1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: We're getting a lot of reaction to the Broncos game yesterday. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 2: Obviously will probably. 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Spend I mean, this is gonna it's gonna last there 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: for for Broncos fans for a little while, so I 5 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: imagine we'll have some stuff over the course of the week. 6 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: The Broncos are still gonna have their season ending press conference. 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: Sean Payton. 8 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: I don't know if George will talk, but I know 9 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: Shawn will definitely do some kind of sit down with 10 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: the media at some point. 11 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 2: We'll obviously have some sound from that. 12 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: The Broncos players today had open locker room there as 13 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: they're cleaning things out. There was an interesting moment with 14 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: Drake Greenlaw. We were talking about a day during one 15 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: of the breaks because ye he was asked about learning 16 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: this defensive playbook and here's what he said. 17 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just two different personality coaches. You know, 18 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: Shawn's old school. You know you're gonna do six days 19 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: on one day off, and I mean, he got his 20 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: way of doing things. You're gonna be practicing three hours 21 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: on Wednesday, three hours on Friday. 22 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: Man. 23 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: I mean, Shannon's he's completely opposite, you know, and he's 24 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: more of a he wants you fresh, you know what 25 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: I mean. So you know, it's just two completely different 26 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 3: mindsets and they both have their way of doing things 27 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: and it's for good reasons too, so but you know, 28 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: just having that understanding of things, understanding of the defense. 29 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: I mean that was you know, like freaking Spanish. 30 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: When I first saw it, I thought I was like 31 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: on the you know, knew exactly, you know, just defense, 32 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: you know, and then you go into a completely different 33 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: defense that you've never seen before. And yeah, so I 34 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: mean it was it was just ups and downs the 35 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:35,279 Speaker 3: whole season. 36 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: But you know, I feel comfortable about you know, the 37 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 2: growth that I did make. 38 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 3: And uh yeah and the stuff that I did take. 39 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: So I mean, I'll be I'm gonna be excited this 40 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: off season just to you know, pick a back up 41 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: on that. 42 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting quote there. 43 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm talking about felt like learning Spanish y'all talked about. 44 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: With Sean Payton. Now it's see six days on one 45 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: day off. No, no, I want to see if I 46 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: got that. Yeah, Yeah, that's right. Yeah, he said six 47 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: days on one day off. He's got his way of 48 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: doing things. 49 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: You're going to be practicing three hours on Wednesday, three 50 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: hours on Friday, Shannan he's the koleeat opposite. 51 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: So was the reaction to that. 52 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 4: Well, I think Dre is the hell of a player, 53 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 4: I really do now. 54 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: He was hurt. 55 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 4: He came here with a history of injuries and unfortunately 56 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 4: he wasn't able to escape that notion this year. And 57 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 4: it's tough, you know, when you have soft tissue injury. 58 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 4: And this is the guy that Tory's achilles in the 59 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 4: super Bowl. And I think once you do that at 60 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 4: times the rest of your body, it takes a minute 61 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: and it's always a little dicey. I don't even know 62 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 4: from a medical standpoint if I could quantify that or not. 63 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 4: I just know that I've I've seen stuff like that happen. 64 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 4: I think Dre battled through as best he could. However, 65 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 4: I think if he wants to come back here, and 66 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 4: I don't know that he doesn't, I don't know that 67 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 4: he does the day after a really disappointing loss, and 68 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 4: I think he was answering a question. So no fault 69 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: of his, but it could be interpreted by some that 70 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 4: he enjoyed the Shanahan system more than the Petent system. 71 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: I think when you start comparing and maybe he was asked, hey, 72 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 4: what's the biggest difference. I think it is hard for 73 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 4: young players, veteran players, whomever, at times when you've been 74 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 4: somewhere in a system and now you go somewhere else 75 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 4: and it's a new system. I mean, I got traded 76 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 4: going into my last year in the league and had 77 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 4: to pick up a system that was completely backwards of 78 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 4: any system that I had ever had in the NFL. Right, normally, 79 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: even numbers are the right, odd numbers are to left. 80 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 4: I've at ninety five percent of the running game, and 81 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 4: at times passing stuff falls into that heading. Here in Denver, 82 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 4: it was the opposite when I got here, So I 83 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: mean it took me. You just don't feel comfortable. You're 84 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 4: having to process stuff as you leave the huddle, and 85 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 4: you're lining up on the wrong side of the ball 86 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 4: more than you would like to, which is about once. 87 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 4: So I think for Dre to say, you know, three 88 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 4: six days on one day off, you're going to be 89 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 4: practicing three hours on Wednesday, three hours on Friday with 90 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 4: Peyton Shanahan was just the opposite. And then the thing 91 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 4: that he said about Shanahan wants to keep these players fresh. 