you about the technology, the acquiring the watch,

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Speaker 1: and everything you might need. Five on three four four four,

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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. Five on three four four four twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 1: Patti Rogers, God bless you both for being there. No,

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Speaker 1: thank you out there and the work that you're doing,

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Speaker 1: and obviously I'm so pleased to be able to tell

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Speaker 1: people about it. It's just great. Great.

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Speaker 6: You have been so consistent with us, and I will

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Speaker 6: tell you you're so respected by so many of these seniors

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Speaker 6: and your love. You are completely loved and the family members.

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Speaker 6: You're a resource, So thank you for the support you've

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Speaker 6: given us.

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Speaker 1: I'm more than pleased to do it, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: looking for any love or adulation or anything. I've loved

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Speaker 1: being able to bring this to people's attention. It's one

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Speaker 1: of the beauties of being able to come to work

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Speaker 1: here every day. Thank you again, and thanks for spending

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Speaker 1: time here this morning and educating all of us. It's

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Speaker 1: eight forty eight fifty five KRC DE Talk station. Come back,

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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes left and then we'll move on

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Speaker 1: with our weekend.

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Speaker 3: I'll be right back, fifty five KRC Sex