1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: It's nice eyes with Dan Ray. I'm telling you easy 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Boston's News Radio. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: All right, thanks very much, Dian Watkins. That's not good. 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 3: News from a little slow start here for the Red Sox. 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: But that's okay, no problem, no problem, all right. 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 3: Finally, finally TSA agents, after forty days, have been paid. 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: My understanding and if there are any ts agents out 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 3: there who were listening, mind is standing from watching some 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 3: of the newscasts over the last couple of days, the 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 3: President signed an executive order and basically there's a I 11 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: think there's at least one congressman from Connecticut, Congressman Hines, 12 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: who feels that it's unconstitutional. He was on CNN saying 13 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: that it's unconstitutional because that's the Congress has the power 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: of the purse. Well, yeah, it's it's just amazing to 15 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 3: think that in this country, where we've had such a 16 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: history of problems with airline disasters, nine to eleven comes 17 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 3: to mind. If those of you who might remember what 18 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 3: happened on nine to eleven, our collective memory here in 19 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: America is pretty short, a horrific day. It's out of 20 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 3: the nine to eleven that the Homeland Security and TSA. 21 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: Were were born. 22 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 3: If anyone remembers, and I think we should remember that 23 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: these people were asked to go to work. My question 24 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: he was, if you were told you had to come 25 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: into work, but you weren't going to get paid for 26 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: the first week, and then the second week, and the 27 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: third week, and then maybe the fourth week, at what 28 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: point would you. 29 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: Start calling in sick. 30 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: These TSA workers, they don't make a lot of money. 31 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: I'm told that their average salary is about forty thousand 32 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: dollars a year. I don't know if they make more 33 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: in if they live in a place like Boston or 34 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: New York than if they live somewhere in Wichita, Kansas, 35 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: or or Omaha, Nebraska. I don't know, but maybe if 36 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: some of you out there are TSA people, I'd love 37 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: to hear from you. I know that there have been 38 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: about five hundred TSA workers who have now decided that 39 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: they've had it. They decided to give up their jobs. 40 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 3: That's kind of sad, because I would think that one 41 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: of the things that TSA workers might be very proud of. 42 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: Maybe their salary is not the best in the world, 43 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: but they're helping keep American safe. 44 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: Now. 45 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: I have never minded a line at the airport. 46 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: Well, in some. 47 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 3: Minds, at the airport you don't like, but I never 48 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 3: minded TSA line because they knew that the people who 49 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 3: were working for TSA were doing the very best job 50 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 3: they could and to make sure that all of us 51 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: were safe. And I know that a lot of people 52 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 3: have trouble. You got to take your shoes off, or 53 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 3: maybe some days you don't take your shoes off. Whatever 54 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: it is. Look, it's one of those jobs that probably 55 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: they don't get a lot of kudos. I would hope 56 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: that most people when they go through would be at 57 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 3: a minimum polite and maybe even express a thank. 58 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: You for them. 59 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: Now, I know if you're doing that for eight hours 60 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: a day and people are asking us, say can I 61 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: keep my sweatshirt on? No, you have to take the 62 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: sweatshirt off. But the fiftieth time that you take your sweatshirt, 63 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: that you that you that you're. 64 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: Asked that question, you probably ill frustrated. 65 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: The other thing, too, of course, is that if it 66 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: were me, and if I was a TSA agent and 67 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: everybody else in line had taken off their sweaters or 68 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: their coats, and then when the person would come in 69 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: and said, do I have to take my coat off. 70 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: Can I take my sweatshirt? Do I have to take 71 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: my No, you're special. We had everybody else take their 72 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: sweatshirts and their coats off. But you're kind of a 73 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: special person, aren't you. 74 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: No, you're not take it off. I would lose my 75 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: I would lose my job quickly. 76 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 3: The bottom line is this Congress, and I don't care 77 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: what the cause is. Okay, Congress has passed all sorts 78 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 3: of important legislation, civil rights legislation over time at different 79 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: times in this country, and we've gotten through it. I 80 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 3: don't remember any other federal employee, and by the way, 81 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 3: a federal employees whose jobs are to keep the American 82 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: flying public safe and arguably keep the American public safe, 83 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 3: because there were people on nine to eleven, both at 84 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: the Pentagon and in New York City who were not 85 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: in airplanes. Airplanes struck the building. So it was not 86 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 3: people who were at thirty thousand feet who died. It 87 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 3: was people who were at ground level, whether they were 88 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: on the tenth floor or the twentieth floor, or the 89 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: second to third floor at the Pentomona, on the first floor. 