92 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 4: I don't know, man. I mean that's and I'm not 93 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 4: saying he's wrong or right. I'm not a player, but 94 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 4: I think to say that I could see where it 95 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 4: would irritate a couple of people at the facility. 96 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: I'm just being real about it. 97 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 5: I can see that as well. And I have experience 98 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 5: with both sides of the spectrum. I only played for 99 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 5: Mike Shanahan, but also worked for the forty nine ers 100 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 5: under Kyle Shanahan, and it was one of those types 101 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 5: of situations that I was quite familiar with, especially going 102 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 5: back to my days when I was with Bill Parcells. 103 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 5: There was a game that we were playing the Baltimore Ravens. 104 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 5: It was like, I think week seventeen, and this was 105 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 5: kind of bizarre. 106 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 6: I mean it was cold, like it is outside. 107 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 5: Right now, and I remember being a young player and 108 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 5: we were doing live go line week seventeen. 109 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 6: I didn't know any better as a young player, like, 110 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 6: I guess this is what you do. 111 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 5: So when I went to other places, when I came here, 112 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 5: I was like, man. 113 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 6: This is totally different. 114 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 5: Now. That's not to say that I didn't learn anything 115 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 5: from my time with Bill Parcells, but it was like, 116 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 5: you're going to be tough, this is what the game is, 117 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 5: and playing New New York. The idea is that we 118 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 5: had a bubble, we had an indoor practice facife. 119 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 6: I can see it when we walked out to practice. 120 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 5: Now have you asked me how many times we actually 121 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 5: practice in it? I'm gonna tell you zero, because in 122 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 5: his mindset was like you playing amblements, so you're gonna 123 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 5: have to practice in these same elements. So I can 124 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 5: understand that because that is the school of thought that 125 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 5: Sean Payton comes from. And I don't think gray Drake 126 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 5: Greenlaw was saying anything negative about either the defense or 127 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 5: coach Peyton. 128 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 6: He was just just talking about the different parallels. 129 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 4: And Tilly said that Shanahan likes to keep his players fresh. Okay, well, 130 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 4: I mean be real about you, okay, you know, so to. 131 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 5: Say and that part of it, it only takes some 132 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 5: of what he started to say and takes it to 133 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 5: a whole different, different level. 134 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 4: And I'm not begrudging the fact that that Dre thinks 135 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 4: that or actually said it. I'm just telling you what 136 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 4: I what I would perceive as how that might be 137 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: received by those in control here in Denver and this 138 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 4: off a season now that dre was he had a 139 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 4: hard time staying on the field with injuries, So I 140 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 4: just would have I probably and I've only met Drake 141 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 4: Greenwell one time. Likable dude. I love the way he 142 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: plays energy wise. But if I were advising him prior 143 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 4: to that event and I knew kind of what he 144 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: was thinking, I would have said, hey, listen, listen, bro 145 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: day after the most disappointing loss in the last ten 146 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 4: years in this franchise, if somebody tries to get you 147 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 4: into like comparing San Francisco and Denver, stick to Denver. Hey, 148 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 4: you know, I don't know this for sure, so. 149 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 5: I don't want anyone to think that I'm making any 150 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 5: justifications for him. But in his mind, he just thought 151 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 5: he was doing a quick compare a contract, not knowing 152 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 5: as though maybe he was stepping his foot into a 153 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 5: situation that someone can actually throw on social media. And 154 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 5: now it becomes a topic of conversation because if I'm 155 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 5: not mistaken, in the last part of the audio, he 156 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 5: still kind of said, you know, almost made it seem 157 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 5: as though he loved being here. 158 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, yeah, And I'm not saying he didn't or doesn't, 159 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: And I have no indication that Dre will not be back. 160 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I think dra Greenlaw they can stay healthy 161 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 4: is a big plus for the Broncos defense. 162 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a huge plus. 163 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 5: But this is one of those things where as a 164 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 5: player you're closing out the season is a very emotional 165 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 5: time of the year. You have to think and be 166 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 5: positive about what it is that you say because one 167 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 5: thing you say and this misc has proved the wrong way, 168 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 5: and especially with everyone in the building is upset. 169 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 6: It now blows up and now it turns into something 170 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 6: that it shouldn't On. 171 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: The text line question for Dave do you bring Dobbins back? 172 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: He obviously was a difference maker, but there's no chance 173 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: he plays seventeen games and Harvey's already on the roster 174 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: next year. 175 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 4: I'm a big Dobbins guy, and I've been a big guy, 176 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 4: says training Camp. I think he is a pros pro. 177 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 4: I think he gets it. I think he's able to 178 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 4: pick up tough yards. He's explosive enough that he can 179 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 4: hit you for chunk yards. He'd be hard for me 180 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 4: to turn away. Now, I don't know what he's going 181 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 4: to ask for. I don't know any of the financial considerations. 182 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 4: But if he decides to go elsewhere, or the Broncos 183 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 4: decide ay he's asking for too much money, or they 184 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 4: don't want to offer whatever. Then I would ask you, 185 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 4: what's the running back room look like next year? Are 186 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 4: you comfortable going in with R? J. Harvey, Julia McLoughlin, 187 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 4: and Tyler Badet. That's a noe for me, that would 188 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 4: be a note for me. And I think Harvey, I 189 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 4: mean Harvey had what close to I think he had 190 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 4: forty seven catches. I mean, really good receiver out of 191 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 4: the backfield. I thought he'd get better as he ran 192 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 4: the ball, showed a little more patience. But Dobbins, I 193 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 4: mean Dobbins is just a grown ass man. That's just 194 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 4: how I would describe him. That's how he looks. He 195 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: looks different than all the other running backs. He runs 196 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 4: different than the running backs. Yeah, I'm just a huge 197 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 4: Dobbins fan. Let me throw this out to. 198 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 5: You guys, since we're talking about the running back position. Hey, 199 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 5: if I'm not mistaken, I think maybe Breesell and Travis 200 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 5: etn those guys are going to be free agents this year. Correct, 201 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 5: What would either of those guys entice you? And if 202 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 5: they either of those guys do. Would you be willing 203 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 5: to pay them handsomely to come. 204 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: Here, Ryan or I an e. 205 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: I I'd be a little hesitant if you're if you're 206 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: considering Dobbins that I'd probably add somebody in the draft 207 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: like that'd be my No. 208 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 6: No, you're not considering Dobbins at all. 209 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: Okay, So if you're Dobbins off the table or just 210 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: we're just moving on, then then yeah, I think you 211 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: want to have a vet And in that point, those 212 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: are two of those are two of the best that 213 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: are gonna be available. I'm a really big Eten fan. 214 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about it when the Broncos was 215 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: gonna play Jacksonville. 216 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: Uh. I think his his contact balance is incredible. 217 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean both of them, really, but both plus receivers 218 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: at the backfield, both great and pass pro. I wonder 219 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: because this is what the relative age is. 220 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 4: I don't know if Breese Hall, I'm not sure I 221 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 4: would say he's great in pass pro. 222 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 5: Okay, but etn is yept is twenty seven twenty four. 223 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: Okay, Oh really, I know? Was that big a difference? Okay? 224 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: My first thought was like, I like et and better 225 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: m hm, but both of guys are gonna are gonna 226 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: command a pretty significant payday. 227 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: Okay they are. 228 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 5: Let mean, let me toss another guy out there who 229 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 5: was highly productive, who may not cost that much, but 230 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 5: he is the type of running back that inside outside 231 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 5: runner and he catches the ball well out out of the backfield. 232 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 5: Caldin the Panther is Rico Dow. 233 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: He'll yeah, he'll probably get a little less than those guys. 234 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: I mean, guess. 235 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 6: Right right, because you're all into a budget. 236 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got thirty five million. 237 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 5: Yes, because Russell Willdon's off the books. 238 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 6: Yeah, so you got the money to spend. The question is, 239 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 6: well you spend it. 240 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: How would you rank those three days? 241 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 6: Etn, Rico Doll and Brisl. 242 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 4: I haven't seen I haven't seen enough of the Carolina 243 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 4: Panthers player. 244 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: Rico doubt is now Dell right yeah with the with 245 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: the Cowboys. Yeah, good speed back. 246 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 4: I will say bres Hall I would take again, we're 247 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 4: playing with somebody else's money. You know how much is 248 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 4: he going to ask for all this stuff? But just 249 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 4: on face value, looking at the player, I think Brice 250 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 4: Hall is an excellent, excellent running back. I feel the 251 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 4: same thing about Travis Atn. I think atm may have 252 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 4: may have a gear that Hall does not have. Both 253 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 4: of them can run. I mean, both of them have 254 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 4: been productive players. So I wouldn't if either guy if 255 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 4: the Dobbins thing fell through and the Broncos just announced 256 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 4: whenever when whenever free agency becomes the thaying, hey, we've 257 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 4: signed either one of those two guys, I would be 258 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 4: applotting and feel pretty good of it. 259 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I'm trying to decide if I'd like because 260 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: I did think that r J. Harvey, to your point, 261 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: got better as the year went on. He's gonna have 262 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: a big role. Like whatever happens with the other running backs. 263 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: R J. 264 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: Harvey's gonna have a role this next year. It's more 265 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: about what do you want a the room to look like, 266 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: and then be who is the kind of the the 267 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: first down, second down running back. 268 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: So like JK. Dobbins, RJ. 269 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: Harvey was a great compliment to him, but Jk's got 270 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: to be the physical runner and you certainly missed that yesterday. 271 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: So if you're gonna tell me, you bring Jack JK. 272 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: Dobbins on a three million dollars one year contract with incentives, 273 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: r J. Harvey, and then you add somebody in the draft. 274 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: I don't hate that plan, I really don't. I just 275 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: want to have another body in that room, and it's 276 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: got to be different than Jaliel and then snow Offence 277 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: because I like both of those players, Julie and Tyler Beday. 