90 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: So here's my solution, and I want to hear from 91 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 3: you if you've been out there and you have been traveling, 92 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 3: and I know I have a lot of you out 93 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: there who are traveling, if you've been through one of 94 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: these horrific lines that we've all seen places like Houston 95 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: and Atlanta. There seem to be some cities I guess 96 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: which are hub carrier hub cities like Atlanta and Houston 97 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: where the lines have been just ridiculously absurdly long. I'd 98 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 3: love to hear from you. How did you keep your 99 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 3: mind together? How did you How do you stand in 100 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: line for like four or five hours and not have 101 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: to like take a bathroom break? What do you do 102 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 3: think about it? 103 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 4: What? 104 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: Not only what the general public was put through by Congress, 105 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: but what the families of the TSA workers were put through. 106 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 3: I can just imagine someone's working eight hours at the airport, 107 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 3: dealing with knuckleheads who have to keep saying do I 108 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 3: have to take my. 109 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 2: Shirt off like the other people did? 110 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: No? 111 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 3: Yes, yes you do, sir, And then you go home 112 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: and maybe your spouse says to you, WHOA, we have 113 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: no money we were How am I going to buy? 114 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: How am I going to get the kids to school? 115 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 3: How are we going to go to buy? Groceries. This 116 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: is this is real problems for these people. So you 117 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 3: got the pressure at home, you got the pressure at work. 118 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: And about five hundred of them have said, in the 119 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: words of I forget who the singer was, take this 120 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 3: job and you know what the what the what the 121 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 3: lyrics are At bottom line is this, I want to 122 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: make a proposal, and I hope you'll agree with me, 123 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 3: and I'd love to hear from me as many as 124 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: possible in the future. And I don't know if Congress 125 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 3: has to pass it, but I would love to see 126 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 3: Congress pass it if they had the the hoots, but 127 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: a pass it in the future. Any federal shutdown that 128 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: occurs which interrupts the pay cycle for any federal worker, 129 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: whether they're in the military, whether they're civilian, whether they 130 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: work facing general public, or they work somewhere in control 131 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: towers or whatever, if they are not being paid, Congress's 132 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: pay will stop immediately until that shutdown situation is resolved. 133 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: This is not a partisan comment, because there are Republicans 134 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: and Democrats who who like to use and have in 135 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: the past used government shutdowns as a way to get 136 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: as a way to win their political points. You want 137 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 3: to win political points, and you want to inconvenience other 138 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: Americans and other Americans who are working for the federal 139 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: government just like you, not only you, but your entire staff. 140 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: Let me amended and say, the members of Congress and 141 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: their entire staff, they will lose their and immediately immediately, 142 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: their their pay cycle, their next pay cycle immediately, and 143 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: and they will only have their pay cycle renewed once 144 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: all the other members of the federal government again, whether 145 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: it's across the federal government as a whole, they get 146 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 3: they their money stops immediately, and their money is restored, 147 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: their paychecks are restored after all the other federal personnel 148 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: have their paychecks restored. That is a way in which 149 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: there will never be another government shut down because there's 150 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 3: no because Congress will work to make sure that they 151 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: do what they're supposed to do. 152 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 2: Look, we're we. 153 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: Are highly divided nation right now. Okay, Congress, it's what 154 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,599 Speaker 3: like three or four seats that the Republicans hold in 155 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: a majority. In the Senate. They have three Senate seats. 156 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: It's a little more comfortable, but there's three or four 157 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 3: Republican Senators who go off of the reservation frequently. Collins 158 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: in Maine and Murkowski uh in Alaska, Tillis in North Carolina. 159 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: They are just as likely to vote with the Democrats 160 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: as they are vote with the Republicans on important issues. 161 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: I mean, on the regular issues, they're always there, that's 162 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: but are the ones where there's you know, the nomination 163 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: of a judge or a Supreme Court justice. That's where 164 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: it gets tight, and that's where problems occur. And it's 165 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: unfair to the TSA workers, to air traffic controllers, to 166 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: member the military, to have their weekly, bi weekly, bi 167 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: monthly monthly paychecks interrupted. Six one, seven, two, five, four thirty. 