278 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: You just saw the limitations really show up towards the 279 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: end of the season, that's all. 280 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 5: I would definitely agree that you have to do something 281 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 5: in that room. And it's not for me being a 282 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 5: defensive guy. It's not just changing and giving the running 283 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 5: back room a facelift. I mean you're gonna have to 284 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 5: give your entire run game of facelift. And what I 285 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 5: mean by that incorporate some different run plays. We didn't 286 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 5: see this season with the Dinver Broncos where you pulled 287 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 5: either guard Quinn minors or beIN powers and getting those 288 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 5: guys out in front. There was not a lot of 289 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 5: pin and pull situation. What I mean by that, you 290 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 5: are pulling that guard around, you get in a receiver, 291 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 5: he's smashing down, and you getting outside on the toss. 292 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 5: What we did see of some kind of manufactured runs 293 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 5: where you're throwing the ball to the running backs either 294 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 5: they're running an arrow route or they're running. 295 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: A swing route to me. 296 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 5: At some point the face schemes were starting to pick 297 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 5: up on that. You need to be able to block 298 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 5: the guy in front of you, totally destroy him. 299 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: Right So if the. 300 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 5: Broncos ever get into a fourth and short situation, we 301 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 5: don't have to worry about running a bootleg. 302 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 6: That becomes a change up. 303 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 5: You know that right now you got to back in 304 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 5: the back field that you can load up, set them 305 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 5: up firon boot first down, move the chains. 306 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 6: That's where this team needs to go. 307 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 5: You can bring in any back you want to, but 308 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 5: if you're not getting that consistent front push, it doesn't 309 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 5: make a difference. You can have Roger Craig back there, 310 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 5: Tom Rathman not gonna make a difference. 311 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a quick one on this, because 312 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: I saw some Broncos fans talking about Jotty Baron only 313 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: playing five snaps in this game, and I think he 314 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: only played around five snaps, maybe around that number against 315 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. There were some Ronco fans that really 316 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: wanted tomorrow Anton. They're a pick number twenty. Do you 317 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: feel a certain way of out that or is this 318 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: hey is a long term development with Jade barn whatever 319 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: he got, we got out of him. This year was 320 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: icing on the cake because you saw j Mack step 321 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: up into a much large role. He played phenomenal this year. 322 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm not down about the pick whatsoever. Which side of 323 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: that you come down on. 324 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 4: I think Jadda barn will be a good player. I 325 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 4: think it just this year. I think Jakewuan McMillan just 326 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 4: really locked that position down and made enough plays on 327 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 4: a defense that until recently didn't have a lot of 328 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: guys making game changing plays as good as they were 329 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 4: on defense. So I wouldn't I wouldn't grade Johddy Baron 330 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 4: in his rookie season and conclude, like, okay, first run 331 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 4: draft choice and he's only getting five snaps a game 332 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 4: that that can happen in the first year. Now next year, 333 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 4: if he's not in the rotation he's just kind of 334 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 4: a kind of a guy, then yeah, I would step 335 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 4: back and say, well, hmm, wonder what's going on there 336 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 4: because he was a first round, first round draft choice. 337 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 4: Hampton I don't think showed. I think Omarion Hampton can 338 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 4: be a good player. He's stout watched him some before 339 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 4: he got the injury. I'm not absolutely convinced that I 340 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 4: see a special back. I see a good, hard running, 341 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 4: competent NFL player, And you can win with those guys, 342 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 4: you really can. But I think if you take a 343 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 4: running back in the first round, to me, he's got 344 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 4: to be a guy that is going to be And 345 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 4: I'll grade O'marion Hampton the same way it did Jadde Barron. Right, 346 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 4: it was his rookie season, so you got to figure out, 347 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 4: you know, blocking schemes, you got to figure out speed 348 00:17:58,359 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 4: of the game, you got there's a lot of things 349 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 4: you figure out. Both those players are going to be 350 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 4: better their second year. But I think if you take 351 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 4: a running back in the first round, he's got to 352 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 4: be a special player. 353 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 6: Here's the other part about that too as well. 354 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 5: When you think about the running back position, it is 355 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 5: definitely a dependent position. 356 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 6: You're dependent on scheme execution. 357 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 5: But also more importantly that offensive line in front of 358 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 5: you actually giving you an opportunity to succeed being on 359 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 5: the defensive side of the ball. 360 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 6: It always goes back to what your lover of production is. 361 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 5: And if there's any Broncos fan that seemingly to be 362 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 5: upset because they would have preferred a Mario and Hampton. 