168 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: It's the only line that's open right now. I'd love 169 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 3: to hear from you rapidly in this isis that there 170 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: is a consensus amongst my audience, whether you consider yourself 171 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: to be right or left, Democrat or Republican or somewhere 172 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 3: in the middle, that I will have almost complete complete 173 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 3: support for this idea. If you disagree, tell me why 174 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: you disagree, and we'll have a conversation. We're coming right 175 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: back on nightside. It is nine to seventeen. My intention 176 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: is to talk about this until ten o'clock. So I 177 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 3: advise you that if don't miss, and then I want 178 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 3: to talk about what's going on in the Middle East. 179 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: I've seen some signs in the last couple of days 180 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: which suggests to me that maybe it's not going as 181 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 3: smoothly as President Trump would have us believe. 182 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: We're back on Nightside right after this. 183 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio. 184 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: Okay, let's see what people have to say here. I 185 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 3: think this is a no brainer. And I think that 186 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 3: this country we're in a war, whether we like it 187 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: or not. Donald Trump is the president of the United States, 188 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: whether people like it or not. And I will be 189 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: criticizing him in the next hour, So don't accuse me 190 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: of doing anything other than trying to call balls and 191 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: strikes here. And Democrats seem to some Democrats seem to 192 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 3: intent on hoping that whatever failures he engages in will 193 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: annuit to their political benefit. That's a hell of a 194 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 3: way to run a country, isn't it. It used to 195 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: be the criticism of American foreign policy, American foreign policy, 196 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 3: domestic criticism stopped at the water's edge. Now, was said 197 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: many times. Thats not to say that the Democrats Republicans 198 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: can't criticize, but you almost get a sense that some 199 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: of them are rooting, rooting against literary success. Let me 200 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: go to Bob and Thean TASKT. Bob, welcome, you are 201 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: first first this week on Nightside. Thanks very much for 202 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 3: calling in. Go right ahead. What is your your thoughts 203 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 3: on the idea of saying to the members of Congress 204 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: you work for us, we don't work for you, and 205 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: no paychecks for you. If any member of the federal 206 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: government is. 207 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 2: Being denied their paycheck. 208 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: Well, Bob is the strong, silent type. So let's put 209 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: Bob on hold and see if we can get back 210 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 3: to him in a moment. Next up is Eric in Maine. Hi, Eric, welcome, 211 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: you are next on Nightside. Hope you there, Eric, I'm 212 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: right here, all right, go right ahead. 213 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: What do you mean? 214 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 5: And then yes, well, I just hope Europe is very 215 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 5: grateful for the fact that we exposed how exposed they 216 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 5: are to an attack from Iran at this point, and 217 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 5: for the third time in one hundred years, we've saved 218 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 5: their butt. 219 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm all in favor of I'm gonna come 220 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 6: at work. I work for the Navy, directly for the Navy, 221 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 6: working on submarines, and here fast attack submarines, and I 222 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 6: had to go six weeks without pay last fall, and 223 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 6: working on the submarines, I had to pay tolls, pay 224 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,599 Speaker 6: gas every day, pay my rent or well yeah, mortgage, 225 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 6: and just pay you know, groceries the daily expenses. Had 226 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 6: to keep paying them every day, but still had. 227 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 5: To show up at work every day. I was required 228 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 5: to be at work because submarines right now with China 229 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 5: and Russia being two to one ahead of us and 230 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 5: numbers are high priority for Pentagon. So I had to 231 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 5: be at work every day to work on the submarines. 232 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 2: Where do you work? I assume you is it the bath? 233 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 5: No, it's sports fortune. The Naval Shipyard is a public shipyard. 234 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 5: We refuel, refit La and Virginia class submarines and get 235 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 5: them back into the sea. They come in for their 236 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 5: yal change, for the reef, for everything they need. It 237 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 5: takes about two or three years to get it back, 238 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 5: turned around and back into the ocean. But we constantly 239 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 5: have submarines in there getting reworked and and back into 240 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 5: the game. 241 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: So it's gotta be It's gotta be more than an 242 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: oil change, right and check the headline. 243 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 5: Yes, I put that in in Wayman's terms. But yes, 244 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 5: so I went. I I was an airdale. I was, 245 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 5: I was an aircroom, and I flew all over the 246 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 5: world with the Navy. But now I'm using my engineering 247 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 5: degree from you Mask. You Mask gave me my engineering degree, 248 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 5: and I am I've got a calculator in my hand. 249 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 5: Every day. The calculus all comes back. It all comes back. 250 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 5: It just takes it takes a little bit. It was 251 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 5: a little hard at first to keep up with the 252 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 5: junior you know, the junior guys. There are physics majors 253 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 5: and stuff. But uh, I brought it all back and 254 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 5: uh I got back into it, and I'm dealing with uh. 255 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: How long how. 256 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: Long is your federal service time in terms of within 257 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: the military now working for the private calls? 258 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 5: Well, I was twenty four years navy and now I 259 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 5: just started. As my wife said, you have Irish luck, 260 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 5: which is no luck. You started at a job that 261 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 5: has no pay. So I started the last week of September, 262 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 5: right before the government shutdown at the shipyard as an engineer, 263 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 5: and right away walked into six weeks of no pay. 264 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 5: So I had I had. 265 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: How long How long was it? How long were you 266 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: without a paycheck. I'm just refreshed my respection. 267 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: How long? 268 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 5: Six weeks, six weeks, six weeks, six weeks, paying tolls, 269 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 5: paying gaffs. 270 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 4: All that a. 271 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: Chance to talk to one of your members of Congress, 272 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: one of your senators, or one of your congress people, 273 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: or if they were listening tonight, what would you tell them? 274 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 5: Get overseas, get in the game. You know, if you 275 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 5: haven't been in the service, you should have been. But 276 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 5: you need you need to You need to understand what 277 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 5: it's like to be in the service, to talk to 278 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 5: people in the service, because we know what it's like. 279 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 5: We know what it's like to have to spend spend 280 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 5: all the money in a pot of in a in 281 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 5: a plot, like you have a pot of money, you 282 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 5: got to spend it all. You don't get it the 283 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 5: next year, which is the most ridiculous thing in the world. 284 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 5: And I think that needs to change more than anything. 285 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: You know. I I don't think you'll ever be out 286 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 3: of work. I think that they will always be the 287 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: need to recondition and and get you. 288 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, we we are. We are the highest priority 289 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 5: in the Pentagon right now because Russia and China. Russia 290 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 5: has been out building US for the last ten years 291 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 5: two to one as far as submarines, uh, and China 292 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 5: is right up there too. China. China build to two 293 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 5: hundred ships in one year, which we only have three. 294 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 5: We only have three hundred ships our whole navy. They 295 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 5: built two hundred and one year. So the numbers. 296 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 3: Are christened this past weekend, the Massachusetts Attack Submarine, the 297 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 3: USS MESS Virginia class. 298 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 5: Yes we have some. We have some of the Virginia 299 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 5: class at the Portsman's Nable Shipyard And I saw that, 300 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 5: and and that's great. But yeah, China has been out 301 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 5: building us big time. But yeah, we need to start 302 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 5: the biggest thing in the military. We need to stop 303 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 5: this whole thing where we and I wish Trump would 304 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 5: do it, where we say you have a pot of money, 305 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 5: if you don't spend it, there's no reward for saving money. 306 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 5: There's a reward for spending all the money in a 307 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 5: pot of money, because it would be like, great if 308 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 5: supervisor's got an incentive to save money. Oh, we don't 309 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 5: do that, Eric. 310 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 2: Eric, thank you for your call. 311 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 3: I hope I'm going to challenge every member everyone who's 312 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: running for Congress this year, Federal Congress. 313 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: You know for US House or representatives US. 314 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: Senate to take the pledge that if they are elected, 315 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: they will vote on this idea that under no circumstances 316 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 3: that they will pass, that they will vote in favor 317 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 3: of a legislative legislation which would stop the paychecks for 318 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: members of the House and the Senate if any member 319 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 3: of the federal government is impacted by a government shutdown 320 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 3: and their financial benefits are in any way, shape or 321 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 3: form disrupted. I'm sure we come up with language, but 322 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 3: basically that should be the new plank for every member 323 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 3: of Congress, whether you're a Republican challenging an incumbent Democrat 324 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: or you're a Democrat challenging an independent Republican, put their 325 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: feet to the fire, all of them. 326 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 5: Okay, I will say one thing. I worked on the 327 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 5: nuclear submarines for six weeks unpaid, shown up every day 328 00:18:58,640 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 5: and didn't miss the day. 329 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: Well, you know again, it's it's a tribute to the 330 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 3: service that you've given to the country. And right now 331 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 3: the House and the Senate are on a two week 332 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: Eastern recess. 333 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 5: Well, they should be able to do the same thing 334 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 5: I did. They should be able to do the same 335 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 5: thing I did. Because you know what, the submarines have 336 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 5: to go back in the water. Those crews sitting there 337 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 5: waiting to go back to the front lines. We got 338 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 5: to get those submarines back in the water in portments. 339 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 5: And it's the last it's the last active duty naval 340 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 5: base in all of New England. New England is the 341 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 5: birthplace of the of the Navy, and yet that's the 342 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 5: last active duty base in the entire. 343 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 3: A lot of politics involved in that as well. Eric, 344 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 3: I got a scoot. We'll talk soon. As always. Appreciate 345 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: you calling and you made a lot of great points tonight. 346 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 5: Thank you, sir, Thank you. 347 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: Have a good one six one, seven, two, five four, 348 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. 