363 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 6: I say, give us some time, give us some time. 364 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 5: We saw Johnny Barron make some plays this season, and 365 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 5: like Dave mentioned, and you said to yourself, Jakual McMillan 366 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 5: came in, he makes some plays. And I know when 367 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 5: we did the draft, that's exactly what everyone thought. Okay, 368 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 5: whoo Johnny Barron. You know he's in. Jakwa McMillan is out. 369 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 5: But jakwalm was like, no, I'm not giving up the spot. 370 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 5: So now you have adequate depth and he's going to 371 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 5: be much better next season. And I know when people start, 372 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 5: when you get to this point of the season, your 373 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 5: team is not in the Super Bowl, you start picking 374 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 5: and choosing and going back. 375 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 6: And if we had this guy. 376 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 2: Don't do that very sure. 377 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 6: All you're gonna do is upset yourself. 378 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 5: Look at the player that you have and say, well, 379 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 5: they show Bible potential. And we did see Jaddy Barron 380 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 5: getting games. And I go back to his first interception 381 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 5: against it was the Cowboys on Jake Ferguson. That was 382 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 5: the hell of a play for a young guy to me, 383 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 5: So there's some value there for Jahddy Baron. So let's 384 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 5: not get into this tit for tat? Where we're now 385 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 5: starting trying to compare rosters and say, well, we should 386 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 5: have took this guy instead of this, don't do that. 387 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 4: Where did tit for tat come from? I hate to 388 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 4: interrupt this t for tat whatever this is? Yeah, where 389 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 4: did the phrase tit for tat? Is it tit for tat? 390 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 4: I'm thinking it came from a farmer as he was 391 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 4: milking his cow. I think you might be right. I'm 392 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 4: right out here you are googling, don't you know? 393 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: Well, I know what it means, but I just I'm 394 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: trying to see where it came from from the origin. 395 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, who first thought that would be kind 396 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 4: of an interesting phrase around dinner? 397 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 6: Well, either if either. 398 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 5: Is going to be a farmer who's moking his cow 399 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 5: or someone at the shoe. 400 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: Model club says, tip for tad originated in the mid 401 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: sixteenth century. 402 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: Good, got it. We're still using it. 403 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: As a variation of the earlier phrase tip for tap, 404 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: which meant blow for blow. 405 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: So there you go. 406 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 4: Doesn't say much, so where did tip for tatt come? 407 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: Fry? 408 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: It describes an equivalent retaliatory exchange for actions or insults 409 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: with John Haywood being the first to record the phrase 410 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: in fifteen forty six. 411 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 6: That sounds like something that happened at Irish Public. 412 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: You thought, what's his name, John Hayford, John Haywood? 413 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: Hey? 414 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 4: Do you think John Heywood's asked ever had an idea 415 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 4: that he'd be talking about tip for tad in fifteen 416 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 4: forty six and this show in twenty twenty six would 417 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 4: have just googled them and now brought him up. I 418 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 4: mean seriously, so I just stopped. How many years is that? 419 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 2: How many years? What is that? Fifty? What is it? 420 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: What you would six? Fifteen forty six? So how many. 421 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 4: Almost five hundred, five hundred, well fifteen forty six. 422 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, because there were twenty twenty six? Are we? Yes? 423 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 2: We are? 424 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 6: We are? Unless you know something that's this is some 425 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 6: ultimate reality, I say. 426 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: But what I say? Is that all right? 427 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 4: You said fifteen forty six? Yeah, so five hundred years 428 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 4: am I am? I So five hundred years from now 429 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 4: would be what year. 430 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: Twenty five? I don't know something, Wait, what twenty five? 431 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: One of the years it may be. 432 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 4: It'd be twenty five twenty six, wouldn't it. 433 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, Yeah, So. 434 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 4: In the year twenty five twenty six. I'm assuming none 435 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 4: of us are going to be here. Do you think 436 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 4: if they have dumbass talk shows like this in twenty 437 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 4: five twenty six, that Huey, Dewey and Louie wherever on 438 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 4: a spaceship somewhere, We'll go back and google our show 439 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 4: was something that we've said ever and say, you know, 440 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 4: remember when Ryan and Dave. 441 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: When Dave was talking about the pooter hole? 442 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 4: No, no, that was Nick talking about the potter hole. 443 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 6: No, you said, and I just said, I'd never heard 444 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 6: it before. 445 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 4: Well, okay, do you think in twenty five twenty six, 446 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 4: the Martians doing the show, we'll be talking about Nick, 447 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 4: Ryan and Dave talking about. 448 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: A pooter hole like GTSI No. 449 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 6: No, no, no, no. 450 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 2: We're talking about a cat fifteen forty six. 451 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 5: But what we needed to find the origin from tip 452 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 5: from tat. We need to find the origin of it. 453 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: We said tit for tat. 454 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 4: Yes, So we found out that the origin is tip 455 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 4: tip for tap tap and now or cap it. 456 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: Is tap tap? Yes, like tap that? 457 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 6: Yes, like I did I tapped that? 458 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 2: Yeah? So but how did it go from that to 459 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 2: tit for tat? 460 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 6: You know what? 461 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 5: Someone probably said it misheard it and repeated it to 462 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 5: someone else. 463 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 6: That's a lot of these words take place. 