349 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 3: When we get back, I got Rachel and Quincy. I 350 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: have Paul in Nantaska in Nantasket. Somehow he came up 351 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 3: as Bob before and that's why I didn't answer. So 352 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 3: we apologize for that, Paul, but you'll be next up. 353 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: We have a couple of lines at six one, seven, two, five, 354 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: four to ten thirty and one at six month, seven 355 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: nine three one ten thirty. I want to know what 356 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: you think about my idea every congressional challenger. I don't 357 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 3: care if they are a progressive Democrat, if they're a 358 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 3: conservative Republican, they should take a pledge that, if elected, 359 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 3: they will vote for a piece of legislation which will 360 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 3: stop Congress from being paid during any and all federal shutdowns. 361 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 3: Because it's the federal shutdowns which cause the paychecks to 362 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 3: be delayed of TSA or of defense workers like Eric 363 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: was last fall. That should be that should be the 364 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 3: major issue in this campaign, in my opinion, or a 365 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 3: major issue, A major issue six one, seven, two, five, 366 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 3: four to ten, thirty six, one seven, ninth three, one 367 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: thirty Back on night Side. 368 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 369 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: All right, Next up, we have Paul from the Tasket. Paul, 370 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: that was our mistake. And Rob was very kind to 371 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 3: acknowledge and say to me that he had he had 372 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 3: somehow put in Bob from Thenantasket, So I apologize as well. 373 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 7: Welcome to night Side, all right, Dan, I got a 374 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 7: quick thing. First of all, That singer was Johnny Paycheck. 375 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: Yes was John, Thank you very much. I was. I'm 376 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: not great on music, okay. 377 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: Oh there's a lot of people who are, and that 378 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 3: is not one of my Fortes, So thanks very much. 379 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 3: Take that job, and you know what you're supposed to 380 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 3: do with it. 381 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 7: You got it all right. So uh, not only the 382 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 7: corner's bene Senator's got to lose their page. I mean, 383 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 7: everybody works for him all the way down. 384 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I said that their staff people. Absolutely. 385 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 7: Let everybody. 386 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let them. 387 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 3: Take a little bit of heat at home, let them 388 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: take a little beef from their kids whatever. 389 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 7: Sure, absolutely, And you got to give that guy credit 390 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 7: to work for the seventh. They missed the sixth seven weeks. 391 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 7: Lucky as wife was working. That probably kept the family afloat. 392 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 7: So people don't realize this. A younger person who's just 393 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 7: starting out, who's paying rent, who can't afford to miss 394 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 7: all this work, would be in serious trouble, you know. 395 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 7: So I have my own business, and if I miss 396 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 7: a paycheck by a day, the people are going crazy, 397 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. 398 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I will also bet that you're the last person 399 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 3: who gets paid every month. 400 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 7: I am the last person who gets paid, and I 401 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 7: don't get paid every month, but I mean, you know, 402 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 7: every week. But sometimes you got to make sure that 403 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 7: people get paid. So it makes a big difference. That's 404 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 7: why you keep good workers. So there's not really much 405 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 7: you can say, but I would definitely cut everyone's pay 406 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 7: all the way down to the you know, right to 407 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 7: the last person who works for them. I don't care 408 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 7: what it is, Paige whatever. 409 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just I just think that's a no brainer. 410 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 3: And here's the thing. Every one of these people who 411 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: are running for Congress, whether they're you know, a challenger 412 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 3: and they're a Democrat or a Republican, they're always looking 413 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 3: for issues in which they can put the incumbent on 414 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 3: the spot. The coumbany has a lot of advantages. One 415 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 3: of the advantages that they have the name congressmen or 416 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 3: Senator in front of their name, and they have a staff, 417 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: and they can raise money more easily. However, put them 418 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 3: on the defensive. Say, look, I pledge to you that 419 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 3: as a member of Congress, I will file legislation and 420 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 3: I will join with other like minded members so that 421 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 3: we will not be paid if any federal government employee 422 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: is adversely impacted by a government shutdown of any type, 423 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 3: and we will we will file legislation which will which 424 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 3: if passed, and if if the members of Congress want. 425 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 2: To vote against it, let them vote against it. Let 426 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 2: them go on the right. 427 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 7: I'd be shocked if anyone ever speaks against what you're 428 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 7: saying today. 429 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I would be shocked too. But the other 430 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: thing is, I'm not sure. 431 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: War that the American people, who for years and years 432 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 3: and years have not been taught civics in school, and 433 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 3: they've been they have been kept in the dark about 434 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 3: this stuff. I remember when I was at Latin school 435 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 3: many many years ago, in the last century, we learned 436 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,719 Speaker 3: about civics, and we learned about how the legislative process works. 437 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: I think that most the average person, particularly those who 438 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 3: don't vote, they they just are kind of getting along. 439 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 3: And obviously, someone like you, who's a business owner, you 440 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 3: have a pretty good idea about how this system works. 441 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: And it would make me vote for a congressman or 442 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 3: a potential congressman who would pledge to do this, or 443 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: a challenger who would pledge to do that, to do 444 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: this if they were elected. You got to come up 445 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 3: with a difference. When you're running against an incumbent, you 446 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: got to somehow paint that incumbent as out of touch, 447 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 3: old school or whatever it is. And this is the 448 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 3: perfect issue for any challenger. I don't care if they're 449 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 3: a Democrat or a Republican. 450 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 7: That's why I say, if a person who runs for office, 451 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 7: have you ever made payroll? Have you had a had 452 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 7: to make payroll? That makes a big difference because so 453 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 7: many these people they are in government that payroll doesn't count. 454 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 7: It gets budgeted and they don't worry about payroll. But 455 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 7: guys will work, they'll small businesses were going to make payroll. 456 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 7: And these people need term limits. Term limits are going. 457 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 5: To make a big difference. 458 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: Well they would make a big difference. 459 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 3: But you know what what every member of Congress who 460 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 3: have ever talked to about term limits, they said, well, 461 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: we have term limits if you're a member of the 462 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 3: House every two years because we stand for reelection and 463 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: the same way here in Massachusetts. People go to the 464 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 3: polls and there their instinct is, well, I'm going to 465 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: vote for a representative because I saw him at the 466 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 3: diner and he said hello to me and said to 467 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 3: say hi to the little woman at home, and he's 468 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 3: a good guy. People are people are knuckleheads. They they 469 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 3: they everything stays the same and they want to Wi's 470 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 3: because it's the same people there. They talk about this, 471 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 3: No King's rally over the weekend. Trump has been president 472 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 3: on what five years? Schumer's been there for what fifty years? 473 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: In Congress? 474 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 7: Polosi, it's like. 475 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 3: They basically the Democrats are very effective at putting issues 476 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 3: out to help them get elected and to stay elected. 477 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 3: They do a good job at that. Okay, they make 478 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: it sound like that the people on the other side 479 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: are just bad human beings and the and the This 480 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 3: is an issue. I don't care who takes advantage of 481 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 3: the issue. If you get some longtime Republican congressman in there, 482 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 3: make him a hurr, go on the record and say, look, 483 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 3: when this comes up, I'll file the legislation. I'll be 484 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 3: a sponsor. You know, let's let's make this happen. Okay, 485 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 3: really you all right, Paul, thanks very much. What type 486 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 3: of business do you have if you want to give 487 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 3: it a plug, I'd love. 488 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: To have you. 489 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 7: We're in a general construction business. We do, you know, 490 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 7: from side work to build their houses and the small 491 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 7: commercial buildings. 492 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 3: Okay, well again, I don't know there's gonna be many 493 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 3: people in my audience, but I always want to, you know, 494 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 3: give you an opportunity to plug your group if you'd 495 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 3: like to you can if you don't want to, that's 496 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 3: okay too. 497 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 7: That's right, I got too much work? 498 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 2: Good enough. Well, that's good. 499 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 3: I'm happy for you to Thanks, Thanks, Paul, I have 500 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 3: a great night. All right, let's keep rolling here. Let 501 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 3: me go to Rachel and Quincy. Rachel and get get 502 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 3: you in here before the commercial break next on Nightside. 503 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 4: Hey, Dan, I hope all is well in happy Easter. 504 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 4: I absolutely agree with your pledge. However, I'd like to 505 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 4: just go a little further because I just think, first 506 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 4: of all, to me, it doesn't matter what seat anybody 507 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 4: sits in these ts especially I'm going with the TSA 508 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 4: employees right. To me, it's like why can't they be 509 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 4: exempt from and why and who is not wanting to 510 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 4: pay them? These people have worked for years or whatever. 511 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 4: They have no choice but to leave. They have families 512 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 4: to feed. And this is where I get confused. I'm 513 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 4: very very confused as to why they are being targeted 514 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 4: not to pay them when they should be paid. Simple, 515 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 4: It's just very simple. 