464 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 2: I Robard joins us next Ian, Good afternoon, sir. How 465 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 2: were you? 466 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 7: What's going on? How were you? 467 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 2: We're We're doing We're doing fine in. 468 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 4: Not really with the way the game turned out yesterday 469 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 4: from Afar. As you watch that, I'm assuming you watched 470 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 4: that game, what what couple of thoughts jump into your mind? 471 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 4: And I want to ask you specifically about some of 472 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 4: the some of the calls in the game. How how 473 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 4: when you watch that game, did they like you at 474 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 4: the moment as being like, hmmm, I wonder what's going 475 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 4: on here? 476 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 5: Uh? 477 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 7: Okay, Well, first of all, I feel like, I mean, look, 478 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 7: the Broncos lost, and it's a sort of bitter end 479 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 7: to an amazing season, and you know that's the result. 480 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 7: But I do feel a small bit cheated because I 481 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 7: really would have liked to know what would have happened, 482 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 7: Like if bo Nicks was healthy and available, what would 483 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 7: it have been like if you know, if there was 484 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 7: no and I know everybody played in the snow, but 485 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 7: if there was no snow in the second half, what 486 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 7: would it have been like? Like I sort of get 487 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 7: it and it's the reality, and it is what it is. 488 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 7: But I'm still left a little bit kind of wondering 489 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 7: what might have been, you know, which is to take 490 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 7: nothing away from the Patriots at all. It's just you 491 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 7: sort of want everyone to be able to play with 492 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 7: a fully even everything and then see what happens at 493 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 7: the end. And I'm not like one hundred percent sure 494 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 7: that we got that. 495 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 5: Well, you and I want to jump into the coaching 496 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 5: carousel because a lot of jobs have been filled. There 497 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 5: were like ten jobs and those jobs went pretty quick. 498 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 5: And Davis Web, I mean, he's still getting these interviews. 499 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 5: I think he's just most recently interviewed with the Buffalo Bills, 500 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 5: and I would find out what's going on with Web, 501 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 5: but more importantly, Vance Joseph. Will he be back here 502 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 5: in Denver? Do you expect for him to get one 503 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 5: of these vacant jobs. 504 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, first on the Davis Web situation. You know, 505 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 7: he's going to interview with Las Vegas Raiders that I 506 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 7: believe is going to be tonight into tomorrow. You know, 507 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 7: I would consider him a strong candidate there. I certainly would. 508 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 7: It's an in person interview, and you know, we'll see 509 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 7: what happened. But I know there's a lot to like. 510 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 7: He is a good leader, he's sort of a dynamic 511 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 7: type person, and you know, I would not be totally 512 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 7: surprised he ended up as the head coach of Las 513 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 7: Vegas Raiders. As far as vance, you know, he's want 514 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 7: the best coordinators in the NFL. He did a great 515 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 7: job yesterday, as he always does. And I just haven't 516 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 7: really heard any traction for his name for head coaching jobs. 517 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 7: And I'm you know, I've done this fourteen or so years. 518 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 7: Every search is a little different. This is one where 519 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 7: I'm really not sure why he hasn't gained much traction. 520 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 7: You know, I thought, you know, another one where like 521 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 7: during his tenure when he was the Denver Broncos head coach, 522 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 7: I would have really liked to see what would have 523 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 7: happened with a decent quarterback and a general manager that 524 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 7: was probably better served for him. And we're never going 525 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 7: to find out. But I just haven't really heard his 526 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 7: name get any traction in head coaching world unfortunately. 527 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 2: Ian. 528 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 1: What is your assessment of not only what the Broncos 529 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: were able to accomplish this season, but what they might 530 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: look like going into next year. 531 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 7: Well, I mean, you know, it was amazing what they 532 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 7: were able to accomplish this year. I mean, I think 533 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 7: you guys probably know I was pretty impressed. I was 534 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 7: impressed last year. I was depressed this year. It is 535 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 7: a team that has coached impactably well, plays above its talent. 536 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 7: I think a defensive place where its talent is because 537 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 7: they are very talented, be very good. 538 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 5: You know. 539 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 7: But also there's a bunch of players that you probably 540 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 7: haven't heard of who are just really really good and 541 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 7: you know, really played themselves intei their big money contracts 542 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 7: this year. Weinberg is the name that comes to mind. 543 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 7: Roach is another one. It's just like a really good, 544 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 7: well coached team that I think is a really bright future. 545 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 7: And you know, I think money wise, they're firing russ 546 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 7: Is coming off the books finally this year, like they'll 547 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 7: be able to spend, They'll be able to beep up 548 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 7: some talent, Like I think this Denver Broncos team should 549 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 7: be around for quite a while. 550 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: Jack with Ian Rapport last one for me, So you 551 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: mentioned Davis Webb as a strong candidate for the Raiders, 552 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: but he did interview with the Bills today. 553 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 2: You think they're going in a different direction. 554 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: Well, I just you know, the way these. 