516 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: Well, here's the deal. 517 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't want to really take sides here, but 518 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 3: if anybody wants to disagree with me, fine with the 519 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 3: ice and Department of Homeland Security. The Democrats looked at 520 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 3: that as an issue that they can take advantage of. 521 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: And the behavior of the ICE personnel and in Minnesota 522 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 3: was way over the top. Obviously, two people were shot 523 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 3: and killed. Never should have happened. Those people should have 524 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: been arrested, they should have been dragged out of the car, 525 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: put in cups and taken away. 526 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: They should not have been shot and killed, and they were. 527 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: And so that. 528 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: Fired up the crowds out in Minnesota, which is understandable. 529 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 3: And so what the Democrats said, we want to stop 530 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 3: the funding of ICE in Homeland Security. Well, ICE in 531 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 3: Homeland Security, they said, you know, we're going to shut 532 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 3: down the entire Department of Homeland Security, which includes the TSAH, 533 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 3: the the actual on the line ICE officers and Homeland 534 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: Security personnel. Their their their jobs were funded. So they did. 535 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 3: They never lost a paycheck. However, the TSA lost their 536 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 3: paychecks for six weeks more seven right. 537 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 4: So, Dan, this is where I am really confused. Yep, okay, 538 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 4: So so you table what they don't agree with and 539 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 4: pay these people from the beginning. So why torture people 540 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 4: that are. 541 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 3: In Golden hard Because the Democrats thought that the Democrats 542 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 3: thought that by making travelers airline travelers inconvenienced, which of 543 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 3: course would also inconvenience the TSA people who weren't getting 544 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 3: their paychecks, that that would force the American flying public 545 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,239 Speaker 3: to call up and say, all of the reforms that 546 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 3: you've been pushing for regarding ice body cameras and get 547 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 3: rid of the masks. That will force the administration to 548 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 3: basically give up on those reforms that the Democrats want 549 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: and capitulate. 550 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: And so the. 551 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 4: Republicans and that worked out, and that worked out well, right, 552 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 4: not really? 553 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, so they still they did, they did agree 554 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 3: to body cameras. Christy nome was was was lost her 555 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 3: job as the secretary in the cabin in the cabinet. 556 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 3: But it became as it's always a game. It's as simple. 557 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 3: It's a game. And the politicians don't how to play 558 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 3: the game. And they don't care. 559 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 4: No, and they don't care. And you know what, you 560 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 4: know what hurt them, you know, take it where it 561 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 4: hurts them. Oh, may I take some of your money 562 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 4: to pay somebody that I know and I don't. 563 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 8: I'm just saying I know what you're saying. 564 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying if you want, if you want 565 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 3: to inflict some discomfort, if you want to inflict and 566 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,719 Speaker 3: this goes for the Republicans as well as the Democrats, 567 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 3: if you want to inflict pain and suffering, economic pain 568 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,959 Speaker 3: and suffering on any federal worker, whether they are a 569 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 3: Homeland security person, whether or not they're a border officer, 570 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 3: whether they're a member of Immigration and Naturalization, whether they're 571 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 3: a TSA worker, who wherever they are when they're not 572 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 3: being paid, So too, Congress, the money for Congress will stop. 573 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 3: Make that a national campaign issue. And see how many 574 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 3: of these congressmen turn around and lose their office or 575 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 3: if they don't go along with this. Rachel, I got 576 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 3: you before the break, but I got a screwed here, 577 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: and I got a couple more callers they got to 578 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 3: get to before the ten o'clock hour of the ten 579 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 3: o'clock news. Thank you so much for joining us. As always, 580 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 3: you've helped me a lot. 581 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 4: Thank you a great Thank you, Dan, and happy to you, 582 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 4: Rob and your whole staff. 583 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 3: Right back to you and yours. Thanks Rachel, talk to 584 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 3: you soon, all right, be right back on night side. 585 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: We'll if you want to continue to talk about this 586 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 3: in the next hour. You got to light them up. 587 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 3: If not, we are going to change topics. But I 588 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: think this is an important topic and we will get 589 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 3: to the other topic, which deals with some military setbacks. Frankly, 590 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 3: that our young men and women and our military has 591 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 3: had the resilient and sy of the Iranian military forces 592 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 3: is something that is of some concern to me, and 593 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 3: I think we need to talk about it. 594 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: Coming back on Nightside. 595 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 596 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 3: All right, let's get back to the call. I was 597 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 3: going to go to Joe and Lin. 598 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: Joe, you were next on Nightsig Right ahead. 599 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 9: H Dan, this is a terrible thing that happened. I 600 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 9: know you won't agree with me on everything, but I 601 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 9: am thinking about not voting anymore. We should take the 602 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 9: congressman's pay and somehow forfeit their pay, put them in 603 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 9: the same position, because it just keeps happening over and over. 604 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 9: You know, one minute, we're going to do this. Now 605 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 9: we have. 606 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 3: You're not going to vote, which is really dumb, but 607 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 3: that's okay. And what is suggesting you do in the 608 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 3: in and you're going to take their pay? How are 609 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 3: you going to take their pay? 610 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 2: Well? 611 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 9: Do you know how you close down the government. We 612 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 9: should and people don't get paid. They should make it 613 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 9: so that with this happens, they don't get paid. That's 614 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 9: what I'm trying to go That's what I'm saying, is that. 615 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 3: The only people that can do that. You and I 616 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 3: don't have the ability to do that directly. Joe and 617 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 3: Dan khn walk down to Washington and do that. However, However, 618 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 3: if we elect enough members of Congress who are willing 619 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 3: to do that, they can impose that on themselves. I mean, 620 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 3: Congress just votes themselves a two week recess. You can't 621 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 3: vote yourself a recess. I can vote myself a recess. 622 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 3: So you have to change the people who are in 623 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,439 Speaker 3: Congress in order to have any sort of chance. 624 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 9: It's very hard to do, Dan with the DEA. 625 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 2: I know it is, but that's the only option you have. 626 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 3: It's like if I said to you, I want to 627 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 3: get a ticket to the Red Sox game, and I 628 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 3: want to sit in the front row of the Green 629 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 3: Monster seats. There's only so many seats there, and you 630 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 3: gotta be if you're gonna buy one, you're gonna buy 631 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 3: one that's available. Same way, unless you have members of 632 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 3: Congress or people who will who will run for office 633 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 3: and say I'm gonna run against this guy who's ada, 634 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 3: I'm a crowd, a Republican incumbent. I don't care how 635 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 3: long he's been there. I don't care how powerful he is. 636 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 3: As far as I'm concerned. They need to vote that 637 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 3: their paychecks will, the paychecks of this staff will be 638 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 3: stopped when a government shutdown begins, a complete government shutdown 639 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 3: or a partial government. 640 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 9: Shut When this happens, you see how fast things will change. 641 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 9: Voting themselves a pay raise. Eye. 642 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 2: So that's why you've got to keep voting. 643 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 3: I don't know who your congressman is up in Lynn, 644 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 3: but if if you call that congress person's office and 645 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 3: you say to them, okay, how are you going to 646 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 3: vote on this, they don't give you a straight answer, 647 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 3: then you vote against them. You vote someone else in 648 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 3: the primary, and you vote against them in the final election. 649 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 9: It's a great creating. Yet it is a good senator. 650 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 9: I think Moulton's my congress he I don't like a 651 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 9: lot of things he does, but yeah, it's very depressing. 652 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 3: I just want tokay, all right, Joe, I got to 653 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 3: get one more in here. 654 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,439 Speaker 2: Before the break. 655 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 9: Thank you. 656 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 2: I appreciate your call. I hope you do it. Ben 657 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 2: and Newton, Ben, you're next time nights. IM going to 658 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 2: wrap the hour for us, Go right ahead. 659 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 8: Ben, Sure. Yeah, it's a very interesting topic. Over the 660 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 8: weekend I heard an alternative idea that seemed to have 661 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 8: a lot what is it? Tell us what it is, 662 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 8: which is, yes, just simply privatize the TSA. Why do 663 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 8: we have it run by the government. What is easily 664 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 8: turned into a political football. Have it run by. 665 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 3: Well, it still has to be funded, whether it's part 666 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 3: of the government, And I'm not sure that the TSA 667 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 3: hasn't at some point been privatized, and there have been 668 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 3: conversations about it. But either way that the funding mechanism 669 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 3: is going to be the United States government when you 670 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 3: think about it, because they're providing a service to the 671 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 3: United States Government, helping them sepore the planes. 672 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 8: Sure, but have it run by airlines themselves. They are 673 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 8: the ones that stand the most to lose when something 674 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 8: goes on. 675 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: Well, okay, now. 676 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 3: If you want to say that each airline will take 677 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 3: it on as a responsibility, fine, that's fine, but you're 678 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 3: going to probably have to get approval by Congress to 679 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 3: have that happen. I mean, they got you coming and 680 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 3: going here, Ben, is what I'm trying to say. 681 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 8: Sure, but at least in the future it wouldn't be 682 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 8: so prone to be That's good. 683 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 2: That's another good suggestion. 684 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 3: Again, what happens is, I think it's better to focus 685 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 3: on one one idea and whichever is the easiest to accomplish. 686 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 3: And I think the easiest to accomplish is to is 687 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 3: to make Congress put their feet to the fire and 688 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 3: make them make them vote. But anyway, that's thank you 689 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 3: for calling. It was an interesting perspective. Thank you. Sure, 690 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 3: here comes that you two sir. Here comes the ten 691 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 3: o'clock news. And right after that we were going to 692 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 3: talk about what's going on in Iran, and there's and 693 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 3: some I think disquieting developments will be back after the 694 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 3: tent