555 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 7: Things play out can sometimes play a part in you know, 556 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 7: who goes where. So he did a zoom interview with 557 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 7: the Bills, and obviously they've had him, they know him 558 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 7: and all that, but it was justice zoom and he's 559 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 7: in person with the Raiders. The Raiders have waited, you know, 560 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 7: three weeks to really sit down with him. You know, 561 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 7: there probably also can be more aggressive because they have 562 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 7: waited a very long time to hire someone, whereas you know, 563 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 7: the Buffalo Bills have only waited a couple of weeks, 564 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 7: and the little searches a little more in its earlier stages. 565 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 7: That's just sort of my feel on things. I'm not 566 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 7: saying that, you know, I'm not saying that it's gonna happen, 567 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 7: but certainly I wouldn't be surprised. 568 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: If it did. 569 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 6: So. 570 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 5: Once again, we have our finals too in the Super Bowl, 571 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 5: the Patriots and the Seattle Seahawks. And when we think 572 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 5: about the two quarterbacks, they couldn't be any different. But 573 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 5: for Sam Donald, a guy who was ostracized and he's 574 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 5: jumped around from. 575 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 6: Team to team, what do you think it's like for him? 576 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 5: In your evaluation of him at this particular point, knowing 577 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 5: as though there are other quarterbacks in the same draft class, 578 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 5: but he beat them to the finish line and making 579 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 5: it to the Super Bowl. 580 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 7: I think it's pretty cool, being totally honest, I am 581 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 7: fascinated by quarterback arcs in the NFL, which means, like, 582 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 7: you know, players who come in, they're highly towned, they're 583 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 7: highly drafted, they struggle early, and everyone knows for sure 584 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 7: they're a bust, and then they kind of move on 585 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 7: and they bounce around, and then what you learn is 586 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 7: they're not a bust. They just weren't quite ready yet, 587 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 7: you know, the Sam Donalds and the Baker Mayfield and 588 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 7: the Gino Smith before this year. I just it's a 589 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 7: really really intriguing thing about the NFL, for the guys 590 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 7: who never really give up and keep grinding and kind 591 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 7: of keep reinventing themselves. And it's like, sorry, we all 592 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 7: sort of decided because of what the evidence showed that 593 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 7: you know, Donald was someone who in big games just 594 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 7: didn't play well enough. And man, I don't know about that. 595 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 7: Quit pretty freaking well yesterday and we'll see how it 596 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 7: is in the super Bowl. But he's in the Super Bowl. 597 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 7: So I think it's really cool for him. I don't 598 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 7: really know that he's the kind of guy that says 599 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 7: like I told Jascus to be honest, I don't think 600 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 7: he really cares. But for me, it's been really interesting 601 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 7: to watch, you know, a little bit of a sort 602 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 7: of redemption story or just a just a really cool 603 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 7: full circle success story for a guy who's a pretty 604 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 7: good guy in the NFL. 605 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: Are you so you're down in Mobile this week? Ian? 606 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, I just yeah, I just landed. I'm driving to 607 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 7: my hotel. Now I'm gonna learn some of these college players, 608 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 7: which you know, get to the NFL season is like, 609 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 7: all right, well who are all these guys? And you know, 610 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 7: usually it's sort of time to relax a little bit, 611 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 7: but everybody needs a head coach four teams still. I 612 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 7: know you mentioned it's felt like it's been quick. Not 613 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,239 Speaker 7: to me, it feels I could take it forever. So 614 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 7: we still got four more to go, so it's throwing 615 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 7: to be some work here as well. 616 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: No doubt we'll enjoy more Mobile, enjoy the food. I 617 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: love being down there, especially for that, so definitely enjoy that. 618 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: Get some of that tonight, all right, Ian, have a 619 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: great night. Thank you so much for the time. We'll 620 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: chat with you next week. 621 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 7: Okay, look forward to it. 622 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 2: Take care of Thanks and Rappaport network. 623 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 4: And don't take good vegan options in Mobile, Alabama. 624 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: Hell no, not particularly. No, the fish though, the fish 625 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: and the shrimp. Yes, you gotta go pescatarian down fish. Yeah, 626 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: I can eat I go fish. 627 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 628 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, they got the oysters. 629 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: Oh you eat oysters? 630 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 631 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: Cook the raw I like cooked, preferred. Okay, but some 632 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: people like, what are you, Dave cooked a raw? I 633 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: I don't do that, like at all. I don't eat 634 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: sushi either. Really, what else? Don't you eat a lot 635 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: of things? Dave already known? I don't know if we 636 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: have we already know. We got plenty of time for 637 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: that some of the things, and maybe not on the menu. 638 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: You must not know, you must exactly right. And that's 639 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: universally secret movement. Good lord, you know what a shoe 640 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: model is? 641 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: It's a model, the worst model shoes. You know what 642 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:16,479 Speaker 2: I mean? 643 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: Hit? 644 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 2: How many times you think I've been hit? 645 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 6: Okay? 646 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 2: Well, do I know what a shoe model? I like, 647 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: you asked that like earnestly, do you know what a 648 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 2: shoe model? Is Dave, like you asked me the question 649 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 2: if Sean knew. 650 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 4: On the fourth and one that they weren't going to 651 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 4: be in position to score another point in. 652 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: The game, but it changes. I had a point to that, Okay, 653 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 2: what was it? 654 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: My point is is I think that does influence you 655 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: to be more aggressive? 656 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 2: Wait? 657 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 4: Wait, I'm trying to I swear to baby Jesus, I'm 658 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 4: trying to follow this line of thinking. So you think 659 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 4: it influence what? 660 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: What influences I'm saying if he knew that that was 661 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: his last time that fourth and one. 662 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 4: Was Okay, stop, let me ask you this. How in 663 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 4: God's green Earth would Sean Payton know with nine minutes 664 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 4: left in the second quarter that that was going to 665 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 4: be his last legitimate time to score at the time machine. 666 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: Wait, because the weather forecast the poem we talked about, Okay, 667 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: it didn't hit till after half halftime. That's right, nine 668 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: minutes to go. But you also have a backup quarterback 669 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,239 Speaker 1: in there. You are limited a little bit in what 670 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: you're being able to do. Now, at that point, they 671 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: had tilted the field, the offense had been having success. 672 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: But if you are projecting into the second half and 673 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: knowing that it's going to be tough to move the ball, 674 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: saying this might be our best chance to put this 675 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: thing away. Then I'm I'm uber aggressive under those circumstances. 676 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 2: That's kind of put it even you. 677 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 4: You you weren't salad me to death. And I'm not 678 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 4: even sure you as it was coming out of your 679 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 4: pie hole made sense to your brain. 680 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not sure. 681 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 4: Look at me and smile if it didn't make sense, Okay, it. 682 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: Made a lot of sense to me. That's how it 683 00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 2: made a lot of sense to me. 684 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: But I understand under the circumstances how my logic sometimes 685 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: doesn't quite click. 686 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: I'm glad you. 687 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,479 Speaker 6: Called it your logic. 688 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, it made sense in you. You know what 689 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 5: it sounds like the guy sitting next to me, it's 690 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 5: not that he comes up. 691 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: With, I've been how's it going? What does he say? 692 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 2: A lot of stuff that science. 693 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 5: In his mind, it made sense, but when it came 694 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 5: out of his mouth was like, hmm, I don't know 695 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 5: about that. 696 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 2: Dog. I'm just asking you for an example, that's all. 697 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 6: There's a lot of things on social media, that's what 698 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 6: I hear. Yes, and then nobody ever comes back with receipts. 699 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 5: Is that true. 700 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 2: No, that's not true. You get a lot of receipts, 701 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: keep a lot of re seats. 702 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: Well again, I know, we'll continue to talk about it, Dave. I, 703 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: under the circumstances, you're right, nine twenty two, nine twenty 704 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: eight whatever remaining in the second quarter. At that point, 705 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: you're feeling like you're gonna have a few cracks. 706 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 2: You just don't you. Yes, you you don't have. I 707 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 2: mean you, you can't know. 708 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 4: For sure, obviously, whether you're gonna have I mean, but 709 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 4: I guarantee, I can't guarantee you. 710 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 2: I would think Sean. 711 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 4: At that point, it never crossed his mind like this 712 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 4: might be the last time we had the ability to 713 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 4: score best scoring chance. Based on how the offense had 714 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 4: moved the ball in the first quarter and a half, 715 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 4: analytics the masses go I probably would have taken the 716 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 4: field goal because two scorers, But Massa go. I would 717 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 4: only take the field goal in that case based on 718 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 4: two facts. My defense was playing great, and I've got 719 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 4: a backup quarterback playing for me. 720 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 2: That's all. 721 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: It was a two percent change in winning percentage. So 722 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: if they were to kick the field goal, here you 723 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: go with analytics just saying here you go, but the 724 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: Massas go trust your gut. 725 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 4: Also that play trus if they go up ten to nothing, 726 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 4: the question I think Sean would have in his mind 727 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 4: would be, I'm up ten nothing, can I is there 728 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 4: a way with Jared that we can score another touchdown? 729 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 4: And then just do the math. If the answer that's yes, 730 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 4: and I would conclude yes, then the Patriots have to 731 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 4: score seventeen points to tie the game, and they probably 732 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 4: wouldn't get into that. 733 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 2: I don't I really don't think so. And with that, 734 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 2: Grant's great job. 735 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: As always, what Ben, I'm worried we're not using the 736 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: same language translator on this secret menu. 737 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 2: No, no, we're no, we are okay, all right, we are, 738 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 2: we are. Okay. 739 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 4: White dudes have a different secret menu than may be others. 740 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, don't ways to hear you the first 741 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 2: half hour. 742 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 6: I want you to move everything out of the eight 743 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 6: blocking 744 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 2: Next